Understanding the Present Moment #4 (Michel Foucault)

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  • Friends, today on the “Word on Fire Show,” we conclude our series of discussions called “Understanding the Present Moment.” Brandon Vogt and I have examined four massively influential figures who together help explain our present moment, how we arrived at where we are today.
    The ideologies undergirding much of the unrest in our culture stem from these four thinkers: Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Michel Foucault. Once we understand these figures and their key ideas, we will recognize them everywhere and be prepared to engage today’s challenges.
    In today’s fourth and final discussion, we focus on Michel Foucault, perhaps the least known of the four but maybe the one with the greatest direct impact on the way many in our culture think today.
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  • @CenterPorchNP
    @CenterPorchNP Рік тому +25

    Because of this series, I have enrolled into the Hillsdale College philosophy class. I haven't taken philosophy since 2015 (my first year of college at 45). Thank you for the enlightenment on these men.

    • @jmartinousIII
      @jmartinousIII Рік тому

      You might as well watch a playlist of PragerU videos if you're taking "courses" from Hillsdale. It's basically just a Republican mouthpiece college.

  • @ronnestman4696
    @ronnestman4696 Рік тому +31

    God bless Bishop Barron and Word on Fire ministries 🙏🏻❤️✝️

  • @Thomas-dw1nb
    @Thomas-dw1nb Рік тому +9

    I love Bishop Barron's explanations of the Trinity. Coming from a Oneness Pentecostal background and highly resistant to the Trinity, I found his Catholicism series episode, "The Ineffable Mystery of God", very disarming. While certainly not a treatise on the Trinity, his description of God was very relatable to my understanding of God and his explanation of the Trinity helped take me out of my defensive posture. It was key in opening me up to a more honest exploration of the history and context surrounding the development of the doctrine. That was also my first major step in my journey toward Catholicism.

  • @juanperez2006
    @juanperez2006 Рік тому +39

    Looking forward to this one. I've listened to the ones for Marx, Nietzsche, and Sartre and now this is the conclusion of the series.
    Very informative!

  • @condelevante4
    @condelevante4 Рік тому +35

    I really appreciated this and the positive approach to seeing the good points of what many are inevitably going to see as the enemy. But there are truths in these philosophers works even if their conclusion are wrong and ultimately damaging. The church will overcome and be stronger for it.

    • @viviennedunbar3374
      @viviennedunbar3374 Рік тому +11

      Every Catholic high school should have philosophy lessons which cover all these ideas and critique them BEFORE students go to college, so they aren’t naive and also understand how the academy (in the anglophone West at least) is obsessed with them.

    • @Encyclicals
      @Encyclicals Рік тому +1

      Test everything, take what is good. Love it!

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 Рік тому

      @@viviennedunbar3374 yes

    • @lepanto3607
      @lepanto3607 Рік тому +5

      @@viviennedunbar3374 100% agree. Philosophy should be mandatory all 4 years and these topics should be discussed thoroughly in every Catholic high school. I would have avoided so much nonsense after high school if I was exposed to Catholics like Bishop Barron breaking down these atheists philosophers.

  • @ioal111
    @ioal111 Рік тому +12

    I’d like to hear Bishop Barron discuss Heidegger.

  • @rocky4976
    @rocky4976 Рік тому +11

    Thanks again for your work and You tube clips. Not Catholic yet but your work is drawing many to or back to the universal church.

  • @damo780
    @damo780 Рік тому +3

    Fabulous linkage of Foucault Nietzsche, Marx & Freud. Thankyou for clearing that up Bishop

  • @shelleyhender8537
    @shelleyhender8537 Рік тому +6

    How wonderfully kind of you to offer 2 books at the cost of 1! The discount is appreciated immensely…far more than I can express here! Obviously, both your team and yourself Bishop Baron, realize the financial hardship many of us are experiencing. Offering this “special” - quite literally means - I/we DO NOT have to choose between food for our bodies, over food for our souls! Unfortunately, this reality is frequently becoming a daily occurrence! During this financially challenging crisis, The Lord has BLESSED us via this ministry, as well as, presenting this rare opportunity to purchase such “quality” books of FAITH, that would otherwise be financially prohibitive! Sharing your personal thesis is an exceptional gift offering, as I can appreciate the magnitude of detailed research required when undertaking such a project - all while under time constraints! And, if that wasn’t already sufficiently difficult in and of itself - add an extra layer of complexity, by offering the books in a cohesive, comprehensive manner, that can be understood by a non-theologian…and be ENJOYED thoroughly!
    May the remainder of your summer be HEALTHY, JOYFUL, and GOD BLESSED!!🇨🇦😎🇨🇦

    • @outofoblivionproductions4015
      @outofoblivionproductions4015 Рік тому

      I am a Fanboy of 'Thomas Aquinas: Spiritual Master.' 'Robert Barron' opened my eyes to St Thomas Aquinas. I didn't even know Mr Barron was Catholic 🙂back in 2003. 😅 I think it should/is/ or will be a popular classic Catholic theology book.

