@@EmilKlingbergbut its still 50% of the reason its so good since it doubles your dmg on the normal(which can even lead to kills which might make this more than 50%)
@@sighyawn6378 I don't disagree but it's basically giant hunt, it's super easy to dodge. I think flame spear offers more to make up for the weapons short comings
I don't see how Flame Spear is any better than Skewer. The projectile damage is straight up awful. And aside from that, what else can it offer that Skewer doesnt?
I think the reason for it being a two hit r1 combo is an oversight from Fromsoft where they added the stun rate of a normal colossal and added to this weapon with the unique move set.
@@Blittsplitt5 not true. GUGS can 2 hit true combo as well U can R1 R1 combo or RR1 R1 combo with free aiming. However since it takes effort to do, fire ugs combo is better
Of course Flame Spear adds more damage to the weapon than Flaming Strike (which they just nerfed). And you can stack the armour that adds damage to Fire Knight skills... Great balancing!
The godslayer greatsword has the same moveset there, but doesnt true combo its because it has a level 3 stun on its normal enabling the combo it should be level 2
I find the new lord version weapon of the final boss quite good the only real way to deal with it is trading or from range in melee its realy evil, doing good dmg, hyper armor is quite high, hard to dodge/fully doing so and the last attack of the combo lifts also you can spam it since it costs like no fp and not that much stamina
Wouldn't fire infusion be better since it has innate fire damage and would be buffed by flame spear? Also,FGMS plus crouchpoke tali plus twohanded tali plus r1 to r1 is so insane on this weapon.
It’s like standard greatsword speed (claymore) but has colossal weapon benefits. And 2 R1s that combo like DS3 style. I’m convinced From doesn’t balance their game with PvP in mind like at all
Fire damage isn’t that good only because vigor raises fire defense. If you have enough fire damage to compete with the other elements, then it’s just as good.
@@Debodeebs yeah but I’ve done it on the new one, frame data should be the same except for the stun on neutral r1 Edit: I’ve brought the godslayer’s gs to tournaments, I hope I know what I’m talking about on this moveset by now.
played around with it yesterday too, its an amazing weapon - used flame speer too :D now i started using Rakshasa's Great Katana - on a dex build it get some realy good AR and with speer talisman this thing is an absolut beast too - ashe of war is suprisingly effective against meshing gankers too :D
fire infusion sucks at meta, even if you have 100+ AR more compared to heavy you lose dmg on counter hit with cr1 and most people that have vigor will have fire defense than other elements along with armors having high fire defense by default and on top of all fire gets debuffed hard if you fight in water and in rain.
@@OG1Donut I tested it, with the fire buff of the aow through defences u do more damage. Same with flaming strike. U just lose rot grease, but the weapon already comes in with fire damage, better to maximize it
dupping items is cheating. Play the game the way its meant to be played, if an item is limited your not supposed to have an infinite amount. Farm it in NG+ or dont use it. Talking about starlight shards
cringe take. just make consumables used in multiplayer replenish automatically. besides the multiplayer is too busted for invaders to not use everything at their disposal. including infinite starlight shards.
what if he save scummed instead? not cheating at that point right but he'll still always have 10 in any given invasion. unless you think it's normal to go through NG+ and complete Ranni questline for 10 shards, for every invasion?
Should make them farmable then, playing as a cooperator I only start with 2 blue flasks These new catacombs are just massive and I'll be draining a lot of FP for sure I see nothing wrong with duplicating these items since they're so limited
All these OP DLC weapons, and they choose Rivers of Bobera. Never change PvErs.
"RageGaming told me this weapon is OP 2 years ago, so it's good."
Pve, pve never changes
It’s funny to me how the entire foundation of the weapon being good is “what if you just got to hit again?”
So fcking sad
Well no it has good damage, range, thrusting heavy to scoop. The dual hit is real just the cream ontop
@@EmilKlingbergbut its still 50% of the reason its so good since it doubles your dmg on the normal(which can even lead to kills which might make this more than 50%)
@Zopeee Oncs the true combo is gone, it'll go from easily the best colossal sword to one of the best
Without the true combo the weapon is still good, but with the true combo it is outright dominant
Triple rivers of blood thats so precious it reminds me of better days. Im glad someone else is using flame spear, every keeps using flame skewer
Flame spear and flame skewer are both for faith builds right?
