Great explanation, thank you! Perhaps you might consider a full tutorial on getting the Cargo Pads working. Mine never do, okay, I think ONCE they worked as intended. Yours clearly ARE working so I'd love a tutorial on how you set those up so they work properly!
I will have to look into why they don't work first. Perhaps the new patch has fixed this. I haven't spent much time on them as I don't like how they have been implemented. They should have been more like Fallout 4, creating a link for your outpost inventories.
I am just avoiding playing this aspect of the game for now its time consuming and frustrating, I can not believe they got it so wrong when FO4 did it surprisingly well.
Why is it that everybody seems to think that it is a malfunction in the system when manual placement of objects within the cargo bins remains fixed while links through the transfer container do not? Certainly, everybody must realize that we need both of those systems available to us, and the fact that they made them both available is a success. Use the transfer container only at the moment you wish to insert or remove a large amount of material to and from a large stack of containers impossible to reach and do manually. This helps when you have a starport with stacks of ten or more high and they're scattered all throughout the shipping yard. For the smaller rarer quantity stuff, you can go one or two high and use the manual method. They made it possible to do both and both are useful.
6:00 To me, according to the in game description of the transfer container, it was only meant as an outgoing transfer. You link whatever you produce at your outpost to this container and you can retrieve the items from your ship, with no need to go outside. Till I saw videos about this subject, I had never ever thought of transfer containers as an ingoing transfer, I don't feel that it was intended that way.
I don't think it was either but it has been since day 1 because the information provided by Bethseda is limited to say the least. This is why I created the video because i felt there hadn't been enough emphasis on this.
when i wanted to have a big resource dump at an outpost, i just used the xfer container as the starting point for the distribution. It was great because its the one object you can use to dump all 4 types of resources. If you connect it to banks of gas/liquid/solid/mfr storage units, anything you put in here will go to the right type of storage automatically. It just doesn't work with some oddball things that don't really fit in the main 4 categories, and that's fine. Now that Creations has launched, I just use DarkStar astrodynamics and manufacturing mods to simplify outposts since the landing pad in that mod has massive storage, so you don't need to create large banks of storage anymore.
The transfer container worked fine like this unless there was an automatic input from something else like a cargo link or resource collector. Then, adding manually to the TC would break the links. There is a chest that you can link to that will accept the other items not covered by the 4, but unfortunately, it accepts all items, including the 4. So it was useless in the end.
@@vastant Yes, i tried that chest idea. The only way it worked is if i put in those items destined for the chest one by one. Now I just use DarkStar Astrodynamics and Manufacturing mods, which completely change how I set up an outpost for the better. Being SB should mean I have access to better technology, so it works for my head canon :)
An added idea for a video is using the Storage Crates within a hab to store excess Storage Container Resources using the resource link to the Storage crates within the hab. This allows you to access multiple resources within an outpost quickly inside the hab with multiple storage crates. I use these alot to solve many issues. Many players might not know you can do this with one of the storage crate types.
Sure I'll have a look into it. Do you know which crate it is? I did think about that when it released last year but didn't find one. Thanks for the idea.
It's the large black crate. I've never really messed around with it but it does allow you to daisy chain them together. I never got it to work right but I am going to test it out using the method you used on the container only method.
I tested it out and it works but the problem is that it can take anything, materials, equipment, meds etc. On top of that it can be stacked so it's not really feasible to use with a transfer container which is a shame. It also doesn't work linking them and adding items manually. It would be great if it did.
The description says that simply having the container is supposed to allow you to access the outpost's storage containers from the ship, but like you said, it's not explained on how this works.
There are quite a few aspects that are properly explained. I feel the game was rushed at the end to get it out. Not sure if this was Microsoft's doing or not though.
They can't otherwise people would just use it to store stuff. They just need to make it a trigger for accessing the inventory system for an outpost as well, with the additional storage types specifically for outposts.
TIL you can delete a link without deleting the end of the link. It would be great, tho, if the transfer container on hydraulic supports could hold more stuff than I can carry in my pockets. Also, if you're mining lots of different things, the transfer container takes what seems like a random assortment of each - there's no balance. Also, you can move your marker after you place it, and the area it covers won't change.