  • @saraanic9436
    @saraanic9436 Рік тому +28

    I just wish this conversations were longer. Half an hour is still too little for these four philosophers.
    Michael asked an excellent question. Maybe Bp. Barron could do several videos about the Trinity.

    • @frans3950
      @frans3950 Рік тому

      I agree

    • @Commonchaffinch2
      @Commonchaffinch2 Рік тому

      @Nikos Antikythera on the contrary. The Catholic Church does not rely on the propaganda like the world machine in order to be effectively promulgated. The faith and the true church exist in spite of corruption not because of its lack of existence (after all lack of evil would be fiction in this world). The truth exists despite lies , not because of the any lying, human institution. The truth exists because God willed it. And we have tainted it.

    • @Commonchaffinch2
      @Commonchaffinch2 Рік тому

      @Nikos Antikythera I do agree with you on the opinion of Foucault in terms of his non-Catholic lifestyle and subsequent IDEALS & FASHION 👿

    • @Commonchaffinch2
      @Commonchaffinch2 Рік тому

      @Nikos Antikythera God knows I won’t antiquate Foucault and call what he did stylish 🥴 as Bishop Barren has by this video. I suppose it’s the LA lgbtq community rubbing off on him. Or trying to attract those from within his cult, to the Catholic faith, in his regard , I hope. Secretly all Catholics still wonder if bishop barren believes in the existence of Hell, but like I said before he does not dictate the truth. God does.

  • @carolinebaker6318
    @carolinebaker6318 Рік тому +41

    I am so grateful for this series of discussions. Foucault seems to be the most influential of the thinkers who lead to despair.

    • @MH-zg5yw
      @MH-zg5yw Рік тому

      Influential? I doubt it. Foucault was a degenerate. He advocated for pedophilia. "Foucault scholars and editors prefer to pass over his advocacy of pederasty in silence". Foucault is gross

  • @selamethiopia1157
    @selamethiopia1157 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Bishop Barron! God bless you!

  • @roseimperial7776
    @roseimperial7776 Рік тому +1

    Dear Bishop!Barron this series, truly gave me more insights on how to react to the assault of so much " name calling, and crude remarks" in social media. THIS OPENED MY MIND TO BEING A CHRISTIAN IN THE PRSENT MOMENT, BY UNDERSTANDING THE ARCHEOLOGY OF IDEAS".

  • @greyforge27
    @greyforge27 Рік тому +34

    The French philosophers have really done a number on us

    • @SomboonCM
      @SomboonCM Рік тому +2

      "French..."

    • @lorenzogonzales4670
      @lorenzogonzales4670 Рік тому

      Terrifyingly, there are well documented references from Colleagues of Foucault that have him spending time in Tunisia engaging in child sexual abuse. Douglass Murray outlines the joys of the lefts intellectual heroes in “The War on the West”.

    • @jl2dobrzyn
      @jl2dobrzyn Рік тому +1

      As they typically do. Self-absorbed, yet insecure. Weak and cowardly, yet more than willing to trash their perceived enemies.

    • @thephoneranger1
      @thephoneranger1 10 місяців тому

      Tell me more.

    • @DigitalLogos
      @DigitalLogos 3 місяці тому

      ​@@SomboonCM 👆😏

  • @fredh2024
    @fredh2024 Рік тому +4

    Thanks WOF for doing this 4 part series!

  • @tessysingh1327
    @tessysingh1327 Рік тому +4

    Oh I loved the Mortimer Adler joke so much! I played it back and cracked up again and again.

  • @kallelundahl5784
    @kallelundahl5784 Рік тому +6

    Great, Bishop Barron, that you mention that Foucault went to Uppsala (in 1955-1958)! His most formative years.

  • @mlrsguy250
    @mlrsguy250 Рік тому +20

    Thanks Bishop Baron for helping us emerge “from our intellectual ghettos”😏

    • @MH-zg5yw
      @MH-zg5yw Рік тому

      The bishop conveniently left out Foucault's advocacy for pedophilia. Foucault wanted to normalize S&M and pederasty. Very odd that the bishop speaks of him in glowing terms

    • @mlrsguy250
      @mlrsguy250 Рік тому +1

      @@MH-zg5yw I imagine Bishop Barron is giving credit for nuggets of truth, wisdom and influence. Brilliant men with impeccable virtues would be preferred, but alas, are very rare.