Its kinda funny
its cause flame skewer is way stronger. r1 r1 skewer > follow up is gonna kill literally any build. flame spear just doesnt have the pseudo combo.
@@sighyawn6378 I don't disagree but it's basically giant hunt, it's super easy to dodge. I think flame spear offers more to make up for the weapons short comings
I don't see how Flame Spear is any better than Skewer. The projectile damage is straight up awful. And aside from that, what else can it offer that Skewer doesnt?
good ol' ds3 r1+r1 true combo
Why do some weapons have true combos, but most don't? What were they thinking with this balancing?
@@Blittsplitt5 unintended on this weapon
@@shinren_ you think they'll fix it in the next patch?
@@Berwin1441 doubt it lmaooo fromsoftware is genuinely incompetend i noticed. Im surprised dark souls 3 pvp was as good as it was tbh
@@shinren_ i guess we'll stay one-shotting anyone below 60 vig
It's like Zwei and has R1 combo, its literaly Bass Cannon
Nanaya's Torch is just crazy. Almost instant proc of madness from its AoW that you can follow up with 2 r1 of weapon in your other hand.
Still crazy how stupid hosts are when they get separated. Once that flaming strike dude died the party lasted like 1 minute.
If the Zweihander and the Godslayer Greatsword had a child
More like a shared ancestor 😂
I mean, imagine zwheihander and the godslayer greatsword were siblings lmao
@@ocel6037 Sweet Home Alabama
XD
I think the reason for it being a two hit r1 combo is an oversight from Fromsoft where they added the stun rate of a normal colossal and added to this weapon with the unique move set.
Of course it's an oversight, they suck. No colossal weapon should have a true combo in this game with ridiculously high damage
@@Blittsplitt5 They probably prioritize PvE before PvP.
@@Blittsplitt5 not true. GUGS can 2 hit true combo as well U can R1 R1 combo or RR1 R1 combo with free aiming. However since it takes effort to do, fire ugs combo is better
@@Omega_2651also that warcry r2 r1
Of course Flame Spear adds more damage to the weapon than Flaming Strike (which they just nerfed). And you can stack the armour that adds damage to Fire Knight skills... Great balancing!
Rivra bobra is so nostalgic😢
Something tells me it wasn't intended to combo r1
The godslayer greatsword has the same moveset there, but doesnt true combo its because it has a level 3 stun on its normal enabling the combo it should be level 2
i couldnt see who the co invader steel was excited about was, but judging by the fashion, i wanna say it was uncle gael
I find the new lord version weapon of the final boss quite good the only real way to deal with it is trading or from range in melee its realy evil, doing good dmg, hyper armor is quite high, hard to dodge/fully doing so and the last attack of the combo lifts also you can spam it since it costs like no fp and not that much stamina
What’s your build?
What are your stats and tallys like bro
This only showed how OP it really isn't. A lot of other stuff had to be used to win, too.
What level do you invade at now? Still 139 or have you moved to 150?
What's the soul level range for PVP nowadays?
There is a talisman that you can get it slowly restores your fp
God Slayer greatsword and Zweihandler had a baby. And it's on fire lol.
Definitely hoping they revert the meteoric ore greatsword to the previous 16 int
Omg Im starting the dlc and can't wait to have this weapon (after that I will create a character with everything)
crouch poke on this thing true combos into the r1 as well, if you didnt know
No it doesn’t
Everything combos into the r1. It’s crazy.
@@Debodeebs I havent specifically tested it with another person but so far in all my fights it has combo'd
Day 1 of me asking Steelovsky to try out Sword Lance
I use this and Messmers Spear at the moment, straight Fire Serpent God build haha
Wouldn't fire infusion be better since it has innate fire damage and would be buffed by flame spear?
