2022 Subaru BRZ - 5000 Miles Later - MAJOR Issues and What's Next!
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2022
- After 4 months and 5000 miles of ownership, here are the issues I've had with my 2022 Subaru BRZ. And... a preview of what's to come!
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Thank you for letting us know about the radiator and the turn signal issues. Much appreciated 👍
Great video for someone like me who’s trying to decide on buying a 2022. This really gives a true ownership view for the person I think represents the “typical” owner who wants to do some track days but will mostly use as a regular daily/road driver. So many UA-cam owners go crazy with mods, which is OK, but doesn’t really represent what ‘most’ owners really do in real life (just my opinion). I REALLY appreciate your choice about not changing the suspension! This car (and GR86) are so well known for their stock suspension, it makes a lot of sense to not change it because so much use time will be road driving versus track time. Thanks for the clear concise ownership details.
I brought my BRZ to the dealership for the turn signal issue and here's what they told me: the electric system that control the turn signal is located in a place where it's vulnerable to humidity/cold. So in their opinion, it's normal and not a problem and that should just ventilate the humidity as frequently as possible. I've never been in a car that have that problem and like you said, I find it extremely dangerous. They should really do a recall to fix this.
Yes, that answer is... Well... Nonsense. It is not a problem but that would make the car fail inspection (at least on my country). Seems just trying to delay solving it until warranty expires and then it is the owners problem (and wallet)
Never had the turn signal issue but I'll certainly be keeping an eye on the coolant. Appreciate knowing about that.
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I might be the one you’re referring to in group with Radiator problems. Another member messaged me saying he had the same issue and got the radiator replaced. Looks like a bit of a trend.
Wow. Hopefully we're just unlucky and it's not actually a manufacturing/engineering issue.
Koyorad radiator it is 🤣
Wow that was fast....too many other good new cars coming... excited
We have almost the exact same mileage lol. Great vid! see you at the next track day man
My BRZ had the turn signal issue too. I had it since the last winter and the turn signal failed more frequently when the temperature is lower, I live in Michigan, so it is pretty cold during the winter. What I also observed was any type of strong light (high beam, sunlight, or even snow reflection light) behind me can trigger the turn signal failure. I brought my car to the dealer twice, the first time they swap the entire car computer and it didn't solve the problem; the second time they swapped the entire rear light unit and it seems to work fine now.
I'm definitely keeping this in mind, mine hasn't been as bad, my shifter has been noticeably notchy unless I hold the clutch longer.
The first gen is the same ... just some bushings away from a fix or get used to it
I would add a wire mesh rock blocker in front of the radiator. Also have the dealer mechanic look at the turn signals.
Man I love your videos!
The blinker issue sounds like intermittent connection in the wiring with the resistor that regulates the pulsing of the blinker light.
high temp dot 4 blinker fluid. you are welcome.
@@LP777- works like a charm!
@@LP777- dot 3 has better lubrication for piston return springs
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GR86 here with the intermittent turn signal issue as well. Seems totally random. Had the dealer "reset" it, whatever that means, my 1k oil change but it has still happened since then 😕
Also about the under steer Subaru specifically set up the car to be more “laid back” they stiffened the front seat bars and slacked off the rear making it more under steer biased vs the gr86 which has the direct opposite set up
I have the GR 86 and i can confirm this. Although i never test drove the BRZ
I got to street the GR86 in the cold and wet. It seemed perfectly setup for this condition. I had to coach it to go sideways, but when most rear drive would start to go into uncontrolled spin, the GR86 would swing back the other way with just a bit of lift-off. The lift off at the point of no-return is really cool, since it almost feel like you're floating in neutral for a split second. Granted, this all happening with Track mode (...doubtful that other mode will give you same level of control in the slick stuff).
I know I'll be going with crash bolts rather than going through and overhauling all the suspension. I've heard good things about the ride quality and that's just not something I want to sacrifice. Wallet will thank me also. Really interested to see how that oil cooler performs on the next track day and maybe your thoughts on it for daily use. Good video 🙂
Exactly how I feel. Stock ride comfort is surprisingly good and I don't want to give that up.
I had a 2011 Mustang GT and upgraded the suspension for track days. The upgrade included adjustable shocks, but it was just too stiff to really enjoy as a daily driver. I think you made a good choice keeping the stock suspension.
