Margaret Has to Step Down from Her Royal Duties | The Crown (Olivia Colman, Helena Bonham Carter)

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  • Margaret is told to step down from her role as the counselor of state now that Prince Edward has turned 21. Margaret (Helena Bonham Carter) asks Elizabeth (Olivia Colman) not to take that away because she needs a purpose.
    From Season 4, Episode 7: The Hereditary Principle
    Stream The Crown on Netflix! www.netflix.com/us/title/8002...
    The Crown is based on Queen Elizabeth II as a young newlywed faced with leading the world's most famous monarchy while forging a relationship with legendary Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill. The British Empire is in decline, and the political world is in disarray, but a new era is dawning. Peter Morgan's masterfully researched scripts reveal the Queen's private journey behind the public façade with daring frankness. Prepare to see into the coveted world of power and privilege behind the locked doors of Westminster and Buckingham Palace.
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  • @LifeAccordingtoMaria
    @LifeAccordingtoMaria Місяць тому +326

    Helena Bonham Carter always brings a top performance to anything she does. This scene amongst the sisters is amazing to watch.

    • @user-cf7pe3qg1c
      @user-cf7pe3qg1c 25 днів тому +3

      And she never took an acting lesson!

    • @minerva8906
      @minerva8906 13 днів тому

      "hello him" lmao

    • @paulwild3676
      @paulwild3676 12 днів тому

      HBC is brilliant in everything. Terrific in Nolly.

  • @Ben-en3mn
    @Ben-en3mn Місяць тому +435

    "He's an immature useless boy"
    "Yes that may be"
    Edward getting disrespected by his own Mother XD

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Місяць тому +63

      Hey, at least he didn't turn out like Andrew.

    • @vanillaaudio185
      @vanillaaudio185 Місяць тому +31

      Well…at least he’s not Andrew

    • @Edwards-Videos
      @Edwards-Videos Місяць тому +5

      It's a show, not real life.

    • @craftforfun36
      @craftforfun36 Місяць тому +5

      This is a disrespectful adaptation of our Royal Family I hate Olivia Colman for portraying our Queen in my opinion The Crown is the biggest piece of bullshit ever written second only to Bridgerton

    • @craftforfun36
      @craftforfun36 Місяць тому +4

      Are you for real please don’t tell me 🥴🤭🤭🤭you believe this is factual

  • @onaokeke3267
    @onaokeke3267 Місяць тому +98

    I just love the way Elizabeth always be fidgeting/trembling whenever she had to deliver bad news to Margaret..lol..such good acting..with both the younger and older actresses..

  • @rickbloke17CR
    @rickbloke17CR Місяць тому +275

    "So....What do you want? It can't be good news or you wouldn't have brought Lurch"
    😂😂😂

    • @minerva8906
      @minerva8906 13 днів тому +1

      i actually laughed so loud in office

    • @EnforcerX71
      @EnforcerX71 5 днів тому +1

      Good to know that Princess Margaret was a fan of the Addams Family.

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 Місяць тому +157

    "Friend of Dorothy's " I think it means gay guy.

    • @allshookup1640
      @allshookup1640 Місяць тому +48

      It does
      A friend of Dorothy’s is a subtle way to refer to someone as queer. It was (at least in the US) a way to ask if someone was queer that wouldn’t out them. If you asked a man if he was a friend of Dorothy’s and he didn’t know what you were talking about you got your answer and you weren’t in danger of being attacked for “insulting” him. It just seemed like you were genuinely asking if he was friends with a woman named Dorothy that you knew. The asker also wasn’t at risk of being exposed as queer and being attacked. I bet it worked that way in the UK too I just can’t say for sure.

    • @02june80
      @02june80 Місяць тому +29

      “Which [‘queen’] [are you referring to] - my sister, my mother or my husband?”
      - Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon’s alleged response to an enquiry on how the Queen was at a function in New York City (NYC).

    • @bananamanchester4156
      @bananamanchester4156 Місяць тому +37

      Why Dorothy, you may ask? Well the actress who played Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, Judy Garland was a huge advocate for the LGBT+ community in a time when being gay or being supportive of the community was EXTREMELY taboo, so they loved her dearly (still do, I believe!)

    • @deananthony1000
      @deananthony1000 Місяць тому +3

      @@bananamanchester4156. Nowadays most don’t know who she is. The love moved to Liza and they done even know her now

    • @deananthony1000
      @deananthony1000 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@allshookup1640 it was popular in the U.K. but not now. Are you a friend of Dorothy seems to have been replaced with are you bisexual ? Not sure if it’s myth or urban legend but apparently the USA secret service spent MILLIONS trying to track down Dorothy believing her to be a actual person so they could have a massive clear out of the gays in the military for once and all.

  • @thomasdalton1508
    @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому +43

    Charities may have preferred the exciting new princess, but there are always more charities wanting royal patrons than can be accommodated so she would never have found it difficult to find patronages. Indeed, she had a great many right up until she died.

  • @intorainbowzOG
    @intorainbowzOG Місяць тому +82

    Charles changed the rules. He kept Anne and Edward in their places.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Місяць тому

      what are you talking about?

