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Every signature Les Paul tone is middle position. Clapton's woman tone, Green's out of phase howl and Page's riff quack. The real Les Paul deal is a skillful blend of pickups. I think Jimmy as many other Les Paul players was setting his amp on the neck pickup. Cutting some mud and adding treble/presence, so even the neck pickup has bite on clean (volume rolled off down to 3-4) and medium gain (volume at 6-8). Then he was rolling off bridge's tone knob down to 4-6, to tame this bite. Then when he engaged middle position, he had this signature tone with this quack, when bridge was dominant volume at 8-10 and neck at 6-8. If you watch "Over the Hills" live, that's what he's doing. Neck at 3-4 volume for clean. Then upping necks volume to 6-8 at the tails of the clean song parts. Engaging middle position (with bridge at 8-10, neck at 6-8) for riffs. Then solo bridge + boost for solo with occasional woman tone on the neck pickup. Achieving a controlled bass without mud and loose rumble is obvious for every guitar tone. But I think Jimmy was living by "add as much highs as you can get away with" and "add as little mid as you can get away with" ;) This doesn't mean that he was scooping mids down to zero, getting the right amount is tricky.
@@abrildel85 I'm actually pulling my hair to get those old, classic blues rock tones right and I'm still not happy about them. I think using only a dimed (volume 10, tone 10) bridge pickup is a more modern thing, when most of the tone shaping is on effects or when people use digital modelers with IR's and many EQ options. Then it's bridge4life ;) Those old guys had only a Les Paul plugged into an amp, so they needed to use all of guitar's controls. The middle position, pickup blend was what gave them their signature tone, because it was the position that allowed the most flexibility (adding warmth from neck, adding bite from bridge or matching different pickups so they produce quack/out of phase etc). As for Jimmy, it's not like he always used middle position for riffs. "Black Dog" riff is played on bridge pickup. For "Ramble On", he's using neck (at 3-4?) for clean and bridge (at 8-10) for riff crunch, because he wants a quick jump between clean and crunch, with a selector switch, without fiddling with knobs like in "Over the Hills". From what I've seen, when he plays "Whole Lotta" live, he's using both middle position for main riff and only bridge for that upstroke tail of the riff. Setting the highest gain level makes more sense on bridge first for me and then checking how the neck cleans up with a volume knob. Anyway, Jimmy was squeezing every bit out of every pickup on Les Paul and to do so, he needed to set his amp EQ section on a neck pickup first, because it's the one that needs taming for lows and brightening for bite.
i am fairly certain jimmy left all his knobs on 10 and would just work them down and back up on the fly for whatever sound he had in mind while he was playing. you have to keep in mind that his guitar had 50s gibson wiring so the tone knobs don't work the same way they do with a lot of other guitars, the tone knobs on his guitar would pull mids out first, and THEN pull treble out of the sound once the knob was rolled further down, and if you listen to his bridge pickup in his #1 live, it is super bright - both with the paf and the t-top that replaced it are bright as hell. if he had his tone rolled off a majority of the time, he would have had a much less ballsy sound.
@@andrewgarcia3136 I agree that he had more treble and less mids in his tone than people think ;) As much treble and as little mids as he could get away with.
He often set the echoplex for a short slap effect (see Whole Lotta Love TSRTS Boogie Mama part) His 2nd Echoplex was set up with the Orange Amp for the Theramin.
@@bryanwilliams3665 no it was on all the time. You can’t switch the EP-3 preamp out of the circuit. Either you have the preamp, or the preamp plus delay.
Albeit J Pages Pickups 1973 -1980 in his 59 LP were an UNBALANCED set having the Weak Gibson T Top 7.5k in the bridge and the Overwound circa 8.5K PAF (set below pickup ring!) No manufacturer unfortunately markets a Set to go into the "Wrong" Pickup Cavities.. Its annoying and misleading that Gibson 'Jimmy Page ' models are so wrong regarding the tone for Led Zeppelin.
@@dmhreptiles254 Just follow along with how he sets his amp in the video. At 4:57 you can see. Volume at 10 (will be LOUD without attenuation), treble and middle around 9/10, bass at 1 and presence at 6. Should get you very close to Page's sound on a Plexi style Amp. On my SV20 it sounds spot on
Im currently thinking about buying an SV20 but now that the new ST20 has released I’m kind of second guessing since Page didn’t use that much gain (almost no more than shown in this video). Has the SV20 enough headroom (together with guitar volume controls) to achieve that?
