One of the dopest things about growing up throughout the 2000s is the full circle 75% of us went through. We grew up loving something like Toy Story, then from ages 12-16 we got into the hardcore edge and being pretentious about it. We also looked down on the innocent kiddy stuff. And then you become an adult and find the true hidden genius of Toy Story that was there all along.
I wouldn't be surprised if every generation that has people that go through similar processes (like in that famous C.S. Lewis quote: "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up").
@@Scarshadow666 That’s a great quote. I think because we’re the first generation that really grew up with The Internet, we had access to much more adult oriented content earlier in our development. That accelerated our interest into that kind of stuff and also overexposed us to the point that we can look back and laugh about it later as adults.
As a 6 yo kid I watched Pokemon 3rd movie and it gave me nightmares. I rewatched it few weeks ago and I still quastion how was that even allowed for kids to watch.
For all it's flaws, I still appreciate that Akame ga Kill's female antagonist is irredeemable. It gets a bit tiring when every single female villain is just 'misunderstood' or can be 'saved', meanwhile Esdeath is just "no, fuck the weak and you're not convincing me otherwise". She might be a terrible person but in terms of character archetype I found her refreshing :3
You haven’t seen Combattler V, have you? The main antagonist of that series, Empress Janela, is evil incarnate! She has her underlings take hostages, create monsters to destroy cities and shit(although that part is standard for Super Robot anime) and has no qualms about killing her said underlings and putting their brains in robots! I haven’t finished Akame Ga Kill in either form(eventually I will once I remember which volume of the manga I stopped at), but from what I’ve seen, I don’t think Esdeath is as evil as Janela.
I haven't seen either Fairy Tail, Seven Deadly Sins, or Mirai Nikki, but somehow Garnt's "what if we just combine them" to get Akame ga Kill somehow makes sense to me xD
God, fucking Akame Ga Kill was just fucking bad for me in my opinion. I think even back then when I watched it, it was bad. To this day I hated the shit out of it.
Which is why it annoyed me when people said “X is the Game of Thrones of anime” purely because characters died suddenly and unexpectedly, as if that alone was enough to make a show great (GoT may have become popular through that, but that had a deeper meaning, and it was great for tons of other stuff as well). I remember Attack on Titan being given that treatment, and although that did turn out to be one of the best and most influential anime of the last decade (in other words, it did grow to be comparable to GoT for that reason), originally people only compared it to GoT because of stuff like Eren’s mom, Eren himself, and Levi’s squad. On the flip side, I remember there being a battle royale anime coming out some years ago with characters based on the Chinese Zodiac, and people were losing their minds about this “new GoT of anime.” Well, as you can tell by me not even remembering its name, it wasn’t actually nowhere near as good, simply holding up a veneer of greatness by taking advantage of the perception by edgy teens that lots of unexpected death (without taking into account anything else) is incredibly good writing.
well there is a reason coz most of the animes dont kill of their characters or save them via plot armour so thats why when characters are killed they may think so.
@@jordy.a6135 Eva actually has a lot to it thematically though. The series touched on more philisophical issues like the innate loneliness of the human condition, and the concept of the original sin, to more psychological and social themes like depression, self love, and the dangers of escapism and it did this through a complex, deeply imperfect cast of characters.
Got really into anime last year. I watched Akame this year. I really enjoyed it. It sucks to know that at 27 I have the taste of an edgy 14-16 year old.
It's alright dude. You don't have to have the taste the crowd has or someone who's popular has. I find the anime good too. And the ending is better than the manga. When people don't like something they would try to ridicule you instead so they can maintain the self-deception of them being always right.
Since you only now got into anime, I think it has less to do with age and more with just...not having seen much anime yet :) Everything is fun and exciting when it's new to you, but eventually, most people tend to find actual gems and, looking back, wonder how they ever thought that first thing they saw was good. Or you might continue to like it, who knows. Everyone has some guilty pleasures 🤭
The edgy 14 yr olds are now on the manhwa side. I swear to god those kids from Discord actually believe they can be Jinwoo from Solo Leveling or the protag from Beginning After The End if they would die and get isekai'd to another world.
I think a much larger number of edgelords are young girls now and they all congregate in the dreaded Webtoon comments. I always get so sad if I ever make the mistake of looking at the comments for Unordinary and see the absolute idiots completely misunderstanding what a character arc is and thinking John is supposed to be the good guy.
Don't forget the redo of healer fan base who believe people are trying to cancel them because their show is so dark and controversial while literally nobody gives a shit about that crap.
I think there's a place for over-the-top edgy shows in the same way that there's a place for generic shounen. They may not be good in the traditional sense but they can still be fun.
I honestly don't even know what qualifies as "generic shounen" now that I've been reading the manga for all the anime of my childhood and finding out how shit the anime adaptations were. The Bleach manga is pretty great, Naruto Shippuden is way better than I thought, One Piece is a masterpiece. The only shounen I can think of that I would say is shit in the original as well as the adaptation is Fairy Tail, and that's coming from someone who used to call FT a 10/10, right about the same time I was saying that about Akame Ga Kill and Elfen Lied. And yeah, liking the edgy generic stuff is fine as long as it doesn't colour an impressionable viewer's perspective on the world, like in Elfen Lied, the puppy scene was just so unrealistic and unnecessary. And unlike what Akame Ga Kill says not every politician is a r*pist, just 90% of them.
@@simmyyyyy123 I mean it did one of the most unique thing making a collective group the main protagonist of the story and having multiple leads from whose perspective the story is told for a majority of the show Lucy's POV is used sometimes other characters are used to but yeah your opinion is alright so I don't care
Good in a "traditional sense" is so arbitrary due to your own cultural. Like wasn't Shakespeare when he was alive considered a crude writer by nobility of time or something? Nowadays snobs love him and put him up on pedestal.
Dont know about the Anime itself, but Elfen Lied`s opening "Lilium" is probably one of the best written music pieces ever. I definitely recommend listening to the full song, cause damn its unironically amazing.
Both FT and AGK hold such sentimental value to me, I can't even hate them. I recognise they aren't great shows, but they were my gateway anime personally and I watched them 7 years ago when I was like 10 lmao
And that's what matters. I got into anime through Sailor Moon and Yamato (Star Blazers), but I'm 57. When I was a kid, I didn't even know what anime was. After learned, it was all Evangelion and Lain for me. Nowadays, I'm all for slice of life and romantic comedies and can't stomach most shounen, like, I dropped Jujutsu Kaisen after 4 episodes, it was so horrible! However, I think Demon Slayer is good, and I love Blue Exorcist. FMA (both versions) are the pinnacle, but I can't think of it as just shounen, it's too sophisticated for pigeonholing.
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 Can I ask why didn't you like JJK? I personally enjoyed it more than Demon slayer, because in Demon slayer the characters annoyed me a lot, but I do admit none of these shows are anything special really, but I like generic shonen so maybe that's why I like it idk.
same for me with Tokyo Ghoul, it's so close to my heart and I've rewatched the first season couple of times, and it was my first anime. I remember a time when I would literally not pick up any other anime to watch and just rewatch TG instead. And I don't even think it's a bad show, the manga's fairly good and the first season of the anime is still a solid 8/10 for me, but yeah, it kinda went downhill after that.
The problem I had with Akame Ga Kill was that the writing was so depressingly incompetent that they wouldn't bother developing the side characters...until 5 minutes before they died. It's almost as if the writers realized that the characters had to be developed in order for their deaths to have impact, but then took the worst shortcut possible by just putting in 5 minutes of flashbacks to explain who the character was right before killing them.
The overarching plot structure was a series of character arcs which finally develop a character to then fridge them.* Once I realized this, each arc’s conclusion became infuriating. The plot structure is so atrocious that I want to hate Akame ga Kill out of spite. I thoroughly enjoyed the manga and anime, but its incredibly frustrating to see the author mar this artwork I really liked. *I recall 1 or 2 instances where character deaths were not shit; but these were the exception
@@quadfoliumrepensv2539 I think of the chick with the pink hair and lollipop in particular. She's introduced, gets no development, then goes to try and kill one of the main villains by herself. I was thinking to myself,"She's dead, there's no way, the flashbacks will start any second." And right on queue, they start explaining how she got her magic acupuncture pins and shapeshifting magic. The pattern gets so predictable that I couldn't even pretend to take it seriously.
As an elfen lied and Mirai nikki fan to this day i can 100% agree on everything the shows are still edgy and i hold them near and dear to my heart for that
@@alchemistofsteel8099 don’t worry buddy those shows are the best of the best but hey sentimentality and nostalgia are a hell of a drug and you cant deny it. Plus its not like the shows i named where bad they are imo good but they are shlocky and ment to be watched by eadgy 14-16 y.o. who are angsty as all hell.
I hate fairy tail and I liked akame GA kill quite a bit so I have to disagree. The thing that hooked me to akame GA kill was that every fight was intense. You never knew who would win both the allies and the enemies died left and right and you never knew whether the characters that you liked would live to see the next day. It's the exact opposite of the power of friendship bullshit from fairy tale. Not even the Mc was safe in akame GA kill and that's what made every fight great
I will allow no slandering of the Deadman Wonderland manga. It is an amazing and cruelly underrated series, which deserves everyone’s attention. If you love sci-fi and psychological horror, you will have a blast reading it. On a side-note, Mirai Nikki has one of the most garbage-tier writing I’ve ever seen.