    • @SCGMLB
      @SCGMLB Місяць тому +39

      @@glen7318The Councellors of State are normally the spouse of the Sovereign and the next four people in the line of succession who are at least eighteen years of age.
      Currently that would be: Camilla, William, Harry, Andrew, and Beatrice.
      The same provision that was used in 1953 to retain the Queen Mother as an additional Councellor of State, when she was no longer the spouse of the sovereign, was used to retain Anne and Edward.
      What’s interesting is why that same provision couldn’t have been used to retain Margaret. It makes me think that there were members of The Firm who didn’t care for Margaret.

    • @CrossCuntyRic
      @CrossCuntyRic Місяць тому +13

      @@SCGMLB like one of the commenters said, parliament was different back then. They were more willing to extend the leniency to the Queen Mother because she used to be the queen herself. Margaret was the spare.
      That was the same era where male heirs are given priority over females regardless of birth order. It's a different era now. So we can't retroactively judge why Margaret was removed as a counselor based on what King Charles did in the 21st century.

    • @magpiesneedle2575
      @magpiesneedle2575 Місяць тому +8

      @@SCGMLBwell, Harry and Andrew are no longer senior royals, or working royals.

    • @gworlp1142
      @gworlp1142 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@CrossCuntyRicbut male- centric primogeniture had been relinquished by the time Queen Elizabeth II was on the throne or else she wouldn’t have been selected as Queen so what is the tea?

  • @christianvallejo3725
    @christianvallejo3725 Місяць тому +56

    “ANOTHER friend of Dorothy’s” 😂

    • @boxsterman77
      @boxsterman77 Місяць тому +9

      I caught that.

    • @davidboult4143
      @davidboult4143 Місяць тому +1

      ""Friends of Dorothy" make up the bulk of the Royal entourage. They tend to be loyal, and unencumbered by children and family commitments.

    • @deananthony1000
      @deananthony1000 Місяць тому +1

      Sadly the royals never stood up for the gays but they were big supporters. Buckingham palace and Clarence House was a safe space and had the best gay parties which couldn’t be raided by the police. Apparently It all started with the queen mother who went out of her way to employ friends of Dorothy so her 2 young princesses wouldn’t get pregnant by a commoner.

    • @devilsfavorite999
      @devilsfavorite999 Місяць тому +1

      But in real life she was homophobic

  • @blaire519
    @blaire519 Місяць тому +44

    What I like about this scene is the ticking clock in the background when Margaret is complaining about time

  • @michaelterry1000
    @michaelterry1000 Місяць тому +92

    Edward turned 21 in March of 1985. Margaret must have know this was coming.

    • @kbob9625
      @kbob9625 Місяць тому +3

      If you watched the clip you would have seen that they have a set number and she was u aware that it was capped at 6.

    • @michaelterry1000
      @michaelterry1000 Місяць тому +11

      @@kbob9625 Someone else was #7 before Edward turned 21 and Margaret would have observed that person’s limited role in the Royal family.
      Wouldn’t Margaret have observed this 6 cap earlier ?
      Everyone in the royal family must have reevaluated their roles every time the queen had another child.
      I still find it hard to believe that she was caught off guard as to what was happening.

    • @kbob9625
      @kbob9625 Місяць тому +2

      @@michaelterry1000 Not if there wasnt someone in the royal family of age who was also in line for the throne... I mean they literally explain it that it's an obscure law that they werent really aware of except for the historians.

    • @michaelterry1000
      @michaelterry1000 Місяць тому +1

      @@kbob9625 Ok, I really enjoyed this series and will watch it again. If the series took liberties here on this issue to make another point about Margaret's dissatisfaction with her position, then so be it. If not, that is also ok.

  • @WarriorOfWriters
    @WarriorOfWriters 9 днів тому +8

    "Edward's an immature useless boy" to this bloody day

  • @johannamurphy9607
    @johannamurphy9607 Місяць тому +68

    That's why she drank ! She had resentment

    • @angelareimann6433
      @angelareimann6433 Місяць тому +12

      She was a party girl way before that.

    • @socratesporter
      @socratesporter 27 днів тому +2

      I think she partied because of resentment

    • @nylotus
      @nylotus 22 дні тому +2

      @@angelareimann6433 Before what? She was treated like shit from day 1. In my opinion she would've been better off leaving with the man she loved

    • @sarahmurphy8030
      @sarahmurphy8030 19 днів тому +2

      ​@@nylotus..Margaret was brought up Royal and she knew the rules.

  • @Zenobiadream
    @Zenobiadream Місяць тому +15

    Helena is an absolute joy to watch on screen. She’s sooooooo good! Eats up
    Every scene.

  • @Dekins
    @Dekins Місяць тому +5

    Every word and sound I heard from Margaret (Helena) , I see the Red Queen with my eyes closed

  • @pinkosmondfan
    @pinkosmondfan Місяць тому +45

    I love their, "Hello, You." "And, hello...Him." LOL

  • @michauxborns
    @michauxborns Місяць тому +11

    Margaret would've known about this Rule of Succession, as the Queen also would have...

  • @chriw5575
    @chriw5575 Місяць тому +128

    Princess Margaret always got the short end of the stick

    • @karenalexanderful
      @karenalexanderful Місяць тому +35

      She also had a life of immense privilege.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 Місяць тому +20

      ​@@karenalexanderfulOne doesn't negate the other. By that logic nobody could complain about anything at all because someone has had it worse.

