There is another UA-camr in England that addressed the same issue just a few days ago regarding haters accusing him of some nefarious conduct with advertisers or accessory companies. It seems some people are deeply cynical and darkly pessimistic and small-minded, etc., as a rule.
Electric cars are far more damaging to the environment. To make a battery requires 12 tons of rock for lithium, 5 tons of cobalt minerals, 3 tons of mineral for nickel and 12 tons of copper ore. Move 250 tons of soil to obtain 12kg of lithium, 30 pounds of nickel, 22kg of manganese, 15 pounds of cobalt, 200kg of aluminum, steel and plastic. All this to make a “zero emissions” car.
Sorry but this is wrong. Studies have shown that it takes about on year for electric cars to save in the CO2 that is spent during production. While IC cars keep producing CO2 their whole life. Also IC also use a lot of the resources you mention, pluss allot of resources is spent producing and refining the fuel.
Incorrect. Yes electric vehicles aren't perfect but its far from as simple as you make it sound, LCA's show they're better then ICE over life. But the other important fact you neglected to mention was health, no tailpipe emissions in cities is much better for all of our health and reduces the impact on the health service. Now, despite all of this I'm a petrol head, always been into cars and drive an M140i a similar car to Darcy, im getting into biking to enable me to enjoy the ICE a little longer whilst reducing my emissions. What I'm not going to do is blindly state that EV's are worse than ICE just because it suits my agenda.
@@emilrydstrm3944I think you will find it’s not time but milage, and an average EV needs to go between 70,000 to 90,000 miles before it has any green return. By then the battery will be shot anyway. Smart people are not fooled by the green credentials of EV’s, you just have to think about it for a minute or two and get to the same conclusion. But, if you like EV’s go ahead just don’t pretend they are good for the planet, just don’t force us to come along with you.
I love the content you two come up with. The dialogue is really interesting, and I seriously find it quite difficult to disagree with most of what either of you have to say either. It just makes good sense and is well thought out. The dad and son dynamic just makes it quite unique and entertaining.
Here's a question - you guys seem to agree on most things (bike related) so what is the biggest source of disagrement bikewise (if any!). Loving your podcasts, great addition to your main channel - keep up the good work fellas.
“Suicide shifter” is a misnomer. In the days of the hand shifter and foot clutch it was considered normal. In the late ‘50s to mid ‘60s the chopper guys thought it was cool to cut off the giant ugly shift lever and just have a little stub coming off the transmission itself. By constantly reaching down under your butt you looked like a jockey slapping a horse. That became known as a jockey shift. They also thought that a front brake was ugly and dangerous so those went in the bin. They wanted the clutch to work like a car clutch so they rigged it backwards. Then they put a hefty spring on it so it would be engaged whenever your foot was off of the pedal. So, you’re riding in San Francisco on a steep hill with a stoplight at the top. You need your right foot on the brake pedal to keep from rolling backwards. You need your left foot on the clutch pedal to keep from rolling through the intersection. And you need a third foot to hold the bike up!😮 That setup got the name suicide clutch for a good reason. One last historical aside. Harley foot clutches engaged by stepping down on the front portion of the pedal. Indians were the opposite! Both were rigged to stay where you put them. You could set the drag (friction zone) to crawl at 1 mph at idle and it would do it all day.
You guys are great. Thanks for sticking with it. You helped me make a bike decision recently. There would be a market for reproduction MGs, Triumphs, etc., here in the US. I had a small incident when I was 16. Scared the heck out of me. I ended up on the ground under a car. Low speed at an intersection with sand on the road.
Great content guys and love your easy going conversation. My son (27) and I are both bikers and have similar conversations over facetime . Bike chat for bikers - brilliant! I too cannot understand Triumph's insurance situation. When my son passed his bike test at age 24 non of the dealerships would allow him to test ride any of thier bikes. I own two Triumphs (a T120 and a Tiger Sport 1050) and went in with him to our local dealership, explaining that he was in the market for a new Triumph, even wanting thier in-house finance package. They absolutely would not let him test ride a bike. In the end he went to a well known UK wide second hand bike seller, had a test ride on a Street Scrambler without any issues and bought it from them on the basis of how supportive they were. Triumph have now lost two potential buyers of new bikes.
I live in the countryside not too far from the Ol man. And it amazes me some of the people I come across on the roads nearby. Most common is people crossing onto the wrong side of the road on blind corners on the country roads. Happens way too often, any wonder how I haven't seen an accident on one of them yet. Don't even get me started on the speed some people do. My dad has always told me "Drive to the conditions of the road". Weather that means going faster or slower than the speed limit.
Modern Classic Cars!!! What a very interesting idea, you are 100% correct, there is no such category of car and no manufacturer seems to be even looking in this direction. Now you have really set me thinking, why is this not a thing?
Thankfully, there is such a category - they are called restomods but you need a donor vehicle to start with. Jaguar Land Rover and Porsche were the first to cotton on to this market gap.
Here’s a good topic characters of bikes. My son’s bike is a 2016 HD sportster with ape bars and vane and Hines pipes. The bike looks awesome and has that EVO charm and sound. My bike is 2014 HD road king with a lot of upgrades that make it sound awesome with a high end sound system. Nothing sweeter than rolling down the back roads with a bike with loads of character and blasting your favorite music! That’s real Therapy! I love how you both do videos! Keep up the good work!
Funny thing about insurance. One of my cheapest bikes to insure was a ZX-14. The insurance company claimed only old people would purchase it, so the fact that it would do damn near 190mph and the quarter mile in about 10 seconds flat was no big consideration in their calculations.
And that's a fair point, but also in fairness to the guys you can only make comments on the bike you have at the time, which a lot of the chinese ones they have tested are new and in light of that they can only review it on that basis.
Fair point, 3 or 4 years ago you wouldn't have touched one but quality is definitely improving. Most of the European manufacturers already have manufacturing agreements in China.
Currently ride a Lexmoto ZSX-R 125 (Chinese) and it’s 3 1/2 years old. Passed its MOT with no issues or advisories and has currently ridden over 10k miles in all weathers in the UK. Great bike with no issues, they are not all bad.
I bought a Chinese 125 and it fell apart,even with 40 years of experience of motorcycle ownership.The only parts that didn't wear out were the engine,wheels and frame,there was no lubrication or primer anywhere.
Absolutely agree with the antiquated system that insurers use to ‘qualify’ power to determine policy pricing. It’s been so unfair since I was a teenager (many years ago!). Will it ever change? Probably not in my lifetime. Great podcast, with well rounded views on biking matters from real bikers. Well done guys. Happy (safe) biking New Year.👍👍🤘
A very interesting chat which, I’m sure, everyone can relate to. The tangents were as interesting as the intended context. Looking forward to the coming reviews, I’ll sub.
Love the new podcast format fellas - well done. Audio sounds good. Relaxed and improvised set up - no tripod? Oh, here's a fruit bowl 🤔😔It's good to hear that you're expanding your horizons and checking out bikes which are away from your usual bread and butter. Smart move. It'll be interesting to see what the viewing figures are like for some types of bike. But don't get disheartened if there aren't as many channel hits for some generas. Those who criticise for not understanding how you'd provide a non paid, biased review can be safely ignored. Some keyboard warriors get out of bed on the wrong side and are just in the mood to pick a fight, no matter how irrelevant or absurd.
Just found this channel and subscribed. My dad is a huge part of my life and the reason i began riding at all. He currently has his bought new never getting rid of 1991 Honda CBR600 f2. I have a Triumph street triple RS 765. No questions, but wanted to say looking forward to seeing more content.