This is "Spot On" for PRE 1973 Tone NICE! (Led Zep 2,3,4) Not Right though for 1973 Madison Square Garden Tone. I demo this on my Channel for those tone chasers . For that 1973-1980 tone You Need 'Weak" 7.5k T Top in Bridge : 8.5K (Hotter)Alnico 2 PAF in Neck ( set really low to balance) Now you get the "Hollow Chirp" Middle Pickup Sound for Whole Lotta Love (live)Riff, Rock and Roll (live) Riff etc. It might be of note that any guitars sporting 'Coil taps, phase splitting, etc are NOT period correct for Led Zeppelin.. Those Jimmy Page Mods were done 'POST' Zeppelin. Nice Demo .Well Done
Nailed it…I worked this approach and settings with my 84 JCM 800. I was skeptical of the ocho treble but the ocho mids cooled it down. Adding the echoplex pre amp and light slapback it’s dead on. Great video!!!
british amp sparkle and chime?? - sparkle and chime is probably the last thing i think about when it comes to british voiced amps. Like a vox top boost??- but even then it is upper mids. Sparkle and chime and british amps...hmmm
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Absolutely fantastic!!!! That is THE sound! I'm running a similar set up as you. Your amp tone stack settings are spot on! I have a Stewmac Brit Plex, which is a mixture of JTM45 and Super Lead architecture, but definitely leans more to JTM45. Keep in mind those Marshall JTM45 re-issues weren't really faithful to the original architecture either. I think they ran EL-34 tubes, as does my Stewmac amp. All that being said, I still find it too bassy, with the volume near full up. The sweet spot seems to be at '6', where the bright cap still has some influence. The challenge at that volume is to still get the required 'crunch', so I push the amp with a few pedals....Chase Tone Secret Preamp, Colorsound Overdriver (set for treble boost with med gain), and for really searing leads, I add a Ceriatone Centura before the Overdriver, set for a slight treble boost, and again, not too much gain. If you're keeping count, that's THREE gain stages before the amp, so it requires careful balancing to not turn into a sonic mess!! I turn off the Centura for the cleaner/edge of breakup Page tones, and add it for the crunchier stuff. I'm using Bryan Williams Jimmy Page '73 pickups in my R9. I have tried a LOT of pickups, and these really nail the sound, and do so much more. You wanna know the pickups that I liked the least in my guitar.....a REAL early 60's Pat No./PAF spec neck pickup and a mid 60's T-Top. Go figure!!
One other point of clarification....the Marshall TMB tone stack is a passive circuit. It cannot add gain. What you're hearing as you turn up those controls is that they are taking away less of the original signal content.
Love it! Great sounding guitar and amp. I have read that Page also had a T-Top in the bridge and PAF in the neck on his LP. That was also part of the special “quack” in middle position sound.
Yes , Youre correct, and the T Top is full of "Hollow Quack" or Chirp.. The Chirp is predominantly of getting IDENTICAL output from both pickups and then you get that Phase Cancellation you're hearing.. He had to set his Hot Wound Neck Pickup BELOW the pickup ring to balance that weak 7.5 Bridge T Top.. I have this sound on my channel if you are interested (Madison Sq garden tone)
@@bryanwilliams3665 I tried a T-Top replica in the bridge position and it did have a sort of unique magic, but the middle position with a PAF replica neck sounded cool but a little too dark. I find a get a good Pagey middle position tone by using identical bridge pickups in the bridge and neck positions for the frequency cancellation as you described.
@@adrianjones1735 Yes.. 2 x T Tops will get that Phase Cancellation... Page has that combo in his Doubleneck.. That Hollow Chirp middle position sound is clearly heard on the Live Stairway to Heaven solo.. On his #1 Les Paul his Higher Wind Neck Pickup is NOT higher Output.. That PAF had a magnet so weak, it barely had enough power to drive the coils.. It was a very odd PAF.. Electrically hot but Magnetically very weak to sound woody (like a Bowed Cello for lack of a better analogy) With a weak magnet, it controls somewhat that "Dark Mud" you describe . I was fortunate to get this knowledge via Jimmy's Tech/ Roadie 1969-1972, Clive Coulson.. Clive was a New Zealander and a customer of my guitar shop in New Zealand
@@bryanwilliams3665 that makes a lot of sense because yes you can definitely hear that characteristic middle position tone on Stairway. Interesting info about his neck pickup! What a weird guitar and it turns out it yielded some amaaazing tones on those recordings. Helps that Jimmy Page was playing the guitar too haha.
