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  • Danmachi Season 4 part 2 Episode 10
    Danmachi Season 4 part 2 Episode 10 english sub
    Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru no Darou ka IV: Fuka Shou - Yakusai-hen
    Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? IV Part 2
    #danmachi #danmachiseason4 #bellcranel #anime #ryu

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  • @yunantheobserver6841
    @yunantheobserver6841 Рік тому +1533

    This is the one time I look at the growing affection of a woman to a man in a harem anime and go. "Yeah, that's natural progression."

    • @ErectileSceptile
      @ErectileSceptile Рік тому +1

      Yeah they handled this surprisingly well. I feel like relationships usually form pretty jarringly in aniem, but this was just... natural.

    • @emperorlizZ
      @emperorlizZ Рік тому +40

      Ikr

    • @MrMoarpienao
      @MrMoarpienao День тому +3

      That suspension bridge effect went crazy, though I think they’re genuinely good for each other

  • @xakineko
    @xakineko Рік тому +2522

    Bell may be a level 3 adventurer but he's a level 10 rizz

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +181

      He’s level 4 here.

    • @nashokhaa3992
      @nashokhaa3992 Рік тому +19

      @@thatrabidpotato8800 wait is this s4 ep13?

    • @sasquatchhadarock968
      @sasquatchhadarock968 Рік тому

      Dude exudes 100% pure horny pheromones. It's surprising he hasn't been groped by a monst- waaaaait

    • @oatlegOnYt
      @oatlegOnYt Рік тому +10

      ​@@nashokhaa3992 It's the second to last episode of s4 if I remember well. 21? 22? I'm not sure how many episodes were.

    • @giovanirodriguezfelix5684
      @giovanirodriguezfelix5684 Рік тому

      Name of anime?

  • @elijahgrimm8052
    @elijahgrimm8052 Рік тому +1547

    This is why Belle is popular. He's sincere, thoughtful, truly cares about the people around him. He isn't doing things to impress anyone or get into their pants, or get their attention or affection. He does good for the fact that it's good, not because he stands to gain anything. As far as his "crush" on Ais goes, it's more admiration and a desire to be on her level. He is loved because his motives and mindset are pure. Untainted by lust, greed, jealousy, or selfish intent. The man is a hero.

    • @hamper6511
      @hamper6511 Рік тому +56

      The gods love their pure bois untainted until ripe for collection if ya know wat im sayin
      HUEHUEHEUUEHEUEHEUHEUEHUE

    • @inourcingdisk2104
      @inourcingdisk2104 Рік тому +43

      He does act selfish, but as in for the sake of someone, like so many times in the series people told him not to do something because it's dangerous for everybody, but he'll still go save that one girl. So I'd also argue it's mainly plot armor that he got so many girls, but I do like his kindness to everyone and the scenes he led us to see if you know what I mean.

    • @imjustlikedenji5954
      @imjustlikedenji5954 Рік тому +28

      @@inourcingdisk2104 I think the best example was in 3rd season with Weine and why i loved it so much.
      Up until then it didn't feel like Bell's ideals were challenged all that much but that time he tarnished his own reputation(and his familia's too), put his friends and innocent people that had nothing to do with it at risk.
      And there was the aspect of, yeah, the monsters may be acting nice but who's to say they'd actually never hurt anyone? Bell did not know for sure that what he was doing was right, so he had to either follow logic or his heart.

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +13

      Bell repeatedly says he loves Ais. His skill flat out says it runs off him being in love. Don’t lie to people.

    • @hentaiprotag7122
      @hentaiprotag7122 Рік тому +2

      And when I try to do the same I get laughed on

  • @xSHIELDBREAKERx82
    @xSHIELDBREAKERx82 Рік тому +863

    Bless Ryu's heart. She literally hates herself so much that she doesn't think she is gorgeous at all. It is good to be humble but this; this is self deprication. She needed Bell to give it to her straight and boy did he ever.

    • @teddyfot692
      @teddyfot692 Рік тому +31

      I can give her something straight if she wants to

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Рік тому +24

      Phrasing

    • @kitsunemesis
      @kitsunemesis 7 місяців тому

      ​​​@@teddyfot692i hope i can too 😔

    • @RodrigoSoar3s
      @RodrigoSoar3s 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@teddyfot692bro😭

    • @derblaue
      @derblaue 5 місяців тому +9

      Self-deprecation? Did you mean elf-deprecation?

  • @RuBuNsGo
    @RuBuNsGo Рік тому +276

    1:51 love the angry face becouse Bell unintentionally insulted her saying "she didn't change". She changed she is aware of that, she loves him. Being naked holding each other for an elf is as intimate as sex or kisses.

    • @kitsunemesis
      @kitsunemesis 7 місяців тому +3

      Fr? Daym you made Elves looks easy

    • @RuBuNsGo
      @RuBuNsGo 7 місяців тому +17

      @@kitsunemesis Quite the opposite in fact. Elves affection showing in this univers is either all or nothning there is no grey area. You can be friends with an elf for a decade yet if you try to touch their hand they would snap your wrist saying only "dear friends can do that".

