A massive wave of nostalgia just hit me with you mentioning jet set radio. Heck the more I think about it, the more I want an anime for it. Also yeah trigger would be perfect
From a recent interview with Shigeto Koyama (an Art Director at Trigger): "think of other studios trying to make the finest foods in a restaurant, whereas at Trigger, we're okay with just continuing to make a decent burger. It's still something that is simple to make, something we're confident in making, but it's still something that everyone can enjoy. And it's also bad for you." Pretty much sums this up.
@@newwaveinfantry8362 But they're not, they're making Trigger anime. Something enjoyable, not necessarily amazing but definitely entertaining, they know how to make "a decent burger".
@@royalrampage4643 Nope. They make the finest food. Unique shows with unique stories and unique artstyle and animation. Other studios adapt popular manga and make predictible, generic anime in comparison. It's other studios that make the fast food.
@@newwaveinfantry8362 They don't, though. It's good food u'll, yeah, but not the finest. You watch their work, knowing that it'll be good and you'll enjoy it. But it's not the best there is nor is it the worst, it's just simply, good. They're animation style is unique, it's what makes them.. them. But that doesn't necessarily mean their stories are also just as good. Promare was great fun but you don't watch that for an amazing story, it was just a cool film to watch.. Same deal with most of their other works. And unpredictable? They love to throw in a Deus Ex Machina to fix an unstable plot point, usually involving Robots, Space or Aliens. Heck, Edge Runners even ends up in space Just because it's Original, doesn't necessarily mean it be will good, Brand New Animal, for example had a fun and interesting premise, the animation was fine but the story went nowhere. Or go try Inferno Cop instead, for some truly "amazing" animation. Look, I still look forward to them because I know how good they are. I just expect them to do as good as they always have and to continue making a "decent burger".
It seems like nobody remembers Little Witch Academia as a studio TRIGGER's anime (myself included) just because of now "non-trigger" the anime feels. Arguably my favorite TRIGGER's shows just because of how magical the anime feels to me.
I think Trigger's biggest issue is having a story that peaks at the middle of the show, then just goes off the rails. The characters are good, the conflicts are good, the dynamics between protagonist are good. But they just get all weird and crazy with the ending to the point of not making sense capped with tragedy and loss. Which is why I think CyberPunk ER worked as well as it did. They could only do so much in that space, it had to work in the world of CyberPunk.
The fact they are talking about studio trigger and didn’t mention Gurren Laggan is depressing that show is one of the greatest stories I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing.
I don’t know why but seems like for anime community, the image of studio Trigger is just become Trigger style = hiroyuki imaishi style. And that makes me pretty sad because they’re one of the studios that can really pull off good subtle character drama without over exaggerating or relying on dialogues to tell the story.
i also just really hate in general how people judge anime based on the studio name plastered onto it instead of actually looking at the staff. the only directors most watchers really know are like masaaki yuasa, hayao miyazaki, and satoshi kon. MAYBE naoko yamada. like studios aren't a generate anime machine they have actual people working on them and not every anime from the same studio is going to have the same people working on it.
I think what I notice is that most of Imaishi's work before cyberpunk were all too similar, when it was gurren lagann and kill la kill it felt unique, but after that they just felt a bit repetitive in elements used. So it is a good thing to have new outside influences to gain inspiration from and make new narratives around, it was a good change of pace for the people at the studio
@@marcodragneel8035 dude directed 1 thing after Kill La Kill and before Cyberpunk, which was Promare (plus some shorts for japan Anime Expo And starwars vision). if you want to say that Promare was repetitive thats fine, but like... he did one thing. IDK I think the takes from the lads are fine. I feel its kinda weird Garnt only bought up Gridman and not Dynazenon, when (atleast IMO) Dynazenon is the stronger show overall. but yeah, I think trigger has a reputation for Imaishi, and while I love his stuff, the studios other directors are also really talented and deserve more credit. Akira Amemiya did great with Gridman and Dynazenon, and Yoh Yoshinari, while their shows arent to my taste personally, is really good with more slice of life simple shows like little witch and BNA.
@@QuartzRoolz true, one name is not the entire studio staff. But you can't deny his influence on some of the things they do. Like aliens, robots, and risque women fashion taste. Stylish and tasteful agreed, but I just wanted to say that having a outside especially western influence was not a bad thing for them creativly
@@marcodragneel8035 honestly I... can deny that? the only non-imaishi show that has Aliens, Robots and risque Womens fashion in the style your mentioning is Franxx, the one outright bad show. Kiznaiver has none of those things at all, Gridman and Dynazenon do have Aliens and Robots but thats more because of the original 96 series than trigger, and Little witch and BNA have none of those things either. what Imaishi definatly does bring to trigger as a whole is an overall Push for More animation in general. trigger shows tend to move a lot more consistantly than other anime, with character design being simpilar to compensate. thats 100% and Imaishi thing, and thats what he imbued into the studio. Again, byall means, I am a trigger appologist. I really like the studio and all of their shows (even franxx... a bit...) and will go to bat for them at any opertunity. but I think people boil trigger down to imaishi tropes just because they watched kill la Kill and Promare and think thats what every series is like.
As a manga fan in defense of MHA, we were hyping up season 5 for a good reason and that's because My Villain Academia was a legitimately really good arc, but then for whatever reason, either the movie or from what i hear Japanese fans don't like villain arcs, the anime rushed the hell out of it while dragging out the other two arcs that season. Which is a shame because it's a pretty important arc and I think it took away the hype even more, though at least the current season has been good so far
MVA was decent, still overhyped even in the manga. But season 5 also was gonna start with that garbage ass Class A vs Class B arc so hyping that up for the first half season to suck was dumb anyway. But they did adapt it terribly.
SSSS.GRIDMAN was lowkey one of my most memorable anime in recent years, the ending threw me for a loop, but it was the fact that it built up to it, that there were clues throughout the story, and the question looming of whether or not these massive kaiju battles truly matter due to the city resetting but the memories of those lost being wiped out. The feeling of euphoria when that final moment hit and it all came to a realization this was just an escape, that is was someone copeing with their lives, and finding control in the only world they could. Yeah yeah, "it was all a dream", but the way it was handled, and the fact that there were breadcrumbs that looking back now if you rewatch it, you can see how everything was setup and built up from the ground, it didn't feel like the classic "OTT Trigger Ending". Yeah, it wasn't "for everyone", I'd definitely say, but there was something sincere about it, and the respect they paid to the series with not only fanservice but homage to the classics showed this wasn't "just another project". (Also Rikka's Thighs; shut up, we were blessed.)
Can’t believe they didn’t mention Little Witch Academia. That’s always been my favorite trigger show, and it’s a perfect example of what makes their stuff so good
Trigger doesn't exactly "do" season 2 in general. However do not fret, if panties and stocking is getting season 2 after 10 years all you gotta do is wait a decade for BNA season 2
How can Trigger be overrated when they only made like a couple shows in the past few years? Compared to the hundreds of other studios. One thing I know for sure, they're pretty consistent with bangers and I'm all for it
I mean, Quentin Tarantino has only made like 10 movies and is and all his work is critically acclaimed. I don't think it matters how many shows/movies a studio or person has made so long as the quality of those works are what you judge them on.
