How to play 21 against 22
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2019
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Learn how to play 21 against 22 (or any polyrhythm). It's not only possible, but it's not as difficult as you might think. In this video, we look at a few ways to play polyrhythms -- including Jacob Collier's famous 21:22 -- as well as some musical applications and benefits of practicing these rhythms.
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Looks like Adam Neely and I had the same idea this week. I shot this last weekend before seeing his video. Editing/graphics/gummies took forever, so just uploading now. But funny to see similarities & differences, almost down to the same jokes... I guess playing in bands together for 10 years will do that. Enjoy this drummer's perspective on the subject!
Best UA-cam couple
You even use the same fonts
Honestly, I love Adams videos but this was a really really excellent video and more that just complimenting Adam's it gave a really good insight into the topic
Yall got the same profile picture and edit your videos the same way. I'm on to you sungazer punks. This isn't a coincidence it's a gosh darn dang sundangledgazer conspiracy. You boys are in cahoots and the general public knows it.
You two make a great tuplet :)
damn dude. this is so good!
EDIT: to people saying that our UA-cam videos are similar...its almost as if we lived together for 5 years and have played together for over a decade.
I've learned a lot from Shawn, and gleefully steal from him at every opportunity I can.
Sorry, Adam. I’m leaving you for your bandmate💔
Sawyer Smith his drumming and UA-cam game is too strong.
Don’t worry, I’ll still come back for occasional late night flings with your videos
Better than yours no offense
Alessandro Cavallaro Alright lets take a step back now
Content: 10/10
Explanation: 10/10
Skills: 10/10
Notes: 21/22
Nice joke
More like 22/21.
And a Ben levin and justice cow
Well done man, you made me laugh out loud alone in front of my computer, which very rarely happens! :D
I can't wait for Sungazer Vol 3 with its 99:100 polyrhythm and Ben Levin M&M solo
I need a Ben Levin M&M composition now.
Would you care for a budget version
The timing of the upload just looks like you saw a bassist talk about rhythm and went "Oh, that's adorable".
Nyuu3 I laughed for too long at this
Anki Be nice. Bassists are people too.
OMG. best comment. :)
Bob o'Brien no we’re not!
im a bassist myself and i find this funny
99 against 100 sounds like my begginer drummer friend trying to play fast singles
I don't even play drums but once i played 24 against 79.
I was drunk also.
How about that?
asmo deus proof?
Since we've re-classified this type of playing as advanced polyrhythms, your friend is a virtuoso now!
Here are a few video ideas for you
1. Metric modulation
2.Rhythmic displacements
3.Tuplet based swings
4.Microrhythms
5.Indian rhythmic compositions(Tihaia , Korvais etc)
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And when you bend the pitch, but adjust the tempo in the other direction.
@@noslowerdna Metal does this quite often. The pitch bends down, the tempo speeds up.
I was so ready for this to be an Adam Neely rip and I’m so glad it’s not. Excellent video - currently living the percussionist’s wet dream of two different polyrhythm videos in one week
That groove on the ride is perfect for Sungazer
Aidan Xavier actually waiting a song with that beat
Agree. Without hearing the keyboard phrases which inspired the ride polyrhythm, you can see it feels not at all forced or odd, but an added subtle texture on the drum. Not in your face solo. Not filigree (great work). I would use the term texture to describe the new option on the rhythmic palette of the piece. I may seek out the full track at some point, but I get the idea.
The third way to conceptualize 21:22 (and the ending 99:100 especially) sounds a lot like phasing
yep! it's basically the same thing.
Came here to say this. On a big enough scale, you're basically Steve Reich'ing it... 😁
Since this is an adam neely for drums kind of channel, you need some audio tags saying ... "Drums!" at the end.
More like "Drum!", since "BASS!" is mainly a call to act
*BEATS!*
"DONK"
A vocoded snare drum.
I think "Go music!" is already perfect.
I rate this 99/100
or 100/99?
YES to Shawn Crowder making this kind of content!
This is an amazing video, thank you and excellent work!
Your video was what helped me (a non musician/amateur singer) manage to do a 3:4 polyrhythm with finger snapping hahaha thank you, your channel is really cool!
Ben Levin is basically clickbait you shoulda put him in the thumbnail
So whenever my unison strokes become sloppy and turn into a single stroke roll I need to practice more but whenever Jacob Collier does it its musical genius...
The groove you came up with (@9:40) is great! Very musical. 👍
Agree completely. It's basically a much more complex drunk/Dilla beat. (I think I spelled "Dilla" right.) I also really liked the ostinato he did, too.
Also, when I liked your comment it went from 21 to 22. That was too perfect
I actually really enjoy you aping Adam's style and giving it your own subtle spin. Very nice continuity between the two channels.
