Nintendo is an uniquely litigious company. Yuzu devs played with fire even more by releasing early access builds behind a Patreon paywall. As far as I can tell, the shadps4 team isn't doing that on Ko-fi.
I fully agree, but there's no doubt that they will have to guard against legal pitfalls. Sony may not be as litigious as Nintendo, but Bloodborne is a big deal for the company.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 big deal bro they dont give a fuk about that ip no more lol the only game they care is that robot betch aloy sht have gazillion of remastered
if Bloodborne ever comes to PC officially, it probably going to be bad, with ruined atmosphere and demanding hardware than ps4 capable, also we will be forced to use PS account to play on PC. at least on ShadPS4 we'll play the faithful version
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 yep if you get offline, you are absolutely fucked as you can't play the game since it tracks the login info everytime u start the game. THANK GOD there's a mod called No PSN Login now
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 Yeah, i can't buy it in Serbia. Over 170 countries. Sony fans talk like we are against psn or something. But we literally don't have option to pay game. Piracy only option.
bro sony doesn't care about ps4 emulation it's been 11 years, they're in fact desperate to get people to move over to ps5 finally. the switch is still current for nintendo
Knowing the specs of the PS4 when it came out, I'm honestly surprised it wasn't emulated by the mid 2010's or so. And there's been a few emulators since around 2018-2019 but none of them went very far, except for Spine maybe (which weirdly enough was Linux exclusive).
I do think something will happen with Sony and ShadPS4, but i bet it will go same as the past when emulation was seen as legal, it just may result in roms being harder to find. But beyond that, i'll refer to what Gabe Newell said about piracy: It's a service problem, and in the case of Sony, it's entirely on them if they are 'missing out' on money for PS4 titles (which is honestly impossible to actually prove for sure), the flood gates for PC ports have already been opened, and Bloodborne is almost a decade old by now, i don't understand why they haven't done anything with it, a PC port is the easiest money in the world but they prefer to throw $400M into the garbage bin with titles like Concord or remaster games that are already available everywhere and run perfectly fine like Horizon ZD.
2:09 This is incorrect. Around 70% of all ps3 games are considered playable, and a good amount of games that are only considered "in-game" are still fully playable at higher frame rates and resolution than the game would run on native hardware. So beatable ps3 on rpcs3 is closer to probably 80%. The real reason that Sony didn't care about rpcs3 is because they stopped making any real money off of ps3 games. The one and only time that rpcs3 got in hot water is when Persona 5 released and the game was somewhat playable on rpcs3. ShadPS4 is in a similar position to rpcs3 in terms of game developers being nearly done with supporting ps4.
The sole reason is ps4 uses x86 architecture almost same as PC, so its easier to emulate than rcps3 but rcps3 emulation is already there if you have the proper hardware, if your cpu is on the S tier list you should be good to go
nintendo has always hated their user database.. they resell the same games over and over and then get mad when you emulate the games you bought 15+ years ago.
What sucks a lot is that people have the freedom to use emulators and are for the most part legal but if it messes with sells they'll blame the emulator when in reality it's Sonys fault mostly due to no enhancements or losing trust. I think it Sony does try to do something they'll get a lot of backlash and when people find out they'll lose more sells.
Every generation of council has been on the downturn. With the exception of a handheld like the switch or steam deck. People are simply buying computers. The days of councils being leaps and bounds ahead of PC or long behind them.
Agree. Sony just needs some far-fetched argument to open a court case even knowing they'd have no chance to win it. And the sheer amount of money you need to firmly stand in court is mind blowing. So Sony's hope would be for shadps4 devs to chicken out before the process even started like yuzu devs did.
I literally don't care it should have psn/multiplayer support as well. sony deserves go bankrupt. I hate them. adding some form of player ran or hosted decentralized multiplayer option is essential and would be even more of a middle finger to sony that they rightfully deserve.
The only problem i can find about this is that people are being too loud about their progress, i guess it should be better if they could just remain in silence for long periods of time and then drop an update
I don't see spreading the rate of progress of shadps4 a bad thing unless they've done something illegal for sony to strike. In fact, it is a good thing to let other programmers contribute to the project, unlike gatekeeping it.
Because that emulator was also stealing Nintendo's encryption. Until someone makes a switch emulator with pure clean room code this will continue to happen.
