Understanding the Present Moment #1 (Karl Marx)
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Friends, today on the “Word on Fire Show,” we kick off a new series of discussions called “Understanding the Present Moment.” Brandon Vogt and I will look at four massively influential figures who together help explain our present moment, how we arrived at where we are today.
The ideologies undergirding much of the unrest in our culture stem from these four thinkers: Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche, Jean-Paul Sartre, and Michel Foucault. Once we understand these figures and their key ideas, we will recognize them everywhere and be prepared to engage today’s challenges.
In today’s first discussion, we focus on Karl Marx.
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I'm thinking of coming back to the faith because of the preaching and example set by Bishop Barron
Just do it mate.
Rob, it's even better being a Catholic the second time around. Believe me.
Isn't Bishop Barron just the best. Truly his intellect must be from the grace of God.
That original video was the main reason why I stopped being an atheist after 20-years; and I'm currently in the process of converting into Catholicism. I now pray daily (I am subscribed to the liturgy of the hours because I felt kind of lost on how to pray properly after avoiding it for so long) and I can testify that these liturgy of the hours has pretty much almost cured my anxiety and depression. The Hallow app has helped me a lot. I love to listen to Francis for my prayers--his voice is so soothing!
It is so amazing what God has done for me. I have been on psychiatric medication for years and was even hospitalized because I was extremely suicidal. I was finally removed off my antidepressant (under the watchful eyes of my therapist and psychiatrist, of course) and my symptoms have not returned! My psychiatrist and therapist are overjoyed and I don't need to see them so often anymore (I've been seeing my therapist weekly for over 7-years). And it's not just that... my mood has improved so much! I feel happier, lighter and just like an overall positive person. Which is very odd for me because I was the age old goth girl. I mean, I still have that chic gothic look, but I'm genuinely happy and cannot wait for my future. And now I started a nonprofit (with Catholic values, of course) to help other people that were in a similar situation as me. Never would I have done any of this. It's like as soon as my faith returned, things strangely started to fall into place. I tried to convince myself that I was being delusional (leftovers from my atheism), but everyone saw the change in me and my mother is now interested in catholicism.
Please do more of these videos. You just might save more people like me. We just need to hear reasonable answers to our questions that have remained unanswered for so long.
Congratulations! I too am a convert, not from atheism, but from the Baptist church. You have a wonderful journey ahead of you, filled with endless learning and discovery.
So incredibly happy for you! May all your efforts lead many others to the joy of Christ.
Wondering what the non-profit is called? Would like to share with someone I have in mind. Thanks!
As a former atheist who struggled with anxiety and depression I feel you. Once I found my faith life has been so much better. It is a constant work to unpack the teachings that you don’t realize was there in the first place but it’s worth the time. Praying for you on your journey.
Welcome home! Praying that you persevere because if you follow the beautiful spiritual life, the devil will strike you from all angles. Happy for you! God bless us all!
That's so true. That particular podcast was really enlightening. As a clinical psychologist with 40 years' work experience, Bishop's presentation made me rethink and reflect on my life and career, in the way I have been helping people as a life mentor. Indeed, a lot of my training has been anchored on unexamined premises on the above four influences. Thank you!
Have you listened to the one he did on psychiatry? I think the title was "Why Psychiatry Needs to Get Right with God"
Great discussion! Bishop Barron who is an intellectual giant reminds me of our beloved seminary professor of Philosophy - Fr. Ronan Callahan, CP who was well-loved by his students everywhere, whether in USA or Philippines.
He was for me a great scholar whose thoughts and writings are equal to or even surpass the philosophical writers of his time (he died at the age of 92 in 2015) having an encyclopedic mind. What puzzles me till now is that he remained to be humble and not known in the intellectual circles. Perhaps his students in St Michael's Seminary in USA can tell.
Thanks and God be forever blessed! Thank you, Bp Barron, you are one of a kind bishop in our world immersed in secularism and godlessness. Continue to shine brightly in your youtube programs.
