It's sad to see all these comments of people saying that making dubstep is easy. Let's see you sit next to a computer for the next few hours in front of Ableton or FL Studio or whatever and let's see what you're gonna create. Then we'll talk.
Dubstep is much harder to make than you could imagine. It's literally breaking the music and mashing it up. It's made like noise and it IS noise, but it's definitely a long progress to make it
***** It's not just about sound design, but also finding a scale, using all the right notes, (music theory), how to craft the song itself into something that flows and builds well, etc... There is a lot to it. There is a lot to making ANY type of music. Sure, a guy can quickly put together a drumbeat and a wobble bass in a minute or so, and only have the wobble play one note throughout the whole song and change the lfo rate here and there, and not have any musicality to it at all easily. But that's about the only thing that you can actually call easy. Kinda like saying "basketball is easy" when all you can really do is dunk the ball with no other players around to stop you. ^__^
i was referring to the OP's view that making noise is hard. But yes i know what you mean. A very complex wobble stuck at one note/interval will turn out to be quite monotonous. wobble phrases as i like to call them should not only have different textures. But these sections need to cover a (scale) and be rhythmically arranged to be even legitimately called music. Noise is just all frequencies all the same time. I was just being a smart ass, but it blew over. (considering we are talking about dubstep and not good dubstep, considering I can make music with my but cheeks but not like anyone would buy it on itunes BUTTBEATS)
Dubstep is beyond difficult to produce. there are a lot of constraints (time signature) and you have to make it seem as if there is a focal point, replacing a vocalist with synths, which you must craft yourself in most cases. it is a difficult thing and it's not something you can just get some friends together from highschool to help you with you have to first have a dec understanding of modern computers, and the list goes on. bringing in new elements, having decent ears to tell between your layered sounds etc etcetc i could go on for hours. Skrillex rose to fame out of hard work, Love for his Passion ,and determination. nothing more. nothing less. Skrillex helped to pioneer Electro and Dubstep music into enough of a mainstream light that many many electronic producers can now have successful careers, esp in america
Crazy how this still pertains to the modern state of dubstep, although now sounds and other resources are much more accessible for producers than it was when Skrillex started out. Plus, on top of his innovation from over a decade ago, he is still relevant today and influencing the next generation of producers! If it wasn't for him i wouldn't have ever started making music, truly the greatest and most impressive producer of all time.
cause hes not underground yo, there was people in that genre that got lost in time cause of skrillex taking over the word dubstep go check out deep midi records
so you say there is no creativity ,nothing unique?that it still isn't good music?there are hundreds of rock/punk/pop artists who just go up stage and sing some lyrics written by some other guy..but who the hell cares because it's good and you enjoy it.Now Skrillex is someone who actually knows how to play guitar,knows how to sing, so I respect that.If he creates something that people like than who am I to complain :) you can dislike him, but that is not a reason to hate someone
uhh using someone elses sounds and getting famous for them, yea no. plus i never said i hated skrillix himself just the music and effort he puts into it
well "everything is a copy of a copy of a copy"(Fight Club) and "good artists copy but great artists steal" (Picasso) but we could argue about this a while for at the end of the day different opinions remain different opinions
Some of you people shock me. It's amazing how people these days just HAVE to be better than everyone, or they HAVE to be fuckin' right about everything, when all we REALLY need to do is just sit back and listen to the damn music. Now, I really like Skrillex. He's a big inspiration of mine when it comes to making music, along with many other artists from many other genres. But you don't see me arguing with anyone who doesn't like him, do you? Nope. Never. Because music isn't about conflict. It's about love, and passion, and coming together and creating something beautiful. There's no need to get in someone's face because they like music that you don't like, or because they don't like music you enjoy. If you like a song or an artist, then turn it up and listen. And if you don't like it, listen to something you do like. It's THAT simple, yet not a whole lot of people seem to understand it. Stop arguing with people about musical tastes and just listen to the music. And if you read this whole comment, thank you. I hope you learned something.
I agree with your statement entirely. People should just sit back, pop a drink, and just enjoy the music than go on the Internet and complain about it. It's not what it is made for people.
I agree with everything you wrote and honestly there are many people (mostly young girls) who are "a part of a fandom" and seem to bash every type of music that's different than their favorites.. I mean, if there's a song that I wouldn't like (as long as it's not because it's offensive or rude) then I would simply move on and listen to something I DO like instead of wasting my time trying to explain why "my taste in music is so much better than what everyone else is listening to" like many people are saying. The UA-cam commentary section is always filled with criticism, especially when it comes to music and famous artists - People always want to prove that they are right, even when there is no right or wrong..
Its the Fame Blame Game, its not fair but there has to be a balance between commercialization and respect for the artist himself. Corporate can help bring it to the masses, that's the goal. Don't be a h8tr I just saw him at Voodoo, Im a Jazz snob, I LOVE IT and I am OLD lol
Dubstep: 140 BPM Drumstep: 160-180 BPM Electro: 120-130 BPM House: Poppy at 120-130 BPM Glitch Hop/Moombahton 100-115 BPM Hard Dance- Distorted kick at 150-160 BPM Drum and Bass- 1/3 beat pattern at 160-180 BPM Trap- Below 160 BPM, Very Bassy, Simple beat Trap and Bass- Above 160 BPM same as (Trap) Nu Disco- Usually at 128 BPM with a "Dance Floor" feeling Trance- Any BPM with a "calm" or "sleepy" feeling Big Room House- 128 BPM, simple beat, lots of reverb/echo Thats all the genres I know, I'm sure there are plenty more lol BPM= Beats per Minute
Morons and their "classifying genres by bpm". I think I'm going to go make a 80 bpm DUBSTEP song at double time. Just because, well, I can. ;) BPMs are just the tempo the artist sees fit for the song he wants to create. If he wants to make a House song at 146 bpm, then he can, and will. The ARTIST is the one who classifies HIS music, (he wont do it by bpm), not the fans classifying his music. ^__^
First of all that's what tempo they are usually at. When is the last time you heard a house song at 146 BPM. And I'm the moron? Your just a guy behind a keyboard bro.