Yes bro there tone of emulator even you can windo in android and play pc game in my phone i can run resident evil 7 re 2 remake and 3 gta 5 and old games
rpsc3 is an amazing emulator with almost no issues for me, and the reason sony isn't shutting it down isn't because the emulator struggles to run exclusives, its because rpsc3 only gives a platform of emulation for the ps3, nothing more, they don't hand out pirated game files nor do they want anything to do with piracy. Yuzu on the other hand, were teaching people how to get the game running with illegal game files which sparked lawsuit between them and nintendo, along as shadps4 doesn't do anything cocky they will be just fine, however most people will probably pirate the game files from third party sources.
Sony already lost one emulation lawsuit befor i dont think theyd attemp to stop any console emulation sony gives you the firmware legally so you just need to disk of the game and you. Can rip it
Yeah been playing older resistance games on RPCS3 lately and they’re ROUGH. I have a 3060ti with 11th gen i7k so not the best rig in the world but fairly respectable, and I’m legit getting 40fps at 1080p on certain gunfights in resistance 2. Resistance 1 on the newest version of the emulator was so prone to CPU bottlenecks I was getting single digit FPS on the vehicle sections when tens of the little shit aliens came out. Going back to a later version fixed the issue but having regression in an emulator this far in just feels terrible I hope I can actually play resistance 3 lol.
Just saying but Sony is still on time for re-releasing their exclusives on PC (specially Bloodborne). Besides, current Sony isn't as protective as Nintendo when it comes to emulation from what I know. As for PS4 emulation being better on the long-term than RPCS3, it's a possibility but it will depend heavily on how much shadPS4 is being worked on a daily-basis.
you seem to forget ps4 emulation requires a very high end pc to run games well, would you rather pay over a 1000$ for a gaming pc or get a PS4 for 200-300?
Pay $1000 for a gaming PC that can emulate PS4 and everything below, can also run PC games, be able to pirate games, watch movies and work. Looks like consoles aren't an option here. And PS5 "exclusives" are no longer exclusives because they can be purchased on Steam. Console gaming is cooked. (Before you will say anything - i own a good gaming PC and PS3,4,5. Using PS5 only to play Gran Turismo in VR with steering wheel)
The PS4 emulator devs should just wait for the PS4 to be discontinued (I know. It's going to be a long wait for that time to come.) before making too much progress in a short period of time in lieu of litigation.
It's amazing how many hate comments from clueless 10 year old angry kids you're getting in the comments section. While you do have a point that the PS4 still represents a big part of Sony's revenue, I don't know if they would even try to throw another punch at emulation considering how they already did and it backfired on them 20 years or so ago. But hey, it's a big money hungry corporation. They will do anything for money like any other big, fat, greedy corporation, which sucks.
Yeah, the haters are trying their best to end this video. Apparently it's click-bait, which is surprising to me. Look, this is how I see matters. Sony is already behaving in an anti-consumer fashion. I just have a distinct feeling that they might do something about PS4 emulation. Why wouldn't they? I'm not saying it would be right, but any profit-driven company would try to maximize their revenue. They're already screwing customers over with that PSN account "thing". That indicates to me that they have no regard for public opinion.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 I hope you're not right, but yeah, it is very likely. Whoever believes that they are not capable of doing such a thing is completely delusional.
Sony wont care at all, pcsx2 has been around when ps2 was still selling. Pointless and waste of resources plus shadps4 requires a powerful gpu which most people dont have anyway 😂
It doesn't work this way. If the emulator does not infringe on the IP then they can't do anything,,,, Even if they are not happy, shadPS4 is not using Sony SDK as far as I am aware, nor it is using any other tooling So no, they cannot shut it down on a whim.
It's a good thing we can emulate switch games but the problem is that people who can buy the game look for pirated versions for switch or any other pc games. Which is a bad thing. People whin about games being costly yet they have a pc setup of 1000$+ what an irony. Play the pirates games if you like it then consider buying it to support and show love to developers
"People whin about games being costly yet they have a pc setup of 1000$+ what an irony" How is that irony? You can get a decent gaming PC for lke $600-$700 (And you can actually use it for much more than gaming which already makes it better than consoles) Also games aren't costly on PC, they're really cheap, you can buy hundreds of good games for cheap on PC anytime you want What isn't cheap are older console games which can go for hundreds of dollars but that really only matters if you're a purist and don't want to mod your systems or use flashcarts
A Sony lança muitos remasters de jogos desnecessários do PlayStation 4 , por isso o lado bom que avança a emulação teremos uma qualidade gráfica melhor sem pagar mais por isso com shaders e packs de texturas sem custo adicional, igual sony esta fazendo é uma roubalheira.
Fake video talking alout of bull dooodoo everyone will always buy games and consoles whats terrible the company's attacking emulations they don't know it preserve games and motivate people to buy their games and consoles
Wow you really dropped the ball on this one. Here take a pity comment because I feel bad for you if your this desperate for views that you'd be so blatantly wrong lol yikes.
