My new FAVORITE way to practice quintuplets
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2020
- In this video, I share my favorite new technique to work on quintuplet vocabulary & coordination. All you need is a drum book with a variety of 16th note rhythms (I recommend Gary Chester's "The New Breed").
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I don’t even play drums, I just love tuplet syncopation.
lol are you a bassist
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I am now convinced that Shawn Crowder is a machine impersonating as a human drummer.
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naw man he just practiced a lot and has some natural aptitude to lean on as well
Oh, so you discovered our Balkan rhytms, very happy to hear this. We have some rich traditions of the beats and rhythms so please explore more. I urge you to listen to the Macedonian band Anastasia but live, and Mizar, also if you like jazzy impro you can check Vasil Hadzimanov. Enjoy, looking forward to seeing you play these rhythms/beats. Greetings from Montenegro!
next up: undecuplets and nonuplets
This is so different from how everyone else is talking about practicing quintuplets, but it's such a musical approach. Thanks so much for this lesson Shawn!
As an intermediate pianist, I am definitely going to try this with my sight reading as I can't find a book on tuplets.
I like to think that Shawn films these videos in his own realm or his own pocket dimension, hence the black background. There he is undisturbed from the mortal world and practices for infinite amounts of time.
I've been experimenting with non-dyadic / "irrational" time signatures. That is, when instead of diving a whole-note by multiples of 2 in order to get the denominator of the time signature, you divide it by multiples of 3, 5, 7 etc., resulting in time signatures such as 4/6, 5/10 and so on... it's basically a way to notate metrical modulations more elegantly, and to write down things that would be very difficult to write in traditional notation, like playing 4 or 5 eight-note triplets instead of 3... you could notate a 5 eight-note triplet fill in a 5/12 measure, for example. Back in the day you would probably just write "eight-note = eight-note triplet" at the beginning of the measure and write it in 5/8... that's how Stockhausen did it. Nowadays composers like Ferneyhough and Adès have been using non-dyadic time signatures to achieve the same effects. It's also a cleaner way to write nested tuplets, because any tuplet in the context of a non-dyadic time signature is already a nested tuplet. Anyway, while I find this very interesting from the compositional stand point, it's pretty difficult to perform accurately... If you are playing, like you are in this video, with the subdivision of each pulse in quintuplets and with 4 pulses per measure (I would notate that as a 4/20 measure), you would sort of have to count very fast to 5 and in top of that count to 4...
Paulo Adam Neely did some vids on this stuff, he even did a 4/20 time signature one but I don’t think it was in the same way you’re talking about.
This was another REALLY COOL lesson as I LOVE the New Breed….What a great interpretation of Gary’s material! Like I said, VERY COOL!🙏🏻🥁
Shawn, you're actually insane at tuplets. I love the sounds you can create with them.
Great video. You've helped me a lot developing as a drummer. Btw love Sungazer. Do you play in other bands/projects?'
when I saw you talking about A New Breed and quintuplets in the same video I had a real "this video is speaking to me" moment.
Best tuplet tip ever!
Amazing tip, clever! Thank you
Love your drum sound aswell as your lessons!!! Much love from Australia 🇦🇺
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Great tips!
Great Idea & lesson..thank you..👍👍
been really getting into tuplets lately and maaaaaan it's so fun
Thank you!
Great ideas!👊🏼
Thanks man! I've been trying to play and jam in quintuplets for the past few months and this exercise is gonna help me out!!
This is beautiful
Wow it's a nice idea
Awesome. I'm going to try to implement this on the bass. These days I'm practicing Latin rhythms (so mostly 8th notes, sometimes 16ths) and playing around with 5, 7 and 11-tuplet swings to sharpen my interstitial awareness and hit that sweet spot.
Love your video btw! Sleek, interesting and always straight to the point. :)
great video bro
Honestly I barely play drums any more, but this definitely made me think about how I could use this for compositional fodder
Thank you for sharing this! I am a pro cellist and bassist that has always played a little drums but with all my gigs cancelled I decided to go full-bore and actually learn kit. Thank you for influencing me to learn how to play open-handed and for introducing me to New Breed -- it has helped me especially with integrating both feet in different ways.