@@adrianjones1735 Oh yes .. The late 50s Les Pauls were well made, but funnily there wasn't much quality control in the pick-ups.. Even the inventor Seth Lover didn't know the specs! "We just wound em til they were full!" (he said)...Sometimes the hotter pickup ended up in the neck!. A2,A3 ,A4, A5 mags were all used..A2 and A5 sounded much much closer tonally than they do today.. The magnets today are quite different...It's really hard to find vintage sounding magnets .. Women usually wound pickups in the Gibson Factory..They weren't "Gurus" ..It was a regular factory job..Good sounding PAF replicas are made in all countries...It's not Rocket science.Good magnets are key..
Stellar! I love your playing & I’m a 55 year player! You know how to get the tones out of that R9. Was that pick taco of your friend close to the plexi in tone? I have a bad back and the mini combo in a 1x 10 my bad back will love and I only play small venues.
Increíble tono y que fácil se ve que lo logras ,tengo un Marshall JMP plexi 1959 hw de 100 ,crees y al menos creo me podría acercar bastante a ese sonido también .
@@abrildel85 you’re welcome. Thanks for your answer. That’s what i thought (i use to think KT66 was the ones for that amp, but i prefer the 6L6, it’s sound more like a black flag then).
Es para que tenga más brillo el sonido , se puede apreciar cuando lo pongo a 0 y después al 8 , sube frecuencias medias agudas y hace que resalte más sobre la banda
When I bought the amplifier it was already modified and the man who later improved it passed away unfortunately, so I don't know what he did to him ... 😢
¡Buen trabajo! se acerca mucho a Page, teniendo en cuenta que usaba conos G12H de 55hz en vez de Greenbacks y por aquella época una pastilla T-Top algo más aguda en el puente. Yo tengo una Solodallas en el puente de una R8 y se nota ese punch de agudos y medios frente a unas Paf, que suelen ser más redondas y comprimidas.
Muchas gracias 🙏🏻 si , intento sacar el sonido con lo que tengo , incluso el ampli es totalmente diferente el usaba un súper bass . Tu R8 sonará de maravilla 😻
El sonido viene de las manos y tú lo haces sonar de escándalo, siempre con ese toque a lo Clapton. ¿Has probado las pastillas Throbak? yo tengo un par de juegos y creo que es de las mejores que he probado. Por cierto, el Máster Volumen lo tienes siempre al máximo?
@@juanjocanadas3945 no las he probado , he oído hablar muy bien de ellas :-) El máster lo tengo un poco más de la mitad , si estuviese abierto al máximo tendría un poco más de gain 😎
The 'Plexi' Marshall JP used was much LESS Influential in dialing in Jimmys sound than the 'unconventional' pickup arrangement (7.5k Bridge T Top, / 8.6k Overwound Neck Set below pickup ring).. Marshall Plexi Users who sound Nothing Like J Page include : Angus Young, D Allman, Slash, Malmsteen, Ace Frehley and countless others. Yes, you do need a Marshall, but a Regular Factory Les Paul ( Even a $20,000 Gibson JP Model) is all wrong. Great Demo here of the "Pre June 72" Jimmy LP Sound" and nice accurate sound on 'The Ocean' Well Done!
@@abrildel85 sí,es bue Wah,claro está. Pero uno un poco más económico,me gusta el sonido Vox,más que el Dunlop. El que dices es para sonido Page,no?.Si es que se puede lograr,pero bueno... El sonido está en uno. Recomendaciones please. Gracias.
@@abrildel85 claro, ya hasta estoy con el ampli probando el todo Y uso cuerdas 09-46 son ibridas y suena mucho a page el tono que sacaste es muy brutal amigo Gracias
Puede ser , más bien diría que es un vídeo didáctico en el a que mucha gente le puede servir o no para acercarse al sonido de Jimmy Page . Tómalo como quieras .
Al principio del vídeo digo que quiero sacar el sonido de page en la etapa de 1972/1973 jimmy page solo uso el tone bender en el primer disco con la telecaster el resto de su carrera no uso fuzz en directo , te disculpo
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This is really good. I wish you could do one for 1973.
@@abledonald943 i can try
@@abrildel85 Hope you succeed.