Also,FGMS plus crouchpoke tali plus twohanded tali plus r1 to r1 is so insane on this weapon.
Seamless coop added invasions im so happy
Also the flame spear ived noticed that if the roll in a straight line away from you the projectile seems to roll catch pretty well
It’s like standard greatsword speed (claymore) but has colossal weapon benefits. And 2 R1s that combo like DS3 style. I’m convinced From doesn’t balance their game with PvP in mind like at all
Why should they? It's a PVE game. PVP is small percentage, full of crying babies.
you can also unlock true combo from crouch poke
nvm saw the attempt at 16:30
which infusion is better, heavy or fire?
I would say heavy because when you two hand a weapon your strength goes up and fire damage isn’t that good
Fire damage isn’t that good only because vigor raises fire defense. If you have enough fire damage to compete with the other elements, then it’s just as good.
Do the Carian Thrusting Shield, absolutely sick weapon
This weapon is so broken that you can kill swift slash spammers with relative ease
But…you can do the crouch r1 combo?
Yeah but why would you when you can mash r1
You can’t
@@Debodeebs but why can’t you? The crouch r1 to r1 combo has always been dependent on distance, might be why this misconception occurs
@@professional_sufferer you can do it on godslayer but apparently not on the new one. Talk to Miyazaki in all his infinite wisdom
@@Debodeebs yeah but I’ve done it on the new one, frame data should be the same except for the stun on neutral r1
Edit: I’ve brought the godslayer’s gs to tournaments, I hope I know what I’m talking about on this moveset by now.
played around with it yesterday too, its an amazing weapon - used flame speer too :D
now i started using Rakshasa's Great Katana - on a dex build it get some realy good AR and with speer talisman this thing is an absolut beast too - ashe of war is suprisingly effective against meshing gankers too :D
Giant dad stagger back!
You know the stun is a bug right?
Classic ending 😂
Bleed infuse with gravity drill lmao
if you can beat Gaius (casul)
Imagine they nerf this not swift slash 😂
Yeah but can it beat Swift Slash?
Fromsoft needs to nerf this weapon + backhand blade/ blind spot/ swift slash and the PvP would improve
Shut the hell up and let people enjoy things
Why dont u fire infuse it, it does more damage
Build stats
fire infusion sucks at meta, even if you have 100+ AR more compared to heavy you lose dmg on counter hit with cr1 and most people that have vigor will have fire defense than other elements along with armors having high fire defense by default and on top of all fire gets debuffed hard if you fight in water and in rain.
@@OG1Donut I tested it, with the fire buff of the aow through defences u do more damage. Same with flaming strike. U just lose rot grease, but the weapon already comes in with fire damage, better to maximize it
RoB is short for RoBeRtO
Fast colossal 🤤
The L2 community is wild😅
I think fkgs kinda dumb af w the easy combo + damage
Duped item cheese
poke spammer
Better than watching two players poke eachother with dual spears
Stun locking a player until death is not skill
Playing the game well is not skill? Hmm, yup, checks out.
Yes and people doing it with moonveil or spamming L2 isn’t either.
Landing the hits that stun them does though. Shut up.
found the redditor
Which is exactly why we dont like gankers
dupping items is cheating. Play the game the way its meant to be played, if an item is limited your not supposed to have an infinite amount. Farm it in NG+ or dont use it. Talking about starlight shards
Or just male them buyable/craftable idk why they didn't
Arena replenishes consumable items after your match now anyway, so it doesn't really matter. This sounds like a cope.
cringe take. just make consumables used in multiplayer replenish automatically. besides the multiplayer is too busted for invaders to not use everything at their disposal. including infinite starlight shards.
what if he save scummed instead? not cheating at that point right but he'll still always have 10 in any given invasion. unless you think it's normal to go through NG+ and complete Ranni questline for 10 shards, for every invasion?
Should make them farmable then, playing as a cooperator I only start with 2 blue flasks
These new catacombs are just massive and I'll be draining a lot of FP for sure
I see nothing wrong with duplicating these items since they're so limited
I had no idea hippos could grab 2 people at once that's wild 🦛