I have a 22 1200 speed twin gearbox buttery smooth looks good lots of power to overtake safety I'll have to look for your videos on what you thought of the speed twin 1200 love your videos
Happy Christmas you two. Enjoyed your channel this year. Think the trouble with modern bikes is blandness, generally. Euro regs don’t help but there’s next to nothing on the market today that even remotely interests me. Of course the other big issue is our Government screwing motorists to death, tax, petrol price, hidden speed cameras, ULEZ etc etc. It’s not easy to just have a relaxing ride out.Anyway, it is what it is.
I find myself rather bored with the state of cruisers and retros these days. It seems like only Harley Davidson and Royal Enfield are active in the market segment. BSA feels like they're just copying RE, and Norton feels like they're just copying Triumph and marking it up 20%. It seems like you need to love naked and supersport to find anything interesting on today's field.
I've got some questions: Is Dad/Ol' Man still moving to Spain? Do you ever miss the Heritage or were you over it? Over 1 million views with the Sportster, maybe a Sportster project bike. Have any of your other videos reached 1 million views? Maybe a visit to HQ or factory of Goldtop, Watsonian, Triumph, BSA if possible. In any event, the bike reviews through the countryside are nice. The R18 is a stunner, but maybe the fishtail aftermarket pipes. Curious what that bike would sound like with those pipes. Finally, I am curious what type of bike tires you think are good in the wet. You commented that the Dunlops on the Heritage were good in dry weather but rubbish in the wet. What tires, especially for heavier cruiser type bikes? Thanks, keep up with the great videos!
Regarding electric vehicle charging: Don't forget, you I should rarely need to visit a cherger when you can just charge up at home and have a full tank, if you will, every morning
Good chat.. enjoyed this.. have subscribed… Have you ever considered testing actual classic bikes side by side with a modern classic? Maybe an old 1960’s BSA A65 against a modern Royal Enfield Interceptor (similar cc, similar power).. I suspect the modern bike would have better brakes but the older bike more character.. could be interesting?
Hi, in my younger days riding Honda cb500/ super dreams, cb200 ect when l started riding in 1976 all naked bikes. I have an singing bmw1250rs se, but l like the modern look style of the 1200 speed twin. You have ridden them on reviews. Could you tell me if you could live with windblast of a naked long term at normal speed national speeds. Please could you give an idea. 😁
They dont do modern classic cars as theres so many regulations regarding collision with pedestrians and crash mitigation with crumplezones etc. There has been attempts such as the nissan figaro but the design is hampered too much by the regs.
@@rover100bunson aye true but they arent mass market. If you only do little numbers you dont need to match all the regs. Ian callum said they are so restrictive its very difficult to even make an interesting car front
we bought a jaguar xf, which is possibly as close to classic as you can get now, and where bmw are headed i really dont know, then again i dont like modern bike designs, which is why i bought a royal enfield gt650, good luck
@@rover100bunson jaguar xf is a lovely bit of design. I bought a super meteor because if you look closely the lines that run through it are very reminiscent of a classic car and there is a bit of vintage jag in there. Bmw design is an absolute mess at the moment. I love the r18 but there cars are not good. Frank stephensons car design channel is worth checking out and he had some things to say on bmws current direction.
You mentioned Vespa’s in the podcast. Try one. I had the Vespa 300, awesome machine, the fastest thing around town and capable of motorway trips too. I would leave big bikes at the lights who would ask me at the next lights “what the hell have you got in that?” They all assumed it was a 50 or a 125 😂
Perhaps not in the UK but modern classics have been available in the North American market. Besides the Mustang, the Challenger and Camaro have both seen much success in this niche. Having said that, it appears that the pony car segment is the only one where retro rules.
Before the Mustang went modern-classic in 2005, Ford tried it first on the Thunderbird in 2001 with limited success. We might consider to include the very popular (in North America) Chrysler PT Cruiser and the less popular but similar Chevrolet HHR, both being styled like modern interpretations of 1930s American cars. Then there's the Chevrolet SSR pick-up and Plymouth Prowler that also somewhat shared the same depression-era design language as the aforementioned. The OG has to be the Volkswagen New Beetle though which sold quite well from its debut in the late 1990s and lasted a good 20-some years in variations of its retro form. It's an interesting topic for your car-centric channel, perhaps.
Questions, 1) dream tour location? 2) dream bike to own long term / dream bike to have for only a day 3) favourite bike accesory you would put on anything you own, cheers from australia
@Darcy. You will find your own space and myself and my son have totaly differant ideas about cars and bikes. Hes the totaly opposed to any bikes or cars that i like but the one bike that we both simply love is the CBX1000 six cyl bike that sounds like a F1 down the straight . Again happy Christmas and see you next year.BTW we live in Ireland and i have 4 sons and we all ride. 👍👍👍I started out back in the 70s with a Honda SS50 5 speed with a disk brake . LOL class and lime green .
I just gound this podcast, i gollow your main channel and disnt realize I somehow missed this. I think you all do great job covering almost everything about wvry bike you ride. I guess for questions, what vime brands do you see succeeding in the next few years and which ones do you see falling behindor failing?
Can you buy cars with standard transmissions over there? Here in the USA there’s not many options. I much prefer a stick shift. I’d like to get a Miata but I’m 6’4” 260 lbs so I’m guessing I won’t fit Had a MG b and loved it
Any thoughts or considerations re some more scramblers or dual sports? Seems you have the perfect roads/lanes for them! Happy Christmas lads… keep up the great work 👍🙏🎄
Question - im doing my bike test shortly, the bike i want is the BMW R18, i think it looks incredible, however its a lot of bike for a first bike, would you recommend i get something smaller to start with and spend a year riding that or just save the money and jump straight in to the bike i want despite its size? Thanks Will
I had a succession of ZZR1100’s until I moved to Spain 12 years ago. Culminating in the D5 model. Such a comfortable bike you could ride it for hours, which I very often did. These days as I look around, the larger bikes have got smaller in terms of frame size leaving a choice between the archetypal BMW tourer or Gold wing🙄😎
Another comment guys sorry, I suspect no modern classic cars because of rules and construction methods. Modern cars are rounded to reduce pedestrian injury. Flip up headlights we outlawed for the same reason. I think it would be difficult if not impossible to make a modern classic car that actually resembles a real classic. I find it hard to differentiate between modern cars they all look the same to me
Re horses, I always slow down and give way, I don't care how long I have to wait ! There are lots of inpatient, ignorant D Heads around, they're often on their phones too! Happy new year chaps, hope 2024 brings everything you wish for, cheers. PS really enjoying this new podcast (subscribed too).
What do you think of the positioning of the rider's pegs on the RE Interceptor? I have suffered a major injury as a result of their positioning; more to come if you wish!
Hello Both, I hope you had a happy and restful Christmas and thanks for putting out another great podcast. I have a question, which RE 650, in your opinion is the best all rounder for the real world between the Interceptor, Continental GT and Super Meteor?
I have a question or topic for discussion: In your opinion, why has belt drive never become more wide spread? Back in the early 1980's I had been riding motorcycles for a few years, and I was already sick and tired of chain maintenance. So when Harley Davidson around that time switched to belt drive I thought: "This is great, now all the rest will follow, and we can get rid of these lousy chains." It's fair to say, I got that one wrong, today 40 years later there are more chains than ever out there, and it's still only HD and now Indian who use belt drive, but why is that? You both own bikes that don't have a chain and you both have experience with belt drive, would you consider switching to a chain drive bike and have to mess with a dirty chain again?