@@deuce5546 I actually think they've made some good series like their SSSS. series it's just I think Gigguk is the only big anituber that really talked about it like that
Seeing trigger adapt cyberpunk the way they did was incredible. I was talking to a buddy of mine and I said “I’m almost glad it wasn’t their original story; I feel like they would’ve found a way to make some sort of happier ending and/or to default back to typical trigger tropes.” I really do hope they embrace different types of story telling in the future, original or not, because it’s evident they can animate and convey something incredible while still maintaining their brand and doing what they do best.
Trigger is still my favorite studio, Inferno Cop and Luluco are masterpieces, LWA is probably my favorite representation of that kind of whimsical magic and their Gridverse... I just love it, it's so cool.
I don't love every Studio Trigger anime, but their highs are incredible and they're usually just stylistically what I want in an anime art style. MHA is a good series but at the same time, it feels like it rarely lives up to its full potential, and I found the Yakuza arc in particular just annoyed the shit out of me, it felt hackneyed and lacking in anything to make me care.
I think its in 6th season where things go gotham for a while since every villain is freed for a while, and deku gets a edgy look. I can see why everyone says the next season gets better, it certainly is a crescendo. The manga is on the last arc, and i gotta say, the last arc is pretty amazing so far
Honestly whenever the boys bring up MHA, I’m reminded of the fact that when Joey did his 2018 Spring ’What Will I Be Watching’, he says MHA is a great show and an awesome shonen, in regards to Season 3 coming out. But he has since said he stopped after Season 1, never watched Season 2 and didn’t even enjoy the first season that much so I have no idea what the heck he was talking about back then!
@@matthewhernandez6309I think part of the reason he does that is because he’s consumed so many different manga/anime and a lot of them can be so similar in certain ways so I think he just gets shows mixed up all the time when talking about them. Cus if you notice his memory of what he has and hasn’t seen isn’t that great hell you could say that for Connor and garnt too.
I doubt they will make a bad job. The manga is fucking amazing, and mixes so perfect with trigger's forte when it comes to comedy, artstyle and for stylized action. I was far more worried about cyberpunk but it was the proof to me they are honest and passionate about what they put out.
I feel like Trigger is like the kojima of anime. let them loose a little too much and you really have no idea what you're gonna get. You need a couple people to tell them what to do or you'll wake up one day and they'll be like "look at this silly little skull cop man, this is our anime for the season"
Trigger has some of thee most amazing talent in the industry. They are consistently a studio I look forward to seeing their next project cause its never dull. That being said after seeing CyberPunk, I whole hearty believe they can do better with slight oversight. As long as they have someone to reign them in a little their work just gets elevated to another level. There are so many projects I want them to work on now. Their in house original stories are frankly amazing but I really want to see them adapting other more western works now.
Why do people always get shocked when the show with “Academia” in the title decides to have arcs pertaining to their school? 😅 They all either lead into the next arc or cap off the previous. Like I know people hate season 5 but season 6 wouldn’t be swinging out of gate like this without it.
Bro MHA has an identity crisis. It doesn’t know what it wants to be. It could of incorporating the school theme better in an entertaining way not just shove in a school arc after a huge fight. It’s weird.
@@graycat7704 It’s not shoved in. It’s the literal central hub they always return to after an arc before going off to do next assignment that the school led them to do via exam, work study, etc. You don’t get any steady progress or half the set up of anything from any student without them returning to school.
BNA felt like peak trigger to me: A good setup, some rad battle designs, but then they always ALWAYS have the ending become this large scale fight between the protagonist and some version of an astral presence or god
Trigger’s SSSS gridman, Dynazenon, and kill la kill are some of the best I’ve seen from them, Darling in the FranXX had the right idea but also more so convoluted than usual, and cyberpunk is great
I was a bit hesitant to watch 86, because people were saying that it was slow and boring and yada yada. But then I was like fuck it, if I ain't experience it, I ain't gonna know. So I watched it and my god, it was such a good show. Start to finish it was a banger for me, from the action, to the emotions, to the animations, it was all really great. The story too, was great and when mc finally turned anti-hero, I was so hyped for everything else to come. So my take away from this is, you won't know until you try. And after seeing the whole anime, I would comfortably rate 86 as one of my top 10 anime of all time. So take what other people say with a grain of salt and don't just form an opinion without looking into it more. Who knows, you might find a show that resonates with you, even if other people find it bad.
I had the opposite experience from yours. I came in after hearing about how great it was but was just disappointed. It wasn't bad but it wasn't as good as I was hoping seeing how much everyone was hyping it up so I honestly didn't even enjoy the show. It was probably my fault for having such high expectations.
Every time, every time I look at anime opinions on a channel called Trash Taste and have a surprised pikachu face when they call good things bad or mid
As a chainsaw man manga lover, the anime has been ok at best for me. This is also my first time watching something after reading it so it may just be that. Just expect the show to keep getting crazier
To me Trigger has been on a roll since Promare ( the exception of BNA ) with SSSS. Dynazenon and Cyberpunk: edgerunners being some of the studio’s best work.
Kill La Kill is the shit, I love how goofy, over the top and then it just flips the script and goes all in with its insane plot. Also cyberpunk without Rebeca would just...not be as good lol.
Don't get me wrong,trigger is good but no one can do justice to csm other than mappa. They really put their entire A team,12 artists for ed, every frame drawn with passion,yeah I like trigger too,but i like mappa csm too
I think people would complain either way. I dont really think the vibe of csm + trigger would be a perfect mix. They could do something amazing, like some ova idk, but not the anime adaptation show.
@@Nutty_L agreed. There are some things about mappa's anime im not too happy about, but mappa's catalogue.. jjk, csm, hells paradise.. its all just SO mappa, i cant imagine those shows done by no other studio, their language just blends very well.
4:00 and style. Trigger takes a lot of influence from Go Nagai who is the creator mazinger, cutie honey and devilman. Mazinger z and other 70s super robots inspired gurren lagann of course. Kill la kill is cutie honey on adrenaline. The villains for many trigger anime they have that devilish eye look which was known from the devilman manga. This is why I pray if they can get a partnership and righrs to them that trigger makes a new mazinger z anime. Then use it to revitalize the super robot genre or mechas in general.
Watching those shows makes me want Trigger to make a Transformers anime. Given how the character designs from SSSS Gridman are references to Transformers characters. It's also nice to have a really good anime based on a Tokusatsu series. Fuuto PI came out this year but the anime community didn't really talk about it much. And as a Kamen Rider fan I thought it was eh.