Mirai Nikki is the worst anime I enjoyed watching. I didn't see it just a few years ago and I realized that I was too old to like it. It was just so bad in so many aspects but I ended up still watching it to the end and actually got invested in it and there were parts in it I actually thought was really good. But as soon as the anime ended, my reaction was "Well that was crap!" But if I had watched it when I was 16, I'd thought it was amazing because it was well made garbage.
@sonic 1995 I have never meet someone who says that AGK deaths are "realistic" in most cases the comments are "They're sad deaths, I cried a lot, they don't deserved it" etc, etc, etc. All those type of comments are of course mostly first watchers. The time will come and they will start liking the series but being aware of its flaws and making lot of shitposting about it for the LOLS.
AKG still has a soft spot in my heart, because it was at that time different from more bloodless superpower anime shows. I knew that it was following a pattern of slowly killing characters of one after the other, but somehow knowing that made me appreciate them more.
Akame ga kill was good to me, because it show cased two aspects about war. 1. Your enemy is still human. Even though most of the enemies in Akame kill are basically written to be generic bad guy personality, it still shows a few other antagonists with nice backgrounds. For example they introduce us to a character that has a family and is quite normal, despite looking like he has a gas mask permanently plastered to his face. 2. War does not care about it's victims. People are sad that almost every character throughout the show dies, but it is somewhat realistic. In war, no one can be 100% safe, just because their the good guys doesn't mean their going to get a happy ending.
That's what I loved about it, humanizing the enemy. When a character died for either side, they always cried for them and left the viewer confused on who exactly to root for. One of the best example of what war, truly is.
AGK spoilers, I guess. The way Akame finishes the last fight when she gets Esdeath to drop her guard by making her use multiple ice shields before breaking through one, feinting a finishing blow to bait out the time freeze ability, leaving an afterimage and jumping up into a blindspot at the exact right timing to buy time and attacking as soon as the freeze wears off, is badass as all hell and makes up for like 70% of the edginess of the show.
Yeah, rewatching Akame ga Kill now made me feel like "Damn how the hell did I even enjoyed this. Guess I was just a edgy attention seeking 15 year old who thought death was cool". Aged horribly indeed for me
I feel like these edgy ones were the ones people clowned on you for not liking back in the day, but as you got older you felt vindicated for your "trash taste". Just me?
You're not right or wrong just because an AniTuber said so. What other people think or say shouldn't have any bearing on your enjoyment or your perception of a show's quality.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodCityzen It shouldn't, but everyone also seems to have Hive Mind on certain things. Attack on Titan is not my jam, but heaven forbid you have a different opinion on the internet.
I liked Fairy Tail. Nowadays when most animes have become so dark, I just feel like Fairy Tail was a feel good adventure type story, you could watch whenever you wanted to chill.
We have reached peak “anime snob”. It’s fine though, I agree with most of what was said here. I made the mistake of finishing the Akame Ga Kill manga before finishing the Anime… so when we arrived towards the end and certain characters died, my whole perception of the show changed. Shows like Elfen Lied still hold a place in many people’s hearts. It’s not a bad show, it just hasn’t aged at all. It’s just what it is… it was never a masterpiece, it was just fucked entertaining
So u like the manga ending better just coz it's the manga??? Anyway you can like whatever you want. I like the anime ending more tbh. More realistic. Not the generic hero kills villain and then lives a hapoy life with his love.
@@NCore_._ I just enjoyed the manga more. The ending of the anime wasn’t bad, it was just a deviation from the source so it threw me off and that’s what I meant. I never said it was better or worse, I just was a little lost at the time I watched. I wasn’t a big Manga person at the time and I had just really started reading light novels and manga, so seeing the changes were a bit strange.
@@justinb998 Hmm I get it. Also I agree when people become anime snob they sometimes say shit and think it's correct coz they know everything about it.
There is so much Anime. I feel like you have to be a snob in order to enjoy it. There is so much bad anime coming out, that you really have to dig to find the good stuff.
I may have to try watching Elfin Lied again, because I remember really liking it and actually always thought it had a great message somewhere in there about how inhumanely people can treat each other over any perceived difference. Also found family and all that jazz. Even if the whole reason you had to find family is because a psychotic child with psychic powers murdered them all. But as far as motivations for going psycho go, Lucy had a pretty decent one at the orphanage.
That last Incursio scream in akame ga kill had me feeling overwhelmed with emotion. Mainly cuz I just wanted to hear it one more time in the show and then my wish was granted.
I didnt enjoy Akame Ga Kill like most people did but it holds a special place in my heart. In 2015, I made an Instagram account and posted drawings so I could finally meet anime fans and be friends. I didn't really have any luck till this 15 yr old kid reached out to me. Then through him I met more artist/ anime fans. Despite him being 5 yrs younger than me. To this day, I really appreciate him reaching out to me and showing me a part of the Fandom I never got to experience as a teen. I really enjoyed talking to him and his friends. Especially after coming home from a stressful day at work. We would talk about our favorite anime airing during the seasons and more. But yeah, One of his favorite shows he absolutely enjoyed was AGK. So Anytime I see AGK, I remember that kid
I really like the Akame Ga Kill Manga (haven't read Zero yet) and the scenes that they dropped from the manga when adapting were some of my favorite parts of the story.
@sonic 1995 The anime amped up the "edge" factor by a lot. the chunks they removed/changed effected the character dynamics and motivations by a lot. The anime also killed off an unnecessary number of characters.
Akame Ga Kill destroyed me to the core. Literally, that series killed off my least favorite to favorite characters in perfect sequential order. So you can imagine when the very last character who died in that series the amount of sheer triggered it made me. Wasn't even the fact they died but how everyone else got an okay send off and this character got gimped
At least it was realistic and not cringe stuff that since he's good and one of the main characters and is powerful so he won't die and get happy ending. That doesn't happen a lot of the times in real life.
@@NCore_._ If I wanted realism, I would watch a ww2 documentary because Realism =/= Quality storytelling. Idc if Lubbock and Leone dying added the the realism, since it retracted from the story as a whole as their deaths are completely unnecessary and didn't feel like they accomplished anything. Sayo and Ieyasu's deaths gave him a reason to join Night Raid, Bulat's death strengthened Tatsumi's resolve to fight and gave him the imperial arms and Susanoo sacrificed himself to protect the others but what about everyone else that died? They died for no reason other than for sadness, shock factor and realism. While there may be nothing necessarily wrong with having a death in a series for no other reason than to be sad or for realism to increase the stakes, when you have a majority of the main cast die for no real reason, it gets repetitive and annoying quick as you can't get attached to anyone. The manga did it way better where both Mine and Tatsumi survived because in that case, the deaths that do happen are more emotionally impactful and feel less redundant than they do in the anime. All of this is just my opinion though so if you think I'm wrong that's fine, I just think death for the sake of realism is a terrible idea for storytelling.
@@kommado7677 I didn't say that death for realism in a manga is good. Nor did I say that the deaths of the character you were talking about, made it realistic. The death that made it realistic was Tatsumi's the most at least to me. A good, powerful protagonist died. But coz they spammed deaths so much earlier it rendered many of the deaths including his, less impactful. But Tatsumi dying was realistic as it showed that just coz you are the protagonist/mc doesn't mean you can't die or get a good ending always coz it definitely doesn't happen much in real life. If they hadn't made the mistake of killing just for the sake of killing earlier then his death would've been way more impactful. That's what I mean when I say the ending was realistic not the whole anime. P.S. Also I was kinda frustrated with these damn tsunderes so Mine's death wasn't gonna have any impact to me anyway and is also one of the reason I like the anime ending. Ik its kind of f**ked up but ya.
@@NCore_._ akame ga kill story started make sense when you accept the consept they are not a Hero, from the start of the series already stated they are freaking Assassin Insurgent for revolution targeting a corrupt goverment that was equally powerfull. most of the death is not meant to be beatiful many will die and the result is clear revolution need to be happen and because they are assassin their name most of the time is not recorded as they stated in the end. so it was edge anime with cool battles and gore within the context of their world is make sense.
@@NCore_._ well it hit me cause throughout the entire anime he had that promise to akame that he wouldn't die idk I thought it was impactful just like instead of fighting or assassinating, he died saving people.
(Spoiler) What annoyed me with AGK was how they treated Mine's character, they got us to really fear for her when she engaged in an epic, episode long fight to the death with a villain who until that point always seemed to survive everything thrown at her. I felt almost nervous for her and genuinely pleased when she managed to defeat her and live to fight another day... then they kill her off in literally the NEXT episode in such an anticlimactic way as a lazy way to shoehorn in a 'tearjerker' moment while he main character grieves for her...
I've seen so many Akame Ga Kill death scene edit with sad music for the past 2 years that im kinda interested in watching it, but i haven't got time for that, now i have the perfect mindset to go into show.
my favorite part in elfen leid is when one of the characters is explaining something through projection slides to a man who just had his eyes poked out.
Akame ga kill was the very first anime that I’ve watched, and I really had nothing to compare it to so I don’t remember it being bad. It’s the anime that got me into anime
It was literally the 2nd anime I watched so I was… surprised that a lot of mc live and even in general without facing death (looking at you FT). I loved Naruto’s writing until we get to the resurrection of Madara. But even before they introduced planet level enemies I had a strong gripe on how the creator had written heroines
0:30 I still remember a bit of Elfen Lied from watching it in high school. I am pretty sure I would not enjoy that shit as an adult. But I remember everyone was talking about it when it came out.
not gonna lie, I still love akame ga kill, I never thought it was deep, although I loved how in the fights anyone could die and it happened, and yes the ending sucked, but to be fair it was an anime original ending, the manga ended way better
Yes, having only seen one piece and fairy tail before AGK I was extremely surprised and impressed that characters would just... Die. And not come back later on. Like it's weird but that was such a foreign concept to me at the time
I'd like to see that corkboard of what shows you'd like based on other shows. You could get suggestions and see the degrees of separation from one show to a completely different one.