    • @kitsunemesis
      @kitsunemesis 7 місяців тому +1

      @@RuBuNsGo hmm.. what makes you fit their criteria to be the choosen one?

    • @RuBuNsGo
      @RuBuNsGo 7 місяців тому +18

      @@kitsunemesis Not sure since there is only shown like 4 elves who fell in love with another race.
      - Filvis in love with her god Dionisius for helping her and sacrificing for her.
      - Ryuu who has a 6th sense for kind people. Since only 4 people were able to touch her hand. Bell, Alise, Syr(special case) and Skati Varna's little sister. All extremily kind, caring and cheerful people.
      - Eina Tulle's Mother: Fell in love with a farmer who took care of her when she got sick despite the harsh treatment received from her and Riveria.
      - Elf from Hermes Familia: Fell in love with Bell after he saved her in the dungeon from a reinforced version monster. Got scared away by Ryuu when she tried to invite him on a date.
      Basically not having pervert thoughts, be kind, pure, be hard worker and of course not be a hairy dwarf (they unreasonably hate them)
      Fun Fact: Danmachi Elfs tend to have small breasts becouse of a veggies diet only and hate consuming meat and fish. Thats stated when Lefiya in her training in the dungeon note herself more tired and losing weight in dangerous levels, so she force herself into eating meat to compensate and Tiona screamed at her becouse her bust increased a lot in 1 month.

    • @kitsunemesis
      @kitsunemesis 7 місяців тому +6

      @@RuBuNsGo thank you very much, you're awesome for remembering and describing it with comprehensible words. Truly a certified Danmachi enjoyer

  • @rukh397
    @rukh397 Рік тому +86

    my boy finally picked up a girl in the Dungeon

    • @HaxeRain
      @HaxeRain 3 місяці тому +5

      Second one actually, first was Wyene the monster girl

    • @maurice-ednt1215
      @maurice-ednt1215 14 днів тому +2

      ​@@HaxeRainshe is a child

  • @markusscheinhardt8874
    @markusscheinhardt8874 Рік тому +448

    In the LN, all these scenes were written from her perspective and explaining her feelings in those moments. This is obviously a way for the reader to truly feel with her and see, that her love for him is genuine and not superficial and therefore it should be easy for each one to feel with and cheer for her.
    Just started reading from Volume 1 once again. Obviously, Ryu is 100% the girl that Bell was looking for from the start - a beautiful elf, being saved by him in the dungeon, really nice person, helping him all the time and so on. She is the perfect match for Bell in every way. He is just not yet ready to fully understand it by now.
    He might have deep affection, admiration and even a heavy crush on Ais, but a crush is not genuine love. And yes, she likes him very much, too. But in all the books I did not see a single hint of any romantic feelings on her side, besides being addicted to giving him lap pillows and cuddling his hair. But she would do the same to her little brother. After reading all of SO I do really like Ais and fully support their friendship "plus". But she does not seem to be waifu material at all. Just imagine being married to a woman with such devastatingly awful communication skills. There is no way that could work in reality! But of coure, Omori will decide in the end.
    Btw. Ais might have been the trigger to develop his skill, but as I understand it that does not necessarily mean that his crush needs to last to use it. As long as he wholeheartedly strives to archive his goals (being a hero, saving the xenos, ...) that should be sufficient.

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +12

      Why are people this delusional? It's outright spelled out that he loves Ais. It's not some "crush", it's love. The kanji for the skill's name literally translate as "being in love". Hestia and Freya spell it out, Bell himself makes it clear so many times, to think he doesn't actually love Ais is simply being willfully blind.

    • @minalinskygames1399
      @minalinskygames1399 Рік тому +41

      @@thatrabidpotato8800 bro, stop being a wet blanket. This is just a fictional story.

    • @1vanDrago
      @1vanDrago Рік тому +31

      Dude out here writing a thesis... 💀 I suggest paying a visit to the grass nearest you

    • @markusscheinhardt8874
      @markusscheinhardt8874 Рік тому +31

      ​@@thatrabidpotato8800 I know about the kanji of his skill - so what?
      Yeah, sure Bell is "in love". Are you a great expert on this topic? As we all know, all 14 year old teenagers exactly understand everything about their own feelings and when they have feelings for someone it is the one and only true love but never just a crush. This 14 year old boy fell "in love" with a powerful mysterious beauty head over heels when she saved his life - a long time before they talked with each other for the first time. He blushes almost each time they talk und both are hardly able to say anything important for various reasons even after spending lots of time together for months. Even after 6 months Bell knows hardly anything about Aiz because she tells him almost nothing personal. And when Bell tried to have a real conversation with her on a difficult topic (Xenos) she did not want to listen to him and just felt like he suddendly is so far away...
      How do you dare to speak of love when one does hardly know the other person?
      That is imo just a wonderful example for a superficial heavy crush on his side.
      Compared to that Ryu is so much closer to him from the start. Just consider her understanding reaction after he peeked on her on Level 18. He told her the truth and she trusted him right away, although she hardly knew him at that point. And then she even told him a lot about her dark past, giving him the chance to see who she really is. That's a foundation for a lasting relationship.

