It's a sad comparison that people that don't understand investments use. Most cars are not good for investments, but there are some, and for those people I get it. Most people that can afford high end cars that increase in value, can afford multiple other daily drivers. They could also afford to modify whatever they want, so its whatever. People can do whatever the fuck they want.
Right but on a car like this you aren’t returning any money for a long period of time. So if you’re fine with having a car sit in your garage for the next 30 years before selling it then maybe you’ll have a point. The comparison is just a demonstration of concepts because obviously a girl’s pussy isn’t remotely the same as a car and as such is a bit like apples to oranges but y’all just can’t take it for the concept and have to be 100% accurate all the time because it’s youtube.
"Cars are an investment" lose my shit everytime you could be driving it when some drunk person decides to not stop into the back of you and total your "investment". Ill never make that mistake again.
You're right, dude. 800 crank from a 520hp engine is barely a 50% increase in stress. Crankshafts are a rigidity item more than a fatigue item. It'll be fine. If that engine has 2" mains, and the crank is made of nodular iron that elongates 8% at fracture, the crank will have to flex 0.12" before anything happens. You'll fuck up the mains before the crank ever breaks. Last I checked, those have forged steel cranks or some shit. Drive the goddamn fuck out of it. The fatigue limit takes like 10 million cycles to reach. That engine would have to sit there in a dyno cell, at 9800 RPM, and 12 PSI for 17 hours non-stop in order to trigger a fatigue failure, and that's only if the goddamn engine was optimized that close anyway. You can hold the car WOT for 30 seconds 2000 times. That's five times a day, for almost 6 years. 30 seconds of THAT much power is more than enough to get into deep trouble.
Ford waited so you could have a high strung N/A shelby (gt350).. and a supercharged beast..(gt500).. if the gt350 was boosted no one would care about a gt500..
Your right, Ford wouldn't make a lot of money if they'd supercharge the GT350/350R and then try to come out with a new supercharged Shelby GT500. It's all about the Benjamin's!
yeah, $100K for the GT500. That's the same cost as a new Z06. I know because I was offered to be on the list from Ford. And $100K is a deal - there will be a lot of places charging $150K thus the price of a ZR1 2019.
Or... they could have simply called it a GT500 from the start and supercharged it from the start... then it wouldn't have flopped like it did and instead been a badass car off the lot.
Far too many armchair experts out there. Hasn’t changed in decades. We did shit in the 80’s and 90’s to our 5.0’s that plenty of people thought was ludicrous.... a week/month/season later they were doing it too. It wasn’t all rainbows and lollipops, it was a good thing we had a full service garage to work out of, and one of the largest auto wreckers around to purge from if necessary. Enjoy this channel so much Alex. Brings back so many memories. Keep on keepin on boys !
Taking a reeeeeal close look at a Hennessey HPE850 GT350...this video made me feel a bit better. Looks solid, 8psi, they stand behind them...tbd. Thanks for the colorful commentary!
As a gt350 owner I like your opinion a lot! Granted i am not going to supercharge mine for a min. It would be nice to have everything a 350 does (a lot!) with extra power. There are vids here on UA-cam of supercharged 350’s spanking almost anything they race! Plus the sounnnnnd is heaven 😍
I like this guy's demeanor. He's fun to listen to. I have tracked my GT350 a number of times. For me the average amateur driver I can say I don't find it under-powered. For me and my skill it has good balance. Oddly enough while at the track, each day there was always at least one wreck. Sadly it was always a Mustang. It certainly doesn't help the perception that Mustang guys can't drive. Anyway. My gut tells me that most drivers, key word most, would wreck their cars left and right while tracking their GT350 if it had 200 more RWHP. In summary there are probably drivers that could drive a supercharged GT350 without wrecking the car and leveraging the additional HP and pulling quicker lap times. I just don't think I am one of them. In a straight line, hell yes. I could handle that for sure. I used to have a 700HP fox-body but on a road course I would kill myself if I had another 200 RWHP in my GT350. And again I am not saying this poster is incorrect. Please don't bash me. I am sure he is spot on and I am not disagreeing with his logic, I am just saying with my driving skill I would probably end up wrecking my car on the track with another 200 RWHP. It seems the sweet spot where most of the track guys like running is a 2,800 to 3,000 pound car with about 300 RWHP. I do find my car heavy on the track at times especially when pushing it hard. This car probably has about 450 RWHP and weighs about 3,800 pounds. It could go on a diet for sure. LOL
Hey, I'm an engineer and I find this video slightly offensive...and incredibly accurate. I've spent hundreds of hours making manuals before, thinking everything is perfectly concise and articulate...then another human comes along and actually utilizes it, becoming dumbfounded by the confusion and illogical decisions, relative to common sense (that's usually our downfall...the whole "common sense" thing). Theory is essential to all technology and is the cornerstone for development...but it's rendered somewhat useless and impractical until real-life application has been applied. The application validates the theory, and not the other way around. Do you want to think about sex, or have sex? I try to do both though when appropriate...
I've had a GT350 for a week now, and there is more than enough respectable power in it. I am sure the first time I get it out on the track I will feel that way too, it doesn't really live until almost 5k RPM, but it LIVES when you get there. I do however respect the supercharging thought, because it would just make it sound even better.
Have you gotten it out to the track? I've taken my to 3 track days and find myself screaming "go mother fucker!" Inside my helmet. Im about to whipple mine because it drives me nuts. It looks, handles, sounds and stops so well but it has 0 balls
I bought a 2016 GT350 about a year ago because it was supercharged, has a gen 2 Whipple kit. I love this car and its stupid fast, and sounds beautiful, over 800 crank horsepower that keeps pulling. the factory clutch said no more please, so it just got a mantic installed. As far as the engine, no issues thus far besides new plugs, .028 gap.
from dealerships? Or private sale cause im wondering if anyone ever found one from a dealership, then therefore they'd warranty the engine with supercharger?
Alejandro, great video and funny! Subscribed. My question to you, what would you recommend? Turbo or SC? I know the differences between both but in terms of setup, how do you think the car would react better. Also, what type of supercharger? Whipple or Procharger/Vortech? Thanks!
Yo! What supercharger would you recommend and what additional parts to support the added stress? I really want to supercharge mine. She desperately wants to go faster.
When I got my 2016 GT350, I was told not to supercharge it, because of the high compression, so I had Mclaren here in Michigan do a compression mod, long story short, it now is supercharged. And I fuck’n love it. Tapp’n that ass now.