    • @MH-zg5yw
      @MH-zg5yw Рік тому

      @@mlrsguy250 Foucault was not a brilliant man. Everything he peddled was geared toward furthering his own personal agenda. His work was an attempt at conditioning his readers and followers to accept the unacceptable. Everything Foucault wrote was aimed at normalizing pederasty, S&M (which he was heavily into) and homosexuality. Foucault offered no nuggets of wisdom or truth. Foucault was anti God and anti religion.
      But, it should come as no surprise that a Catholic bishop is lauding Foucault's work. The Church has allowed the sexual abuse of children for over 40 years. Foucault would be proud

    • @mlrsguy250
      @mlrsguy250 Рік тому

      @@MH-zg5yw oh boy, doesn’t take much “archeological digging” to see the real target of your poison pen is not Foucault or his work but Bishop Barron and the Catholic church. I anguish over the many sins of some members and clergy of the one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church.
      I rejoice in communion with the multitude of saints and martyrs over the past 2,000 years. Embrace the wheat, pray for God’s mercy on the tares.🙏

    • @MH-zg5yw
      @MH-zg5yw Рік тому

      @@mlrsguy250 some members and clergy? The child abuse was widespread and rampant. It was covered up at the highest levels of the church. I was born and raised Catholic. I left the Catholic church because it had been dirty for a long time. The church spiraled into filth, corruption and blatant dishonesty. The Roman Catholic church offers nothing but emptiness. Anyone who supports the Catholic church is complicit in the child abuse it perpetrated.

  • @anneturner2759
    @anneturner2759 Рік тому +9

    You two gentlemen bring me joy, a good feeling, joy. Thank you both.

  • @nicksibly526
    @nicksibly526 Рік тому +11

    The irony is that people who see everything through the lens of power are the most terrifying when they do get into positions of power.

    • @outofoblivionproductions4015
      @outofoblivionproductions4015 Рік тому

      Putin.

    • @aloys7716
      @aloys7716 Рік тому

      Because it's a projection.
      It's not a condemnation but a justification.

    • @user-ub2jp7tg6k
      @user-ub2jp7tg6k Рік тому

      Do you have any evidence of a person who understands foucault's theory of power who has gained some and used it for bad? I think you should actually engage with the texts.

    • @user-ub2jp7tg6k
      @user-ub2jp7tg6k Рік тому

      @@aloys7716 it is absolutely a condemnation.

    • @aloys7716
      @aloys7716 Рік тому

      @@user-ub2jp7tg6k It is absolutely a justification.
      For example, we have known for a long time that Foucault regularly indulged in sadomasochistic orgies with his students.
      Power was a powerful aphrodisiac for him.
      Last year, we even learned, thanks to his best friend, that he was raping little boys in the cemeteries of Tunisia (he wanted apparently to rape them there at all costs).
      Moreover, all French politicians who claim to be "progressive", Macron included, are fervent disciples of Foucault and scrupulously apply his concept of "deconstruction".
      They strive to "deconstruct" the native French people and their civilization so that nothing can oppose their megalomaniacal whims.

  • @mridulkodiyan8575
    @mridulkodiyan8575 Рік тому +7

    May God help us overcome this time.

  • @johnmartin4650
    @johnmartin4650 Рік тому +4

    Excellent….thank you.

  • @Carlos-ln8fd
    @Carlos-ln8fd Рік тому +2

    Thanks for the serious academic take on these topics

  • @garyvanhagen3001
    @garyvanhagen3001 Рік тому +5

    Very well done and informative 🤗😇🙏

  • @billrevellese5635
    @billrevellese5635 Рік тому +1

    very insightful - love the in depth dive into the philosophy and Bishop Barron is masterful in apologetics. Wonderful episode

  • @Coco2345ful
    @Coco2345ful Рік тому +1

    Thank you and god Bless!

  • @praxidescenteno3233
    @praxidescenteno3233 2 місяці тому

    I told when someone lovely people bring me LOVE others gave me work to back their Hearts at the fluential God's LOVE

  • @Coco2345ful
    @Coco2345ful Рік тому

    I can't for the liffe of me,a grandmother, understand why I find this so fascinating....

  • @dynamic9016
    @dynamic9016 Рік тому

    Really appreciate this video.

  • @joelcruz811
    @joelcruz811 Рік тому +3

    Yeeeppp, been waiting for this

  • @frans3950
    @frans3950 Рік тому +1

    Again excellent video!

  • @johnkussmann4268
    @johnkussmann4268 Рік тому +8

    Excellent discussion on roots of ideas influencing society today!

  • @joane24
    @joane24 11 місяців тому

    Very interesting talk, thank you Bp. Barron.
    So the way I understand bit, I think the key to understand Foucault's arguments from the Catholic/Christian perspective and how these approaches differen, is to note the relativism of Foucault and negation of a notion of human nature and of any stable, objective ideas. Which is generally the trope of other postmodern thinkers as well, of course. So for Foucault the ideas that he traces by their genealogies, are no more than social and cultural practices. These practices are, the way I would put it, signifiers, but the signified is empty, it doesn't exist apart from how people construct it by means of discourse and practices. So that's also the regime of truth, the power over discourses, which at the same time is ever changing, is negotiable, so - and here goes the power - depends on who's in power to decide the discourse, who's the power to constitue social institutions, etc. So,in the end, there's no ideals, no values, no morals, that would be objective, it's all relative.
    (Please correct me if I'm wrong, I did quite some reading of Foucault at the university, but I'm not all that very deeply versed.)