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +4

      @@markusscheinhardt8874 *It is outright stated that Bell is in love with Ais*. You are attempting to apply flawed real world logic, twisting everything into a pretzel, simply because you want your personal waifu to win. It does not matter whether you think a 14 year old should "know what true love is". BELL DOES. THE STORY SAYS HE DOES. PERIOD. The skill does not lie, it's literally a reflection of his soul. It is not a "crush". It is real, genuine, true love because infallible sources in and out of universe say it is.
      You're also twisting the story to conveniently leave out things favorable to Ais. Ais DID end up listening to Bell regarding the Xenos, though it was extremely difficult because, you know, that's what her entire life for the past ten years has revolved around (killing monsters). The whole reason Bell and Wiene are still breathing is because she eventually relented.
      And Ryu is better because... her reaction to Bell seeing her naked in Volume 5? What, you mean how her first reaction was to attempt to kill him? On the other hand, Ais wasn't hostile at all. No, Ais didn't then have a long conversation with him... BECAUSE BELL RAN AWAY. With Lefiya chasing him and attempting to literally murder him.
      Why does every single Ryu zealot do this? It's literally the same arguments from every one of you, with the same ignorance of the source material, the same flawed logic, the same bias, the same delusions. Do you have a common handbook of arguments?

  • @pauloazuela8488
    @pauloazuela8488 Рік тому +174

    That "really" sounds like he wasn't embarrassed for the skin contact but rather felt uneasy for Ryu about the elf thing so he's being considerate. My boi is ready to jump whenever an opportunity comes ofc with consent

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Рік тому +5

      If that was true he wouldn’t have legged it when the amazons caught him

    • @deeznuts9886
      @deeznuts9886 Рік тому +18

      ​@@dionjaywoollaston1349 don't forget the words "with consent."

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Рік тому

      @@deeznuts9886 they all gave him their consent

    • @deeznuts9886
      @deeznuts9886 Рік тому +14

      @@dionjaywoollaston1349 they definitely still tried to rape him though. Just cause they gave consent doesn't mean he did

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Рік тому

      @@deeznuts9886 to be fair he was walking around the red light district with an aphrodisiac, consent is kinda implied in that situation and hard to deny

  • @clauvex7829
    @clauvex7829 Рік тому +96

    Well...they certainly take the phrase "In another life..." quite at heart in this situation.

  • @Daniel-sc3fr
    @Daniel-sc3fr Рік тому +117

    Wish they end up becoming husband and wife in future

    • @kitsunemesis
      @kitsunemesis 7 місяців тому +3

      I second this. Anyways, did the LN or manga finished already?

    • @RuBuNsGo
      @RuBuNsGo 7 місяців тому +5

      @@kitsunemesis Light novel still in process finishing volume 19 Bell goes to school district meets the god Baldur and makes Eina Tulle's little sister fell in love with him.

    • @RuBuNsGo
      @RuBuNsGo 7 місяців тому +26

      In volumen 18 Ryuu confess her love for Bell. But Bell remained silent not knowing what to answer, Ryuu then changed the subject saying she will join Hestia familia and wait for his answer. It is funny becouse Ryuu discovers that 99% of the girls have feelings for him including the goddess and all try to spite her advances towards him. Ryuu stated "If I didn't know you, I will thought you are the worst"

    • @FaisalHanif-q7r
      @FaisalHanif-q7r 6 місяців тому +5

      @@RuBuNsGoso does she end up joining the hestia familia? Or does she give up on her feelings for him?

    • @RuBuNsGo
      @RuBuNsGo 6 місяців тому +9

      @@FaisalHanif-q7r She in the novels is already in Hestia familia and is activily trying to won Bell's affection. In fact she always tries to acompany Bell anywhere, unless Bell or Hestia tell her otherwise.

  • @gyul6380
    @gyul6380 Рік тому +78

    "Feelings of relatedness and affection"
    Nah Bro that's just bell feeling ryu

  • @samengelage3521
    @samengelage3521 3 місяці тому +16

    Dear god, why is the best relationship development I've seen in any anime in the last five years (at least) coming from a friggin' harem anime?! Just... how? How is it that an author who initially wrote their mc getting pulled around by hungry milf's in the first few chapters, manages to create one of the best ships of the decade? People should be studying this phenomenon.

  • @stephaneosaiyuwu6808
    @stephaneosaiyuwu6808 Рік тому +46

    Congrats for her. She's one of the female protagonists to get closer to rabbit boy.

