Thank you for actually doing some tests on this device rather than most of the other 'reviews' where they just read off the manufacturers specifications. Very useful.
Yep this almost bit me in the ass. I just cancelled my order. It seems all of the reviewers are failing to mention/emphasize this significant shortcoming. 😡
I bought this unit for $600 from Amazon. The best purchase I’ve ever done. For the price this is one of the best power stations I’ve ever had the fast charge is an absolute lifesaver in an emergency. Love your review
Just bought this unit for my shed setup. Ebay off the VTOMAN store + Black Friday sale was $1119AUD or $734USD Again thanks for all your amazing reviews as without em' I and many other would be simply left wondering. Cheers.
I purchase this unit based off your recommendation. Two things I wish you would've mentioned, is that it trips a ground fault outlet and... if you leave it plugged in charging after it is fully charged, it is always drawing 80 W with all the orange buttons turned off, and no draw.
@@scottmurphy4946 I checked this, it does have a parasitic drain of about 72 w when fully charged with no draw and 65 W while charging and draining. The UPS I think is a top-of-the-line UPS. It is charging the battery, then all power is being drawn from the battery. I also found when I turned off the breaker and back fed through a GFI it tripped. Since you have 2 kill a watt testers, put one before the unit charging and put one on one of the outlets and put a 200 W load for one hour. This would be a worthy demonstration for a lot of guys using this for UPS computers and security systems. I would love to see the video. You could try a kill-o-watt meter in your wall outlet feeding this unit, then put another kiil-o-watt meter feeding a fridge from the AC output of this unit. Maybe test it for a 24 hour period.
How long did you leave it after it started saying 80 watts? Sounds like the cells are only pulling ~0.05C (80/1500) - that 80 watts must be going somewhere. I'd leave it for another 24 hours and say what it says then. This will let it top-balance the cells. Does it tell you its battery voltage? (To be certain that it's not holding it at a silly high voltage.)
Nice review:) Lot's of competition now in this price range, which is very good for the consumer. VTOMAN and Pecron give you the 1.5KW battery, which is 50% more than the venerable Delta 2 and about 30% higher than the AC180. Having an app is a nice extra that VTOMAN has yet to offer, but having the ability to jump start your car is really much better than an app!
@@billtuttle7855 And with the AC180 going for as little as $548 during Bluetti's online promotions, game, set, and match goes back to the Bluetti court!
How the hell do you jump start a car while trying to balance such a large box with what seems like cables not even long enough to reach beow the unit, let along to where a battery may be hidden ?
Solar Panel Question - The specs says input voltage of (Anderson Input) 30V-60V at 400W and (DC Input) at 12V-20V 200W. I am new to power stations and solar panels and I watched your solar panel review video. I'm still learning and confused so perhaps a simple questions 1. What economical solar panel or panels do you recommend. I have a much better understanding after watching your videos but sometimes is easier to just ask questions :-) Thanks
I'm using 2 100w panels wired in series to get 36v nominal output (in full sun usually kicks out around 50v). It's hard to find panels that will put out more than 30v so you will likely have to build your own (or buy the folding panel from VTOMan). One note: I have two of these units and NEITHER will charge reliably on solar - they will work fine for weeks and then just decide to stop charging. I have not been able to determine a cause of this.
Thanks for reviewing this! I just bought the Vtoman jump 1800 last week. They have the same 1548 KWh rating but I’m thinking about returning it to buy this one instead. It’s only $50 more with the current discount. I like the fast charging and flat top features. I was just worried about the flash speed series as it was brand new and didn’t have many reviews. Would you recommend this over the jump 1800?
I gotta tell ya, I’m absolutely loving the VTOMAN brand! I’ve got my hands on this awesome X1 jump starter with air compressor, and let me tell you, it’s the real deal! This thing is a beast and a total game-changer. When it comes to starting up my engine or dealing with a flat tire, the VTOMAN X1 has got my back, no doubt about it.
I just ordered this from Amazon with $450 off coupon. I added the 4 year insurance just incase anything goes wrong but it looks like a solid unit from my research. Thanks for the review.
@@scottgilliamprettysureihea3757 it's currently $300 off $999 with coupon on Amazon. Mine currently doesn't work. Doesn't charge. Vtoman is asking that I send them a video of it, not working.
Check Eric Hernandez's review of the extended-battery issue. That REALLY needs some attention from the "Nearly-Perfect" unit. Also, will this unit recharge from a standard non-inverted generator (aka "rough-power")?.
One of the primary things i look for with a large battery unit like this is the ability to turn itself and load circuits back on after a complete power outage, the ability to use solar and AC at the same time, and when the sun is out to prioritize the use of solar.
So, I'm not leaving because of you. Love you're content! I am buying Pecron products because of your views. Excellent stuff dude! UA-cam is the reason I'm leaving. Wish you all the best!
Looks like they listened and got rid of the stationary handle too. Very nice, and a great review as well. Anyone in the market needs to see these reviews to make a decision.
Nice review. Definite upgrade from the jump series. I own one of the jump series power station. Only issue with review is the AC surge check. The portable AC unit you used is probably has a invertor system without a motor surge. Wonder how it would deal with AC with a startup motor surge.
So, if i get this correct, this generator can charge via solar and car charger at the same time. That could come in handy. Especially if using a 12v to 24v relay.
Hi, great information thanks, one question though if I may, I’ve seen a review online where someone said “Many Watts but limited surge capacity for starting inductive loads like refrigerators and microwaves without being damaged over time. This uses a low surge high frequency inverter”… can you comment on that please?
I'm so jealous of anyone who buys this. I have the 1000 and 1500 jump and will have to wait for the new 600 flash. Should I wait for the new extra battery or buy the jump extra battery?
As usual, great review! Love the upgrades and they were much needed to stay viable in this segment, good looking unit at well. Checks most of the boxes for my needs. Definitely on the consideration list, thanks again.