pexist88 Lol how so? I don't see anything immature about it. Maybe me laughing at immature morons is immature, but other than that I don't see the immaturity. DJ Javen I did not mean anything personal to YOU, my point was you CAN'T classify ANY genre under a certain range of BPM. It is not up to anyone but the artist to decide what genre his 160 or 80 bpm song goes under. Also, we are ALL just guys behind keyboards when we are on our computers, on youtube. So I don't see how your "insult" makes any sense, "Bro". I am a growing, continuously learning electronic producer. I won't say I'm as good as skrillex, I won't say I'm better than anyone, but I will say I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to the field of music. If you want more than just my word for it when it comes to the bpm stuff, take daft punk for example. They themselves have stated that they didn't know anything about EDM. They originally thought EDM was just 1 guy who produced energy driven, but soulless music. They would say that music is all abut the soul, musicality, and the purpose behind the song. Not the rhythm, and energy. There is nothing wrong with having an energetic, rhythmic song, it just needs to have a clear purpose, and a sense of emotions and feelings put behind it. A story. Deadmau5 would even agree. Take his new album for example, he is known as one of the best in the electronic music industry, but he decided to release a 2 disc album filled with SO much musicality, emotions, soul, and a story, but STILL kept that electronic presence there. Anyways all this comes down to one point, IT DOESN'T MATTER THE BPM, ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT THE ARTIST SET IT TO BE. So please don't waste your time and try to put all the sub-genres of electronic music into strict bpm ranges in your comments on youtube videos. It's a waste of time, and un-factual. Good day.
fast forward to now. owning one of the most successful labels in the electronic industry, only getting more noticed, and branching out into other genres but still keeping that skrillex feel. Sonny has definitely earned my respect.
Wedges He seems to have hit quite some musical achievements at the age of 26. at the time being FFTL was one of the biggest bands in their genre and now, hate him or love him, who in the electronic world has not heard of his name yet. I'd say he definitely has musical talent.
+the mad ginger they are still around. they even re-recorded 3 of their most famous songs with the new singer and they sound even better than with sonny.
LOL, are you serious? David Guetta knows jack shit... He got a guy that ghost produced all of his tracks. He is just the brand and image of that successfull name.
I hate him because I like his melodies, but his drops are absolute shit and tend to ruin otherwise decent songs. They sound like Japanese Noise music, not dubstep. And also...calling yourself dubstep while having a distinct lack of wubs bothers me. The odd thing: I used to listen to From First to Last a lot. They weren't the best emo/screamo group, but the titles were things so ridiculous in themselves that you had to pay attention. I mean, "Dear Diary, My Teen Angst Has a Body Count"? Is that not one of the best album titles ever?! If anything, it's the best musical statement that band could have made. "We're young, we're depressed, and we're violent. Deal with it."
His sound may be distinctive but unfortunatley his form of music cant really fit into the genre of dubstep. i mean yeah it can but it isnt how dubstep was meant to be
Being a die hard Dubstep fanatic i think that Skrillex produces music that dosent really meet the circumstances in order to fall into the Dubstep genre but die hard Skrillex fans are welcome to debate. Most Skrillex fans aren't paying much attention to the Dubstep community there for Skrillex fans dont know what the true meaning of Dubstep is. But i am just a die hard Dubstep fan
Yes, Skrillex isn't really dubstep but that's not a bad thing. Also, It's a bit silly saying Skrillex fans don't know the true meaning of dubstep or that they don't pay attention to the dubstep community cause I know what dubstep is, I produce it.
Well woozworld9 you either need new friends or your just not someone who lives in the mainstream, like me I like to live on the Alternative side of life
Artists who my favorite electronic music musician, Skrillex is influenced by: - Aphex Twin - The Chemical Brothers - Daft Punk (biggest influence) - Darude - Deadmau5 - The Doors - Fatboy Slim - Justice - Marilyn Manson - Nine Inch Nails - The Prodigy - Squarepusher
Sonny is not the most hated man he is the best guy you could ever meet and a good DJ player thats all the haters talking hater can hate that dosent stop sonny's career
For me it started when I first saw the Skrillex battle on ERB. One of my friends said "It would be cool to get his hairstyle wouldn't it?" but then I really considered Skrillex's haircut and soon got it. Then I started listening to his music, and soon began to love dubstep, especially Bangarang and Kill Everybody. Now Skrillex is one of my idols.
The underground scene hates him because everybody thinks he invented dubstep and he didn't. Also, he made only a few tunes that could be classified as dubstep, but most of his productions are electrohouse, basshouse and drumstep. Personally I like a lot of his (older) tunes but I wouldn't put it in my dubstep playlist.
hey man.. Listening to somebody before he is famous is just a coincidence. The fact is that it doesn't really help your life in a life changing way so I don't see why it's a big deal
Skrillex is the greatest producer and artist of all time. He has totally changed modern music for the better with his completely and totally unique sound and is still influencing newer generations of producers. Without his music I would never have started producing
It's from a trailer for a documentary about musicians from different genres collaborating with each other...I forget what the documentary is called though, sorry
i hate it when people say that skrillex invented dub step it says it right in this video when people like benga/hatcha/caspa/were inventing the sound of dub step skrillex was doing emo metal shit i dont hate skrillex i just dont like his music there are tons of better dubstep producers that will never get the coverage or respect that he gets
The true pioneers of dubstep, Bengal and skream stopped making dub step because of Skrillex's super loud Brostep variant. Thing is that's with anything music is always replaced with more popular alternatives of the genre.
I used to hate Skrillex due to everyone calling him a 'dubstep artist' when he only had one (maybe two at a push) dubstep songs at the time, but after he openly admitted he wasn't a dubstep artist I gave his music a shot and he is good at making EDM for sure
i think of sonny as a musician and producer. not necessarily. i mean shoot first time i was a fan of him he was a singer in my mind. but man this guy is so multi talented. and if you haven't heard their albums with sonny you are missing out because its super sick.
Alvin Edwards That's like saying Drake or Vanilla Ice are a rap heavyweight just based on principle, and that's not true even in the slightest.. Daft Punk are "Electro Heavyweights," Pendulum and Prodigy are "Electro Heavyweights," Jamiroquai, Chemical Brothers, etc, NOT Guetta. You have to actually put time and effort into your projects. You actually have to experiment and make tracks built out of genuine expression/originality, not just make a bunch of generic tracks that literally all sound the same aside from a few misplaced notes. When you openly admit to "making your songs sound similar so that it's easier for DJs to mix," you negate yourself from even remotely being elegable for the title of "Electro Heavyweight." And that's not coming from an "electro purist," that's coming from someone who actually dabbles in multiple forms of self expression. Note that even though music is also a product, the pursuit of monetary consumption should never fully compromise, or interfere with the process of making an original/unique artistic piece as a whole.
