The Fighting Game Flow Chart: What's Your Actual Goal In A Match?

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • FIRST ATTACK 2023 PLAYLIST: • First Attack 2023
    First Attack 2023 is a series designed to help beginners learn how to start playing Fighting Games!
    The most common question James gets from beginners is: "What am I supposed to be trying to do when I'm playing a Fighting Game?" In this episode, James explains the Fighting Game Flowchart, which outlines the general plan you should have when playing, and highlights the actual main goal you should be trying to achieve!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 64

  • @neonkaiju
    @neonkaiju Рік тому +5

    I actually love how you talk to the viewer like they don't already know 100% of the terminology. You have no idea how helpful that is; great video.

  • @stopdropPANIC
    @stopdropPANIC Рік тому +18

    As a beginner, this has been the most helpful video I've seen. It feels like the whole game has just opened up to me and now I know exactly what I ned to work on. Thanks, James!

  • @dommafia
    @dommafia Рік тому +20

    I was trying to learn luke by trying to copy all the perfect knuckle combos I saw in tournaments, that didn't get me anywhere for a week. Once I focused on his pressure, meaty setups, simple drive impact, corner, and punish combos I jumped out of silver to almost plat. After I had those basics down I started working on the optimal combos and made it to plat 2 so far. Work smarter, not harder.

    • @vanillafella4893
      @vanillafella4893 Рік тому +1

      congrats! its an amazing feeling i also started a few weeks ago and made it thru plat

  • @TrophyJourney
    @TrophyJourney Рік тому +4

    James, I don't know if you'll read this, but you've always been my ABSOLUTE favorite commentator, ever since vanilla SF4. If theres a tourney and you're doing the commentary, my hype doubles. Love from Brazil, keep being awesome!

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому +2

      Thanks, sir. I appreciate that so much! Thanks for the kind words, these types of messages really do mean a lot to me. ❤️

  • @hoemuffin
    @hoemuffin Рік тому +5

    One of the most interesting phenomena to me of modern era fighting games is the low level player that can do super optimal combos but whose entire approach is to jump in. Then there's me, using good old fashioned jab jab flashkick. If it was good enough 20 years ago its good enough now, get off my lawn 👴

  • @2Dee4ever
    @2Dee4ever Рік тому +4

    You are such a nerd, but the best kind. Not often do you find others who genuinely have love for everything including the game itself. Kudos for being genuinely you. Thanks for the insight and all that you've done for this community

  • @loopseeker
    @loopseeker Рік тому +2

    gonna binge this playlist now cuz your enthusiasm for fighting games is a treasure.

  • @mistah_mojo
    @mistah_mojo 22 дні тому

    Casually playing fighting games most of my life and have been trying to improve for the past 4 or 5 years and I gotta say, this is one of the best explanations of flowchart and how a fighting game round can go. I've learned so much just now, watching this. Thank you so much!

  • @pc20021052
    @pc20021052 Рік тому +1

    I have been playing fighting games for quite a long time but never good at it, just trying to push buttons and hope they'll hit. Now I know what to practice next. Thanks James!

  • @andresburton2130
    @andresburton2130 Рік тому +13

    3:45 Phase 1 Neutral
    4:22 Phase 2 Pressure
    5:22 Phase 3 The Mix-Up
    6:52 Phase 4 The Combo
    8:27 Phase 5 Okizeme

  • @Mr.Zonk.Knuckle
    @Mr.Zonk.Knuckle Рік тому +1

    I could hear James talk all day. Awesome episode as always!

  • @BHS289
    @BHS289 Рік тому +2

    Was always sort of aware of the phases but having it spelled out helped me think more clearly about how I should approach matches.

  • @Galaredon
    @Galaredon Рік тому +3

    Thank you James, you're the best!
    More please :)

  • @hrbr_deluxe
    @hrbr_deluxe Рік тому

    This has been an excellent series. The concepts and your descriptions have done wonders to help me (and I'm sure others) understand how to think while playing fighting games. Also, you are a great speaker. You take proper pauses and put emphasis in the perfect places. I'll definitely recommend this series to anyone I meet wanting to learn how to play fighting games. Thank you!

