Misusing the DMCA system is the ultimate in scumminess from devs, and tells me that I don't ever, ever, EVER want to give them my money or support. Screw those guys.
@@ItsMeMattCarter Yea, I just don't understand the C&D sent to Callum. It references the GDPR and mentions it was filed in Boulder, Colorado. WTF does Boulder, Colorado have to do with an EU law? And why would GDPR apply in ANY way to a U.S. DMCA claim? It boggles my mind how absolutely, stunningly stupid the M2M devs are. It's like they literally lit their company on fire so we can watch it burn.
@@drizztcat1 Pretty much everything about this, from the fake testimonials to that "legal notice" makes me, personally, think they're using ChatGPT to write everything for them and just using whatever it wants to barf up without even checking if it makes sense.
This "legal threat" e-mail reads like those badly written scam e-mails that Atomic Shrimp bait and troll in his channel from time to time. It's same "I'm not that fluent in English" and "I have no idea what I'm talking about" feeling.
I have read a whole lot of legal demand letters and this in no way even remotely resembles a proper demand letter. Whoever wrote this is definitely not a lawyer.
Yeah it also talks about TRADEMARK law, which is NOT applicable as he's not selling any product to begin with. Trademarks are for TRADE protection exclusively! It's impossible to violate it without trying to sell the thing you're ripping off! The fact they issued a Copyright takedown also means it's pretty explicitly about Copyright (c) which is different from Trademarks (tm), that's intellectual property law 101. If you sell a lunchbox with Morkey Mice it's trademark violation, if you COPY artwork or rip off music from a Disney film, THAT would be copyright. Trademark law only works in specific context (Disney cannot sue a guy running "Mickey's furniture store" unless they prove it cuts into their sales), unlike Copyright, which is absolute (doesn't matter WHERE or how you used footage you don't have a right to copy), but it is very abusable too, as you can trademark dictionary words, which led to Candy Crush something devs absolutely trying to close any game or app that had anything to do with candies (OR sagas), but they would be unable to sue actual candy stores or viking saga stuff (didn't they try to sue Banner Saga?). Anyway, all that ONLY applies if you're actually cutting into their sales _in that specific product niche they can prove they're selling,_ which is impossible to do with a UA-cam video that doesn't sell games.
So let me get this straight : - Callum makes video about the Kickstarter - said video gets copyright takedown - people make videos about this calling out the company - Gameforge notices that these guys are trying to once again proft off their work BECAUSE they decided to copyright strike you Man talk about shooting yourself in the foot . If they hadn't tried to get a copyright takedown on you Gameforge might not have heard about them but holy now they are under a massive screwup .
By what I understood from this video I’m not sure if it is even more than one guy. The photos of the people shown on his home page might have been randomly taken from other sites and names made up for them😮
Its crazy how they could've just ignored you and most of us would've been like "hah yeah that looks terrible" and would've never heard of them again. Instead they have all eyes on them for all the wrong reasons.
I haven't seen an apology scream "Oh I am in deep shit" like that in a while. Love you Callum, and damn, sorry it was shitty for your vacation, but I loved seeing you go off on these assholes. Keep up exposing scams like this you are the real champ. Don't forget to send your 'Bulgarian Conspirators' a thank you card btw! lol
What this proves to me more than anything else is how absolutely, abysmally useless the UA-cam DMCA system is. How do you even get a copyright strike on a video where you show no copyrighted material?
thats because youtube gives conmpanies the right of being the prosecutor, the judge and executioner all at once. also they don't want to interact with you at all. unlesss you sue them, so they have to.
@@Unknown_Genius companies absolutely send tons of fake copyright takedowns and ALWAYS get away with them. They are NEVER punished for that. Also they SOMEHOW copyright claim videos that have people's faces in them, which is NOT how law can work, they cannot legally own footage YOU filmed, if the system worked, anyone copyright claiming ENTIRE video with UA-camr's face in it would be sued into oblivion... they're not.
The Striesand Effect is named after Barbera Strieand, who went on television and said that she didn't want any paparazzi to annoy her at her new house. Up until that point, no one knew she had a new house so everyone started researching and found her new house. If she had said nothing, no one would have found out. Hence, Streisand effect.