OgI Kidd I don't think Vanilla Ice is a valid example because he is a one hit wonder and actually Drake IS a heavyweight and that's not my opinion that's credible artist sources saying that. Every album he has put out has been certified platinum or at least high gold status, but back to the topic... To say David Guetta isn't a "heavyweight" just because he hasn't put that much time or isn't a veteran is nonsense.These days you don't have to have been in the music industry for 20 years in order to be considered a heavyweight nor does it have to take you very long to even make a track in order for it to be considered "creative". He has an approach to making music the way he wants and a niche that works obviously because he's selling records and that is ultimately what is all about. However you want to look at it, music is a business and the goal is to get paid from doing it so you can continue doing it. I'm sure David Guetta has plenty artistic expression and originality in his music and i don't believe his music is compromised by him making it more playable for DJ's. Just think about that... That's actually smart music business since you need to be played and heard in order to be successful. I understand what you are trying to say but feel its based mostly on your own opinion and not real facts. Because the fact is he's successful at making music, bottom line. I mean we are having a conversation about him right now aren't we? I'm no Electro purist either, I actually do hip hop mostly and have worked with many successful industry Artists and companies. Soundcloud.com/risingson29
Vanilla Ice actually does count because he does in fact have other songs period besides the one. He still actually attempted to be more, even going as far as to star in his own movie in attempt to boost himself (it sucked). Drake is NOT a heavyweight by any means. First off "that's credible artist sources saying that." In what instance has any artist (specifically within the Hip-Hop world) actually been credible UNLESS they're mad? Many artists both old school and new have praised many the artist, just to shit on them later. Many times not even a week after they hyped them up. It's simply them trying to get in good with whomever so that they might be able to rake in a few pieces of change for themself down the road. Also here's a quote from an actual heavyweight on the matter of gold and platinum records: "If you go platinum, its got nothing to do with luck, it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck." In the end people will settle with whatever is hot to fit in, and then forget about them once their popularity wanes. Case and point Soulja Boy, but yes back to the topic. Just because technology has advanced doesn't mean that the rules have changed. Yes it is definitely much easier to make music and put your shit out there. However in order to actually BE a heavyweight rather than just being "considered one" due to your current popularity, you actually DO have to put time and effort into your craft. Your versatility and skills which you enhance over years of practice and experimentation is what sets you apart from the rest that are only willing to do the bare minimum to make a pay check. It is that same hard work which has made actual veterans respected, remembered, and most importantly forces to be reckoned with for years. Even long after their respective generations' trends have since died. Also success is a personal bar which really no outside source can actually measure. For instance I may not be The Neptunes or Juno Reactor, and may not even be selling the music I put out. But I do consider myself to be pretty successful as I'm happy with what I've done so far, and strive to do in the future. Even if just as a simple side hobby. That said, I'm not going to start calling myself a fucking heavyweight when I haven't even SEEN the surface of what it takes to actually earn such a title. Just because I have a computer and a tiny following that comes and goes, I'm not going to start swinging my dick around. Nor am I going to slap that title on someone who happens to have gotten lucky by doing the same thing (or in Drake's case someone who was basically born lucky). Do not confuse momentary fame and notoriety founded upon constant pointless beefs (Drake), sacrificing one's musical/artistic integrity (David Guetta), and doing only what's currently trendy in the business world (Both). With long term experience, ranging appeal (beyond the lowest common denominator of entertainment), and a strong versatility of musical/artistic capabilities. Neither of them have even attempted to break their molds or branch out, and thus are not heavyweights. Yes by my opinion, but also by what past history has taught us.
OgI Kidd "founded upon constant pointless beefs"?? I think you're thinking of Chris Brown, "Drake", both the rapper and the team that comes up with his music, are amazing at what they do.
This is actually a really informative video. I had no idea Sonny had a persona in the music industry before his debut as Skrillex. Thanks, watchmojo! P.S: David Guetta is kinda meh
And midi controllers keyboards and even drum pads like my maschine mikro mk2 and mastering happens with tools like ssl DAWS like ableton shit its hard work and these are my instruments just like any other artist. (:
Duston McCreary It may not be a physical instrument but with knowledge of music theory and preferable some experience with an instrument such as guitar or piano it can be used to make sounds that could never, ever be achieved with acoustic instruments. Plugins like Massive have a wider sound variety and customization than any piano or violin. With DAW's like Ableton, Logic Pro or Pro Tools you can make amazing music, and it isn't as simple as pushing a big button that says "Make Dubstep", I've spent upwards of 20-30 hours on some of my tunes.
I agree that dubstep is computers and not real instruments, but you do have to know how to use the computer and any other equipment like synths and drum machines. I've played piano for ten years and I could never produce the kind of sounds and music that Skrillex does.
Ever use a Roland mx_1000 it's a electronic piano not real instruments my Ass what is a maschine mk2 or a mpc renaissance just hunks of metal with pads? No an instrument Ive played alto and soprano saxophones for 7 years if my drums pads aren't instrument neither is any things else a human has to use to make music.
I still don't know why people hate on skrillz. He made his way to the top fairly and his music whether electronic or rock was awesome. shit i still blast both ride the wings of pestilence and bangarang.
Its irritating how so many people hate him because of his popularity. To everyone talking shit in the comments section : Whether you like his brand of electronic music or not if you think he isn't talented then you're just a trolling idiot. He succeeded in two very different genres. The kid has skills and he uses them to CREATE something new and from the heart that millions of people enjoy. Try creating something yourself instead of spewing your hate all over the internet.
If popularity is an issue, just remember, popularity doesn't just come out of thin air, the guy is fucking good and has an insane amount of talent and creativity so respect the skrill.
People who think they know all about the EDM genre, listen up real quick. First off i am going to say I am a big Skrillex fan myself. But let me explain something. If you guys have a problem with skrillex, why did you watch this video? If you do not enjoy him, simply don't watch this video or don't even comment negatively towards us or skrilex or fans of skrillex. We're here to enjoy his music, not to bash him.