  • @JordansMortalKombatAdven-xn3qo
    @JordansMortalKombatAdven-xn3qo 4 місяці тому

    This has been super helpful I hope you are planning on doing more videos in this series soon

  • @lewiswood9286
    @lewiswood9286 Рік тому

    This video is awesome. I've been a fighting game fan ever since i was a kid, but i've never had a keen grasp of what the flow of a match actually consists of. Really looking forward to elevating my game. Liked & subscribed. Thanks, Chen!

  • @DOTzTheOmen
    @DOTzTheOmen Рік тому

    Fantastic video! You're great at explaining fighting game concepts. I'm looking forward to more Firs Attack.

  • @franker86
    @franker86 Рік тому

    Thank you, professor Chen.

  • @BonsaiBeard
    @BonsaiBeard Рік тому

    Thanks Professor Chen.

  • @crespelle
    @crespelle Рік тому

    Best explanation I've ever heard

  • @DelasVC
    @DelasVC Рік тому

    Hype hype hype this video series up!!!

  • @r0untaz
    @r0untaz Рік тому

    amazing content for people new to fighting games :) thank you!

  • @Mage_Nichlas_
    @Mage_Nichlas_ Рік тому

    One of the easiest mixup is to subvert your opponent's perception of your character. Jump forward as a zoner, play defensive as a rushdown, go fullscreen away as a grappler(if you are confident in letting your opponent win).
    Round start jump forward as Guile typically isn't expected and can catch other fireball characters like Dee Jay off. I've been told that run up grab in Strive is highly unorthodox but I love clicking run as Axl and throw looping my friend.
    It's still a risk though. Putting your character out of their preferred range isn't really beneficial unless you've successfully mixed the opponent so don't rely on out of style attempts like these unless your opponent is consistently getting clobbered by it.

  • @remigengogakusha
    @remigengogakusha Рік тому

    Truly, knowing is half the battle 😺Now my mind will protect me

  • @penguindude24
    @penguindude24 Рік тому

    Good video James. I think a lot of newcomers will benefit from this info.

  • @2Namii
    @2Namii Рік тому +1

    Awesome breakdown of these concepts.

  • @killahteck402
    @killahteck402 Рік тому

    Well said James

  • @jet1radio3
    @jet1radio3 Рік тому

    Thanks James!

  • @DOTzTheOmen
    @DOTzTheOmen Рік тому

    Public Chenemy is SPITTIN

  • @AyyoNevNev
    @AyyoNevNev Рік тому

    Honey wake up, First Attack new episode.

  • @jessealvesgaldino7915
    @jessealvesgaldino7915 Рік тому

    Great content as always. Thank you!

  • @clairemadeinheaven
    @clairemadeinheaven Рік тому

    Thanks, I played SF4 but skipped on 5, this is a great refresher

  • @sometingclever
    @sometingclever Рік тому

    Super helpful video!

  • @atomicskillet
    @atomicskillet Рік тому

    Another banger.

  • @marquezekelley8374
    @marquezekelley8374 Рік тому

    It's funny I see all these tips and tricks get better quick videos on UA-cam but I don't see anybody getting better

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому

      If these videos help even two or three people get that lightbulb moment and become stronger, it’s worth it.

  • @mikejonesnoreally
    @mikejonesnoreally Рік тому

    Thanks for another piece of the puzzle!
    Just for the record Chen Sama, when i used to chide my friends (At the *height* of the Street Fighter 2 phenomenon our entire FGC was 4 guys, 1 girl, and a cat.) with taunts of "Wow, you guys're gonna' need a *flow chart."* it was supposed to be a joke! xD
    Yet here we are........playing Street Fighter is SO much different from winning at Street Fighter! o.o

  • @nettgemeint8
    @nettgemeint8 Рік тому

    Hey James, I'm trying to get good at SF6 right now. I'll think of this video the next time I play. Keep up the good work. You're a legend! The background music was super hectic though. :D

  • @Ninjerky
    @Ninjerky Рік тому

    AWESOME VIDEO! Thank You!