I just purchased a ‘17 GT350 procharged D1X. It has all the supporting mods (dual booster pump, id1050x, opgs/cs, catless kooks long tubes, matic twin disc clutch, suspension, E85, etc) and tuned by Lund. The car isnputting down 680rwhp (which seems low bc of all the supporting mods/e85 lund tune) my question is what’s the smallest and/or safest lbs of boost i can run? I currectly have the 4.66 pulley. Any input will be appreciated!
ford in 2019 beefed up the internal a bit / cylinder water jackets and the head casting, also longer head bolts and a different head gasket, higher heat resistant valves and a few more things and said it can handle 12 psi of boost all day, so the 2016 and up can handle anything from 7 to 12 psi of boost without a doubt in my mind. the only thing I would do, is get the 350R timing chain and gears
Hello Alex. I miss not being able to pick your brain on tuning Tuesdays anymore. But big fan of your channel and your honesty and how little your are concern with voicing your opinions. But about that Voodoo motor. I remember you have said earlier that you would not do anything to the GT350 other then give it a good tune and drive it. So I am a little surprised you have changed your opinion. But I guess have more info now to value your current opinion. I fully agree the GT350 with it's high rpm capability would be a the ultimate Mustang currently with FI. But I asked Justin Starkey about his thought on bigger cams to take even better use of the rpm range in combo with long tubes. He said no one is offering anything. But sounded interested of the thought. But he said the VMP tune would bump the rev limit to 8500. Then Donny(VMP) said when I asked him about his opinion. He said the reason was because so many cranks are snapping on stock engines. He also said he had heard that some pro road racing teams had swapped over to Coyote cranks. Have you heard of that? But is the Aluminator, simple a Voodoo with a Coyote crank? It is the same displacement but is rated even higher HP. Is the new GT500 maybe just that motor with a TVS on top?
I own a 2019 GT 350 in performance Blue with white stripes and I absolutely love it. Now, I initially thought, I am going to SC or Turbo it with guys like Fathouse or Hennessey and got a few quotes. I was blown away at the high cost. Be ready to spend $25k - $60k depending on what you want to be done. Then I start to do some research and found the following, and I will just summarize it here. The bottom line is, do NOT modify with SC or TC the GT 350. Here is the reason why from multiple engineers and expert mechanics I spoke to: 1. GT 350 engine is FPC (Flap Plane Crank), which rev's higher and higher NVH. SC and turbos are not designed for this engine if you want it to last. If you don't mind rebuilding every 10k - 20k miles or so, then I guess SC and TC are ok for you. But rebuild before it fails, or else, you could be looking for a new motor when it fails. 2. GT 500 uses CPC (Cross Plane Crank) with lower REV and lower NVH, which is why Ford used CPC config to use for SC models to produce 700 HP at the wheel. Yes, the car actually puts out more HP at the crank than advertised. 3. GT 350 has a high compression ratio 12:1 vs. GT 500 has 9:1 ratio. Boosting over 12 lb on the GT 350 will put too much stress on this engine unless you lower the compression down. Given with FPC, this would not perform as well as high compression. Also, you will need new injectors to handle the higher flow of fuel, new higher-powered fuel pump, and new lines to handle the capacity (all depends on how much boost and hp you are adding on). Pistons and rings are also not designed for this much of increased volume, and again with high compression, good chance you will over-rev and damage the engine over much shorter time than not doing this. 4. Internal parts are not built to the specifications of increased HP and boost from SC's or turbos. To ensure things don't fail, new billet aluminum oil pump gears, forged pistons, and rods, etc. are needed to properly handle the added stress. Not to mention a new clutch, drive train, etc... depending on how much HP you plan to increase. Anything over 700 HP to the rear wheel will require clutch, and drive train modifications. Expensive. 5. The reliability of the engine is reduced over 4x. Be ready to rebuild engines frequently when you push it often or track it, or drag strip it. Keep in mind, most race cars get their engine rebuilt after each race in most cases. 6. Cost... It is extremely expensive to do it right and with that money, you may be better to buy a new motor directly from Ford or just upgrade to the GT 500 car. There is a lot of things like electronic's and gauges that may need to be retrofitted, but given GT 500 uses same block as GT 350, I guess one could just go out and buy a new GT 500 motor with SC already on it and install it on GT 350 for the amount of money you will spend to supercharge the GT 350 properly. But then why... Just go buy the GT 500. 7. You void the warranty. You're on your own if something breaks. In fact, many engine failures are a result of modifications (i.e. tunes, etc.) if you dig into them. So then what can you do safely to GT 350 and still keep it NA? A. Change headers (as they are the biggest bottleneck) for performance on the GT 350. The rest of the exhaust won't make much difference (aside from sound difference). Headers alone will make the sound deeper with the stock GT 350 exhaust. However, you will need to retune the ECU to work optimally with the high flow headers. Air/Fuel mixture ratio etc. all have to be recalibrated. Eliminating the resonator does nothing for performance and makes the car sound raspy. Just be warned. B. Tune and change out the intake. New headers will also require a tune as I stated above, so if you are going to do the headers, mine as well as do the intake. C. change out the driveshaft to Carbon Fiber (makes a big difference) and it will be like adding 35 - 50 HP on the car from what people have said. D. If you must, change out the heavy rotors in the front to carbon-ceramic. Lose another 40 - 50 lbs between both rotors, plus they will last the life of the car and make the car more responsive. And virtually no brake dust! The Naturally aspirated modifications I am told by multiple engineers, all told me... the header, intake, and tune will put about 500-520+ HP at the wheel vs. 426 HP at the wheel stock. That is a very big boost and you will feel it. With carbon fiber driveshaft and reduced weight from rotors, it will feel like the car is much lighter and even more responsive. Being it will still be NA, the engine will thank you and last the life expectancy of the vehicle. I have heard easy this engine can go 100k+ miles if kept NA or more. GT 350/R with these mods is pretty significant on the track I am told. However, even the NA modification will void your warranty. So, I would only do this once the warranty expires. For me, at the rate I am racking up the miles, that would be 3 years tops. I daily my car since I live in a warmer climate state. Enjoy your car and don't get caught spending massive money to modify something that was created and engineered so perfectly from many talented engineers. The cost to do the SC or turbocharge on this car correctly is around $40 - $60k depending on how much HP you want to gain. And it will not last you that long due to the high NVH and FPC config of this motor.
10k to sc it...I've tuned over 100...no issues. 1 thing I found out quickly. Ford engineers dont know a damn thing about the aftermarket. The fact that you looked at Hennessy to work on your car tells me all I need to know. You wrote all that shit for nothing.