I noticed this power station didn't have a digital read out for the time left like the other vtoman power station wonder why they didn't add that feature
Not only this specific unit but how do you go about protecting any power station unit while solar charging outside? In case of a sudden rain shower or something? I assume keeping it covered with a plastic bag or something isn't recommended. I am sure user should not cover the ventilation cut outs on the unit for many reasons?
Excellent review, thanks! I got the original jump 1500 after my research mostly thanks to your review, and I'll be darned if I don't want to get this one though as well! Maybe my old one can take the place of the extra battery 😅 or as the fast charge AC *drains dead in one hour* If VTOMAN had a buyback or trade-in, I'd be expecting an Amazon delivery already. Sadly, budget can't take it for a while. Cheers!
Turns out that I *do* have one now, and didn't have to give my old one up. I won their IG contest and received it in under a week 😊 Now I'm hunting for affordable portable solar options 😅
Its funny that they are all adopting the Oukitel form factor, complete with handles and cable storage compartment. The layout of the plugs is a bit different, and the internals are clearly going to be different. But the form factor is clearly copied from Oukitel's P2001. The voltages look similar too, As with other power stations, the charging and regulation circuitry is not really all that efficient. All of these vendors are still cheaping out on design quality. It would be nice to test the USB-C discharge efficiency to see if it is any better. Those tend to use dedicated support chips for voltage regulation which are usually around 90% efficient. Note that the "watt" display is likely completely wrong when you are charging and discharging at the same time. All of these power stations copied the same broken design and the readings all go wonky when doing that, across many models and vendors. You need to put a kill-a-watt on both the input and output. Final item... note that kill-a-watt's and similar devices generally can't handle continuous power anywhere near what they say they can handle on the label. It might seem odd since it just goes through a shunt, but the problem is that the contacts on the kill-a-watt socket tend to not be well-plated (or plated at all) and tend to corrode and oxidize over time. The result is excessive heat due to poor contact area and the plastic starts to melt around the socket. So watch for that.
I’ve watched many videos and have narrowed down to flash 1500, cube 1000 and c1000. I really like the vtoman but it seems they only have a 2year warranty. That’s a real bummer.because of that the Anker seems to be the next best with five year warranty. I’d love to hear your personal opinion and maybe there is another unit I need to be thinking about. I like have more dc options and 1500 watts and my plan is a couple 265 watt panels. Thanx for any input you may have. Thanx for your reviews.
Amazing review. But, I don't believe there is pass through Power via AC to AC. I do believe that the battery is continuously charged, and the pure AC sin wave is always being pulled from the battery. A good test for this would be plug-in the charging cord and run 1800 W to see if the voltage drops. My bet is that it does. Next, it would be really nice if you took the VTOMAN 1800 and charged this new one through the AC pure sine wave. This would give me 600 W charging with a previously purchased item. This could be a game changer.
Use one of those plug-in meters to see the maximum amps it pulls. This station can probably deliver ~12.5 amps (1500/120.) It might be able to stretch it a bit my lowering the voltage, but that's assuming that the load will pull less current when the voltage is lowered. I guess a fog machine is basically a heater and will be fine.
Thank you for such great information! I ordered this and a BougeRV flex panel (for my camper) from watching your vids. While I was at BougeRV website I saw their 400w rigid solar panel and remembered you said the VTOMAN FlashSpeed 1500 accepted 400w solar, so my question is will the BRV 400w work with my VTOMAN FP1500? If so I'm going to order and will be glad to use a code from you.Thanks!
You should see if you could acquire an Anker Solix C1000 to perform a capacity test. This is easily one of the most purchased power stations on the market, however not a single UA-cam video showing a capacity test. Also of all the power stations of 2023 which is the best for each category, ie. 1000WH, 1500WH, 2000WH units?
I've had one of the these and find that when it's charging (currently only via a cigarette lighter), the amount of watts coming in reduces the higher the load. For example, if a my appliances are drawing 111 watts, as they are now, I'm only getting 13 watts in via the lighter socket. I've contacted Vtoman who have requested photos. I'm now waiting for a reply.
Wonder if the super ac fast charging affects the battery making it last less, great video gonna buy it just arrived at my country been waiting 2 months almost bought the vtoman 1000 but rather get this one. Love your vids very well done👍
Also, what's the power factor of the charger? Eg. if you've got a "2000 watt generator" it might overload the generator, as a lot of chargers have a PF of ~0.65 so 1500/0.65=2307VA which would overload a typical 2KVA generator.
I've done some tests myself which may prove useful to someone. A 1kw heater ran for 76mins and used 1.33kw till flat However a TV at between 60-100w ran for 13 hours but only used .8kw before flat. So I assume these are very inefficient when ran for long time periods with a small watt draw. I didn't realise this.
Great review... thanks! Say, you mentioned that Vtoman has "apparently" resolved the problems we smaller-sized "Jumpers" have been living with involving a very restrictive 100w or, for some, a 200w solar input max. Can you please explain where you were going with that? Thanks.
I think where I was going with that was simply that if you needed more robust solar charging, VTOMAN didn't really have a viable solution since their entire Jump line was relegated to only 200W or less. But with the FlashSpeed series, that limitation has been 'resolved' in that they DO now have a solution with more robust solar input capacity (not that they've resolved the limitation in the Jump series).
Video idea solar charge controllers that have low temp protection so we can use budget lifepo4 batteries, any victron smart SCC + smart battery sense $30 epever AN series 10amp-40amp possibly others in the AN series you have to use a PC and there rs485 usb cable to enable it though from what ive read HSQ 60amp SCC
Hi. I have a question about vtoman jump 1500 and I have 220w solars that came in the deal with them,but when it's a bit bright the station will light up the numbers will flash, well 1 of them but watts stay at zero. I have it on the balcony,at the moment sun is not high enough yet in UK. But...I thought that it will show some watts. It has charged 3%,which I didn't see because I was at work but it was showing after few hours. Well that would be quite horrible if it would have to charge 30 days for nearly full charge. Have you used yours on a cloudy day and what did it do?