Where I had a problem for Fairy Tail is that the creator kept writing himself into a corner just to deus ex machina himself out of it. This was most evident in the GMG arc and got worse after that. Akame ga Kill's story had potential if the creator had portrayed the story differently instead of being artistically shallow or using thinly excusable Shyamalan-esque twists that derail *ACTUAL* character progression.
Say what you want but Akame ga kill was cool af, fuck the story but the soundtrack, the visuals the animations it's all amazing. Connor is right though, it does feel like edgy Fairy Tail
@@Christopher._M It was great with the ending. At least more realistic and better than the manga where it becomes all jolly good ending with Tatsumi living happily with mine and the bad guys getting killed. Rather at least the "Hero" dies and you don't get the ending you always want. Makes it more realistic and interesting.
Every anime is apparently 16 year old energy, its just because the anime series were popular so people watched it when they were younger or first got into anime. They just making up ballshit it more intense then 99 percent of anime.
I still didn't end the Akame ga Kill manga, but I remember thinking it was the most 200IQ thing in the world. Probably would hate it if I continue reading today.
I started Fairy Tail the beginning of this year and i recently took a few weeks break from watching it and during that break i watched Akame Ga Kill for the first time so what Connor Said freaked me out cause that's literally what i did :D I'm 22 years old and i did enjoy it.
I loved Akame ga Kill for having absolutely no plot armour at all. I mean where else would you see that? XD it played with our emotions quite well when we were 16
I was 14-16 when the Elfen Lied hype was the its peak and even then I thought it was gore shit and never bothered to watch it. It doesn't mean that I didn't like top tier shit that I hate today. Loveless for example. I loved it at 15, but a year ago I tried to rewatch it and was like "How the hell I loved an anime about 20 years old dating 12 year boy... "
I'll admit I do love Fairy Tail. I didn't grow up on the Big 3 and Fairy Tail was the first proper Shonen I got into (I hated Naruto and can't make it past the first 13 episodes) and something about it clicked with me. It has it fair share of issues with characters not staying dead or some other trope but I still stand that Fairy Tail is way better than Seven Deadly Sins. A friend of mine said I'd love it since it's like Fairy Tail and I've dropped that show maybe 13 times all at roughly the same point and thought it was trash. I'm reading Akame ga Kill and I can see the charm of it; interesting world, nice view of the powers being items, and some other details that could make it great but it does have that edgy feel that only teenagers who find the nihilistic themes to be deep. TL;DR I'll love Fairy Tail despite the issues it has and is a fun time with some great music
same but i enjoyed seven deadly sins but i dropped it after getting quite 100 chapter in but till that pt i enjoyed it too. i really enjoyed FT just its last fight annoyed me.
@@NCore_._ For me it was the characters. I couldn't stand anyone save for Kakashi. Naruto and Sasuke were just aggravating to watch and couldn't like them, even after reading on what they developed into I still couldn't like them. Naruto was just obnoxious and his voice was like nails on a chalkboard and Sasuke was trying so hard to be edgy for my taste, like a teenager trying to impress older people that he's mature. I could go on but the short of it was the characters that made me not even bother with it.
@@viggofuentes7856 One Piece is on my list. I've watched maybe 20 or so episodes and liked what I saw but I'm the kind of person who binges shows in one sitting so One Piece would just consume me. One day I'll watch it/read it all
Same with literature, kind of, When I was 15 and my friend was like “You have to check out his book, like 4 characters die,” for one of those YA Hunger Games rip-offs, when the super edgy dystopian fantasy was very popular, and I was like why is that your selling point? Why would I want to read a book where people die randomly for no reason? But it was super popular for some reason
I'm with those and ive rewatched it least 4 times. Different anime diffrent. Taste I suposse . I'm even a big fan of akira its one of those that got me in the animie gate basiclly.
Even today as I'm 20, I have a soft spot for AGK. It certainly ain't that good (Both Manga and especially the Anime) but I can't bring myself to hate on it entirely.
Everyone needs to watch Hazel's video called "Why Did We Like Elfen Lied?" It is probably the best video anyone has ever made about Elfen Lied, and it is one of the best anime video essays of the last few years. Super Eyepatch Wolf has also highly recommended it.
Akame ga Kill gets over hated. There, I said it. Like it's not amazing by any stretch, but I like a few of the characters enough to draw me in. I do think the Manga draws things put a bit, and it's a little insane that they had to introduce more characters because the main teams were getting killed off too quickly. I also really respected that aside from 3 characters (the 3 most important ones anyways) plot armor wasn't a thing and they didn't try and justify their killings, instead owning up to it. And uh, if you think this AgK is edgy, go read the Bakumatsu arc of Kenshin. Or really anything from the 90s.
I love Akame but that’s mostly for the manga, since that’s a completely separate ending on its own. I find that I enjoy the irredeemability most of their antagonists, as well as the protagonists in the case of Kurome. As for the deaths, yeah I’m 19 but I still find them deep.
For years I had a friend who will always say that ‘Fairy Tail is the best series ever.’ And I will kinda respond with “Oh, you mean the wannabe One Piece?” Or the ‘bootleg/knockoff One Piece’ I told him compared to One Piece, fairy tail is mediocre asf, and it’s fine if you think it’s great but you’re a frog in a well, if you think it’s the ‘greatest’. For months it was like this, but one day he started talking about one piece and how great it was. So I asked him if he was into OP now and if it’s better than FT. And he answered with, “Yes, it’s better.” He’s a huge OP fan now and I haven’t seen him talk about FT since then but I’m pretty sure he still likes it, it’s just not his number one anymore.
I remember being 11 when I first watched Akame Ga Kill and now I’m 14. The harem didn’t click with me, (basically I didn’t know there was a harem and I just assumed that him and Mine were just having an invisible arc ig? Was kinda stupid.) Lubbock was honestly my fav, I liked his death more in the manga though. Esdeath was always super compelling and I thought that Tatsumi was more than a bland anime harem protag, which he kinda is. He does have significant growth through the show and I do think that it works. I do think some of the character designs look very fanservice-y, (lookin at you, Leone.) and there is a lot of juvenile humor that doesn’t really come across as “funny” anymore, like the overdone “you walked in on me changing, you PERVERT!” Trope that… oh GOD can we let that go please?! But yeah, besides them Killing Mine and Tatsumi I think if they really wanted to change up the ending a little bit they could’ve done it differently. Also Akame is the main character for only one episode and it’s disappointing. It used to be my favorite anime of all time, but I’d consider it still in my top 5. So I’ll give it a good ol 8.5/10, and the 2nd OP and ED are Iconic.
Fairy tail with balls the kill off characters is a pretty accurate description of akame ga kill. Though they are both pretty bad shows. One of my many issues with fairy tail is that it never had the guts to kill off anybody at least not in the 100+ episodes I watched, while it was all too willing to play along the line and come up with some bs friendship reason for the characters to survive everytime therefore eliminating any stakes and tension. Akame ga kill somehow has the opposite issue were it tries to use killing off almost everybody as a substitute for any substance. They also tried to trick you into caring about the characters by showing some tragic flashback just before they died. But not only that make it painfully obvious when someone was about to die but it also somehow made me care even less about the characters. I might have enjoyed it if I found it at a younger age but at 18/19 it was pretty painful to watch.
yeah, ft had some fcking bad ass and unique moments and plotpoints, espeically about killing and reviving a character, but the longer it went the more absurd it got
Fairy tail isn't about deaths or being edgy. It's literally about the bonds that the guilds help create between strangers who come from different places with different experiences. I personally thought it was beautiful how the Fairy tail guild was portrayed. It went beyond being a guild. It became a home and a family for all kind of people with all kind of pasts. What you cans say is that it is cheesy
No the not the plot, themes, the concept, the vibe of Fairy tail and Akame Ga Kill aren't remotely alike. Fairy tail is about wizard gild who goes on quests, Similar RPG. The show feature dozens of wizards, over 40 wizzards alone in Fairytale the show quite goofy. Besides the dramatic parts. The feel of fairytale is like if mix comedy of looney toons with X-men and made it an anime. Akame ga kill is about guy who family got killed by the rich and he join a group of people trying over throw the corrupt rich, The show is very dark. The show aren't remotely alike in any form. Also fairytale does kill off characters most of The magic council dies, ultear sacrifice her life, Zera dies....just few examples. Hell even first 100 eps Grey master Ur dies, Lucy father dies and Simon the brother of Kagura and Erza friend dies. So that isn't correct either. Joey admitted he didn't get past ep 60 of fairytale which means he know very little of the show, Fairytale is probably in my top 10 favorite Anime, and I literally hate Akame Ga Kill. The boi's here are literally just using fairy tail as meme for something they don't like, and just randomly comparing to it Akame ga kill in which they actually have nothing in common, but people are so dumb they talking it literal.
Lmao!! Dude I hate fairytail for that reason. 'The power of friendship' can only be used so many times. It completely ruins any power scaling it tried to establish. Exactly why I cant watch Dragan ball super. The power scaling is just obliterated and can never be salvaged. Not even by giving Vegeta his own things. Dragon ball z was great as a kid but these things are just too big for me to overlook now. Akame ga kill was the first anime I watched that didnt mind killing everyone so I enjoyed it.