@@YDBT4LIFE Thanks. 1. I looked at Hennessy, FatHouse, and few other local performance shops that do exactly what your youtube video is showing. I spoke to all of them and asked them very specific questions and got quotes. But I also spoke to Ford and several mechanics who have been mechanics working on engines for the past 30 years. Not sure what that has anything to do with the credibility of my post. But you do what you do. Go ahead and spend $10k on a SC. Good luck to you. Do some research next time and I doubt ford engineers who designed this engine knows less than you or aftermarket folks. $10k won't buy you 1/2 of what you need to do to the engine to get it working properly and make it run with any stability and longevity. If you don't care about blowing an engine or stressing it and running it at breaking point and rebuild it, so be it. But it is dangerous to put such a recommendation on youtube for the general public to take action on their precious cars. Go get certified master tech with Ford motor and work in the shop for a few decades and maybe... someone may listen to you. Because those are the folks I spoke to. The reason why Carol Shelby and Shelby racing team charges what they do to do is because they do it right and they work directly with Ford to really understand the mechanics of what they are dealing with, and it isn't cheap to do it right. If you really want your GT 350 supercharged, go call Shelby America and talk to them about what it would cost and listen to people who know what they are talking about. It is dangerous postings like this that make people ruin their cars.
@@r32446 no offense man, but this is the difference between street smarts and book smarts. What is truth... us it truth because it has been written in a book? Or is it truth because you have seen hundreds, driven dozens, owned many and you know from real experience? Real world is real world. The co's you talked to.. I know most of the owners, they are great people. But, they have massive overhead with many employees etc. AND.... most of them offer warranties.. those warrantys cost a lot of money. Hennessey, in the real world, is simply just known by all real world knowledgable owners of cars they have raced, to be the co that literally doubles the cost of what you can buy and do on your own. Period.. the Hennessey 850 gt350 package is 24k.. it does come with a limited warranty, and yes it uses very limited. But, you can buy , right now, from Lethal, a whipple gen 5 full kit with appropriately needed fuel pump boosters, and injectors, for $8700.. you can and should get oil.pump gears in my opinion. All can be installed and tuned for a couple grand. Done.. Being conservative, knocking it back a little to be extra safe you can run 10 lbs of boost, not go crazy on timing and get safely with good a/f 750-770 all day long. With stock cats and mans.. You are now educated, for free. You are welcome. PS. In my opinion, it might be good to give more credit to those that have DONE opposed to all credit to those that preach.
Hello Al, love your videos.. straight up and to the point... and I love that voice... as a fellow tradesman (electrician industrial and commercial) I agree .. we do things on the fly when the prints don't jive. And here's the rub... Most blueprints are not halfway done when current projects start up, unlike when I started out in 84' I have a question that Ford cannot answer. I have a 2020 Mustang GT and bought the Ford Performance Cold air Kit with the 87mm throttle body and also a GT350 Manifold to match up (I hate reducing air flow man) with the Cold Air Intake Kit. Levittown Ford sold me this and their site says this matches up. Ford says they have never seen this done, so I know my fellow douchebags will have the answer that no engineer seems to have... Drives me nuts. What is your input Al. And I agree, you fuck the shit out of that pussy so the next guy says... Damn, I can't follow that act baby !!! Keep'er Coming and if she comes easy, take'r twice
Need more Lund Racing logos. :) Make it like those progressive insurance commercials where everything slowly turns into a LR logo around you. Not hating, just messing with you. I love the tune(s) Jr. provided for my nodriving, icecream getting GT500. :) Keep up the good work man!
Ferrari 458 has a flat plane 14:1 compression di engine and people boost those as well. Honda’s are flat plane. Etc. everyone knows everything bro. Lol. Thanks and stay with it. Your channel is like zen to me. Breaks up my normal routine and I dig it.
Since you're with LR now and they offer the ghost cam tune, what are your personal opinions on it? In terms of possibly decreasing reliability, etc. I got it when I had my Kooks LT's put on (from LR of course) and while I think it's definitely a badass advancement in tuning tech and definitely a gimmick I've always wondered about decrease in reliability from the extra vibrations at idle. Definitely love your videos, actually get excited when I see a new video pop up. Actually learning quality information.
I can’t remember if you’ve gone over this subject or not, and some other viewers might want to know as well. For Gen 1 Coyotes, or any generation for that matter, what horsepower level would you and others you know recommend going ahead and sleeving the block over just a good set of rods and pistons?
What is the best boost option for a 350.? I am not an expert, procharger, turbo, supercharger? What gives the best bang for buck? I love my car but have dilemma where to go with it.
Hey Alex, where does the powerband move if you use a PD supercharger on the Voodoo? Can you spin a whipple or a VMP all the way to 8100rpm and still have it be efficient? Or would it just be a heat pump at the higher rpm range?
The GT 350 is a track car. My question is how will it hold up for a 20 minute track session on boost . Will it run in to overheating problems are overtaxing the coolers for the transmission or IRS?
Bro! I was in market for S550 & after doing research, I decided...after taking ur Advice & deciding GT500 for transmission & Torque over features & comfort...GT350 Boosted is like BJ's GT500 w/ Nitrous. Can U do a vid about wet or dry shot for GT500?
I think what you say maybe is fun for free way rolls. But on a track, I don't feel underpowered. Driver needs more tune than power. And adding power on a track just makes mistakes more visible.
Boost softens the hit on the rods and crank at tdc and bdc (within reason). Actually makes for a more reliable engine when the miles pack on. Cough diesels cough.
Voo doo nice moter i just think ford should have made the gt350 around 600 horse 526 is not much more than coyote , good vid Alex hopefully I'll meet one day GO LUND
I don't blame anyone that would want a few hundred more wheel horsepower to a 350/R. I would try and utilize as many Factory parts and FRPP upgrades available but i see it as no different then SC'in an E92 M3 V8. The same nimble, good stopping and balanced platform like the M3 or others sometimes need a little extra to make it that truly powerful balanced setup that can perform on the level of cars many times over or even be the factor that keeps you from the selling your 350/M3 for a higher hp Forced Induction vehicle from the factory. i would love to get my hands on a 5.2L Voodoo as well as many others I'm sure, and swap in to my 3V or earlier Fox/SN95 chassis and use it as a Road Race setup. It would be the ideal High HP N/A engine that will do wonders and take a beating stock compared to what you would need to do to Recent and Slightly older DOHC platforms. Just my 2 cents and solid content as usual Yolo !
The we knew you couldn't keep the YOLO out of you hahahaha BTW when are you making the next video in Spanish ? You're the only bilingual youtuber that actually makes different videos and not just a translation of a previous one!.... YOLO for president 😎😂
Alex love your philosophy like I'm goin to have a dime piece and not smash dat ass hahaha to funny!! As always great info love your input and the wealth of knowledge u have!!
I will add that that the comments about engineering on fit and accessibility is one thing. But dismissing ICE engineers is an entire different ball game. All limitation parameters come from testing and repeatable results. I track my car and there for it will never see boost. Why? because under boost I would most certainly see reduced life out of the engine. Additionally, now I have to manage more heat. Straight line racing and circuit racing are two completely different animals and one puts more stress for longer duration on the engine. Take a guess which one?
