To be fair to Fntastic, they wanted to come out the gate by releasing a triple A game, and they suceeded in doing just that in 2024. A broken, bland, barely funtional, bare bones piece of shit. Ubisoft et al would have been proud.
*shrug* Why making a finished or working product if they can make money that way too? this scheme is working since 2010 and the sheep fall for it every single time
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Yeah, making players pay full price to be beta testers, and then people who wait till the games are 10-20 bucks and is fixed and polished as it should have been at launch all win. I paid 5 dollars brand new(I think I even got a steel case)for Cyberpunk 2077 after its terrible launch. Then they fixed it and the price went back up, lol.
@@EarthboundX Cyberpunk is the absoloute best example for people not wanting to listen to anything. Everyone that actually knows CDPR knew that it'll be buggy as hell on launch (like all their launches), but all the people who bought Witcher 3 after most fixes and the movement update just spammed against it and just straight up telling everyone who said it prior that they're wrong and lying. That being said: I don't agree with the general sentiment here, at least EA/Ubisoft/Activision (well, their sub dev companies for that matter) and other companies do try to deliver what they said (with the rulesets, deadlines and possibly funding they got), the day before on the other hand somehow managed to make other games created as actual scams look like genuine projects by not even delivering the actual product that people expected (in a overly basic manner like it usually goes) but an entirely different genre instead.
Slight correction important to understanding how shady Fntastic are: 5:28 Fntastic announced they were closing their studio first, THEN Steam forced refunds days later.
It's something one can say themselves, but it should be backed up or actually asking for forgiveness and not trying to kickstart something again instantly, especially not at weirdly high prices for some features that don't cost as much as developing an entire game.
I dunno, I feel like the stumblings and strange choices they made along the road to release like hyping their audience up with The Day Before news but rug pulling them and introducing other games and apps unrelated to The Day Before count as chances used.
i never got conned by this due to the fact i have the sense not to pre order any game, i will get early access games as i can see what im getting, but i have 0 faith in devs to pre order anything i see as 100% of the time trailers never match game
If they fail the Kickstarter, they'll propably go down the yandere dev route and open up a Patreon and syphon people's money every month while the "volunteer development team" "work on the game".
It seems they are even worse at scamming than they are at making zombie games. Any scammer worth his grift would have reorganized and rebranded at the very least.
One other way they proved they're conmen was their tweet announcing their so-called "comeback" said they would bring back Prop Night, but then on that same tweet they replied to someone's tweet saying they had lost the rights to Prop Night. Now, how do they plan on bringing back a game they cannot bring back by their own admission?
I'm not sure Fntastic understands the discussion. People aren't accusing them of stealing assets, they're accusing them of stealing customer money with asset flips. Entirely different
8:48 Except Stumble Guys is an actual Fall Guys copy that exists and is apparently actually super fun (I think many actually like it more than Fall Guys). Which makes this new Fntastic game even MORE redundant. lol
I saw there was a big donation and they did a comment saying they believe the intentions were not good so returned it....I suspect they had donated it but took it back just in case
I'll give Fntastic this: the giant unblinking head whose warped and ever-expanding body suddenly vibrated out of the ground and towered overhead was legitimately scary. Too bad the only true horror bit of their horror game wasn't even intentional.
"Oh yeah most of everything in our game is hand made but a few things." Releases a demo with an oopsy with all their files and find 99% is just bought assets mushed together.
Just like that zoo body horror game was advertised as a slow burn "oh will you find a cure" but turns out the dev rushed it out as a rogue-like with multiple endings.
Loads of people did. Simply because it's not realistic, games like Project Zomboid and 7 Days to Die have been in developement for a decade to get where they are, all while working contract to even further fund the developement - something like The Day Before is what AAA companies stay away from because it costs too much time and money, bugfixes need to be plentiful and every update needs a ton of prior testing, even if it sells well at a 30% higher price than the usual AAA game a lot ot mtx would need to be sold under guarantee to even turn a profit on it - it's just too risky and complex to properly make. Closest that'd get there is going to be State of Decay 3, but that's from a team that worked previously on that kind of game while generally keeping it more simple.
The only way they could completely gain my trust is to just fix their last game, The Day Before. Deliver what you said and your past will be forgiven; until then I do not trust you.