It was accidental. He said he shot the video last weekend before he saw Adam's.
@@BigDaddyWes Serendipitous, then. They should still continue it.
Child custody ended with Adam Neely
Now Shawn Crowder is my UA-cam dad
What I love about your teaching is that you teach in concepts rather than just teaching directly about something. I think that’s what sets you apart so much from other educators.
Interesting approach for polyrhytms, I have been multiplying the factors, then hitting on them until I reach the product. Once i get a feel for the rhythm , i can increase the speed.
I absolutely love your videos.
You do a really great job of showing the actual process of learning music.
I think the 21 22 grooves you played were fucking awesome. Seriously. I want this shit in music. Like actual songs I can listen to.
Love your content and drumming so much, Shawn! You're a huge inspiration to me!
that's a really good video!! musically speaking, but also entertaining, well produced, well explained. congrats!!!
1 minute in and I already love this video style. You earned a sub!
Shawn. You're absolutely fantastic. Talk about a killer video with fantastic production from a good dude. Now I need to check out more of your stuff.
If you choose to become active on this platform with content like this, you'll go FLYING.
Ever since i found out about Sungazer i cant stop listening. You are truly an awesome inspiration to practice my techniques and get my chops up!
I'm sensing a trend here.
I was going to say that people need stop making videos on this but then I realized how valuable each unique perspective is and how it only really helps me gain a better understanding of the concepts to see everybody’s take on it. Good stuff man.
The way you presented with candy and the drum sticks was quite brilliant. Very well done.
I love how you explain these cool rhythmic ideas!! Very cool video!!👍👍👍
this is amazing. your effort and production value should earn you well over a million subs! how you're at 10k is beyond me. awesome job, liked and subscribed
poly metrics and polyrhythmics are 2 different things. many people can play straight metrics against eachother. not many can play actual involved rhythms against eachother without alot of practice. great vid!
Great video shawn. Thank you for making this awesome video.
Missed an opportunity by not making the video 21:22 long
I still subbed though
Great vid Shawn! You can really see you and Adam influence eachother in terms of editing and explaining.
Well-explained, excellently produced, informative, non-pretentious video! You have gained a subscriber and fan! Cheers from Savannah! 👍👍🍻
I must do a comment! For 2 reasons first of course you did a perfect balance video between emphaty and teaching and secondly by consequence you won a new subscriber. Hope as soon as possible that your channel raise fast!
Thanks!
so cool that both adam and you talk about this stuff, so I can understand sungazer's songs
this video is GREAT thank you ♥ especially becouse i've been looking into this theme A LOT this last couple of months
I love that kind of content! I really enjoy the hard work you put into those videos! It would be awesome if you would keep on doing those.
i think it's important to mention the guy from mexico city playing 7 against 11 at 7:11 on 7/11 outside a 7-11
Well explained, and a solid example of balancing music with music theory
I’ve been trying to get a better grip on timing as a basic guitarist. Never cared much for most of my 68 years. Your awesome videos was like an epiphany to me. Thank you. Btw, loved Zappa when I first heard him in the 70s. Wish he was still with us but his music, black pages and all, always will be.
He still is, hologram concerts and unreleased demos are keeping his dream alive
wow, very interesting approach, thank you shawn.
This channel needs more subscribers. So many more
....that accent ride shit is so easy to think of, but absolutely killer to watch you execute it. Wonderful vid, my friend.
Welp, I saw the thumbnail, saw the channel picture, then clicked. I was curious, as I knew Adam’s channel well (been following for years). I then saw the Sungazer link in the desc and realized you were his bandmate! Then, Adam’s comment cleared it up further. I’m so glad I clicked, because now I get my music theory fill twice as much now, with content just as good!
Well done Shawn! You gained a new sub, this video was fantastic!
...stumbled upon this...couldn't subscribe to Shawn's channel fast enough... brain bomb material...so kindly broken down... epic Mike Mangini photage!
Amazing Video Shawn, keep it up!!
This is awesome, I'd love to see more of this kind of content
You are freaking great man. Thank you for the videos.
You don't need to make an Adam Neely for drums channel. You're rocking your own thing and I hope you keep it up.
Dude this was fantastic. It's given me a much better appreciation of how complex rhythm can be. I'm feeling pretty inspired right now.
Also, the quality of your videos is on-point.
Man if you like this listen to some tool. If you're not into that kind of music give it a listen anyway, because the drummer is known for putting complex polyrythyms and syncopation that still sound organic and natural.
Try with Triad
@@asmodeus9075 I've been an avid Tool fan for years. They're pretty amazing.
Great video. During your play of the 21 against 22 I could hear a big ole trombone or something brassy kinda like that blasting thru. yeah daddiooo.