Great video. My GT350 goes in this month for a Whipple, headers, etc.. You nailed it when saying car needs more power because of how good brakes, chassis, suspension already are. I can’t wait! Thanks for the video, I subscribed!
Shocked Pika so far so good. Although I don’t drive it very often, have only put about 400 miles on it so far.. And when I do drive it, I don’t beat on it too much..
Ronny S uh huh. It’s not geared for optimizing qt mile time slips. I can assure you though it’s not underpowered on a road circuit. It has a long power curve for its intended use; corner to corner.
Some folks think if you want a FI SC get the 2020 GT500. Sure the MSRP will be $80K MSRP and dealers will be adding another $20K ADM thus $100K for the GT500 that has 750HP. Meanwhile, the GT350 can be had for $65K and if you install a good SC plus labor will cost you $10K thus $75K for a car that will have from 700 to 800HP.
I don't know shit about cars but I own a 17 GT. Half the shit you say that people asking you I just roll my eyes, dumbest shit questions many are common sense. I love your channel and don't know how TF you don't have more subs.
Alex does Lund Racing make a swap kit for a 79 f150 4x4 to install a Coyote, what you recommend the truck version or Mustang? I am planning on buying a Gt350r what year is the best,yes I plan on putting a Kenne Bell on it,what's the deal with the different chassis numbers on the dash of the Gt350rs? Thanks!
My thought is of it was a bad idea then why would Ford do it for the gt500, I’d be interested to know if they either built the motor with this in mind the whole time and planned on boasting it for a new gt500 or that motor was proven and ford said hell with it let’s do it and call it a gt500
My only thing is that if you do blow up a gt 350 engine it is $23,000 for a new one. I know this because I know a tech that had to replace one under warranty after the oil pressure bottomed out. So I’d rather risk a coyote engine and have the money left over to buy three more for one voodoo engine.
I have a 2017 GT350 and yes that expensive engine is keeping me from doing any type of FI on it plus I have a 75,000 mile warranty (Factory) on it which I don't want to void with FI.
If I’m getting ready to swap my 88 fox. And wanting a VmP blown car. Would you suggest to go with the 5.0 Coyote as a base. Or the flat plane cranked GT350 motor?
Yep, you can buy an aluminator or 5.2 with cross plane crank built for boost.. for 10-15k for just the long block.. my buddy got a '16 f150 take out with pcm and harness for $2300.. he had the block sleeved and replaced pistons and rods to forged for about $3000 bucks at a local machine shop.. its running a single 80mm garret turbo..no reason to buy a ford block unless are in a time pinch or money no object..
Hey brother Great your stuff. question why is it that the GT 350 even when super charged or Pro Charger it doesn't produce equal amounts of torque it's always low
Short answer: uses a flat plane crack instead of a cross plane crank. It revs to the moon bc of its single side weighted crank so peak horsepower will naturally be much higher than peak torque. All combustion motors have equal HP and torque at 5252rpms. Torque is always higher than horsepower until that 5252rpm intersection. So vehicles that redline before 5252rpm will always have more torque than hp (Diesels that redline at 4K will have 800 torque and 450 hp). My cbr1000 makes 185rwhp but only 89 lb/ft but it redlines past 13k rpm.
@@MStrange88 redline can be way over 5250 and still make more trq than hp. Dynos rate highest trq anywhere on the graph, so it could be 700rw at 7000rpms and but max 800rwtq at 4500. Still makes more torque than hp.
the girlfriend comparison always cracks me up. there's no return on investment when you dump the girl
sfuller442 good point
Exactly. It’s a stupid comparison.
It's a sad comparison that people that don't understand investments use. Most cars are not good for investments, but there are some, and for those people I get it. Most people that can afford high end cars that increase in value, can afford multiple other daily drivers. They could also afford to modify whatever they want, so its whatever. People can do whatever the fuck they want.
Right but on a car like this you aren’t returning any money for a long period of time. So if you’re fine with having a car sit in your garage for the next 30 years before selling it then maybe you’ll have a point. The comparison is just a demonstration of concepts because obviously a girl’s pussy isn’t remotely the same as a car and as such is a bit like apples to oranges but y’all just can’t take it for the concept and have to be 100% accurate all the time because it’s youtube.
"Cars are an investment" lose my shit everytime you could be driving it when some drunk person decides to not stop into the back of you and total your "investment". Ill never make that mistake again.
You're right, dude.
800 crank from a 520hp engine is barely a 50% increase in stress. Crankshafts are a rigidity item more than a fatigue item. It'll be fine. If that engine has 2" mains, and the crank is made of nodular iron that elongates 8% at fracture, the crank will have to flex 0.12" before anything happens. You'll fuck up the mains before the crank ever breaks. Last I checked, those have forged steel cranks or some shit. Drive the goddamn fuck out of it.
The fatigue limit takes like 10 million cycles to reach. That engine would have to sit there in a dyno cell, at 9800 RPM, and 12 PSI for 17 hours non-stop in order to trigger a fatigue failure, and that's only if the goddamn engine was optimized that close anyway. You can hold the car WOT for 30 seconds 2000 times. That's five times a day, for almost 6 years. 30 seconds of THAT much power is more than enough to get into deep trouble.
Flat plane CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK
Your camera needs the zoom delete tune
Focusing*
Gavriil Kaufman wtf?
It’s called focusing not zoom. It’s trying to auto focus
Ford waited so you could have a high strung N/A shelby (gt350).. and a supercharged beast..(gt500).. if the gt350 was boosted no one would care about a gt500..
Sense made
Your right, Ford wouldn't make a lot of money if they'd supercharge the GT350/350R and then try to come out with a new supercharged Shelby GT500. It's all about the Benjamin's!
yeah, $100K for the GT500. That's the same cost as a new Z06. I know because I was offered to be on the list from Ford. And $100K is a deal - there will be a lot of places charging $150K thus the price of a ZR1 2019.
Holy shit why have I never thought of that
Or... they could have simply called it a GT500 from the start and supercharged it from the start... then it wouldn't have flopped like it did and instead been a badass car off the lot.
Always smart. Love your outlook and practical knowledge. It's awesome.
Digging the merch. And if I have enough for a GT350 then I'll have enough for a TVS blower.😎
Appreciate you making this video. Good job as always
Love the back to back to back vids...keep them coming. Was a bit distracted that the still had the time and mph on the dry erase board..🤣🤣
Far too many armchair experts out there. Hasn’t changed in decades. We did shit in the 80’s and 90’s to our 5.0’s that plenty of people thought was ludicrous.... a week/month/season later they were doing it too. It wasn’t all rainbows and lollipops, it was a good thing we had a full service garage to work out of, and one of the largest auto wreckers around to purge from if necessary. Enjoy this channel so much Alex. Brings back so many memories. Keep on keepin on boys !