    • @williethomas5116
      @williethomas5116 Місяць тому +15

      That's the thing about being the spare. They prepare you for the big chair just in case then they dump you. They create narcissist and then act surprised when they don't go away meakly.

    • @Ann12681
      @Ann12681 Місяць тому +13

      More often than not, Margaret was self indulged and scandal ridden. The Queen, who is portrayed cruelly, devoted her life to the people of Britain , even though she would have preferred to be a country wife. From the time of her mid twenties her life wasn’t her own. Margaret had the freedom and the privilege of being the second child and chose to blame her sister for whatever went wrong in her life due to her own recklessness.

    • @allshookup1640
      @allshookup1640 Місяць тому +7

      @@Ann12681 well Elizabeth was never meant to be Queen. That wasn’t how her life was supposed to go. She was supposed to be the daughter of the Duke of York and live her life as a noble person. But when Edward abdicated, everything changed. She was 10 years old when he abdicated and her entire life changed. Then it was clear that she would be monarch one day. She had to be prepared. She didn’t get to be a little princess anymore, she was a Queen in training. Her childhood was cut short and an INSANE amount of responsibility and expectation was dumped on her. Her father as well as he had to immediately become King but that’s a different can of worms.
      Queen Elizabeth held her own and proved she was capable of the responsibility. She learned and she ruled with dignity. She was loved very much. By the vast majority of the British public. She took the cards she was dealt and played an excellent game until the end.

  • @lordalessan
    @lordalessan Місяць тому +100

    They couldn’t let her have Peter because of her duty but they couldn’t give her that either. And they wonder why she went crazy.

    • @02june80
      @02june80 Місяць тому +16

      No, the fact is Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties.
      Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden did agree to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend.
      In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife.
      Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!”
      However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it.
      “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage.
      But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others.
      I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.”
      - Monday, 31st October 1955
      What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.

    • @allshookup1640
      @allshookup1640 Місяць тому +13

      She didn’t “go crazy.” She had legitimate mental health issues as well as substance abuse problems. Not to mention ENORMOUS amounts of stress in her life. She wasn’t crazy. She just needed help and support that she didn’t get

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Місяць тому +1

      @@allshookup1640 terrible stress

    • @sadjaxx
      @sadjaxx Місяць тому +6

      Oh please, they use this made up excuse every single time when in fact the poor woman had no choice whatsoever.

    • @robertbarrett2494
      @robertbarrett2494 Місяць тому

      Her roller coaster with Tony Jones .

  • @charlottestella9427
    @charlottestella9427 Місяць тому +12

    “Edward’s an immature useless boy!”
    “That may be”
    Bahahaha

    • @jenniferdaniels701
      @jenniferdaniels701 Місяць тому +3

      When you're in your 40's, someone who's in their early twenties is still a kid.

  • @King6y
    @King6y Місяць тому +8

    The Best Of The Best Video

  • @golden-63
    @golden-63 Місяць тому +4

    "Another friend of Dorothy's"
    If you know, you know!

  • @jeffreysalley
    @jeffreysalley Місяць тому +9

    Just step down from being a senior royal and do what you want. You only have one life. Why be miserable?

  • @hera7884
    @hera7884 Місяць тому +47

    Judy Garland was an avid civil rights and lgbtq activist. She also played Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. When they say, “Friend of Dorothy” they’re subtly implying that the person is LGBTQ

  • @taymur0804
    @taymur0804 Місяць тому +6

    The way she said "Time"😂

  • @robfalter2522
    @robfalter2522 Місяць тому +8

    no use for royalty. all of them egomaniacs

  • @catherineomondi7850
    @catherineomondi7850 Місяць тому +62

    This was Harry's future. This is the future for all the spares. Yet they get angry when he leaves. He saw what happened to all the spares and he walked away before he became this.

    • @typical_snowflake
      @typical_snowflake Місяць тому +9

      Yes but he walked away for bad reasons and on pressure. Not really light minded and decided. Harry must be really lonely right now. He is an english man to the core. He must miss his country horribly.

    • @catherineomondi7850
      @catherineomondi7850 Місяць тому

      @@typical_snowflake You really want this to be true, don't you? You want him to miss you. You want this to be a mistake made for bad reasons and pressure. You want him to be lonely. Poor snowflake. There is enough evidence to show that Harry actually wanted to leave a long time ago. He never liked life in the royal family, and Meghan just made him believe it was possible. She was the push he needed, but she didn't plant any seeds. The seed has always been there, she just watered it.

    • @jeffreysalley
      @jeffreysalley Місяць тому +8

      You only have one life. Why be miserable?

    • @davidboult4143
      @davidboult4143 Місяць тому +10

      Princess Anne seems to have coped remarkably well. Made of sterner stuff, perchance?

    • @jeffreysalley
      @jeffreysalley Місяць тому +10

      @@davidboult4143 not everyone want their life to be about coping. Some people want to thrive.

  • @thomasdalton1508
    @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому +13

    You would think they would look it up before writing this scene. There are five counsellors of state, not six. The consort and the next four in line to the throne that are over 21 (or over 18 for the Prince of Wales).