I watched elfen lied when I was like 12 and now that I'm 20 I'm still in love with it and still Consider it my favorite anime like I even have a tattoo of Lucy's mask
I feel you there lol they crap on akira aswell and that was like my start into the animie world. I want to say maybe its the younger peeps for the most part that hate it. "Most"
I like Akame Ga Kill and Future Diary. For fans of these series do you have any other recommendations? For critics of these series are there any anime that are dark and thrilling but you think are better?
Thanks for the recs gang I did enjoy Berserk and I'll check out GANTZ. Are there any Future Diary and Akame fans who have recs for anime with similar vibes? I can tolerate plot holes if the ride is fun.
Man, as someone that never grew up with stuff like Akame Ga Kill, Elfen Lied and other similar shows, it feels weird reading this entire comment section 😅 Not to say I wasn't into some edgy shit when I was 16-17, but I almost kinda wish I discovered these shows while going through my own "mom it's not a phase" period. I did give Akame a try some time ago, but dropped it around the halfway point. It just didn't hook me up and with how killer happy it was, it just made me disinterested in how things were going to continue. I guess you really need that teen nostalgia to appreciate stuff like it. Esdeath still bae, though.
I've met too many people who love Fairy Tail but don't watch/read HxH or One Piece because "it looks boring" or "the artstyle is ugly" Like how can these posers pretend that Fairy Tail is deep(it's not) but then have such shallow preconceptions about objectively better series?? It blows my mind that some people are so braindead.
I love when they talk about different generations of anime fandoms. it's really interesting as someone who wasn't into anime until, but accidentally stumbled over anime discourse a lot. I think I couldn't get into anime when I was first really interested in doing so because the discourse was dominated by stuff 14 year old boys thought was cool. and I was a pretentious kid who saw Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex, Paranoia Agent, and Baccano and went "ah why can't more anime be ~elevated~ like this?" fairly certain I would've bounced hard off Elfen Lied, Mirai Nikki, or Akame ga Kill.
I saw Mirai Nikki at the age of like 20/21, my first ever anime as an adult (aka no pokemon/digimon/sailormoon being accounted for as a kid), and imo I thought it was great and a great gateway into anime, because it has it all. The gore, the fun, the romance, the 'deres, the plot, the schemes. Like every anime since had has some of it. Idk, I'm satisfied with it. It's a great anime.
The worst thing is that Akame ga Kill is still popular and getting recommended and people are saying it’s sad and shit, stop recommending Akame ga Kill.
Elfen Lied was my first "real" anime. My second was Higurashi and my third was Mirai Nikki. I was an edgy little shit and would seek the goriest stuff and scoff at romance as it was "for girls" (even though I am one). Fast forward 10 years, tried to rewatch Elfen Lied but couldn't stand the cringe, my favorite anime is Clannad and seeing my ships interact makes me squeal like an idiot
While I love fairy tail and I enjoyed Akame ga Kill the first time I saw it, I began to like it a lot less when I realized how many deviations the anime had to make from the manga because they caught up to the source material too quickly. But I think it also kinda had a sort of "game of thrones" element to it where after a certain episode you realized that just about none of the characters were safe from getting killed off and that made it kinda exciting even if it wasn't a very thought provoking show.
I mean I dislike the fact that just if an anime is different than the manga that it has to be shit. The ending was realistic than the manga as you said no one was safe. Not even the hero. As being a hero or good doesn't guarantee you a good ending in real life either.
@@NCore_._ they are not a hero what people missed is infact from the start they introduced themself as a grup of assasin in an attempt for a revolution against a goverment that was equally powerfull and any frontal attack will come at a great loss. the ending within that context is realistic. but many was in hopium for akame ga kill to be a hero story just like many other predecessor that presented the villain stated as powerfull but dumb enough to losing in frontal attack just because the hero was present.
I admit, I liked a lot of Seinen when I was younger that I look back on and was like "This is all just blood and nudity" which I can almost appreciate now in a macabre kind of way but no way do I find most of them to be as interesting as when I was that age.
My biggest issue with Akame Ga Kill is that you could predict how it was gonna end by episode 4, it's why I call 86 the new Akame Ga Kill... It follows a set formula that becomes extremely obvious and that removes all tension.
One of the dopest things about growing up throughout the 2000s is the full circle 75% of us went through. We grew up loving something like Toy Story, then from ages 12-16 we got into the hardcore edge and being pretentious about it. We also looked down on the innocent kiddy stuff. And then you become an adult and find the true hidden genius of Toy Story that was there all along.
Yes. Totally.
yOU GOt A FrIENd iN ME
I wouldn't be surprised if every generation that has people that go through similar processes (like in that famous C.S. Lewis quote: "When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up").
@@Scarshadow666 That’s a great quote. I think because we’re the first generation that really grew up with The Internet, we had access to much more adult oriented content earlier in our development. That accelerated our interest into that kind of stuff and also overexposed us to the point that we can look back and laugh about it later as adults.
As a 6 yo kid I watched Pokemon 3rd movie and it gave me nightmares. I rewatched it few weeks ago and I still quastion how was that even allowed for kids to watch.
For all it's flaws, I still appreciate that Akame ga Kill's female antagonist is irredeemable. It gets a bit tiring when every single female villain is just 'misunderstood' or can be 'saved', meanwhile Esdeath is just "no, fuck the weak and you're not convincing me otherwise". She might be a terrible person but in terms of character archetype I found her refreshing :3
There aren't female villains to begin with though I can't think of a lot female villlains of the top of my head only 2 actually excluding Esdeath
@@parma3925 well then you just haven’t watched much anime lol. I can send you a few if you’d like.
@@sobokgaming8476 Well please do
@@parma3925 diva from blood+?
You haven’t seen Combattler V, have you? The main antagonist of that series, Empress Janela, is evil incarnate! She has her underlings take hostages, create monsters to destroy cities and shit(although that part is standard for Super Robot anime) and has no qualms about killing her said underlings and putting their brains in robots! I haven’t finished Akame Ga Kill in either form(eventually I will once I remember which volume of the manga I stopped at), but from what I’ve seen, I don’t think Esdeath is as evil as Janela.
I haven't seen either Fairy Tail, Seven Deadly Sins, or Mirai Nikki, but somehow Garnt's "what if we just combine them" to get Akame ga Kill somehow makes sense to me xD
God, fucking Akame Ga Kill was just fucking bad for me in my opinion. I think even back then when I watched it, it was bad.
To this day I hated the shit out of it.
@@TheDarkkilla12 that’s fine, I love it and you can hate it and that's okay
a shame the ost is fcking fantastic but was wasted on...that
@@HearMeLearn as long as you dont think its good
You never watched Mirai Nikki? Go yourself a favour and watch it
"A character dies"
Cringy teens: I'm 14 and this is deep
Evangelion fans:
Which is why it annoyed me when people said “X is the Game of Thrones of anime” purely because characters died suddenly and unexpectedly, as if that alone was enough to make a show great (GoT may have become popular through that, but that had a deeper meaning, and it was great for tons of other stuff as well). I remember Attack on Titan being given that treatment, and although that did turn out to be one of the best and most influential anime of the last decade (in other words, it did grow to be comparable to GoT for that reason), originally people only compared it to GoT because of stuff like Eren’s mom, Eren himself, and Levi’s squad.
On the flip side, I remember there being a battle royale anime coming out some years ago with characters based on the Chinese Zodiac, and people were losing their minds about this “new GoT of anime.” Well, as you can tell by me not even remembering its name, it wasn’t actually nowhere near as good, simply holding up a veneer of greatness by taking advantage of the perception by edgy teens that lots of unexpected death (without taking into account anything else) is incredibly good writing.
well there is a reason coz most of the animes dont kill of their characters or save them via plot armour so thats why when characters are killed they may think so.
Randomly murdering characters that have had like 5 lines is the definition of deep and excellent writing.
@@jordy.a6135 Eva actually has a lot to it thematically though. The series touched on more philisophical issues like the innate loneliness of the human condition, and the concept of the original sin, to more psychological and social themes like depression, self love, and the dangers of escapism and it did this through a complex, deeply imperfect cast of characters.
Got really into anime last year. I watched Akame this year. I really enjoyed it. It sucks to know that at 27 I have the taste of an edgy 14-16 year old.
It's alright dude. You don't have to have the taste the crowd has or someone who's popular has. I find the anime good too. And the ending is better than the manga. When people don't like something they would try to ridicule you instead so they can maintain the self-deception of them being always right.
*pats on the back*
It's ok trooper
Its fine everyone starts somewhere! only way forwards is deeper in the swamp that is anime.
Don't worry, some people just like to act pretentious
Since you only now got into anime, I think it has less to do with age and more with just...not having seen much anime yet :)
Everything is fun and exciting when it's new to you, but eventually, most people tend to find actual gems and, looking back, wonder how they ever thought that first thing they saw was good.
Or you might continue to like it, who knows. Everyone has some guilty pleasures 🤭
The edgy 14 yr olds are now on the manhwa side. I swear to god those kids from Discord actually believe they can be Jinwoo from Solo Leveling or the protag from Beginning After The End if they would die and get isekai'd to another world.