Got another question for you... would it be possible to use the Alphaess SP300 (300watt) and a THUNDERBOLT SOLAR 100 Watt Solar Panel Briefcase (Harbor Freight) for the 400 watt input?
@ReeWray Outdoors keep in mind i have seen other reviews where if the battery is at 100% the ups feature takes much longer to switch over/turn the inverter on. Can you confirm?
Greetings. I’m thinking about a couple 265 watt panels but I do not yet have output voltage for the panels. Am I understanding correctly the output needs to be a minimum of 30volts to function with the flash speed 1500?
👌 I just wish the add-on batteries were more reasonable.. Right now they're MORE than the core device Edit... Turns out that the batteries showing online are NOT the add-on battery for this unit, see my new post
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsbtw... Based on your other videos I've also purchased the pecron E600LFP I've had that for about 3 months and I'm quite happy with it..
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsWord of warning with the fashspeed 1500 I bought it because it has expandable batteries as shown on their website and in their documentation... THEY DO NOT EXIST and they don't know when they will So now have one of these, that do not do what I want due to VTOMAN's FALSE ADVERTISING and to send it back I have to pay for shipping
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsoverall their customer service has been atrocious and I've had to submit a complaint via the California State false advertising process
I bought this unit. I also bought the DOKIO 2PCS 220W 18V Portable Solar Panel 400 Watt Solar Panel Kit Folding with 2 USB Outputs for 12v Batteries/Power Station AGM LiFePo4 . will this work on this powerstation. also the wires that come off the solar unit is one unit so no positive and separate negative. So how do I hook these up in series if indeed this unit will work at all. Please advise !!! would be much appreciated. If this doesnt function then what would you recommend that I do buy....thanks Doug
7:40 I think that's ~90% vs~80% rated capacity? Like most manufacturers VTOMAN cuts off the power at 90% DOD to protect the battery, so the most it can get at the rated capacity is 1393. Plus even with DC out there's a conversion loss. So overall the battery has about 95% the rated capacity.
I have one of those behind the passenger seat for coffee maker. It's always hard to see if the inverter is still on because of the small icons on the screen. I wish there was a wired remote for the inverter.
Can the VTOMAN FlashSpeed 1500 support multiple solar panels? Like can you connect two VS220 Pro panels, or can you only support one at a time so that it would only be one VS220 Pro or a VS400?
I might have missed this but can you adjust the AC charging power? Charging LFP at 1C can be pretty rough on the cells.....granted.....how many people are going to cycle them enough to get them below 90% capacity before the calendar life does that to the cells?
Also, what's the power factor of the charger? Eg. if you've got a "2000 watt generator" it might overload the generator, as a lot of chargers have a PF of ~0.65 so 1500/0.65=2307VA which would overload a typical 2KVA generator.
129W on the VTOMAN and 107.74W discharge on the discharge module. almost 20% lost. At the end if you calculate it is 27.5% lost. What if this have 1548wh but you have too much lost?
Does seem a bit brutal to keep charging the batteries at this rate via mains. I wonder if using a 48v mains charger via the solar input would help longevity?
Hello, thanks for the testing. I have purchased that station recently. When I try to charge the station through the 12 DC input with an external power adapter then the display shows always 95W no matter what output power my power adapter really has. Is this the same on your station?
Ive been eyeing another budget minded gen and been mulling over this and the pecron 1500lfp. The fact vtoman doesnt have the extra battery yet is really pushing me towards the pecron. Pecrons extra battery price is hefty compared to vtomans jump extra battery though but offers its own solar input. Hopefully vtoman drops their extra battery for this soon so we can see if they added a BMS. Is nice having a ton of options these days. Even bluetti units arent horribly priced these days for small/mid sized units.
I think it'd have to a pretty cool ambient temp for the fans to NOT run when this unit is charging. Personally, I don't mind it so much if they're running continually vs cycling on and off constantly, which I find much more annoying. But as I said, that's a personal preference and you might feel differently.
Yeah thats too bad you cant adjust the ac in wattage. Or a button to have preset settings. Would be nice to plug this in to the outlet in my truck vs the cigarette port. But 1500w would trip the inverter. Could buy a laptop charger within 12-20v for
Thanks for the review. I am very much considering this unit. I recently received the Jump 1500x and Pecron E600. Both of those are excellent jobsite and camping power stations. However, neither are very convenient for power outage and backup duty. I'm a bit turned off by BLUETTI. The EB3A, that I thought would be like an EDC, has been relegated to my computer station UPS. The other station I find very intriguing is the MARXON G1500. There isn't a lot of user data, but it is an interesting unit. Blessings to all and have the day you deserve.
The only thing I can tell ..... BYE BYE EcoFlow .... BYE BYE Jackery !!!! A new star has born on the PowerStation market ... called VTOMAN !! When will it be available on the German market / Amazon .... can't wait for it !!
Hey, Thank you for all your videos! Excellent job. Can you tell me if you would reccomend the bluetti ac180 or the VTOMAN Jump 1500X. Using it for a small tear drop camping trailer. Also, want to be able to charge the portable power station with my Firman 3200W generator with propane. Is this possible?
You'll pay more for the AC180, but if you've got the funds, I'd go with the AC180 over the Jump station. You should be able to charge either one from the Firman generator as long as it's outputting at least 110V.
Please test the Vtoman 1500 flashspeed with the extra battery. I'm pretty sure you're find problems, major problems. Can you please bring this to light to everyone that appreciates your channel the way I do. Thank you
It was pointed out by another tester that the added-battery causes interruption during the charging process, due to the method ZTOMAN uses with the extra-battery discharging first, then the unit shutting down in operation. A decent test of this discharge/recharge cycle and a smooth-operation would be appreciated, as it is an important aspect of the X-series... especially, when left unattended and in UPS-mode. Thank you.