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7:37 finally that Since I've been loving tone exactly like the recording, now I can die in peace
Thanks so much 🙏🏻❤️
Every signature Les Paul tone is middle position. Clapton's woman tone, Green's out of phase howl and Page's riff quack. The real Les Paul deal is a skillful blend of pickups. I think Jimmy as many other Les Paul players was setting his amp on the neck pickup. Cutting some mud and adding treble/presence, so even the neck pickup has bite on clean (volume rolled off down to 3-4) and medium gain (volume at 6-8). Then he was rolling off bridge's tone knob down to 4-6, to tame this bite. Then when he engaged middle position, he had this signature tone with this quack, when bridge was dominant volume at 8-10 and neck at 6-8. If you watch "Over the Hills" live, that's what he's doing. Neck at 3-4 volume for clean. Then upping necks volume to 6-8 at the tails of the clean song parts. Engaging middle position (with bridge at 8-10, neck at 6-8) for riffs. Then solo bridge + boost for solo with occasional woman tone on the neck pickup. Achieving a controlled bass without mud and loose rumble is obvious for every guitar tone. But I think Jimmy was living by "add as much highs as you can get away with" and "add as little mid as you can get away with" ;) This doesn't mean that he was scooping mids down to zero, getting the right amount is tricky.
Wow amazing , thanks for the comment bro , so interesting 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@abrildel85 I'm actually pulling my hair to get those old, classic blues rock tones right and I'm still not happy about them. I think using only a dimed (volume 10, tone 10) bridge pickup is a more modern thing, when most of the tone shaping is on effects or when people use digital modelers with IR's and many EQ options. Then it's bridge4life ;) Those old guys had only a Les Paul plugged into an amp, so they needed to use all of guitar's controls. The middle position, pickup blend was what gave them their signature tone, because it was the position that allowed the most flexibility (adding warmth from neck, adding bite from bridge or matching different pickups so they produce quack/out of phase etc). As for Jimmy, it's not like he always used middle position for riffs. "Black Dog" riff is played on bridge pickup.
For "Ramble On", he's using neck (at 3-4?) for clean and bridge (at 8-10) for riff crunch, because he wants a quick jump between clean and crunch, with a selector switch, without fiddling with knobs like in "Over the Hills".
From what I've seen, when he plays "Whole Lotta" live, he's using both middle position for main riff and only bridge for that upstroke tail of the riff.
Setting the highest gain level makes more sense on bridge first for me and then checking how the neck cleans up with a volume knob.
Anyway, Jimmy was squeezing every bit out of every pickup on Les Paul and to do so, he needed to set his amp EQ section on a neck pickup first, because it's the one that needs taming for lows and brightening for bite.
i am fairly certain jimmy left all his knobs on 10 and would just work them down and back up on the fly for whatever sound he had in mind while he was playing. you have to keep in mind that his guitar had 50s gibson wiring so the tone knobs don't work the same way they do with a lot of other guitars, the tone knobs on his guitar would pull mids out first, and THEN pull treble out of the sound once the knob was rolled further down, and if you listen to his bridge pickup in his #1 live, it is super bright - both with the paf and the t-top that replaced it are bright as hell. if he had his tone rolled off a majority of the time, he would have had a much less ballsy sound.
@@andrewgarcia3136 I agree that he had more treble and less mids in his tone than people think ;) As much treble and as little mids as he could get away with.
Great video. Another part of Jimmy Page's live tone was Echoplex EP3 in front of his amp(s).
Yes , exactly
Yeah especially the pre-amp of the echoplex
I got the secret amp from Chase Tone it’s just perfect
the xotic ep booster is very good to emulate this
He often set the echoplex for a short slap effect (see Whole Lotta Love TSRTS Boogie Mama part) His 2nd Echoplex was set up with the Orange Amp for the Theramin.
@@bryanwilliams3665 no it was on all the time. You can’t switch the EP-3 preamp out of the circuit. Either you have the preamp, or the preamp plus delay.
Great page tones really gets his sounds and playing
5:00 The OCEAN!!!! COOL!!! sound n execution are like Page
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Around 1973 his Les Paul had T-Tops pickups. Maybe this is the main reason for his treble live sound.
They got it right all those years ago.
Love Gibson LP married up to a Marshall tube amp.
Heaven.
Haha yes 😁
Albeit J Pages Pickups 1973 -1980 in his 59 LP were an UNBALANCED set having the Weak Gibson T Top 7.5k in the bridge and the Overwound circa 8.5K PAF (set below pickup ring!) No manufacturer unfortunately markets a Set to go into the "Wrong" Pickup Cavities.. Its annoying and misleading that Gibson 'Jimmy Page ' models are so wrong regarding the tone for Led Zeppelin.