Barron is easy to follow like a kind , gentle conversation with an old friend .
Greatly appreciated Sir , that you for all your wisdom and guidance
Great service to mankind.. Thank you bishop Barron.
Catholic means universal!!
Bishop Barron, you are a true scholar. Thanks for bringing me to the intellectual side of my Catholic faith.
Bishop Robert Barron you add immensely to my spirirtual life. God add more to your years. I love you.
I have continued to build my Catholic identity through the teachings of Word on Fire Ministries.
Build your identity on God’s Word instead!
@@susiboh1183 silence Protestant
@@susiboh1183 what do you think he’s doing? You should take your own advice.
@susibohthe Catholic Church is the foundation and pillar of truth!! 1183
I so appreciate these topics your team is bringing forward. If only Bishop had been a teacher when I was in school I would have been enthralled. Keep them coming. I was always proud to be Catholic but Bishop has helped me to articulate why to others. God bless you all. Thank you Bishop Barron!
Thank you Bishop. God bless you and your works!
Thank you pastor - I am hopeful for the Church on earth because of LORD's blessing on you and thus, us all.
Very good Bishop Robert Barron, very deep and thought provoking. Thank you from Australia.
Thank you word on Fire, and Bishop Barron!
Great idea for a mini series, thank you. Thank you for the work you do, always very interesting and uplifting. 🙏🙏
I enjoy the way Bishop Barron uses the word “obtain.” ✝️⚓️❤️
Thank you for covering this in more detail. I love your more in depth talks
Well Done 👍. Thank you for sharing. God Bless you all.
Brilliant. Thanks for your wisdom, Bishop ❤
Yes ....... time sensitive in these troubled times! Thank you!
Thank you bishop for sharing your sterling knowledge
As a staunch Protestant, I find Mr Barron a very interesting and intelligent man. He is also correct that modern Marxists knew that their revolution could not succeed by class struggle but by identity politics. I may not share his particular view on God, but wish him nothing but peace and goodwill.
there is no marcism without class struggle. Identity politics is an enlightenment liberal concept not a Marxist concept.
Bishop barron is a man of God! He does not have a view of God! He has been anointed by the Holy Spirit and sent to serve the Lord wherever he is sent!!!that is christianity!! He did not self appoint himself, nor does he own any churches like in your cafeteria system of 100,000 sects!!!
We are blessed to have Bishop Barron . He is gifted superb philosopher. I enjoy listening to all his podcasts and presentations.
Thank you. An excellent discussion. God Bless from Oz
Thank you Bishop Baron from Peru.
In the Knights of Malta address, there was mention of a part 2 on the Church's response. Could you please release that (I don't think it has been released so far). If you can't release that video, could you please do episodes on it for the Word on Fire Show? Thank you.
Pray
Yeah, he called it a "magisterial response" if I remember correctly.
You fellas are amazing together.
Wonderful to listen to Bishop Barron
Absolutely fascinating
Very valuable discussion. Thank you and God bless.
Looking forward to Foucault's! Please get on the subject of biopolitics. Thank you.
Big thanks His Grace!
Whatever I am in now, it would still be safe for me to entrust myself to His Holy Will. Alienation, etc.,the rough roads, whatever it is, all will find rest and satisfaction in Him... Yeah, if I'll be the captain of my journey, if I will listen my desires and thought for now, I will surely be lost...I would rather choose to suffer for a little while and allow Him to take the lead for I know He will not fail the little one who's real desires and joy is His... At least for now, it seems, it is clear what to set aside... I would probably keep my focus to continue... Thanks for the help!
Deo Gratias! 🙏💖🙏💖
excellent education series exploring the newly adopted modern intellectual social concepts and the limitations, thank-you
B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T Teaching! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing!
Good day bishop God bless you. Thank you for your wisdom explaining catholic faith.