@@FireFury190 I think Fuuto PI's issue is because it rides directly on the main story of Kamen Rider W, and it's hard for people that haven't watched W to catch up even if Fuuto PI gave good briefs. Gridman Universe animes use the connection loosely (until Gridman is revealed to be the original one) and the whole SSSS.DYNAZENON is entirely original.
@@feedzuh Nah I knew Double's story beforehand and still thought it was meh. The problem is that it didn't feel like a lot was accomplished. Which might be because the manga still hasn't finished and explained a lot of the mysteries set up with Shadow Fuuto. And the uncertainty of whether we'll get a 2nd season or not. Doesn't help that we only cover 4 cases in 12 episodes. Cases now take 3 episodes instead of 2 like in the original show. Though it did skip a case in the manga that was filler. So it'll likely do that in the future.
I'm not an avid follower of Garnt's anime preferences, but it's interesting that he is the one who named Kill la Kill as an all-timer & raves about Edgerunmers while simultaneously trying to convince everyone on how mid Studio Trigger is.
Studio TRIGGER is very 50/50 : Either they make a small masterpiece that leaves you wanting more like Edgerunners *OR* they make a show with a cool premise but one that peaks in the middle of its run and just sort goes off the rails afterwards like BNA and Darling in the FranXX
Darling in the frax wasn't a trigger show. Trigger helped with the premise a bit and animation on the first 11ish episodes but it was by far mostly an A-1 Pictures x Colverworks show. You can tell who worked on what in the end credits on every episode.
@@alexmartin6561 A1 was only co-production no? It was primarily animated by Trigger and CloverWorks. Which just sounds to me like A1 and trigger put the money in. And Trigger and CloverWorks made the actual show. It's why you often see IG on production staff for WIT series. Much like WIT to IG, CloverWorks is an A1 offshoot, so A1 were often on their production. They were in the middle of splitting from A1 (as A1 pictures Koenji studios) at the time, and rebranded to CloverWorks in the middle of DitF. Doesn't really change the fact that A1 was only on the production side and had nothing to do with the series as a whole. It was A1's Koenji but as their own company which became CloverWorks.
@@Livvy_lu You could be right. All I know is that trigger staff declined sharply in the second half of the show. Which is ironic since the whole space thing is a trigger staple yet it wasn't even them who did it according to the credits. It just irks me when people blame trigger for episodes that they had no role in.
2:50 HE IS SPITTING FAX. Only issue is that Edgerunners is ALSO overrated. Sadly the greatest critique of Trigger anime is from ru speaking guy but TLDR, Trigger regurgitates same plot points but somehow it gets worse and worse with each new anime. It's literally animation spectacle over story
I get what Connor is saying about 86 Part I, but I bet he would like 86 Part II. MHA as a series is fire, the anime is just strange. If another studio did it (for example, Ufotable) and didn’t do any weird bullshit with the production people would love it even more. Fuck you guys 😂😂 (I like MHA, they can dislike it, I really don’t care)
@@Indeeee Bones as a studio is great, the issue is they’ve been incredibly inconsistent with how they produce MHA. There are either fights or whole arcs that deserve better.
0:48 I’m in complete agreement with Joey. It’s so fucking mid. 1:04 My Hero is WAY better then JJK. I love the Trash Taste guys, but I completely disagree with their opinions about MHA.
its their animation its the most dynamic and its undeniebly the studio wirh the most skilled artists from an artists perspective its just the best + while the characters are always tropy they are always very well executed
I actually got into MHA when the first season was ending, and I wentahead and read ahead in the manga. At the time I was reading I think the manga was only up to around chapter 100, but a lot more chapters released before season 2 aired. Then, somewhere between chapter 120 and chapter 150, it just completely lost me, I just did not care anymore and I was struggling to read any further so I just dropped it. It was not very surprising to me at all when people told me the anime fell off after season 2, because I had the exact same reaction to the manga. MHA should be completely in my ballpark, but it just failed to hold my attention.
No one said the take about Trigger that I wanted to hear. They have strength and it’s not story telling. It’s animation. When it comes to animation, they are top 3. It’s not a simple matter of the animation being high quality, but it’s incredibly stylistic. That is the reason why Trigger has their reputation. Also Dungeon Meshi now too.
BNA felt average if you think they redo "Little Witch"... which is Trigger's ID... then Promare and so on... but Promare prepared the trails for Cyberpunk story wise... so.. it's a slow crescendo, and we want jumps in the formula... and it is a solid evolution of critique of the system...
7:09 regarding Connor's budget drama. connor tweeted a hyperbolic goof that demon slayer must have a lot of budget was on that episode and it was all jokes. this was a common misconception but most anime fans tend to take it literally because they're really not versed on how money is spread on production. This lack of understanding tend to spread and might cause something like what happened with AoT, fans would go to individual staff member's twitter handle to insult them about the budget, their work, and spread the same "budget" meme again and again even though it wasn't even the budget that was the concern. It also creates a misconception for animators that they get paid handsomely for a cut even though the common practice is that they get paid per cut and not individual frames/quality of the work. a certain animator wanted to express their opinions on connor's said tweet, a lot of trash taste fans and anitwit disagreed and left some hateful replies. and coincidentally afterwards the dude was swatted. in a fit of rage of that moment the animator could only blamed connor's fans because the qrt had a lot of negative replies. and tweeted it so. after some tweets deleted and dms to handle the situation, the animator was fine and connor sent out a twitlonger. but noone really knew who sent out a swat on him.
imo, both were innocent and twitter is just a toxic wasteland to ever be anything but wholesome. my takeaway is that trash taste is huge. huge enough for something this dumb to happen, to easily antagonize smaller organizations/accounts even if its not their intent. rn the animator barely interacts on twitter like they used to and just posts their work.
The problem of My Hero Academia isn’t because Bones does horrible animation but rather how the author writes the story. He keeps forgetting the rules of “Show don’t tell” A good example is the recent episode where Deku uses all quirks at once. Like bro I don’t need you to tell me everything that is happening on screen like “ok so I’m going to use black whip to lift everyone off the ground and then I’m going to use all my force into this punch because it all depends on me now” like bro sh*t up and show the action itself already
I'm pretty sure that is what happened in the manga, if anything the anime explains things more like how they always show the name of the quirks people have onscreen
Space Patrol Luluco is my favorite anime from Studio Trigger and I think it’s perfect from start to finish. I do agree that some Studio Trigger anime dose lose steam half way through thou.