    • @ShadrolGER
      @ShadrolGER Місяць тому +5

      Yes under the Regency Act of 1937 there are only 5 councillors of state.
      But at that point in time there were 6, just as there are 7 now. The Queen Mother was the sixth councillor appointed by the Regency Act of 1953. Princess Anne and Orince Edward by the Councillors of State Act of 2022.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому +2

      @@ShadrolGER But, that is problematic for the point the scene is trying to make. If the rules could be changed to keep the Queen Mother on the list after she should have left it, they could have been changed for Princess Margaret too. The claim that the 1937 Act sets a limit of six is untrue both in that it isn't really a limit and it isn't six.

    • @fahimfaisalmahir567
      @fahimfaisalmahir567 Місяць тому

      @@thomasdalton1508 Queen Mother was a former Queen consort who was a formidable figure in British history unlike her scandalous, spoilt brat daughter.

    • @davidboult4143
      @davidboult4143 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@thomasdalton1508it's called dramatic licence. It is fiction, not reality.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому

      @@davidboult4143 Dramatic license is for situations where you have to bend the truth in order to tell the story you want to tell. This was completely unnecessary. It wouldn't have hurt the story at all to get it right. This is just laziness.

  • @albdamned577
    @albdamned577 Місяць тому +4

    lol “I have the maturity and wisdom” yep like she deserved the position because of it…

  • @stevebbuk9557
    @stevebbuk9557 23 дні тому +1

    She should have thought about the longstanding effects of the damage to her reputation when she was cavorting with Roddy Llewellyn in Mustique.

  • @llchapman1234
    @llchapman1234 Місяць тому +4

    All Margaret had to do was find some unseemly, questionable new charitable thing and Boom! Royal duties resumed, lol!

  • @dynamoninja8510
    @dynamoninja8510 Місяць тому +4

    Lurch😂😂😂😂 😂 0:47

  • @Koalatronic
    @Koalatronic Місяць тому +4

    She could always have got an actual job or volunteered at a charity to fill her time

  • @joyj6702
    @joyj6702 23 дні тому

    I know this just a series but m so delighted wht marget went through after wht she puts diana

  • @KathleenMcNe
    @KathleenMcNe 19 днів тому +2

    Helena Bonham Carter is a national treasure.

  • @nancyaguirre2307
    @nancyaguirre2307 Місяць тому +3

    All she ever wanted was the spotlight and the attention without the responsibilities.

  • @robertbarrett2494
    @robertbarrett2494 Місяць тому +2

    A dark room at No 10 KP .

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 4 дні тому

    Elizabeth couldn’t even look her in the eye when the man was speaking. Sheesh, what a meek showing from her here.

  • @King6y
    @King6y Місяць тому +6

    WOW

  • @user-lk9ci9pg8r
    @user-lk9ci9pg8r Місяць тому +2

    Cant always get what you want.

  • @user-ne3yw2cu6c
    @user-ne3yw2cu6c Місяць тому +260

    Whats the point of being Queen if Elizabeth has to "follow rules"? Poor Margaret, I feel her pain.

    • @wendysnelgrove5870
      @wendysnelgrove5870 Місяць тому +87

      It's the difference between an absolute monarchy and a constitutional monarchy.

    • @calarch78
      @calarch78 Місяць тому +46

      It’s very unlikely that any of this would have been shocking. All of these responsibilities and provisions were known by everyone involved. Princess Margaret would’ve been well aware. The dramatization is just to create an existential crisis for this character.

    • @02june80
      @02june80 Місяць тому +19

      @@calarch78: Yes, the serial “The Crown” NEVER even claimed to be a historical documentary in the first place anyway.

    • @jasonkoch3182
      @jasonkoch3182 Місяць тому +13

      @@calarch78actually, there is some truth to this. Obviously the scene is fictional, but reports at the time said Margaret was devastated when she lost her counselor of state position.

    • @jasonkoch3182
      @jasonkoch3182 Місяць тому +13

      It’s those rules that keep the monarchy alive. The monarch is merely a pawn for the sitting government. The royal family follows the rules, or the government cuts off the money.

  • @beaubrent
    @beaubrent Місяць тому +2

    I wish to step down from my royal duties, as well.

  • @nadinefay1560
    @nadinefay1560 10 днів тому

    Oh, it’s a complicated world.

  • @nexttsar
    @nexttsar 17 днів тому +1

    I certainly can commiserate here. She needs a purpose and all she gets is endless time and unfilled days. It is the lot of many of us over 65.

    • @nancyblackett8777
      @nancyblackett8777 11 днів тому +1

      Stop loafing around feeling sorry for yourself. Volunteer. Work part time. Go and learn something. Talk to people. Easy.

  • @JamesCook-kh1tl
    @JamesCook-kh1tl 6 днів тому

    Astonished she didn’t know this

  • @divinity176
    @divinity176 Місяць тому +6

    Maggie realising back then what Harry is having trouble reconciling himself to now - once the hereditary kids come along, the siblings that were hitherto always in the picture get pushed out of frame. As far as tragedies go, not something people with actual problems might find much empathy for.

    • @ABC_DEF
      @ABC_DEF 25 днів тому

      Harry and Margaret have nothing in common besides being second children. Harry refused to do his royal duties and betrayed his family for money. Margaret did all her duties and was loyal.

  • @joshuakampamba9061
    @joshuakampamba9061 Місяць тому +16

    i feel her pain 😭 oh poor woman, Margaret

    • @nancyaguirre2307
      @nancyaguirre2307 Місяць тому

      Oh poor baby. She did what she wanted. She could have married the guy she had an affair with but she’d have had to give up the privilege. We saw what was more important. She was a spoiled brat.