Nah, be honest about that it never was realistic and not ask for funding for another product would be a start. Anyone that got a clue knows that a product like The Day Before never could've been done by an indie dev in any realistic amount of time, it's already too expensive and takes too much time invest at a way too high risk for big companies, otherwise they'd have long cashed in on something like that.
This reminds me when Digital Homicide tried to stage a comeback by "addressing" their past controversies and genuinely seemed to think that they'd be forgiven and have people on their side. Honestly, you'd have a much better chance of getting your scheme to work if you hid your identity and went in as a new developer. Like, what would that have taken? A new Twitter account? Or did you really think you'd have some good will left to cash in that you couldn't leave on the table?
When I first looked, there was one backer on the highest tier, that made up more than half of what they were asking for. The next day that backing was gone and they were back down to around what I can see in this video. Felt pretty suspicious and I wouldn't put it past them for it to just be them trying to reach the goal to ensure they get the payout.
I remember seeing Matt McMuscle's video on _The Day Before_ where he explained that the game was apaprently always being developed as an extraction shooter, and the devs themselves were shocked when the trailer anounced it as an MMO.
They couldn't even wait one year or so - that's amazing. Guess the app they were promoting during the developement of The Day Before didn't make much money either ... And they didn't even bother to change the name of the studio or create a new one like most scammers. No, they fight for their honor. These brothers are special.
You do realize that Pre-ordering still allows for the full refund window (x time played for x weeks after release) on any store that is worth their salt, right?
No Man's Sky didn't live up to the hype but it was clear that the devs were actually trying to make the game they said they were making, at least, and it made sense that what was released fell short but existed on the same timeline. This is like... not even vaguely what they said they were making.
When I first saw this.. it ticked every box I'm a sucker for.. Zombies check, post apocalypse check, MMO zombie.. sounds good! Sad trombone.. womp womp.. And this pisses me off.. TAKE MY MONEY! why can't someone make a game like this>?!
Because it'll probably be impossible to cram that many features into a game and make them good. Closest ultimate zombie game I can think of is Zomboid, and that's a more tactical style game, and even though it looks like the sims 1, it can make lower end PCs chug when you encounter the MASSIVE hoards, imagine what kind of hardware you'd need to make it cutting edge graphics?
Because why would they? You can make a completely broken game with a nice trailer and get big cash out of it so why bother making an actual game if this works too? This scam goes since 2010 and the sheep fall for it every single time and always will preorder cause of some nice trailer
@@jampine8268 Not impossible, just extremely expensive, costs loads of time and ressources and is too high of a risk as it not only needs to sell really well, but also needs a ton of extra income. Zomboid is a great example, the devs follow their vision and want to fullfil their vision, not once did they ask for extra money - the time it takes to develope every update and the fact that they work contracts on the side to even fund the project shows perfectly what it takes to even make something along those lines. Same goes for 7 Days to Die, no extra cash asked for, working contracts on the side - they've released it now, but I guess it's primarily because they don't want to expect people more than they can realistically deliver at this point.
The word that comes to mind is "Chutzpah": The quality of someone who offs their parents and then begs the authorities for mercy because they are an orphan.
I'm not actually ordering from them, but $52 for 3 t-shirts is barely more than you'd pay at Old Navy if you aren't shopping sales, and Old Navy t-shirts are roughly the durability of wet Kleenex. I regret to inform you that yes, in 2024, the normal price of a whole shirt is going to typically be more than a single fast food meal.
If Fantastic games hadn't appealed to the public but, had gone to private investors do you feel the investors would have been impressed with the end product? Cause I feel that is what this should be compared to.
Unbelievably enough, there seem to be some people supporting the Kickstarter. But also - the sum of money they are asking for seems weirdly specific... (13.127) ... maybe they just have to pay off some debts?
They should have made a video where the gotovtsev brothers go in front of camera and said something on fant-4-stic 2.0 I guarantee it will cause a bigger stink and yes, more value for the people shitting on them
I like how they have a new logo and made a song and dance how that makes things better, new logo is just a bought font of the company name. I have a fixed version for them :D SCMMER instead :D
biggest lie known to man, is "were gonna tell the truth this time".... lol i saw the day before and thought, yeah that might be fun i will forget its existence till people praise it, then got my reminder years later and not in a good way so i skipped it lol
They didnt refund, Steam did it, this scammers didnt even receive the money to refund people in the first place, you have to wait 1 month or so before receiving the money.