That's in the middle of the summary I know of. 1) Geologist take pictures of an entire cliff including the top with houses. 2) Streisand somehow learns about this cache of geology pictures that includes her house on said cliff. 3) Streisand starts a lawsuit 4) To prove they have standing to sue. Streisand has to point out which picture and proof they own house in picture. 5) She lost the court case that has undeniable proof that a picture of focused on the cliff has Streisand's house in the picture
@@50fable50 Yep, an erosion tracking database. Like 12,000 photos of the coastline for miles, and that nobody had heard of... Until she tried to sue them. The photo in question is currently on the top of the Wikipedia article describing the effect.
OMG, all this time I thought she was going after paparazzi photos infringing on privacy, which would be reasonable, if useless on internet, but a speck on a GEOLOGY DATABASE? That's narcissism.
I think the funniest thing about this is that Callum didn't even 'really' do anything, he didn't even 'need' to. All he had to do was sit back and watch this utterly lunatic career suicide unveil itself and laugh, and then make a video about all the ways in which these morons did it to themselves.
Streisand effect: I heard about your copyright strike from Kira. Blows my mind how unscrupulous these companies are. And how much more game could they have made if they hadn’t blown so much on lawyers?
that all depends, i guess... do you supposed they actually paid lawyers? (seems unlikely, considering the quality of their correspondence)... do you suppose they paid some dudes claiming to be lawyers? (seems MORE likely at least...) ... or do you figure they just had a drink and spewed up whatever legalese BS they could come up with, imagining that everyone involved would be so terrified of the mere IDEA of being legally pursued that they would just wet themselves and shrivel up? (seems like the MOST likely scenario to me.) so that (probably) $0 spent on lawyers wouldn't really get them that much farther.... lol
The "legal letter" claimed they sued him for TRADEMARK violation while claiming COPYRIGHT, which are two mutually exclusive things. You copyright using specific art assets, and trademark goods in a specific industry. ANY lawyer dealing with intellectual property would know that... So no, they didn't spend much.
Let's fucking go!!! I heard about this mess in Kira's video yesterday so I was excited to see your response so soon. I admire your confidence and honesty even when dealing with shady companies and legal threats. Best of luck and cheers king!
Earth2 has launched a series of frivolous law suits on UA-camrs, that's why those videos stopped. Wouldn't be surprised if that's why dreamworlds stopped
Laniatus: "Stop exposing us, or we'll sue you!" Callum: "You know what? I'm gonna expose you even harder." Memes aside, I watched the video from SidAlpha about this serious topic from those dirty devs. Never stop fighting the good fight for make an awareness like this.
i mean i see where you're coming from... but after hearing it myself, i can only ask... "are you REALLY sure it wasn't a scam email?" xD sounded to me basically like those "i am a pro hacker, and i have videos of the nasty nasty things you've done at your computer" scammers trying to get people to dump bitcoin to some wallet somewhere.
Gotta say this is beyond messed up, so many twists and turns and new secrets revealed in one video, I kinda want a part 2 xD Glad your video is back online and your channel is safe. Love the new outro song, amazing work.
I really enjoy how the grey patterns on your shirt line up with the white outline of your chair. A seemingly insignificant yet very pleasant composition element to look at!
No worse thing one can do on UA-cam than to falsely copyright claim someone, especially when they’re calling you out on your crap. These guys killed any chance they had, which let’s be honest was none to begin with, of ever getting people to cover their game.
I like how the video starts with "This is going to be a bit more of a chill video" and then it's a massacre of: pew pew facts, middle finger, pew pew, YT middle finger. I'm glad UA-cam looked into it and reinstated your video, but sorry about your vacation. Thanks for the video, it was great as always!
The most confusing part about all this is the fact that someone would want to recreate Metin 2. The only reason anyone ever played that thing is because their parents didn't pay for their WoW sub.
First time I've had to stop a video, legitimately go make popcorn, and then come back. Sorry for your headache, but that was an amazing (and hilarious) outcome.
Holy actual crap. I heard about this from Kira's channel, and I was interested in your take once you got to it, and it's even more insane than I thought it could be.
A perfect example of people digging their own grave multiple times, and never learning from their errors. Thank you for covering idiots like these doing scummy stuff, it's one of my favourite contents on YT
"Sir. Sir!! You need to stop! You can't dig a grave here, even if it IS for yourself!" Laniatus mutters to itself, "oh yea? i'll show them. i'll show them all! i'm gonna dig EVEN HARDER!"
