Can you WIN in ONE TURN with The Necrobloom?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- What does it take to win in EDH with The Necrobloom? How can we get every land in our decks into play, or how can we mill our entire libraries? The answers are easier than you think...
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Kodama of the east tree + any bounceland = infinite landfall triggers
Bounceland = sex
Explain the loop if you will, i am confusion
@@kelp-ist3469 Kodama and Necrobloom on the field: play a bounceland -> target the bounceland with its own ability returning it to hand -> necrobloom makes a token -> kodama triggers from the token and lets you replay the bounceland -> Repeat
I mean... This is possible in Mono Green too technically.
@@kelp-ist3469 kodama says: "when a permanent ETBs, if it didn't enter for this effect, put a permanent with equal or lesser mana value on the battlefield from your hand".
Bounceland says "when it ETBs, put a land you control back into your hand".
With kodama on the field, when you play any bounceland you get 2 triggers on the stack: you choose to put on the stack the kodama trigger 1st and the bounceland 2nd (so bounceland resolves 1st): you put in hand the bounceland itself, and the n you put it back on the field when kodama's trigger resolves
Rinse and repeat for infinite ETB/landfall triggers
I just appreciate how Necrobloom and Six are built to work together. It's some Survival+Recurring Nightmare kinda shit. They're even in the same set, much like their predecessors.
Gaea's Blessing -
Target player shuffles up to three target cards from their graveyard into their library.
Draw a card.
When Gaea’s Blessing is put into your graveyard from your library, shuffle your graveyard into your library.
Save your money and know your combos. Im sure Titan works but why not play both XD
This is my most played card in Magic. Any deck I build has one in it, even if there's no chance of mill happened, worst case scenario I get back my 3 best cards and it replaces itself in hand. I have probably 20 copies of Gaea's Blessing and it's become a meme at my LGS how ride or die I am for the card.
That's true but if gaea's blessing is in your hand you can't reshuffle your gy for free.
If you have a discard outlet (like putrid imp) and any of the og eldrazi titans in hand you can pitch it and reshuffle
Necrobloom has quickly become my main Commander I run, I mass out their tokens with doublers and triplers. It already has such a high win % but never thought of any of the combos mentioned in the video. Thanks for your information!
Ah the bloomin' onion
This may be a commander vid, but... now I have the means/info to build something kinda whack in modern, lol
All I can say is thank the lord this things first ability is a landfall ability, and not descend. It is broken, but not as bad as it could be
I had a feeling you were going to combo with this Commander. I played this the other night with my group. I have some light combos and I became Target number one. Lol. It's a really fun Commander where you can take it to multiple places. Highly recommend!!!!
hell ya, drop your list!
@@CommanderMechanicDon't have my full deck list yet but for me I actually focused on knight recursion! I also use lands like Thespian sage, Vensuva, and echoing depths to copy dark depths and other fun lands!!! So many ways to build this!!! I'll try to post the decklist later tonight!!!
Dude I made the self-mill version and it has been such a blast to play. Thank you for the video!!
Hell ya glad you’re enjoying it!
3:00 you can also use tireless provisioner and tiller engine for the mana maker and land untapper.
this is my first deck build so far of necro only about a half week into playing/building it
How is it treating you so far?
@CommanderMechanic its played amazing so far I think the only thing it needs is a couple game closers to help finish games out
Absolutely love seeing you do a Necrobloom video - one of the best Legendary designs they’ve made in a while! 🎉
Jaheira is another way to have tokens generate mana. I also definitely want to go more the creature approach and make a unique zombie deck with the necrobloom
Putting all my lands in play is the plan with Mazes End as wincon
Squanded Resources is another fun card for this build, especially with Aftermath Analyst and Journey to Eternity. Along with a bounce land, they can loop with infinite landfall triggers + mana. Best not to do this with Gitrog on the field though lol
Alternatively, with the Barren Moor combo, Bone Miser gives you 2 black mana for each land you discard, with every cycle netting you one black mana after paying the cycle cost each time.
I usually follow this up with a Debt to the Deathless in excess of X = 20 to kill the table 😊
Fav commander is Ashaya ... please ... ad quiron ranger and Voilà ! infinity landfall triggers quand you can do multiple shit with wherever you want ... dammit so ez
I’m going to try putting both these strategies together in one deck.. might be too ambitious but I like the idea of multiple paths and wincons.
Try to cherry pick the best pieces of both these and see what happens. With all the tutors I should be able to reliably get something going each game.