Halfway through watching this video I was hooked and I subscribed 👍🏻😁
Thanks so much 🙏🏻
This is actually legit. Most "sound like Jimmy Page" videos sound nothing like him. Well done
Thanks so much
What a beautiful example of a Les Paul! Gibson should do more of these very slight bursts with their standard range. Sounds great too.
I tried these exact settings on my Marshall SV20 plexi head and it sounds amazing! I was having so much fun just now jamming to some Zep songs
What settings sorry
@@dmhreptiles254 Just follow along with how he sets his amp in the video. At 4:57 you can see. Volume at 10 (will be LOUD without attenuation), treble and middle around 9/10, bass at 1 and presence at 6. Should get you very close to Page's sound on a Plexi style Amp. On my SV20 it sounds spot on
Im currently thinking about buying an SV20 but now that the new ST20 has released I’m kind of second guessing since Page didn’t use that much gain (almost no more than shown in this video). Has the SV20 enough headroom (together with guitar volume controls) to achieve that?
This is "Spot On" for PRE 1973 Tone NICE! (Led Zep 2,3,4) Not Right though for 1973 Madison Square Garden Tone. I demo this on my Channel for those tone chasers . For that 1973-1980 tone You Need 'Weak" 7.5k T Top in Bridge : 8.5K (Hotter)Alnico 2 PAF in Neck ( set really low to balance) Now you get the "Hollow Chirp" Middle Pickup Sound for Whole Lotta Love (live)Riff, Rock and Roll (live) Riff etc. It might be of note that any guitars sporting 'Coil taps, phase splitting, etc are NOT period correct for Led Zeppelin.. Those Jimmy Page Mods were done 'POST' Zeppelin. Nice Demo .Well Done
Thanks 🙏🏻
Great sound by Jimmy Page! The sound is very similar
Thanks , I hope you enjoyed the video 🙏🏻
Nailed it…I worked this approach and settings with my 84 JCM 800. I was skeptical of the ocho treble but the ocho mids cooled it down. Adding the echoplex pre amp and light slapback it’s dead on. Great video!!!
It really needs that British amp sparkle and chime, sounds spot on dude! My benchmark Les Paul tone 🤟
Thanks 🙏🏻
british amp sparkle and chime?? - sparkle and chime is probably the last thing i think about when it comes to british voiced amps. Like a vox top boost??- but even then it is upper mids. Sparkle and chime and british amps...hmmm
Great sound the les Paul plus amplifier. Very cool
Thanks 🙏🏻
Tu canal ha sido un descubrimiento, da gusto un español loco igual que yo por Clapton, Page ... enhorabuena!!! sigue así
Muchísimas gracias David , comentarios como el tuyo me animan a seguir haciendo vídeos 😊 ahora mismo me estoy tomando un descanso pero volveré pronto ❤️
5:02 - Just right. Love it.
Thanks 🙏🏻
You nailed it sir!! Sounds great!!!
Thanks so much ⚡️
Absolutely fantastic!!!! That is THE sound! I'm running a similar set up as you. Your amp tone stack settings are spot on! I have a Stewmac Brit Plex, which is a mixture of JTM45 and Super Lead architecture, but definitely leans more to JTM45. Keep in mind those Marshall JTM45 re-issues weren't really faithful to the original architecture either. I think they ran EL-34 tubes, as does my Stewmac amp. All that being said, I still find it too bassy, with the volume near full up. The sweet spot seems to be at '6', where the bright cap still has some influence. The challenge at that volume is to still get the required 'crunch', so I push the amp with a few pedals....Chase Tone Secret Preamp, Colorsound Overdriver (set for treble boost with med gain), and for really searing leads, I add a Ceriatone Centura before the Overdriver, set for a slight treble boost, and again, not too much gain. If you're keeping count, that's THREE gain stages before the amp, so it requires careful balancing to not turn into a sonic mess!! I turn off the Centura for the cleaner/edge of breakup Page tones, and add it for the crunchier stuff. I'm using Bryan Williams Jimmy Page '73 pickups in my R9. I have tried a LOT of pickups, and these really nail the sound, and do so much more. You wanna know the pickups that I liked the least in my guitar.....a REAL early 60's Pat No./PAF spec neck pickup and a mid 60's T-Top. Go figure!!
Excellent playing and tone my friend. Love hearing you play. 🤘😎🎸
Thanks 🙏🏻
Con que facilidad obtienes un sonido!. Lo has clavado! Mis dieses para ti! 👏👏👏. Sin pedales ni na! Enhorabuena por tu video!