GT350, supercharge it, and daily drive that beast.
Thanks for this video, you answered my question. I can’t wait to get mine.
I respect your opinions and your point of view..Excellent Video!!!
Sweet video, don't forget us 11-14 guys. Sending my t56 magnum to Ben Calimer next week stage 2 build.
Love this dude personality and his knowledge is above the rest
Hahahaha men this dude is badass and funny great videos bro keep it up 👍🏻🔥
That is awesome! You analogy cause my wife’s attention, and the look I got from here was Funkin hilarious
Taking a reeeeeal close look at a Hennessey HPE850 GT350...this video made me feel a bit better. Looks solid, 8psi, they stand behind them...tbd. Thanks for the colorful commentary!
Thank you, I procharged my Gt350 and I love it you are the first I have watched that said do it.
any problems with the car?
Wasn't sure where the hell you were going with that gf analogy, but made me chuckle once you got there. I also agree with you
As a gt350 owner I like your opinion a lot! Granted i am not going to supercharge mine for a min. It would be nice to have everything a 350 does (a lot!) with extra power. There are vids here on UA-cam of supercharged 350’s spanking almost anything they race! Plus the sounnnnnd is heaven 😍
I like this guy's demeanor. He's fun to listen to. I have tracked my GT350 a number of times. For me the average amateur driver I can say I don't find it under-powered. For me and my skill it has good balance. Oddly enough while at the track, each day there was always at least one wreck. Sadly it was always a Mustang. It certainly doesn't help the perception that Mustang guys can't drive. Anyway. My gut tells me that most drivers, key word most, would wreck their cars left and right while tracking their GT350 if it had 200 more RWHP. In summary there are probably drivers that could drive a supercharged GT350 without wrecking the car and leveraging the additional HP and pulling quicker lap times. I just don't think I am one of them. In a straight line, hell yes. I could handle that for sure. I used to have a 700HP fox-body but on a road course I would kill myself if I had another 200 RWHP in my GT350. And again I am not saying this poster is incorrect. Please don't bash me. I am sure he is spot on and I am not disagreeing with his logic, I am just saying with my driving skill I would probably end up wrecking my car on the track with another 200 RWHP. It seems the sweet spot where most of the track guys like running is a 2,800 to 3,000 pound car with about 300 RWHP. I do find my car heavy on the track at times especially when pushing it hard. This car probably has about 450 RWHP and weighs about 3,800 pounds. It could go on a diet for sure. LOL
Hey, I'm an engineer and I find this video slightly offensive...and incredibly accurate. I've spent hundreds of hours making manuals before, thinking everything is perfectly concise and articulate...then another human comes along and actually utilizes it, becoming dumbfounded by the confusion and illogical decisions, relative to common sense (that's usually our downfall...the whole "common sense" thing). Theory is essential to all technology and is the cornerstone for development...but it's rendered somewhat useless and impractical until real-life application has been applied. The application validates the theory, and not the other way around. Do you want to think about sex, or have sex? I try to do both though when appropriate...
Alex Pinion well said
Thnx for the video and information. 👍
I've had a GT350 for a week now, and there is more than enough respectable power in it. I am sure the first time I get it out on the track I will feel that way too, it doesn't really live until almost 5k RPM, but it LIVES when you get there.
I do however respect the supercharging thought, because it would just make it sound even better.
Have you gotten it out to the track? I've taken my to 3 track days and find myself screaming "go mother fucker!" Inside my helmet. Im about to whipple mine because it drives me nuts. It looks, handles, sounds and stops so well but it has 0 balls
So when the hellcat pulls up next to you at the light youll look the other way right lol.
@@chrisjon6480 at no point did I think my GT350 was a straight line hero, roll racing and highway heroism is for people who can't drive lol
I bought a 2016 GT350 about a year ago because it was supercharged, has a gen 2 Whipple kit. I love this car and its stupid fast, and sounds beautiful, over 800 crank horsepower that keeps pulling. the factory clutch said no more please, so it just got a mantic installed. As far as the engine, no issues thus far besides new plugs, .028 gap.
Do you still have it? I found a 2016 fur sale with a whipple on it
from dealerships? Or private sale cause im wondering if anyone ever found one from a dealership, then therefore they'd warranty the engine with supercharger?
That analogy. Haha. Subscribed.
Great advise again...
Alejandro, great video and funny! Subscribed. My question to you, what would you recommend? Turbo or SC? I know the differences between both but in terms of setup, how do you think the car would react better. Also, what type of supercharger? Whipple or Procharger/Vortech? Thanks!
😆ilike the gf part def subscribing, idont have a gt350 but hopefully oneday
Yo! What supercharger would you recommend and what additional parts to support the added stress? I really want to supercharge mine. She desperately wants to go faster.
love your stuff, Alex. but in all honesty, i miss YOLO. i hope he makes a comeback soon :)
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When I got my 2016 GT350, I was told not to supercharge it, because of the high compression, so I had Mclaren here in Michigan do a compression mod, long story short, it now is supercharged. And I fuck’n love it. Tapp’n that ass now.
I just purchased a ‘17 GT350 procharged D1X. It has all the supporting mods (dual booster pump, id1050x, opgs/cs, catless kooks long tubes, matic twin disc clutch, suspension, E85, etc) and tuned by Lund. The car isnputting down 680rwhp (which seems low bc of all the supporting mods/e85 lund tune) my question is what’s the smallest and/or safest lbs of boost i can run? I currectly have the 4.66 pulley. Any input will be appreciated!
ford in 2019 beefed up the internal a bit / cylinder water jackets and the head casting, also longer head bolts and a different head gasket, higher heat resistant valves and a few more things and said it can handle 12 psi of boost all day, so the 2016 and up can handle anything from 7 to 12 psi of boost without a doubt in my mind. the only thing I would do, is get the 350R timing chain and gears
YOLO THE BEST!!!!!💪
Good video bro, I agree. Which whipple and company would you recommend for this upgrade? Thanks
Hello Alex. I miss not being able to pick your brain on tuning Tuesdays anymore. But big fan of your channel and your honesty and how little your are concern with voicing your opinions.
But about that Voodoo motor. I remember you have said earlier that you would not do anything to the GT350 other then give it a good tune and drive it.
So I am a little surprised you have changed your opinion. But I guess have more info now to value your current opinion. I fully agree the GT350 with it's high rpm capability would be a the ultimate Mustang currently with FI.