But everything they mentioned that made TRIGGER bad or unlikeable is exactly why I love them so much lol 😂, they do crazy shit but for me for some reason your interested in where that crazy stuff is going.
for Trigger i honestly believed they were confused on how to adapt cyberpunk and just tried intently to tell a story in their own way but wasn't really the potential of Trigger's style. Because if you've seen how they built up promare, LWA, gridman there was a sort of formula they add quirks and stuff and each climactic scene had a really good impact bit by bit to make it interesting and they mastered it. for edgerunners it was like them going out of their comfort zone for cdpr money lol. they exposition dumped lucy's backstory, couldn't really get that much detail on the other side characters, and even the antagonists weren't that much of an impact of the character's self-conflict like they used to. my point is that garnt is right that trigger IS "experimenting" hell there's even a documentary of them teaching new staff shown on the production of the series because they're gonna be the new style. but i just feel like them being "overrated" is kinda wrong to a degree that everyone is more vocal about hating their shows than people loving them when they're not showing.
for a trigger fan, it's not like trigger can do no wrong it's like, trigger is such a refresh from the mediocrity of the past seasons. and it's like 90% gonna be guaranteed better animation so that's a win
MHA, in my opinion Season 1: Good Season 2: Good Season 3: First half good second half hit or miss Season 4: First half good second half definitely hit or miss Season 5: Didn't even watch the first half apart from them working with endeavor and even that was meh. Second half was good. Season 6 So far, good. I would also say it's the best season so far IMO, nothing but non-stop action. All in all, I think it's a good anime that can lose people with its slower sections. The season 3 training arc is a good example or season 4s concert arc some people like getting to see the characters in a more relaxed slice of life setting and some people will abhor it you can't make everyone happy. The fan base is definitely the shows Achilles heel though, they are something else.
I don't know why Trigger's space wars get so much hate; it's just a way to test the show's ideas with higher stakes, although the escalation admittedly is not always linear enough and sometimes has plot holes.
I would like your hot takes on do you guys think that anime can be created from a non Japanese person and still be called anime or do you guys think anime can only be created by the Japanese community?
To me, Kill la Kill and Little Witch Academia are the only one I consider to be very good. Brand New Animal shove way too many thing in the second half and same with Darling in the Franx. Egderunner is just ok to me because they don't do anything much with the entire gang before killing them one by one.
As a mha fan I'm still enjoying it and it's my favourite anime but everyone has their preferences and opinions shouldn't sway you from liking it. For me I thought jjk s1 (ep 1,12) were boring but the second half was interesting.
TRUE. Personaly, I liked alot of what they did in season 4 and 5. And even though I disagree with their mha takes, I won’t stop them from voicing their opinion.
Studio TRIGGER would be the perfect studio to do an anime adaptation to Jet Set Radio or Crazy Taxi.
A massive wave of nostalgia just hit me with you mentioning jet set radio. Heck the more I think about it, the more I want an anime for it. Also yeah trigger would be perfect
Unexpected but I'm in full agreement
A Jet Set Radio show animated by Trigger would be insane.
Or even Sonic the Hedgehog for that matter
Crazy Taxi vs Taxi Driver
From a recent interview with Shigeto Koyama (an Art Director at Trigger):
"think of other studios trying to make the finest foods in a restaurant, whereas at Trigger, we're okay with just continuing to make a decent burger. It's still something that is simple to make, something we're confident in making, but it's still something that everyone can enjoy. And it's also bad for you."
Pretty much sums this up.
I'll gladly eat it
Except Trigger is making finer anime than all the other studios.
@@newwaveinfantry8362 But they're not, they're making Trigger anime.
Something enjoyable, not necessarily amazing but definitely entertaining, they know how to make "a decent burger".
@@royalrampage4643 Nope. They make the finest food. Unique shows with unique stories and unique artstyle and animation. Other studios adapt popular manga and make predictible, generic anime in comparison. It's other studios that make the fast food.
@@newwaveinfantry8362
They don't, though. It's good food u'll, yeah, but not the finest.
You watch their work, knowing that it'll be good and you'll enjoy it. But it's not the best there is nor is it the worst, it's just simply, good.
They're animation style is unique, it's what makes them.. them. But that doesn't necessarily mean their stories are also just as good. Promare was great fun but you don't watch that for an amazing story, it was just a cool film to watch..
Same deal with most of their other works. And unpredictable? They love to throw in a Deus Ex Machina to fix an unstable plot point, usually involving Robots, Space or Aliens. Heck, Edge Runners even ends up in space
Just because it's Original, doesn't necessarily mean it be will good, Brand New Animal, for example had a fun and interesting premise, the animation was fine but the story went nowhere. Or go try Inferno Cop instead, for some truly "amazing" animation.
Look, I still look forward to them because I know how good they are. I just expect them to do as good as they always have and to continue making a "decent burger".
It seems like nobody remembers Little Witch Academia as a studio TRIGGER's anime (myself included) just because of now "non-trigger" the anime feels. Arguably my favorite TRIGGER's shows just because of how magical the anime feels to me.
Thank you! Finally someone mentioned Little Witch Academia. This anime is so underrated...
lwa is peak asf.
The original OVA was great. I felt nothing for the series since Akko was utterly insufferable and got away with it every time.
Hear hear. LWA is a fantastic anime that does everything right, but it feels like it never gets mentioned in conversations about Trigger.
@@Flared Yup people remembers Frankz which was headed and was written by A1 not Trigger.
I think Trigger's biggest issue is having a story that peaks at the middle of the show, then just goes off the rails. The characters are good, the conflicts are good, the dynamics between protagonist are good.
But they just get all weird and crazy with the ending to the point of not making sense capped with tragedy and loss.
Which is why I think CyberPunk ER worked as well as it did. They could only do so much in that space, it had to work in the world of CyberPunk.
The limitations were the show's strengths.
I feel it on post TTGL. The question that pops each time they make new title is "How can this surpass TTGL?" Most of the time they don't
@@hafirenggayuda technically studio trigger didn't make TTGL that was still Gainax.
Trigger is extremely creative. What they lack is creative control.
@@heyitsgabe1093 He meant it a sense that the core crew that made TTGL is essentially is Trigger.
Imagine if Trigger's fetish was dinosaurs instead of aliens... or maybe locomotion. Maybe even monster trucks.
Ok, hear me out: "alien dinosaurs trucks"
I'll just be grateful it's not isekai
A freaking monster truck racing anime on a different planet where only dinosaurs exist. I'm all for it.
@@gas9360 thats just transformers
@@somethingwitty2192 specifically Grimlock before and after Shockwave turned him into a Dinobot
The fact they are talking about studio trigger and didn’t mention Gurren Laggan is depressing that show is one of the greatest stories I have ever had the pleasure of witnessing.
Oh and the Eye catches are the best in all of anime.
Probably on purpose, since Gurren Lagann is a Gainax production, specifically Hiroyuki Imaishi, then went on to make Studio Trigger
Gainax
Gurren Laggan is arguably their most popular anime they have made along with.
Kill la kill
Darling of the franx
SSS gridman
BNA
@@Patintino ahh ok. I didn’t realize that was before trigger
Never forget that Trigger gave us the amazing, underrated low-budget meme that is ninja slayer.
