Even if this test were not skewed in anyway I wouldn't be surprised at these results. This type of short distance heavy pulling application is where electric motors shine.. Pulling down the highway at 70 MPH for 8 hrs is another story.
No EV in the world can hold a handle to my 20 year old diesel car that worth 1500 euros which i use to tow a caravan,i go to 1000 km trips ,with EV would need like 10 times charging
Complete runs aren't that uncommon. Of course, real tractor pulls are limited by weight classes. The Cybertruck is pretty heavy for tractor pulling, but way down on power. The big sleds are pulled by tractors of under 3 tonnes, but most of the weight is engine, with like 6k horsepower. This is not a particularly big sled. By contrast, a steam traction engine has less horsepower than a small car, but enormous torque and weight, and can just drag a sled no issues.
Don't worry they're going to find out soon enough that is a waste of money and a waste of time the government is not going to stop producing gasoline because a battery powered car😅
I have pulled these in the past. Speed to the ground helps. The CT if you noticed pulled faster which created forward momentum. The CT is not in the same class as the F350.
I noticed that too. None of the other vehicles had any tire spin except for the lightning. That 350 probably would've won if they drove it just as hard as the CT.
so, just a few general observations as someone who is very much into trucks both as a hobby and as a career, is that the F350 has a hitch mounted lower than the cyber truck, meaning that cybertruck is going to have more traction because cyber truck has more weight on the wheels. this is also why the rivian did so well. f350 could also pull all day, cyber truck will lose a lot of pulling power as it pulls over and over. or, in a real world use case, cyber truck will lose power the farther it goes on its trip. dont get me wrong the cyber truck is cool and all, but id still go with a diesel motor especially because power stays consistent all day while im driving. also i am curious to know the price tag on the 3 motor cyber truck vs an f350. another question is PM/repair cost. id be willing to bet that the cyber truck is going to be far more expensive to run than f350 in the long run. last question that is still unanswered is how does the payload capacity stack up between the two trucks? id bet that f350 will hold up to more weight in the bed and id bet that the f350 lasts longer in terms of being able to do its job 10, 20, maybe even 30 years from now. again, just a few observations...nobody get bent out of shape now
No it was in 4wd as well. You can see the front wheels clearly spinning and hop at the end of the F350s pull. Id still take the F350 all day anyway lol. @@garrylarose1506
I think the bigger problem holding the Cybertruck (or any electric truck) back is just the sheer energy required to tow over long distances. Diesel is quite energy dense and gas pumps are significantly faster for refueling than charging stations are currently which makes diesel trucks a lot more sensible for long hauls. I think as battery energy density and charging speeds increase, the gap will narrow between range and refueling/recharging, and electric trucks will become more sensible for towing as well. Tesla has a semi after all, and they seem to be serious about heavy duty EVs.
To be fair to Rivian the tow rating is 11,000 lbs and this is nearly triple that. Rivian's truck has it's suspension tuned for comfort over hauling. The F350 didn't squat at all hardly because it has a higher tow rating with a stiffer suspension. However, it will ride like a brick glued to a steel beam down the road. I know because I own an F250 big block truck. It is basically trying to shake my teeth out of my skull on any bumpy road, but I love it to death when I have to haul something. The Cybertruck's suspension was squatting basically just as much as the Rivian because 99% of the people who own it will care more about ride comfort and are never going to haul with it. Most people are idiots that buy trucks these days for them to be pavement princes and princesses for the status of "owning a truck". As such most truck makers in this class are going to tune it for comfort. This truck will be no different.
The Cybertrucks pull was impressive but the F-350 was the only one that didn’t squat under all the weight. Poor Rivian looked like it was about to be crushed.
F150 had a tow line straight out from the tail. The tow line on the cyber truck was at a near 45° angle, which lifted up a lot of the weight and allowed the truck to pull farther. Not a fair test.
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@mith2946 that's where they get you with electric. It can go fast but it kills the battery with a sustained load. Notice in the beginning they said the car needs to be fully charged to do this.
@@printgymnast368 It doesn't need to be fully charged, that is just point which will give you maximum power. If you floor a gas car you are also depleting your gas ridiculously fast. You get like 2 MPG when flooring.
I would like to see a thermal cam of where the heat’s at in all of those. What’s harder to control? Batteries and motors or an exhaust pipe and coolant?
@@TroySavary The CT beat everyone by such a wide margin that any discussion about advantages is mute. A more suitable tire for the F-350 might have got it 5 feet further. The CT had the bucket on the sled all the way forward and was still pulling the sled. The driver just ran out of track.