  • @jeffwalsh6015
    @jeffwalsh6015 25 днів тому

    Had no idea the British (especially the RF) used the expressions Friend of Dorothy or Lurch, lol.

  • @LucyLovettLestrange
    @LucyLovettLestrange Місяць тому +1

    “Lurch” in this scene was Micheal Gregson in Downton Abbey! ( lady Edith’s first lover)

    • @melynn44
      @melynn44 Місяць тому +1

      What's funny is he plays Martin Charteris, who is played in his younger form by the actor who plays Lady Edith's husband. Guess she has a type.

    • @LucyLovettLestrange
      @LucyLovettLestrange Місяць тому

      @@melynn44 That’s right! Two different actors from Downton Abbey played the same character

  • @samanthab1923
    @samanthab1923 Місяць тому +5

    Who are the 6 senior royals?

    • @feverspell
      @feverspell Місяць тому +5

      The Queen Mother, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew, and Prince Edward.

  • @marywenzel3199
    @marywenzel3199 Місяць тому +3

    In a case like this, the monarchy shoots itself in the foot. It makes no operational sense at all for experienced senior Royals on the COS to make way for young adults who are still at school and completely inexperienced at doing engagements. That’s like firing all your senior VPs in a company and replacing them with new grads who know absolutely nothing. It’s not even a case of them working cheaper because all full time working Royals are supported by the Sovereign grant. Anne and Edward had to make way in their turn for Charles’ sons. William was the future monarch but who thinks that 21-year old wild child Harry was more of an asset than Edward became with more maturity? The Man who became the Duke of Edinburgh after his father is now indispensable, and thank God that king Charles is more willing to buck tradition then his mother was; faced with two completely useless Knobheads in Andrew and Harry, Charles reinstated his other two siblings to the COS. Harry doesn’t even live in the country any more and was NEVER entrusted with any jobs on behalf of HM during his tenure, now officially 18 years long. He is an every sense a worthless paper counselor. Charles has not taken the unprecedented step of removing his wayward son, But effectively Harry is out. It remains to be seen whether king William will retain his aunt and uncle permanently even after his own children come of age. Because technically Anne and Edward would have to step down after George and Charlotte reach 21. But that is a very poor personnel management strategy, Considering how few Royals are actually left that qualify. I think this rule came about centuries ago when people did not live as long, and 21 year olds were more capable. The late Queen was never one to defy her courtiers when it came to tradition, but a good many of her family members would have been far happier and more effective if she had. Her late Majesty was a remarkably humble person considering her station, not one to make scenes and without the stomach for rocking the boat. Like her father she was a stickler for the constitutional protocols. She did her best but some points of archaic law do not serve the current Royal forces well at all. Charles is perceived as stuffy but really within his sphere he is an iconoclast. Adding seats to the COS; getting his second wife declared Queen; promoting organic farming on Royal estates and flinging open Royal properties to the public for free tea rooms- Charles is in his way quite innovative. Innovation was not in the Queen’s wheelhouse, God rest her blessed memory.

    • @sadjaxx
      @sadjaxx Місяць тому +1

      Somebody here is terribly jealous of Harry.

    • @fahimfaisalmahir567
      @fahimfaisalmahir567 Місяць тому

      Queen was always very scared of public heat while Charles had endured that all his life. So, he didn't give damn about public scrutiny.

    • @marywenzel3199
      @marywenzel3199 Місяць тому

      @@sadjaxx If you mean me, you couldn’t be more wrong dear. Our Harry is quite a few sandwiches short of a full picnic basket. Absolutely nothing to be jealous about, unless it’s envying Harry’s ability to still be supported by Daddy at 40 years of age when he’s done nothing all his life except abuse substances, animals and women. I find the ginger whinger personally disgusting but I guess he’s got his supporters like you no matter how quizzical that is.

    • @ej3016
      @ej3016 Місяць тому

      @@fahimfaisalmahir567 and that’s why some of us don’t give a damn about him now

  • @stephanfourie6879
    @stephanfourie6879 Місяць тому +1

    Olivia and Helen are equally as good as Meryl❤❤

  • @colinm4
    @colinm4 3 дні тому

    Margaret would have been aware of this situation for decades and this news would not have come as a surprise.

  • @chadbarr5365
    @chadbarr5365 7 днів тому

    There's no way Margaret wouldn't have known that this was coming and that the number was 6.

  • @Lucky55Blue
    @Lucky55Blue Місяць тому +2

    She lost her man. I would have gone insane. Take anything but my husband is mine.

  • @adamthevirgo9297
    @adamthevirgo9297 6 днів тому

    “He’s an immature useless boy?”
    “Yes that may be, but we have to play by the rules.“
    The fact that she agreed 🤣🤣🤣

  • @AMD7027
    @AMD7027 Місяць тому

    It shows the insanity of it all as if they wanted to the act could be amended, a non-controversial addition of “siblings of the Sovereign” as Councilors of State would be speedily approved.

  • @angelareimann6433
    @angelareimann6433 Місяць тому +23

    Plenty of things she could have done. Spoilt and easily bored. She refused to follow basic protocols and wanted excitement without responsibility and effort. The Queen had her hands full with a dramatic sister and a controlling mother.