Cal is there any way we could try a grift like this? I mean, pull a “day before” and then come back a few months later with another grift? I need the money lol
But this is actually their 3rd chance. Prop Night was also a crap asset flip, and was not the game they originally funded iirc. The Day Before was their second scam game! 😂
how's the development of nightmare world going? even if it is just backend, networking, assets or something like that. It's nice to hear about it. Are there still people working on it, or are there issues blocking it? i know it's a free time project, so i don't expect anything, but info and dreaming are fun
What I don't understand is why they returned under the same company name. The amount of vitriol and bad press that company has is going to make any game. They release under a microscope manned by people that want to find something wrong with it. And they have every right to considering the company's history. So what I don't get is why they opened under the same name. If it's a scam, it'd be a lot easier to scam people if you didn't have the same company name. If it's a legit attempt out of comeback, it would be better to do it under a company name that doesn't have such negative press around it
But they are not trying to push a legit product. This is a pump and dump. The last catastrophe was so legendary it guarantees they will get a serious number of people in the media covering them and out of all those eyeballs, somebody is going to be dumb enough to throw them some coins. If they weren’t the same company, they’d get no coverage
@@richardlivings8640 I suppose. I just don't see how they'll hit their goal with the same name as the last catastrophe. I'm under no illusion that it's a genuine product they want to make their comeback with. But if I were a greedy scammer, I'd pump some into marketing with a fresh company, that way even if you don't have the same reach, people who didn't look any further than the new company name wouldn't really hesitate any more than any other Kickstarter game. But everyone who knows about the day before knows who fntastic is, and they're heralding this as their comeback, which to me at least, means they want people to know that they screwed up if they don't already, and supposedly they "learned" from their mistakes. I don't buy it either way, but the whole situation just seems so half baked for a grift, and 1/10th baked for a genuine product.
Given how much they kept making videos of themselves talking with no game play before, I can only assume it's some kind of ego thing? It seems it's simply not enough for them to be wealthy, but everyone has to KNOW they're wealthy, anyone with a lick of sense would have gathered that much money for a scam under a fake name, but they kept shoving their faces in clear view of the camera.
Probably a different strategy. If they tried a new company, the brothers would never be able to show their faces because everyone would immediately recognize them. They want to conn everyone into thinking it was a mistake and not clear negligence, employee abuse, etc etc
I really cant imagine the balls ot takes to run a scma like they did, constantly lie and avoid responsibility, and still come back and ask for money. But hey they clearly learned something. This time they are asking for money before releasing the game 😂
Why not? its common and a thing since 2010 that happened so many times and the sheep never wake up anyway, they always continue sleeping and preorder even the most garbage off some nice promise lol
Why didn't you include the person that backed the game on the highest tier? Maybe the video was made The Day Before if you catch my drift 😉 what a legend! If you want to see that watch kiras video on this it's funny.
When are you guys finally going to admit that nightmare world was abandoned? I mean if youre going to keep claiming everyone else is a grifter and a scammer the least you can do is be honest
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To be fair to Fntastic, they wanted to come out the gate by releasing a triple A game, and they suceeded in doing just that in 2024.
A broken, bland, barely funtional, bare bones piece of shit.
Ubisoft et al would have been proud.
*shrug* Why making a finished or working product if they can make money that way too? this scheme is working since 2010 and the sheep fall for it every single time
@@PuellaMagiHomuraAkemi Yeah, making players pay full price to be beta testers, and then people who wait till the games are 10-20 bucks and is fixed and polished as it should have been at launch all win. I paid 5 dollars brand new(I think I even got a steel case)for Cyberpunk 2077 after its terrible launch. Then they fixed it and the price went back up, lol.
@@EarthboundX Cyberpunk is the absoloute best example for people not wanting to listen to anything.
Everyone that actually knows CDPR knew that it'll be buggy as hell on launch (like all their launches), but all the people who bought Witcher 3 after most fixes and the movement update just spammed against it and just straight up telling everyone who said it prior that they're wrong and lying.