But I asked Justin Starkey about his thought on bigger cams to take even better use of the rpm range in combo with long tubes. He said no one is offering anything. But sounded interested of the thought. But he said the VMP tune would bump the rev limit to 8500. Then Donny(VMP) said when I asked him about his opinion. He said the reason was because so many cranks are snapping on stock engines. He also said he had heard that some pro road racing teams had swapped over to Coyote cranks. Have you heard of that?
But is the Aluminator, simple a Voodoo with a Coyote crank? It is the same displacement but is rated even higher HP. Is the new GT500 maybe just that motor with a TVS on top?
Agreed. Just like when the engineers said the coyote couldn't handle forced induction for long. Wroooong.
I own a 2019 GT 350 in performance Blue with white stripes and I absolutely love it. Now, I initially thought, I am going to SC or Turbo it with guys like Fathouse or Hennessey and got a few quotes. I was blown away at the high cost. Be ready to spend $25k - $60k depending on what you want to be done. Then I start to do some research and found the following, and I will just summarize it here.
The bottom line is, do NOT modify with SC or TC the GT 350. Here is the reason why from multiple engineers and expert mechanics I spoke to:
1. GT 350 engine is FPC (Flap Plane Crank), which rev's higher and higher NVH. SC and turbos are not designed for this engine if you want it to last. If you don't mind rebuilding every 10k - 20k miles or so, then I guess SC and TC are ok for you. But rebuild before it fails, or else, you could be looking for a new motor when it fails.
2. GT 500 uses CPC (Cross Plane Crank) with lower REV and lower NVH, which is why Ford used CPC config to use for SC models to produce 700 HP at the wheel. Yes, the car actually puts out more HP at the crank than advertised.
3. GT 350 has a high compression ratio 12:1 vs. GT 500 has 9:1 ratio. Boosting over 12 lb on the GT 350 will put too much stress on this engine unless you lower the compression down. Given with FPC, this would not perform as well as high compression. Also, you will need new injectors to handle the higher flow of fuel, new higher-powered fuel pump, and new lines to handle the capacity (all depends on how much boost and hp you are adding on). Pistons and rings are also not designed for this much of increased volume, and again with high compression, good chance you will over-rev and damage the engine over much shorter time than not doing this.
4. Internal parts are not built to the specifications of increased HP and boost from SC's or turbos. To ensure things don't fail, new billet aluminum oil pump gears, forged pistons, and rods, etc. are needed to properly handle the added stress. Not to mention a new clutch, drive train, etc... depending on how much HP you plan to increase. Anything over 700 HP to the rear wheel will require clutch, and drive train modifications. Expensive.
5. The reliability of the engine is reduced over 4x. Be ready to rebuild engines frequently when you push it often or track it, or drag strip it. Keep in mind, most race cars get their engine rebuilt after each race in most cases.
6. Cost... It is extremely expensive to do it right and with that money, you may be better to buy a new motor directly from Ford or just upgrade to the GT 500 car. There is a lot of things like electronic's and gauges that may need to be retrofitted, but given GT 500 uses same block as GT 350, I guess one could just go out and buy a new GT 500 motor with SC already on it and install it on GT 350 for the amount of money you will spend to supercharge the GT 350 properly. But then why... Just go buy the GT 500.
7. You void the warranty. You're on your own if something breaks. In fact, many engine failures are a result of modifications (i.e. tunes, etc.) if you dig into them.
So then what can you do safely to GT 350 and still keep it NA?
A. Change headers (as they are the biggest bottleneck) for performance on the GT 350. The rest of the exhaust won't make much difference (aside from sound difference). Headers alone will make the sound deeper with the stock GT 350 exhaust. However, you will need to retune the ECU to work optimally with the high flow headers. Air/Fuel mixture ratio etc. all have to be recalibrated. Eliminating the resonator does nothing for performance and makes the car sound raspy. Just be warned.
B. Tune and change out the intake. New headers will also require a tune as I stated above, so if you are going to do the headers, mine as well as do the intake.
C. change out the driveshaft to Carbon Fiber (makes a big difference) and it will be like adding 35 - 50 HP on the car from what people have said.
D. If you must, change out the heavy rotors in the front to carbon-ceramic. Lose another 40 - 50 lbs between both rotors, plus they will last the life of the car and make the car more responsive. And virtually no brake dust!
The Naturally aspirated modifications I am told by multiple engineers, all told me... the header, intake, and tune will put about 500-520+ HP at the wheel vs. 426 HP at the wheel stock. That is a very big boost and you will feel it. With carbon fiber driveshaft and reduced weight from rotors, it will feel like the car is much lighter and even more responsive. Being it will still be NA, the engine will thank you and last the life expectancy of the vehicle. I have heard easy this engine can go 100k+ miles if kept NA or more. GT 350/R with these mods is pretty significant on the track I am told.
However, even the NA modification will void your warranty. So, I would only do this once the warranty expires. For me, at the rate I am racking up the miles, that would be 3 years tops. I daily my car since I live in a warmer climate state.
Enjoy your car and don't get caught spending massive money to modify something that was created and engineered so perfectly from many talented engineers.
The cost to do the SC or turbocharge on this car correctly is around $40 - $60k depending on how much HP you want to gain. And it will not last you that long due to the high NVH and FPC config of this motor.
10k to sc it...I've tuned over 100...no issues. 1 thing I found out quickly. Ford engineers dont know a damn thing about the aftermarket. The fact that you looked at Hennessy to work on your car tells me all I need to know. You wrote all that shit for nothing.
@@YDBT4LIFE Thanks.
1. I looked at Hennessy, FatHouse, and few other local performance shops that do exactly what your youtube video is showing. I spoke to all of them and asked them very specific questions and got quotes. But I also spoke to Ford and several mechanics who have been mechanics working on engines for the past 30 years. Not sure what that has anything to do with the credibility of my post.
But you do what you do. Go ahead and spend $10k on a SC. Good luck to you. Do some research next time and I doubt ford engineers who designed this engine knows less than you or aftermarket folks. $10k won't buy you 1/2 of what you need to do to the engine to get it working properly and make it run with any stability and longevity. If you don't care about blowing an engine or stressing it and running it at breaking point and rebuild it, so be it. But it is dangerous to put such a recommendation on youtube for the general public to take action on their precious cars. Go get certified master tech with Ford motor and work in the shop for a few decades and maybe... someone may listen to you. Because those are the folks I spoke to.
The reason why Carol Shelby and Shelby racing team charges what they do to do is because they do it right and they work directly with Ford to really understand the mechanics of what they are dealing with, and it isn't cheap to do it right. If you really want your GT 350 supercharged, go call Shelby America and talk to them about what it would cost and listen to people who know what they are talking about. It is dangerous postings like this that make people ruin their cars.