He doesn’t explain the Catholic faith, he pushes propaganda
@@Kristy-dd4wo What propaganda is it you think he’s pushing? You clearly haven’t listened to many of his talks if you honk he’s not teaching Catholic values. While talks like this don’t appear Catholic at first look, they absolutely are important to a knowledgeable Catholic population. He is actually teaching Catholics exactly what & why the atheist enemies of Jesus believe & what they are trying to accomplish. We can’t fight back effectively against all these secular atheists with prep school & Ivy League educations, & if we can’t fight back, we can’t win back our society for God.
My guess is you hate Bishop Barron because he doesn’t 100% agree with you on some issue & like the Leftists you want to destroy anyone who disagrees with you. There are plenty of online spaces for that kind of hateful stupidity that does nothing but burn down the world, but this channel is not that place. This is a channel of Christian love & learning & if we disagree, we disagree lovingly. We all would live for you to give those values a try & stick around, but if you only want to spread hate & chaos, this is not the place for you.
@@southbug27 oh no, I listen. He’s a leftist like Pelosi is a catholic. Learn the Catholic religion yourself instead of the garbage he pushes.
@@southbug27
I would argue your response to Kristy is more hateful than hers. Though I do not agree with her I appreciate that she took the time to watch.
You seek to attack the left, while possibly overlooking that both the left and right need each other.
Barron is clearly right wing and I find myself more left leaning. I would believe that Jesus would be more left than right wing in thought. Bishop Barron would think the opposite. Good chance the truth is somewhere in between. And most importantly I highly respect Mr. Barron as a human and as a thinker. Catholics have both a left and a right the same as politics and just maybe that is a necessary thing.
It was actually Tolstoy that reminded me of the two most important teachings in the Gospels.... 1. Turn the other cheek (so deeply mystical I love it). 2. To love thy neighbour.
I try my best (and fail a lot) to constantly remind myself of these two principles.
Don't forget that Jesus would not tell someone this is not the place for them.
The Lord Jesus Christ should not be limited to political attitudes that were created 2000 years after his resurrection. Be a Christian and let the secular labels fall away, they're useless.
I like the concept. Ill keep listening
Excellent as always.
Marvellous. I had never understood Marks properly before
Thank you Mr.Bishop for your explanation l am often confused with this philosophy of Marx unfortunately tought us in school in Hungary long time ago . God blesse you
Rita Biro, read the book “Marx and Satan” by Richard Wurmbrand.
@@susiboh1183 Not a book to read if you care about facts over exaggerations. I feel bad that the author suffered under a so called communist regime. But to then lay that all on the feet of Marx is a bridge too far. Eastern Europeans had suffered and continued to long before Marx entered the picture. Marx never believed that Eastern Europe was a sensible place to begin Communism as they were far too backward and having not advanced sufficiently enough.
It is akin to when people try to erroneously stated that Hitler was a Socialist because of the name of his party. He was anything but.
@@stevenjoseph8134 you are full of stupidity. I feel sorry for you!
God bless you
Thank you for this.
Very Good Discussion. Thank you !
Great work, very informative for society today. Also happy that you are going to these 4 important figures. God Bless you work.
Confirms my way of thinking!
Really appreciate this video.
Ok,
you've set the hook Bisop, now what?
Very interested to hear more.
God Bless you.
God Bless
The best English translation of much of Feuerbach is called the Fiery Brook by Zawar Hanfi; even better than George Eliot.
Five minute in to this I must admit I felt antagonistic as I thought you were going to leave out too much context and balance and just deride Marx, while ignoring the massive contributions this man has made indirectly (ex. five day work week etc). However you did take all my concerns into consideration and provided a great summary. It was so important that you added the time and place and how horrible daily life must have been for factory workers in the 1800's. Especially how you added that Marx would have been against Communism in Russia due to its (at the time) less advanced and agrarian nature.
Great job. Peace and Love.
Now maybe you can speak to the evils of people like JP Morgan and early American Capitalists and all the dirty dealings they would engage in.
Christianity needs clear and highly intelligent speakers like you....keep up the good work.