  • @London1869
    @London1869 День тому

    One of the most privileged humans to ever draw breath...wrought with ennui.

  • @sikandermallu
    @sikandermallu Місяць тому

    Margaret's children were literally persona non grata ever since "Moondust". Was their 'disappearing act' in this series a metaphor to their relationship with their mother?

  • @Afroman29
    @Afroman29 6 днів тому

    "Can't be good news, otherwise, you wouldn't have brought Lurch". Nice to see Margaret watching the Addams Family. I feel bad for Margaret, she was always let down my the Royals.

  • @Dornwild
    @Dornwild 18 днів тому

    Even if this happened as dramatical as this in real life, it would be very illogical to suddenly realising Prince Edward is turning 21 and his Aunt has to step down... Like everyone has forgotten a rule that magically popped up out of nowhere. It's hard to believe it hadn't been talked about for a longer period of time...

  • @franklesser5655
    @franklesser5655 Місяць тому +2

    I think it's unfair to stop Margaret to step down from her royal duties. I think she should be allowed to continue because she is really good at what she does.

    • @fahimfaisalmahir567
      @fahimfaisalmahir567 Місяць тому

      Well, only 6 people are allowed..Since Edward came of age, Margaret had to step down.

    • @jeffwalsh6015
      @jeffwalsh6015 25 днів тому +1

      They really made Marg step down because she was a lush.

  • @gwp5066
    @gwp5066 Місяць тому +15

    the councillor of state doesn't do much, and Margaret understood how the system worked. I doubt this is even remotely true.

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому +1

      Indeed, she would certainly have known that she would be replaced. And the Queen didn't leave the country all that often.

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Місяць тому

      of course it is not true

    • @roberthancox
      @roberthancox Місяць тому +3

      Have watched some of the episodes all the way through. It looks very expensively made and a bit of good acting but as far as historical accuracy is concerned it is ridiculous and panders to those who are anti monarchy, the intention of the person who created the series as he is rampantly anti monarchy, check him out

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому +1

      @@roberthancox Little is completely invented, but there are a lot of rumours presented as facts. I wish they had at least included a statement at the end of each episode stating which bits were true and which were dramatised.

    • @beccamcdonald9846
      @beccamcdonald9846 Місяць тому

      You really don’t understand how many grimy things the Queen has done to Margret behind Margret’s back.

  • @user-sp5fr7nv1e
    @user-sp5fr7nv1e Місяць тому

    Well we missed lorry drivers n bus drivers n care workers

  • @ceejay6553
    @ceejay6553 19 днів тому

    This has to be "true" ... which is why Princess Anne is still working, K Charles learned. I can't see her going quietly into the night.

  • @mistybethune9116
    @mistybethune9116 4 дні тому

    i believe this has been changed isnt it now can be other members of the royal family at the monarchs discretion

  • @manramen
    @manramen Місяць тому

    None of them HAVE TO do anything. Lot of the firm in real life saying their hands are tied when they do some messed up shit. Literally that they removed one person from position due to birth and not merit.

  • @Paulofibonelli
    @Paulofibonelli Місяць тому +7

    Lurch 🤣

  • @JS-ss6ig
    @JS-ss6ig 2 дні тому

    The queen sitting there squirming, shame on the queen.

  • @petraskvarc317
    @petraskvarc317 22 дні тому

    I’m so confused😮which prince edward? Whose son was he?

  • @britishchappie2852
    @britishchappie2852 Місяць тому +1

    The fact that the queen knew the term friend of Dorothy but the us army didn’t is kinda funny

    • @deananthony1000
      @deananthony1000 Місяць тому +1

      The queen mother went out of her way to employ F O D as a way to prevent liz and Madge getting pregnant by the staff. So they always been big supporters of the gays with the best parties and orgies at buk palace and Clarence House. It’s just a shame they didn’t speak up more when we needed them.

    • @danielkoher1944
      @danielkoher1944 Місяць тому

      @@deananthony1000
      Thank you so much Dean we’ve been so insignificantly treated.
      Have given so much.
      Yet, always target 🎯 come any change to ‘their’ agenda.

  • @iasunfloweriasunflower6703
    @iasunfloweriasunflower6703 11 годин тому

    Princess Margaret was so screwed...

  • @user-sv7fd6es6s
    @user-sv7fd6es6s Місяць тому +10

    I feel so bad for Margaret, she always got the short end of the stick, no wonder she drank and smoked so much.

    • @kingmalric
      @kingmalric 8 днів тому +1

      Margaret was a spoiled, petulant and rude brat that never grew out of her teenaged years. She had privilege and wealth that almost anybody else would cherish, but it wasn't enough for her. She had to be the star of the show, never mind her complete lack of temperament or discretion that would made her a disaster as Queen. Thank god she was born second.

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 4 дні тому +1

      She had freedom the queen never had.

  • @danielkoher1944
    @danielkoher1944 Місяць тому

    0:48 Why are you always expecting an evil villainess 😂 to pop out of Helena Bonham Carter?
    I have no clue.
    Shall we ask Tim Burton?
    GOOD GAAAWWWD! 🤭🤫🤭

    • @danielkoher1944
      @danielkoher1944 Місяць тому

      1:56 Well, there’s the Red Queen blood 🩸 boiling!
      ♥️ it!