Hi Thanks for the review. Did you ever actually get 400w solar charging? I have the previous model vtoman and the best i could get it to solar charge is 183w. I would like to use this new one to charge quicker from solar and charge the older models via the power plug from this new one. I have 3 200w panels
I have the same. Is it normal that fans start even with the smallest of energy consumption? I connected to AC an electric blanket to the minimum and it consumes around 20W. The fans kick in right away and never shut down. They are so loud all night.
Can 2 be paired together for true North American 120/240 volt split phase power if not then why not any unit with a 1500 Watt pure wave inverter and above 2 1500watt legs should if the load is balanced run a fridge freezer furnace microwave oven and other small appliances maybe not all at the same time but I can put up with the nusiance of turning off a breaker so something doesn't start up while I'm running something else
You may already have one but a comparison of the sub $1,000 units like this and the Pecron etc in terms of high quality and extra features for the dollars. So far the Pecron seems better to me but i have only watched a few videos of your reviews.
Hi, got a question, I belive you mentioned in previous videos that is not good to always use flash charging as it weakens the battery over time. Does this allow you to charge with AC without flash charging?
After I watch your review, I spent almost $4000 on their product. I don't know if you got this for free or not. But I spent my own hard working money on this product after your review. I purchased two of the flash 1500s and two more extra batteries. Their product didn't work together perfectly and seamlessly like they advertised. I hope you give this a review and give your honest opinion on why it is not working like advertised.
Sorry to hear that you're having issues. The add-on battery expansion option was not available at the time I did this video and to date, at least, I've not yet gotten my hands on one. Can you tell me what the specific issue is that you're having so I have a better understanding of your situation?
I've read on their website reviews that when using the expansion battery it will not automatically switch over once the extra battery is depleted, is this what you're talking about? I hope this is something that firmware can fix. I've ordered one because of the extra battery function. I wonder if other brands operate the same way?
Any of the outputs - timed? that is, 'auto-shutoff after so much time on -whether LOAD r not'. THATs a TERRIBLE FEATURE - especially when ur *depending* on it to run without interference!! PLZ TEST for... THX!
I’m having trouble hooking up 2 panels In series. I plug each on individually, they say they’re making ~170watts each. But then when I plug them in series the display says 0 watts. Where I would expect it to say ~340 when both plugged in. Am I missing something? Im putting red from box into first panel, then red from first panel to black of the second panel then red from that one back into the power box to form a loop. Wattage all says zero tho. What am I doing wrong?
I assume you're going into the Anderson connector - which does have a max input voltage of 60V. So you need to be VERY sure you're not exceeding that voltage, which can be very easy to do when connecting panels in series - depending on their individual operating voltages. You definitely don't want to fry your charge controller. If you're certain that the combined series voltage is under the 60V cap, then there is something else going on and you might need to contact VTOMAN tech support. If you're total voltage was 60V or higher...definitely stop doing a series connection and try connecting them in parallel with a couple of branch connectors and see how that works for you.
Thank you for actually doing some tests on this device rather than most of the other 'reviews' where they just read off the manufacturers specifications. Very useful.
If anyone is interested Sam's Club has the Ecoflow mini it's 882 watt hour $150 off it's $399.98 through August 20
30-60v solar input rules out the use of many single solar panels unless two panels are used in series.
Yep this almost bit me in the ass. I just cancelled my order. It seems all of the reviewers are failing to mention/emphasize this significant shortcoming. 😡
I bought this unit for $600 from Amazon. The best purchase I’ve ever done. For the price this is one of the best power stations I’ve ever had the fast charge is an absolute lifesaver in an emergency. Love your review
Just bought this unit for my shed setup. Ebay off the VTOMAN store + Black Friday sale was $1119AUD or $734USD Again thanks for all your amazing reviews as without em' I and many other would be simply left wondering. Cheers.
I purchase this unit based off your recommendation. Two things I wish you would've mentioned, is that it trips a ground fault outlet and... if you leave it plugged in charging after it is fully charged, it is always drawing 80 W with all the orange buttons turned off, and no draw.
Wow, I'm going to need to test this. 80 W seems like way too much!
Would that be for the ups relay?
Just guessing, no idea
@@scottmurphy4946 I checked this, it does have a parasitic drain of about 72 w when fully charged with no draw and 65 W while charging and draining. The UPS I think is a top-of-the-line UPS. It is charging the battery, then all power is being drawn from the battery.
I also found when I turned off the breaker and back fed through a GFI it tripped.
Since you have 2 kill a watt testers, put one before the unit charging and put one on one of the outlets and put a 200 W load for one hour. This would be a worthy demonstration for a lot of guys using this for UPS computers and security systems. I would love to see the video.
You could try a kill-o-watt meter in your wall outlet feeding this unit, then put another kiil-o-watt meter feeding a fridge from the AC output of this unit. Maybe test it for a 24 hour period.
@omm7763 thank you for this reply, if that's the cost of a ups with quick switch over, so be it
How long did you leave it after it started saying 80 watts? Sounds like the cells are only pulling ~0.05C (80/1500) - that 80 watts must be going somewhere.
I'd leave it for another 24 hours and say what it says then. This will let it top-balance the cells.
Does it tell you its battery voltage? (To be certain that it's not holding it at a silly high voltage.)
Nice review:) Lot's of competition now in this price range, which is very good for the consumer. VTOMAN and Pecron give you the 1.5KW battery, which is 50% more than the venerable Delta 2 and about 30% higher than the AC180. Having an app is a nice extra that VTOMAN has yet to offer, but having the ability to jump start your car is really much better than an app!
Yet lower power output, 1500 vs 1800W
@@billtuttle7855 And with the AC180 going for as little as $548 during Bluetti's online promotions, game, set, and match goes back to the Bluetti court!