It is interesting to note, and I learned this recently, that in the middle ages there was no work on the Sabbath, and, in addition, about 40 to 60 feast days during the year in which one was released from toil. That’s effectively a five day work week.
Thank u
Fantastic Catholic analysis and critique on Marxism... the good, the bad, the ugly. Thank you!
This is a wholly incomplete and anything but comprehensive analysis of a seminal thinker. This is not Marx. Read him and form your own opinion before assenting to another’s interpretation.
Best part of the movie, “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!”
Needed to hear this definitely since Marxism is on the rise and I need to be able to speak intelligently about it, including with fellow Secular Franciscans and Catholics of every kind.
Mark Lindeblad , read the book “Marx and Satan” by Richard Wurmbrand!
You'd better read Marx yourself
Great video summary. The alt-right is also pretty anti-institutional as well. The alt-right and the woke crowd are just mirror images of each other. We need principled classic conservatives and classical liberals to regain the middle ground.
The problem is that extremism is promoted by social media. Both extremes amplify each other by constantly reacting against and fighting one another. Leaders like Trump and AOC stoke the flames and make it worse.
I clicked like with qualification. Classic conservative and classic liberal are pretty much synonymous. New Deal/Great Society liberal I would pretty much agree with but with a more mutualist/distributivist focus.
Classical liberals support same sex marriage, polygamy, and abortion in some shape or form so thats a hard pass for me
What exactly is the alt right? Republicans? Libertarians? Skinhead neo-nazis? To most, alt right is anything right of centre. Misleading at best. Be specific in these touchy times!
Yes. Balance is important. Conservatives and Progressives both have something to offer society and it would be chaotic if one of them just disappeared.
As a lapsed catholic trying to get right and as an AnAarChi$t, I love this bishop!
“Present moment” is a quantum state of consciousness, not just “thinking” about what you are doing.
Consciousness is kept in the “thinking mode” forcibly, just like that, it is not possible to get out of the Matrix of the “internal dialogue” (Collective Unconsciousness) and for 98% forever in this life.
Thank you for shedding some light on Karl Marx's idea on his good and ugly side.
While many philosophers would disagree with this characterization of Marx, the bishop has made an admirable, honest effort to engage the thinker (as opposed to a straw man). First time I have seen this from a religious man.
And first time I hear it from Bishop Barron. Dire conditions have rise to a Karl Marx and though his solution was erroneous he brought to the forefront the evils of capitalism at that time. All the laws passed protecting the workers are part of the inheritance of socialism.
Minimum wage laws, assuming they are high enough to actually make a difference (most wages already prevailing in the market are higher) potentially harm the poor by eliminating jobs, stunting job creation, and harming current workers with reduced hours and benefits. Even the workers that are supposed to be helped complain about them for these reasons. They are also more expensive than they appear since they boost required Social Security contributions from both the employee and the employer. And yes, I am Catholic and teach economics. Catholic Social Justice teaching is fine in principle, provided it is informed by the Economic Way of Thinking. If you want more on this, go to the Acton Institute and Acton University.
I think Gramsci and Marcuse are important to understand alongside the others mentioned.
Muchas gracias
To me the bishop seems to more open minded than the host as the latter happens to ask the question sometimes in a biased way. Not big of a deal, I just noticed. He's a young man, he'll learn.
It is crazy how intellligent people aren't that smart after all. I was teached about Marx in secondary school, at university, in real life by politics... now almost half a century of age I'm still looking for answers... In the meantime I have been a teacher myself for more than 22 years. I thank you both for bringing up this straight forward talk. You do a favor to humanity. I guess the peoples all over the world are quite confused, believers and non-believers - equally valid to me - , as we are being numbed down most of the time and left in the darkness so to speak. We need truth, there is an urge for openess in al sort of disciplines so people can decide for themselves in al clearness, transparency but most important: in the light!! I am glad that I stumbled on your conversations today. Thanks a lot.