Muchas gracias , bueno , más o menos tenemos un equipo parecido aunque el usaba una les Paul del 59 y un Marshall súper bass
Wow!! That’s awesome!! It was LOUD out there, right?? 😍
Haha yes to loud
5:00 the Ocean, grandioso 😂😂😂❤❤
sounds great! are you really sitting next to a cranked marshall? my 50 Plexi ist insanely loud
Great video!,
Thanks a lot .
Me encanto el video!!! Un saludo de otro paisano de Málaga adicto al mundillo!
Muchas gracias tío , pues a ver si un día nos cruzamos 🙌🏻
Best sound on YT definitely.
Oh man , thanks so much
Sounds great! You play and look a lot like Pagey too! That SIBLY tone was spot on.
Thanks 🙏🏻 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sweet sound of a Les Paul 👍🏻
You really nailed Jimmy's tone. Excellente!!
Thanks a lot ❤️
Brilliant you totally nailed the tone.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Awesome tone and playing 👏🏻 😎
Awesome Jimmy Page tone "Since Ive been loving you" sounds very good......Thank You
Thanks 🙏🏻
It sounds identical!!! Bravo!
Thanks ⚡️🙏🏻
One other point of clarification....the Marshall TMB tone stack is a passive circuit. It cannot add gain. What you're hearing as you turn up those controls is that they are taking away less of the original signal content.
Thank you for the lesson. Sounds so good.
Thanks to you my friend 🙌🏻
Getting the bridge pick up sound is easy. Middle position is where the challenge begins
Great job on Since I’ve Been Loving You 👍🏻
Thanks 🙏🏻
Right On Brother Your Nailin It !!!!!!!
Thanks so much Justin ⚡️🙌🏻
Excellente!
This video is dope could you do one on a Clapton tone
OF COURSEEE !! Thanks 🙏🏻
@@abrildel85 you’re the greatest 🤟🏾
Love it! Great sounding guitar and amp. I have read that Page also had a T-Top in the bridge and PAF in the neck on his LP. That was also part of the special “quack” in middle position sound.
Yes , Youre correct, and the T Top is full of "Hollow Quack" or Chirp.. The Chirp is predominantly of getting IDENTICAL output from both pickups and then you get that Phase Cancellation you're hearing.. He had to set his Hot Wound Neck Pickup BELOW the pickup ring to balance that weak 7.5 Bridge T Top.. I have this sound on my channel if you are interested (Madison Sq garden tone)
@@bryanwilliams3665 I tried a T-Top replica in the bridge position and it did have a sort of unique magic, but the middle position with a PAF replica neck sounded cool but a little too dark. I find a get a good Pagey middle position tone by using identical bridge pickups in the bridge and neck positions for the frequency cancellation as you described.
@@adrianjones1735 Yes.. 2 x T Tops will get that Phase Cancellation... Page has that combo in his Doubleneck.. That Hollow Chirp middle position sound is clearly heard on the Live Stairway to Heaven solo..
On his #1 Les Paul his Higher Wind Neck Pickup is NOT higher Output.. That PAF had a magnet so weak, it barely had enough power to drive the coils.. It was a very odd PAF.. Electrically hot but Magnetically very weak to sound woody (like a Bowed Cello for lack of a better analogy) With a weak magnet, it controls somewhat that "Dark Mud" you describe .
I was fortunate to get this knowledge via Jimmy's Tech/ Roadie 1969-1972, Clive Coulson.. Clive was a New Zealander and a customer of my guitar shop in New Zealand
@@bryanwilliams3665 that makes a lot of sense because yes you can definitely hear that characteristic middle position tone on Stairway. Interesting info about his neck pickup! What a weird guitar and it turns out it yielded some amaaazing tones on those recordings. Helps that Jimmy Page was playing the guitar too haha.
@@adrianjones1735 Oh yes .. The late 50s Les Pauls were well made, but funnily there wasn't much quality control in the pick-ups.. Even the inventor Seth Lover didn't know the specs! "We just wound em til they were full!" (he said)...Sometimes the hotter pickup ended up in the neck!. A2,A3 ,A4, A5 mags were all used..A2 and A5 sounded much much closer tonally than they do today.. The magnets today are quite different...It's really hard to find vintage sounding magnets .. Women usually wound pickups in the Gibson Factory..They weren't "Gurus" ..It was a regular factory job..Good sounding PAF replicas are made in all countries...It's not Rocket science.Good magnets are key..
Your videos have helped me out in getting great tones thank you 👍🏻. What speakers do use in your cabinet?
Thanks , greenbacks
@@abrildel85 thank you so much and Happy Holidays.