Heard about this happening on Kira's channel a few days ago. Glad to see it's being worked out. Does your copyright strike get retracted with the DMCA being retracted? Or is youtube essentially going to punish you for 'causing trouble'? Also are you considering counter suing for their wrongful DMCA? Not sure how that works but I guess it might not be the best choice since it seems like they're going to be too bankrupt to pay anyone soon, haha.
I'd say sue them, but they clearly have no money and are more effort than they are worth. I just wonder what their whole plan was with this. Did they think they could threaten you to shut up? Squeeze a bit of pocket change out of you to throw at the people they owe money to? All of this probably would have gone in their favour if they had just ignored you and continued running their weird little operation.
Thanks for making this information available to the community, and good job at it. At the time I am seeing this video, it already has thousands of views more than the original video that was temporarily taken down... A video I had not seen, so the Streisand effect in direct action because more people are learning about this situation from this video compared to the other one. I'm pointing that out purely for extra engagement with your video, so the algorithm helps push it even more 😂
Wow, this video certainly explained a lot! I actually watched Kira's video earlier and I did wonder if you were going to post something, and it was superb. Love the channel, keep up the good work dude!!
Just looking at this video (after watching Sids). I've reported the game on Steam (twice now) and been banned and had my threads deleted (as have other people). They now have a vague Steam news post on their Steam page saying basically they're sorry, they're "fully committed to bringing our game to fruition". It's a sad joke. I wish Steam would kick these guys off the platform, sadly that doesn't seem to be going anywhere and with them deleting any threads that speak negatively about them, people are not going to see the truth.
I find it interesting that this wild ride of a story has so many parallels to the story of Oath and Ready Up Studios (Kira, Cryyfuu, if you're in here, thank you guys for covering THAT glorious crash-and-burn for the ridiculousness that it was). Private server host > wants to make a full MMO > no money, no skills, no team > goes the scummy Kickstarter route while hiding key info > strikes videos and creators that call out the scummy stuff going on behind the scenes. Only difference is that these guys probably had no intention to deliver anything in the end anyway given the lawsuit with Gameforge beforehand. The self-owning is hilarious too. Anyway, awesome follow-up video, Callum. That new outro song slaps too, ten out of ten all things considered!
I started following a while ago, but I'm deep diving now after your video, then your note, & then Kira's video (haha, what a clusterfuck) about this yesterday. Good on you, man. Enjoying your vids.
I laughed my ass of when i saw the video come back, because at that point i knew the people who did that fake dmca strike were going to get absolutely fucked
I got so confused and had to replay the middle part like 10 times to fully grasp it. Normally a sign of bad video, but here Callum you did your best and it was due to all the absolute chaos made by those people or that person that's 4 persons haha. This is such a rollercoaster. I can't wait for the follow-up!
I just imagined you joining forces with gameforge and sueing for damages and falsely striking your vid, and with the evidence making sure this dude never scams again. New music slaps btw 🔥
3:53 when a lawyer (which is an I dustey that must choose it's words carefully) makes a point to say 'legitimate company' it immediately makes me think... Why are they trying so hard to implant that word?
That ridiculous 'legal' letter you got definitely sounds like how they approached MassiveOP too. They complained that the website 'damaged the brand's image' by refusing to take down the article they put out about the fake testimonials they never wrote, only amending it that they were removed now.
I saw the video. It stuck with me because it was so light-hearted. I remember thinking at the end "yeah it sounds off, but I doubt it needs much attention."
They either got the cheapest, crappiest lawyer who probably shouldn't be a lawyer, or more likely they're just pretending to be lawyer. Clearly whoever wrote the email clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
Instead of this comment, just imagine there's that video of J. Jonah Jameson in SpiderMan 2 laughing when Peter asks for a raise. That is how I feel about the story that has unfolded here. Bravo. That's one hell of an own goal.
oh oh callums next video is gonna be made out of spite and we all know thats when he works in absolute perfection. 🙀 GG magic to master, you dont know whats awaiting you 😁
I reported it to KS with a link to the video from Sid Alpha. Not the first scam I reported on KS, I'm honestly baffled that they actually took it down. Most of the time KS just leave it on, I guess there was too much noise around it
@@CainXVII Yeah, I made the comment halfway through the video. They definitely pulled it because of that. I thought it was weird KS "cared" about a scam on their platform
I love the little fact that the email read "...our LEGITMATE company...." -- because nothing screams legitimate than having to add trustworthy adjectives to the description of whatever it is you are doing. 🤣
i don't think strapping in is enough to prepare for this. its not simply a Ride; we went from 0 to 200.