As a person who has been constantly yelled at by some 14 yr old Discord kid to read manhwa, I can confirm this is accurate
manhwa got the same fanbase as kpop its so fuckin cringy
I think a much larger number of edgelords are young girls now and they all congregate in the dreaded Webtoon comments. I always get so sad if I ever make the mistake of looking at the comments for Unordinary and see the absolute idiots completely misunderstanding what a character arc is and thinking John is supposed to be the good guy.
That sound snobbish af not gonna lie
Don't forget the redo of healer fan base who believe people are trying to cancel them because their show is so dark and controversial while literally nobody gives a shit about that crap.
I'm deep and this is 14
FBI open up
Hi deep im dad
Ayo?
Lmao
Fk why did I open the replies?
I think there's a place for over-the-top edgy shows in the same way that there's a place for generic shounen. They may not be good in the traditional sense but they can still be fun.
though Fairy Tail wasn't generic infact it's setting and overall world is rather unique compared to stuff that came out back then
I honestly don't even know what qualifies as "generic shounen" now that I've been reading the manga for all the anime of my childhood and finding out how shit the anime adaptations were. The Bleach manga is pretty great, Naruto Shippuden is way better than I thought, One Piece is a masterpiece. The only shounen I can think of that I would say is shit in the original as well as the adaptation is Fairy Tail, and that's coming from someone who used to call FT a 10/10, right about the same time I was saying that about Akame Ga Kill and Elfen Lied. And yeah, liking the edgy generic stuff is fine as long as it doesn't colour an impressionable viewer's perspective on the world, like in Elfen Lied, the puppy scene was just so unrealistic and unnecessary. And unlike what Akame Ga Kill says not every politician is a r*pist, just 90% of them.
@@Aman_Mondal nah I feel like fairy tail is pretty generic
Might be fun to watch but it wasn't doing anything new
@@simmyyyyy123 I mean it did one of the most unique thing making a collective group the main protagonist of the story and having multiple leads from whose perspective the story is told for a majority of the show Lucy's POV is used sometimes other characters are used to but yeah your opinion is alright so I don't care
Good in a "traditional sense" is so arbitrary due to your own cultural. Like wasn't Shakespeare when he was alive considered a crude writer by nobility of time or something? Nowadays snobs love him and put him up on pedestal.
You can’t lie that “masked liar” is a opening you cannot skip
Now say the same but in english.
on god
Yes
Liar mask fucking slaps
More a “Skyreach” person myself
*Fun Fact:* Lots of people (teenagers) still love and praise Akame ga Kill
despite its terrible execution (no pun intended) of its last few episodes
The journey of Akame ga kill was cool, but why is the series named after the most boring character in the show
I didn’t feel anyway towards any of there deaths tbh
this comment seems to imply that the execution was any better even before the end.... xD
its funny bc i watched this when i was around 15-16 and enjoyed it only till i found out about the manga did i think the anime was pretty good
The last ep fight was amazing , the animation and soundtracks are very good , akame ga kill is nowhere a bad anime , its at least 7/10
Dont know about the Anime itself, but Elfen Lied`s opening "Lilium" is probably one of the best written music pieces ever.
I definitely recommend listening to the full song, cause damn its unironically amazing.
I am Cypriot and I was surprised they spoke Greek there and I understood it
I always cry when listening to the music box rendition.
Dont forget the Akame ga kill ost 😤
@@sadkritx6200 indeed
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 For the past 15 years I've been thinking they spoke latin 🧐
Both FT and AGK hold such sentimental value to me, I can't even hate them. I recognise they aren't great shows, but they were my gateway anime personally and I watched them 7 years ago when I was like 10 lmao
And that's what matters. I got into anime through Sailor Moon and Yamato (Star Blazers), but I'm 57. When I was a kid, I didn't even know what anime was. After learned, it was all Evangelion and Lain for me. Nowadays, I'm all for slice of life and romantic comedies and can't stomach most shounen, like, I dropped Jujutsu Kaisen after 4 episodes, it was so horrible! However, I think Demon Slayer is good, and I love Blue Exorcist. FMA (both versions) are the pinnacle, but I can't think of it as just shounen, it's too sophisticated for pigeonholing.
@@mariadocarmosobreira8323 Can I ask why didn't you like JJK? I personally enjoyed it more than Demon slayer, because in Demon slayer the characters annoyed me a lot, but I do admit none of these shows are anything special really, but I like generic shonen so maybe that's why I like it idk.
same for me with Tokyo Ghoul, it's so close to my heart and I've rewatched the first season couple of times, and it was my first anime. I remember a time when I would literally not pick up any other anime to watch and just rewatch TG instead. And I don't even think it's a bad show, the manga's fairly good and the first season of the anime is still a solid 8/10 for me, but yeah, it kinda went downhill after that.
The problem I had with Akame Ga Kill was that the writing was so depressingly incompetent that they wouldn't bother developing the side characters...until 5 minutes before they died. It's almost as if the writers realized that the characters had to be developed in order for their deaths to have impact, but then took the worst shortcut possible by just putting in 5 minutes of flashbacks to explain who the character was right before killing them.
The overarching plot structure was a series of character arcs which finally develop a character to then fridge them.* Once I realized this, each arc’s conclusion became infuriating.
The plot structure is so atrocious that I want to hate Akame ga Kill out of spite. I thoroughly enjoyed the manga and anime, but its incredibly frustrating to see the author mar this artwork I really liked.
*I recall 1 or 2 instances where character deaths were not shit; but these were the exception
@@quadfoliumrepensv2539 I think of the chick with the pink hair and lollipop in particular. She's introduced, gets no development, then goes to try and kill one of the main villains by herself. I was thinking to myself,"She's dead, there's no way, the flashbacks will start any second." And right on queue, they start explaining how she got her magic acupuncture pins and shapeshifting magic. The pattern gets so predictable that I couldn't even pretend to take it seriously.
As an elfen lied and Mirai nikki fan to this day i can 100% agree on everything the shows are still edgy and i hold them near and dear to my heart for that
100% agree as a 23 year old. These shows will forever come to mind when I think about anime.
I wish people were this die hard for good edgy shows like Black lagoon, Dorhedoro and Cyberpunk but I guess nostalgia glasses do be like that
@@alchemistofsteel8099 don’t worry buddy those shows are the best of the best but hey sentimentality and nostalgia are a hell of a drug and you cant deny it. Plus its not like the shows i named where bad they are imo good but they are shlocky and ment to be watched by eadgy 14-16 y.o. who are angsty as all hell.
I can’t explain why, but Connor’s Fairy Tail/akame ga kill anaology is SPOT ON.
Can u explain why cuz I enjoy the Manga for Akame Ga Kill but I’ve never seen Fairy Tail so could u explain if possible
@@sonanjamfa8845 well give it a try youll probably love it lol
I hate fairy tail and I liked akame GA kill quite a bit so I have to disagree. The thing that hooked me to akame GA kill was that every fight was intense. You never knew who would win both the allies and the enemies died left and right and you never knew whether the characters that you liked would live to see the next day.
It's the exact opposite of the power of friendship bullshit from fairy tale. Not even the Mc was safe in akame GA kill and that's what made every fight great
no
@@kretisy or get bored of it
I find it funny when people put some edgy rap music over a romcom and they type add something about girls on the title
Haven't seen anything like that, mind giving a link to one?
@@Edagui97 this was the one i based my comment ua-cam.com/video/CG8ucav19Ew/v-deo.html
@@bravestant3921 Love the shirt of the guy, the period after "DEAD" really pulls the whole thing together.
@@bravestant3921 god I love these videos. something about the editing is just so satisfying
@@bravestant3921 Bruh that's my favourite song from ronin and i aint an edgy kid who is depressed about girls and other shit, i just like the song
As an Akame Ga Kill fan, I never cared to even give Fairy Tale a chance.
Yeah, it mostly goes the other way.
I'm with ya
I will allow no slandering of the Deadman Wonderland manga. It is an amazing and cruelly underrated series, which deserves everyone’s attention. If you love sci-fi and psychological horror, you will have a blast reading it.
On a side-note, Mirai Nikki has one of the most garbage-tier writing I’ve ever seen.
I've heard the manga is very solid up until the supposed "rushed" ending people have mentioned here and there
I just discovered people hate Mirai Nikki, I only watched it when I was 12 or so and never again. So in my mind its great xd
mirai nikki had this captivating effect tho. It's not that bad
Mirai Nikki is the worst anime I enjoyed watching. I didn't see it just a few years ago and I realized that I was too old to like it. It was just so bad in so many aspects but I ended up still watching it to the end and actually got invested in it and there were parts in it I actually thought was really good. But as soon as the anime ended, my reaction was "Well that was crap!" But if I had watched it when I was 16, I'd thought it was amazing because it was well made garbage.
only thing I remember about Mirai Nikki is how annoying the main character was, like holy hell I wanted him to shut up
Garnt says all this while loving Oreimo. I’ve heard enough
modern masterpiece
Its called trash taste for a reason xD
"Oh my god guys the cute anime girl got her head stuck in a spear 10/10 this is deep"
They said she could be anything
So she became a lollipop
>Doesn't know that most AGK fans love to make shitpost about that scene and laugh about it
@sonic 1995
I have never meet someone who says that AGK deaths are "realistic" in most cases the comments are "They're sad deaths, I cried a lot, they don't deserved it" etc, etc, etc. All those type of comments are of course mostly first watchers. The time will come and they will start liking the series but being aware of its flaws and making lot of shitposting about it for the LOLS.
AKG still has a soft spot in my heart, because it was at that time different from more bloodless superpower anime shows.