    • @amiraashraf6394
      @amiraashraf6394 6 місяців тому

      Anime name?

    • @ussenterprisecv6805
      @ussenterprisecv6805 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@amiraashraf6394danmachi. Or Is it wrong to pick up girls in the dungeon? Both names are technically correct.

  • @Hawi_Samuel
    @Hawi_Samuel 3 місяці тому +7

    She's the best girl in this anime, PERIOD. Anyone who saw the 4th season knows how incredible this romance was, I even cried thinking she was going to die, AND I DON'T CRY ABOUT ANIMES

  • @madness682
    @madness682 7 місяців тому +18

    Almost been a year, forgot how peak it was.
    Time for a rewatch I guess.

    • @ToTwarozek
      @ToTwarozek 7 місяців тому

      Just wait for season 5

  • @pruvvv333
    @pruvvv333 3 місяці тому +5

    Ryu is probably the only character in this harem that has a reasonable love for Bell, he was so kind,caring and thoughtful to her and he didn't even comsider abandoning her in such a dire situation.

  • @darklegion3693
    @darklegion3693 Рік тому +172

    Bell and Ais? Who's that? Must have hit your head pretty hard man. It's Bell and Ryu don't you remember?

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +3

      Nope, it’s Ais. Read the books.

    • @nestpaul356
      @nestpaul356 Рік тому +35

      Ais the walking wall is the most boring anime character in history. If only the writers see this.

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +8

      @@nestpaul356 Ais is only boring because the anime cut all her emotions

    • @nestpaul356
      @nestpaul356 Рік тому +27

      @@thatrabidpotato8800 even in LN she's boring.

    • @thatrabidpotato8800
      @thatrabidpotato8800 Рік тому +4

      @@nestpaul356 That's how I know you either didn't pay attention, didn't read Sword Oratoria, or likely both.

  • @Itzfrost8879
    @Itzfrost8879 Рік тому +32

    Bell is the Rizzler of Oz. And Yet He stayed Humble.

  • @djagadkurniansyah2134
    @djagadkurniansyah2134 Рік тому +87

    Bell's rizz is just absolute, just like his gramps 😂

    • @geraldushimawan8269
      @geraldushimawan8269 10 місяців тому +6

      He's Zeus grandson alright😤.....bro Rizz is immaculate

    • @toniotrussardi8126
      @toniotrussardi8126 9 місяців тому +6

      @@geraldushimawan8269 zeus rizzed up the whole animal kigdom including the monsters

    • @geraldushimawan8269
      @geraldushimawan8269 9 місяців тому

      @@toniotrussardi8126 Bro got his grandpapi rizz game on lock

  • @gimme1928
    @gimme1928 Рік тому +67

    i want both of them together

  • @readyone-xz
    @readyone-xz 9 місяців тому +19

    Me encanta el hecho de que esta escena no este nada sexualizada como en la mayoría de otros animes, esta tan bien hecha y el ambiente super bien construido, en general esta temporada fue increíble y plasmaron a la perfección ese sentimiento de desesperación por sobrevivir.

  • @luisemoralesfalcon4716
    @luisemoralesfalcon4716 10 місяців тому +8

    What I understood from this scene is as follows: two people in a life or death situation and one of them.has lived in a trauma and someone finally reaches out to help them to deal with the issues.

  • @vepxx5762
    @vepxx5762 Рік тому +20

    I never expected she would also love bell

    • @theguynooneremembers1148
      @theguynooneremembers1148 Рік тому +1

      Wow

    • @monst3r54
      @monst3r54 Рік тому +3

      You do know that this anime had a genre of harem right

    • @vepxx5762
      @vepxx5762 9 місяців тому

      ​@@monst3r54yeh but i thought she will not love hum because she always had a angry mood in her mind

  • @SennaDzo
    @SennaDzo 8 місяців тому +8

    In reality. If a male and female ended up in this kind of situation. They probably be planning about their grandchildren's future by now.

  • @ryanplogimon9376
    @ryanplogimon9376 Рік тому +18

    Super love this moment there are both cute when they are shy ryu san so kawaii ❤

  • @immagoingbacktobed1742
    @immagoingbacktobed1742 Рік тому +65

    :| Near the end all I could think about is "Kinda wish we didn't have to listen to her inner monologue and they just let the art carry the emotions."

  • @RuneToi
    @RuneToi 4 місяці тому +2

    I don't even care what becomes cannon anymore, I just want her to be happy.

  • @devilmaycry2345
    @devilmaycry2345 Рік тому +12

    If he crossed the line i would be hype

  • @mattimeister1100
    @mattimeister1100 10 місяців тому +7

    I like Ais but they keep adding so many more love interests that I like💀

  • @Joker-pz6nr
    @Joker-pz6nr Рік тому +176

    Ryu best girl of the series and this moment was like the best in the season. Bell showed a side of himself that yeah Ryu is a very powerful experience adventurer but also saw that she is more then just that. She is a beautiful elf woman.