Belts have their uses but they're not suitable for every bike. Chains wear much quicker and they require a lot more maintenance but they are stronger. That is why racing and highly modified street Harleys that generate big horse power are usually converted to chain drive. And it's easy to adapt the final drive ratio with chains. You can't do that with belts unless a manufacturer offers a variety of belt lengths and sprocket sizes, but if they did it would be an expensive modification. Chains can also be repaired in an emergency, belts can't. Belts are also not ideal on dual purpose machines or those with very long suspension travel as they don't like being run at any other than optimum tension and alignment. A chain can take a moment of lashing and slack running when the suspension undergoes negative load without jumping teeth and becoming damaged or breaking. Belts don't cope with this so well. And unless the final drive is fully enclosed, a stone getting between the belt and the sprocket could prove disastrous. I own a Harley and I agree the belt drive is a joy. Smooth, clean, minimal power loss and virtually maintenance free - though expensive to replace. More bikes could use them, especially cruisers, relaxed retros, small capacity bikes and commuter machines. But they're unlikely ever to be a universal drive system that will work in all applications, whereas chains, for all their disadvantages, do. So it's probably down to production economics that few other manufacturers, who generally make a wider range of bikes than Harley do, tend to favour them. But yes, where belts are suitable, they can have great advantages. And once you've experienced owning a belt driven bike it's hard to go back to the rigmarole of chain maintenance.
@@JimDoar-c2t I agree that belt drive is not ideal for all types of bikes, especially bikes that are used offroad or on gravel roads. There are just so many bikes on the market that would simply be more user friendly with a clean, maintenance free belt drive instead of a dirty chain, but the manufacturers refuse to offer it as an option.
@@olethorhermansen5696I agree. the only other make I can think of that offers belt drive is BMW with their F series parallel twins. I think it's purely down to supply and economics. A multitude of chains and sprockets are available off the shelf from outside suppliers. Belts are more an in-house operation, and if you're not already geared up to produce them (as Harley are) it must be easier to just use chain drive. On the right sort of bike though, I would pay extra for the option of belt drive.
Your observations about the impracticality of switching to electric vehicles was very interesting. If makes you wonder about the intelligence or even the sanity of the politicians pursuing this fantasy. The O'l Man's point about how many vehicles pass through a fuel station in five minutes is well made. But given that it takes an average of an hour an a half to charge each one, rather than count the number of vehicles that pass through the pumps of a motorway service station in a five minute period, count how many go through over the course of one and a half hours. Then imagine every single one of these being plugged in to a charging point simultaneously on the same site perpetually. That would be the number of charging points that service station would have to provide and the number of vehicles that would be permanently parked up on site being charged. The charging area would stretch to the horizon. It's utter madness. And while on the face of it a battery exchange scheme seems a better solution, it would mean that for every electric vehicle manufactured, two batteries would have to be produced, doubling the environmental impact of building the vehicles. And you'd still need the same number of on-site charging points as you would if the batteries were being recharged in the vehicles, so no benefit. It really is astonishing (and worrying) that we are being lead by people incapable of seeing this.
I've worked it out. Figures for through traffic at service stations is hard to come by because apparently fuel companies don't like to publish them. But motoring organisations estimate that one fuel pump can refill 12 vehicles per hour on average. They also estimate that the average fuel station has between 12 and 18 pumps. So let's split the difference and say 15. Therefore, each pump will be servicing 18 cars every one and a half hours. Multiple that by 15 and there'd be 270 cars being charged on average at every fuel station in the country at all times during business hours. At large motorway service stations it could be several times that amount. Of course, not every pump is in use at all times. There are slack periods. But even if we are conservative and reduce that flow to one tenth, allowing for periods of inactivity, it would still mean that every supermarket fuel station would need parking and charging points for nearly 30 cars, and potentially several times that number to cater for peak periods. Where are they going to put them? Millions of households will never be able to charge their cars at home. They will rely on service stations and public charging points. Imagine the queues stretching down the road at your local Tesco as vehicles wait to be charged. Every town would need a retail park-sized recharging park. Most would need several. The extra development required would be staggering. And you can't get round it by just siting a charging point at every existing parking space because what would happen to people who just wish to park for a short period but not to charge? Where would they park when car parks are full of vehicles being charged? The only answer would be to ban private vehicle ownership and enforce the use of public transport. Watch this space..
Enjoying your Dad N Darcy channel , question for you, since the Ol Man is an avid R18 owner how come he hasn't tested the rest of the R18 range ? On the test ride side, now you have access to Indian Motorcycles please can you review the FTR ?
😆Much enjoyed some good fun stuff there guys and animals why on earth would anyone do that ? I would say classic style is more for me although I did quite like the Honda 650 in that colour that you have , I do like the idea of riding the Street Triple but the looks don't really do it for me and probably to tall anyway 😉 . Have you seen any new pic's of the new Italjet scooter in the christmas MCN apparently a 500cc in the pipeline it looks a good bit of fun to zip around on , not sure on a practical level tho .Look forward to more 👌👍
If you could design your perfect bike, engine, frame/fork and look what would it be ? Also what band would you listen to whilst riding it ? Thanks for all your effort on your channel 😎🙏
That Triumph looking like a wasp won't help you, Darcy...I've seen previous videos when you are filming (a bike you actually like) and a real wasp tries to share the screen with you... ...you seem keen to get out of shot fairly sharpish 😂
You've both (especially the old man) complained of modern motorcycles having fenders that are too short leaving a muddy mess on the engine/radiator. I did a quick search for fender extensions and found a few online, but have either of you done a more extensive search for fender skirts or extensions?
@@enricohagn You're absolutely right! But since the manufacturers aren't doing this on stock bikes, I was jusr wondering what anyone was doing to help themselves with this problem.
#questions ; could we have a short list from 'the old man' of bikes he'd prefer a donkey to? oppositely, a list of bikes you wish you could abandon cars for? I had two Guzzi's in the past, an 850t and a V50 Monza and loved them to bits. In comparison, the 750 Breva I bought was hugely disappointing- it was as if they'd 'honda-fied' it somehow.😖
On modern classic cars, of course they exist. In 1997 Volkswagen introduced the New Beetle, a Golf that was rebodied to make it look similar to the original "people's car" designed by Ferdinand Porsche in the mid-1930s. Then there was the fifth generation Ford Mustang introduced in 2005 which was loosely reminiscent of the first generation 1967-68 iteration, the sixth generation in 2015 styled after the 1969-70 iteration, and the seventh generation, due in 2024, which is stylistically a sleeker evolution of the current model. Ford USA also produced a modern version of the original (first generation) 2-seat 1955-57 Thunderbird. Technically known as the eleventh generation Thunderbird, it was not well received and only lasted from 2002-2005. Furthermore, the new sixth generation Ford Bronco SUV, introduced in 2021, is (despite the weird LED headlights) stylistically based on the first generation 1966-77 Bronco. The introduction of the fifth generation Mustang led rivals GM and Chrysler to rush to bring out modern classic versions of their late-sixties pony cars too. Hence in 2008, Chevrolet released a fifth generation Camaro styled after the first generation 1967-69 model (specifically the 1969 facelift). That car was previewed as "Bumblebee" in the 2007 movie _Transformers._ In 2016 the current sixth generation came out, which is more of the same but sleeker. Also in 2008, Chrysler brought out the third generation of the Dodge Challenger based on the original 1970-74 model and as of this writing it is still in production. No doubt they would have brought back it's sister pony car, the Plymouth Barracuda, had they not discontinued the marque in 2001. This latter was the same year that they introduced the Chrysler PT Cruiser which had styling vaguely reminiscent of the generic design language current in the mid-late 1930s. It may have been intended as a downmarket competitor to the New Beetle and was originally supposed to have been badged as a Plymouth. Of course, let's not forget the ultimate modern classic, namely the MINI Hatch. In 2000, BMW finally got fed up with throwing good money after bad into the bottomless pit that was Rover Group and "sold" it to management for a tenner. All they kept was the Mini brand name. The Mini had started life as a BMC product in 1959, originally badged as the Morris Mini-Minor or alternatively as the Austin 850. Over the years it was sold under a bunch of other names including Riley Elf and Wolseley Hornet but became it's own marque in 1969 and remained in production until 2000 through seven iterations (Mks I-VII) and dozens of variants. No sooner had Rover's Longbridge production line been shuttered than BMW opened their Cowley factory and started knocking out their modern classic version later the same year. The third generation appeared in 2013 and is still in production. BMW also produced the Z3 from 1995-2002 which was styled after the 503 (1955-59) and the much rarer Z8 (1998-2003) based on the 507 (1956-60). Also in Germany, there was the spectacular SLS AMG built by Mercedes-Benz (2010-15) as a modern recreation of the gullwing 300 SL Coupe (1954-57) whilst south of the Alps, in 2007 Fiat came out with the 500 which reprised the styling of the Nuova 500 launched in 1957. And those are just the ones off the top of my head, there are certainly others. BTW, as for the Mustang being available with a 2.3 litre EcoBoost 4-cylinder engine: the Mustang was originally made available with a four banger with the introduction of the second generation in 1974. That particular iteration was little more than a rebodied Pinto, which was available with a selection of three inline fours and a V-6; the Mustang got the 2.3 litre four pot. That engine remained the base model engine in the third generation Mustang also, lasting all the way through 1993. The current turbo 4 was introduced in 2015 with the sixth generation. What's surprising given ever tightening governmental emissions restrictions worldwide, is that the car is still available with huge thumping V-8s. Merry Christmas and a Happy 2024 guys.