On my previous BRZ I was able to get -2.3 degrees of camber with OEM Crash bolts in upper hole and SPC Camber Bolt (81305) in the lower hole.
I’m in a similar boat with my GR86, thinking to keep stock dampers in place for 86Cup stock class. I’ve seen people do OEM crash bolts + SPC camber bolts + Pedders Offset Camber Castor mounts (PED-580096), which has a OEM style rubber top mount for less NVH to achieve -3.0 to -3.2 degrees camber and a bit more caster gain. SPC bolts are about $20 per pair, and Pedders top hats are around $160 per per pair.
I hope you’re able to share your experiences of the 86Drive Challenge/86Cup before moving on to a different platform. Thanks for taking us along the journey!
What is Zygrene set-up he mentioned an OEM camber bolt.
I bought the OEM adjustable from the VA WRX and it is too tight to fit.
Do you guys have the OEM part number?
I'll keep an eye on the radiator/coolant.
Should have gotten the Toyota the badge is magical for reliability lmao 🤣
Get fortune auto coils I’ve put them on almost every car I’ve had and they ride amazing on the street and have zero body roll on the track it’s actually insane how they achieve it. The 510’s are gonna ride a bit stiffer but will be more track oriented but I’ve bought the 500’s which are more for once and awhile track days and great for daily driving. Cool thing is you can get in the door with the 500’s and build them up as you go they are modular so you can add piggy backs and air ride cups( more for the stance guys). Also if you get them make sure you get the swift springs.
I run Driven Oil DI20/30 mix in the BRZ and ran DI30 in the WRX. Kept my temps a bit lower and never spiked on the road
Hi there. I'm also driving a 2022 BRZ and would like to confirm that I have the same turning signal issue. Sometimes when I pull the lever, the green arrow indicator blinks at a high frequency on my dashboard. I don't know how the turning signal lights behave from the outside. If they simply don't light up in this case, that would be really dangerous. I'll keep an eye on this. Many thanks for your video!
sorry about the cracked radiator, I'd be mostly upset that it sprayed everywhere, but overall an easy fix. i'm curious about the oil cooler, did you get any info on how it affects warranty coverage?
The dealer didn't mind at all when I showed it to them! Probably varies by dealer
@@Zygrene i told my dealer i planned to track/modify the car a bit and they try to sell me extended warranty i said no thanks. Hope it doesnt bite me in the ass....
Curios what the build date is of your car and the second one with radiator issue.
You sound like that annoying cust service agent with the "i am sorry about your experience" and would be mostly upset that it sprayed everywhere" 🤣 ....
🤦🏽♂️
Thanks for the great content and track focus. I own a 2012 boxster base with first gen PDK. I actually think it would be great on track, but I have never been before. I know you have owned several Porsches. Do you have any advice on how I should track prep my boxster and which track days I should try as a first timer? I'm also in SoCal.
For a 987.2, I believe all you need is upgraded pads and DOT4 fluid. Besides that, just make sure maintenance is up to date and you're good to go!
Make sure your tires are less than 4 years old as well! My SCCA group would not allow you on track with tires over 5 years old, they've seen too many tire failures under the stress of track use.
You can add adjustable camber bolts on the front. I also have had a signal issue, seemed like it happened when it got really cold, but who knows. I drive like a grampa and get 28mpg.
Love your videos. Thanks.
I appreciate your approach to modifying your car. Some people will jump straight to top shelf coilovers without contemplating what compromises they’re making in ride and NVH.
He has an NSX and some wild Carrera, he doesn't need to rice up some POS slow brz.
GR COROLLA INCOMING. Thats my guess since you said 6-12 months. I’m currently on the fence between the GR86 and GR Corolla. To very different cars but both enthusiast fun.
what with all the N type hyundai cars out there trying to compete with the civic Si I would definitely like to see what toyota can produce with the GR corolla as far as track numbers and overalls as far as daily idealistic bs as well as track potential. Its quickly become one of the greatest jumps in MPG/performance and overall daily to streetable fun weve seen in a blink of an eye from what was once just the civic SI or GTI/GLI demographic
Has anyone here tried the Mazda3 AWD/Turbo on track? Just curious, I think it might be interesting.