That being said: I don't agree with the general sentiment here, at least EA/Ubisoft/Activision (well, their sub dev companies for that matter) and other companies do try to deliver what they said (with the rulesets, deadlines and possibly funding they got), the day before on the other hand somehow managed to make other games created as actual scams look like genuine projects by not even delivering the actual product that people expected (in a overly basic manner like it usually goes) but an entirely different genre instead.
"broken, bland, barely functional, bare bones"? Sounds more like a BBBB game.
@@EarthboundX Of course if no-one at all buys it at launch, they'll just scrap the whole thing and then no-one wins.
I'm betting "hand-crafted" means "human hands were used to type in the prompt for the AI art- and music-generation models we used".
They are also banning everyone in the steam forums who point out they're scammers.
Begs for a 2nd chance, meanwhile they're on something like chance #7 at this point. It's scams all the way down
The Day After The Day Before
The Day After the Day That Was the Day Before the Day Before: Game of the Year Edition: Remastered (BackUpButDontShipWithYourGame)
Slight correction important to understanding how shady Fntastic are:
5:28 Fntastic announced they were closing their studio first, THEN Steam forced refunds days later.
THIS! They weren't going to pay people back at all if steam hadn't forced them...scammers 100% 💀
They basically launched and next day said they weren't supporting it going forward. Thanks for the money, though!
_"Everyone deserves a second chance"_
That could be what others say about you but it's not something you get to decide for yourself
It's something one can say themselves, but it should be backed up or actually asking for forgiveness and not trying to kickstart something again instantly, especially not at weirdly high prices for some features that don't cost as much as developing an entire game.
I dunno, I feel like the stumblings and strange choices they made along the road to release like hyping their audience up with The Day Before news but rug pulling them and introducing other games and apps unrelated to The Day Before count as chances used.
i never got conned by this due to the fact i have the sense not to pre order any game, i will get early access games as i can see what im getting, but i have 0 faith in devs to pre order anything i see as 100% of the time trailers never match game
Their Kickstarter's got about £1000 more than when I first saw it, I really hope this doesn't get funded.
If they fail the Kickstarter, they'll propably go down the yandere dev route and open up a Patreon and syphon people's money every month while the "volunteer development team" "work on the game".
@@kalythai Oh yes, I'm sure Fntastic would find another way to try scamming people even if the Kickstarter for this game doesn't get funded.
Well the Kickstarter failed as of October the 23.
"We take full responsibility for what happened, that's why YOU have to pay us to be better."
If it works why not? cant blame them, milk the sheep they never become aware anyway lol
I love the implication of that opening.
"The Day Before is a Fntastic game."
"Oh it's fantastic?"
"Not quite."
It seems they are even worse at scamming than they are at making zombie games. Any scammer worth his grift would have reorganized and rebranded at the very least.
Well. At least Fntastic is a good revenue generator....for anyone but themselves.
One other way they proved they're conmen was their tweet announcing their so-called "comeback" said they would bring back Prop Night, but then on that same tweet they replied to someone's tweet saying they had lost the rights to Prop Night. Now, how do they plan on bringing back a game they cannot bring back by their own admission?
I'm not sure Fntastic understands the discussion. People aren't accusing them of stealing assets, they're accusing them of stealing customer money with asset flips. Entirely different
8:48
Except Stumble Guys is an actual Fall Guys copy that exists and is apparently actually super fun (I think many actually like it more than Fall Guys). Which makes this new Fntastic game even MORE redundant. lol
It's Just Fall Guys on mobile, and Incredibly blatant at that
@@enderkatze6129 Its pretty active on steam as well last I checked
"Well, our first scam worked so horribly the first time - let's do it again!"
I saw there was a big donation and they did a comment saying they believe the intentions were not good so returned it....I suspect they had donated it but took it back just in case
The person who backed it left a troll post on the kickstarter forums.
@ItsUndeadGaming ahh cheers I missed that completely, I am still expecting more dodgy stuff though
Insert them "how many times do we have to teach you the lesson, old man" memes from SpongeBob
I'll give Fntastic this: the giant unblinking head whose warped and ever-expanding body suddenly vibrated out of the ground and towered overhead was legitimately scary. Too bad the only true horror bit of their horror game wasn't even intentional.