It would be virtually impossible to make modern classic cars, because safety standards wouldn't allow them to look traditional. Look at a modern Mini and an original version to see how much protection alters the shape of a car. Talking of dodgy insurance, I was rear ended on the bike sitting at a red light. I saw a car racing up in the mirrors and braced for impact. It shunted me several yards but I stayed upright, and had severe whiplash for the next few weeks. The guy got out smelling like a brewery, and I reported the accident to the police. Next time I came to insure, the premium had gone up. I asked why and they said you've had a claim against you. Turns out the insurers had put it down as a knock-for-knock case! If the most one-sided incident imaginable can be attributed to mutual blame, it's clear insurers don't care about details like culpability.
Back in the day i was behind a bus he indecated right so i went down the left hand side of him. Then he turned left and i jumped off the bike and it wa scrushed by the bus.No when i went to my local police station they when to Ribble bus and asked for the drivers details . It turned that he wa called Khan now half of the people in Preston are called Khan and he siad that it wasntb him lol . The police man dealing with it siad forget it son they share driving licenses .So no chance of catching Mr Khan . My by beloved DT125 crushed LOL
Have you seen the swm 1200 harley look a like from Italy but built in China I think I am an old mod from the early 70s had a few scooters loved them I now have an interceptor a guzzi v7 stone se and benelli 502c and enjoy them roll on March to start riding again
I did ask a question last time, about the Old mans plans for Spain, which he kindly answered. Question this time, If you were invited to a bike launch that you did not like the style/target market of, would you still go?
I have been watching you guys for a while now and you are always going to get fools making comments to get a reaction. Just keep up the good work . I love your streams and look forwards to next year . I also think that some people cant stream and dont know how to stream so dont take any notice . Dont ever mention Vespas lol aahhhhh no lol. The Hornet is a great bike in the 1000cc model .
I think the panagale is pretty sporty. There's a few pretty tasty BMWs over 1000Cc too. We all know 750 is the correct number of ccs. Love the content. Ditch the Harley and get the Guzzi. I totally agree with Dad's connect about electric over priced cars. There's no one talking about the about of diesel used to extract all the toxic elements in Africa to produce the batteries. Hydrogen is the future if we're going to keep importing masses of Chinese crap to UK and shipping it by road. How many miles do you think an artic will go on a battery?
There is another UA-camr in England that addressed the same issue just a few days ago regarding haters accusing him of some nefarious conduct with advertisers or accessory companies.
It seems some people are deeply cynical and darkly pessimistic and small-minded, etc., as a rule.
It seems that there’s always one turd in the punch bowl
Electric cars are far more damaging to the environment. To make a battery requires 12 tons of rock for lithium, 5 tons of cobalt minerals, 3 tons of mineral for nickel and 12 tons of copper ore. Move 250 tons of soil to obtain 12kg of lithium, 30 pounds of nickel, 22kg of manganese, 15 pounds of cobalt, 200kg of aluminum, steel and plastic. All this to make a “zero emissions” car.
Why can’t the government see this ?
@@user-rf9me7xm1w they have been brainwashed or they have a financial interest in EVs
Sorry but this is wrong. Studies have shown that it takes about on year for electric cars to save in the CO2 that is spent during production. While IC cars keep producing CO2 their whole life. Also IC also use a lot of the resources you mention, pluss allot of resources is spent producing and refining the fuel.
Incorrect. Yes electric vehicles aren't perfect but its far from as simple as you make it sound, LCA's show they're better then ICE over life. But the other important fact you neglected to mention was health, no tailpipe emissions in cities is much better for all of our health and reduces the impact on the health service. Now, despite all of this I'm a petrol head, always been into cars and drive an M140i a similar car to Darcy, im getting into biking to enable me to enjoy the ICE a little longer whilst reducing my emissions. What I'm not going to do is blindly state that EV's are worse than ICE just because it suits my agenda.
@@emilrydstrm3944I think you will find it’s not time but milage, and an average EV needs to go between 70,000 to 90,000 miles before it has any green return. By then the battery will be shot anyway. Smart people are not fooled by the green credentials of EV’s, you just have to think about it for a minute or two and get to the same conclusion.
But, if you like EV’s go ahead just don’t pretend they are good for the planet, just don’t force us to come along with you.
I love the content you two come up with. The dialogue is really interesting, and I seriously find it quite difficult to disagree with most of what either of you have to say either. It just makes good sense and is well thought out. The dad and son dynamic just makes it quite unique and entertaining.
Here's a question - you guys seem to agree on most things (bike related) so what is the biggest source of disagrement bikewise (if any!). Loving your podcasts, great addition to your main channel - keep up the good work fellas.
I started riding motorcycles in 1964 and have some scars that old lol
My grandfather used to say “ we get too soon old and too late smart “
“Suicide shifter” is a misnomer. In the days of the hand shifter and foot clutch it was considered normal. In the late ‘50s to mid ‘60s the chopper guys thought it was cool to cut off the giant ugly shift lever and just have a little stub coming off the transmission itself. By constantly reaching down under your butt you looked like a jockey slapping a horse. That became known as a jockey shift.
They also thought that a front brake was ugly and dangerous so those went in the bin. They wanted the clutch to work like a car clutch so they rigged it backwards. Then they put a hefty spring on it so it would be engaged whenever your foot was off of the pedal.
So, you’re riding in San Francisco on a steep hill with a stoplight at the top. You need your right foot on the brake pedal to keep from rolling backwards. You need your left foot on the clutch pedal to keep from rolling through the intersection. And you need a third foot to hold the bike up!😮 That setup got the name suicide clutch for a good reason.