What made you decide on the Blue ? Where there other Colors you considered ?
the fast blink is to let you know you have a bulb out in most cars that I have owned, did you check those?
His issue is not canbus related
I'm at around 4300 miles now and still going strong
I live in San Ramon we must live close to each other. Great video
Haven’t checked my turn signal yet, just assumed it was working from the outside. My issue I have found is the apple CarPlay disconnects randomly and it very annoying, have to shut the car down and restart for it to work again.
My Android Auto tends to bug out randomly too, but a quick unplug/replug of the USB cable fixes it
Starts at 2:00
Dude let him get paid! We are watching content for free so there is no harm to listening to a little ad for a while
@@martinrps13 u rite
Looks like you drove through Mission Blvd in Fremont. Are you based in the East Bay Area?
I’m a 2022 GR86 owner of 5 months now. From the first day, I’ve noticed a grindy “churning” noise when slowing down(mostly in 1st gear) to a stop. Its louder if I’m rolling downhill in first gear at a low speed. I thought it was a possible break-in symptom. However I’m at 2246 miles now, and the sound is still there. I’m hoping it doesn’t get worse, but it is worry-some. :/
What rpm do you hear the noise at? Engine braking has a slight sound to it but it shouldn't be loud or grindy
Not sure what that could be, unless you're allowing the rpm to fall a bit too low while in gear
@@Zygrene if the rpm is too low in the gear that’s the car telling you it’s about to stall. Every car does that when in too low of rpm for any gear. You have to either keep the rpm’s up, slip the clutch, or put in the clutch and let it coast
If you don't want headaches don't buy first year production cycle.
Why are you putting it in first to stop? Brakes failed or something?
Thank you.
Hi did you hear about engine problems or oil bern on 2022 BRZ ,my car is at Subaru dealer and my engine nocks ,they don't want to repair it ,saying it's my fault for driving it too fast ,which happened only once, any advise?
I had the same exact issue with my radiator on my gr86 with only 1300 miles
To me it sounds like it's already weak and after those first few heat cycles the metal comes a part and coolant sprays out
Looks like they also have been using too much sealant on the oil pan and possibly the timing chain cover, breaking off and clogging the oil filter, destroying the engine due to oil starvation..
I must be doing something right .I average 34 to 37 mph in my 2017 86 with 32 k miles .Last weekend cruised the Mountains of NH and VT and got 36.7 mpg . The car has Raceland coilovers ,Borla header and Magna flow complete exhaust ,adjustable rear control arms and strut bars
There is a such thing as city mpg vs hwy mpg. He was discussing his city mpg not hwy mpg.
@@riseabove3082 Lucky me then ,i don't have to drive in the city
My racecomp engineering super street coilovers actually improved ride quality over the stock suspension.
I bought RCE Tarmac 2 but probably going to sell them. Just can't imagine ride quality improving with a 1" drop in ride height plus stiffer spring rates.
Zygrene that’s the magic of a quality damper.
I read on a fb group that the engine has blown on the '22 in completely stock form 😢
Short and Sweet... i love it. Wondering how many owners have replaced the 15mm hollow RSB for something a little stiffer. In contrast, I recall the 86 RSB is both solid and larger. In terms of wagging the tail, some have observed the 86 is a little more gradual/predictable vs. the BRZ. Thanks for the tips Zy... really appreciate it!
Talking about issues at 6:27
I hope I get my gr corolla too. Have a good feeling that's what you mean
how hard would it be to find a brz/gr86?
Fast blinking indicates a bad bulb 💡 try changing it out, see if that is the issue
Bet he'll end up with a GR (FOUR) Corolla. The prospect of a highly strung 3 cyl turbo with AWD is too tempting to pass up!
Oil cooler blocking heat transfer of radiator. Anything that blocks radiator is not good unless you change radiator design.
Need to top off the turn signal fluid after that radiator leak.
Nice review! Btw what brand are your glasses? They look a lot like my next pair lol
The factory camber bolts made my turn in much sharper for autocross. I have not measured how much they changed the camber but to me it certainly feels better and more balanced when driving at the limit. Changing to Falken RT660 tires also made a big difference in terms of ramping up where the “edge” is.