Your first video I've ever seen, great job man, damn, i love your music too!
This is fantastic, thank you for this
You are awesome! Thank for this amazing video! It helped me a lot.
See Shawn Crowder teaching Shawn Crowder = Instant subscribe
This is brilliant! I love it. Good stuff, and I'll have to check out your channel in the future
Really nice video! Keep up the good work! :)
Really cool video, Shawn. Subbed.
I love the red dot next to Rec is blinking in time
nice to see a drummers view on this... its cool to see the drummer and bassist give differne vies on this!
your 21/22 rhythm in the 9min is actually awesome
I love your drumming, especially in Electro. Cheers!
The editing on this is glorious !
Great video! I learned a lot
This was awesome!
That beat around the ten minute mark sounded more musical with the click, and actually provided a context, rather than just sounding like awkward flams or something.
This is amazing, this guy needs like 1 more million subs
Holy shit Shawn I'm freaking out. This is so cool and has my heart doing polyrhythms out of sheer excitement. Thank you so much, I love this kind of thorough explanation. Thank you. Thank you.
That first musical example is a phat beat! Super nice!
It's cool seeing videos like this crop up.....I was experimenting with similar concepts over a decade ago. Even compiled a long list of one-level nested tuplets. I think there is a strong future in music with "fragmented" durations, but as always there will have to be commonly used tropes (cliches) to become culturally significant on a larger scale
Oh man this is so good. That last version of 21:22 was right on the edge of my rhythmic comprehension, like I could tell there was a groove but couldn't quite feel it.
this video just remind me of left turn lane when there are 1 or 2 cars ahead of me and had their signal light on, but due to turn on at a slightly off time and each car model probably flicker at different rate so it looks like they are going in and out of phase. and 2 cars plus mine is in triplet form lol,
sometimes I thought of it as two metronome playing at different bpm
Bro I've been in love with Adam Neely for years but this is the first video of yours I've ever seen and I'm fuckin converted.
Love it
This video is actually really accessible and informational for something that seems pretty high faluting. I'm a dumb guitar player and I learned a lot.
Hey Shawn--awesome! Composite rhythm is where it's at!
Holy shitbags. You're killing it. Great demo! Sounds so cool. Thank you. Steve.
Nice stuff man. I'd love to hear about your practice routine, as a drummer whos into similar stuff as you but not at your level yet obviously. Stuff like what you do to keep your hands in shape, coordination stuff, and bass drum technique, drummers to transcribe. Okay I guess ill go practice now
i love the style of the video!
Holy FUCK, that slower drum beat you came up with towards end is so sick. Subscribed and swoon.
I'm trying to learn the guitar, what on earth am I doing here?
Getting in way over your head xD
As a small icon, you look like Chris Pratt
but the beginning seemed so slow and frustrating
Lawrence Rhodes hahaha man does
It'll help keep you grounded.
Pretty cool video! Cheerz :)
For me the best way of doing polyrhythms is by spreading them across multiple instruments, each playing different subdivisions, and drums being the instrument which merges these clashing parts together
Now this was INTENSE
I watched this video up to the moment you said about sungazer, noticed you're in a band with Adam and was like dayuuum goood n subscribed instantly
you guys are freaking me out
Love it ❤️ thank you
Thank you Thank you Thank you very much for learning!!
that first example where you filled the gaps with 16th note double kicks. It's ideal for a prog deathcore outro in a breakdown form.
God damn man! 😀 Just the sheer effort of playing all of this 😂😂😂 mad props! 🙌
Good job!👍🏼
I was going to suggest playing whatever ratio your like to dislike was but it's honestly too much at this point. loved this!
Loved the ostinato example
More like this please!
Hello I’m your friendly neighborhood saxophone player! I’ve been watching Adam Neely for a while now and now I’m subbed to you (whether or not you make an AN but drums channel). Keep up the good work and keep inspiring younger musicians!
This wankery is going so far that the music genre that will spawn in response will be in 1 : 1
I think there are some types of eletronic music which uses that. Like hardcore.
@@asmodeus9075 dang no ! you are unfair^^ hardcore is not that simple, just listen to Sick Of it All or Counterparts
@@asmodeus9075 ohh sorry I just learnt there is a electronic genre also called hardcore !! that's weird
@@erbihc1781 i mean, its not alwaya technically 1:1 but sometimes it gives me that feel.
Even our heartbeats are more complicate than that XD
Also talking about wankery vs minimalism. There is a composer that has a piece that consists of silence. He just sits there in silence for some time.
It may sound stupid but as an idea it is extremely powerful.
Just like everything. A dance between sound and silence, light and darkness, existance and non-existance.
I love to talk about these things expecially on psychedelics lol