I’d love to hear BB’s thoughts on Edmund Burke.
I was just studying Edmund Burke this week in school. Such an interesting and overlooked thinker. The difference he saw between the American Revolution and the French Revolution was due to the relatively reasonable political goals of the first, despite the idealistic language of some founders, versus the ideologues who pursued the realization of their ideology at all costs.
@Prasanth Thomas I simply meant in the popular general literature concerning the movement. Of course the Anglo-American conservatives cover him thoroughly, but I meant popular history for the general public may not have exposed enough people to his ideas.
"You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet." Lenin did learn from Marx, but Marx had a better idea of how economical structure and social psychology works. I think Marx understood true Social Services and how to help groups of people, but Lenin was a bad student. Hence the reason so many people died when Lenin was the President of Russia.
In Marxism, there is the teaching of hope for a look into Utopia. He had a desire to change the injustice of his time. He was a teacher of sociology, first, religious second. He was also a scientist, which is how monitoring of capitalism came to be. Bishop Barron, the good the bad and the ugly of Marxism was discussed well, and it was an excellent refresher of my studies. Thank you for these podcasts.
I'm a Catholic and find Bishop Barron's explications of philosophy and theology illuminating, and fair-minded (after all, doesn't the mission of Catholics living in the world involve engage, at some level or another, in a Logos understood through the ordinary-language sense of reason, which means sincere commitment to enquiry, rather than unreflective equivocation, straw-manning etc). The video on Foucault - a figure I respect for his skill in enquiry re the 'archaeology' of concepts, even if I have reservations about him both politically-theoretically, and, particularly when approaching him from a Catholic bodily-ethics perspective, re. his personal conduct - I thought crystallized this.
However, I think the characterization of Bernie Sanders, the 'political desires' of millennials in the wake of contemporary political conditions, and Marx are overly reductive, even in this short video. Bernie's program was/is essentially Social Democratic, a more moderate, US form of post-war Scandinavian social democracy. Nordic SD didn't cure society of all its ills, nor did it claim to - but was successful in terms of international measurements around human happiness ( the right to a home, the ability to raise a family, the ability to co-manage one's labour, the ability to exercise time) - as well as a structural and political emphasis upon sustainability and restraint rather than accelerated consumerism (as 'bad' forms of mimetic desire, after Girard, or forms of ressentiment, using Nietzsche in his proper place rather than to justify atheism), and egregious and spiritually toxic levels of wealth disparity. There was no repression of right to religion, there were no Gulags in Sweden or Denmark, and whilst there was certainly state investment and co-management, there were no Stalinist 5 year plans. Eliding any kind of critique of free-market capitalism with Stalinism is beneath the Bishop or any sincere Catholic. Bishop Barron is well versed enough in political theory not to make these kinds of misrepresentations, particularly since Marxist, left-communitarian, and Post-Liberal (Catholic social thought of the kind Bishop Barron professes) all have a grounding in the common, interwoven 'good life' of Aristotle which is quite contrary to the liberal premises around freedom and self-actualization which formed the chief basis for the actant critique of Bernie from the mainstream.
Furthermore to wonder why young people might be drawn to Bernie's program or to the socialist critique of western capitalism, in the wake of environmental crisis, rampant liberalism whose endpoint or telos is - quite literally - a faustian/satanic valorization of the self for 'gain' and destruction of the individual and social body-social, a politics grounded in variations of the Lie or at least what Kant called the private use of reason rather than the commonwealth, inaction, the inability to cultivate family life and so forth... is staggering. Even figures associated with the Right like Sohrab Ahmari - a Catholic convert and co-editor of Compact (a heterodox, post-liberal and broadly Social Democratic magazine of politics and ideas) have recognized and engaged with these phenomena, invited dialogue with leftists genuinely concerned with the 'social' rather than libertinism or sectarianism and with their critiques of 'tendencies', and promoted an alliance around policy which also affirms a space (or indeed tries to promote, if ecumenically) where purpose can be understood beyond the secular and religion has a role in public life. Again, quite distinct from indifferent modernism or Stalinist violence towards ideological competitors.