At this rate I will have a land deck for every colour combination!!
Bro this weekend was my 4th time playing with this commander and i play in a group of 6 to 7 people. Ive won 3 out of the 4 times and came in second place on the game i lost. I dont even have all the cards to upgrade this deck but i do have quite a few and let me tell ya, this deck is hella fun and im pissing people off too lol. My friends play some pretty nasty decks. It aint friendship the gathering..its MTG lol
Ok I can't recall the name but outside of zur orb there is an enchantment that sacs lands for mana in golgari. That plus a way to draw for you creatures entering play plus kodama of the east treet mills your whole deck. If you any way to net mana doing that or you simply have a way to return a pinger at the end of this like with dread return you win.
Is it an easy combo to pull off? No. It requires many pieces. However if you plan for a battle cruiser finisher that is not simply yeah I have enough mana to torment everyone to death and you want to do weird lines using unique effects this is the commander.
Also you can set up draw for each landfall with really weird ways like titania (the original one that creates 5/3) and something like garruks uprising. Or garruks uprising and elesh Norn. Or having Cathars crusade on board with that new elf from modern horizon 3, evolution witness that returns a permanent to your hand when it gets a +1/+1 on it.
And those are from the top of my head. There are so many unique weird combos to be had. It feels like brewing for tayam or ghave honestly. Yeah like ghave there is an obvious go wide strat with tokens or there is a degenerate layered combo deck with unique rules interactions and proper stack orderung. Compared to Thalia and the gitrog this deck can be so unique. My Thalia and the gitrog deck feels like 99 pile that works well on its own that happens to have a commander. This deck can be bonkers good
is it the reserve list card?
@@rG1vZ yeah i found it it is squandered resources
I was trying to remember the name Life and Limb the entire video. You'd need another piece, though. I forgot Life and Limb is only Forests and Saprolings. Conspiracy and Maskwood Nexus would do it.
Great video! I didn’t even piece these combos together until watching
That’s what I’m here for!!
I'd add Glacial Chasm as well to protect myself from all damage sources and just drain the table with mirkwood bats or syr konrad pings
I like Cultivator Colossus as its both a self-mill and landfall enabler. Card is stupid if you can get the ETB while Necrobloom is on the board.
gross lol
I recently played it with gitrog milled myself on upkeep played eerie ultimatum and closed out the game having everything on my board.
Eerie ultimatum would go crazy in this deck
Funny story this is what i do with korvold just i have red instead of white
Thanks for putting 2 lists together! I personally was so stuck on which route to go. So I think I’ll do one of each!!!
Bone Miser + barren moor are also another way to mill your deck out and generate mana while doing it. Throw in dread return, a torment of hailfire, and an eternal witness to capitalize on the mana.
you'd love this week's short!
Best combo commander from MH3? Nadu-- I mean, nah, dude. 😏
Since it's a
Bone miser for infinite black mana with barren moor, or just as another fluctuator
that's a great alternative!
Am i the only one that is concerned by the "jumping of bodu count"😂
Nice list
I can’t believe you use tape on your cards
Nissa and springheart nantuko is infinite land drops
Awesome video. I opened this up the other day, and I'm excited to play it. Thanks
Anyone know of a discord for the necro bloom?
Oh this is neat, glad I clicked on this video
So a commander deck that is, realistically, 90 lands, Scute Swarm, Perilous Forays, Spelunking and Lotus Cobra, plus maybe something, a few somethings, for burn, cascade, and tutoring.
Requires a bit of setup but gravecrawler+ashaya+necrobloom+sac outlet
Depending on your sac outlet you’ll need to hit the 7 land threshold.
Squandered resources=infinite landfall/zombie tokens
Phyrexian altar=infinite landfall/zombies/mana
Warren soultrader bypasses the 7 land threshold at the cost of life. It can either generate insane value or go infinite if you can offset the life loss.
Stone-Seeder Hierophant is another copy of the Lotus Cobra effect that can be better with some utility lands that have tap abilities that ETB tapped. And I think more Landfall decks should be playing Storm Cauldron, this one included. For extra spice add in Burgeoning and Manabond with Storm Cauldron
the landfall combo deck seems a bit.... fragile. Expecting to do it on someone else's turn seems convoluted. Plus, no one is stupid, leaving an uncracked fetch with perilous and lotus cobra on field is BEGGING for removal. Need ways to give these tokens haste or make them indestructible to do it on your turn to finish out the game. Combos are at a PL 8 but this deck needs one removal spell or a boardwipe to fold immediately, so its more like a pl 6 bc of this.... Don't expect to be winning a lot with this build.
wow so you've played the deck a bunch already? thanks for your qualitative feedback through thorough testing!