Nintendo is an uniquely litigious company. Yuzu devs played with fire even more by releasing early access builds behind a Patreon paywall. As far as I can tell, the shadps4 team isn't doing that on Ko-fi.
I fully agree, but there's no doubt that they will have to guard against legal pitfalls. Sony may not be as litigious as Nintendo, but Bloodborne is a big deal for the company.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 well if it’s such a big deal for them we should’ve already seen a remaster or ps4 pro enhancement with unlocked framerate
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 big deal bro they dont give a fuk about that ip no more lol the only game they care is that robot betch aloy sht have gazillion of remastered
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 it isn't, blood Borne sold 7 million , spiderman 2 which the brazilians infamously did nothing to sold 11 million
@@linkedlord343 Regardless, Bloodborne coming to PC would still break the internet
When big companies figure out that emulation is a love letter of fans to games, they should focus on their future not their past
companies love to sell you the same games over ad over again
@@whateverr64Fine, sell me Bloodborne on pc Sony.
Ya forget, the companies just want money. They suck.
Switch isn't in their past now is it
also your assessment of rpcs3 being further behind than ps4 emulation is plainly incorrect
The emulation is very different the shad ps4 emulator is more gpu dependent while rcps3 requires a powerful cpu with avx 512
he said could become, my guy
he said until rpcs3 becomes perfect, shadps4 **might** be as good or better
if Bloodborne ever comes to PC officially, it probably going to be bad, with ruined atmosphere and demanding hardware than ps4 capable, also we will be forced to use PS account to play on PC. at least on ShadPS4 we'll play the faithful version
Sony should really stop with those PSN accounts. It's hurting their reputation. Is it true that you need to be always-online for GoW Ragnarok?
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 worse, over 100 countries can't buy Ghost of Tsushima because of stupid PSN, even i can't buy it
@@GrumpyCat97 I can buy it, although at that price they can keep it.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 yep if you get offline, you are absolutely fucked as you can't play the game since it tracks the login info everytime u start the game. THANK GOD there's a mod called No PSN Login now
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 Yeah, i can't buy it in Serbia. Over 170 countries. Sony fans talk like we are against psn or something. But we literally don't have option to pay game. Piracy only option.
it will be the most bullshit thing ever if sonny who refused to port bloodborn all of a sudden remembers it ad decided to nuke the ps4 emulator
Let's see what happens.
And they still won’t make a pc port
The new zelda that just dropped just works on yuzu. Just imagine, as yuzu has been dead for months. Shows you just how epic an emulator it was.
pure clickbait and misleading information across the board. nobody take this video seriously.
yeah i dislike videos like this im on a hunt
bro sony doesn't care about ps4 emulation it's been 11 years, they're in fact desperate to get people to move over to ps5 finally. the switch is still current for nintendo
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i mean yes but still most ps games launch in both ps4 and ps5
@@karc4true, but you technically need offficial ps4 hardware to get the system software to run shadps4 properly.
Knowing the specs of the PS4 when it came out, I'm honestly surprised it wasn't emulated by the mid 2010's or so. And there's been a few emulators since around 2018-2019 but none of them went very far, except for Spine maybe (which weirdly enough was Linux exclusive).
I do think something will happen with Sony and ShadPS4, but i bet it will go same as the past when emulation was seen as legal, it just may result in roms being harder to find.
But beyond that, i'll refer to what Gabe Newell said about piracy: It's a service problem, and in the case of Sony, it's entirely on them if they are 'missing out' on money for PS4 titles (which is honestly impossible to actually prove for sure), the flood gates for PC ports have already been opened, and Bloodborne is almost a decade old by now, i don't understand why they haven't done anything with it, a PC port is the easiest money in the world but they prefer to throw $400M into the garbage bin with titles like Concord or remaster games that are already available everywhere and run perfectly fine like Horizon ZD.
So what you’re saying is we need to come up with a workaround script, gotcha.
So what there are other emulators like Ryujinx so screw Nintendo. And Bloodborne is almost fully playable so screw Sony as well.
2:09 This is incorrect. Around 70% of all ps3 games are considered playable, and a good amount of games that are only considered "in-game" are still fully playable at higher frame rates and resolution than the game would run on native hardware. So beatable ps3 on rpcs3 is closer to probably 80%.