The age of strapping in is over.
The time of strapping on has begun.
@@FyrsaVT Oolala.
@@FyrsaVT 😳
I needed a neck brace after the G force whiplash of how fast this accellerated off a cliff for these guys.
I felt like I got dumped in a wheelie bin and fired out of a cannon. Not sure if the Ministry of Health and Safety added seat belts to this.
Misusing the DMCA system is the ultimate in scumminess from devs, and tells me that I don't ever, ever, EVER want to give them my money or support. Screw those guys.
absurd that quantum tv is still on youtube lol
Its also a federal offense in the united states "where this was filed".
@@ItsMeMattCarter Yea, I just don't understand the C&D sent to Callum. It references the GDPR and mentions it was filed in Boulder, Colorado. WTF does Boulder, Colorado have to do with an EU law? And why would GDPR apply in ANY way to a U.S. DMCA claim? It boggles my mind how absolutely, stunningly stupid the M2M devs are. It's like they literally lit their company on fire so we can watch it burn.
@@drizztcat1 Pretty much everything about this, from the fake testimonials to that "legal notice" makes me, personally, think they're using ChatGPT to write everything for them and just using whatever it wants to barf up without even checking if it makes sense.
Devs? More like capt Pirate....
This "legal threat" e-mail reads like those badly written scam e-mails that Atomic Shrimp bait and troll in his channel from time to time. It's same "I'm not that fluent in English" and "I have no idea what I'm talking about" feeling.
I’m surprised it didn’t ask for personal information. You know, the type you should never give to a stranger on the internet.
I have read a whole lot of legal demand letters and this in no way even remotely resembles a proper demand letter. Whoever wrote this is definitely not a lawyer.
Its complete bollocks. sending notification of intent to prosecute has feck all to do with GDPR. GDPR is about the processing of an inviduals data
Yeah it also talks about TRADEMARK law, which is NOT applicable as he's not selling any product to begin with. Trademarks are for TRADE protection exclusively! It's impossible to violate it without trying to sell the thing you're ripping off! The fact they issued a Copyright takedown also means it's pretty explicitly about Copyright (c) which is different from Trademarks (tm), that's intellectual property law 101. If you sell a lunchbox with Morkey Mice it's trademark violation, if you COPY artwork or rip off music from a Disney film, THAT would be copyright.
Trademark law only works in specific context (Disney cannot sue a guy running "Mickey's furniture store" unless they prove it cuts into their sales), unlike Copyright, which is absolute (doesn't matter WHERE or how you used footage you don't have a right to copy), but it is very abusable too, as you can trademark dictionary words, which led to Candy Crush something devs absolutely trying to close any game or app that had anything to do with candies (OR sagas), but they would be unable to sue actual candy stores or viking saga stuff (didn't they try to sue Banner Saga?).
Anyway, all that ONLY applies if you're actually cutting into their sales _in that specific product niche they can prove they're selling,_ which is impossible to do with a UA-cam video that doesn't sell games.
So let me get this straight :
- Callum makes video about the Kickstarter
- said video gets copyright takedown
- people make videos about this calling out the company
- Gameforge notices that these guys are trying to once again proft off their work BECAUSE they decided to copyright strike you
Man talk about shooting yourself in the foot . If they hadn't tried to get a copyright takedown on you Gameforge might not have heard about them but holy now they are under a massive screwup .
By what I understood from this video I’m not sure if it is even more than one guy. The photos of the people shown on his home page might have been randomly taken from other sites and names made up for them😮
this is not just shooting yourself in the foot. its dropping dynamite under your feet while a tank drive over your legs holding you in place.
Keep them honest Callum, these scams need to come out to the public!
they deserve to be sent to north korea
Absolutely, content creators exposing scammers are doing great work in my opinion.
Its crazy how they could've just ignored you and most of us would've been like "hah yeah that looks terrible" and would've never heard of them again. Instead they have all eyes on them for all the wrong reasons.