How the hell do you jump start a car while trying to balance such a large box with what seems like cables not even long enough to reach beow the unit, let along to where a battery may be hidden ?
Solar Panel Question - The specs says input voltage of (Anderson Input) 30V-60V at 400W and (DC Input) at 12V-20V 200W. I am new to power stations and solar panels and I watched your solar panel review video. I'm still learning and confused so perhaps a simple questions
1. What economical solar panel or panels do you recommend.
I have a much better understanding after watching your videos but sometimes is easier to just ask questions :-) Thanks
I'm using 2 100w panels wired in series to get 36v nominal output (in full sun usually kicks out around 50v). It's hard to find panels that will put out more than 30v so you will likely have to build your own (or buy the folding panel from VTOMan). One note: I have two of these units and NEITHER will charge reliably on solar - they will work fine for weeks and then just decide to stop charging. I have not been able to determine a cause of this.
I bought a cheap panel and with installation I paid about 250 usd 😂
I’ve never heard of this company before so thankyou for making me aware of them! I really like the design of this power station it actually looks cool
Thanks for reviewing this! I just bought the Vtoman jump 1800 last week. They have the same 1548 KWh rating but I’m thinking about returning it to buy this one instead. It’s only $50 more with the current discount. I like the fast charging and flat top features. I was just worried about the flash speed series as it was brand new and didn’t have many reviews. Would you recommend this over the jump 1800?
I gotta tell ya, I’m absolutely loving the VTOMAN brand! I’ve got my hands on this awesome X1 jump starter with air compressor, and let me tell you, it’s the real deal! This thing is a beast and a total game-changer. When it comes to starting up my engine or dealing with a flat tire, the VTOMAN X1 has got my back, no doubt about it.
I just ordered this from Amazon with $450 off coupon. I added the 4 year insurance just incase anything goes wrong but it looks like a solid unit from my research.
Thanks for the review.
This or box damaged delta 2 for £609....so difficult....
How would one get a coupon like that?
@@scottgilliamprettysureihea3757 it's currently $300 off $999 with coupon on Amazon.
Mine currently doesn't work. Doesn't charge. Vtoman is asking that I send them a video of it, not working.
Check Eric Hernandez's review of the extended-battery issue. That REALLY needs some attention from the "Nearly-Perfect" unit. Also, will this unit recharge from a standard non-inverted generator (aka "rough-power")?.
One of the primary things i look for with a large battery unit like this is the ability to turn itself and load circuits back on after a complete power outage, the ability to use solar and AC at the same time, and when the sun is out to prioritize the use of solar.
Is there a battery unit that allows you to charge with solar and AC at the same time? That seems counterintuitive to me.
@@RealFarknMcCoy yeah true....unless you are a bank robber and need to be on the go fast.
Iv been using this for everything from refrigerator to tv to fans no problem.
The item page on Amazon says it can charge with all 3 inputs at once for a total of 2100W. 1500w ac, 400w solar and 200w DC.
So, I'm not leaving because of you. Love you're content! I am buying Pecron products because of your views. Excellent stuff dude! UA-cam is the reason I'm leaving. Wish you all the best!
Looks like they listened and got rid of the stationary handle too. Very nice, and a great review as well. Anyone in the market needs to see these reviews to make a decision.
Some people would prefer single handed lifting.
Nice review. Definite upgrade from the jump series. I own one of the jump series power station. Only issue with review is the AC surge check. The portable AC unit you used is probably has a invertor system without a motor surge. Wonder how it would deal with AC with a startup motor surge.
I saw some off grid couple using it with a chop saw and table saw cutting treated 2x4s with no issues
So, if i get this correct, this generator can charge via solar and car charger at the same time. That could come in handy. Especially if using a 12v to 24v relay.
This is definitely causing me to look st my bank acct and making a purchase!!! The 1,500 inverter is perfect for my purposes 😁
Hi, great information thanks, one question though if I may, I’ve seen a review online where someone said “Many Watts but limited surge capacity for starting inductive loads like refrigerators and microwaves without being damaged over time. This uses a low surge high frequency inverter”… can you comment on that please?
I'm so jealous of anyone who buys this. I have the 1000 and 1500 jump and will have to wait for the new 600 flash. Should I wait for the new extra battery or buy the jump extra battery?
We have enjoy our Vtoman which lead us to it from your reviews. Thak you for all your reviews.
As usual, great review! Love the upgrades and they were much needed to stay viable in this segment, good looking unit at well. Checks most of the boxes for my needs. Definitely on the consideration list, thanks again.
What other units are on your list?
@@TheAnglan Narrowed to 2- this or the PECRON E1500LFP.
I noticed this power station didn't have a digital read out for the time left like the other vtoman power station wonder why they didn't add that feature
Not only this specific unit but how do you go about protecting any power station unit while solar charging outside? In case of a sudden rain shower or something? I assume keeping it covered with a plastic bag or something isn't recommended. I am sure user should not cover the ventilation cut outs on the unit for many reasons?
Buy a longer solar panel cable and keep the unit out of the sun/ weather
Great review, How long would it be able to run something like that 8000BTU AC unit for at full charge?
Not long. Maybe 1 hour.
Another great review. I’ve been holding off to see if Vtoman would up the solar charge rate. This may be coming to my home shortly.
Excellent review, thanks! I got the original jump 1500 after my research mostly thanks to your review, and I'll be darned if I don't want to get this one though as well! Maybe my old one can take the place of the extra battery 😅 or as the fast charge AC *drains dead in one hour*
If VTOMAN had a buyback or trade-in, I'd be expecting an Amazon delivery already. Sadly, budget can't take it for a while.
Cheers!