Personally, I don't identify as any kind of MLM - the ideal 'earthly kingdom' or exemplifying of the holy spirit as 'community' would be somewhere between More's Utopia as 'base' and standard Catholic distributionalism for 'second-order' goods. This would be a more radicalised (structurally-left) form of post-Liberalism. Nevertheless, there is a tradition of Catholic (heterodox)Marxism (McCabe) in the Church, and even those who have moved away from the Marxist aspect as an identifier, whether McIntyre or the Tradinistae movement - have no issue incorporating its insights in their conception of the social gospel. I know the Bishop is a post-liberal but there are post-liberal theologians (for instance John Milbank) who open (a) synthesise the critiques afforded by Marx around economic relations, ideology and crisis whilst critiquing the materialist-limitations of standard Marxism in grounding the 'eschaton' purely in matter, and (b)recognize the crisis.
How do I get the book please I am from Nigeria
Bishop Barron, Please interview Noelle Mering. In her "Awake Not Woke", she refers to Marxism more than 30 times and totally "gets it".
Is a book written by a woman that works for a literal Washington D.C. think tank the place to get unbiased information about Marx? No.
I call it, "The Cult of the Silver Bullet," and it has many rites and many patron saints, but it's core belief is that you can explicate and ameliorate all of society's problems by addressing, "...this ONE thing."
That is of course not to say that any given, "ONE thing," may not be vitally important, but we need not confuse necessary and sufficient.
Religion is indeed the opiate for the masses... A relationship with God on the other hand (which has nothing to do with "religion") is the way the truth and the light. True Christianity is not religion. TRUE Christianity is a relationship that exists between us and our creator. It is amazing and lacks anything that Karl Marx could ever understand. 🔥🔥🔥❤️
Popes Leo XIII & Pius X shed some light on '...the relative rights & mutual duties of the rich & poor, of Capital & Labor.' Our Catholic Tradition.
The work of Word on Fire is so crucial for our culture, I loved this video and all your other videos. Let me offer this idea: in order to understand where these modern aberrant ideologies come from, I’m not sure we even need to inconvenience Marx or any other great thinker. It all comes from TV. TV, Hollywood, movies and tv series have destroyed people’s ability to think DEEPLY about our world and about reality. The one element that all these modern ideologies have in common is their horrific superficiality. First of all, I would thank TV for that: the easy emotional response, the quick dopamine fix, the narcissistic signaling. It’s all there.
Last I checked TV and radio teaches you to fetishize capital and idolize the lifestyle of the rich and the famous. Js.
Only our Hearts at God's service and LOVE
The problem with saying "capitalism back then was bad but now we have regulations and now it's all okay" is the corporate elites have been sending those jobs overseas and lobbying since the 70s to roll back those protections.
THE OATH AGAINST MODERNISM
To be sworn to by all clergy, pastors, confessors, preachers, religious superiors, and professors in philosophical-theological seminaries.
I . . . . firmly embrace and accept each and every definition that has been set forth and declared by the unerring teaching authority of the Church, especially those principal truths which are directly opposed to the errors of this day. And first of all, I profess that God, the origin and end of all things, can be known with certainty by the natural light of reason from the created world (see Rom. 1:19), that is, from the visible works of creation, as a cause from its effects, and that, therefore, his existence can also be demonstrated: Secondly, I accept and acknowledge the external proofs of revelation, that is, divine acts and especially miracles and prophecies as the surest signs of the divine origin of the Christian religion and I hold that these same proofs are well adapted to the understanding of all eras and all men, even of this time. Thirdly, I believe with equally firm faith that the Church, the guardian and teacher of the revealed word, was personally instituted by the real and historical Christ when he lived among us, and that the Church was built upon Peter, the prince of the apostolic hierarchy, and his successors for the duration of time. Fourthly, I sincerely hold that the doctrine of faith was handed down to us from the apostles through the orthodox Fathers in exactly the same meaning and always in the same purport. Therefore, I entirely reject the heretical’ misrepresentation that dogmas evolve and change from one meaning to another different from the one which the Church held previously. I also condemn every error according to which, in place of the divine deposit which has been given to the spouse of Christ to be carefully guarded by her, there is put a philosophical figment or product of a human conscience that has gradually been developed by human effort and will continue to develop indefinitely. Fifthly, I hold with certainty and sincerely confess that faith is not a blind sentiment of religion welling up from the depths of the subconscious under the impulse of the heart and the motion of a will trained to morality; but faith is a genuine assent of the intellect to truth received by hearing from an external source. By this assent, because of the authority of the supremely truthful God, we believe to be true that which has been revealed and attested to by a personal God, our Creator and Lord.