I knew that it was following a pattern of slowly killing characters of one after the other, but somehow knowing that made me appreciate them more.
Akame ga kill was good to me, because it show cased two aspects about war.
1. Your enemy is still human. Even though most of the enemies in Akame kill are basically written to be generic bad guy personality, it still shows a few other antagonists with nice backgrounds. For example they introduce us to a character that has a family and is quite normal, despite looking like he has a gas mask permanently plastered to his face.
2. War does not care about it's victims. People are sad that almost every character throughout the show dies, but it is somewhat realistic. In war, no one can be 100% safe, just because their the good guys doesn't mean their going to get a happy ending.
That's what I loved about it, humanizing the enemy. When a character died for either side, they always cried for them and left the viewer confused on who exactly to root for. One of the best example of what war, truly is.
Also you know if you read the manga it's pretty good, god the anime really failed.
Got did it better
@@Galvatronover remember the final season, buddy? LMAO
It was one of my first anime when I was 14 and I just checked MAL and I rated it a 9/10🤣🤣
LMAOOO
The best thing about Elfen Lied was the intro
Agreed and I don't know why I still cry to that opening
Lilium is fire
Intro was so good that literally every ost are just a different version of it
Exactly
I agree but I’d still rather just look at Gustav Klimt stuff in an art museum.
AGK spoilers, I guess. The way Akame finishes the last fight
when she gets Esdeath to drop her guard by making her use multiple ice shields before breaking through one, feinting a finishing blow to bait out the time freeze ability, leaving an afterimage and jumping up into a blindspot at the exact right timing to buy time and attacking as soon as the freeze wears off, is badass as all hell and makes up for like 70% of the edginess of the show.
Yeah, rewatching Akame ga Kill now made me feel like "Damn how the hell did I even enjoyed this. Guess I was just a edgy attention seeking 15 year old who thought death was cool". Aged horribly indeed for me
Akame ga Kill's selling point was the character chemistry.
That, and the huge shipping wars on /a/ back in 2015 - 2016.
After reading the manga for Akame Ga Kill the anime just makes me sad because EVERYBODY DIES
I watched Akame ga kill for the tall, psychotic, blue haired, girl
@@Jacktherippa84 i remember enjoying the character chemistry less because they keep dying on us
@@Eclin It was mostly the beginning characters, but yeah, the additions later on fell flat.
"I'm 14 and this is deep"
*That's what she said*
FBI OPEN UP!!
I feel like these edgy ones were the ones people clowned on you for not liking back in the day, but as you got older you felt vindicated for your "trash taste". Just me?
I drop Elfen Leid after the first episode with everyone in my circle telling me I was the weird one...
yeah FT was gd though it had problems who cares man i enjoyed it thats what matters.
Taste is subjective so
You're not right or wrong just because an AniTuber said so. What other people think or say shouldn't have any bearing on your enjoyment or your perception of a show's quality.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodCityzen It shouldn't, but everyone also seems to have Hive Mind on certain things. Attack on Titan is not my jam, but heaven forbid you have a different opinion on the internet.
I liked Fairy Tail. Nowadays when most animes have become so dark, I just feel like Fairy Tail was a feel good adventure type story, you could watch whenever you wanted to chill.
Props to Connor for enjoying things just for the sake of enjoying them
We have reached peak “anime snob”. It’s fine though, I agree with most of what was said here. I made the mistake of finishing the Akame Ga Kill manga before finishing the Anime… so when we arrived towards the end and certain characters died, my whole perception of the show changed.
Shows like Elfen Lied still hold a place in many people’s hearts. It’s not a bad show, it just hasn’t aged at all. It’s just what it is… it was never a masterpiece, it was just fucked entertaining
Elfen Lied is probably not as good as I thought back then, but "Lilium" will forever be one of the best anime theme songs of all time for me.
So u like the manga ending better just coz it's the manga??? Anyway you can like whatever you want. I like the anime ending more tbh. More realistic. Not the generic hero kills villain and then lives a hapoy life with his love.
@@NCore_._ I just enjoyed the manga more. The ending of the anime wasn’t bad, it was just a deviation from the source so it threw me off and that’s what I meant. I never said it was better or worse, I just was a little lost at the time I watched. I wasn’t a big Manga person at the time and I had just really started reading light novels and manga, so seeing the changes were a bit strange.
@@justinb998 Hmm I get it. Also I agree when people become anime snob they sometimes say shit and think it's correct coz they know everything about it.
There is so much Anime. I feel like you have to be a snob in order to enjoy it. There is so much bad anime coming out, that you really have to dig to find the good stuff.
I may have to try watching Elfin Lied again, because I remember really liking it and actually always thought it had a great message somewhere in there about how inhumanely people can treat each other over any perceived difference.
Also found family and all that jazz. Even if the whole reason you had to find family is because a psychotic child with psychic powers murdered them all.
But as far as motivations for going psycho go, Lucy had a pretty decent one at the orphanage.
That last Incursio scream in akame ga kill had me feeling overwhelmed with emotion. Mainly cuz I just wanted to hear it one more time in the show and then my wish was granted.
I didnt enjoy Akame Ga Kill like most people did but it holds a special place in my heart. In 2015, I made an Instagram account and posted drawings so I could finally meet anime fans and be friends. I didn't really have any luck till this 15 yr old kid reached out to me. Then through him I met more artist/ anime fans.
Despite him being 5 yrs younger than me. To this day, I really appreciate him reaching out to me and showing me a part of the Fandom I never got to experience as a teen. I really enjoyed talking to him and his friends. Especially after coming home from a stressful day at work. We would talk about our favorite anime airing during the seasons and more. But yeah, One of his favorite shows he absolutely enjoyed was AGK. So Anytime I see AGK, I remember that kid
i want a "if you liked x show then you'll like y show" cork board after dark episode
I really like the Akame Ga Kill Manga (haven't read Zero yet) and the scenes that they dropped from the manga when adapting were some of my favorite parts of the story.
Same. I couldn't put the manga down when I was reading it.
@sonic 1995 The anime amped up the "edge" factor by a lot. the chunks they removed/changed effected the character dynamics and motivations by a lot. The anime also killed off an unnecessary number of characters.
Akame Ga Kill destroyed me to the core. Literally, that series killed off my least favorite to favorite characters in perfect sequential order. So you can imagine when the very last character who died in that series the amount of sheer triggered it made me. Wasn't even the fact they died but how everyone else got an okay send off and this character got gimped
At least it was realistic and not cringe stuff that since he's good and one of the main characters and is powerful so he won't die and get happy ending. That doesn't happen a lot of the times in real life.
@@NCore_._ If I wanted realism, I would watch a ww2 documentary because Realism =/= Quality storytelling. Idc if Lubbock and Leone dying added the the realism, since it retracted from the story as a whole as their deaths are completely unnecessary and didn't feel like they accomplished anything. Sayo and Ieyasu's deaths gave him a reason to join Night Raid, Bulat's death strengthened Tatsumi's resolve to fight and gave him the imperial arms and Susanoo sacrificed himself to protect the others but what about everyone else that died? They died for no reason other than for sadness, shock factor and realism. While there may be nothing necessarily wrong with having a death in a series for no other reason than to be sad or for realism to increase the stakes, when you have a majority of the main cast die for no real reason, it gets repetitive and annoying quick as you can't get attached to anyone. The manga did it way better where both Mine and Tatsumi survived because in that case, the deaths that do happen are more emotionally impactful and feel less redundant than they do in the anime.
All of this is just my opinion though so if you think I'm wrong that's fine, I just think death for the sake of realism is a terrible idea for storytelling.
@@kommado7677 I didn't say that death for realism in a manga is good. Nor did I say that the deaths of the character you were talking about, made it realistic. The death that made it realistic was Tatsumi's the most at least to me. A good, powerful protagonist died. But coz they spammed deaths so much earlier it rendered many of the deaths including his, less impactful. But Tatsumi dying was realistic as it showed that just coz you are the protagonist/mc doesn't mean you can't die or get a good ending always coz it definitely doesn't happen much in real life. If they hadn't made the mistake of killing just for the sake of killing earlier then his death would've been way more impactful. That's what I mean when I say the ending was realistic not the whole anime.
P.S. Also I was kinda frustrated with these damn tsunderes so Mine's death wasn't gonna have any impact to me anyway and is also one of the reason I like the anime ending. Ik its kind of f**ked up but ya.
@@NCore_._ akame ga kill story started make sense when you accept the consept they are not a Hero, from the start of the series already stated they are freaking Assassin Insurgent for revolution targeting a corrupt goverment that was equally powerfull. most of the death is not meant to be beatiful many will die and the result is clear revolution need to be happen and because they are assassin their name most of the time is not recorded as they stated in the end. so it was edge anime with cool battles and gore within the context of their world is make sense.
@@NCore_._ well it hit me cause throughout the entire anime he had that promise to akame that he wouldn't die idk I thought it was impactful just like instead of fighting or assassinating, he died saving people.
(Spoiler)
What annoyed me with AGK was how they treated Mine's character, they got us to really fear for her when she engaged in an epic, episode long fight to the death with a villain who until that point always seemed to survive everything thrown at her. I felt almost nervous for her and genuinely pleased when she managed to defeat her and live to fight another day... then they kill her off in literally the NEXT episode in such an anticlimactic way as a lazy way to shoehorn in a 'tearjerker' moment while he main character grieves for her...