Turns out that I *do* have one now, and didn't have to give my old one up. I won their IG contest and received it in under a week 😊
Now I'm hunting for affordable portable solar options 😅
Its funny that they are all adopting the Oukitel form factor, complete with handles and cable storage compartment. The layout of the plugs is a bit different, and the internals are clearly going to be different. But the form factor is clearly copied from Oukitel's P2001. The voltages look similar too,
As with other power stations, the charging and regulation circuitry is not really all that efficient. All of these vendors are still cheaping out on design quality. It would be nice to test the USB-C discharge efficiency to see if it is any better. Those tend to use dedicated support chips for voltage regulation which are usually around 90% efficient.
Note that the "watt" display is likely completely wrong when you are charging and discharging at the same time. All of these power stations copied the same broken design and the readings all go wonky when doing that, across many models and vendors. You need to put a kill-a-watt on both the input and output.
Final item... note that kill-a-watt's and similar devices generally can't handle continuous power anywhere near what they say they can handle on the label. It might seem odd since it just goes through a shunt, but the problem is that the contacts on the kill-a-watt socket tend to not be well-plated (or plated at all) and tend to corrode and oxidize over time. The result is excessive heat due to poor contact area and the plastic starts to melt around the socket. So watch for that.
Haven't seen the expandable battery available yet for these flash 1500 units? They look good on their website!
Yeah I've been meaning to ask them about the availability status on that. Thanks for the reminder!
I’ve watched many videos and have narrowed down to flash 1500, cube 1000 and c1000. I really like the vtoman but it seems they only have a 2year warranty. That’s a real bummer.because of that the Anker seems to be the next best with five year warranty. I’d love to hear your personal opinion and maybe there is another unit I need to be thinking about. I like have more dc options and 1500 watts and my plan is a couple 265 watt panels. Thanx for any input you may have. Thanx for your reviews.
Amazing review. But, I don't believe there is pass through Power via AC to AC. I do believe that the battery is continuously charged, and the pure AC sin wave is always being pulled from the battery. A good test for this would be plug-in the charging cord and run 1800 W to see if the voltage drops. My bet is that it does.
Next, it would be really nice if you took the VTOMAN 1800 and charged this new one through the AC pure sine wave. This would give me 600 W charging with a previously purchased item. This could be a game changer.
I have a fog machine that is 1300 watts, I should have no problem running it with this right?
Use one of those plug-in meters to see the maximum amps it pulls. This station can probably deliver ~12.5 amps (1500/120.) It might be able to stretch it a bit my lowering the voltage, but that's assuming that the load will pull less current when the voltage is lowered. I guess a fog machine is basically a heater and will be fine.
Thank you for such great information! I ordered this and a BougeRV flex panel (for my camper) from watching your vids. While I was at BougeRV website I saw their 400w rigid solar panel and remembered you said the VTOMAN FlashSpeed 1500 accepted 400w solar, so my question is will the BRV 400w work with my VTOMAN FP1500? If so I'm going to order and will be glad to use a code from you.Thanks!
Great review. Thank you!
If you supply it power from a modified sine inverter. When you have it plugged in it will pass modified to the 110 outlets ?
You should see if you could acquire an Anker Solix C1000 to perform a capacity test. This is easily one of the most purchased power stations on the market, however not a single UA-cam video showing a capacity test. Also of all the power stations of 2023 which is the best for each category, ie. 1000WH, 1500WH, 2000WH units?
I've had one of the these and find that when it's charging (currently only via a cigarette lighter), the amount of watts coming in reduces the higher the load. For example, if a my appliances are drawing 111 watts, as they are now, I'm only getting 13 watts in via the lighter socket. I've contacted Vtoman who have requested photos. I'm now waiting for a reply.
Wonder if the super ac fast charging affects the battery making it last less, great video gonna buy it just arrived at my country been waiting 2 months almost bought the vtoman 1000 but rather get this one. Love your vids very well done👍
Hi there ,I like your reviews but,the ups? Have you seen review by Josh Oakes?Is yours ok when fully charged ?
Regards Colin
Is there an option to charge it more slowly? Thats speed will wear out the unit I think. Somewhere around 600w input would be nice.
This is my concern as well
Awesome for quick recharge off a generator but I'd rather slower speeds when I am in no rush
Also, what's the power factor of the charger? Eg. if you've got a "2000 watt generator" it might overload the generator, as a lot of chargers have a PF of ~0.65 so 1500/0.65=2307VA which would overload a typical 2KVA generator.
@@jimmybrad156 I ended up getting the Dabbson 1300. fully customizable charging speeds and a good value too.
I've done some tests myself which may prove useful to someone.
A 1kw heater ran for 76mins and used 1.33kw till flat
However a TV at between 60-100w ran for 13 hours but only used .8kw before flat.
So I assume these are very inefficient when ran for long time periods with a small watt draw. I didn't realise this.
Mine arrv %80 full and i attached Ac input and in 12 minutes % 100....WOW
Is a 400w 30-60v the only solar panels that can be used with the Flash Speed?
Or can you use a 200w solar panel also?
Great review... thanks! Say, you mentioned that Vtoman has "apparently" resolved the problems we smaller-sized "Jumpers" have been living with involving a very restrictive 100w or, for some, a 200w solar input max. Can you please explain where you were going with that? Thanks.
I think where I was going with that was simply that if you needed more robust solar charging, VTOMAN didn't really have a viable solution since their entire Jump line was relegated to only 200W or less. But with the FlashSpeed series, that limitation has been 'resolved' in that they DO now have a solution with more robust solar input capacity (not that they've resolved the limitation in the Jump series).
Great video, which brand of 200 watt solar panels did buy for your Vtoman? Thx
Excellent review!
Great review, thank you
Video idea solar charge controllers that have low temp protection so we can use budget lifepo4 batteries,
any victron smart SCC + smart battery sense $30
epever AN series 10amp-40amp possibly others in the AN series you have to use a PC and there rs485 usb cable to enable it though from what ive read
HSQ 60amp SCC
Hi. I have a question about vtoman jump 1500 and I have 220w solars that came in the deal with them,but when it's a bit bright the station will light up the numbers will flash, well 1 of them but watts stay at zero. I have it on the balcony,at the moment sun is not high enough yet in UK. But...I thought that it will show some watts. It has charged 3%,which I didn't see because I was at work but it was showing after few hours. Well that would be quite horrible if it would have to charge 30 days for nearly full charge. Have you used yours on a cloudy day and what did it do?