The real reason that Sony didn't care about rpcs3 is because they stopped making any real money off of ps3 games. The one and only time that rpcs3 got in hot water is when Persona 5 released and the game was somewhat playable on rpcs3. ShadPS4 is in a similar position to rpcs3 in terms of game developers being nearly done with supporting ps4.
with every statement you make you demonstrate that you have little understanding of what you are talking about
The sole reason is ps4 uses x86 architecture almost same as PC, so its easier to emulate than rcps3 but rcps3 emulation is already there if you have the proper hardware, if your cpu is on the S tier list you should be good to go
I don't completely agree but you're entitled to your opinion
nintendo has always hated their user database.. they resell the same games over and over and then get mad when you emulate the games you bought 15+ years ago.
What sucks a lot is that people have the freedom to use emulators and are for the most part legal but if it messes with sells they'll blame the emulator when in reality it's Sonys fault mostly due to no enhancements or losing trust. I think it Sony does try to do something they'll get a lot of backlash and when people find out they'll lose more sells.
Every generation of council has been on the downturn. With the exception of a handheld like the switch or steam deck. People are simply buying computers. The days of councils being leaps and bounds ahead of PC or long behind them.
they haven't even added ps3 emulation natively in their consoles. I don't think they care
Ryu's dev couldn't be touched because he was in Brazil, under Brazilian law he was 100% safe from litigation, he was paid off with a bag of money.
They supposedly gave him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Agree. Sony just needs some far-fetched argument to open a court case even knowing they'd have no chance to win it. And the sheer amount of money you need to firmly stand in court is mind blowing. So Sony's hope would be for shadps4 devs to chicken out before the process even started like yuzu devs did.
I literally don't care it should have psn/multiplayer support as well. sony deserves go bankrupt. I hate them. adding some form of player ran or hosted decentralized multiplayer option is essential and would be even more of a middle finger to sony that they rightfully deserve.
you hate sony yet you want there games pirated 4 free ?
@@matamatosa8898 sony doesn't own all the games that run on there hardware, but yeah I hate them and refuse to give them money.
The only problem i can find about this is that people are being too loud about their progress, i guess it should be better if they could just remain in silence for long periods of time and then drop an update
I don't see spreading the rate of progress of shadps4 a bad thing unless they've done something illegal for sony to strike. In fact, it is a good thing to let other programmers contribute to the project, unlike gatekeeping it.
after nintendo took down Ryujinx, this video ain't bullshit no more
Because that emulator was also stealing Nintendo's encryption. Until someone makes a switch emulator with pure clean room code this will continue to happen.
Just stick to showcasing games, my dude. Because outside of that, you clearly have no knowledge of the things you talk about.
Yes bro there tone of emulator even you can windo in android and play pc game in my phone i can run resident evil 7 re 2 remake and 3 gta 5 and old games
I'd like to know why fpPS4 just went private recently?
rpsc3 is an amazing emulator with almost no issues for me, and the reason sony isn't shutting it down isn't because the emulator struggles to run exclusives, its because rpsc3 only gives a platform of emulation for the ps3, nothing more, they don't hand out pirated game files nor do they want anything to do with piracy. Yuzu on the other hand, were teaching people how to get the game running with illegal game files which sparked lawsuit between them and nintendo, along as shadps4 doesn't do anything cocky they will be just fine, however most people will probably pirate the game files from third party sources.
Oh yeah? What's your hardware?
Sony already lost one emulation lawsuit befor i dont think theyd attemp to stop any console emulation sony gives you the firmware legally so you just need to disk of the game and you. Can rip it
Yeah been playing older resistance games on RPCS3 lately and they’re ROUGH. I have a 3060ti with 11th gen i7k so not the best rig in the world but fairly respectable, and I’m legit getting 40fps at 1080p on certain gunfights in resistance 2.
Resistance 1 on the newest version of the emulator was so prone to CPU bottlenecks I was getting single digit FPS on the vehicle sections when tens of the little shit aliens came out. Going back to a later version fixed the issue but having regression in an emulator this far in just feels terrible
I hope I can actually play resistance 3 lol.
walk in front of a car and livestream it
Just saying but Sony is still on time for re-releasing their exclusives on PC (specially Bloodborne). Besides, current Sony isn't as protective as Nintendo when it comes to emulation from what I know. As for PS4 emulation being better on the long-term than RPCS3, it's a possibility but it will depend heavily on how much shadPS4 is being worked on a daily-basis.
you seem to forget ps4 emulation requires a very high end pc to run games well, would you rather pay over a 1000$ for a gaming pc or get a PS4 for 200-300?