  • @DerekJFiedler
    @DerekJFiedler Рік тому

    Great series. Thank you for digging into each of these four influencers. Now I can see more clearly how formational they were to modern thinking.

  • @marchess286
    @marchess286 27 днів тому

    great series. thank you

  • @StevenJBosch
    @StevenJBosch Рік тому +1

    My reading on subjects like this has been sporadic at best and discussions are often short and to the point. But when these topics come up my memory turns to what I learned from Martin Luther King Jr. and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Both of these men drew a lot from Western Canon and combined with what they saw around them moved to oppose evil even at the cost of their lives.

  • @danieltracy7136
    @danieltracy7136 Рік тому +5

    I studied chemistry and engineering, and "missed" learning about Foucault during my academic years. I don't get his attraction by US academic types.

  • @soniaaltuzar6191
    @soniaaltuzar6191 Рік тому +2

    Son muy inteligentes los dos y el obispo aclara muchísimo, nos encanta escucharlo

  • @inigomontoyo1555
    @inigomontoyo1555 Рік тому +1

    Great series! Really enjoyed it.
    I would love for you to comment on Paulo Freire's influence on American public education from a theological standpoint sometime!

  • @the117man
    @the117man 4 місяці тому +1

    The cult of Foucault and his perverse ideology was highly celebrated and prevalent in the public university I attended (2013-2018). Foucault's legitimazation or academization of these ideas is troubling. I was called out a mysogynist and elitist for "daring" to quote Plato or Voltaire during our in-class debates.
    Remindeds me today of the verse: " Whosoever shall misled my children..."

  • @nicholasbishop5892
    @nicholasbishop5892 Рік тому +4

    Objectivity is properly ordered subjectivity-Bernard Lonergan-thank you, Bishop Barron.

  • @jackjonesdrums42
    @jackjonesdrums42 Рік тому

    Wow, brilliant interview….

  • @taywil64A
    @taywil64A Рік тому

    It would be great if Bishop Barron wrote a book on the original lecture given a few years ago and included his scholarly insights into the major figures of modernist and woke figures that are shaping modern civilization. There is a demand for such thoughtful studies. The talks have been very educational and informative in helping us understand trends influencing so much of Western civilisation.

  • @Blockhead140
    @Blockhead140 Рік тому +1

    Interesting!

  • @francescos7361
    @francescos7361 Рік тому

    Thanks.

  • @henofed
    @henofed Рік тому +3

    I so struggled with Foucault at uni, had to read aloud and still could not understand. No surprise that postmodernism comes from him, I cannot see any good in this philosophy.

  • @NGAOPC
    @NGAOPC Рік тому +37

    In more recent news in Europe has been serious consideration of evidence he predated on children in Tunisia (his primary biographer, James Miller, who was also a friend of his, didn’t doubt the evidence, in fact argued that it didn’t matter for his ‘contributions’ in “why we shouldn’t cancel Foucault”). This is last years news really, and not news to the Church; German bishops were called to task for a position paper on the abuse scandals and preventing further abuse that relied on his research. I’m very surprised this wasn’t discussed in this video. CNA featured an article on this case “Abuse Commission of Church in Germany Defends Citing Michel Foucault”. In addition, Foucault among many other French intellectuals of his day (Sartre, Deridda, Deleuze, Lyotard, Barthes, Beauvoir, Guattari, etc), all signed off on a petition opposed to age of consent laws. These are not tangential points about the man, as much as this video may be about his ideas. He LIVED OUT his “ideas” as he presented them, as the “play” of power and sxuality, literally to his dying days with AIDS.

    • @NGAOPC
      @NGAOPC Рік тому +1

      It’s been recently suggested in academic literature that Foucault and his theories are central to what became “discourses” on identity politics, social justice issues, critical race theory (obviously queer theory), etc. central to his life was a fixation on sex and death, deviance of all kinds from societal norms as enlightenment and political liberation, revolutionary politics (and ironic support of the Islamic Revolution in Iran - probably because of it being ‘exotic’ and revolutionary), submission to experiences of “playing” with power relationships, his personal life of sadomasochism, all of it was integrated. Even the accusations of atrocities against children *in graveyards* strikes me as par for the dis/course. His worldview entailed PRAXIS and not mere “life of the mind” contemplation - he explored it to his death, it was THAT important to him. He was arguably consistent if nothing else, in being a proactive, evangelical decadent, and I’m still surprised that this is not as consistently acknowledged more, or at least acknowledged, especially here.