  • @easygoingdude9990
    @easygoingdude9990 Рік тому

    It me. I’m the dude who starts learning combos before anything else

  • @RafaelVolcanes
    @RafaelVolcanes Рік тому

    I started in Iron League and I'm about to hit Gold with basic reads and pokes; zero combos or tricks. At the core, this game is about the neutral and information management. Even if you're a slow learner, practice with purpose.

  • @MaximumCarnage-
    @MaximumCarnage- Рік тому

    To win!

  • @fugutabetai
    @fugutabetai Рік тому

    My goal when I play fighting games: To crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

  • @bamboogamingtvsnap
    @bamboogamingtvsnap Рік тому

    Your channel is dope

  • @malcovich_games
    @malcovich_games Рік тому

    Phase 1... Proceed!

  • @richr161
    @richr161 Рік тому

    Its good, but it would be nice if you used a visual aid.

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому

      Agreed 100%. However, I’m trying something different this time. The older First Attack videos, I put in a TON of work. Slides, screen caps, examples, etc. And no one watched any of them. I burned out super fast making them. It just wasn’t worth the effort at that point.
      So I’m trying some advice I was given to try and make these educational videos as simple as possible, low editing, etc. That way I can keep making them, never feel burned out, and thus I can keep making them. It’s an experiment for sure. But the other method CLEARLY didn’t work.

  • @carlospalhares40
    @carlospalhares40 Рік тому

    👍

  • @Belbaisy
    @Belbaisy Рік тому

  • @pyrexia80
    @pyrexia80 Рік тому

    Would be nicer if you could include gameplay examples as you talk over it.

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому +4

      I want to, but I’m trying an experiment. A lot of older educational videos I did I put in examples, I used slides, I did all this editing work. Took me DAYS to make the videos. And no one watched them. And I spent a LOT of time essentially for nothing.
      Sajam told me that maybe the secret was to make educational videos that don’t require as much work, don’t worry about editing and examples and all that. So I’m trying that route. See if it works and if it allows me to keep making these videos and not get burned out by maximum effort and low rewards. My previous First Attack 2020 was super detailed, and just stopped part way through because I got sooooo discouraged from editing. :-(

  • @SuperemeRed
    @SuperemeRed Рік тому

    @UltraChenTV - The background music volume is a bit high, it becomes tiresome after a while when trying to listen what you are saying. Also the mic or audio sound a bit too compressed (loudness), which is tricking your ears into believing the overall volume is higher than it is, and again makes it triesome to listen to for long durations.

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому

      I actually thought the BGM was too quiet. O_o Maybe my ears are bad. As for microphone, man, I really wish I had someone who could check my setup. Audio is the worst for me, and knowing what I can do to improve the mic sound is just beyond my scope of knowledge. I don’t even know what “too compressed” sounds like. :-(

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому

      Point is: I totally believe you and ai wish I knew more on how to fix it.

  • @ELGUAPOIV
    @ELGUAPOIV Рік тому

    My goal is to humiliate and dominate noobs and bad players. I will AFK if my opponent is: higher ranked, uses meta characters, plays on console, uses wifi. I have three monitors, so I can easily just AFK while I watch live streams or play games on my other monitors.

  • @jordanmorgan6540
    @jordanmorgan6540 Рік тому

    When’s the next dropping??

    • @UltraChenTV
      @UltraChenTV  Рік тому +1

      Probably after Evo, sadly. Been really busy of late (and can’t lie, just been really out of it mentally of late. 😢). I should be getting back into the swing of things post Evo.

    • @jj-cz3rq
      @jj-cz3rq Рік тому

      @@UltraChenTV Looking forward to it!

  • @1deagr
    @1deagr Рік тому

    first

  • @jj-cz3rq
    @jj-cz3rq Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @gyasiburris417
    @gyasiburris417 Рік тому

    Thanks James!