  • @gratialake8459
    @gratialake8459 Місяць тому +1

    A lot of fiction was used making this, as only the late Queen and Margaret in the room, who’s to say what was really said.

  • @thedukeofswellington1827
    @thedukeofswellington1827 Місяць тому

    for every george vi you get an edward viii; for every victoria you get an edward vii

    • @jeffwalsh6015
      @jeffwalsh6015 25 днів тому +1

      For every Diana you get a horseface Camilla.

  • @markc-ru4qz
    @markc-ru4qz Місяць тому +81

    This is nonsense Margaret loathed most of her royal "duties" starting when she was 18 and preferred her charitable work which she mostly did quietly. The Crown takes too many artistic liberties.

    • @jshipp5469
      @jshipp5469 Місяць тому +3

      You’re right but they had to do something with her arch. I mean we are being honest she had a personality more similar to her uncle Edward VIII

    • @markc-ru4qz
      @markc-ru4qz Місяць тому +2

      @@jshipp5469 yes but her royal duties were mostly cutting ribbons and launching ships hardly things to moan over. The Queen Mother even had to tell her to smile and look interested.

    • @SchweitzerMan
      @SchweitzerMan Місяць тому +26

      The biggest mistake someone can make is forgetting that this is historical fiction and mistaking it for a documentary

    • @battleford3574
      @battleford3574 Місяць тому

      Loving a title and loving a duty are two different things.

    • @KatefilmNYC
      @KatefilmNYC 24 дні тому

      Agree. This conversation, like many in the Crown just doesn't ring true. It wouldn't be a surprise to her if Edward were to take on duties as a senior royal that would replace her (if this is actually true)

  • @rr7firefly
    @rr7firefly Місяць тому

    These rules that the Royal Family were patently ridiculous at times. Shuffling members about because of the rules... tsk, tsk.
    Margaret should have pitched a bigger fit to knock some sense into her older sister. The one who always surrenders to pointless protocol.

    • @fahimfaisalmahir567
      @fahimfaisalmahir567 Місяць тому +2

      The protocols have been designed by the parliament. The rule book can only be amended only if the cabinet wants.

  • @kensis25
    @kensis25 Місяць тому

    LURCH😂

  • @Nana-vi4rd
    @Nana-vi4rd 13 днів тому +4

    This really irks me, not the show but about the real Princess Margaret believing that because she was the Queen's sister she should be allowed to marry whom she wanted. We all know how Edward gave up the throne to marry a twice divorced woman. What made Margaret believe it would be different for her? Her sister, the Queen was the head of the church of England. Which at that time forbade anyone marrying a person who was divorced with their former spouse still alive to marry. And that guy whom Margaret was so in love with knew this having served Princess Margaret's father and knowing how he came to the throne. And Margaret knew this as well, but she truly thought because she was the Queen's sister she would get what she wanted. I am so glad that the late Queen stuck to the rules of the church and not give into her sister's whims. It showed she had strength to up hold the rules for all of them.

  • @joeb5080
    @joeb5080 Місяць тому +3

    The law's the law, lady. Find something else to do.

  • @mrsbluesky8415
    @mrsbluesky8415 Місяць тому +10

    Sheesh, they couldn’t find a role for her ? Seems improbable so it must be they didn’t want her.

    • @allshookup1640
      @allshookup1640 Місяць тому +1

      Sadly, legally they couldn’t as a senior Royal. The Regency act they referred to only allows for 6 Chancellors. So that was at the time the Queen Mother, Prince Phillip, Prince Charles, Princess Anne, Prince Andrew, and Prince Edward. She was still Royal and still in the family. She just couldn’t be a Chancellor of State. She couldn’t represent the Crown.
      The current Chancellors of State are Queen Camilla, Prince William, Princess Anne, Prince Edward for sure. Next technically would be Prince Andrew, Prince Harry, then Princess Beatrice, but none of them are working Royals. Prince Andrew has been stripped of his titles (rightfully so), Harry gave his up, Beatrice could be in the running potentially should she wish to be a working Royal again but that is a whole thing. Same with Princess Eugenie. I cannot tell you for sure if they are technically still Chancellors of State who’s I’ll never be called upon, or they are not.
      William’s children are too young.

    • @Vonononie
      @Vonononie Місяць тому +6

      She famously didn’t get out of bed until noon, lunched for a few hours which included the start of what was multiple alcoholic drinks, and would be available for late afternoon or evening events. The only time she would be seen out in the morning was for state occasions and for horse racing events. She had multiple holidays a year, owning a Caribbean island (making airmiles Andy look like an amateur). Princess Margaret didn’t want to work (this conversation did not happen), but she did like status. She just wanted to pick and choose the glamorous events, but life had moved on from the 50s and 60s, she wasn’t the pretty girl the ‘in set’ wanted to hang out with anymore. But saying all of that apparently she was a lot of fun to party with if she deemed you up to standard

    • @thomasdalton1508
      @thomasdalton1508 Місяць тому

      ​@@allshookup1640 They could have found her another role, though. Andrew was "Special Representative for International Trade and Investment" for ten years, for example. There are lots of jobs you can invent for members of the royal family if you want to. Mostly, it just creates an opportunity for them to make a mess of things, but you can do it.

    • @judycroteau482
      @judycroteau482 Місяць тому +2

      @@allshookup1640Not Chancellors of State - Councillors of State.