Okay no wonder I felt like I saw a double flick turning signal in my dashboard. I thought I was really trippen about how the turn signals flash (For ex. click click, click.. click click, click)
The only car I've ever had a radiator fail on was my 04 WRX at around 90k miles. The plastic header came apart from the aluminum finned portion. I wasn't real impressed with that. Also, I install wire mesh behind the lower grill of all my cars (paint it black beforehand, nobody can see it). This to keep rocks out of the AC condenser, which is huge $$$ if punctured.
I knew something was up with my oil temps!! On back roads my oil temps have shot up !
For back road driving I think the stock cooling system is more than adequate
@@Zygrene I remember watching a video of Tsuchiya driving the car during a time attackstyle event, and I could sit there and watch the oil temps rise over the course of the run
Will you consider changing the stock battery to a lightweight battery (for example a Shorai)?
Nope, I've seen people with lightweight batteries struggle with starting issues. Not worth it for a daily.
I'm doing an Antigravity battery install in my Cayman in a few days...here's hoping for the best.
@@DC5Brandon Hope it goes well for you. I wonder what factors should you look at when choosing a lithium-ion battery other than weight and cold cranking amps?
@@paulshi5974 Thanks. I'm keeping the old battery for a while just in case. I wanted the smallest one, but Antigravity suggested the 40 amp hour battery for my street driven Cayman. I still have radio, AC, airbags, so this is no racecar. It's just 5 lbs more than their lightest battery meant for track-focused cars. The 40AH model offers 1500 CA, so should be sufficient. Also, MotoIQ chose this battery for one of their car projects and they're very knowledgeable.
@@DC5Brandon 1500 CA sounds impressive! The Shorai 36AH battery I am looking at for my incoming GR86 offers 540CA, and I thought that was good enough (according to 86/BRZ forums as well as a video of starting an FRS with the Shorai battery in 25ºF weather)
Wow. I was really thinking about picking up a BRZ, but this video gives me hesitation.
In this day and age, unless you get it in writing from the dealer, I wouldn't trust a word they say regarding 'it's okay that you modified it.'
If I had to guess you have a bad turn signal flash relay module.
A different platform? Like a different car or moving to motorcycles?
Different car. Never really been interested in motorcycles.
are you changing platforms because the car is slow?
Nope! I think the BRZ is quick enough for me. I just have car ADD and always seek new experiences.
I would love a review on Tein Flex A for daily
Honestly I haven't heard good things about Tein, but I need to try it firsthand
Yea get that Corolla !
lol
I guess the only coilovers that would maintain the ride comfort is ohlins
Will be trying a GR86 with Ohlins soon, hopefully
@@Zygrene Ohlins are the to go IMO on any car if budget allows it. I often drive an S2000 on Ohlins and despite being set on the harder side of the spectrum, they still comply really well on B roads without being too bouncy or back killer.
How would you compare the driving experience between the BRZ and the S2000?
I did a video on this recently!
No link in the reply? Fail.
Integra Type S?
daaaamn he got the sponsorship now
Moving to the Z?
I'd heard about the turn signal issue shortly after I got mine. I'm at just over 3100 miles and I'm due for the first service but haven't had any issues at all, thankfully. I'm curious how you're only getting 21-24mpg average; I usually have my cross bars and yakima bike carrier on and I've been averaging over 27
Interesting. I've also been getting around only 21-23 mpg in my GR 86. It's a daily driver...of course I have a lil fun sometimes...but mostly commute in slow going traffic.
@@davidbradley2316 The traffic filled commute would definitely kill mpg on a car like this. For comparison I'm usually doing 50 - on Texas highways in the early morning so that would be a big factor.
Seems like you like the BRZ as a learner-car, but that the man/machine connection that sometimes happens, hasn't. Does seem possible to fix your main issue with the car, understeer, in a way that you could daily-drive. But that achieving that perfect balance would be expensive and then the car still might not inspire you, making it not worth it. Seems likely the Civic Type R and the GR Corolla will also have some understeer, though a stronger man/machine connection. But still, they won't crescendo or turn in like a 992 GT3. Or rumble and roar like a Shelby. Or throttle oversteer like an M2 CS. Part of the issue is you've driven that level of car.