It also has other thingd going for it like it comes close to the cybertrucl but it exceeds the cybertruck in ability to tow long distance. I know a guy that moved a boulder from a farm on one side of the country to the other with an f150 ann it wouldve sucked to put that in a cybertruck and have to stop more often for a long time
There's a big thing missed here. The fact that the electric trucks are at full charge for the run whereas the diesel could be at any amount of fuel in this tank. You would need to do a comparison of half charge versus half a full tank of diesel and then keep going lower and lower because we all know the diesel will still retain doing those runs whereas the electric trucks will struggle unless they are trying to say the electric trucks are the same all the way until no charge
They aren't trying to same it's the same. That literally why they took a large chunk of a short video to say it's on a full charge because it's not the same.
@@sh0cktim3 if you've used a power tool, that's not quite how it works. In the final 20%, maybe. Otherwise you can't easily tell what your drill has while using it. I doubt it's much of a difference really. Plaid gives you "repeatable launch", and this truck has even newer battery tech.
I think having different tires on the trucks is going to make a difference along with if traction control is on or off. Will be waiting for more independent reviews and tests.
The Cybertruck is impressive no doubt, but I would like to see a longevity performance comparison between the F350 and the Cybertruck. Have it pull that sled all day every day for a week and let's see the total distance.
Battery degradation 80% or more in 6 months. Y’all can have the cybertruck, gen 1, smart people will wait until gen 2 or 3 when solid state batteries take over the charging world.
This is such a dumb take, even for UA-cam. You don't know how battery degredation works, do you? You also have no idea that modern batteries are rated for about 300,000 miles 10% degredation under normal usage. @@SyrusLang
I dont understand why you would like to see that? A F350 is clearly not make for the same things than a Tesla or any other half tone truck actually. Have you ever drive a 350? It drives hard as a rock and its made the pull heavy stuff for years. A F150 is more for everyday use while offering a smooth drive ...and so is the Cybertruck. They shown the 350 pull just to show how strong the Cybertruck can pull, but they are not trying to say that you should buy a Cybertruck to pull 20" trailers full of bricks every day.
@@SyrusLang theyve been perfecting lithium cells a long time, i dont see it, regular tesla is supposed to still be functional at 300k miles, of course they all wont but some will, im all about choice, dont force me to buy any kind of car, my dmax has 445k still runs awesome, lets see em do that...
@@jbrc1322 yeah ive watched many and if they where all wheel drive they weight the front end down but put that aside the rear suspension looked weak as fuck on all the electric trucks
I like how they're exposing the vehicle weakness in the video, "having the vehicle fully charged is really important for peak power". You don't need that on an f350, you don't lose power over the fuel tank, you can have one gallon of fuel and full power.
we aren't getting much done with only a gallon of fuel on a towing truck either...the 550's and 750's as work trucks can go a whopping 4-6 miles on a gallon. Though I'd still prefer ICE for a work truck, there's nothing wrong with having options and developing new technologies. Tesla has earned its flowers. @@TheDylanPlayer14
If i had a wallet company i certainly wouldnt market it as inferior to the competition. I just think fords commerical is going to be them racing the rwo un a time trial from san diego to miami or soemthing because theyll win with the f350
@@josh_m Rigged? No. Set up in non practical short test favored to the specific scenario where the product would shine? Yes. Must be young if you believe any ad.
@@geomission The Cybertruck doesn’t even come close to the 10,000 horsepower 6000 lb-ft of torque a Super Modified Tractor can produce and with the weight those things pull the Cybertruck would struggle to even move the thing.
I would be curious to see what each hitch height was. This is a big factor when displacing the sled weight as it advances to the vehicle. Giving the vechle more traction and less weight of the sled digging into the ground.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
@@johanneshartman4618you think if I put 33’s on my stock 94 4Runner they’d rub without having to cut my finder. Thanks in advance and as always bless god
A baking company owner once told me, "True, we bring our best bread to contests - the kind that we would never sell in stores. However, it is still a fair competition because our competitors do the same. The point is, the one who can make the best contest bread, can make best everyday bread." That being said, since when have car makers' ads been honest? If you find them fun to watch, great, and the rest is a matter of what it will be like in real life.
The f250 is literally one of the most useless trucks out there 😂 That thing is not good in offroad, has no huge loading capacity and is not durable at all
From what I can see the Tesla's hitch seems to be higher because it's pulling the front of the sled up and off and off the ground. This makes a huge difference in pulling the sled. In an actual truck pull each hitch has to be exactly the same height there's a standard.
They only showed the f150 and the Tesla hitch height. The rivian and 350…no views of the hitch. Doubt they adjusted the hitch heigh per truck per the truck pull rules.