  • @OrangeCatEatSalmon
    @OrangeCatEatSalmon Рік тому +47

    I will just stop here for my ship. I don't care who is Ais.

  • @a1pha_star
    @a1pha_star Рік тому +229

    Ais who? 🤣

  • @Cheeseybeaver45
    @Cheeseybeaver45 Рік тому +7

    He needs to listen to his grandpa and get him some Ryu lol

  • @shisuiuchiha5683
    @shisuiuchiha5683 Рік тому +16

    Bell is such a awesome mc

  • @CTK017
    @CTK017 2 місяці тому +2

    At first I shipped Bell x Ais
    After the movie ita Bell x Artemis
    After season 4 and learned more about it its Bell x Ryu all the way (and overall even fits Bell's interest)
    Although I think Ais part of story is yet to come where Bell fight/enlighten with her etc and help her defeat her nightmare/worst enemy and become her hero

  • @Noobz1026
    @Noobz1026 Рік тому +2

    “Bell? What’s this thing on my back?”

  • @SanOcelotl
    @SanOcelotl Рік тому +9

    Instant best girl after this season

  • @Sugarist0
    @Sugarist0 Рік тому +15

    Now if this was a true modern harem, bros about to ditch the girl with proper development and go out with someone else

  • @SKULLTHEWIZARD
    @SKULLTHEWIZARD 9 місяців тому +1

    Literally only watch this anime for the first season and the second didn't even realize there was a fourth

  • @profility
    @profility 10 місяців тому +11

    Please tell me Bell ends up with Ryu cause they really spent an entire season developing their relationship 😭

    • @jaredhamilton425
      @jaredhamilton425 9 місяців тому +2

      Danmachi has yet to end, although,
      Spoilers:
      Hopefully it’ll get animated in season 5, but in the war game against Freya, Ryuu actually confesses to him, but is willing to wait for his answer.

    • @pingunata
      @pingunata 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jaredhamilton425Fuck this LN authors. Using these lovely interaction with the best girl Ryuu only to make her lose, shit on her. We all fucking know Ais is gonna be chosen in the end.

    • @yurimendes5299
      @yurimendes5299 8 місяців тому

      ​@@pingunataBro, I think it could be other people like the goddess Freya trying to dominate Bell or Ryu too, we don't know yet the authors are still doing it🤷

  • @sungomomonyu-ep5vv
    @sungomomonyu-ep5vv 7 місяців тому

    Bro is calling us single in 100 different ways

  • @midnightdusk5037
    @midnightdusk5037 7 місяців тому +1

    They definitely did this scene justice~. But if you want a bonus, read this part of the story in the light novel. It's heartwarming intimacy at its finest. I think my favorite line from it was something along the lines of "and their heartbeats became one." Been a while since I last read, so I'm paraphrasing.

    • @Porsche911turb0S
      @Porsche911turb0S 2 місяці тому

      Tell me the volume and chapter number for god's sake

  • @AyatoSakamaki-e6e
    @AyatoSakamaki-e6e 10 місяців тому +3

    "Feelings of relatedness and affection"Then proceeds to count on her own
    Nah Bro that's just bell feeling ryu

  • @jeremy123577
    @jeremy123577 Рік тому +3

    It sadly because scene like this probably lead nowhere and ryu will probably be sideline

  • @xxdr_deadlyxx4481
    @xxdr_deadlyxx4481 Рік тому +5

    1:18 they let a nip slip happend only noticed after rewatching while im drinking 😂

    • @LewdEve
      @LewdEve Рік тому

      Damn i never notice that

    • @igrok5843
      @igrok5843 Рік тому

      What they did?.. (sorry, English is not my first language)

    • @kobiemeggs9333
      @kobiemeggs9333 5 днів тому

      It’s the jacket

  • @lain-valhalla
    @lain-valhalla 2 місяці тому

    Ryu words are hitting my heart💘

  • @scrawnyclownsnatch9656
    @scrawnyclownsnatch9656 Місяць тому

    God this show is so underrated. Pretty sure the tile puts alot of people off as they just assume its another Harem Highschool DxD knockoff but it is actually soooo good.
    the action, the magic system, the world building, the characters the story's involving them and then the actual romance is good. Not just cringe fanservice but actual relationship building that feels natural. It might be a "harem" show on a technicality, but its the first one I've watch that actually is a little realistic in its execution with an MC that works good with it.