As I mentioned in the video, the transfer container should not hold anything and just be an inventory trigger. So when you place it you just have access to an inventory screen same as your ship.
@@vastant Does it work for stuff that's not in the container? You can access all the contents of all the containers in the outpost? Because that would be cool. I didn't find it working that way, but I might have done something wrong.
Unfortunately, no it doesn't. You can only see what's actually in the transfer container from your ship inventory. I wish you could see your entire outpost inventory but you can't. Perhaps they will change that in the future.
I think the real issue is that it's designed as a container and not an inventory interface. I gave up and started using 1x1 containers next to my landing pad.
The game feels like it was rushed at the end to get released. It is unusual for Bethesda to do this. Lots of little things didn't seem to get finished such as mouse over information on crew skills.
A workaround is to put storage containers for each resource near where you spawn so you can just access them directly and take what you need. Just adds another step in the process. Unfortunately, that doesn't help with cargo link outposts.
I always assumed contents only transferred if the input exceeded the containers max load. Thats whyvive used three different sizes of containers from the resource to the cargo transfer as a sort of pressure regulator..
Not being a wiae ass cuz im just seting up my first outpost now But why are people putting stuff from their pockets into these containers anyway? If i stop at my outpost im just using the smaller containers inside.i do understand that it shouldn't be an issue but we know bethsda does these things often. im just curious if im missing something? So basically only take from them dont add right?
Yes, but you have to do it from the TC inventory, and you can not have any incoming links to the TC from things such as cargo links or resource collectors. Otherwise, it will break the outgoing links from the TC.
I wonder what will happen if you link several containers in a loop, I mean connect container A to B, B to C and C back to A again. Would your computer crash? Would the resource dissapear or never able to be accessed again? Questions..
The problem w the transfer container is very simple.. say for an iron or aluminum mine.. you pop the container from your ship and you can only grab around 600 resources before you have to back out of the inventory and go back in to make it refresh. Same w just walking up to the transfer container itself. Which.. if you’re only mining 600 resources .. is fine. Problem is, I build crap like amp farms which yield 10-15k argon, metabolic agent, and toxic - at a clip. It’s mind numbing to have to jump back and forth in the menu instead of letting me just grab it all in 1 damn shot. The only thing MORE mind numbing is then sitting infront of the med machine and only being able to crank out 99 amp at a time. Like.. seriously?
Agreed, that's why they just need to change the way the transfer container works and it just becomes an inventory trigger/interface similar to the one used for ships.
They have fixed a lot of things but it's mainly been focused on bugs, stability and performance. I wouldn't expect any game mechanic changes until the DLC is released... possibly sooner but I'm not in the know.
Actually, the controls seem more suited to controller. If you try to place things you can't use the mouse to move you have to use keyboard, which is a controller derived input.
it's a bethesda game...some times shit works some times it doesn't...that's life. In my game i got outpost that say there not working...but everything is going where it's suppose too & then there's the oppisite ... shit i got one oupost that was completed looked perfect,ran perfect...NOW when i go there various things disseapear , whole structures are gone...but guess what i can collect all my materials & they're shipping out to other outpost fine... SOOOOO... that's just bethesda mechanics.
Haha love it!! Yeah I have been sick with a dry throat so talking for so long is causing an issue especiallywith the throaties. Lol I tried 3 different Mics I had lying around to try lessen that.
Great explanation, thank you! Perhaps you might consider a full tutorial on getting the Cargo Pads working. Mine never do, okay, I think ONCE they worked as intended. Yours clearly ARE working so I'd love a tutorial on how you set those up so they work properly!
I will have to look into why they don't work first. Perhaps the new patch has fixed this. I haven't spent much time on them as I don't like how they have been implemented. They should have been more like Fallout 4, creating a link for your outpost inventories.
I am just avoiding playing this aspect of the game for now its time consuming and frustrating, I can not believe they got it so wrong when FO4 did it surprisingly well.
If you keep your outposts simple, it's worth it, but you can skip by having essentially a flying outpost.
@@vastant flying outpost?
A C class ship, with all the workshops and enough storage. Mine has over 11k base mass storage.
Excellent explanation to understand the bug is caused by the manual action thank you !