If you want to hear talent, search up Fytch. Kid is 17 and is an unreal producer. I'm not into Dubstep a whole ton anymore, but he is a definite ear pleaser.
I know right he's awesome Daft Punk is my idol, them and the bee gees is what my big bro and I listened to to them when we were little like 3 and 4 little.
What people simply do not get is that words meanings change overtime. Yes, dubstep was something completely different years ago from what Skrillex produces, but the appearence of new artists started to change the conception of what dubstep is itself (like Datsik), and now saying that Skrillex makes brostep instead of dubstep is just ridiculous. Is rock music the same of what it was 40 years ago? Hell no, but it's still the same name. Genres expand, and people don't seem to get that. The meaning of words gets wider with time, and starts to include more things. Since when is what Skrillex makes dubstep? Since it's known as dubstep. And it has been known as dubstep for some time now... that's how a language works. Stop sticking to the past. The concept of dubstep got wider and includes more stuff now. Get over your hipster feelings
This guy is higher than Dubstep. He moved on. If it wasn't for him, you guys wouldn't be saying he isn't respected in the dubstep genre since he made it popular. This guy is amazing
Don't ever hate on skrillex or any artist period for them doing what they love. They've got talent and have a great sound, which is the reason they're big. I don't like excision, borgore, or bassnectar but I don't hate on them for what they do. They all have different styles, and it's not cool to hate on someone for having a different style.
I never stopped liking Skrillex. Why does he get all the hate? I know dubstep was around long before him, but you gotta hand it to him, he did help put it on the map.
I dont understand why people hate on skrillex while he is a talented dubstep producer,most of the people hating dont understand the meaning of the word work and ambition.Dubstep is realy hard to make and skrillex is making onle hits.
It's sad to see all these comments of people saying that making dubstep is easy. Let's see you sit next to a computer for the next few hours in front of Ableton or FL Studio or whatever and let's see what you're gonna create. Then we'll talk.
Dubstep is much harder to make than you could imagine. It's literally breaking the music and mashing it up. It's made like noise and it IS noise, but it's definitely a long progress to make it
kesha rose if anyone understands LFOs, Mod osc, some granular synthesis, and formant filters, then it shouldnt be that hard.
***** It's not just about sound design, but also finding a scale, using all the right notes, (music theory), how to craft the song itself into something that flows and builds well, etc... There is a lot to it. There is a lot to making ANY type of music. Sure, a guy can quickly put together a drumbeat and a wobble bass in a minute or so, and only have the wobble play one note throughout the whole song and change the lfo rate here and there, and not have any musicality to it at all easily. But that's about the only thing that you can actually call easy. Kinda like saying "basketball is easy" when all you can really do is dunk the ball with no other players around to stop you. ^__^
i was referring to the OP's view that making noise is hard. But yes i know what you mean. A very complex wobble stuck at one note/interval will turn out to be quite monotonous. wobble phrases as i like to call them should not only have different textures. But these sections need to cover a (scale) and be rhythmically arranged to be even legitimately called music. Noise is just all frequencies all the same time. I was just being a smart ass, but it blew over. (considering we are talking about dubstep and not good dubstep, considering I can make music with my but cheeks but not like anyone would buy it on itunes BUTTBEATS)
To some people it is easy. But, the real big part is... Can you handle a Launch Pad or a Loop system on a stage in front of thousands of people.
Dubstep is beyond difficult to produce. there are a lot of constraints (time signature) and you have to make it seem as if there is a focal point, replacing a vocalist with synths, which you must craft yourself in most cases. it is a difficult thing and it's not something you can just get some friends together from highschool to help you with you have to first have a dec understanding of modern computers, and the list goes on. bringing in new elements, having decent ears to tell between your layered sounds etc etcetc i could go on for hours. Skrillex rose to fame out of hard work, Love for his Passion ,and determination. nothing more. nothing less. Skrillex helped to pioneer Electro and Dubstep music into enough of a mainstream light that many many electronic producers can now have successful careers, esp in america
IKR
dankesthours182 finally someone who understands
I respect you for writing this paragraph.
Crazy how this still pertains to the modern state of dubstep, although now sounds and other resources are much more accessible for producers than it was when Skrillex started out. Plus, on top of his innovation from over a decade ago, he is still relevant today and influencing the next generation of producers! If it wasn't for him i wouldn't have ever started making music, truly the greatest and most impressive producer of all time.
"Note to self: I miss you terribly"
-From First To Last
"Note to Sonny: We miss you terribly"
-From First To Last fans
How in the actual hell is he considered the most hated man in dubstep?! He is amazing! I love skrillex
unfortunately our edm society shuns mainstreamers
So true
Read the other comments on this video, he gets LOTS of hate.
He made the genre, how could he be hated in the genre?
cause hes not underground yo, there was people in that genre that got lost in time cause of skrillex taking over the word dubstep go check out deep midi records
it's strange how music can be linked so well with memories...
how could you hate skrillex???!:(
because he puts no effort into it and uses programs revolving around presets like ableton live and FM8
so you say there is no creativity ,nothing unique?that it still isn't good music?there are hundreds of rock/punk/pop artists who just go up stage and sing some lyrics written by some other guy..but who the hell cares because it's good and you enjoy it.Now Skrillex is someone who actually knows how to play guitar,knows how to sing, so I respect that.If he creates something that people like than who am I to complain :) you can dislike him, but that is not a reason to hate someone
uhh using someone elses sounds and getting famous for them, yea no. plus i never said i hated skrillix himself just the music and effort he puts into it
well "everything is a copy of a copy of a copy"(Fight Club) and "good artists copy but great artists steal" (Picasso) but we could argue about this a while for at the end of the day different opinions remain different opinions
and i have no intent on arguing
I personally am not a huge fan of Skrillex, but I respect him as an artist. He is really talented and doesn't deserve all the hate he is getting.