Furthermore, with due reverence, I submit and adhere with my whole heart to the condemnations, declarations, and all the prescripts contained in the encyclical Pascendi and in the decree Lamentabili, especially those concerning what is known as the history of dogmas. I also reject the error of those who say that the faith held by the Church can contradict history, and that Catholic dogmas, in the sense in which they are now understood, are irreconcilable with a more realistic view of the origins of the Christian religion. I also condemn and reject the opinion of those who say that a well-educated Christian assumes a dual personality-that of a believer and at the same time of a historian, as if it were permissible for a historian to hold things that contradict the faith of the believer, or to establish premises which, provided there be no direct denial of dogmas, would lead to the conclusion that dogmas are either false or doubtful. Likewise, I reject that method of judging and interpreting Sacred Scripture which, departing from the tradition of the Church, the analogy of faith, and the norms of the Apostolic See, embraces the misrepresentations of the rationalists and with no prudence or restraint adopts textual criticism as the one and supreme norm. Furthermore, I reject the opinion of those who hold that a professor lecturing or writing on a historico-theological subject should first put aside any preconceived opinion about the supernatural origin of Catholic tradition or about the divine promise of help to preserve all revealed truth forever; and that they should then interpret the writings of each of the Fathers solely by scientific principles, excluding all sacred authority, and with the same liberty of judgment that is common in the investigation of all ordinary historical documents.
Finally, I declare that I am completely opposed to the error of the modernists who hold that there is nothing divine in sacred tradition; or what is far worse, say that there is, but in a pantheistic sense, with the result that there would remain nothing but this plain simple fact-one to be put on a par with the ordinary facts of history-the fact, namely, that a group of men by their own labor, skill, and talent have continued through subsequent ages a school begun by Christ and his apostles. I firmly hold, then, and shall hold to my dying breath the belief of the Fathers in the charism of truth, which certainly is, was, and always will be in the succession of the episcopacy from the apostles. The purpose of this is, then, not that dogma may be tailored according to what seems better and more suited to the culture of each age; rather, that the absolute and immutable truth preached by the apostles from the beginning may never be believed to be different, may never be understood in any other way.
I promise that I shall keep all these articles faithfully, entirely, and sincerely, and guard them inviolate, in no way deviating from them in teaching or in any way in word or in writing. Thus I promise, this I swear, so help me God. . .
wow this marx guy makes a lot of sense
What did Karl Marx say about Planned Obsolescence and the annual depreciation of automobiles?
It must not be important since economists do not talk about it today.
Present moment is money, power and virtual reality.
Dear Bishop, you commented that you were surprised that’s your previous video on these philosophers was so popular, so widely viewed. Isn’t that the perfect example of the free market at work? It’s not predictable but by golly(as you might say!) it’s (the free market) always right.
He is talking old-fashioned Cold War anti-communism.
You rock bishop 🙌
a helpful summary in an age when marxism is being resold, sometimes in the context of racial tension.
It is an incomplete summary. And, with all summaries, I recommend you read Marx to come up with your own summary and judgment.
Will Bishop B be doing a bit on Roe vs Wade revision.