Try not to destroy your company's reputation
IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE
GONE WRONG
I really missed these deeper dives into scams and scummy companies. You're fighting the good fight, keep up the great work Callum
I love how your email account just assumed that the email you got was BS and dealt with it appropriately.
I haven't seen an apology scream "Oh I am in deep shit" like that in a while. Love you Callum, and damn, sorry it was shitty for your vacation, but I loved seeing you go off on these assholes. Keep up exposing scams like this you are the real champ. Don't forget to send your 'Bulgarian Conspirators' a thank you card btw! lol
What this proves to me more than anything else is how absolutely, abysmally useless the UA-cam DMCA system is. How do you even get a copyright strike on a video where you show no copyrighted material?
thats because youtube gives conmpanies the right of being the prosecutor, the judge and executioner all at once.
also they don't want to interact with you at all. unlesss you sue them, so they have to.
@@Unknown_Genius companies absolutely send tons of fake copyright takedowns and ALWAYS get away with them. They are NEVER punished for that. Also they SOMEHOW copyright claim videos that have people's faces in them, which is NOT how law can work, they cannot legally own footage YOU filmed, if the system worked, anyone copyright claiming ENTIRE video with UA-camr's face in it would be sued into oblivion... they're not.
The Striesand Effect is named after Barbera Strieand, who went on television and said that she didn't want any paparazzi to annoy her at her new house. Up until that point, no one knew she had a new house so everyone started researching and found her new house.
If she had said nothing, no one would have found out.
Hence, Streisand effect.
That's in the middle of the summary I know of.
1) Geologist take pictures of an entire cliff including the top with houses.
2) Streisand somehow learns about this cache of geology pictures that includes her house on said cliff.
3) Streisand starts a lawsuit
4) To prove they have standing to sue. Streisand has to point out which picture and proof they own house in picture.
5) She lost the court case that has undeniable proof that a picture of focused on the cliff has Streisand's house in the picture
@@50fable50 said court case gets reported on and reports on the report. if she never did the lawsuit no one would have known about the photos
Exactly. I just summarised in an easy fashion
@@50fable50 Yep, an erosion tracking database. Like 12,000 photos of the coastline for miles, and that nobody had heard of...
Until she tried to sue them.
The photo in question is currently on the top of the Wikipedia article describing the effect.
OMG, all this time I thought she was going after paparazzi photos infringing on privacy, which would be reasonable, if useless on internet, but a speck on a GEOLOGY DATABASE? That's narcissism.
Callum chose to answer with violence and destroyed a man's whole career, and it was very entertaining.
insert tychus: hell, its about time!
I think the funniest thing about this is that Callum didn't even 'really' do anything, he didn't even 'need' to. All he had to do was sit back and watch this utterly lunatic career suicide unveil itself and laugh, and then make a video about all the ways in which these morons did it to themselves.
implying this person even had a career to begin with.
I think Gameforge already put them out of any sort of thing that can be considered a job.
Streisand effect: I heard about your copyright strike from Kira.
Blows my mind how unscrupulous these companies are. And how much more game could they have made if they hadn’t blown so much on lawyers?
that all depends, i guess... do you supposed they actually paid lawyers? (seems unlikely, considering the quality of their correspondence)... do you suppose they paid some dudes claiming to be lawyers? (seems MORE likely at least...) ... or do you figure they just had a drink and spewed up whatever legalese BS they could come up with, imagining that everyone involved would be so terrified of the mere IDEA of being legally pursued that they would just wet themselves and shrivel up? (seems like the MOST likely scenario to me.) so that (probably) $0 spent on lawyers wouldn't really get them that much farther.... lol
@@tzxazrael most likely scenario is using chatgpt xD
The "legal letter" claimed they sued him for TRADEMARK violation while claiming COPYRIGHT, which are two mutually exclusive things. You copyright using specific art assets, and trademark goods in a specific industry. ANY lawyer dealing with intellectual property would know that... So no, they didn't spend much.
Let's fucking go!!! I heard about this mess in Kira's video yesterday so I was excited to see your response so soon. I admire your confidence and honesty even when dealing with shady companies and legal threats. Best of luck and cheers king!