One last historical aside. Harley foot clutches engaged by stepping down on the front portion of the pedal. Indians were the opposite! Both were rigged to stay where you put them. You could set the drag (friction zone) to crawl at 1 mph at idle and it would do it all day.
You guys are great. Thanks for sticking with it. You helped me make a bike decision recently. There would be a market for reproduction MGs, Triumphs, etc., here in the US. I had a small incident when I was 16. Scared the heck out of me. I ended up on the ground under a car. Low speed at an intersection with sand on the road.
Many thanks 😊
Great content guys and love your easy going conversation. My son (27) and I are both bikers and have similar conversations over facetime . Bike chat for bikers - brilliant! I too cannot understand Triumph's insurance situation. When my son passed his bike test at age 24 non of the dealerships would allow him to test ride any of thier bikes. I own two Triumphs (a T120 and a Tiger Sport 1050) and went in with him to our local dealership, explaining that he was in the market for a new Triumph, even wanting thier in-house finance package. They absolutely would not let him test ride a bike. In the end he went to a well known UK wide second hand bike seller, had a test ride on a Street Scrambler without any issues and bought it from them on the basis of how supportive they were. Triumph have now lost two potential buyers of new bikes.
I live in the countryside not too far from the Ol man. And it amazes me some of the people I come across on the roads nearby. Most common is people crossing onto the wrong side of the road on blind corners on the country roads. Happens way too often, any wonder how I haven't seen an accident on one of them yet. Don't even get me started on the speed some people do. My dad has always told me "Drive to the conditions of the road". Weather that means going faster or slower than the speed limit.
Great advice from your dad 👍🏼 💯 how we think 👍🏼
Modern Classic Cars!!! What a very interesting idea, you are 100% correct, there is no such category of car and no manufacturer seems to be even looking in this direction. Now you have really set me thinking, why is this not a thing?
Thankfully, there is such a category - they are called restomods but you need a donor vehicle to start with. Jaguar Land Rover and Porsche were the first to cotton on to this market gap.
Here’s a good topic characters of bikes. My son’s bike is a 2016 HD sportster with ape bars and vane and Hines pipes. The bike looks awesome and has that EVO charm and sound. My bike is 2014 HD road king with a lot of upgrades that make it sound awesome with a high end sound system. Nothing sweeter than rolling down the back roads with a bike with loads of character and blasting your favorite music! That’s real Therapy! I love how you both do videos! Keep up the good work!
Many thanks, great to hear 👍🏼
Funny thing about insurance. One of my cheapest bikes to insure was a ZX-14. The insurance company claimed only old people would purchase it, so the fact that it would do damn near 190mph and the quarter mile in about 10 seconds flat was no big consideration in their calculations.
That’s crazy! They have no logic do they haha
Regarding your praise of certain Chinese bikes - might i humbly suggest you do a real world test a 3 or 4 year old Chinese bike - if you can find one?
And that's a fair point, but also in fairness to the guys you can only make comments on the bike you have at the time, which a lot of the chinese ones they have tested are new and in light of that they can only review it on that basis.
Fair point, 3 or 4 years ago you wouldn't have touched one but quality is definitely improving. Most of the European manufacturers already have manufacturing agreements in China.
Currently ride a Lexmoto ZSX-R 125 (Chinese) and it’s 3 1/2 years old. Passed its MOT with no issues or advisories and has currently ridden over 10k miles in all weathers in the UK.
Great bike with no issues, they are not all bad.
I absolutely agree.
I bought a Chinese 125 and it fell apart,even with 40 years of experience of motorcycle ownership.The only parts that didn't wear out were the engine,wheels and frame,there was no lubrication or primer anywhere.
Really enjoying the podcast. The father son dynamics really makes your dialogue different from other podcasts.
Great to hear. Thank you 😊
Great podcast video and shout out for Moore Speed Racing. Thank you.
Happy Holidays to you both from Idaho!
Great content and I’m looking forward to another year following your content!
Eric - 2022 T100 Gold Line
Happy holidays 👍🏼
That roundabout incident happened to me twice, I can tell you it would never happen again. I teach everyone about not looking before pulling off lol
Absolutely agree with the antiquated system that insurers use to ‘qualify’ power to determine policy pricing. It’s been so unfair since I was a teenager (many years ago!). Will it ever change? Probably not in my lifetime. Great podcast, with well rounded views on biking matters from real bikers. Well done guys. Happy (safe) biking New Year.👍👍🤘
Many thanks and a Happy New Year 👍🏼
A very interesting chat which, I’m sure, everyone can relate to. The tangents were as interesting as the intended context. Looking forward to the coming reviews, I’ll sub.
Awesome great to hear 👍🏼
Modern classic cars, E type reborn, Morgan and Caterham 7
Love the new podcast format fellas - well done. Audio sounds good. Relaxed and improvised set up - no tripod? Oh, here's a fruit bowl 🤔😔It's good to hear that you're expanding your horizons and checking out bikes which are away from your usual bread and butter. Smart move. It'll be interesting to see what the viewing figures are like for some types of bike. But don't get disheartened if there aren't as many channel hits for some generas.
Those who criticise for not understanding how you'd provide a non paid, biased review can be safely ignored. Some keyboard warriors get out of bed on the wrong side and are just in the mood to pick a fight, no matter how irrelevant or absurd.
Many thanks 😊
Just found this channel and subscribed. My dad is a huge part of my life and the reason i began riding at all. He currently has his bought new never getting rid of 1991 Honda CBR600 f2. I have a Triumph street triple RS 765. No questions, but wanted to say looking forward to seeing more content.
Welcome aboard 👍🏼 have you watched our main channel Mr Darcy and the Ol' Man
@@DarcyOlManExtra nope but I'll track it down! I enjoyed watching this video
Merry Xmas to both of you lads 🎉
Keep up your great work by providing great bike reviews for Bikers by Bikers 👍
Merry xmas 🤶
I have a 22 1200 speed twin gearbox buttery smooth looks good lots of power to overtake safety I'll have to look for your videos on what you thought of the speed twin 1200 love your videos
Happy Christmas you two. Enjoyed your channel this year. Think the trouble with modern bikes is blandness, generally. Euro regs don’t help but there’s next to nothing on the market today that even remotely interests me. Of course the other big issue is our Government screwing motorists to death, tax, petrol price, hidden speed cameras, ULEZ etc etc. It’s not easy to just have a relaxing ride out.Anyway, it is what it is.
Happy Christmas 🤶
I find myself rather bored with the state of cruisers and retros these days. It seems like only Harley Davidson and Royal Enfield are active in the market segment. BSA feels like they're just copying RE, and Norton feels like they're just copying Triumph and marking it up 20%.
It seems like you need to love naked and supersport to find anything interesting on today's field.
I've got some questions: Is Dad/Ol' Man still moving to Spain? Do you ever miss the Heritage or were you over it? Over 1 million views with the Sportster, maybe a Sportster project bike. Have any of your other videos reached 1 million views? Maybe a visit to HQ or factory of Goldtop, Watsonian, Triumph, BSA if possible. In any event, the bike reviews through the countryside are nice. The R18 is a stunner, but maybe the fishtail aftermarket pipes. Curious what that bike would sound like with those pipes. Finally, I am curious what type of bike tires you think are good in the wet. You commented that the Dunlops on the Heritage were good in dry weather but rubbish in the wet. What tires, especially for heavier cruiser type bikes? Thanks, keep up with the great videos!
Regarding electric vehicle charging: Don't forget, you I should rarely need to visit a cherger when you can just charge up at home and have a full tank, if you will, every morning
Good stuff chaps! Merry Christmas!