Some of you people shock me. It's amazing how people these days just HAVE to be better than everyone, or they HAVE to be fuckin' right about everything, when all we REALLY need to do is just sit back and listen to the damn music. Now, I really like Skrillex. He's a big inspiration of mine when it comes to making music, along with many other artists from many other genres. But you don't see me arguing with anyone who doesn't like him, do you? Nope. Never. Because music isn't about conflict. It's about love, and passion, and coming together and creating something beautiful. There's no need to get in someone's face because they like music that you don't like, or because they don't like music you enjoy. If you like a song or an artist, then turn it up and listen. And if you don't like it, listen to something you do like. It's THAT simple, yet not a whole lot of people seem to understand it. Stop arguing with people about musical tastes and just listen to the music.
And if you read this whole comment, thank you. I hope you learned something.
I agree with your statement entirely. People should just sit back, pop a drink, and just enjoy the music than go on the Internet and complain about it. It's not what it is made for people.
I agree with everything you wrote and honestly there are many people (mostly young girls) who are "a part of a fandom" and seem to bash every type of music that's different than their favorites.. I mean, if there's a song that I wouldn't like (as long as it's not because it's offensive or rude) then I would simply move on and listen to something I DO like instead of wasting my time trying to explain why "my taste in music is so much better than what everyone else is listening to" like many people are saying. The UA-cam commentary section is always filled with criticism, especially when it comes to music and famous artists - People always want to prove that they are right, even when there is no right or wrong..
Its the Fame Blame Game, its not fair but there has to be a balance between commercialization and respect for the artist himself. Corporate can help bring it to the masses, that's the goal. Don't be a h8tr
I just saw him at Voodoo, Im a Jazz snob, I LOVE IT and I am OLD lol
Dubstep: 140 BPM
Drumstep: 160-180 BPM
Electro: 120-130 BPM
House: Poppy at 120-130 BPM
Glitch Hop/Moombahton 100-115 BPM
Hard Dance- Distorted kick at 150-160 BPM
Drum and Bass- 1/3 beat pattern at 160-180 BPM
Trap- Below 160 BPM, Very Bassy, Simple beat
Trap and Bass- Above 160 BPM same as (Trap)
Nu Disco- Usually at 128 BPM with a "Dance Floor" feeling
Trance- Any BPM with a "calm" or "sleepy" feeling
Big Room House- 128 BPM, simple beat, lots of reverb/echo
Thats all the genres I know, I'm sure there are plenty more lol
BPM= Beats per Minute
Don't forget breaks, man
Morons and their "classifying genres by bpm". I think I'm going to go make a 80 bpm DUBSTEP song at double time. Just because, well, I can. ;)
BPMs are just the tempo the artist sees fit for the song he wants to create. If he wants to make a House song at 146 bpm, then he can, and will. The ARTIST is the one who classifies HIS music, (he wont do it by bpm), not the fans classifying his music. ^__^
First of all that's what tempo they are usually at. When is the last time you heard a house song at 146 BPM. And I'm the moron? Your just a guy behind a keyboard bro.
Antonio Canuso Your previous comment is very immature...
pexist88 Lol how so? I don't see anything immature about it. Maybe me laughing at immature morons is immature, but other than that I don't see the immaturity. DJ Javen I did not mean anything personal to YOU, my point was you CAN'T classify ANY genre under a certain range of BPM. It is not up to anyone but the artist to decide what genre his 160 or 80 bpm song goes under. Also, we are ALL just guys behind keyboards when we are on our computers, on youtube. So I don't see how your "insult" makes any sense, "Bro". I am a growing, continuously learning electronic producer. I won't say I'm as good as skrillex, I won't say I'm better than anyone, but I will say I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to the field of music.
If you want more than just my word for it when it comes to the bpm stuff, take daft punk for example. They themselves have stated that they didn't know anything about EDM. They originally thought EDM was just 1 guy who produced energy driven, but soulless music. They would say that music is all abut the soul, musicality, and the purpose behind the song. Not the rhythm, and energy. There is nothing wrong with having an energetic, rhythmic song, it just needs to have a clear purpose, and a sense of emotions and feelings put behind it. A story. Deadmau5 would even agree. Take his new album for example, he is known as one of the best in the electronic music industry, but he decided to release a 2 disc album filled with SO much musicality, emotions, soul, and a story, but STILL kept that electronic presence there.
Anyways all this comes down to one point, IT DOESN'T MATTER THE BPM, ALL THAT MATTERS IS WHAT THE ARTIST SET IT TO BE. So please don't waste your time and try to put all the sub-genres of electronic music into strict bpm ranges in your comments on youtube videos. It's a waste of time, and un-factual. Good day.
God of EDM.....and one of the greatest producers of all times....
i agree
meh he's okay
deadmau5 is better in my oppinion
Mateo Jerez edm? more like brostep
Mateo Jerez nah
Agreed strongly
fast forward to now. owning one of the most successful labels in the electronic industry, only getting more noticed, and branching out into other genres but still keeping that skrillex feel. Sonny has definitely earned my respect.
All these people who hate on him and say he has no "real musical talent" like singing and/or guitar playing should definitely watch this.
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Exactly!
Wedges He seems to have hit quite some musical achievements at the age of 26. at the time being FFTL was one of the biggest bands in their genre and now, hate him or love him, who in the electronic world has not heard of his name yet.
I'd say he definitely has musical talent.
People also don't realize how hard making music like this is. They would shit
Cool, people say, "Your adopted." Cool, so can i be like skrillex? YES
You're *
Bro dafuq what are you doing here Dylan?
I miss from first to last.
+the mad ginger they are still around. they even re-recorded 3 of their most famous songs with the new singer and they sound even better than with sonny.
+lowtuned idk ride the wings of pestilence doesn't sound right
+Pierce Black Chemical Brides the original is excellent, I mean the re-make of the song, they sing it too high
and your emo phase??
wish granted
And in 2017, the original line up of From First to Last, including Sonny, reunited and have not broken up since
LOL, are you serious? David Guetta knows jack shit... He got a guy that ghost produced all of his tracks. He is just the brand and image of that successfull name.
Man I remember seeing From First To Last at warped tour 2004 in Denver and I met him and the band, good times.
ive been following sonny SINCE from first to last and he got me into dubstep before i even knew he made dubstep. Its crazy.
jmanbgg amazing
People hate him because they are jelaous because he make awesome music and nobody make better music than him !!!!
fanboy
***** Why are you even here? O.o
HospitalMusic because i like watchmojo?
...but you don't like Skrillex.. and well this video is obviously about Skrillex. -____- nvm.. carry on.