  • @sarahrei4530
    @sarahrei4530 Рік тому +1

    Great video, I really liked how Bishop Barron also emphasized the good things about Foucault’s philosophy. However I would also appreciate if Bishop Barron explained more deeply how to respond to the things Foucault gets wrong, especially since our culture is so influenced by him, I think it’s missing from this video a bit.

  • @JSMI
    @JSMI Рік тому +1

    I'd love to hear you talk about Alexandre Dumas.

  • @dawnlapka3782
    @dawnlapka3782 Рік тому

    I would appreciate it if you two discussed the great American Poetry of Chief Black Elk. Thanks.

  • @praxidescenteno3233
    @praxidescenteno3233 2 місяці тому

    I never tired of that for me no have sense be different that hope Heaven to all

  • @tomekmaleni
    @tomekmaleni Рік тому +9

    Could you make a video on how to fight against the influences of these four?

    • @bens4446
      @bens4446 Рік тому +2

      The title of such a video would have to be "Proving Foucault's point".

    • @DavidRodriguez-cm2qg
      @DavidRodriguez-cm2qg Рік тому +5

      For now, pray, fast, give alms.
      Read to know God, worship to love God, love neighbor to serve God.

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek Рік тому

      There's another comment about applying Foucault's method to himself.
      How do you fight atheism?
      Like David says, prayer, penance, alms.
      I'd add if you really want to get involved, poverty, chastity, and obedience.

    • @lukebrasting5108
      @lukebrasting5108 Рік тому +5

      It's easy to combat them, just use the Moral Argument. Underpinning all of their philosophies is the idea that oppression is objectively wrong. But if God doesn't exist, then there can be no objective moral law to serve as a reference point for human conduct and to which we are all beholden. Without a transcendent moral lawgiver, all that's left is human opinion and what makes one individual's view of what is morally right or wrong more valid than another's, let alone gives them a right to impose their view and demand that they obey? Nothing. So if God doesn't exist, then rape, murder, racism, sexism, colonialism, homophobia, predatory capitalism etc - all of the lefts pet hates - aren't wrong at all. They're just neutral things with no inherent negative value of 'wrongness" attached to them. You would just have to accept them without placing any moral judgment or value on them, just like you would a lion killing a hyena or an pitbull mauling a neighbors cat to death. Humans would be on the same level as animals. That also means that there could be no talk of justice or injustice because nothing is inherently right or wrong, it would just be an arbitrary social construct.

    • @luzclara3855
      @luzclara3855 Рік тому +1

      @@lukebrasting5108 Excellent comment. Thank you!

  • @ricerikson4708
    @ricerikson4708 Рік тому +1

    I watched Mr Foucault on TV once in the 70's, it seemed to me that he was just making it up for himself, and held disdain in his heart for others

  • @luisdanielpicopaez5518
    @luisdanielpicopaez5518 Рік тому +5

    I love Foucault and I'm catholic. I have a master's degree in philosophy and my thesis was on Foucault. And I think the "woke" movement just didn't read him right. 1) When there's power there's resistence. Foucault never said "power is bad, and resistence y good" or 'we should aim for a society without power". He was just describing the ways power is structured, and he did not believed that is structured by a "who", there is not a "group of people in power", but the case is that power is all over us, and all we can do is understand the way power forms us, so we can imagine new ways. As Nietzsche, Foucault thinks that there's no way out of power. Even resistance embodies new power forces. Son in the end is just diferent power struggling.
    2) At the end of his days he was reading the ways we can change ourselves. And found a much longer history. Spirituality is the way we can change ourselves. And the people who really changed society was people who were deeply involved in spiritual practices. But the changes were product of a long term.
    3) In his reading of the classics he forgot the key relationship between their philosophy and their cosmology. So the relation they had with the transcendent forms the way they lived. In that way, Foucault reduces the value of transcendent truth in the way we shape ourselves. That is the essence of the contradiccion Foucault has. He has to eliminate the role of objective value so he can understand power relations, but in order to change power relations he goes to the people who believed in objective value. At the end, to change yourselves you gotta have objective value beliefs.

    • @gethimrock
      @gethimrock Рік тому

      Wow this was quite a comment and I really enjoyed it (though I’m months late). As a Catholic who struggles to fight moral relativism myself this was an interesting take. Are you basically saying that once you get to moral relativism and the only thing that matters is power that the powerful ones value absolute truth and since they win the power struggle absolute truth must exist by definition? Sorry I took two philosophy classes at Notre Dame and that’s it so excuse my ignorance

  • @evanriddle1614
    @evanriddle1614 Рік тому +1

    I'm so glad you got out of California.

    • @evanriddle1614
      @evanriddle1614 Рік тому

      I mean, that place... shake the sand from your sandals.

  • @petergreen8477
    @petergreen8477 Рік тому +6

    Surely one must employ Foucault’s own method on those who draw particular inspiration from him? What is the underlying power play of “wokism”? What do we find if we engage in an archeological excavation of the position they espouse?