Thanks
Why is it that everybody seems to think that it is a malfunction in the system when manual placement of objects within the cargo bins remains fixed while links through the transfer container do not? Certainly, everybody must realize that we need both of those systems available to us, and the fact that they made them both available is a success.
Use the transfer container only at the moment you wish to insert or remove a large amount of material to and from a large stack of containers impossible to reach and do manually. This helps when you have a starport with stacks of ten or more high and they're scattered all throughout the shipping yard. For the smaller rarer quantity stuff, you can go one or two high and use the manual method.
They made it possible to do both and both are useful.
6:00 To me, according to the in game description of the transfer container, it was only meant as an outgoing transfer. You link whatever you produce at your outpost to this container and you can retrieve the items from your ship, with no need to go outside. Till I saw videos about this subject, I had never ever thought of transfer containers as an ingoing transfer, I don't feel that it was intended that way.
I don't think it was either but it has been since day 1 because the information provided by Bethseda is limited to say the least. This is why I created the video because i felt there hadn't been enough emphasis on this.
when i wanted to have a big resource dump at an outpost, i just used the xfer container as the starting point for the distribution. It was great because its the one object you can use to dump all 4 types of resources. If you connect it to banks of gas/liquid/solid/mfr storage units, anything you put in here will go to the right type of storage automatically. It just doesn't work with some oddball things that don't really fit in the main 4 categories, and that's fine.
Now that Creations has launched, I just use DarkStar astrodynamics and manufacturing mods to simplify outposts since the landing pad in that mod has massive storage, so you don't need to create large banks of storage anymore.
The transfer container worked fine like this unless there was an automatic input from something else like a cargo link or resource collector. Then, adding manually to the TC would break the links. There is a chest that you can link to that will accept the other items not covered by the 4, but unfortunately, it accepts all items, including the 4. So it was useless in the end.
@@vastant Yes, i tried that chest idea. The only way it worked is if i put in those items destined for the chest one by one. Now I just use DarkStar Astrodynamics and Manufacturing mods, which completely change how I set up an outpost for the better. Being SB should mean I have access to better technology, so it works for my head canon :)
An added idea for a video is using the Storage Crates within a hab to store excess Storage Container Resources using the resource link to the Storage crates within the hab. This allows you to access multiple resources within an outpost quickly inside the hab with multiple storage crates. I use these alot to solve many issues. Many players might not know you can do this with one of the storage crate types.
Sure I'll have a look into it. Do you know which crate it is? I did think about that when it released last year but didn't find one. Thanks for the idea.
It's the large black crate. I've never really messed around with it but it does allow you to daisy chain them together. I never got it to work right but I am going to test it out using the method you used on the container only method.
Doesn't the game automatically draw from crates, ship and collectors already?
I tested it out and it works but the problem is that it can take anything, materials, equipment, meds etc. On top of that it can be stacked so it's not really feasible to use with a transfer container which is a shame. It also doesn't work linking them and adding items manually. It would be great if it did.
It does draw from them but you have to add items manually. Even though you can link them, as soon as you add an item manually the link doesn't work.
Thanks for this explanation now I can move on to other things thank you !
Glad it helped
Thank you
The description says that simply having the container is supposed to allow you to access the outpost's storage containers from the ship, but like you said, it's not explained on how this works.
There are quite a few aspects that are properly explained. I feel the game was rushed at the end to get it out. Not sure if this was Microsoft's doing or not though.
If they would allow the transfer container to be infinite in its capacity that would be great.
They can't otherwise people would just use it to store stuff. They just need to make it a trigger for accessing the inventory system for an outpost as well, with the additional storage types specifically for outposts.
TIL you can delete a link without deleting the end of the link. It would be great, tho, if the transfer container on hydraulic supports could hold more stuff than I can carry in my pockets. Also, if you're mining lots of different things, the transfer container takes what seems like a random assortment of each - there's no balance.
Also, you can move your marker after you place it, and the area it covers won't change.
As I mentioned in the video, the transfer container should not hold anything and just be an inventory trigger. So when you place it you just have access to an inventory screen same as your ship.
@@vastant Does it work for stuff that's not in the container? You can access all the contents of all the containers in the outpost? Because that would be cool. I didn't find it working that way, but I might have done something wrong.