Damn. You might have hit the nail on the head. Getting to review nice cars is a privilege and a curse.
that’s the thing about a daily driver, they often need to wow the owner on some level in their key role, like big horsepower that they can take advantage of. the BRZ seems to have undone a little bit of that magic by making it slightly more prone to understeer.
How about the JDM GR Spring/Strut setup?
Please enlighten me!
@@Zygrene Gazoo Racing made a spring/strut setup for the Japanese market. I believe it’s non-adjustable, but I am not 100% certain. Some people stateside already have it and reviewed it so it might be worth checking out. It’s expensive at $2k though..
Dam, haven’t been on the channel in a while. I don’t know if it’s the lighting; but you’re aging!
Lol I used my proper camera instead of a GoPro this time. But your boy is definitely getting old 👴
@@Zygrene still great content bro!
GR Corolla coming soon 🙌
Not with that peanut size engine..lol..new TypeR…
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@@zcmdzpp127 yet drum roll... they make same power despite displacement lol. Zygrene isn't buying FWD imo never once seen one he owned on channel in several years
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks FWD is not as fun but if you can drive FWD fast, you can drive anything fast…AWD only makes sense in dirt and bad weather for the extra weight/cost/drivetrain loss…
@@zcmdzpp127 nah fwd past 7/10 is trash it's like marrying a fat woman you're just settling for less good luck
I think they realized american drivers don't use turn signals and decided to deactivate it xD
🤣🤣🤣🤣Saves enough power drain on alternator to help stop "Global Warming"
@ 2:08 person in that white van just staring at you rofl
My turn signals on my BMW don’t work well either… honest… 👀 😂
Right.... 🤐
Anyone have rattle from the dome light?
New platform? Nissan Z me thinks!
What brand oil cooler?
Says setrab right on it
I have seen this video before. I just wanted to add ontop of the issues that people might have found with this platform atm.
So there's a few cases now that the factory over seal the timing cover. Some of the excessive RTV would get knock loose into the oil pan. Hence eventually end up in the strainer before the pick up tube to block off oil pickup, which ultimately causing oil starvation on the engine and spinning a rod bearing.
I wonder if zygrene can look into that and do a blog about it. (Maybe drop the oil pan of your zd8 for a peace of mind?)
Have you tried flushing your blinker fluid?!?! Might help woth your blinker issue.
Let me guess, thinking about The new GR Supra next?
Tempting but likely out of my price range
Manual supra 👀 but please dont sell the nsx to get it
I feel like supras are too collectable to Really be having fun in them. They're also a Little bit of a pig compared to Zygrenes usual cars.
Nope, not selling the NSX! I have plans in store for it 🙂
GR Corrola I'm guessing.
What do they call them "crash bolts"? (I'm spanish, so sorry if that is a known car slang term in USA) Are they really oem? I didn't understand this mod. Btw, I have a GR86 on order
To correct camber after a crash and frame or suspension is bent
GR Manual Supra or GR corolla?
Both are compelling but it comes down to price and reviews
@@Zygrene its over 70k out the door for the supra now, so not cheap. The GR Corolla base with performance pack will probably be 40k, circuit edition will probably be 45k, well thats what I am thinking.
Supra is tough for a daily...
@@retrograde11 it’s a bmw should be pretty comfortable and clearly he doesn’t need the back seats.
ive seen that the gr86 is a way more playful and oversteery car compared to the brz,
PLEASE invest in a better mic. The audio is tinny with way too much background noise.
You must not have watched the same video as the rest of us
I don’t like the steering wheel material.
Different platform = Nissan Z?
Cautiously optimistic for the Z. Waiting to see reviews.
@@Zygrene yeah same, hoping it out classes the Supra
You did the ad while driving.... Amazing that you thought to yourself. "I should do this ad while driving down a highway." yes, just keep taking you hand off the wheel to look directly into the camera as your passing people on the inside .
9:09 A different platform hhhmm
he's guna drop that brz and pick up the new z
Cautiously optimistic about the new Z. There are other cars I'm more excited about at the moment.
Manual supra, or z, come back in 11 months and tell me I was right.
He said different platform 8-12 months. This can only mean two things. New GR Corolla or Type R. 😉
@@retrograde11 gr Corolla
A91MT inbound 😆
im in livermore random.... import auto tech is my shop
neat
Supra mt I bet
What does your tat say?