    • @michaelmicek
      @michaelmicek Рік тому +4

      Right.
      Well, atheism.

    • @danboshane6956
      @danboshane6956 Рік тому +4

      I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I was obsessed with Foucault when I was a secular young man. For him and other Postmodernists, their deconstruction is only ever directed towards conservative foundations. That's the trick with wokeism. It's aims do not come from an established system of values, it comes from pride and blame, and these are shifting constantly. Therefore they are inherently immune to deconstruction in the style of Foucault.

    • @zenuno6936
      @zenuno6936 Рік тому

      Given that he was a sodomite and died due to it, and also said children can consent to sex. Could justifying these behaviours be a motivator for his theories.... yes.

  • @wreloise1
    @wreloise1 Рік тому

    Immaculate Mother Mary…Bishop’s adjustment to the weather in Minnesota 🙏🏾

  • @DavidRodriguez-cm2qg
    @DavidRodriguez-cm2qg Рік тому +11

    Yeck, Foucault, the ex-Catholic, atheist, and deconstructionist.
    Ready to see this video.

    • @EcstaticTemporality
      @EcstaticTemporality Рік тому +1

      Derrida is the famed deconstructionist. Most categorize F as poststructuralist.

    • @frenlyfire
      @frenlyfire Рік тому

      he was also a pedophile rapist

    • @Nick-qf7vt
      @Nick-qf7vt Рік тому

      @@EcstaticTemporality what's the difference between a structuralist, deconstructuralist, and a postconstructionalist?

  • @maxmoody1773
    @maxmoody1773 Рік тому +15

    Barron does a really good job of explaining these figures and the true things they said, but I wish he had gone a little more into why they can be dangerous. It feels a bit glossed over. Still, great series.

    • @jhfoever
      @jhfoever Рік тому +4

      They can be dangerous if somebody abuses their points in a very degenerative way

    • @thebacons5943
      @thebacons5943 Рік тому

      Almost the entire video is a critique?

    • @maxmoody1773
      @maxmoody1773 Рік тому

      @@thebacons5943 it's an explanation and understanding, not a critique

    • @thebacons5943
      @thebacons5943 Рік тому +2

      @@maxmoody1773 no, it’s not. The critique may not be comprehensive, but he’s breaking these thinkers down from a Catholic perspective. And far over half of this video is spent on what, in his view Foucault got wrong

    • @Nick-qf7vt
      @Nick-qf7vt Рік тому

      ​@@jhfoever In the case of the ones that Bishop Barron has covered (especially Foucault) I'm not entirely sure there is a way other than a degenerate one in which to use their ideas. With Foucault especially, it seems to be their intention.

  • @praxidescenteno3233
    @praxidescenteno3233 2 місяці тому

    I cried as God cries with his Creation

  • @helena_augusta
    @helena_augusta Рік тому +2

    Michel Foucault + Eagle Eye movie + Snowden = we are not crazy, they are watching us and following us everywhere.

  • @timrichardson4018
    @timrichardson4018 Рік тому

    I've had that same question about reconciling God as Being (and not an instance of being) with the persons of the Trinity. I appreciate Bishop Barron's answer and find it satisfying. I think this is where an Orthodox criticism of western Catholicism comes into play. They feel less of a need to neatly and precisely define and describe things. They are more comfortable with mystery and simply accepting it as such. That's not to say they don't define doctrine with a certain level of precision. They do indeed. It's a difference in degree rather than kind, in my opinion. As westerners, we are all inheritors of an intellectual tradition that has induced in us a need for precise explanation. I feel that need just as strongly as anyone, and so appreciate these sorts of explanations. However, I think we should all remember that a description of a thing is not the thing itself. Language, no matter how precise or accurate, can not finally capture the full truth and nuance of the thing it describes. There will always be some degree of gap between the two. And this is a beautiful thing about Christianity, that it doesn't rely finally on having a firm intellectual grasp on God, rather it insists that one must experience God.

  • @francescos7361
    @francescos7361 Рік тому +1

    I love Foucault , thanks . I love him he was great.

  • @johnmartin4650
    @johnmartin4650 Рік тому +5

    The stage becomes set for new dogma…….what’s good is bad….what’s bad is good….we’re in a real pickle

  • @axkirby
    @axkirby Рік тому +2

    I wish Paris had photos and images of René Girard, instead of Michel Foucault

  • @nathanngumi8467
    @nathanngumi8467 Рік тому

    Word.

  • @laljohnkhuptong2110
    @laljohnkhuptong2110 Рік тому

    Ki ngaklah gawp ei PuBarron

  • @SRamosX
    @SRamosX Рік тому

    Can you publish the second part of your dissertation, on Paul Tillich? We already have plenty of Aquinas.