Unfortunately, no it doesn't. You can only see what's actually in the transfer container from your ship inventory. I wish you could see your entire outpost inventory but you can't. Perhaps they will change that in the future.
I think the real issue is that it's designed as a container and not an inventory interface. I gave up and started using 1x1 containers next to my landing pad.
Thanks for the video, I can’t understand why there is no proper official documentation for a game that they charge 80€++
The game feels like it was rushed at the end to get released. It is unusual for Bethesda to do this. Lots of little things didn't seem to get finished such as mouse over information on crew skills.
nice ship
Great explanation, thanks.
You're welcome!
Quick question - you build the Dark Angel? Looks awesome 😁 and cargo space!
Thanks, it's a simple build and my flying outpost that does everything needed for a playthrough. Will be doing a build guide for it soon.
My outpost, with 2 resources, fills the transfer container with one resource. Blocking the other resource. its a real pain.
A workaround is to put storage containers for each resource near where you spawn so you can just access them directly and take what you need. Just adds another step in the process. Unfortunately, that doesn't help with cargo link outposts.
It would be great if you could use the power switches to control which resource goes where.
It would be great if you had computer terminal you could use to do this even at a basic level.
I always assumed contents only transferred if the input exceeded the containers max load. Thats whyvive used three different sizes of containers from the resource to the cargo transfer as a sort of pressure regulator..
No, the transfer container has its own mass limit, which bottlenecks everything.
Not being a wiae ass cuz im just seting up my first outpost now But why are people putting stuff from their pockets into these containers anyway? If i stop at my outpost im just using the smaller containers inside.i do understand that it shouldn't be an issue but we know bethsda does these things often. im just curious if im missing something? So basically only take from them dont add right?
can you send things from the ship to the TC then to the associated storage?
Yes, but you have to do it from the TC inventory, and you can not have any incoming links to the TC from things such as cargo links or resource collectors. Otherwise, it will break the outgoing links from the TC.
Thank you! I just built a supply ship with 44k in storage, so I was considering having an offload outpost if it ever fills up.
I wonder what will happen if you link several containers in a loop, I mean connect container A to B, B to C and C back to A again. Would your computer crash? Would the resource dissapear or never able to be accessed again? Questions..
Try it let me know.... LoL
@@vastant turns out you can't 🙃
'already connected'
Skip to 12 minutes mark
The problem w the transfer container is very simple.. say for an iron or aluminum mine.. you pop the container from your ship and you can only grab around 600 resources before you have to back out of the inventory and go back in to make it refresh. Same w just walking up to the transfer container itself. Which.. if you’re only mining 600 resources .. is fine. Problem is, I build crap like amp farms which yield 10-15k argon, metabolic agent, and toxic - at a clip. It’s mind numbing to have to jump back and forth in the menu instead of letting me just grab it all in 1 damn shot. The only thing MORE mind numbing is then sitting infront of the med machine and only being able to crank out 99 amp at a time. Like.. seriously?
Agreed, that's why they just need to change the way the transfer container works and it just becomes an inventory trigger/interface similar to the one used for ships.
Long, slow, buries lead, lots of mouth smacking, throat clearing. Could've told us the point in first thirty seconds
They haven't improved this yet? I stopped playing months ago hoping they'd fix a lot of things......
They have fixed a lot of things but it's mainly been focused on bugs, stability and performance. I wouldn't expect any game mechanic changes until the DLC is released... possibly sooner but I'm not in the know.
I'm on console and I assumed outpost building was made for pc 😅
Actually, the controls seem more suited to controller. If you try to place things you can't use the mouse to move you have to use keyboard, which is a controller derived input.
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it's a bethesda game...some times shit works some times it doesn't...that's life.
In my game i got outpost that say there not working...but everything is going where it's suppose too & then there's the oppisite ...
shit i got one oupost that was completed looked perfect,ran perfect...NOW when i go there various things disseapear , whole structures are gone...but guess what i can collect all my materials & they're shipping out to other outpost fine...
SOOOOO... that's just bethesda mechanics.
The driest mouth on UA-cam
Haha love it!! Yeah I have been sick with a dry throat so talking for so long is causing an issue especiallywith the throaties. Lol I tried 3 different Mics I had lying around to try lessen that.