Merry xmas 🤶
Good chat.. enjoyed this.. have subscribed…
Have you ever considered testing actual classic bikes side by side with a modern classic? Maybe an old 1960’s BSA A65 against a modern Royal Enfield Interceptor (similar cc, similar power).. I suspect the modern bike would have better brakes but the older bike more character.. could be interesting?
We absolutely have, all we need to do is find a dealer of classic bikes that can insure us. As our own insurance won’t cover it
Please try to get a Sport Chief, I'd like to see what you think of them 👍
Very keen to get on one of those!
That Jack Russell is gorgeous.
Thank you, she is a Parson Russell 🐶 they have longer legs 👍🏼
Piaggio already done a Wasp bike in 1946. Vespa-> which is Wasp translated from Italian. Claiming that its design looks like wasp from Vespa top view.
Regarding not reviewing Scooters, you guys would be shocked if you get your hands on a yamaha TMAX 560, it's a rocket ship 😂
Hi, in my younger days riding Honda cb500/ super dreams, cb200 ect when l started riding in 1976 all naked bikes. I have an singing bmw1250rs se, but l like the modern look style of the 1200 speed twin. You have ridden them on reviews. Could you tell me if you could live with windblast of a naked long term at normal speed national speeds. Please could you give an idea. 😁
Im ok with the naked bikes at the speed limits but I’m not keen on long haul rides tbh so it’s not an issue for short durations
They dont do modern classic cars as theres so many regulations regarding collision with pedestrians and crash mitigation with crumplezones etc. There has been attempts such as the nissan figaro but the design is hampered too much by the regs.
except morgan, mr honda said in the future there will be just a few car manufacturers left, and morgan
@@rover100bunson aye true but they arent mass market. If you only do little numbers you dont need to match all the regs. Ian callum said they are so restrictive its very difficult to even make an interesting car front
we bought a jaguar xf, which is possibly as close to classic as you can get now, and where bmw are headed i really dont know, then again i dont like modern bike designs, which is why i bought a royal enfield gt650, good luck
@@rover100bunson jaguar xf is a lovely bit of design. I bought a super meteor because if you look closely the lines that run through it are very reminiscent of a classic car and there is a bit of vintage jag in there. Bmw design is an absolute mess at the moment. I love the r18 but there cars are not good. Frank stephensons car design channel is worth checking out and he had some things to say on bmws current direction.
What do you prefer, carburettor or EFI?
You mentioned Vespa’s in the podcast. Try one. I had the Vespa 300, awesome machine, the fastest thing around town and capable of motorway trips too. I would leave big bikes at the lights who would ask me at the next lights “what the hell have you got in that?” They all assumed it was a 50 or a 125 😂
That’s so funny 😂
My first bike was a black and red DT50. Fond memories.
Perhaps not in the UK but modern classics have been available in the North American market. Besides the Mustang, the Challenger and Camaro have both seen much success in this niche. Having said that, it appears that the pony car segment is the only one where retro rules.
We do get the mustang over here and that does sell well tbf. The Ol’man even had one a few years ago
Before the Mustang went modern-classic in 2005, Ford tried it first on the Thunderbird in 2001 with limited success. We might consider to include the very popular (in North America) Chrysler PT Cruiser and the less popular but similar Chevrolet HHR, both being styled like modern interpretations of 1930s American cars. Then there's the Chevrolet SSR pick-up and Plymouth Prowler that also somewhat shared the same depression-era design language as the aforementioned. The OG has to be the Volkswagen New Beetle though which sold quite well from its debut in the late 1990s and lasted a good 20-some years in variations of its retro form.
It's an interesting topic for your car-centric channel, perhaps.
Questions, 1) dream tour location? 2) dream bike to own long term / dream bike to have for only a day 3) favourite bike accesory you would put on anything you own, cheers from australia
Some great questions for the next podcast 👍🏼
@Darcy.
You will find your own space and myself and my son have totaly differant ideas about cars and bikes. Hes the totaly opposed to any bikes or cars that i like but the one bike that we both simply love is the CBX1000 six cyl bike that sounds like a F1 down the straight . Again happy Christmas and see you next year.BTW we live in Ireland and i have 4 sons and we all ride. 👍👍👍I started out back in the 70s with a Honda SS50 5 speed with a disk brake . LOL class and lime green .
Great to hear. Happy Christmas 🤶
I just gound this podcast, i gollow your main channel and disnt realize I somehow missed this. I think you all do great job covering almost everything about wvry bike you ride. I guess for questions, what vime brands do you see succeeding in the next few years and which ones do you see falling behindor failing?
Can you buy cars with standard transmissions over there? Here in the USA there’s not many options. I much prefer a stick shift.
I’d like to get a Miata but I’m 6’4” 260 lbs so I’m guessing I won’t fit
Had a MG b and loved it
You still can but I guess less than there used to be 👍🏼
Any thoughts or considerations re some more scramblers or dual sports? Seems you have the perfect roads/lanes for them! Happy Christmas lads… keep up the great work 👍🙏🎄
Thank you and Happy xmas 🎄
Darcy, what’s wrong with scooters?😂😂😂. LOL, personally I do love Vespa’s and would love to own one at some point. Agree with the Hornet though.
@@PeterHolland-mu7yn i did a short tour on a Vespa 300 Super not that long ago, wonderful experience, just need to make some room in the garage.
Question - im doing my bike test shortly, the bike i want is the BMW R18, i think it looks incredible, however its a lot of bike for a first bike, would you recommend i get something smaller to start with and spend a year riding that or just save the money and jump straight in to the bike i want despite its size? Thanks Will
I had a succession of ZZR1100’s until I moved to Spain 12 years ago. Culminating in the D5 model. Such a comfortable bike you could ride it for hours, which I very often did. These days as I look around, the larger bikes have got smaller in terms of frame size leaving a choice between the archetypal BMW tourer or Gold wing🙄😎
Another great podcast 👍🏼 love the cute dog 🐶
Thank you 😊
Another comment guys sorry, I suspect no modern classic cars because of rules and construction methods. Modern cars are rounded to reduce pedestrian injury. Flip up headlights we outlawed for the same reason. I think it would be difficult if not impossible to make a modern classic car that actually resembles a real classic. I find it hard to differentiate between modern cars they all look the same to me
Re horses, I always slow down and give way, I don't care how long I have to wait ! There are lots of inpatient, ignorant D Heads around, they're often on their phones too! Happy new year chaps, hope 2024 brings everything you wish for, cheers. PS really enjoying this new podcast (subscribed too).
Many thanks 😊 and a Happy New Year 👍🏼
What do you think of the positioning of the rider's pegs on the RE Interceptor? I have suffered a major injury as a result of their positioning; more to come if you wish!
They are perhaps set back a little too far for ultimate comfort. Hope you are recovering from your injury 👍🏼
Looking forward to a RE replica Ford Anglia!! Happy Christmas and new year to you both.
And to you also 👍🏼
Hello Both, I hope you had a happy and restful Christmas and thanks for putting out another great podcast. I have a question, which RE 650, in your opinion is the best all rounder for the real world between the Interceptor, Continental GT and Super Meteor?
Thanks for a year fill of education and entertainment.
Thanks for watching!
What would be a better overall bike for 300-400 miles trips. Indian scout, Indian scout rogue or the rebel 1100
I have a question or topic for discussion: In your opinion, why has belt drive never become more wide spread? Back in the early 1980's I had been riding motorcycles for a few years, and I was already sick and tired of chain maintenance. So when Harley Davidson around that time switched to belt drive I thought: "This is great, now all the rest will follow, and we can get rid of these lousy chains." It's fair to say, I got that one wrong, today 40 years later there are more chains than ever out there, and it's still only HD and now Indian who use belt drive, but why is that? You both own bikes that don't have a chain and you both have experience with belt drive, would you consider switching to a chain drive bike and have to mess with a dirty chain again?