"Oh yeah most of everything in our game is hand made but a few things."
Releases a demo with an oopsy with all their files and find 99% is just bought assets mushed together.
Sh!t happens.......I guess
the fact thay comment that was wild
Ah shit, here we go again. Worst game in the world “The Day Before”
“We’ll make a good game this time.”
Source: trust me bro
2 callum video within a month :o is it christmas already? 😁❤
Just like that zoo body horror game was advertised as a slow burn "oh will you find a cure" but turns out the dev rushed it out as a rogue-like with multiple endings.
I remember calling this game out as fake right off the bat
Loads of people did.
Simply because it's not realistic, games like Project Zomboid and 7 Days to Die have been in developement for a decade to get where they are, all while working contract to even further fund the developement - something like The Day Before is what AAA companies stay away from because it costs too much time and money, bugfixes need to be plentiful and every update needs a ton of prior testing, even if it sells well at a 30% higher price than the usual AAA game a lot ot mtx would need to be sold under guarantee to even turn a profit on it - it's just too risky and complex to properly make. Closest that'd get there is going to be State of Decay 3, but that's from a team that worked previously on that kind of game while generally keeping it more simple.
The Day After Refund and Con-Couldn't-Even-Outlive-A-Fly are really making 2024 for me. So many delicious vids that are tearing into them.
The only way they could completely gain my trust is to just fix their last game, The Day Before. Deliver what you said and your past will be forgiven; until then I do not trust you.
Nah, be honest about that it never was realistic and not ask for funding for another product would be a start.
Anyone that got a clue knows that a product like The Day Before never could've been done by an indie dev in any realistic amount of time, it's already too expensive and takes too much time invest at a way too high risk for big companies, otherwise they'd have long cashed in on something like that.
@@Unknown_Genius I gotta say I agree. 😀
Hand crafted by prompt "engineers" 💀
This reminds me when Digital Homicide tried to stage a comeback by "addressing" their past controversies and genuinely seemed to think that they'd be forgiven and have people on their side. Honestly, you'd have a much better chance of getting your scheme to work if you hid your identity and went in as a new developer. Like, what would that have taken? A new Twitter account? Or did you really think you'd have some good will left to cash in that you couldn't leave on the table?
When I first looked, there was one backer on the highest tier, that made up more than half of what they were asking for. The next day that backing was gone and they were back down to around what I can see in this video. Felt pretty suspicious and I wouldn't put it past them for it to just be them trying to reach the goal to ensure they get the payout.
Watch Kiras video on this, it was a troll that left a funny message on the backer page, so they returned it. What a legend I must say 🤣
I remember seeing Matt McMuscle's video on _The Day Before_ where he explained that the game was apaprently always being developed as an extraction shooter, and the devs themselves were shocked when the trailer anounced it as an MMO.
They couldn't even wait one year or so - that's amazing. Guess the app they were promoting during the developement of The Day Before didn't make much money either ...
And they didn't even bother to change the name of the studio or create a new one like most scammers. No, they fight for their honor. These brothers are special.
I have to wonder, who in their right mind would trust these guys this time?
Somehow, Fntastic returned...
If you don't have a hope, you can't be disappointed. Never believe a hype.
You should've showed off their reward tiers because they're absolutely ludicrous 😂
PPL STOP PREORDERING BECAUSE OF PRETTY TRAILERS! .... NO WRONG!! STOP PREORDERING!
You do realize that Pre-ordering still allows for the full refund window (x time played for x weeks after release) on any store that is worth their salt, right?
As I watched Callum's paid promotion an ad with a way to earn money popped up, YT algorithm is a pinpoint disaster 😅
The sentence "a fantastic game" will never be the same for me
been a while, good to see everyone!
The trailers were so well produced they should pivot to doing film.
This is either going to be a No Man's Sky scenario, or just one of many failed scam games.
No Man's Sky didn't live up to the hype but it was clear that the devs were actually trying to make the game they said they were making, at least, and it made sense that what was released fell short but existed on the same timeline. This is like... not even vaguely what they said they were making.
When I first saw this.. it ticked every box I'm a sucker for.. Zombies check, post apocalypse check, MMO zombie.. sounds good!