I completely forgot about using subtitles. Thanks
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Stellar! I love your playing & I’m a 55 year player! You know how to get the tones out of that R9. Was that pick taco of your friend close to the plexi in tone? I have a bad back and the mini combo in a 1x 10 my bad back will love and I only play small venues.
Hi , thanks . The pink taco is similar , it has more gain , lovely amp too 😊
soy gran fan de zeppelin, muchas gracias man por los tips, se te ve majo. Te dejo mi like
Muchas gracias a ti amigo
This sounded SO GOOD! And your playing was terrific -- great job!! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks 🙏🏻
maravilloso!
Nice Page tone! I've never got a good page tone using JTM 45, I prefer Superlead for that. Anyway your playing and tone is amazing!
Thanks so much , yes super lead is better for this 🙌🏻
ola desde Portugal!!!! cual pikups tienes en essa guitarra ?!!!!
Great sound!!!!!
Stay Safe & Keep Rockin
Hola amigo , son las custombuckers unpotted alnico III
Increíble tono y que fácil se ve que lo logras ,tengo un Marshall JMP plexi 1959 hw de 100 ,crees y al menos creo me podría acercar bastante a ese sonido también .
Seguro que si 🙌🏻
Muchísimas gracias por responder Maestro.@@abrildel85
Por cierto ,olvide preguntarte si usas algún atenuador para tocar con el Marshall y cual ?@@abrildel85
*I love the fact that all the comments here are in English and this video is in Spanish haha* ... Saludos de Estadios Unidos !!
Great great tone. Awesome.
What are the tube in your JTM45 ? KT66, 6L6, 5881 ?
Thanks 🙏🏻 6L6
@@abrildel85 you’re welcome.
Thanks for your answer.
That’s what i thought (i use to think KT66 was the ones for that amp, but i prefer the 6L6, it’s sound more like a black flag then).
Sounds great! Bluesbreakers/Cream Clapton next?
Yes 🙌🏻
Great sound! What pickups are in the R9? Thanks
Thanks , custom bucker unpotted alnico 3
Abrildel,you know your Spanish is very good
Haha because I’m Spanish 😁
@@abrildel85 Si,Yo conozco!! Very good Jimmy Page JTM45 tone video!!.
Amazing video dude! Tone knob on or off?
Hola Alejandro. Me podrias recomendar un pedal parecido al KLON CENMTAURO? Gracias y Salud.
Muy bueno!!!
yu not only sound like him but even the looks
Excelente vídeo! Me gustaría hacerte una pregunta: ¿para qué sirve el control de presencia en el amplificador? Muchas gracias y a seguir así!
Es para que tenga más brillo el sonido , se puede apreciar cuando lo pongo a 0 y después al 8 , sube frecuencias medias agudas y hace que resalte más sobre la banda
Genial!! 🎉🎉🎉
Now i want a jtm45!
Haha 🤣
very nice sound....could you please tell me more about the master volume mod in your JTM45??
When I bought the amplifier it was already modified and the man who later improved it passed away unfortunately, so I don't know what he did to him ... 😢
@@abrildel85 thanks a lot
On the guitar, what volume should the volume number be at and also Tone?
¡Buen trabajo! se acerca mucho a Page, teniendo en cuenta que usaba conos G12H de 55hz en vez de Greenbacks y por aquella época una pastilla T-Top algo más aguda en el puente. Yo tengo una Solodallas en el puente de una R8 y se nota ese punch de agudos y medios frente a unas Paf, que suelen ser más redondas y comprimidas.
Muchas gracias 🙏🏻 si , intento sacar el sonido con lo que tengo , incluso el ampli es totalmente diferente el usaba un súper bass . Tu R8 sonará de maravilla 😻
El sonido viene de las manos y tú lo haces sonar de escándalo, siempre con ese toque a lo Clapton. ¿Has probado las pastillas Throbak? yo tengo un par de juegos y creo que es de las mejores que he probado. Por cierto, el Máster Volumen lo tienes siempre al máximo?
@@juanjocanadas3945 no las he probado , he oído hablar muy bien de ellas :-)
El máster lo tengo un poco más de la mitad , si estuviese abierto al máximo tendría un poco más de gain 😎
Perdoname, Mi Espano es malo. Tu guitarra "burst" es hermosa! G ran tono del Marshall!
Thanks so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Genial!