  • @processrauwill7922
    @processrauwill7922 Рік тому +5

    Does Foucault save himself from deconstructing himself? Like is he critical of his own deconstruction or does he view himself as sort of an god-like figure siting outside of it. The one thing that struck me in this talk is that, I can see how deconstruction can almost be turned against itself. The suspicion of suspicion.

    • @tranvictor8860
      @tranvictor8860 Рік тому +1

      You know that most of the critics always criticize others except themselves 😞

    • @processrauwill7922
      @processrauwill7922 Рік тому

      @@tranvictor8860 well that’s Christ move almost to turn judgment upon himself.

  • @glorianova7557
    @glorianova7557 Рік тому +1

    ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️

  • @davekushner5340
    @davekushner5340 Рік тому

    I literally paused it, bought the anthology, came back just to hear the promotion with both books... oh well.

  • @jesusmariajosephmariaimmac9325

    PRAYER TO MARY, QUEEN OF THE ANGELS
    [ August Queen of Heaven Prayer ]
    An Indulgence of 300 days.
    (S. C. Ind., July 8, 1908; S. P. Ap., Mar. 28, 1935)
    August Queen of Heaven and Mistress of the Angels, thou who hast received from God the power and the mission to crush the head of Satan: we humbly ask thee to send to us thy heavenly legions so that, under thy command, they may pursue the demons let loose upon the earth, fight them everywhere, vanquish their audacity, and drive them back into the abyss.
    “Who is like unto God?”
    O good and tender Mother, thou shalt ever be our love and our hope.
    O divine Mother, send the Holy Angels to defend us [me] and repel far from us [me] the cruel enemy.
    Holy Angels and Archangels, defend and keep us. Amen.
    THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PRAYER
    [Please Read]
    The faithful are asked to say this prayer frequently and fervently. It is of great importance given the following remarkable background:
    [1] The prayer was dictated by the Blessed Mother herself to the holy and venerable priest, Fr. Louis-Édouard Cestac, on January 13, 1863 as a means to combat the powers of Hell.
    [2] An exorcism prayer in itself, this is a formidable prayer for “spiritual battle” especially needed for our times when the ravages caused by the fallen angels are everywhere conspicuous and unrelenting.
    [3] It is a prayer approved by the Church: It was recommended to the faithful by Pope Pius IX, and later indulgenced by both Popes Leo XIII and Pius X.
    Prayers of the Auxilium Christianorum - Fr. Chad A Ripperger
    The Chapel of Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal
    Society of the Green Scapular
    Catholic Answers
    Sola , Alone , Only ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Myth , Legend ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • @haraldwolte3745
    @haraldwolte3745 Рік тому +2

    James Burnham's book "The Machiavellians" lists thinkers such as Machiavelli, Mosca, Pareto. One of the similarities between those thinkers according to Burnham, is that they see through superficial reasoning. They ignore the "formal" argument made by an author and instead see through to the "real" argument. Does this make them "masters of suspicion " along with Freud, Marx and Foucault?

  • @slavicgypsy5535
    @slavicgypsy5535 Рік тому +4

    Just hearing his name makes my skin crawl.

  • @wintersmill4853
    @wintersmill4853 8 місяців тому

    Each philosopher has a lense with which to view and interpret the world. The trick is to take these different lenses and use all of them as tools for thinking about things. Philosophy is a tool, just don’t get dogmatic about your favorite lense.

  • @mikemccarthy6719
    @mikemccarthy6719 Рік тому

    Hey Bishop Barron when you mention that something would need a greater explanation to really flesh out the question or topic can you drop a few good books and/or parts of books that would help to flesh it out, please?

  • @parishvicar7612
    @parishvicar7612 Рік тому +1

    Speaking of highly abstract, misunderstood philosphers and theologians, might we add Rudolf Bultmann, given that he is probably cited more often than any other theologian, particularly in the area of NT scripture.

  • @oo3380
    @oo3380 Рік тому

    Michel Foucault got this ideas about prison system from Alexis de Tocqueville's book on penitentiary system in America.

  • @die_schlechtere_Milch
    @die_schlechtere_Milch Рік тому +1

    i cannot take that Frenchman serious, but I learned some things about the history of confession and its different styles when I read him. Nonetheless, philosophy is about arguing for and justifying one's opinions and not about having opinions, no matter how "interesting"/excentric.

  • @everetunknown5890
    @everetunknown5890 Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @anneturner2759
    @anneturner2759 Рік тому

    Random question, what was the name of the book for children you talked about ( B.B.) ? It looked wonderful. It was about the contribution that Christian’s have made in the sciences? Was it The Believers? Thanks, love you both.

  • @outofoblivionproductions4015

    25:35 "The condition for the possibility of true objectivity is a properly constituted subjectivity."- Bernard Lonergan

  • @Luke-db9fc
    @Luke-db9fc 3 місяці тому

    Hurray for French philosophy!

  • @alexanderangelo7284
    @alexanderangelo7284 Рік тому +4

    I wish he would cover Ludwig Feuerbach.