I notice that many western musicians interpret 5/8 as 3 + 2, but I find it interesting that in countries where folk music in this rhythm exists, it is played, felt, and danced as 2 + 3. Look up pajdusko or pajdushko if you have a chance! Definitely has a groove and feel that takes some getting used to but it's really fun :]
Anyway, thank you again and as always I will be looking forward to your next video!
Trilok Gurtu is so good at these. Great patterns
Man this has to take so many hours of practice! Keep it funky
"The next set of reading exercises gets a little more complicated"
Wait that was the easy part?
Don’t get me wrong you’re great at teaching this shit is just way over my head. I’ll be back next year 😂
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When? I’m hungry
@Shawn Crowder:
Are you actually switching
to playing open handed/lefty ?
Nah, some open handed, but not fully lefty. This was filmed a while ago before I switched the drums back.
Carter McLean's Kaleidoscope (from his new book) will be a hoot to try this with! Also both of Louis Bellson's reading books.
New breed is amazing...
Last time I was this early I got kicked out of the band
Great tips! As always awesome playing, quick question, what snare head are you using? It sounds really good!
thanks! pretty sure it was an Evans ST Dry.
I wrote a beat not to long ago doing this but I was thinking of it as a polyrhythm tho like my hihat was playing in 5/8 and my snare and kick were in 4/4
Hey Shawn, what other quintuplet based ostinatos do you find to be useful? Pretty much any time I'm playing in quintuplets it's based around the first and fourth partial in one way or another.
I'm not a drummer but I really found all of this useful. Could I just recommend a mic specifically for your voice when you talk? Sometimes your drums get louder than you. Cheers!
6:23 that's me failing to play along to psychosocial
Best post
The last one sounds a bit like Louis Cole groove imo
Thank you nice video!
What are your thoughts on Zach Hill from Death Grips?
Amazing video. Now septuplets? 👀
what sticks are you using in this video
just realized the kit was lefty the whole time
I'm watching this like a dog watching a game of chess
How would you advice intermediate drummers to get started on open-handed drumming?
Dude honestly just start doing it and it'll come to you. Start with slow simple grooves until you get used to it and gradually increase the intensity
Ramen Fever thx
Check out Claus Hessler's book, Open Handed Playing Vol. 1
Great introduction with a lot of exercises and instruction to develop open handed playing.
How do you think about playing 10 tuplets or 12 tuplets? With 7s and 9s I just add one to 8 or 6, but I’m having trouble breaking down these higher even ones. E.g. 8 is just 4 doubled, 6 is triplet eighth notes, but what’s 10?
Watching this thinking its cool and hard, then I realised you were doing the whole thing lefty. WHUT
i still dont know how to divide quintuplets can you give some "tips" to sub divide it for fast tempo quintuplets
say
"fucking difficult"
at a consistent rate
also works with septuplets
"very fucking difficult"
@@dylanchope8992 lmao very clever
Not a drummer, but I found tapping my fingers on my leg useful, because you can do it anywhere and any time. So for quintuplets I tap from thumb to pinky and for septuplets I tap thumb to ring finger, then thumb to middle finger. Also listening to tuplet music and tapping along is helpful.
i like saying the phrase "ta ki ta ki tu" to count/divide quintuplets, since it can be sped up fairly fast while still symbolizing beats throughout a quintuplet. if my memory is correct i actually picked that up from an Adam Neely video.
The word"Hippopotamus" works great, any five syllable word can help you develop the feel for a quintuplet, just set your metronome to a comfortable speed and try to make it fit!
damnnn that snare. What is it?
Pearl Masters MMX. One of my faves :)
this guy is obviously a math genius on the level of Einstein and I'm not
What’s ur hand playing omg
I mean the quintuplet hi hate
Is it 1 34 of the 12345
what?