AGK romance is cheesy as shit
I’m not ashamed, I enjoyed Akame ga Kill. It was a fun watch
I've seen so many Akame Ga Kill death scene edit with sad music for the past 2 years that im kinda interested in watching it, but i haven't got time for that, now i have the perfect mindset to go into show.
I'm still gonna defend the early parts of Akame ga kill was banger
my favorite part in elfen leid is when one of the characters is explaining something through projection slides to a man who just had his eyes poked out.
Akame ga kill was the very first anime that I’ve watched, and I really had nothing to compare it to so I don’t remember it being bad. It’s the anime that got me into anime
It was literally the 2nd anime I watched so I was… surprised that a lot of mc live and even in general without facing death (looking at you FT). I loved Naruto’s writing until we get to the resurrection of Madara. But even before they introduced planet level enemies I had a strong gripe on how the creator had written heroines
Bruh I literally went from Fairy Tail to Akame Ga Kill 😭😭
I don't really like when people decry something as "edgy" as if you're too good to enjoy some graphic trash on occasion
0:30 I still remember a bit of Elfen Lied from watching it in high school. I am pretty sure I would not enjoy that shit as an adult. But I remember everyone was talking about it when it came out.
not gonna lie, I still love akame ga kill, I never thought it was deep, although I loved how in the fights anyone could die and it happened, and yes the ending sucked, but to be fair it was an anime original ending, the manga ended way better
Yes, having only seen one piece and fairy tail before AGK I was extremely surprised and impressed that characters would just... Die. And not come back later on. Like it's weird but that was such a foreign concept to me at the time
I'd like to see that corkboard of what shows you'd like based on other shows. You could get suggestions and see the degrees of separation from one show to a completely different one.
Where I had a problem for Fairy Tail is that the creator kept writing himself into a corner just to deus ex machina himself out of it. This was most evident in the GMG arc and got worse after that.
Akame ga Kill's story had potential if the creator had portrayed the story differently instead of being artistically shallow or using thinly excusable Shyamalan-esque twists that derail *ACTUAL* character progression.
Shirou: People die when they are killed.
14 year olds: “that’s deep”
Say what you want but Akame ga kill was cool af, fuck the story but the soundtrack, the visuals the animations it's all amazing.
Connor is right though, it does feel like edgy Fairy Tail
It was great except the ending.
@@Christopher._M It was great with the ending. At least more realistic and better than the manga where it becomes all jolly good ending with Tatsumi living happily with mine and the bad guys getting killed. Rather at least the "Hero" dies and you don't get the ending you always want. Makes it more realistic and interesting.
Out of all languages you could've spoken, you chose to speak facts
well no offense but how was fairy tail edgy. i think it had that power of friendship BS but i cant see how it was edgy
@@animeuniverse5586 he's not saying that Fairy tail is edgy, he's saying that Akame ga kill is like Fairy tail but with edge
Every anime is apparently 16 year old energy, its just because the anime series were popular so people watched it when they were younger or first got into anime. They just making up ballshit it more intense then 99 percent of anime.
I still didn't end the Akame ga Kill manga, but I remember thinking it was the most 200IQ thing in the world. Probably would hate it if I continue reading today.
Somebody else finally mentioned Deadman Wonderland omg my life is complete
I started Fairy Tail the beginning of this year and i recently took a few weeks break from watching it and during that break i watched Akame Ga Kill for the first time so what Connor Said freaked me out cause that's literally what i did :D I'm 22 years old and i did enjoy it.
I enjoyed it too, dont like FT tho.
Yeah, they are definitely exaggerating a bit. I watched Akame Ga Kill when I was 19 and enjoyed it. Not everything has to be super deep.
Peak "I'm 14 and this is deep" anime is HxH
only for 1 arc
@@kunalfadtare2056 If you mean Chimera Ant, then I 100% agree. The rest of HxH is pretty good
I loved Akame ga Kill for having absolutely no plot armour at all. I mean where else would you see that? XD
it played with our emotions quite well when we were 16
Me to other kids when they post quotes with Thomas Shelby's BG after I turn 15 in Oct: *hahaha what now ? Ur 14 and this is deep?*
Elfen Lied had that really great theme song and I think that cast a spell on us.
im 14 and this is deep
I was 14-16 when the Elfen Lied hype was the its peak and even then I thought it was gore shit and never bothered to watch it.
It doesn't mean that I didn't like top tier shit that I hate today. Loveless for example. I loved it at 15, but a year ago I tried to rewatch it and was like "How the hell I loved an anime about 20 years old dating 12 year boy... "
Hahaha
I still like it to the point where I got it on blu ray
Wait, is it Onee-Shota?
I was planning to watch elfen leid until now...
@@jogitofr go watch it. Its pretty good
I remember when I was like 14 years old staying up watching Elfen Lied and saying out loud to myself "Wow, this is profound".
“Your entitled to have your wrong opinion.” Lol Conner getting owned.
you’re*
And now you're getting owned.
@@ls200076 from a grammar Nazi? Who gives a shit.
@@ls200076 hahahahaha
That Fairy Tail and Akame ga Kill analogy is so spot on lmao. I wasn't expecting to be called out like this.
I'll admit I do love Fairy Tail. I didn't grow up on the Big 3 and Fairy Tail was the first proper Shonen I got into (I hated Naruto and can't make it past the first 13 episodes) and something about it clicked with me. It has it fair share of issues with characters not staying dead or some other trope but I still stand that Fairy Tail is way better than Seven Deadly Sins. A friend of mine said I'd love it since it's like Fairy Tail and I've dropped that show maybe 13 times all at roughly the same point and thought it was trash. I'm reading Akame ga Kill and I can see the charm of it; interesting world, nice view of the powers being items, and some other details that could make it great but it does have that edgy feel that only teenagers who find the nihilistic themes to be deep.
TL;DR I'll love Fairy Tail despite the issues it has and is a fun time with some great music
I mean ya you might not like Naruto but what made you hate it if I may ask??
If u love fairy tail then watch one piece. One piece is the much better version of fairy tail.
same but i enjoyed seven deadly sins but i dropped it after getting quite 100 chapter in but till that pt i enjoyed it too. i really enjoyed FT just its last fight annoyed me.
@@NCore_._ For me it was the characters. I couldn't stand anyone save for Kakashi. Naruto and Sasuke were just aggravating to watch and couldn't like them, even after reading on what they developed into I still couldn't like them. Naruto was just obnoxious and his voice was like nails on a chalkboard and Sasuke was trying so hard to be edgy for my taste, like a teenager trying to impress older people that he's mature. I could go on but the short of it was the characters that made me not even bother with it.
@@viggofuentes7856 One Piece is on my list. I've watched maybe 20 or so episodes and liked what I saw but I'm the kind of person who binges shows in one sitting so One Piece would just consume me. One day I'll watch it/read it all
0:45 yeah, its still happen even on adults
Same with literature, kind of,
When I was 15 and my friend was like “You have to check out his book, like 4 characters die,” for one of those YA Hunger Games rip-offs, when the super edgy dystopian fantasy was very popular, and I was like why is that your selling point? Why would I want to read a book where people die randomly for no reason? But it was super popular for some reason
4:15 oh man, I recognize that purple plushie and now that’s the only thing I can pay attention to in this video
There are definitely still some of us out there who think Elfen Lied is a modern classic :)
I'm with those and ive rewatched it least 4 times. Different anime diffrent. Taste I suposse . I'm even a big fan of akira its one of those that got me in the animie gate basiclly.
I honestly don't see how there could be any overlap between the Fairy Tail and Akame Ga Kill fandom beyond surface level details.
Even today as I'm 20, I have a soft spot for AGK. It certainly ain't that good (Both Manga and especially the Anime) but I can't bring myself to hate on it entirely.
Everyone needs to watch Hazel's video called "Why Did We Like Elfen Lied?" It is probably the best video anyone has ever made about Elfen Lied, and it is one of the best anime video essays of the last few years. Super Eyepatch Wolf has also highly recommended it.
Akame ga Kill gets over hated. There, I said it. Like it's not amazing by any stretch, but I like a few of the characters enough to draw me in. I do think the Manga draws things put a bit, and it's a little insane that they had to introduce more characters because the main teams were getting killed off too quickly.
I also really respected that aside from 3 characters (the 3 most important ones anyways) plot armor wasn't a thing and they didn't try and justify their killings, instead owning up to it.
And uh, if you think this AgK is edgy, go read the Bakumatsu arc of Kenshin. Or really anything from the 90s.
I love Akame but that’s mostly for the manga, since that’s a completely separate ending on its own. I find that I enjoy the irredeemability most of their antagonists, as well as the protagonists in the case of Kurome. As for the deaths, yeah I’m 19 but I still find them deep.
For years I had a friend who will always say that ‘Fairy Tail is the best series ever.’ And I will kinda respond with “Oh, you mean the wannabe One Piece?” Or the ‘bootleg/knockoff One Piece’
I told him compared to One Piece, fairy tail is mediocre asf, and it’s fine if you think it’s great but you’re a frog in a well, if you think it’s the ‘greatest’. For months it was like this, but one day he started talking about one piece and how great it was. So I asked him if he was into OP now and if it’s better than FT. And he answered with, “Yes, it’s better.” He’s a huge OP fan now and I haven’t seen him talk about FT since then but I’m pretty sure he still likes it, it’s just not his number one anymore.
“Frog in the well... Learn how big the word is.”