    • @davidboult4143
      @davidboult4143 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@judycroteau482 "Counsellors of State".

  • @linawalter5104
    @linawalter5104 Місяць тому

    Wasn't Prince Phillip one ?

    • @jenniferdaniels701
      @jenniferdaniels701 Місяць тому +1

      It's consort (then Prince Phillip), and the first four people in the Line of Succession that are 21 years old (exception for the heir, he/ she can be 18 when becoming a councillor). Sometimes, an exception can be made to add someone else, like a dowager queen (The Queen Mum), or more working royals (currently Anne and Edward) if there aren't enough working royals who are councillors (Harry left, Andrew was forced to not be a working royal, and Beatrice was never expected to be a working royal).

  • @Philosofiya
    @Philosofiya День тому

    Horrible. Ridiculous rule!!
    King George's daughter, she is King George's daughter.

  • @tanisabenulic2861
    @tanisabenulic2861 Місяць тому +10

    Margaret was a spoiled woman. She could do anything she wanted but she was just whining,

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 4 дні тому

      Totally agree.

  • @Maria-sg4zy
    @Maria-sg4zy Місяць тому +22

    Watching the Crown, I feel Princess Margaret was done wrong. The Queen just wouldn't let her shine. She wanted her there when she needed her. The Queen could have made some acceptions. imo.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Місяць тому

      Yup, from season 1. Wouldn't the crown had wanted an ace pilot as their one of their own?

    • @glen7318
      @glen7318 Місяць тому

      @@shaider1982 dont be silly.

    • @kb4903
      @kb4903 4 дні тому

      She got to enjoy her life so much and still felt It wasn’t enough. Spoilt brat.

  • @claireangier3322
    @claireangier3322 21 день тому +1

    If this is accurate, I didn't realise how much cra* the Queen had to take and that was just from the family! ❤

  • @artboxfashion4042
    @artboxfashion4042 Місяць тому

    I wonder of they slapped each other when they were kids...

    • @fahimfaisalmahir567
      @fahimfaisalmahir567 Місяць тому

      Well, there is a video where King George was holding Margaret in his arms and her sister was spanking her tushy.

    • @marieadams8895
      @marieadams8895 Місяць тому

      ​@@fahimfaisalmahir567 oh!

  • @b1crusade384
    @b1crusade384 8 днів тому

    She is right. She aged out.

  • @jalipeesma
    @jalipeesma Місяць тому +2

    Poor Margaret

  • @WilliamTurneresq
    @WilliamTurneresq Місяць тому +2

    "Lurch."

    • @dynamoninja8510
      @dynamoninja8510 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 had no idea Margaret would ever watched “The Addams family!!!

  • @jordanrodway6815
    @jordanrodway6815 7 днів тому

    Margaret clearly had a tragic life she was second best all the time.

  • @maryhoward2491
    @maryhoward2491 Місяць тому +4

    She was so entitled and ir had to be all about her....remind you of anyone else....

    • @htimsid
      @htimsid Місяць тому

      Whom did you have in mind?

  • @kb4903
    @kb4903 4 дні тому +1

    No sympathy for Margaret at all. She lived the high life of Riley but wanted the royal treatment/role as well. Entitled to nothing.

  • @Omnicient.
    @Omnicient. Місяць тому +3

    For me Carter always overacts in films and so all that is seen and heard is a performance. If she'd stop acting and being so self conscious it would help us believe in the character. She is unconvincing as the Queen as Mirren was so all such things come across to me as high camp and not to be taken seriously and some of the lines given to her are profoundly unlike the Queen.

    • @petermasefield8403
      @petermasefield8403 Місяць тому

      She plays Princess Margaret, the outspoken debutante, not The Queen

  • @sadjaxx
    @sadjaxx Місяць тому +7

    Poor woman, they completely broke her.

  • @user-hj8qe2ct1i
    @user-hj8qe2ct1i 22 дні тому +1

    What a load of bollocks

  • @racheltan2555
    @racheltan2555 Місяць тому +2

    That’s not Fair just because Elizabeth is Older and her Children come first!! (Is that how the system works!! Elizabeth should’ve supported Margaret instead of throwing her under the bus)

    • @fahimfaisalmahir567
      @fahimfaisalmahir567 Місяць тому +1

      Not everyone can fit in a box

    • @deeboo9978
      @deeboo9978 Місяць тому +2

      You would end up with countless councillors of the state and working royals if people didn’t move down . All the Wales children will become councillors of state at some point and most likely working royals. Then if George has children they will. At the moment Harry is 5th in 30 years time he could be 10th or lower depending on how many children George, Charlotte and Louis have.

  • @rashedalkaabi1752
    @rashedalkaabi1752 29 днів тому

    avada cdabra

  • @Starscreamf15
    @Starscreamf15 Місяць тому

    I understand rules and protocols but what good is having the position and power of being Queen (or King) if you can't exercise that authority from time to time to change things like this? It's like the rules are in control, WTF. Yes these things are in place to keep things balanced and not chaotic but come on, Elizabeth could have just said no, Margaret keeps her position, end of discussion. It wouldn't have hurt anything or anyone.

    • @mysdelune
      @mysdelune Місяць тому +3

      Monarchs have “right to be consulted, the right to encourage, and the right to warn” specifically. Other than that, England Constitution does not allow a monarch to rule, but to reign.