Sad trombone.. womp womp..
And this pisses me off.. TAKE MY MONEY! why can't someone make a game like this>?!
Because it'll probably be impossible to cram that many features into a game and make them good.
Closest ultimate zombie game I can think of is Zomboid, and that's a more tactical style game, and even though it looks like the sims 1, it can make lower end PCs chug when you encounter the MASSIVE hoards, imagine what kind of hardware you'd need to make it cutting edge graphics?
Because why would they? You can make a completely broken game with a nice trailer and get big cash out of it so why bother making an actual game if this works too? This scam goes since 2010 and the sheep fall for it every single time and always will preorder cause of some nice trailer
When I first saw it, it ticked every box for an Obvious Scam.
@@jampine8268 Literally Dying Light but MMO. An AAA company would make it good, or at least popular.
@@jampine8268 Not impossible, just extremely expensive, costs loads of time and ressources and is too high of a risk as it not only needs to sell really well, but also needs a ton of extra income.
Zomboid is a great example, the devs follow their vision and want to fullfil their vision, not once did they ask for extra money - the time it takes to develope every update and the fact that they work contracts on the side to even fund the project shows perfectly what it takes to even make something along those lines.
Same goes for 7 Days to Die, no extra cash asked for, working contracts on the side - they've released it now, but I guess it's primarily because they don't want to expect people more than they can realistically deliver at this point.
The word that comes to mind is "Chutzpah": The quality of someone who offs their parents and then begs the authorities for mercy because they are an orphan.
HELL YEAH!
the day before drama again!
they didnt wait long enough before their return...
The day after the day before? :D
@@CallumUptonhaha yep clearly, the shitshow is real XD
Days before-
Weeks Before?
The grift that keeps on grifting.
52$ for 3 T-shirts is outrageous.
I'm not actually ordering from them, but $52 for 3 t-shirts is barely more than you'd pay at Old Navy if you aren't shopping sales, and Old Navy t-shirts are roughly the durability of wet Kleenex. I regret to inform you that yes, in 2024, the normal price of a whole shirt is going to typically be more than a single fast food meal.
At this point people deserve to be scammed. They have 34 backers??? Wtf how stupid can someone be.... ffs
_Baby, I swear I've changed, just give me one more chance_
Yay!! Another awesome video by Callum! Absolutely one of my favorite content creators.
It’s the zombie version of Groundhog Day.
Scammers will be scammers
Its quite amusing fatastic are accusing people of spreading false information..ah hem..
If Fantastic games hadn't appealed to the public but, had gone to private investors do you feel the investors would have been impressed with the end product? Cause I feel that is what this should be compared to.
Unbelievably enough, there seem to be some people supporting the Kickstarter. But also - the sum of money they are asking for seems weirdly specific... (13.127) ... maybe they just have to pay off some debts?
Theyre upset that Concord beat their record of shortest server uptime.
Callum! Hope you're keeping well my guy xx
How can so many people be so Gullible
It's Super Mario we have at home.
It's fantastic, made of plastic.
Oh, so sh!t's gonna happen again. TBH, it's even funnier this time
It looks like Deathrun but with floppy dudes.
I'm glad for the delays. I would have definitely fallen for this game. But then I kept seeing it get downgraded each showing
those guys are a joke. please don't give them any additional money.
They should have made a video where the gotovtsev brothers go in front of camera and said something on fant-4-stic 2.0
I guarantee it will cause a bigger stink and yes, more value for the people shitting on them
If it was from any other developer, I could even think about founding an isometric view fall guys (if it was single player and no drm).
I like how they have a new logo and made a song and dance how that makes things better, new logo is just a bought font of the company name. I have a fixed version for them :D SCMMER instead :D
6:30 anything brewing in bowels is probably going to be shit lol
But Callum *THIS TIME* they're being honest! Never mind that that implies they weren't the first time. But this time they are!
But like every Ponzi-scheme, this time is different! - That one guy
LOL, 'Stumble Dudes'. 😄
I just looked myself lmao, FNTastic was community noted to death.
biggest lie known to man, is "were gonna tell the truth this time".... lol i saw the day before and thought, yeah that might be fun i will forget its existence till people praise it, then got my reminder years later and not in a good way so i skipped it lol
Somehow Fntastic returned.