@@r32446 they are all wrong. Sorry
Every single supercharged G T3 50 I have tuned has lived a long healthy life and has never had any issues.
@@r32446 no offense man, but this is the difference between street smarts and book smarts. What is truth... us it truth because it has been written in a book? Or is it truth because you have seen hundreds, driven dozens, owned many and you know from real experience? Real world is real world. The co's you talked to.. I know most of the owners, they are great people. But, they have massive overhead with many employees etc. AND.... most of them offer warranties.. those warrantys cost a lot of money. Hennessey, in the real world, is simply just known by all real world knowledgable owners of cars they have raced, to be the co that literally doubles the cost of what you can buy and do on your own. Period.. the Hennessey 850 gt350 package is 24k.. it does come with a limited warranty, and yes it uses very limited. But, you can buy , right now, from Lethal, a whipple gen 5 full kit with appropriately needed fuel pump boosters, and injectors, for $8700.. you can and should get oil.pump gears in my opinion. All can be installed and tuned for a couple grand. Done.. Being conservative, knocking it back a little to be extra safe you can run 10 lbs of boost, not go crazy on timing and get safely with good a/f 750-770 all day long. With stock cats and mans.. You are now educated, for free. You are welcome.
PS. In my opinion, it might be good to give more credit to those that have DONE opposed to all credit to those that preach.
Hello Al, love your videos.. straight up and to the point... and I love that voice... as a fellow tradesman (electrician industrial and commercial) I agree .. we do things on the fly when the prints don't jive. And here's the rub... Most blueprints are not halfway done when current projects start up, unlike when I started out in 84'
I have a question that Ford cannot answer. I have a 2020 Mustang GT and bought the Ford Performance Cold air Kit with the 87mm throttle body and also a GT350 Manifold to match up (I hate reducing air flow man) with the Cold Air Intake Kit. Levittown Ford sold me this and their site says this matches up. Ford says they have never seen this done, so I know my fellow douchebags will have the answer that no engineer seems to have... Drives me nuts. What is your input Al.
And I agree, you fuck the shit out of that pussy so the next guy says... Damn, I can't follow that act baby !!!
Keep'er Coming and if she comes easy, take'r twice
Need more Lund Racing logos. :) Make it like those progressive insurance commercials where everything slowly turns into a LR logo around you. Not hating, just messing with you. I love the tune(s) Jr. provided for my nodriving, icecream getting GT500. :) Keep up the good work man!
What supercharger setup would you go with or recommend Alex?
I’m on my way to buy a GT350 next year, and have already thought about supercharging/procharging it the week I get it haha
Ferrari 458 has a flat plane 14:1 compression di engine and people boost those as well. Honda’s are flat plane. Etc. everyone knows everything bro. Lol. Thanks and stay with it. Your channel is like zen to me. Breaks up my normal routine and I dig it.
great vid!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AlejandroFlores Do you know if Magnuson is going to make the tvs 2650 available for the S550 platform in the near future?
Since you're with LR now and they offer the ghost cam tune, what are your personal opinions on it? In terms of possibly decreasing reliability, etc. I got it when I had my Kooks LT's put on (from LR of course) and while I think it's definitely a badass advancement in tuning tech and definitely a gimmick I've always wondered about decrease in reliability from the extra vibrations at idle. Definitely love your videos, actually get excited when I see a new video pop up. Actually learning quality information.
UrNm Edge i know people that have daily driven with it no issues. That being said its novelty. Treat it as such
Alejandro Flores exactly what I do thanks for the reply. Sometimes you want to just be that noisey fucker for a weekend 😂 my neighbors looooove it.
yolo came out to talk about the flat plane crank, hell yeah.
I can’t remember if you’ve gone over this subject or not, and some other viewers might want to know as well. For Gen 1 Coyotes, or any generation for that matter, what horsepower level would you and others you know recommend going ahead and sleeving the block over just a good set of rods and pistons?
👍🏻 Nice!!!
What is the best boost option for a 350.? I am not an expert, procharger, turbo, supercharger? What gives the best bang for buck? I love my car but have dilemma where to go with it.
Hey Alex, where does the powerband move if you use a PD supercharger on the Voodoo? Can you spin a whipple or a VMP all the way to 8100rpm and still have it be efficient? Or would it just be a heat pump at the higher rpm range?
Do a video on if you should super charge or turbo for a mustang. Amd which is better.
The GT 350 is a track car. My question is how will it hold up for a 20 minute track session on boost . Will it run in to overheating problems are overtaxing the coolers for the transmission or IRS?
Good question
Bro! I was in market for S550 & after doing research, I decided...after taking ur Advice & deciding GT500 for transmission & Torque over features & comfort...GT350 Boosted is like BJ's GT500 w/ Nitrous. Can U do a vid about wet or dry shot for GT500?
I just procharged mine with stainless works headers put down 730whp at 5psi.
Erik radzins channel made 701hp with a procharger p1x
Gt 350 with a tune that comes with the system. So it probly way higher now with more tuning
Are you glad you went with he pro-charger? Any noticeable lag to speak of? How has it held up?
Now my mine is made up!!! Hold T Challa baby Mr. Whipple is coming!!!!
Alex I have a 2012 boss 302 stock for now what supercharger would you recommend for the 600-650 rwhp I'm looking to get?
i feel like im drunk watching this!
What type of power adder do you recommend for a gt350?
Engineers can be performance oriented and innovative yes, but at the end of the sustainability is what we strive for.
Which supercharger is breaking crank pulley on coyote engine YOLO?
What brand of superchargers has blown up a lot of the coyote motors that he was referring too?
I think what you say maybe is fun for free way rolls.
But on a track, I don't feel underpowered. Driver needs more tune than power. And adding power on a track just makes mistakes more visible.
Best comparation ever
Boost softens the hit on the rods and crank at tdc and bdc (within reason). Actually makes for a more reliable engine when the miles pack on. Cough diesels cough.
Most likely they want the supercharged version to come from them. A lot of companies do that to bolster their performance divisions or future sales.
Hey man , ls the vodoo reliable with boost ? Or high boost
Voo doo nice moter i just think ford should have made the gt350 around 600 horse 526 is not much more than coyote , good vid Alex hopefully I'll meet one day GO LUND
Here at procharger we ship out SO MANY gt350 kits it’s ridiculous!
How safe do you think a gt350 turbo'd e85 on 18 ish pounds would be
Bro if I put a Shelby badge on my GT does it become a gt350? Gunna get that, plastidip my decklid, and get a bama no lift shift tune.
Just drove a whipple gt350 car and it was bucking really bad driving in traffic. Seemed like something with the bypass valve ?