And inferno cop
@@iguanaboi3921 and Uchuu Patrol Luluco
I don’t know why but seems like for anime community, the image of studio Trigger is just become Trigger style = hiroyuki imaishi style. And that makes me pretty sad because they’re one of the studios that can really pull off good subtle character drama without over exaggerating or relying on dialogues to tell the story.
i also just really hate in general how people judge anime based on the studio name plastered onto it instead of actually looking at the staff. the only directors most watchers really know are like masaaki yuasa, hayao miyazaki, and satoshi kon. MAYBE naoko yamada. like studios aren't a generate anime machine they have actual people working on them and not every anime from the same studio is going to have the same people working on it.
I think what I notice is that most of Imaishi's work before cyberpunk were all too similar, when it was gurren lagann and kill la kill it felt unique, but after that they just felt a bit repetitive in elements used. So it is a good thing to have new outside influences to gain inspiration from and make new narratives around, it was a good change of pace for the people at the studio
@@marcodragneel8035 dude directed 1 thing after Kill La Kill and before Cyberpunk, which was Promare (plus some shorts for japan Anime Expo And starwars vision). if you want to say that Promare was repetitive thats fine, but like... he did one thing.
IDK I think the takes from the lads are fine. I feel its kinda weird Garnt only bought up Gridman and not Dynazenon, when (atleast IMO) Dynazenon is the stronger show overall. but yeah, I think trigger has a reputation for Imaishi, and while I love his stuff, the studios other directors are also really talented and deserve more credit. Akira Amemiya did great with Gridman and Dynazenon, and Yoh Yoshinari, while their shows arent to my taste personally, is really good with more slice of life simple shows like little witch and BNA.
@@QuartzRoolz true, one name is not the entire studio staff. But you can't deny his influence on some of the things they do. Like aliens, robots, and risque women fashion taste. Stylish and tasteful agreed, but I just wanted to say that having a outside especially western influence was not a bad thing for them creativly
@@marcodragneel8035 honestly I... can deny that? the only non-imaishi show that has Aliens, Robots and risque Womens fashion in the style your mentioning is Franxx, the one outright bad show.
Kiznaiver has none of those things at all, Gridman and Dynazenon do have Aliens and Robots but thats more because of the original 96 series than trigger, and Little witch and BNA have none of those things either.
what Imaishi definatly does bring to trigger as a whole is an overall Push for More animation in general. trigger shows tend to move a lot more consistantly than other anime, with character design being simpilar to compensate. thats 100% and Imaishi thing, and thats what he imbued into the studio.
Again, byall means, I am a trigger appologist. I really like the studio and all of their shows (even franxx... a bit...) and will go to bat for them at any opertunity. but I think people boil trigger down to imaishi tropes just because they watched kill la Kill and Promare and think thats what every series is like.
As a manga fan in defense of MHA, we were hyping up season 5 for a good reason and that's because My Villain Academia was a legitimately really good arc, but then for whatever reason, either the movie or from what i hear Japanese fans don't like villain arcs, the anime rushed the hell out of it while dragging out the other two arcs that season. Which is a shame because it's a pretty important arc and I think it took away the hype even more, though at least the current season has been good so far
MVA was decent, still overhyped even in the manga. But season 5 also was gonna start with that garbage ass Class A vs Class B arc so hyping that up for the first half season to suck was dumb anyway. But they did adapt it terribly.
Mid Hero Academia
Best part so far was Miruko being a beast. Watching her go crazy was super cool and they captured the hype from the manga really well imo.
They destroyed MVA for the movie ಠ ل͟ ಠ
@@joedorben3504 Decent?
If that was decent Tokyo Ghoul is a masterpiece of an adaptation.
SSSS.GRIDMAN was lowkey one of my most memorable anime in recent years, the ending threw me for a loop, but it was the fact that it built up to it, that there were clues throughout the story, and the question looming of whether or not these massive kaiju battles truly matter due to the city resetting but the memories of those lost being wiped out. The feeling of euphoria when that final moment hit and it all came to a realization this was just an escape, that is was someone copeing with their lives, and finding control in the only world they could. Yeah yeah, "it was all a dream", but the way it was handled, and the fact that there were breadcrumbs that looking back now if you rewatch it, you can see how everything was setup and built up from the ground, it didn't feel like the classic "OTT Trigger Ending". Yeah, it wasn't "for everyone", I'd definitely say, but there was something sincere about it, and the respect they paid to the series with not only fanservice but homage to the classics showed this wasn't "just another project".
(Also Rikka's Thighs; shut up, we were blessed.)
Can’t believe they didn’t mention Little Witch Academia. That’s always been my favorite trigger show, and it’s a perfect example of what makes their stuff so good
The fact that there will probably never be a BNA Season 2 haunts me every night
Wuts that
@@royalfun1031 brand new animal, the one with the... Blue animal girl
Does it need a second season? I thought they left things off just vague enough for us to think about it
Same, i started and finished the anime today 😢
I hope someday they do make a second season
Trigger doesn't exactly "do" season 2 in general. However do not fret, if panties and stocking is getting season 2 after 10 years all you gotta do is wait a decade for BNA season 2
How can Trigger be overrated when they only made like a couple shows in the past few years? Compared to the hundreds of other studios. One thing I know for sure, they're pretty consistent with bangers and I'm all for it
because the stuff they did was often just mediocre yet people act like they are fantastic through and through
@@Exel3nce not really mediocre(for me), but okay. Well, I love Trigger but I admit it's not everybody's style.
I mean, Quentin Tarantino has only made like 10 movies and is and all his work is critically acclaimed. I don't think it matters how many shows/movies a studio or person has made so long as the quality of those works are what you judge them on.
because people forget they are not gainax while carrying some of its legacy and expectations that comes with it
Trigger is definitely overrated (for me atleast). Promare & Cyberpunk were the only ones I really enjoyed, other than that not so much.
Is Trigger really overrated? I feel like Cyberpunk is the first thing people have really talked about by them in several years.
When a studio is brought up so high for 2 good shows they've made among so much genuinely meh content then yeah I would call that overrating it
Its underrated, they consistently make some great originals.
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I actually think they've made some good series like their SSSS. series it's just I think Gigguk is the only big anituber that really talked about it like that
@@danielcarrilho5217 its far from underrated. having style isnt what makes a show great
@@Exel3nce its certainly part of it in a audiovisual medium
Tigger is just exageration, a drug infused, crazed exageration. In a good way.
Seeing trigger adapt cyberpunk the way they did was incredible. I was talking to a buddy of mine and I said “I’m almost glad it wasn’t their original story; I feel like they would’ve found a way to make some sort of happier ending and/or to default back to typical trigger tropes.”
I really do hope they embrace different types of story telling in the future, original or not, because it’s evident they can animate and convey something incredible while still maintaining their brand and doing what they do best.
Trigger is still my favorite studio, Inferno Cop and Luluco are masterpieces, LWA is probably my favorite representation of that kind of whimsical magic and their Gridverse... I just love it, it's so cool.
I don't love every Studio Trigger anime, but their highs are incredible and they're usually just stylistically what I want in an anime art style.