  • @raiden_from_metal_gear
    @raiden_from_metal_gear 7 місяців тому

    even if the author(s)/writer(s) shatter our hopes and dreams, we will still know it true in our hearts

  • @harshblog-df8km
    @harshblog-df8km Рік тому +7

    awesome as always

  • @Nodjia
    @Nodjia Рік тому +24

    I think it's a cultural thing, but I often find these sorts of scenes to be written from a weirdly immature place. Don't get me wrong, I like the sentiment, and I like that we get to see bonding between characters, but there are certain things that make it feel more... contrived for me. The reason I say this is that there is always this trope of nudity, and awkwardness, and "oh I'm not looking" but "I want to make excuses to be close to them" going on. And it is almost always written in a way that there are some aspects that just don't make sense because censorship requires the writer and animators to be 'safe', for example all our clothes are soaked, we are threatened by hypothermia, but we're still going to wear pants because we don't want to risk a higher rating for this one scene. I'm not saying they should 'lewd' the characters, I'm just saying there is a lot of pretense that goes into making these characters feel vulnerable when normally they can punch down steel walls, throw fireballs powerful enough to kill demigods, and survive 100 foot falls into raging subterranean rapids. I guess in a weird way, their physical/magical capabilities far exceed their emotional maturity, which feels a bit odd for people who literally risk their lives and lose comrades (experience death) in a dungeon environment.
    I think part of the disconnect for me comes from the comedy that always seems to worm into the writing for these kinds of scenes, it's an old overdone trope. I feel like it would be more compelling to _have_ the characters 'look', to acknowledge each other as more than just their bodies, to show that their concern and feelings for one another overcomes a silly sense of shame and arousal, and accept that they can be nude in front of one another without it becoming a joke. "I'm shaking, it's cold... but more than that I want... I need you to hold me. I don't want to feel alone right now." Instead of something mature like that, something direct, we get this wishy-washy back and forth where they keep making excuses. Some more adult shows incorporate scenes like this with little dialogue, instead letting the characters actions and directness speak for itself, which I find to be more powerful scenes overall.
    It's sort of a stirring pot of all the things that go into a "will they, won't they" stew designed more to titillate the audience than it is to expand the depth of the characters themselves. From my perspective, this is sort of a crutch for the writing to allow them to discuss feelings and develop intimacy, which could be done with a more mature tone rather than making excuses. It's fine for characters to not be emotionally mature enough to be direct with their feelings and communicate them well, but it is sort of weird when a life threatening situation is just an excuse to get the characters close together.

    • @williamjaramillo5105
      @williamjaramillo5105 Рік тому +5

      But this anime isn’t an “adult show”. Despite some of the scenes in the show, Danmachi is, by all intents and purposes, a show directed toward 15-20 year old males. If you are to hold this type of show to the same standards as an actual adult show, then do the same for kid shows. Not to mention, a lot of your so called “adult shows” have just as contrived dialogue that you probably don’t realize is there because you aren’t reading captions with the dialogue.

    • @Nodjia
      @Nodjia Рік тому +4

      @@williamjaramillo5105 I mean, if you don't consider a 20 year old an adult, I am not really sure how to address that. But to your point of holding children's shows to an adult level, let's use Bluey as an example that handles it's content with emotional maturity.
      For reference Bluey is a children's show targeted at 4 to 10 year olds, about a family of anthropomorphized dogs in Australia. The show mostly follows the titular character, a young girl dog, her younger sister and day to day activities with her family and school.
      Bluey's content tackles issues like empathy, trust, learning to acknowledge others sense of self, being considerate of others (and your own) limitations, and patience and it approaches them with a level of emotional maturity that is extremely rare among shows directed at very young children. The children experience new situations and learn to make decisions and think about the consequences of their actions and how they might make others feel, and it does this in a charming and organic way that isn't just sing-song nonsense and slapstick routines. If we compare the level of complexity, the types of issues that are encountered and the developmental benefits of engaging with Bluey to say... any of the 3d Mickey Mouse cartoons targeted at the same age group, the difference is night and day. In that instance Mickey and friends are empty calories compared to the rich meal that is Bluey.
      So when you say I should hold 'kids shows' to the same standard as 'adult shows', my point is that I do that already. I get exposed to a lot of different shows from my family and I watch anime with my niece and nephew. Not all shows handle things well, and as far as this scene goes it does the job of conveying how uncomfortable these two are with being direct and with nudity. I just find that it feels awkward to require this much "set up" for characters to develope a sense of intimacy, and a bit disappointing that they don't have the self confidence despite their obvious capabilities to express their feelings without these circumstance.
      I'm not attacking danmachi, nor am I insulting the fan base. Though I think you might have taken my comment that way, since you are randomly attacking "adult shows" in general or my ability to read captions. I am just pointing out that it is very weird that this instance of intimacy, vulnerability and openness comes paired with a contrived set up and the often over used nudity tropes, which are a mix of 'this is awkward comedy' and 'will they won't they' titillation for the audience.
      As you say, the show is directed at adolescent males, and it's a power-fantasy setting, so I'm not exactly expecting a complete shift of tone to adult behavior. I am just pointing out that it's sort of weird that these characters, who _are adults_ by the standards of their own world are so flustered by the concept of huddling to stay warm while their clothes dry. I mean, they engage in life or death fights every day, serious injuries, maiming and even the topic of murdering sentient creatures is touched on in the show, so it feels odd that all that violence doesn't register even a little bit toward the maturity level that should be present just because "boobies exist". The elf is literally not wearing any less than the belly dancer themed sword chick does on the regular.
      Bear in mind, I'm a lot older than the target audience, and I grew up in a very rural area where it was not uncommon for lots of us (as kids) to go skinny dipping in the lake together, so nudity was never a big deal growing up. Anyone who got all pervy at such events was usually treated as a weirdo and shunned by the rest of the community at large. So like I said, it's probably a cultural thing, where they need these excuses to be naked without having the universe shatter due to the embarrassment of it all.