The 'Plexi' Marshall JP used was much LESS Influential in dialing in Jimmys sound than the 'unconventional' pickup arrangement (7.5k Bridge T Top, / 8.6k Overwound Neck Set below pickup ring).. Marshall Plexi Users who sound Nothing Like J Page include : Angus Young, D Allman, Slash, Malmsteen, Ace Frehley and countless others. Yes, you do need a Marshall, but a Regular Factory Les Paul ( Even a $20,000 Gibson JP Model) is all wrong. Great Demo here of the "Pre June 72" Jimmy LP Sound" and nice accurate sound on 'The Ocean' Well Done!
You look like James brolin in the amityville horror!
where can i purchase the exact les paul model he’s using?
What do you think about the 73 concert performance from Page?
I love it 🥰
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hi, may I ask what year that amp was made? Thanks
Some great tone there. I wish I understood Spanish! Nice work mate.
All my videos has subtitles
@@abrildel85 thanks mate. I didn't realise that.
@@bluesful i hope you like it 🙌🏻⚡️
@@abrildel85 I do. Having the captions is great, because being able to understand what you're saying adds all the context to the video. Great stuff.
@@bluesful thanks so much
Suena igual la guitarra, tocas bien
which speakers do you use in your cabinet
Greenbacks
Do you use attenuator with your JTM45? It must be very loud!
I have a master volume around 12oclock
What speakers are you using?
Hi , 2 Greenbacks and 1 gold alnico 😊
@@abrildel85 thank you, are the greenbacks a particular model
Hello! What amp were you using here? Thanks!
Hello , Marshall jtm45 2245
@@abrildel85 Ah ok! Thank you! How did you get it in white? Such a beautiful amp!
Hello! What year JTM 45 2245 is this? Thanks!
I’m not sure 100% but I think it’s from 90ies
What year n watt was the marshall?
Hola
Qué wah de hoy día se asemejaría a su sonido,sobre todo en:No Quarter.
Gracias.
Hola , yo uso el Xotic wah, para mi uno de los mejores sin duda
@@abrildel85 sí,es bue Wah,claro está.
Pero uno un poco más económico,me gusta el sonido Vox,más que el Dunlop.
El que dices es para sonido Page,no?.Si es que se puede lograr,pero bueno...
El sonido está en uno.
Recomendaciones please.
Gracias.
@@strikeout2143 si , el Vox normal va genial
How to sound like Jimmy Page? Start with some Jack Daniels,then add cocaine and some groupies.
Spanish 71 Jimmy Page lol
Holaaa🔥
Hola amigo
@@abrildel85 gracias por este video
Me ayuda mucho a encontrar los tonos de los guitarrista y se me hace de lo mejor. 🙌
@@eduardoortiz2627 espero que te guste amigo 🙏🏻
@@abrildel85 claro, ya hasta estoy con el ampli probando el todo
Y uso cuerdas 09-46 son ibridas y suena mucho a page el tono que sacaste es muy brutal amigo
Gracias
From your accent you must not be spanish but from some country of latin America. Am i correct?
I’m Spanish 😃
@@abrildel85 ohhh sorry pal! Wrong thought!!
@@TheParisthething haha don’t worry man it’s ok 🙌🏻😄
@@TheParisthething I knew he was Spanish from the get go... the "s" pronunciation gives it away ;)
Un Jtm 45 no es un plexi como tal, tiene un tono diferente, suena con menos pegada.
Cierto pensaba que si lo era pero no
Guys even trying to look like jimmy
Puede ser , más bien diría que es un vídeo didáctico en el a que mucha gente le puede servir o no para acercarse al sonido de Jimmy Page . Tómalo como quieras .
you're not gonna catch that early tone without a good tone bender. Sorry.
Al principio del vídeo digo que quiero sacar el sonido de page en la etapa de 1972/1973 jimmy page solo uso el tone bender en el primer disco con la telecaster el resto de su carrera no uso fuzz en directo , te disculpo
@@abrildel85Hey your tone and technique are very good. What gauge strings are you using for this demo? 9’s or 10’s
@ thanks , I’m using 10s
It's from like 1970. This is like Jimmy Page trying to cop Django Reinhardt tones when he was in zeppelin. Move on man.
Try to talk in English like Page.
Puedo hablar inglés y mis vídeos tienen subtítulos en varios idiomas , tienes algún problema con eso ? O solo has tenido un mal día y no sabes canalizarlo ? Un saludo fenómeno
Try to write in Spanish.
hola, te gustan las 09 en les paul ???
Step one: be able to afford a Plexi.... Im out lol
Hahah you can buy a Heartbreaker pedal by Thermion sounds like a plexi