MHA is a good series but at the same time, it feels like it rarely lives up to its full potential, and I found the Yakuza arc in particular just annoyed the shit out of me, it felt hackneyed and lacking in anything to make me care.
After Hideout Raid the show becomes a REALLY tough sell
I think its in 6th season where things go gotham for a while since every villain is freed for a while, and deku gets a edgy look. I can see why everyone says the next season gets better, it certainly is a crescendo.
The manga is on the last arc, and i gotta say, the last arc is pretty amazing so far
@@RealLifeAlias it does until the second half of the VH arc and the arcs after did a massive drop and the last arc has varying issues
Honestly whenever the boys bring up MHA, I’m reminded of the fact that when Joey did his 2018 Spring ’What Will I Be Watching’, he says MHA is a great show and an awesome shonen, in regards to Season 3 coming out.
But he has since said he stopped after Season 1, never watched Season 2 and didn’t even enjoy the first season that much so I have no idea what the heck he was talking about back then!
I'm at least half sure Joey just says shit sometimes
I remember when they first talked about it on the podcast he said he thought the first season was solid he just didn't bother watching more
No he just says stuff there are multiple cases where he says something one time then something totally different the next
@@matthewhernandez6309I think part of the reason he does that is because he’s consumed so many different manga/anime and a lot of them can be so similar in certain ways so I think he just gets shows mixed up all the time when talking about them. Cus if you notice his memory of what he has and hasn’t seen isn’t that great hell you could say that for Connor and garnt too.
That’s the anime man for you. Back in the day he just said whatever was the popular opinion. Though I do gotta say MHA is trash.
All I know is that they are adapting Dungeon Meshi, so I hope they do a good job.
If it's anything like the trailer they released a few years back, I have high hopes.
@@royalrampage4643 Fingers crossed they do it justice.
I doubt they will make a bad job. The manga is fucking amazing, and mixes so perfect with trigger's forte when it comes to comedy, artstyle and for stylized action. I was far more worried about cyberpunk but it was the proof to me they are honest and passionate about what they put out.
I feel like Trigger is like the kojima of anime. let them loose a little too much and you really have no idea what you're gonna get. You need a couple people to tell them what to do or you'll wake up one day and they'll be like "look at this silly little skull cop man, this is our anime for the season"
Exactly, that's why the Metal Gear series is without a doubt on a whole different tier of games than death stranding.
TRIGGER's next addiction had better be tokusatsu. Because those projects have at least been focused.
I love everything about Studio Trigger's catalog. They are the peak of anime IMO - Kill la Kill, Gurren Lagann, Promare all awesome as fuck!
Gurren Lagann & Kill la Kill are in my top 5 anime, haven’t seen promare tho
Cyberpunk top 10 too
@@luisa3447 Agreed Cyberpunk was freaking amazing. Studio Trigger remind me of Platinum games - MAXIMUM FUN!
Trigger has some of thee most amazing talent in the industry. They are consistently a studio I look forward to seeing their next project cause its never dull.
That being said after seeing CyberPunk, I whole hearty believe they can do better with slight oversight. As long as they have someone to reign them in a little their work just gets elevated to another level. There are so many projects I want them to work on now. Their in house original stories are frankly amazing but I really want to see them adapting other more western works now.
Why do people always get shocked when the show with “Academia” in the title decides to have arcs pertaining to their school? 😅
They all either lead into the next arc or cap off the previous. Like I know people hate season 5 but season 6 wouldn’t be swinging out of gate like this without it.
Bro MHA has an identity crisis. It doesn’t know what it wants to be. It could of incorporating the school theme better in an entertaining way not just shove in a school arc after a huge fight. It’s weird.
@@graycat7704 It’s not shoved in. It’s the literal central hub they always return to after an arc before going off to do next assignment that the school led them to do via exam, work study, etc. You don’t get any steady progress or half the set up of anything from any student without them returning to school.
That's what happens when you get into for the hype train and not for the story itself. All they want is big flashy fights.
1:58 Don't insult Scooby Doo like that Connor, Mystery Incorporated is genuinely one of the best cartoons of all time
“Fans are saying that for sure S6 is going to be the best.”
That’s because everything changes after that arc ends.
BNA felt like peak trigger to me: A good setup, some rad battle designs, but then they always ALWAYS have the ending become this large scale fight between the protagonist and some version of an astral presence or god
Charlie was just there when they started talking about Trigger and was just like “Yeah Edgerunners was good” 😂
This might trigger some Studio Trigger fans
Nice
Kill la kill was a straight up banger that's probably why I fucking love trigger
Charlie not liking kill la kill makes me bewildered
@@thesupersucc4966he’s not infallible. He has bad taste at times.
@@Z48654 True true
Trigger’s SSSS gridman, Dynazenon, and kill la kill are some of the best I’ve seen from them, Darling in the FranXX had the right idea but also more so convoluted than usual, and cyberpunk is great
This channel really holds up to its name. Trigger is a legendary studio like Gainax was
The Gridman Universe is still the best thing they’ve ever done
I was a bit hesitant to watch 86, because people were saying that it was slow and boring and yada yada. But then I was like fuck it, if I ain't experience it, I ain't gonna know. So I watched it and my god, it was such a good show. Start to finish it was a banger for me, from the action, to the emotions, to the animations, it was all really great. The story too, was great and when mc finally turned anti-hero, I was so hyped for everything else to come.
So my take away from this is, you won't know until you try. And after seeing the whole anime, I would comfortably rate 86 as one of my top 10 anime of all time. So take what other people say with a grain of salt and don't just form an opinion without looking into it more. Who knows, you might find a show that resonates with you, even if other people find it bad.
I had the opposite experience from yours. I came in after hearing about how great it was but was just disappointed. It wasn't bad but it wasn't as good as I was hoping seeing how much everyone was hyping it up so I honestly didn't even enjoy the show. It was probably my fault for having such high expectations.
Every time, every time I look at anime opinions on a channel called Trash Taste and have a surprised pikachu face when they call good things bad or mid
As a chainsaw man manga lover, the anime has been ok at best for me. This is also my first time watching something after reading it so it may just be that. Just expect the show to keep getting crazier
To me Trigger has been on a roll since Promare ( the exception of BNA ) with SSSS. Dynazenon and Cyberpunk: edgerunners being some of the studio’s best work.
I want this studio work sakamoto days man its be crazy
Kill La Kill is the shit, I love how goofy, over the top and then it just flips the script and goes all in with its insane plot.
Also cyberpunk without Rebeca would just...not be as good lol.
Too bad that trigger didn't make the chainsaw man anime. Imagine that insanity
Don't get me wrong,trigger is good but no one can do justice to csm other than mappa. They really put their entire A team,12 artists for ed, every frame drawn with passion,yeah I like trigger too,but i like mappa csm too
Cyberpunk is shit m8
I think people would complain either way.
I dont really think the vibe of csm + trigger would be a perfect mix.