I hate him because I like his melodies, but his drops are absolute shit and tend to ruin otherwise decent songs. They sound like Japanese Noise music, not dubstep. And also...calling yourself dubstep while having a distinct lack of wubs bothers me.
The odd thing: I used to listen to From First to Last a lot. They weren't the best emo/screamo group, but the titles were things so ridiculous in themselves that you had to pay attention. I mean, "Dear Diary, My Teen Angst Has a Body Count"? Is that not one of the best album titles ever?! If anything, it's the best musical statement that band could have made. "We're young, we're depressed, and we're violent. Deal with it."
Watching this in 2020 and I’m glad to say that Skrillex is still one of the best producers and also glad that the hate on him has cooled down
The Music he used to make and the music he makes now are both just really great!
well not the trap shit other than that its pretty good
well not the trap shit other than that its pretty good
Skrillex es el mejor \o/
Love him, hate him, who cares!
His sound is still very distinctive and hard to replicate.
His sound may be distinctive but unfortunatley his form of music cant really fit into the genre of dubstep. i mean yeah it can but it isnt how dubstep was meant to be
That's because it's brostep. People who heard his first EP thought it was dubstep and shoved him into the category. He just went along with it.
well those people who put him in the dubstep genre had no idea what Dubstep is
Exactly, but I still enjoy his music with no shame.
Eh, more or less
i was looking at tumblr and there was a drawing of him, and my 5 year old sister said "who's that girl" omg
Lol
i'm a girl, but thank you v much
Oh god lol. XD
My parents' reaction when I showed them a picture of Sonny for the first time and told them that I'm in love.
Haha lol
I don't really like the music he does nowadays but I love the fact he was leadsinger of From First to last! and that make me accept him actually!
Being a die hard Dubstep fanatic i think that Skrillex produces music that dosent really meet the circumstances in order to fall into the Dubstep genre but die hard Skrillex fans are welcome to debate. Most Skrillex fans aren't paying much attention to the Dubstep community there for Skrillex fans dont know what the true meaning of Dubstep is. But i am just a die hard Dubstep fan
Yes, Skrillex isn't really dubstep but that's not a bad thing.
Also, It's a bit silly saying Skrillex fans don't know the true meaning of dubstep or that they don't pay attention to the dubstep community cause I know what dubstep is, I produce it.
Wow my rolemodel lol. Weird Its my second year in high school and I already wanna produce music
Well woozworld9 you either need new friends or your just not someone who lives in the mainstream, like me I like to live on the Alternative side of life
Ew who likes reading, unless you do then I like reading
Lol your like a long lost sister. Unless your a guy then ah, awkward
I'm happy to say that I've experienced watching his transition throughout the years in person.
"Skrillex is a force to be reckoned with." More like Skrillex is a jedi w/ the force.
I I still can't believe I watch this in 2012.... wow
I'm pretty sure skrillex also released his 'ghost' album as skrillex before his 'my name is skrillex EP'.
No, he released gyspyhook and almost released Bells EP under Sonny but canceled it last minute
Artists who my favorite electronic music musician, Skrillex is influenced by:
- Aphex Twin
- The Chemical Brothers
- Daft Punk (biggest influence)
- Darude
- Deadmau5
- The Doors
- Fatboy Slim
- Justice
- Marilyn Manson
- Nine Inch Nails
- The Prodigy
- Squarepusher
We want Sonny Moore back. From First To Last forever
No, I want the old skrillex from 2007 - 2013!!
I want no Skrillex
I did a music project on Skrillex and used the info from this video for a little help and got an A+ thanks Watch Mojo
he's also a fuckload better than Deadmau5 or Guetta LOL
+Nick Medder ima agree with you on that :)
Better in what way?
+gammelgamer well deadmou5 is really repetitive in his style, guetta just collabs with big names to get more fame
+Nick Medder better than deadmau5 ?
You cant compare them man.
deamau5 is not to be fucked with
My first dupstep/electronica song I ever listened to was produced by this guy... Love all of his songs.
Geometry Dash community knows this legend
Yeaaah. Now i know the origins of Skrill... Im very glad and very surpeised!!
Sonny is not the most hated man he is the best guy you could ever meet and a good DJ player thats all the haters talking hater can hate that dosent stop sonny's career
For me it started when I first saw the Skrillex battle on ERB. One of my friends said "It would be cool to get his hairstyle wouldn't it?" but then I really considered Skrillex's haircut and soon got it. Then I started listening to his music, and soon began to love dubstep, especially Bangarang and Kill Everybody. Now Skrillex is one of my idols.
As of 2016: Sonny is back in From First to Last. WOOOO
why was he hated? he's a cool guy
People are honestly full of shit... Sonny is an amazing person
The underground scene hates him because everybody thinks he invented dubstep and he didn't. Also, he made only a few tunes that could be classified as dubstep, but most of his productions are electrohouse, basshouse and drumstep. Personally I like a lot of his (older) tunes but I wouldn't put it in my dubstep playlist.
I was honestly shook as hell when i found out he was in an emo band, i loved his solo music when i was younger and now i'm a From First To Last fan
Skrillex is the best dj ever
I love this man so much!
not to be all hipster about it but I've been listening to skrillex before you all even know he existed, yea I'm that cool :D
hey man.. Listening to somebody before he is famous is just a coincidence. The fact is that it doesn't really help your life in a life changing way so I don't see why it's a big deal
Sadreli M nah. you were listening to FFTL... not Skrillex. so you're safe from sounding hipsterish.
Sadreli M lol i started listening to it skrillex in 2010 cuz of the dubstep
Skrillex is the greatest producer and artist of all time. He has totally changed modern music for the better with his completely and totally unique sound and is still influencing newer generations of producers. Without his music I would never have started producing
4:05, what video is that from?
It's from a trailer for a documentary about musicians from different genres collaborating with each other...I forget what the documentary is called though, sorry
thank you! And other artist too guys! the mainstream dubstep is just the surface :)
David Guetta an industry heavyweight? Get f$%# out XD
Hmmm... You know what -- I can actually hear that in some of the older stuff! Glad you pointed that out.
i hate it when people say that skrillex invented dub step it says it right in this video when people like benga/hatcha/caspa/were inventing the sound of dub step skrillex was doing emo metal shit i dont hate skrillex i just dont like his music there are tons of better dubstep producers that will never get the coverage or respect that he gets
The true pioneers of dubstep, Bengal and skream stopped making dub step because of Skrillex's super loud Brostep variant. Thing is that's with anything music is always replaced with more popular alternatives of the genre.