I need an update on dreamworld
I need an update on Nightmare world
I'd be interested in one too
Earth2 has launched a series of frivolous law suits on UA-camrs, that's why those videos stopped. Wouldn't be surprised if that's why dreamworlds stopped
This is the new dreamworld
It was rebranded to nightmare world, it's super good now
This is another one of those "nah, we can't print this, it's way too unrealistic and noone would believe it" stories that actually happened
I heard about this from Kira, good on you for standing up to people who abuse DMCA takedowns.
Same. Kira touched on it lightly but I was not expect this level of total buffoonery.
Callum literally losing his mind over the outrageous stupidity of a so called "developer" is as funny as it is hilarious and VERY interesting. Bravo!
Fake game studio: sends copyright strike
Callum: I see you have chosen death!
Laniatus: "Stop exposing us, or we'll sue you!"
Callum: "You know what? I'm gonna expose you even harder."
Memes aside, I watched the video from SidAlpha about this serious topic from those dirty devs. Never stop fighting the good fight for make an awareness like this.
While you read that legal letter I had to keep reminding myself I wasn't watching a scambait channel and that wasn't a scam email 😂😂😂😂
Though it landed in the scam folder 😂😂😂
i mean i see where you're coming from... but after hearing it myself, i can only ask... "are you REALLY sure it wasn't a scam email?" xD
sounded to me basically like those "i am a pro hacker, and i have videos of the nasty nasty things you've done at your computer" scammers trying to get people to dump bitcoin to some wallet somewhere.
"I had been given bad advice by people in my company"
As bad of a liar he is, I can confirm this statement is true in an ironic way
Specially since it's surely a company of one.
Gotta say this is beyond messed up, so many twists and turns and new secrets revealed in one video, I kinda want a part 2 xD Glad your video is back online and your channel is safe. Love the new outro song, amazing work.
im sorry your vacation got ruined, hold in there your content is great and the community is behind you!
I really enjoy how the grey patterns on your shirt line up with the white outline of your chair. A seemingly insignificant yet very pleasant composition element to look at!
You're right! I love it!
Sid Alpha went fucking feral on these guys. He was ready to go to war, and I was ready to help fund him, haha.
Still am, however I AM hoping to keep things down to 1 lawsuit at a time. ;)
Lanitas: I am going to try to intimidate Callum
Callum: *cracks knuckles, makes new video* This is what we call a "pro gamer strat"
Get ‘em! It’s so cowardly that they tried to strike your channel
How can I ever trust Callum again? I was promised a lie counter...
We'd count it in the lie counter, but there isn't one! Dastardly!
No worse thing one can do on UA-cam than to falsely copyright claim someone, especially when they’re calling you out on your crap. These guys killed any chance they had, which let’s be honest was none to begin with, of ever getting people to cover their game.
I like how the video starts with "This is going to be a bit more of a chill video" and then it's a massacre of: pew pew facts, middle finger, pew pew, YT middle finger. I'm glad UA-cam looked into it and reinstated your video, but sorry about your vacation.
Thanks for the video, it was great as always!
One of these days, these scammers will figure out to stop DMCAing UA-camrs and their grift may actually succeed.
The most confusing part about all this is the fact that someone would want to recreate Metin 2. The only reason anyone ever played that thing is because their parents didn't pay for their WoW sub.
Even weirder is the fact that TWO different teams want to make their own Metin 2 like game. The first Metin 2 clone is called Inferna.
Bruh 😭😂 I literally hollered.
Man, I LOVED Metin2. Quite miss it every now and then, actually.
@@Unknown_Genius I successfully played Metin2 for several years and spent 0 euros! It's possible, just very slow haha
First time I've had to stop a video, legitimately go make popcorn, and then come back. Sorry for your headache, but that was an amazing (and hilarious) outcome.
Dear Callum, you need another vacation after this mess. Hope you can catch a break soon. That little cottage in England looked very nice.
damn, Callum... Its been only a couple months since i've seen one of your videos but the difference in quality is so big, keep it up!
I'm from Sid Alpha's group, and just wanted to say good on you mate for this. Must be a relief knowing this idiot is now under investigation.
Subbed.
Looking forward to an update on this metin2mestermagic saga.
You're doing a grate job. All of this sounds very interesting to follow and you present it in such a nice way, awsome job
I appreciate this company skipping over the part where they shoot themselves in the foot and go for the shotgun
Holy actual crap. I heard about this from Kira's channel, and I was interested in your take once you got to it, and it's even more insane than I thought it could be.