They could do something amazing, like some ova idk, but not the anime adaptation show.
@@Nutty_L agreed. There are some things about mappa's anime im not too happy about, but mappa's catalogue.. jjk, csm, hells paradise.. its all just SO mappa, i cant imagine those shows done by no other studio, their language just blends very well.
Is mappa not doing that well of a job for you after all the consistent banger episodes they've been putting out?
4:00 and style. Trigger takes a lot of influence from Go Nagai who is the creator mazinger, cutie honey and devilman.
Mazinger z and other 70s super robots inspired gurren lagann of course.
Kill la kill is cutie honey on adrenaline.
The villains for many trigger anime they have that devilish eye look which was known from the devilman manga.
This is why I pray if they can get a partnership and righrs to them that trigger makes a new mazinger z anime. Then use it to revitalize the super robot genre or mechas in general.
Gridmanverse was amazing because they toned down their trigger style and actually went normal. And also coz the story for Gridman is fucking amazing
Watching those shows makes me want Trigger to make a Transformers anime. Given how the character designs from SSSS Gridman are references to Transformers characters. It's also nice to have a really good anime based on a Tokusatsu series. Fuuto PI came out this year but the anime community didn't really talk about it much. And as a Kamen Rider fan I thought it was eh.
@@FireFury190 I think Fuuto PI's issue is because it rides directly on the main story of Kamen Rider W, and it's hard for people that haven't watched W to catch up even if Fuuto PI gave good briefs.
Gridman Universe animes use the connection loosely (until Gridman is revealed to be the original one) and the whole SSSS.DYNAZENON is entirely original.
@@feedzuh Nah I knew Double's story beforehand and still thought it was meh. The problem is that it didn't feel like a lot was accomplished. Which might be because the manga still hasn't finished and explained a lot of the mysteries set up with Shadow Fuuto. And the uncertainty of whether we'll get a 2nd season or not.
Doesn't help that we only cover 4 cases in 12 episodes. Cases now take 3 episodes instead of 2 like in the original show. Though it did skip a case in the manga that was filler. So it'll likely do that in the future.
They should make a Shanta Half Genie anime. They did made an anime opening for the game.
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i like how out of all the people sitting there the only one to have a bad take is the one called The Anime Man
Darling in the franxx is a clover works anime. Trigger was contracted for action and character design. They left before ep 20.
There is like 3 studios in Darling in the Franxx
I'm not an avid follower of Garnt's anime preferences, but it's interesting that he is the one who named Kill la Kill as an all-timer & raves about Edgerunmers while simultaneously trying to convince everyone on how mid Studio Trigger is.
Studio TRIGGER is very 50/50 :
Either they make a small masterpiece that leaves you wanting more like Edgerunners *OR* they make a show with a cool premise but one that peaks in the middle of its run and just sort goes off the rails afterwards like BNA and Darling in the FranXX
Bruh yall forgetting Guren Lagan, such a sin
Darling in the frax wasn't a trigger show. Trigger helped with the premise a bit and animation on the first 11ish episodes but it was by far mostly an A-1 Pictures x Colverworks show. You can tell who worked on what in the end credits on every episode.
@@SeaSerpentLevi Gurren lagann is Gainax. The same staff that went to trigger sure, but yes it doesn't count as a Trigger show.
@@alexmartin6561 A1 was only co-production no?
It was primarily animated by Trigger and CloverWorks.
Which just sounds to me like A1 and trigger put the money in. And Trigger and CloverWorks made the actual show.
It's why you often see IG on production staff for WIT series. Much like WIT to IG, CloverWorks is an A1 offshoot, so A1 were often on their production. They were in the middle of splitting from A1 (as A1 pictures Koenji studios) at the time, and rebranded to CloverWorks in the middle of DitF.
Doesn't really change the fact that A1 was only on the production side and had nothing to do with the series as a whole.
It was A1's Koenji but as their own company which became CloverWorks.
@@Livvy_lu You could be right. All I know is that trigger staff declined sharply in the second half of the show. Which is ironic since the whole space thing is a trigger staple yet it wasn't even them who did it according to the credits. It just irks me when people blame trigger for episodes that they had no role in.
Trigger streams on twitch right
Charlie looks like the offspring of the other three guys
I guess people forgot Edgerunners was by trigger.
2:50 HE IS SPITTING FAX.
Only issue is that Edgerunners is ALSO overrated.
Sadly the greatest critique of Trigger anime is from ru speaking guy but TLDR, Trigger regurgitates same plot points but somehow it gets worse and worse with each new anime.
It's literally animation spectacle over story
Trigger made a good call. Rebecca is amazing
I get what Connor is saying about 86 Part I, but I bet he would like 86 Part II.
MHA as a series is fire, the anime is just strange. If another studio did it (for example, Ufotable) and didn’t do any weird bullshit with the production people would love it even more. Fuck you guys 😂😂 (I like MHA, they can dislike it, I really don’t care)
The MHA anime is good, Bones is one of the best anime studio.
@@Indeeee Bones as a studio is great, the issue is they’ve been incredibly inconsistent with how they produce MHA. There are either fights or whole arcs that deserve better.
It’s not fire but had so much potential especially now
Kill La Kill and Edgerunners are easily the best Trigger shows and Gurren Lagann is also still probably the best show that director has ever produced.
0:48 I’m in complete agreement with Joey. It’s so fucking mid. 1:04 My Hero is WAY better then JJK. I love the Trash Taste guys, but I completely disagree with their opinions about MHA.
its their animation its the most dynamic and its undeniebly the studio wirh the most skilled artists from an artists perspective its just the best + while the characters are always tropy they are always very well executed
I actually got into MHA when the first season was ending, and I wentahead and read ahead in the manga. At the time I was reading I think the manga was only up to around chapter 100, but a lot more chapters released before season 2 aired. Then, somewhere between chapter 120 and chapter 150, it just completely lost me, I just did not care anymore and I was struggling to read any further so I just dropped it.
It was not very surprising to me at all when people told me the anime fell off after season 2, because I had the exact same reaction to the manga. MHA should be completely in my ballpark, but it just failed to hold my attention.
Has the Trash Taste crew seen running with the wind? Truly underrated
gotta love this!!!!
Studio trigger is the perfect studio for dandadan imo
No one said the take about Trigger that I wanted to hear. They have strength and it’s not story telling. It’s animation. When it comes to animation, they are top 3. It’s not a simple matter of the animation being high quality, but it’s incredibly stylistic. That is the reason why Trigger has their reputation. Also Dungeon Meshi now too.
Trigger knowing Rebecca best girl and keeping her.
I think the most offensive take was that Rebecca is a loli?? She's not child coded other than being short?
As for My Hero Academia
It's good, but it does NOT give Horikoshis art justice
Cyberpunk edgerunners was fire
BNA felt average if you think they redo "Little Witch"... which is Trigger's ID... then Promare and so on... but Promare prepared the trails for Cyberpunk story wise... so.. it's a slow crescendo, and we want jumps in the formula... and it is a solid evolution of critique of the system...