"Not enough to reach the apex"
I remember being 11 when I first watched Akame Ga Kill and now I’m 14. The harem didn’t click with me, (basically I didn’t know there was a harem and I just assumed that him and Mine were just having an invisible arc ig? Was kinda stupid.) Lubbock was honestly my fav, I liked his death more in the manga though. Esdeath was always super compelling and I thought that Tatsumi was more than a bland anime harem protag, which he kinda is. He does have significant growth through the show and I do think that it works.
I do think some of the character designs look very fanservice-y, (lookin at you, Leone.) and there is a lot of juvenile humor that doesn’t really come across as “funny” anymore, like the overdone “you walked in on me changing, you PERVERT!” Trope that… oh GOD can we let that go please?! But yeah, besides them Killing Mine and Tatsumi I think if they really wanted to change up the ending a little bit they could’ve done it differently. Also Akame is the main character for only one episode and it’s disappointing. It used to be my favorite anime of all time, but I’d consider it still in my top 5.
So I’ll give it a good ol 8.5/10, and the 2nd OP and ED are Iconic.
Fairy tail with balls the kill off characters is a pretty accurate description of akame ga kill. Though they are both pretty bad shows. One of my many issues with fairy tail is that it never had the guts to kill off anybody at least not in the 100+ episodes I watched, while it was all too willing to play along the line and come up with some bs friendship reason for the characters to survive everytime therefore eliminating any stakes and tension. Akame ga kill somehow has the opposite issue were it tries to use killing off almost everybody as a substitute for any substance. They also tried to trick you into caring about the characters by showing some tragic flashback just before they died. But not only that make it painfully obvious when someone was about to die but it also somehow made me care even less about the characters. I might have enjoyed it if I found it at a younger age but at 18/19 it was pretty painful to watch.
yeah, ft had some fcking bad ass and unique moments and plotpoints, espeically about killing and reviving a character, but the longer it went the more absurd it got
Fairy tail isn't about deaths or being edgy.
It's literally about the bonds that the guilds help create between strangers who come from different places with different experiences. I personally thought it was beautiful how the Fairy tail guild was portrayed. It went beyond being a guild. It became a home and a family for all kind of people with all kind of pasts.
What you cans say is that it is cheesy
No the not the plot, themes, the concept, the vibe of Fairy tail and Akame Ga Kill aren't remotely alike. Fairy tail is about wizard gild who goes on quests, Similar RPG. The show feature dozens of wizards, over 40 wizzards alone in Fairytale the show quite goofy. Besides the dramatic parts. The feel of fairytale is like if mix comedy of looney toons with X-men and made it an anime. Akame ga kill is about guy who family got killed by the rich and he join a group of people trying over throw the corrupt rich, The show is very dark. The show aren't remotely alike in any form.
Also fairytale does kill off characters most of The magic council dies, ultear sacrifice her life, Zera
dies....just few examples. Hell even first 100 eps Grey master Ur dies, Lucy father dies and Simon the brother of Kagura and Erza friend dies. So that isn't correct either.
Joey admitted he didn't get past ep 60 of fairytale which means he know very little of the show, Fairytale is probably in my top 10 favorite Anime, and I literally hate Akame Ga Kill. The boi's here are literally just using fairy tail as meme for something they don't like, and just randomly comparing to it Akame ga kill in which they actually have nothing in common, but people are so dumb they talking it literal.
@@draetone5602 exactly! It's an absurd comparison. They probably did it for laughs but it's so absurd that i did not laugh.
Lmao!! Dude I hate fairytail for that reason. 'The power of friendship' can only be used so many times. It completely ruins any power scaling it tried to establish. Exactly why I cant watch Dragan ball super. The power scaling is just obliterated and can never be salvaged. Not even by giving Vegeta his own things. Dragon ball z was great as a kid but these things are just too big for me to overlook now. Akame ga kill was the first anime I watched that didnt mind killing everyone so I enjoyed it.
Connor literally described me back then. I went from Fairy Tail to Akame ga Kill.
I watched elfen lied when I was like 12 and now that I'm 20 I'm still in love with it and still Consider it my favorite anime like I even have a tattoo of Lucy's mask
I feel you there lol they crap on akira aswell and that was like my start into the animie world. I want to say maybe its the younger peeps for the most part that hate it. "Most"
@@treedreamerwhisper3983 i've never seen anyone dissing akira. probably depends on what communities you frequent.
I like Akame Ga Kill and Future Diary.
For fans of these series do you have any other recommendations?
For critics of these series are there any anime that are dark and thrilling but you think are better?
Berserk is SUPER dark and it’s not edgy
@@cumbong238 I enjoyed Berserk. Thanks for the recommendation :)
@@TitoJamesWriter Try GANTZ
It's weird, not edgy
@@LL-oq5sf Cool I'll check it out
Thanks for the recs gang I did enjoy Berserk and I'll check out GANTZ.
Are there any Future Diary and Akame fans who have recs for anime with similar vibes?
I can tolerate plot holes if the ride is fun.
Man, as someone that never grew up with stuff like Akame Ga Kill, Elfen Lied and other similar shows, it feels weird reading this entire comment section 😅
Not to say I wasn't into some edgy shit when I was 16-17, but I almost kinda wish I discovered these shows while going through my own "mom it's not a phase" period.
I did give Akame a try some time ago, but dropped it around the halfway point. It just didn't hook me up and with how killer happy it was, it just made me disinterested in how things were going to continue. I guess you really need that teen nostalgia to appreciate stuff like it. Esdeath still bae, though.
I've met too many people who love Fairy Tail but don't watch/read HxH or One Piece because "it looks boring" or "the artstyle is ugly" Like how can these posers pretend that Fairy Tail is deep(it's not) but then have such shallow preconceptions about objectively better series?? It blows my mind that some people are so braindead.
I've never felt so called out in my life.
Ofc slayer enryu ofc you did
I love when they talk about different generations of anime fandoms. it's really interesting as someone who wasn't into anime until, but accidentally stumbled over anime discourse a lot. I think I couldn't get into anime when I was first really interested in doing so because the discourse was dominated by stuff 14 year old boys thought was cool. and I was a pretentious kid who saw Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex, Paranoia Agent, and Baccano and went "ah why can't more anime be ~elevated~ like this?"
fairly certain I would've bounced hard off Elfen Lied, Mirai Nikki, or Akame ga Kill.
I saw Mirai Nikki at the age of like 20/21, my first ever anime as an adult (aka no pokemon/digimon/sailormoon being accounted for as a kid), and imo I thought it was great and a great gateway into anime, because it has it all. The gore, the fun, the romance, the 'deres, the plot, the schemes. Like every anime since had has some of it. Idk, I'm satisfied with it. It's a great anime.
9 think black lagoon is a better example
The worst thing is that Akame ga Kill is still popular and getting recommended and people are saying it’s sad and shit, stop recommending Akame ga Kill.
People recommending AGK are based. keep crying
Elfen Lied was my first "real" anime. My second was Higurashi and my third was Mirai Nikki. I was an edgy little shit and would seek the goriest stuff and scoff at romance as it was "for girls" (even though I am one). Fast forward 10 years, tried to rewatch Elfen Lied but couldn't stand the cringe, my favorite anime is Clannad and seeing my ships interact makes me squeal like an idiot
While I love fairy tail and I enjoyed Akame ga Kill the first time I saw it, I began to like it a lot less when I realized how many deviations the anime had to make from the manga because they caught up to the source material too quickly. But I think it also kinda had a sort of "game of thrones" element to it where after a certain episode you realized that just about none of the characters were safe from getting killed off and that made it kinda exciting even if it wasn't a very thought provoking show.
I mean I dislike the fact that just if an anime is different than the manga that it has to be shit. The ending was realistic than the manga as you said no one was safe. Not even the hero. As being a hero or good doesn't guarantee you a good ending in real life either.
@@NCore_._ they are not a hero what people missed is infact from the start they introduced themself as a grup of assasin in an attempt for a revolution against a goverment that was equally powerfull and any frontal attack will come at a great loss. the ending within that context is realistic. but many was in hopium for akame ga kill to be a hero story just like many other predecessor that presented the villain stated as powerfull but dumb enough to losing in frontal attack just because the hero was present.
@@NCore_._ m8 fighting in popular insurgency guarantee u get good ending even if u dead. ask taliban. omar is dead but his movement succeeds
I admit, I liked a lot of Seinen when I was younger that I look back on and was like "This is all just blood and nudity" which I can almost appreciate now in a macabre kind of way but no way do I find most of them to be as interesting as when I was that age.
2:25 "you are entitled to your wrong opinion" :-)
Meanwhile Re:Zero fans :
"I am 9 and this is deep"
Akame ga kill: everyone dies
Fairy tails: characters come back even after dying
I do not dare to re watch mirai nikki, itll forever be a masterpiece in my mind.
Same as I consider that the first legit anime I ever watched
never have i ever smiled being called out so many times .
Though I recognize akame ga kill many flaws , i still have a soft spot for it since it was my first .
The fights and the OST for Akame were great
Akame ga kill left a deep scar in me, I never watch it a second time I was that sad n scared.
My biggest issue with Akame Ga Kill is that you could predict how it was gonna end by episode 4, it's why I call 86 the new Akame Ga Kill... It follows a set formula that becomes extremely obvious and that removes all tension.
Me who still loves Mirai Nikki and Akame ga Kill after 7 years:.... I love you guys, but they ain't that bad, come on. Treating it a lil too harshly.
Tbf tho future diary was like my first legit anime I actually watched
Some people like to act snobby and throw around words like "edgy" and "juvenile"
This is so accurate... i went from fairy tail to akame ga kill... And i was 17 🙃