A perfect example of people digging their own grave multiple times, and never learning from their errors. Thank you for covering idiots like these doing scummy stuff, it's one of my favourite contents on YT
And because of this, and maybe whatever else Kira discussed, their Kickstarter is unavailable due to IP dispute. ROFL
"Sir. Sir!! You need to stop! You can't dig a grave here, even if it IS for yourself!"
Laniatus mutters to itself, "oh yea? i'll show them. i'll show them all! i'm gonna dig EVEN HARDER!"
Heard about this happening on Kira's channel a few days ago. Glad to see it's being worked out. Does your copyright strike get retracted with the DMCA being retracted? Or is youtube essentially going to punish you for 'causing trouble'?
Also are you considering counter suing for their wrongful DMCA? Not sure how that works but I guess it might not be the best choice since it seems like they're going to be too bankrupt to pay anyone soon, haha.
Holy shit, what a wild ride that was. Trying to follow along has scrambled my brain so much I don't think I know my own name right now.
This isn't a rabbit hole, this is a subway system that was built with no direction.
Kira gave me the lowdown on it. Their hypocrisy and complete lack of self-awareness was astounding to me.
"One of the things we learned pretty early on is, don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet, because they will catch you." - Gabe Newell
I love the Streisand Effect; makes me aware of so many good creators. Subscribed.
This fiasco is batshit insane. Far more so than Dark and Darker.
The video reminded me of a clown car, every few minutes the whole thing got more and more hilarious and it just kept on coming. 😂
Well done son . I have been glued to this video...cannot wait to see what unfolds from this... x
I'm very disappointed in their response e-mail.
They never defended the 10k sword.
Hahahaha. This was a delight. Thank you Callum! Hopefully you can get out of this unscathed. DMCAs are always scary.
Let's hope you get this unjust copyright strike taken off your channel Callum. It sounds like they didn't want to be exposed
I love that they DMCAd Callum and promptly got DMCAd themselves
Oook this is more clarity from Kira's earlier-video-coverage. Gratitude.
God danm, cant wait for the next part lmao
Just strapping in really wasnt enough
I happened to open my phone instead of tablet on UA-cam and saw your post about the calim, but the video was already back up 🤣
Fight the power, and the power will fight back.
Welcome back, Brother!
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Callum, I'm suing you for the amount of whiplash this video gave me. I may never walk again.
I'd say sue them, but they clearly have no money and are more effort than they are worth. I just wonder what their whole plan was with this. Did they think they could threaten you to shut up? Squeeze a bit of pocket change out of you to throw at the people they owe money to?
All of this probably would have gone in their favour if they had just ignored you and continued running their weird little operation.
Thanks for making this information available to the community, and good job at it. At the time I am seeing this video, it already has thousands of views more than the original video that was temporarily taken down... A video I had not seen, so the Streisand effect in direct action because more people are learning about this situation from this video compared to the other one. I'm pointing that out purely for extra engagement with your video, so the algorithm helps push it even more 😂
Wow, this video certainly explained a lot! I actually watched Kira's video earlier and I did wonder if you were going to post something, and it was superb. Love the channel, keep up the good work dude!!
Just looking at this video (after watching Sids). I've reported the game on Steam (twice now) and been banned and had my threads deleted (as have other people). They now have a vague Steam news post on their Steam page saying basically they're sorry, they're "fully committed to bringing our game to fruition". It's a sad joke. I wish Steam would kick these guys off the platform, sadly that doesn't seem to be going anywhere and with them deleting any threads that speak negatively about them, people are not going to see the truth.
Literally everything in that DMCA was wrong or a lie, incredible!
I did NOT expect to hear about Gameforge in this video but it's like my life is always circling back to Metin2 😂
Keep fighting the good fight buddy! Cant wiat for a follow up.
My god ! .. That was amazing ! .. Just like watching "Inception 2" inside "The Matrix 5" ! ... Can't wait to see a follow up video on the subject ! :D
They probably hired some guy on Fiver to write you that email.