I used to hate Skrillex due to everyone calling him a 'dubstep artist' when he only had one (maybe two at a push) dubstep songs at the time, but after he openly admitted he wasn't a dubstep artist I gave his music a shot and he is good at making EDM for sure
I love to be he was in emo band of that day.
i think of sonny as a musician and producer. not necessarily. i mean shoot first time i was a fan of him he was a singer in my mind. but man this guy is so multi talented. and if you haven't heard their albums with sonny you are missing out because its super sick.
.....he compares with heavyweights like david guetta.....kill me
Hahaha😂😂
He is the face of *dubstep* and without him no was abble to listen to dubstep. 💙💙💙
David Guetta is not an electronic music heavyweight...come on now
Maybe not to the electro purist...but in billboard sales and popularity his is considered a heavyweight.
Alvin Edwards
That's like saying Drake or Vanilla Ice are a rap heavyweight just based on principle, and that's not true even in the slightest.. Daft Punk are "Electro Heavyweights," Pendulum and Prodigy are "Electro Heavyweights," Jamiroquai, Chemical Brothers, etc, NOT Guetta. You have to actually put time and effort into your projects. You actually have to experiment and make tracks built out of genuine expression/originality, not just make a bunch of generic tracks that literally all sound the same aside from a few misplaced notes.
When you openly admit to "making your songs sound similar so that it's easier for DJs to mix," you negate yourself from even remotely being elegable for the title of "Electro Heavyweight." And that's not coming from an "electro purist," that's coming from someone who actually dabbles in multiple forms of self expression. Note that even though music is also a product, the pursuit of monetary consumption should never fully compromise, or interfere with the process of making an original/unique artistic piece as a whole.
OgI Kidd
I don't think Vanilla Ice is a valid example because he is a one hit wonder and actually Drake IS a heavyweight and that's not my opinion that's credible artist sources saying that. Every album he has put out has been certified platinum or at least high gold status, but back to the topic... To say David Guetta isn't a "heavyweight" just because he hasn't put that much time or isn't a veteran is nonsense.These days you don't have to have been in the music industry for 20 years in order to be considered a heavyweight nor does it have to take you very long to even make a track in order for it to be considered "creative". He has an approach to making music the way he wants and a niche that works obviously because he's selling records and that is ultimately what is all about.
However you want to look at it, music is a business and the goal is to get paid from doing it so you can continue doing it. I'm sure David Guetta has plenty artistic expression and originality in his music and i don't believe his music is compromised by him making it more playable for DJ's. Just think about that... That's actually smart music business since you need to be played and heard in order to be successful.
I understand what you are trying to say but feel its based mostly on your own opinion and not real facts. Because the fact is he's successful at making music, bottom line. I mean we are having a conversation about him right now aren't we? I'm no Electro purist either, I actually do hip hop mostly and have worked with many successful industry Artists and companies.
Soundcloud.com/risingson29
Vanilla Ice actually does count because he does in fact have other songs period besides the one. He still actually attempted to be more, even going as far as to star in his own movie in attempt to boost himself (it sucked). Drake is NOT a heavyweight by any means. First off "that's credible artist sources saying that." In what instance has any artist (specifically within the Hip-Hop world) actually been credible UNLESS they're mad? Many artists both old school and new have praised many the artist, just to shit on them later. Many times not even a week after they hyped them up. It's simply them trying to get in good with whomever so that they might be able to rake in a few pieces of change for themself down the road. Also here's a quote from an actual heavyweight on the matter of gold and platinum records: "If you go platinum, its got nothing to do with luck, it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck." In the end people will settle with whatever is hot to fit in, and then forget about them once their popularity wanes. Case and point Soulja Boy, but yes back to the topic.
Just because technology has advanced doesn't mean that the rules have changed. Yes it is definitely much easier to make music and put your shit out there. However in order to actually BE a heavyweight rather than just being "considered one" due to your current popularity, you actually DO have to put time and effort into your craft. Your versatility and skills which you enhance over years of practice and experimentation is what sets you apart from the rest that are only willing to do the bare minimum to make a pay check. It is that same hard work which has made actual veterans respected, remembered, and most importantly forces to be reckoned with for years. Even long after their respective generations' trends have since died.
Also success is a personal bar which really no outside source can actually measure. For instance I may not be The Neptunes or Juno Reactor, and may not even be selling the music I put out. But I do consider myself to be pretty successful as I'm happy with what I've done so far, and strive to do in the future. Even if just as a simple side hobby. That said, I'm not going to start calling myself a fucking heavyweight when I haven't even SEEN the surface of what it takes to actually earn such a title. Just because I have a computer and a tiny following that comes and goes, I'm not going to start swinging my dick around. Nor am I going to slap that title on someone who happens to have gotten lucky by doing the same thing (or in Drake's case someone who was basically born lucky).
Do not confuse momentary fame and notoriety founded upon constant pointless beefs (Drake), sacrificing one's musical/artistic integrity (David Guetta), and doing only what's currently trendy in the business world (Both). With long term experience, ranging appeal (beyond the lowest common denominator of entertainment), and a strong versatility of musical/artistic capabilities. Neither of them have even attempted to break their molds or branch out, and thus are not heavyweights. Yes by my opinion, but also by what past history has taught us.
OgI Kidd "founded upon constant pointless beefs"?? I think you're thinking of Chris Brown, "Drake", both the rapper and the team that comes up with his music, are amazing at what they do.
This is actually a really informative video. I had no idea Sonny had a persona in the music industry before his debut as Skrillex.
Thanks, watchmojo!
P.S: David Guetta is kinda meh
this needs an update haha
Can you please make Origins and History of Knife Party?
ahahaha heavyweight David Guetta ?. DEADMAU5 ? xD
Fuck David Guetta.
Anshul Mathur Deadmau5 is awesome. David guetta is horrible
Nayan D'Souza im on next level not into them now excision and zomboy are the best
Anshul Mathur He is definitely better than them!