    • @alfa563
      @alfa563 Рік тому +4

      IIRC the scene was written during the writer's bad time (his girlfriend broke up with him and as a coping mechanism wrote whatever happened during this) so he definitely wasn't immature when writing this in the light novel.

    • @novacisefitch7320
      @novacisefitch7320 8 місяців тому

      Sadly this anime is not on that level~ i couldn't bare this show after S1.. I can only imagine how awesome this show would be if it carried the same weight as Made in Abyss..

  • @SanjiNamiVinsmoke
    @SanjiNamiVinsmoke 10 місяців тому +4

    Mushoku Tensei season 2 can relate to this lmao

  • @AzraelYRZ
    @AzraelYRZ 20 днів тому

    It's kinda late but these two definitely look more good together than the other girls

  • @Demonaire
    @Demonaire 7 місяців тому

    Ryu, you promised to protect Bell's chastity...

  • @papabonedaddy4116
    @papabonedaddy4116 Рік тому +14

    Dude when I read this chapter I became a huge shipper of RyuxBell. I was like who’s Ais? Who’s Hestia?

  • @Gtboy_Editz
    @Gtboy_Editz Рік тому +1

    He has that unspoken rizz

  • @haraa09
    @haraa09 6 днів тому

    best season so far

  • @abdulnassertuaima5005
    @abdulnassertuaima5005 Рік тому +3

    Perfect anime continue my broo ❤🔥🔥🔥💪😎

  • @premiumheadpats4150
    @premiumheadpats4150 16 днів тому

    Ooowee. His goddess would be mad as hell if she could see that. 😂

  • @0zeft
    @0zeft Рік тому +1

    your telling me these two are NOT THE ENDGAME?!

  • @mashrurkabirriyan5182
    @mashrurkabirriyan5182 Рік тому +2

    Its always these innocent lookin mfs im anime that turn out to be rizz monsters

  • @YourMindsetDeveloper
    @YourMindsetDeveloper Рік тому +1

    Only for this scene I watched out the whole anime season 😮‍💨

  • @jonlava173
    @jonlava173 Рік тому +1

    You mean to say... as in s*x?…
    To Hell with this. I'm gonna live!
    -Ryu almost channeling Kaylee Frye from Serenity the Movie

  • @dc1397
    @dc1397 6 місяців тому

    You put Ryu in a white dress with some heels and she turns from one of the fastest individuals in the series to the slowest.
    But, in her defense, she was recovering from injuries.

  • @JOSIA_710
    @JOSIA_710 3 місяці тому

    YUGI: "IT SHOULD OF BEEN ME"

  • @jordangonzalez4473
    @jordangonzalez4473 Рік тому +1

    What a chad😂 bro is pissed 😅

  • @Dinotremonde
    @Dinotremonde 16 днів тому

    Hestia: Il a fait QUOI DANS CE DONJON? BEEEEELLLL

  • @Dell-ol6hb
    @Dell-ol6hb 5 місяців тому

    Like the only time in a harem anime where it actually makes sense that the woman would be attracted to the man, this actually feels realistic

  • @kakulidutta9573
    @kakulidutta9573 6 місяців тому

    This is so lovely and romantic scene❤❤❤❤

  • @isakandersenjohansen212
    @isakandersenjohansen212 3 місяці тому

    I can’t imagine what Hestia would say and do if see knew that they had a skin-to-skin contact even though it was so that they wouldn’t freeze to death.

  • @aki12569
    @aki12569 Рік тому +3

    She really was wearing underwear under her underwear 😅😂

  • @laldingnghetigenesis6498
    @laldingnghetigenesis6498 Рік тому +3

    There are very cute couple

  • @stephenhobbs5883
    @stephenhobbs5883 8 місяців тому

    I know bells a 🐐 but I would really like to see him and Ryu admit they have feelings even if they don't act on them