These are interesting talks, and I appreciate them. However, I must admitted that I was distracted at the beginning by Bishop Barron referring to the Order of Malta as the "Knights of Malta." I have been a Dame of Malta since 2015, and I know that the Order of Malta has had women for many years now. Was the Bishop's talk intended only for the men in the Order of Malta? If not, then it would be good if Bishop Barron referred to us as the Order of Malta. Both men and men have the chance to serve the sick and the poor by being knights and dames within the Order. :)
We need more churchmen like yourself in this fight, for it is _The Fight of Our Lives._ Blessings!
Wow, Robert, that cleared up a lot. Thx. People need to give pure praise and glory to God for all the good He does. Period. Catholics have too many addictions/Gods: phone, entertainment, drugs, politics,, controlling others, and clericalism/putting humans on pedestals to name a few..
We have all the reforms and still an ever growing population of drug addicts controlling our cities via violence. We just need God, and each other.
@@elizabethkraszewski6603 we are to be separate from the world. Try it. Watching Barron on you tube isn't the same as watching stupid mindless low brow shit on the net.
A smart and nuanced treatment of Marxism. It's important he made the point the Church is not in favour of unfettered capitalism either. Not all Catholics realise this sadly. However, Is Bernie Sanders really that "socialist"? I wonder.
Bernie is literally considered a regular Democrat in any other part of the world.
I completely agree with you on that last remark. To not nee how Bernie Sanders is the only uncorrupted, honest and humble gem in the US Senate, is (to me) just a fatal lack of discernment, or an accidental show of political cards. Bernie Sanders as the radicalization of the democratic party...? Wow. This shows me that the church, in the end, is too conservative a bulwark, and too afraid to be radical and courageous (the way Jesus was), to ever be on the right side of history.
@Prasanth Thomas I'm not criticizing capitalism as such. It has obvious benefits in terms of general wealth creation. The sad reality is that human nature can have a tendency to not be as generous as the word of God recommends. Trade unions and activism for better wages and conditions also had a hand in reducing poverty in the west. The Church teaches against extremes at either end of the capitalism/socialism scale in the name of justice.
@@marktynan1472 i agree. I think unions are a natural phenomenom in a healthy capitalist (I prefer to call it free market) system. You want workers? You better treat them well.
@Prasanth Thomas out of poverty for who? I reject the royal we.
Excellent idea, Brandon! Excited for this series…I recall the Malta talk
God bless. I'm not patronizing or anything. There's a saying in my language, "fish go smelly from the head, downwards...." :)
I wrote a comment here twice, very intellectual on Father Rapp being Mr. Communism not Carl Marx. I was taken down twice, so much for American Democratic Free Speech's first unwritten rule, "We the People, agree to disagree." While here, I am 70 years old, I knew Archbishop Sheen before his death, he tried to save me from a case of alcoholism and wanted me to become a Catholic Priest. God Almighty saved me from my alcoholism, and then guided me and my life to become our Nation's, Templar Sherlock Holmes, crimefighter.
I hope when he “retires” he takes the time redo & release some of old seminary lectures, or other philosophy/theology talks. He opened many a door for me.
I listen to Fr. Chris Alar, MIC from the Shrine of Divine Mercy in Massachusetts who has been explaining our Faith from his seminary lectures. You might be interested. May you be blessed as you go deeper knowing our faith most especially knowing deep about our God. We have to be prepared to explain the truth of our faith.
This was a superb analysis. Well done!
Does the same apply to Christianity?
Bishop Barron is such a wealth of information. He is so interesting to listen to, with the gift of explaining the topic so I get it. Thank you.
Oh we still do the profit at all costs workplace at the expense of the health of the workers.
11:35 ease the pain ánd numbing them down. It is double.
I’m worried about the dualism that seems to pervade everything in current American society. I find myself thinking of the video about the Trinity you posted a couple of weeks ago, and wondering what “third element” might be introduced into the equation to bring things back into balance…
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X = richly complex with different roles to play.