I don't blame anyone that would want a few hundred more wheel horsepower to a 350/R. I would try and utilize as many Factory parts and FRPP upgrades available but i see it as no different then SC'in an E92 M3 V8. The same nimble, good stopping and balanced platform like the M3 or others sometimes need a little extra to make it that truly powerful balanced setup that can perform on the level of cars many times over or even be the factor that keeps you from the selling your 350/M3 for a higher hp Forced Induction vehicle from the factory. i would love to get my hands on a 5.2L Voodoo as well as many others I'm sure, and swap in to my 3V or earlier Fox/SN95 chassis and use it as a Road Race setup. It would be the ideal High HP N/A engine that will do wonders and take a beating stock compared to what you would need to do to Recent and Slightly older DOHC platforms. Just my 2 cents and solid content as usual Yolo !
just remember tuners ARE NOT mechanics or fabricators.....but great older mechanics can be great tuners with good opinions
The we knew you couldn't keep the YOLO out of you hahahaha BTW when are you making the next video in Spanish ? You're the only bilingual youtuber that actually makes different videos and not just a translation of a previous one!.... YOLO for president 😎😂
Alex love your philosophy like I'm goin to have a dime piece and not smash dat ass hahaha to funny!! As always great info love your input and the wealth of knowledge u have!!
I will add that that the comments about engineering on fit and accessibility is one thing. But dismissing ICE engineers is an entire different ball game. All limitation parameters come from testing and repeatable results. I track my car and there for it will never see boost. Why? because under boost I would most certainly see reduced life out of the engine. Additionally, now I have to manage more heat. Straight line racing and circuit racing are two completely different animals and one puts more stress for longer duration on the engine. Take a guess which one?
Great video. My GT350 goes in this month for a Whipple, headers, etc.. You nailed it when saying car needs more power because of how good brakes, chassis, suspension already are. I can’t wait! Thanks for the video, I subscribed!
How has your GT350 held up since the upgrade?
Shocked Pika so far so good. Although I don’t drive it very often, have only put about 400 miles on it so far.. And when I do drive it, I don’t beat on it too much..
Chris Y How much horsepower did you end up getting after you super charged it?
It's gone be tore up before it gets to the next guy! Hell yeah 😂
The Engine is rated @1380HP you don't have to upgrade the internals unless you exceed.
this guy is for real!!!!!
In for when you switch to a gt350 and slap a blower on it!
GT350 is a beautiful but you nailed it, very under powered. kind of excited to see what Ford does with the new GT500 coming out soon.
Ronny S uh huh. It’s not geared for optimizing qt mile time slips. I can assure you though it’s not underpowered on a road circuit. It has a long power curve for its intended use; corner to corner.
Some folks think if you want a FI SC get the 2020 GT500. Sure the MSRP will be $80K MSRP and dealers will be adding another $20K ADM thus $100K for the GT500 that has 750HP. Meanwhile, the GT350 can be had for $65K and if you install a good SC plus labor will cost you $10K thus $75K for a car that will have from 700 to 800HP.
A big ass turbo with all those rpms 😍😍😍
I don't know shit about cars but I own a 17 GT. Half the shit you say that people asking you I just roll my eyes, dumbest shit questions many are common sense.
I love your channel and don't know how TF you don't have more subs.
I love it brotha, I own a GT350 and it’s funny because I come across the BS of stupid engineering all of the time!
Alex does Lund Racing make a swap kit for a 79 f150 4x4 to install a Coyote, what you recommend the truck version or Mustang? I am planning on buying a Gt350r what year is the best,yes I plan on putting a Kenne Bell on it,what's the deal with the different chassis numbers on the dash of the Gt350rs? Thanks!
Power by the hour does.
Hey Alex could u tell me why can’t I get my 2013 Boss above 7k in gear ....everyone gives me a different theory thx
My thought is of it was a bad idea then why would Ford do it for the gt500, I’d be interested to know if they either built the motor with this in mind the whole time and planned on boasting it for a new gt500 or that motor was proven and ford said hell with it let’s do it and call it a gt500
how close to money goal for new rear end?
My only thing is that if you do blow up a gt 350 engine it is $23,000 for a new one. I know this because I know a tech that had to replace one under warranty after the oil pressure bottomed out. So I’d rather risk a coyote engine and have the money left over to buy three more for one voodoo engine.
I have a 2017 GT350 and yes that expensive engine is keeping me from doing any type of FI on it plus I have a 75,000 mile warranty (Factory) on it which I don't want to void with FI.
For the GT 350 when boosted with e85 at 10 psi do you need fuel system too or can stock one handle it just curious?
GT/CS_Coyote I wouldn't even consider not changing the fuel system going boosted, if you dumping cash on a blower and gt350 get the fuel system LMAO
Re upload the internet engineers video plz. Twas priceless.
If I’m getting ready to swap my 88 fox. And wanting a VmP blown car. Would you suggest to go with the 5.0 Coyote as a base. Or the flat plane cranked GT350 motor?
Voodoo motor there is no crate engine option. Unless you wanted to dig for the rare totaled car where the motor is intact.
You go to the junkyard and find a low mile 15-17 f150 5.0 coyote motor..
Kraziken0 you can buy block and all from many places. Just didn’t know if it’s worth all the extra money.
Yep, you can buy an aluminator or 5.2 with cross plane crank built for boost.. for 10-15k for just the long block.. my buddy got a '16 f150 take out with pcm and harness for $2300.. he had the block sleeved and replaced pistons and rods to forged for about $3000 bucks at a local machine shop.. its running a single 80mm garret turbo..no reason to buy a ford block unless are in a time pinch or money no object..
ShitFromShinola any source for finding engine and electronics? I guess I’m not looking at the right sites
When the gt500 comes out with a supercharger or turbos, everyone will be changing their gt350!
What are some good mods for a 12 roush stage 3
I’m about to switch over to Lund. Can I request you too specifically tune my car?
Hey brother Great your stuff. question why is it that the GT 350 even when super charged or Pro Charger it doesn't produce equal amounts of torque it's always low
Short answer: uses a flat plane crack instead of a cross plane crank. It revs to the moon bc of its single side weighted crank so peak horsepower will naturally be much higher than peak torque. All combustion motors have equal HP and torque at 5252rpms. Torque is always higher than horsepower until that 5252rpm intersection. So vehicles that redline before 5252rpm will always have more torque than hp (Diesels that redline at 4K will have 800 torque and 450 hp). My cbr1000 makes 185rwhp but only 89 lb/ft but it redlines past 13k rpm.
@@MStrange88 redline can be way over 5250 and still make more trq than hp. Dynos rate highest trq anywhere on the graph, so it could be 700rw at 7000rpms and but max 800rwtq at 4500. Still makes more torque than hp.