Got another question for you... would it be possible to use the Alphaess SP300 (300watt) and a THUNDERBOLT SOLAR 100 Watt Solar Panel Briefcase (Harbor Freight) for the 400 watt input?
I could not tell on the video does it have PD ports or just the usb A and quick charge. As always great great video.
@ReeWray Outdoors keep in mind i have seen other reviews where if the battery is at 100% the ups feature takes much longer to switch over/turn the inverter on. Can you confirm?
Greetings. I’m thinking about a couple 265 watt panels but I do not yet have output voltage for the panels. Am I understanding correctly the output needs to be a minimum of 30volts to function with the flash speed 1500?
Just ordered this today... Looking forward to it
Cool! I hope you'll report back and let us know what you think. 🙂
👌 I just wish the add-on batteries were more reasonable.. Right now they're MORE than the core device
Edit... Turns out that the batteries showing online are NOT the add-on battery for this unit, see my new post
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsbtw... Based on your other videos I've also purchased the pecron E600LFP
I've had that for about 3 months and I'm quite happy with it..
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsWord of warning with the fashspeed 1500
I bought it because it has expandable batteries as shown on their website and in their documentation...
THEY DO NOT EXIST and they don't know when they will
So now have one of these, that do not do what I want due to VTOMAN's FALSE ADVERTISING and to send it back I have to pay for shipping
@@ReeWrayOutdoorsoverall their customer service has been atrocious and I've had to submit a complaint via the California State false advertising process
I bought this unit. I also bought the
DOKIO 2PCS 220W 18V Portable Solar Panel 400 Watt Solar Panel Kit Folding with 2 USB Outputs for 12v Batteries/Power Station AGM LiFePo4 . will this work on this powerstation. also the wires that come off the solar unit is one unit so no positive and separate negative. So how do I hook these up in series if indeed this unit will work at all. Please advise !!! would be much appreciated. If this doesnt function then what would you recommend that I do buy....thanks Doug
Thanks for a great review.
7:40 I think that's ~90% vs~80% rated capacity? Like most manufacturers VTOMAN cuts off the power at 90% DOD to protect the battery, so the most it can get at the rated capacity is 1393. Plus even with DC out there's a conversion loss. So overall the battery has about 95% the rated capacity.
I have one of those behind the passenger seat for coffee maker. It's always hard to see if the inverter is still on because of the small icons on the screen. I wish there was a wired remote for the inverter.
Currently on sale for $749 on thier website. This includes taxes and delivery fees. I ordered mine yesterday
Can the VTOMAN FlashSpeed 1500 support multiple solar panels? Like can you connect two VS220 Pro panels, or can you only support one at a time so that it would only be one VS220 Pro or a VS400?
I might have missed this but can you adjust the AC charging power? Charging LFP at 1C can be pretty rough on the cells.....granted.....how many people are going to cycle them enough to get them below 90% capacity before the calendar life does that to the cells?
Also, what's the power factor of the charger? Eg. if you've got a "2000 watt generator" it might overload the generator, as a lot of chargers have a PF of ~0.65 so 1500/0.65=2307VA which would overload a typical 2KVA generator.
The best so far slow on up grates size battery’s.
129W on the VTOMAN and 107.74W discharge on the discharge module. almost 20% lost. At the end if you calculate it is 27.5% lost.
What if this have 1548wh but you have too much lost?
My vtoman jump 1900 came with 400 W solar panels
Does seem a bit brutal to keep charging the batteries at this rate via mains. I wonder if using a 48v mains charger via the solar input would help longevity?
Hello, thanks for the testing. I have purchased that station recently. When I try to charge the station through the 12 DC input with an external power adapter then the display shows always 95W no matter what output power my power adapter really has. Is this the same on your station?
Ive been eyeing another budget minded gen and been mulling over this and the pecron 1500lfp. The fact vtoman doesnt have the extra battery yet is really pushing me towards the pecron. Pecrons extra battery price is hefty compared to vtomans jump extra battery though but offers its own solar input. Hopefully vtoman drops their extra battery for this soon so we can see if they added a BMS. Is nice having a ton of options these days. Even bluetti units arent horribly priced these days for small/mid sized units.
Do the fans ever turn off when charging with a/c power? I’d like to use this as a ups, but continuous fan noise would drive me nuts.
I think it'd have to a pretty cool ambient temp for the fans to NOT run when this unit is charging. Personally, I don't mind it so much if they're running continually vs cycling on and off constantly, which I find much more annoying. But as I said, that's a personal preference and you might feel differently.
Yeah thats too bad you cant adjust the ac in wattage. Or a button to have preset settings. Would be nice to plug this in to the outlet in my truck vs the cigarette port. But 1500w would trip the inverter. Could buy a laptop charger within 12-20v for
Jesus there was an $840 coupon? Sad I missed this video. I already had the original and the backup extra battery too.
Wow great unit and at the current amazon price its only 55 cents per rated Kwh.
Hoped to see how jump start works. Still, good review.
Thanks for the review. I am very much considering this unit. I recently received the Jump 1500x and Pecron E600. Both of those are excellent jobsite and camping power stations. However, neither are very convenient for power outage and backup duty. I'm a bit turned off by BLUETTI. The EB3A, that I thought would be like an EDC, has been relegated to my computer station UPS. The other station I find very intriguing is the MARXON G1500. There isn't a lot of user data, but it is an interesting unit. Blessings to all and have the day you deserve.
I'm considering Marxon as well. It's top of my list at moment.
@brianclevenger5521 writes, "I'm a bit turned off by BLUETTI." What about it turned you off? Thank you.