Pay $1000 for a gaming PC that can emulate PS4 and everything below, can also run PC games, be able to pirate games, watch movies and work. Looks like consoles aren't an option here. And PS5 "exclusives" are no longer exclusives because they can be purchased on Steam. Console gaming is cooked. (Before you will say anything - i own a good gaming PC and PS3,4,5. Using PS5 only to play Gran Turismo in VR with steering wheel)
cant emulator makers just do it in a country where this companies dont have power?
The PS4 emulator devs should just wait for the PS4 to be discontinued (I know. It's going to be a long wait for that time to come.) before making too much progress in a short period of time in lieu of litigation.
Exactly.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 not nececcery if dev not from US/CANADA or EU and from 3rd world country than there nothing to worry about
It's amazing how many hate comments from clueless 10 year old angry kids you're getting in the comments section.
While you do have a point that the PS4 still represents a big part of Sony's revenue, I don't know if they would even try to throw another punch at emulation considering how they already did and it backfired on them 20 years or so ago. But hey, it's a big money hungry corporation. They will do anything for money like any other big, fat, greedy corporation, which sucks.
Yeah, the haters are trying their best to end this video. Apparently it's click-bait, which is surprising to me.
Look, this is how I see matters. Sony is already behaving in an anti-consumer fashion. I just have a distinct feeling that they might do something about PS4 emulation. Why wouldn't they?
I'm not saying it would be right, but any profit-driven company would try to maximize their revenue. They're already screwing customers over with that PSN account "thing". That indicates to me that they have no regard for public opinion.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760 I hope you're not right, but yeah, it is very likely. Whoever believes that they are not capable of doing such a thing is completely delusional.
Sony wont care at all, pcsx2 has been around when ps2 was still selling. Pointless and waste of resources plus shadps4 requires a powerful gpu which most people dont have anyway 😂
It doesn't work this way. If the emulator does not infringe on the IP then they can't do anything,,,, Even if they are not happy,
shadPS4 is not using Sony SDK as far as I am aware, nor it is using any other tooling
So no, they cannot shut it down on a whim.
Shadps4 is fine PlayStation don’t care link Nintendo does
Nintendo fucked ryujinx too
It's a good thing we can emulate switch games but the problem is that people who can buy the game look for pirated versions for switch or any other pc games. Which is a bad thing. People whin about games being costly yet they have a pc setup of 1000$+ what an irony. Play the pirates games if you like it then consider buying it to support and show love to developers
Yeah, you're right. The game is coming to Steam, so it makes me wonder why people want to play it on ShadPS4.
@@n-tertainmentx-tended4760Yup All the major PS4 games are already available. There is no point of using this emulator
@@John-Doe-Lorem-Ipsum speak for your self. DmC Definitive Edition never been released to PC
"People whin about games being costly yet they have a pc setup of 1000$+ what an irony"
How is that irony?
You can get a decent gaming PC for lke $600-$700 (And you can actually use it for much more than gaming which already makes it better than consoles)
Also games aren't costly on PC, they're really cheap, you can buy hundreds of good games for cheap on PC anytime you want
What isn't cheap are older console games which can go for hundreds of dollars but that really only matters if you're a purist and don't want to mod your systems or use flashcarts
I have a 3k pc , give me money and I wont pirate games , if not go cry about it .
nah they should continue getting better
X86 pode ser o motivo nesse raro caso, realmente muito rápido.
A Sony lança muitos remasters de jogos desnecessários do PlayStation 4 , por isso o lado bom que avança a emulação teremos uma qualidade gráfica melhor sem pagar mais por isso com shaders e packs de texturas sem custo adicional, igual sony esta fazendo é uma roubalheira.
I just want to be able to play DriveClub again!
I have it ready on my PC, all DLC too. Just waiting for progress
Fake video talking alout of bull dooodoo everyone will always buy games and consoles whats terrible the company's attacking emulations they don't know it preserve games and motivate people to buy their games and consoles
What? Sony / Fromsoft refuses to Remaster it or give it a PS5 Upgrade. Everybody wants a Bloodborne PC version and they don't acknowledge it
Wow you really dropped the ball on this one. Here take a pity comment because I feel bad for you if your this desperate for views that you'd be so blatantly wrong lol yikes.
RCPS3 runs games in 4K on my 2070 max q laptop I say its pretty good
Really? Can you run Infamous 2? What about God of War 3? Last of Us maybe?
It requires a fast cpu not gpu, ps4 emulation requires a powerful gpu. But yeah rcps3 already runs great
Who will win ? Chad PS4 or Virgin PS3 ?
Create a PS5 emulator, and watch the fanboys weep!
No need most of the games are already on pc spiderman 2 in january 😂