  • @theodorehazel6920
    @theodorehazel6920 Рік тому +1

    oh god i needa get hulu i miss this anime so much

  • @ramensalad6100
    @ramensalad6100 Рік тому +5

    Don't know why but this arc ended way too soon for me

  • @ملكالاوتاكو-ظ1ح
    @ملكالاوتاكو-ظ1ح Рік тому +1

    私はこれが好き

  • @ArthurMurgan7
    @ArthurMurgan7 Рік тому +2

    Anime name : Bro take Girls to Dungeon and take Advantage of her😂😂

  • @animedevilshub1792
    @animedevilshub1792 Рік тому +5

    i love it

  • @Iamarobot_
    @Iamarobot_ 6 місяців тому +1

    Now I want them together more than that ains valentine girl

  • @小学生かもしれない
    @小学生かもしれない 16 днів тому

    マジで死んじゃうんじゃないかってここ怖かったわ

  • @cholomackdaddy
    @cholomackdaddy Рік тому

    Man has to beat the python away with a stick. Lol

  • @LanaLana-zf7ws
    @LanaLana-zf7ws Рік тому +1

    Bell RIZZLER is actually the name

  • @jimmy-jh6tk
    @jimmy-jh6tk 7 місяців тому +1

    just got back from reading latest chapter, the author made ryu if alternate (spolier):
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    in the story Ryu kissed bell before confronting juggernaut for the last time, bell fall for her because of this, at the end they survived however bell feel like he betrayed ais which make his realis phrase skill deactivated. bell can no longer growth like he does before which mean hes no longer a hero candidate. in the near future when the dragon strike everyone die 💀
    as the consequence of choosing ryu, it seems like everyone grown cold of bell, turn out deep down they all prefer bell to go for ais including hestia.
    its just depressing really.

  • @Peak_Insanity
    @Peak_Insanity Рік тому +7

    Ryu is much more better than Ais...
    Gets slap by an Ais simp
    Me pulls my magnum and aims

  • @noble_wine
    @noble_wine 7 днів тому

    Ryu is a honest gal.

  • @gilotina7337
    @gilotina7337 Рік тому +2

    All i want in life

  • @robertchapman7451
    @robertchapman7451 2 місяці тому

    Ok a son of zuse powering up cuz he has best babe makes a lot of sense

  • @Asura2k
    @Asura2k Рік тому +1

    Damn. I thought it something interesting but they are very very shy children.

    • @luisemoralesfalcon4716
      @luisemoralesfalcon4716 10 місяців тому

      Ryuu is 21 which, in elf terms, is a young and Bell is 14 while Aiz is 16. Lili is actually 15.

  • @3characterhandlerequired
    @3characterhandlerequired Рік тому +1

    Of course Crunchy doesn't have this season. I need to again go high seas to see this. I would like to not to, but not having any other option have to.

  • @jenniferquidachay3105
    @jenniferquidachay3105 7 місяців тому

    I will say it again. Raphael is way better. If they had kids. The girl would have white hair with green eyes. The boy black hair with red eyes... priceless. She should go for Raphael... save him from the priest hood. That is her salvation

  • @justsomeguywithasandwich5906
    @justsomeguywithasandwich5906 Рік тому +3

    Bell true power is rizz

  • @oye4103
    @oye4103 5 місяців тому

    *[ best girl detected ]*

  • @lain-valhalla
    @lain-valhalla 2 місяці тому

    Season 1 hestia
    After some ep. AIZ
    Season 2 freya
    Season 3 weine
    Movie artemis
    Season 4 Ryu
    My choice is changing in every season 😂

    • @Polishi-gc5vl
      @Polishi-gc5vl 28 днів тому

      Believe me, from the next seasons... There is a chance that you will not even think about Freya as an option....

  • @johnvillanueva7486
    @johnvillanueva7486 Рік тому +2

    It takes 10B calories of man power to not succumb to bed scene

    • @hypersoldier01
      @hypersoldier01 Рік тому

      People who stay unfazed and does not give a crap about it then just does it for the sake of their safety (the hug method) : 🗿👌

  • @lonestarlopez713
    @lonestarlopez713 Рік тому +1

    She the one

  • @middedasde
    @middedasde 9 місяців тому

    All i need now is a brutal segs

  • @Chledare2024
    @Chledare2024 5 місяців тому +1

    Level 10 rizz

  • @langbo9999
    @langbo9999 Рік тому

    Bell the ladies man and gentleman.

    • @nourhishdb5353
      @nourhishdb5353 Рік тому

      name anime?

    • @langbo9999
      @langbo9999 Рік тому

      @@nourhishdb5353 It is wrong peking up girls in a dungeon.

  • @AstaIsAMonster
    @AstaIsAMonster 4 місяці тому +1

    Manga or novel readers who died bell end up with or has a romantic interest at least with in the latest issue?

    • @Polishi-gc5vl
      @Polishi-gc5vl 28 днів тому

      The work is not finished yet, so Bell is not with anyone yet. There is still a long way to go.

    • @shiggy7612
      @shiggy7612 3 години тому

      She confessed during the new season and in the latest volume they both act shyly around each other

  • @khaidarfebrianto209
    @khaidarfebrianto209 Рік тому

    Best eps ever

  • @trueneutralmage
    @trueneutralmage 5 місяців тому

    Ryu and Bell!!!!