The only thing I can tell ..... BYE BYE EcoFlow .... BYE BYE Jackery !!!!
A new star has born on the PowerStation market ... called VTOMAN !!
When will it be available on the German market / Amazon .... can't wait for it !!
How much does it weigh and if im going to use it for emergencys should i keep it charge at % 100 or %80?? Thanks
Hey, Thank you for all your videos! Excellent job. Can you tell me if you would reccomend the bluetti ac180 or the VTOMAN Jump 1500X. Using it for a small tear drop camping trailer. Also, want to be able to charge the portable power station with my Firman 3200W generator with propane. Is this possible?
You'll pay more for the AC180, but if you've got the funds, I'd go with the AC180 over the Jump station. You should be able to charge either one from the Firman generator as long as it's outputting at least 110V.
Please test the Vtoman 1500 flashspeed with the extra battery. I'm pretty sure you're find problems, major problems. Can you please bring this to light to everyone that appreciates your channel the way I do. Thank you
What problems??
Boy, you must be a joyful guy !!!
What problems ?
It was pointed out by another tester that the added-battery causes interruption during the charging process, due to the method ZTOMAN uses with the extra-battery discharging first, then the unit shutting down in operation. A decent test of this discharge/recharge cycle and a smooth-operation would be appreciated, as it is an important aspect of the X-series... especially, when left unattended and in UPS-mode. Thank you.
@donschap Yeah I would like yo see that now
Looks like a nice unit with the coupon.
Hi Thanks for the review. Did you ever actually get 400w solar charging? I have the previous model vtoman and the best i could get it to solar charge is 183w. I would like to use this new one to charge quicker from solar and charge the older models via the power plug from this new one. I have 3 200w panels
I have the same. Is it normal that fans start even with the smallest of energy consumption? I connected to AC an electric blanket to the minimum and it consumes around 20W. The fans kick in right away and never shut down. They are so loud all night.
Could you do a video on dash cam comparisons and recommendations? You might have already done one, but I can’t find it in the archives. Thanks.
It's not comprehensive in that I'm only comparing 2 brands, but here's one I did earlier this year: ua-cam.com/video/To2-5ZhFUvI/v-deo.html
What is the consensus on harbor freight 100w panels? I'm looking at the 1000w item from another vid
Mine arrv 8/26/23 and its AC keeps recording 1680 INPUT! Cant that be BAD for the Life of the battery's or sm i missing something??
Mine does the same thing. I won't be using the AC charging much though, otherwise I'd more concerned.
Can 2 be paired together for true North American 120/240 volt split phase power if not then why not any unit with a 1500 Watt pure wave inverter and above 2 1500watt legs should if the load is balanced run a fridge freezer furnace microwave oven and other small appliances maybe not all at the same time but I can put up with the nusiance of turning off a breaker so something doesn't start up while I'm running something else
how long will this keep a dometic cooler going before it needs re-charging on a camping trip
You may already have one but a comparison of the sub $1,000 units like this and the Pecron etc in terms of high quality and extra features for the dollars. So far the Pecron seems better to me but i have only watched a few videos of your reviews.
Hi, got a question, I belive you mentioned in previous videos that is not good to always use flash charging as it weakens the battery over time. Does this allow you to charge with AC without flash charging?
Someone please respond to this!
Was thinking about this myself
Looks like you'd need your own power supply, and according to the specs there's no input for 20 to 30 v DC grrrrr lol
The lcd read out display is limited...is there a workaround to get more info from the display
Great review. How does this compare to the Anker 757? Thanks.
After I watch your review, I spent almost $4000 on their product. I don't know if you got this for free or not. But I spent my own hard working money on this product after your review. I purchased two of the flash 1500s and two more extra batteries. Their product didn't work together perfectly and seamlessly like they advertised. I hope you give this a review and give your honest opinion on why it is not working like advertised.
Sorry to hear that you're having issues. The add-on battery expansion option was not available at the time I did this video and to date, at least, I've not yet gotten my hands on one. Can you tell me what the specific issue is that you're having so I have a better understanding of your situation?
I've read on their website reviews that when using the expansion battery it will not automatically switch over once the extra battery is depleted, is this what you're talking about? I hope this is something that firmware can fix. I've ordered one because of the extra battery function. I wonder if other brands operate the same way?
@@chrisk9351 yes, it depletes the extra battery and will not switch over seamlessly like advertised in their manual.
I have reviewed other products I bought from awesome reviews that were negative. They were immediately deleted.
Any of the outputs - timed? that is, 'auto-shutoff after so much time on -whether LOAD r not'. THATs a TERRIBLE FEATURE - especially when ur *depending* on it to run without interference!! PLZ TEST for... THX!
Where can i find an expansion battery for the flashspeed? All I can find is the jump series extra batteries?
I’m having trouble hooking up 2 panels In series. I plug each on individually, they say they’re making ~170watts each. But then when I plug them in series the display says 0 watts. Where I would expect it to say ~340 when both plugged in. Am I missing something? Im putting red from box into first panel, then red from first panel to black of the second panel then red from that one back into the power box to form a loop. Wattage all says zero tho. What am I doing wrong?
I assume you're going into the Anderson connector - which does have a max input voltage of 60V. So you need to be VERY sure you're not exceeding that voltage, which can be very easy to do when connecting panels in series - depending on their individual operating voltages. You definitely don't want to fry your charge controller. If you're certain that the combined series voltage is under the 60V cap, then there is something else going on and you might need to contact VTOMAN tech support. If you're total voltage was 60V or higher...definitely stop doing a series connection and try connecting them in parallel with a couple of branch connectors and see how that works for you.
Good job 👏 👍
Whats the Weight of the unit? Good vid!
Just under 42 lbs
Why do some systems have small capacity and a few like this system have almost identical numbers? What’s the pros and cons.
what's the difference between this model and the 1500X? thank you