They didnt refund, Steam did it, this scammers didnt even receive the money to refund people in the first place, you have to wait 1 month or so before receiving the money.
They should have rebranded to Trrific
But Callum, they have changed! Really!
boy you changed that thumbnail REAL quick lol
Cal is there any way we could try a grift like this? I mean, pull a “day before” and then come back a few months later with another grift?
I need the money lol
The only reason why Escape Factory is decent is because anyone else can make the same game since it's all assets lol
But this is actually their 3rd chance. Prop Night was also a crap asset flip, and was not the game they originally funded iirc. The Day Before was their second scam game! 😂
can you take a look in to the game Rooted?
how's the development of nightmare world going? even if it is just backend, networking, assets or something like that. It's nice to hear about it. Are there still people working on it, or are there issues blocking it? i know it's a free time project, so i don't expect anything, but info and dreaming are fun
Where is nightmare world callum.
dead
Is Nightmare World still happening or is the project abandoned?
abandoned. Dreamworld is actually good and playable now surprisingly
Lmao shit happened The Day Before
Nightmare World devlog when? ❤
After nightmare world. Can we expect a zombie mmo next?
What I don't understand is why they returned under the same company name. The amount of vitriol and bad press that company has is going to make any game. They release under a microscope manned by people that want to find something wrong with it. And they have every right to considering the company's history. So what I don't get is why they opened under the same name. If it's a scam, it'd be a lot easier to scam people if you didn't have the same company name. If it's a legit attempt out of comeback, it would be better to do it under a company name that doesn't have such negative press around it
But they are not trying to push a legit product. This is a pump and dump. The last catastrophe was so legendary it guarantees they will get a serious number of people in the media covering them and out of all those eyeballs, somebody is going to be dumb enough to throw them some coins. If they weren’t the same company, they’d get no coverage
@@richardlivings8640 I suppose. I just don't see how they'll hit their goal with the same name as the last catastrophe. I'm under no illusion that it's a genuine product they want to make their comeback with. But if I were a greedy scammer, I'd pump some into marketing with a fresh company, that way even if you don't have the same reach, people who didn't look any further than the new company name wouldn't really hesitate any more than any other Kickstarter game. But everyone who knows about the day before knows who fntastic is, and they're heralding this as their comeback, which to me at least, means they want people to know that they screwed up if they don't already, and supposedly they "learned" from their mistakes. I don't buy it either way, but the whole situation just seems so half baked for a grift, and 1/10th baked for a genuine product.
Wanted Gwinneth to be right and the douche to work
why not just open up another company so that people can't tie it to the them? o.O
Given how much they kept making videos of themselves talking with no game play before, I can only assume it's some kind of ego thing?
It seems it's simply not enough for them to be wealthy, but everyone has to KNOW they're wealthy, anyone with a lick of sense would have gathered that much money for a scam under a fake name, but they kept shoving their faces in clear view of the camera.
Probably a different strategy. If they tried a new company, the brothers would never be able to show their faces because everyone would immediately recognize them. They want to conn everyone into thinking it was a mistake and not clear negligence, employee abuse, etc etc
I really cant imagine the balls ot takes to run a scma like they did, constantly lie and avoid responsibility, and still come back and ask for money.
But hey they clearly learned something. This time they are asking for money before releasing the game 😂
Why not? its common and a thing since 2010 that happened so many times and the sheep never wake up anyway, they always continue sleeping and preorder even the most garbage off some nice promise lol
The brothers are desperate
I asked this ages ago and you said you were still working on it, but… I have to assume Nightmare World’s dead now?
Half of the video is the recap
90% of content creators rhay cover this stuff have covered this. Callum is always one of the last.
Skip to 06:30 for content
You've missed like 5 oportunities to use fantastic, really disappointed in u Callum.
Why didn't you include the person that backed the game on the highest tier? Maybe the video was made The Day Before if you catch my drift 😉 what a legend! If you want to see that watch kiras video on this it's funny.
When are you guys finally going to admit that nightmare world was abandoned? I mean if youre going to keep claiming everyone else is a grifter and a scammer the least you can do is be honest