About 10 or so games deep with it at the moment. I’m not trying to be rude, im just pointing out how I’ve experienced it. It could also be my pod. But my pieces are removed too quickly and it just kind of durdles until I’m taken out. I did have a game where I got the combo online with perilous and dropped all my lands, but lack of haste had me sit there with 20 creatures and then the board wipe came. I did come extremely close in that game.The interaction suite of the deck is nice however, making sure I can control a board state but haven’t been able to eek one out yet
SPICY PUMPKIN!! 😈😈😈
Gain blessing also works are library return. As if it hits the yard from library it puts the entire grveyard back into library
i cant figure out why this has white. nothing white about this potted plant at all
Probably because it makes tokens which is typically a white/green ability
@@exoteche6706 so does monogreen saprolings :/
@@Doxicyclin idk man, not complaining though, glad to see another Abzan landfall legend
I’m so tempted to build this!
yesss do it!
i love token and landfall decks haha i might have to pick this card up.
Can you do a brawl version of this list for us arena goobers?
Worldspine wurm would be wonderful in either deck
Perilous forays is a little weak as it only takes on basic lands, need rootpath purifier or something similar on board to make it all lands.
it does not take only basic lands. it gets lands with a basic land type!
@@CommanderMechanic uh sorry wdym? Not understanding this reply.
@@CommanderMechanicoh so surveil lands, triomes, and shock lands are legit targets??!! Woah thanks!
Or you could just use sporemond+life and limb with the retreat and just infinite combo the table...
ya you could totally do (something that's not at all what this video is about)
First, you don’t need a shuffle titan to not lose the game. The dredge protects you from drawing out as it replaces the draw.
Second: shifting woodland, aftermath analyst, and squandered resources.
you should check your rules; you cannot dredge if you don't have sufficient cards in your library!
702.52a Dredge is a static ability that functions only while the card with dredge is in a player’s graveyard. “Dredge N” means “As long as you have at least N cards in your library, if you would draw a card, you may instead mill N cards and return this card from your graveyard to your hand.”
dont forget eerie ultimatum
Moonshaker Cavalry...
I feel like this commander is too unique to just build into a combo/solitaire shell.
How do you mean?
Perilous Forays only works and fetches BASIC land from your library. You need something like Rootpath Purifier to pull out this combo.
No, it does not. It says Basic Land Type. Please read!!
that being said, you still cant fetch all your lands into play
Awaken the Woods might be a fun card in this.
It was the 101st card in the landfall version :_:
The necrobloom is great but it's not the BEST from mh3
What legend IS, in your opinion?
@@CommanderMechanic everybody seems to be brewing and talking about Nadu, I've already seen it win games? 🤷♀
Strongest commander in MH3 is not entirely true, Nadu is seeing a ton more play than Necrobloom. Otherwise fun deck for Casual probably, may consider messing with it myself as I am a Black/White player at heart but love adding a third color to that pair to add more interesting things to my decks.
If the Eldrazi titans are out of the budget range, you can get mill protection and lethal out of the dreadhound/syr konrad combo by putting in two of the incarnations
They only shuffle themselves in but the dredge effect will allow you to mill them infinitely so long as you can keep lands in your graveyard via cycle or discard
great recommendation!
I’m running purity and dread rn
Gaea's Blessing ..... is missing in the list is real cheap and doing the same thing as the Titans
so, where's the turn 1 wincon again?
who said anything about turn one?
@@CommanderMechanic the thumbnail said winning in one turn, and I interprettes that as a turn 1 win
Is it cedh viable or could be? In your opinion
No blue makes it tough to compete in todays meta
@CommanderMechanic if we can find a way to go mana positive, we could approach the season sun as a wincon as we cycle through our deck
"all land in play" your lands have to have basic types. aint no way youre not running fetches or other multicolored lands without types in a 3 color landfall deck. this isnt infinite because it has an end point, depending on number fetchable lands
You should check out the deck list. Every land has a basic land type
@@CommanderMechanic 40 lands 🤢🤢. dont even use all the fetchable duels excluding ogs. this aint it
@@Beyfire99how would you build it?
This is a landfall deck, meaning we’re getting more value out of our lands than just playing it for mana as mentioned in the first half of the video.
Furthermore, the landfall deck has a side strategy for being able to animate lands into creatures, so all those lands are just more creatures.