I find it interesting that this wild ride of a story has so many parallels to the story of Oath and Ready Up Studios (Kira, Cryyfuu, if you're in here, thank you guys for covering THAT glorious crash-and-burn for the ridiculousness that it was). Private server host > wants to make a full MMO > no money, no skills, no team > goes the scummy Kickstarter route while hiding key info > strikes videos and creators that call out the scummy stuff going on behind the scenes. Only difference is that these guys probably had no intention to deliver anything in the end anyway given the lawsuit with Gameforge beforehand. The self-owning is hilarious too.
Anyway, awesome follow-up video, Callum. That new outro song slaps too, ten out of ten all things considered!
I started following a while ago, but I'm deep diving now after your video, then your note, & then Kira's video (haha, what a clusterfuck) about this yesterday.
Good on you, man. Enjoying your vids.
I laughed my ass of when i saw the video come back, because at that point i knew the people who did that fake dmca strike were going to get absolutely fucked
New outro music is really sick, totally my kid of music 👍👍
I can't believe they themselves opened a Pandora Box which they created. Mind blowing reveal.
I'm glad you're not going to have to worry about any of this shenanigans bud! 🙏❤ Callum!
Now we just need the popcorn to watch the fireworks when this thing finally blows up, keep up the good work Callum.
I usually listen to your videos while working so I'm only just seeing your adorable praying mantis, and I love her immensely
Thanks for clarifying this Callum! Kira posted something related to this before and after watching yours, I understand what happened.
I got so confused and had to replay the middle part like 10 times to fully grasp it. Normally a sign of bad video, but here Callum you did your best and it was due to all the absolute chaos made by those people or that person that's 4 persons haha. This is such a rollercoaster. I can't wait for the follow-up!
5 minutes in and I can already tell this is a wild ride if THIS is what is in the start.
Gonna get some more water for this.
I just imagined you joining forces with gameforge and sueing for damages and falsely striking your vid, and with the evidence making sure this dude never scams again.
New music slaps btw 🔥
I don't think anyone could write a better analogy for the streisand effect.
The part where I lost it was when The Rock became involved XD
I don't see the outro song on David's Spotify and i'm devastated rn.
To fuck around is human. To find out, divine. Well done mate.
3:53 when a lawyer (which is an I dustey that must choose it's words carefully) makes a point to say 'legitimate company' it immediately makes me think... Why are they trying so hard to implant that word?
I saw Kyra's vid on it and saw your comment. best wishes Callum!
I first started learning about this from Sid Alpha covering what happened to you and he dared them to come at him as well.
That ridiculous 'legal' letter you got definitely sounds like how they approached MassiveOP too. They complained that the website 'damaged the brand's image' by refusing to take down the article they put out about the fake testimonials they never wrote, only amending it that they were removed now.
I saw the video. It stuck with me because it was so light-hearted. I remember thinking at the end "yeah it sounds off, but I doubt it needs much attention."
LOL why would a Colorado court give a shit about GDPR? What a load of BS.
Have we traveled back in time? It‘s somewhat similar to Jim Sterling vs Digital Homicide. And I am all in for it.
Only thing that would have made this better would have been a post credits Metin2 advert!
This is hilariously dumb. Nice to see a corrupt company put their whole foot in their mouth.
They either got the cheapest, crappiest lawyer who probably shouldn't be a lawyer, or more likely they're just pretending to be lawyer. Clearly whoever wrote the email clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
Instead of this comment, just imagine there's that video of J. Jonah Jameson in SpiderMan 2 laughing when Peter asks for a raise. That is how I feel about the story that has unfolded here. Bravo. That's one hell of an own goal.
oh oh callums next video is gonna be made out of spite and we all know thats when he works in absolute perfection. 🙀
GG magic to master, you dont know whats awaiting you 😁
"What a tangled web we weave..." Sir Walter Scott, Scottish writer early 1800''s
I reported it to KS with a link to the video from Sid Alpha. Not the first scam I reported on KS, I'm honestly baffled that they actually took it down. Most of the time KS just leave it on, I guess there was too much noise around it
I think Gameforge getting involved meant the campaign went down. Since Gameforge is suing them (again) KS doesn't want to be involved
@@CainXVII Yeah, I made the comment halfway through the video. They definitely pulled it because of that. I thought it was weird KS "cared" about a scam on their platform
I love the little fact that the email read "...our LEGITMATE company...." -- because nothing screams legitimate than having to add trustworthy adjectives to the description of whatever it is you are doing. 🤣