1. talented
2. genuine
3. humble
4. self made
5. isn't afraid to do what he loves regardless of other people
6. sexy
He doesn't even make dubstep
***** so is dubstep
***** no its not
***** I ALREADY KNOW MY FACTS AND IT ISN'T I AM DOING A REPORT ON EDM AND I MAKE EDM SO I AM PRETTY SURE I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT
***** omg lmao
***** Do you even know what EDM stands for?
Do an update on this.
As great as I enjoy dubstep, it's still just pushing buttons on a computer...
And midi controllers keyboards and even drum pads like my maschine mikro mk2 and mastering happens with tools like ssl DAWS like ableton shit its hard work and these are my instruments just like any other artist. (:
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Pro Tools isn't a musical instrument.
Duston McCreary It may not be a physical instrument but with knowledge of music theory and preferable some experience with an instrument such as guitar or piano it can be used to make sounds that could never, ever be achieved with acoustic instruments. Plugins like Massive have a wider sound variety and customization than any piano or violin. With DAW's like Ableton, Logic Pro or Pro Tools you can make amazing music, and it isn't as simple as pushing a big button that says "Make Dubstep", I've spent upwards of 20-30 hours on some of my tunes.
I agree that dubstep is computers and not real instruments, but you do have to know how to use the computer and any other equipment like synths and drum machines. I've played piano for ten years and I could never produce the kind of sounds and music that Skrillex does.
Ever use a Roland mx_1000 it's a electronic piano not real instruments my Ass what is a maschine mk2 or a mpc renaissance just hunks of metal with pads? No an instrument Ive played alto and soprano saxophones for 7 years if my drums pads aren't instrument neither is any things else a human has to use to make music.
I still don't know why people hate on skrillz. He made his way to the top fairly and his music whether electronic or rock was awesome. shit i still blast both ride the wings of pestilence and bangarang.
Yeah, I used to listen to them last year a lot. Haven't checked them out in a while though.
Its irritating how so many people hate him because of his popularity.
To everyone talking shit in the comments section :
Whether you like his brand of electronic music or not if you think he isn't talented then you're just a trolling idiot. He succeeded in two very different genres. The kid has skills and he uses them to CREATE something new and from the heart that millions of people enjoy. Try creating something yourself instead of spewing your hate all over the internet.
i fully agree with #OceanRoses im working with Native Intruments Machine and Komplete Kontrol software and its alot harder then all you people think.
If popularity is an issue, just remember, popularity doesn't just come out of thin air, the guy is fucking good and has an insane amount of talent and creativity so respect the skrill.
I love skrillex and his music, he's concert was awesome!
this was a great video
I don't understand how someone can be hated for going mainstream.
Great video
Fuck yeah he's a real musician...and his arrangements is untouchable! And he keeps his head cool. One of the artist I look up too!
still love this video
People who think they know all about the EDM genre, listen up real quick. First off i am going to say I am a big Skrillex fan myself. But let me explain something. If you guys have a problem with skrillex, why did you watch this video? If you do not enjoy him, simply don't watch this video or don't even comment negatively towards us or skrilex or fans of skrillex. We're here to enjoy his music, not to bash him.
If you want to hear talent, search up Fytch. Kid is 17 and is an unreal producer. I'm not into Dubstep a whole ton anymore, but he is a definite ear pleaser.
So close to a 10 million subscribers
It comes from both Dub and an electronic genre called 2-Step (hence the second half of the name). I've heard some of the early Dubstep.
y'all forgot to mention how he pioneered the entire genre
I know right he's awesome Daft Punk is my idol, them and the bee gees is what my big bro and I listened to to them when we were little like 3 and 4 little.
I used to love skrillex but I moved on from hardcover dubstep and soon moved to electro,edm,complextro and nu disco
Just knew Skrillex was the lead vocal of from first to last! It is astonishing! OMGGGG!!! He is awesome in both way anyway. :)
Listen to their new album it mixes so many different genres of music so well that I would even say they're the most talented duo in music today.
Seeing him in concert on July 29th :)
I just clicked to make sure they gave fftl some recognition
this man is fucking awesome he inspired me to make my own dubstep music
Knowing this I have a lot more respect for him, it's not my type of music but I respect him as an artist.
What people simply do not get is that words meanings change overtime. Yes, dubstep was something completely different years ago from what Skrillex produces, but the appearence of new artists started to change the conception of what dubstep is itself (like Datsik), and now saying that Skrillex makes brostep instead of dubstep is just ridiculous. Is rock music the same of what it was 40 years ago? Hell no, but it's still the same name. Genres expand, and people don't seem to get that. The meaning of words gets wider with time, and starts to include more things. Since when is what Skrillex makes dubstep? Since it's known as dubstep. And it has been known as dubstep for some time now... that's how a language works. Stop sticking to the past. The concept of dubstep got wider and includes more stuff now. Get over your hipster feelings
This guy is higher than Dubstep. He moved on. If it wasn't for him, you guys wouldn't be saying he isn't respected in the dubstep genre since he made it popular. This guy is amazing
This guy is my heroe and idol
Skrillex
He isn't just the Dubstep king, he is a great person too.
He is my life and means everything to me, I can´t even describe with words how much i´m in love with him, he is perfect.
Fernanda Muñiz Jimenez Well then.
I'd love to see Skrillex bring singing/screaming, and some live instruments into his music. The blend of metal/dubstep can be amazing if done right
I make music and dubstep is legit the hardest thing to make. This is why I give Sonny so much props.
Skrillex was LABELED as a dubstep mainstream artist due to his hit EP's and tracks. He's an amazing producer. He also has an amazing voice. :3
Don't ever hate on skrillex or any artist period for them doing what they love. They've got talent and have a great sound, which is the reason they're big. I don't like excision, borgore, or bassnectar but I don't hate on them for what they do. They all have different styles, and it's not cool to hate on someone for having a different style.
Please do a biography of Jamiroquai!
I never stopped liking Skrillex. Why does he get all the hate? I know dubstep was around long before him, but you gotta hand it to him, he did help put it on the map.
In my opinion no one express dubstep at that perfection like Skrillex.
I dont understand why people hate on skrillex while he is a talented dubstep producer,most of the people hating dont understand the meaning of the word work and ambition.Dubstep is realy hard to make and skrillex is making onle hits.