Belts have their uses but they're not suitable for every bike. Chains wear much quicker and they require a lot more maintenance but they are stronger. That is why racing and highly modified street Harleys that generate big horse power are usually converted to chain drive. And it's easy to adapt the final drive ratio with chains. You can't do that with belts unless a manufacturer offers a variety of belt lengths and sprocket sizes, but if they did it would be an expensive modification. Chains can also be repaired in an emergency, belts can't.
Belts are also not ideal on dual purpose machines or those with very long suspension travel as they don't like being run at any other than optimum tension and alignment. A chain can take a moment of lashing and slack running when the suspension undergoes negative load without jumping teeth and becoming damaged or breaking. Belts don't cope with this so well. And unless the final drive is fully enclosed, a stone getting between the belt and the sprocket could prove disastrous.
I own a Harley and I agree the belt drive is a joy. Smooth, clean, minimal power loss and virtually maintenance free - though expensive to replace. More bikes could use them, especially cruisers, relaxed retros, small capacity bikes and commuter machines. But they're unlikely ever to be a universal drive system that will work in all applications, whereas chains, for all their disadvantages, do. So it's probably down to production economics that few other manufacturers, who generally make a wider range of bikes than Harley do, tend to favour them. But yes, where belts are suitable, they can have great advantages. And once you've experienced owning a belt driven bike it's hard to go back to the rigmarole of chain maintenance.
@@JimDoar-c2t I agree that belt drive is not ideal for all types of bikes, especially bikes that are used offroad or on gravel roads. There are just so many bikes on the market that would simply be more user friendly with a clean, maintenance free belt drive instead of a dirty chain, but the manufacturers refuse to offer it as an option.
@@olethorhermansen5696I agree. the only other make I can think of that offers belt drive is BMW with their F series parallel twins. I think it's purely down to supply and economics. A multitude of chains and sprockets are available off the shelf from outside suppliers. Belts are more an in-house operation, and if you're not already geared up to produce them (as Harley are) it must be easier to just use chain drive.
On the right sort of bike though, I would pay extra for the option of belt drive.
Another question: what turntable for those LPs over Darcy’s head??
Your observations about the impracticality of switching to electric vehicles was very interesting. If makes you wonder about the intelligence or even the sanity of the politicians pursuing this fantasy.
The O'l Man's point about how many vehicles pass through a fuel station in five minutes is well made. But given that it takes an average of an hour an a half to charge each one, rather than count the number of vehicles that pass through the pumps of a motorway service station in a five minute period, count how many go through over the course of one and a half hours. Then imagine every single one of these being plugged in to a charging point simultaneously on the same site perpetually. That would be the number of charging points that service station would have to provide and the number of vehicles that would be permanently parked up on site being charged. The charging area would stretch to the horizon. It's utter madness.
And while on the face of it a battery exchange scheme seems a better solution, it would mean that for every electric vehicle manufactured, two batteries would have to be produced, doubling the environmental impact of building the vehicles. And you'd still need the same number of on-site charging points as you would if the batteries were being recharged in the vehicles, so no benefit. It really is astonishing (and worrying) that we are being lead by people incapable of seeing this.
I've worked it out. Figures for through traffic at service stations is hard to come by because apparently fuel companies don't like to publish them. But motoring organisations estimate that one fuel pump can refill 12 vehicles per hour on average. They also estimate that the average fuel station has between 12 and 18 pumps. So let's split the difference and say 15. Therefore, each pump will be servicing 18 cars every one and a half hours. Multiple that by 15 and there'd be 270 cars being charged on average at every fuel station in the country at all times during business hours. At large motorway service stations it could be several times that amount.
Of course, not every pump is in use at all times. There are slack periods. But even if we are conservative and reduce that flow to one tenth, allowing for periods of inactivity, it would still mean that every supermarket fuel station would need parking and charging points for nearly 30 cars, and potentially several times that number to cater for peak periods. Where are they going to put them? Millions of households will never be able to charge their cars at home. They will rely on service stations and public charging points. Imagine the queues stretching down the road at your local Tesco as vehicles wait to be charged. Every town would need a retail park-sized recharging park. Most would need several. The extra development required would be staggering. And you can't get round it by just siting a charging point at every existing parking space because what would happen to people who just wish to park for a short period but not to charge? Where would they park when car parks are full of vehicles being charged?
The only answer would be to ban private vehicle ownership and enforce the use of public transport. Watch this space..
Enjoying your Dad N Darcy channel , question for you, since the Ol Man is an avid R18 owner how come he hasn't tested the rest of the R18 range ? On the test ride side, now you have access to Indian Motorcycles please can you review the FTR ?
Merry Christmas and what is the best road you have ridden in the uk, mase.
Merry xmas 🎄
😆Much enjoyed some good fun stuff there guys and animals why on earth would anyone do that ? I would say classic style is more for me although I did quite like the Honda 650 in that colour that you have , I do like the idea of riding the Street Triple but the looks don't really do it for me and probably to tall anyway 😉 . Have you seen any new pic's of the new Italjet scooter in the christmas MCN apparently a 500cc in the pipeline it looks a good bit of fun to zip around on , not sure on a practical level tho .Look forward to more 👌👍
Thanks 😊
If you could design your perfect bike, engine, frame/fork and look what would it be ? Also what band would you listen to whilst riding it ? Thanks for all your effort on your channel 😎🙏
Thanks 😊 and some great questions 👍🏼
Merry Christmas and happy new year guys
Merry xmas & a Happy New Year 👍🏼
was going to ask you to review the Honda Hornet, a bike im interested in. but the old mans already given his opinion 😆
My son would love a Capri modern classic .
Any news on your new home in Spain?
Oh yeah and Sinnis are British based in Brighton but the bikes are built in China to Sinnis's design brief and requirements 👍🏻
That Triumph looking like a wasp won't help you, Darcy...I've seen previous videos when you are filming (a bike you actually like) and a real wasp tries to share the screen with you...
...you seem keen to get out of shot fairly sharpish 😂
Yes I’ve got a real phobia of wasps 😂
Morgan Cars are modern classics.
You've both (especially the old man) complained of modern motorcycles having fenders that are too short leaving a muddy mess on the engine/radiator. I did a quick search for fender extensions and found a few online, but have either of you done a more extensive search for fender skirts or extensions?
The question is:
Why we should *need* to purchase necessary add ones after spending 15k to 20k quid, though?
We are suggesting the bikes should have longer fenders when new as people have paid alot for their new bikes already 👍🏼
@@enricohagn 💯
@@DarcyOlManExtra d'accord 🤝
@@enricohagn You're absolutely right! But since the manufacturers aren't doing this on stock bikes, I was jusr wondering what anyone was doing to help themselves with this problem.
#questions ; could we have a short list from 'the old man' of bikes he'd prefer a donkey to? oppositely, a list of bikes you wish you could abandon cars for?
I had two Guzzi's in the past, an 850t and a V50 Monza and loved them to bits. In comparison, the 750 Breva I bought was hugely disappointing- it was as if they'd 'honda-fied' it somehow.😖
On modern classic cars, of course they exist. In 1997 Volkswagen introduced the New Beetle, a Golf that was rebodied to make it look similar to the original "people's car" designed by Ferdinand Porsche in the mid-1930s. Then there was the fifth generation Ford Mustang introduced in 2005 which was loosely reminiscent of the first generation 1967-68 iteration, the sixth generation in 2015 styled after the 1969-70 iteration, and the seventh generation, due in 2024, which is stylistically a sleeker evolution of the current model.