  • @nafeesmuktadir3199
    @nafeesmuktadir3199 Рік тому

    I have heard fron pfoff. John Gray that knowledge can enslave as much as it can enlighten.He said it was in aquinas.Would you be kind to tell me more about it???

  • @tdranger6888
    @tdranger6888 Рік тому

    One individual human person has three distinct aspects: a front, a profile, and the articulation of the parts, all distinct, none complete. They are inter-related & complementary, yet each describes the very same person in a different way, and together the complete person (ok, only to some degree, it's not a perfect explanation).

  • @motownmoneygang
    @motownmoneygang Рік тому +1

    Since watching Inception, I tend to view the holy trinity as this:
    THE FATHER is God, the pure being, and also the ultimate dreamer. His dream is our reality. He dreams lucid, meaning he is fully aware that he's dreaming and actively designing/creating his dream.
    THE SON is the personification of the father in the dream. He is created human like us, yet in him resides the father, so that he can walk among his creation.
    THE HOLY SPIRT is God's loving awareness present everywhere at all times in the dream, except for within us and our desires, where our own spirit resides and exercises free will. As we receive god's grace, pray and live righteously, we can choose to open the door for the holy spirit to come bring clarity, guidance and love.
    As we dream, we are a person laying in bed, a person in the dream, and the dream itself is also fully us, since it resides in our minds. That's three beings in one, just like God.
    I of course don't know if it is true, but I think this is a good analogy for the holy trinity, as we are allegedly made in God's image. I hope we are, and most of all I hope that God really loves us. I sometimes kill ants out of boredom and it frightens me that an ultimate being may treat us the same way.
    Lets pray for world peace.☀

  • @praxidescenteno3233
    @praxidescenteno3233 2 місяці тому

    I practiced that all life cause my own Soul get off when i didn't

  • @kevnev342
    @kevnev342 Рік тому +6

    this series ultimate shows the futility of Godless thinkers, although they may show us truths about humanity fallen system and state, they often have poor and damaging conclusions and solutions.

  • @trivialgravitas9581
    @trivialgravitas9581 Рік тому +3

    Now do Derrida.

  • @oooloo99
    @oooloo99 Рік тому

    A society with to many laws is a society of people that are not protecting themselves or thinking for themselves. A society dumbed down in the position of "a pet" rather then free and strong individuals of conscience thoughtful living.

  • @davidiancrux
    @davidiancrux Рік тому

    I missed the BOOK SALE AAAAAA

  • @JimBillyRayBob
    @JimBillyRayBob Рік тому

    This begs the question: What is power?

  • @lindag1372
    @lindag1372 Рік тому +1

    Maybe Bishop Barron could read and comment on the BOOK OF HEAVEN and living in the Divine Will.

  • @felicityh.1947
    @felicityh.1947 11 місяців тому

    Foucault and Marx suspicious mode of discourse definitely crosses the full political and religious spectrums.

  • @gariochsionnach2608
    @gariochsionnach2608 Рік тому +1

    Trinity: 3 phases of one Being? Long short analogy: water 1 substance, but can be ice, liquid & gas ...

    • @megaselfia1093
      @megaselfia1093 Рік тому

      This view is called Sabellianism or Modalism, which is considered heresy by ecumenical council

  • @richardfranklin2454
    @richardfranklin2454 Рік тому

    I Excellent as usual. I need help on understanding what Bishop Barron said at the 26:30 mark. The caption shows "anymore you know so wandering and said we... " But this doesn't make any sense so what was actually said. I was hoping it was a persons name. Please help.

    • @richardfranklin2454
      @richardfranklin2454 Рік тому

      Thanks to WOF's Rob Abney the answer to my call for help - Bernard Lonergan. Thanks a hundred fold to Mr. Rob Abney.

  • @brendamyc3057
    @brendamyc3057 Рік тому

    Okay

  • @josephsimoncurran9994
    @josephsimoncurran9994 Рік тому +3

    Thank you, this was very interesting. It does seem we need more general discussion about Foucault's thought and methods, hopefully we will see more of this. (Though I do think Marx the Shakespeare lover might be disappointed as it being suggested that he was opposed to great books 🙂). I wonder can we see any Foucault influences on thought on the 'right' - thinking about ideas about the deep state or hostility to public health measures? or would they be a result of other influences? Elsewhere someone suggested a video on the influence of Ayn Rand would be graet, I second that. Thanks

  • @hermogene706
    @hermogene706 Рік тому

    Paradoxically, MF's denunciation of power games (domination, intimidation, obfuscation, self-righteousness...), whether in society or between individuals is perfectly illustrated by his own ways : mostly, his publishing weighty treatises, illegible except for the academic virtuosi partaking and basking in his cryptic modes of expression. All that -essentially- to remind us, as Bishop Barron aptly summarizes: "don't be short sighted, there were and are other points of view... ".