Space Patrol Luluco tho... peak trigger
7:09 regarding Connor's budget drama. connor tweeted a hyperbolic goof that demon slayer must have a lot of budget was on that episode and it was all jokes. this was a common misconception but most anime fans tend to take it literally because they're really not versed on how money is spread on production. This lack of understanding tend to spread and might cause something like what happened with AoT, fans would go to individual staff member's twitter handle to insult them about the budget, their work, and spread the same "budget" meme again and again even though it wasn't even the budget that was the concern. It also creates a misconception for animators that they get paid handsomely for a cut even though the common practice is that they get paid per cut and not individual frames/quality of the work.
a certain animator wanted to express their opinions on connor's said tweet, a lot of trash taste fans and anitwit disagreed and left some hateful replies. and coincidentally afterwards the dude was swatted. in a fit of rage of that moment the animator could only blamed connor's fans because the qrt had a lot of negative replies. and tweeted it so. after some tweets deleted and dms to handle the situation, the animator was fine and connor sent out a twitlonger. but noone really knew who sent out a swat on him.
imo, both were innocent and twitter is just a toxic wasteland to ever be anything but wholesome. my takeaway is that trash taste is huge. huge enough for something this dumb to happen, to easily antagonize smaller organizations/accounts even if its not their intent. rn the animator barely interacts on twitter like they used to and just posts their work.
The problem of My Hero Academia isn’t because Bones does horrible animation but rather how the author writes the story. He keeps forgetting the rules of “Show don’t tell”
A good example is the recent episode where Deku uses all quirks at once. Like bro I don’t need you to tell me everything that is happening on screen like “ok so I’m going to use black whip to lift everyone off the ground and then I’m going to use all my force into this punch because it all depends on me now” like bro sh*t up and show the action itself already
I'm pretty sure that is what happened in the manga, if anything the anime explains things more like how they always show the name of the quirks people have onscreen
I get what you mean, but it's adapted from the manga. If the manga wasn't explaining it then nobody would get what was going on
Havent seen it but surely cant get worse than hxh chimera ant arc
@@jasonjones3328 it took them 5 seasons to finally not show those characters stats cards
All battle anime do that stuff though. They always have their inner monologue explaining what they are gonna do with their moves and stuff like that
I dunno what hurts more: The MHA slander in general or the fact they STILL can’t get the seasons right.
Ses 1-3 still peak. Ive kept up with it but not as hyped b4. Hope 6 gets me hooked
@@J3strX 1-3 we’re fantastic, 4 was still solid and 5 was not paced right. 6 has been killing it.
@@captainskullkidd
That's always been my take on the seasons, 5 is the only one I thought that was all that disappointing.
@@mikemorro140 Agreed. I mostly blame the pacing for that arc.
Heh, now he'll think he actually watched up to season 5.
The first trigger production I had ever saw was the one star wars visions episode
Space Patrol Luluco is my favorite anime from Studio Trigger and I think it’s perfect from start to finish. I do agree that some Studio Trigger anime dose lose steam half way through thou.
cant believe gurren lagann was like barely brought up!!! show is awesome fr
But everything they mentioned that made TRIGGER bad or unlikeable is exactly why I love them so much lol 😂, they do crazy shit but for me for some reason your interested in where that crazy stuff is going.
for Trigger i honestly believed they were confused on how to adapt cyberpunk and just tried intently to tell a story in their own way but wasn't really the potential of Trigger's style. Because if you've seen how they built up promare, LWA, gridman there was a sort of formula they add quirks and stuff and each climactic scene had a really good impact bit by bit to make it interesting and they mastered it. for edgerunners it was like them going out of their comfort zone for cdpr money lol. they exposition dumped lucy's backstory, couldn't really get that much detail on the other side characters, and even the antagonists weren't that much of an impact of the character's self-conflict like they used to.
my point is that garnt is right that trigger IS "experimenting" hell there's even a documentary of them teaching new staff shown on the production of the series because they're gonna be the new style. but i just feel like them being "overrated" is kinda wrong to a degree that everyone is more vocal about hating their shows than people loving them when they're not showing.
for a trigger fan, it's not like trigger can do no wrong it's like, trigger is such a refresh from the mediocrity of the past seasons. and it's like 90% gonna be guaranteed better animation so that's a win
Thats why they are great
MHA, in my opinion
Season 1: Good
Season 2: Good
Season 3: First half good second half hit or miss
Season 4: First half good second half definitely hit or miss
Season 5: Didn't even watch the first half apart from them working with endeavor and even that was meh. Second half was good.
Season 6 So far, good. I would also say it's the best season so far IMO, nothing but non-stop action.
All in all, I think it's a good anime that can lose people with its slower sections. The season 3 training arc is a good example or season 4s concert arc some people like getting to see the characters in a more relaxed slice of life setting and some people will abhor it you can't make everyone happy.
The fan base is definitely the shows Achilles heel though, they are something else.
What do you guys think about promare?
Bro where the fuck did garnt get that jacket
Connor could always put subway surfer gameplay on his 2nd screen. Maybe then he would be able to finish 86
I don't know why Trigger's space wars get so much hate; it's just a way to test the show's ideas with higher stakes, although the escalation admittedly is not always linear enough and sometimes has plot holes.
Though not under their name, but since its what Kickstartered Trigger creation, Gurren Lagann is still their PEAK anime
I'm a trigger fan boy so I am always going to think their work is good but it is interesting to hear other people's opinions
I'm glad they kept Rebecca in Cyber Punk. She's a great character
Moist is such a W person Fr
I would like your hot takes on do you guys think that anime can be created from a non Japanese person and still be called anime or do you guys think anime can only be created by the Japanese community?
Studio Trigger should do an anime adaptation for Phantom Burai
Not a big fan of TRIGGER but Cyberpunk: Edgerunners was so good.
isnt gentle criminal seaosn 4?
sssgridman is hella underrated
I can't still forgive you Connor on your take on 86
To me, Kill la Kill and Little Witch Academia are the only one I consider to be very good. Brand New Animal shove way too many thing in the second half and same with Darling in the Franx. Egderunner is just ok to me because they don't do anything much with the entire gang before killing them one by one.
I've realized that I watch these videos more for the comment section and not for their trashy opinion lmao
Gentle criminal is season 4
As a mha fan I'm still enjoying it and it's my favourite anime but everyone has their preferences and opinions shouldn't sway you from liking it.
For me I thought jjk s1 (ep 1,12) were boring but the second half was interesting.
TRUE. Personaly, I liked alot of what they did in season 4 and 5. And even though I disagree with their mha takes, I won’t stop them from voicing their opinion.
Cries in Promare fire tears
ay anyone know where I can find smthn like garnts overshrit?
I THOUGHT JJK WAS MID TOO I thought I was the only one
oh no they talking about midhero
I couldn’t and can’t finish 86