Ford USA also produced a modern version of the original (first generation) 2-seat 1955-57 Thunderbird. Technically known as the eleventh generation Thunderbird, it was not well received and only lasted from 2002-2005. Furthermore, the new sixth generation Ford Bronco SUV, introduced in 2021, is (despite the weird LED headlights) stylistically based on the first generation 1966-77 Bronco.
The introduction of the fifth generation Mustang led rivals GM and Chrysler to rush to bring out modern classic versions of their late-sixties pony cars too. Hence in 2008, Chevrolet released a fifth generation Camaro styled after the first generation 1967-69 model (specifically the 1969 facelift). That car was previewed as "Bumblebee" in the 2007 movie _Transformers._ In 2016 the current sixth generation came out, which is more of the same but sleeker.
Also in 2008, Chrysler brought out the third generation of the Dodge Challenger based on the original 1970-74 model and as of this writing it is still in production. No doubt they would have brought back it's sister pony car, the Plymouth Barracuda, had they not discontinued the marque in 2001. This latter was the same year that they introduced the Chrysler PT Cruiser which had styling vaguely reminiscent of the generic design language current in the mid-late 1930s. It may have been intended as a downmarket competitor to the New Beetle and was originally supposed to have been badged as a Plymouth.
Of course, let's not forget the ultimate modern classic, namely the MINI Hatch. In 2000, BMW finally got fed up with throwing good money after bad into the bottomless pit that was Rover Group and "sold" it to management for a tenner. All they kept was the Mini brand name. The Mini had started life as a BMC product in 1959, originally badged as the Morris Mini-Minor or alternatively as the Austin 850. Over the years it was sold under a bunch of other names including Riley Elf and Wolseley Hornet but became it's own marque in 1969 and remained in production until 2000 through seven iterations (Mks I-VII) and dozens of variants. No sooner had Rover's Longbridge production line been shuttered than BMW opened their Cowley factory and started knocking out their modern classic version later the same year. The third generation appeared in 2013 and is still in production.
BMW also produced the Z3 from 1995-2002 which was styled after the 503 (1955-59) and the much rarer Z8 (1998-2003) based on the 507 (1956-60). Also in Germany, there was the spectacular SLS AMG built by Mercedes-Benz (2010-15) as a modern recreation of the gullwing 300 SL Coupe (1954-57) whilst south of the Alps, in 2007 Fiat came out with the 500 which reprised the styling of the Nuova 500 launched in 1957. And those are just the ones off the top of my head, there are certainly others.
BTW, as for the Mustang being available with a 2.3 litre EcoBoost 4-cylinder engine: the Mustang was originally made available with a four banger with the introduction of the second generation in 1974. That particular iteration was little more than a rebodied Pinto, which was available with a selection of three inline fours and a V-6; the Mustang got the 2.3 litre four pot. That engine remained the base model engine in the third generation Mustang also, lasting all the way through 1993. The current turbo 4 was introduced in 2015 with the sixth generation. What's surprising given ever tightening governmental emissions restrictions worldwide, is that the car is still available with huge thumping V-8s.
Merry Christmas and a Happy 2024 guys.
Merry xmas to you also 🎄
I look forward to the insurance renewal for my street triple rs coming in cheaper than a T120 then. 😀
Let’s hope so 😂
Question!: What's a good, affordable bike for a newbie/starter? Thank you in advance!
Question for next go’ round….. what is your overall favorite brand and why?
It would be virtually impossible to make modern classic cars, because safety standards wouldn't allow them to look traditional. Look at a modern Mini and an original version to see how much protection alters the shape of a car. Talking of dodgy insurance, I was rear ended on the bike sitting at a red light. I saw a car racing up in the mirrors and braced for impact. It shunted me several yards but I stayed upright, and had severe whiplash for the next few weeks. The guy got out smelling like a brewery, and I reported the accident to the police. Next time I came to insure, the premium had gone up. I asked why and they said you've had a claim against you. Turns out the insurers had put it down as a knock-for-knock case! If the most one-sided incident imaginable can be attributed to mutual blame, it's clear insurers don't care about details like culpability.
Same thing happened to me and I even lost my excess.
Scooter review! Yes! 4:14
Can you do one on unnecessary tech on modern bikes.Ride by wire and riders modes are nonsense
Question..you may have addressed this already but what did ordoestge old man do for a living?Happy Christmas 👍🏻
Also ignore the haters👍🏻
Merry xmas also 🎄
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Back in the day i was behind a bus he indecated right so i went down the left hand side of him. Then he turned left and i jumped off the bike and it wa scrushed by the bus.No when i went to my local police station they when to Ribble bus and asked for the drivers details . It turned that he wa called Khan now half of the people in Preston are called Khan and he siad that it wasntb him lol . The police man dealing with it siad forget it son they share driving licenses .So no chance of catching Mr Khan . My by beloved DT125 crushed LOL
Have you seen the swm 1200 harley look a like from Italy but built in China I think I am an old mod from the early 70s had a few scooters loved them I now have an interceptor a guzzi v7 stone se and benelli 502c and enjoy them roll on March to start riding again
Question for future podcasts…”what is the meaning of life?” Or…what bike that you no longer have do you wish you had kept?
The second question is something to think about, indeed 👍
The grid
wouldnt support fully electric
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I did ask a question last time, about the Old mans plans for Spain, which he kindly answered. Question this time, If you were invited to a bike launch that you did not like the style/target market of, would you still go?
Good question 👍🏼
I also like the Super Meteor 650 . Looks very nice . Happy Christmas and dont take it to heart whne people have ago its part of streaming lol
Luckily we don't take it to heart 👍🏼Happy Christmas 🎄
If all bikes were like that, I would get a donkey. Classic 😁
Should someone in California who will have to rely on freeways in some way or another even consider a royal enfield 350?
Everything will look exactly the same soon enough, because of emmision laws/rules!
I have another question, this time directly to The Old Man.
What is happening with your move? Are you still going? Is it on the back burner?
"I'm not gonna do scooter reviews ...... Yeah to be fair I wouldn't mind a go on a Vespa"??
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I have been watching you guys for a while now and you are always going to get fools making comments to get a reaction. Just keep up the good work . I love your streams and look forwards to next year . I also think that some people cant stream and dont know how to stream so dont take any notice . Dont ever mention Vespas lol aahhhhh no lol. The Hornet is a great bike in the 1000cc model .
If money was no object, what bikes would either of you buy to create your perfect garage??
Question: what's your favorite bike from the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s?
Just wondering if you guy's like any of the latest crop of insect looking bikes?
Not really haha 😬
Can you talk about hair loss/male pattern baldness from both your dad and your own perspective? Serious question here 🙏
Is ‘male pattern baldness’ politically correct? lol. 🤣😂🤣
I think the panagale is pretty sporty. There's a few pretty tasty BMWs over 1000Cc too. We all know 750 is the correct number of ccs. Love the content. Ditch the Harley and get the Guzzi. I totally agree with Dad's connect about electric over priced cars. There's no one talking about the about of diesel used to extract all the toxic elements in Africa to produce the batteries. Hydrogen is the future if we're going to keep importing masses of Chinese crap to UK and shipping it by road. How many miles do you think an artic will go on a battery?
Nothing wrong with Lambretta...much better looking than a Vespa
;erry Christmas les deux.
Merry xmas 🎄
20:40 motorcyclists life moto "people are idiots"
Sinnis is the same as Lexmoto.