To be fair, Tesla cars are insane. I've been in the all-wheel drive Tesla Model X, and from zero to 100 there's no other American production car on the road that can beat it, the speed and power and torque. It's nuts.
@@etownumpsure but not for long distances.. when tesla driver decide he wanna go fast i will never catch.. i have problem when they purposly drive extra slow on highway to extend range disregarding the normal trafic flow. I have seen them driving slower than a loaded trucks..
@@TheOtherClips Like f-350 ? However you should Test the cybertruck before giving numbers At least Test a Rivian mileage while towing compared to no towing
@@TheOtherClips 420mi. is definetly enough you dont need 10,000. and the CT has a upgraded charging sytem it can recharge full on a level 4 charger under 30min
I can't agree enough with so many that have mentioned the ability to pull this sled one time as mentioned from point A-B and do it once twice or three times! I can almost bet you that there would be a huge difference between the first pull and the second and then the 4th and 7th etc that would equal the pull distance say of some of the California Sierras but I also know that the regeneration in the big rig versions is nearly completely recharging there batteries when they reach the other side however what would happen when you head to the central plain states where you go from sea level to 5k elevation and stay there for a thousand miles? Also a quick question why didn't they use the Dodge truck? It is if not the torque king it's very close and I am a Powerstroke fan in heart but have to give Dodge huge props for their motors and tow-torque (just haven't looked at them recently to compare).
they really need to do this test with all trucks fitted with the same style aggressive mud tire like the cybertruck. the F150 comes with a very highway oriented smooth tire, and the R1T has a mild highway and offroad all terrain tire, and the F350 generally has also a very highway oriented tire. on softer or clayish surfaces like this, a more aggressive knobbly tire does lend better to towing tractive effort especially with pulling a sled. also i wonder if they ran them all with the same drawbar height. also affects how much that skid anchors relative to pull
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
A better test would be like the video games but it would be sketchy to drag a weightnup an ever increasi g inclide to see which makes it farther up and have everyone survive
Take note of the "fully charged" comment. The implication being that these trunks can't always pull this far. Only when full. Unlike ice vehicles. The 350 will pull the same until the last drop of fuel is spent
@@CumDrinker1it's funny when the check engine light comes on for lower end ice trucks while pulling a load. It usually is the coolant temperature being too high. Requiring a fluid change to play it safe and keep warranty.
3 electric motors, the most high-performance model of Cybertruck... I think it's a natural result. But know this, electric motors can never beat the emotion that an engine gives to us.. :)
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
While this is great, at the end of the day, I think the average person cares more about how far you can tow something rather than can it tow a house! While I have no plans on buying a pickup, I was really hoping the Cybertruck would be able to tow 6,000 lbs for let's say 200 miles. Based on its battery size, I'll be stunned if it could do so for 150 miles.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
The average person cares whether or not they can replace parts on their vehicle without taking out a loan for propriety parts and software. I love the idea of EV's, but they are a right to repair NIGHTMARE. Everything is proprietary, everything is expensive.
The average person doesn't tow. Even here in Australia I see more utes on the road without tow balls/hitches than with, and I'm in Western Australia, the capital of truck owners.
Haha, exactly. But this was specifically organized and filmed to shut the diesel heads up, as they cope with the fact that the world is changing and that innovation is brining products that can literally compete at all the manly stuff that they are used to, oh there is one thing that the CB cant do, and that's to coal roll people on the road. Good riddance.
@@HealthySuccessfulHabits-zo5oc ooh, range. That is max 340 miles with a range extender as an extra option. So we can say, this CT is a jack of all trades.
did 1306 miles this weekend, 19hours... only stoped for fuel and 30 min to load a car. ram 2500. No way in hell I could ever do that in an electric truck. They have thier place but not suited for the long haul.
Yup, did 1400 miles in 16 hours with a 7.3 Powersroke E350 extended van that was full to the headliner with cargo and hauling a loaded car trailer behind it. Never turned it off once in the journey, just splashed fuel in it and kept hitting it hard.
@@jerry07dx55 Land rover EV conversion with a 170kw battery goes from Wales UK to Sweden... charges on Tesla, Porsche, Ionty and other chargers... fin it on youtube.
Tires also play a huge roll in a tractor pull, curious on the tire options. Also curious about the software setup, just guessing the Cybertruck had some software tweaks for putting down power vs. the others.
all vehicles were stock so if it came "untweaked" and shitty tires then that's what you get. My 2010 Tacoma came with worthless tires but I'm not gonna change the original ones until they wear out... as I don't do a lot of mileage, it took 11 years! Lol
It's incredible how opposing people are to electric vehicles. So much so that any unreasonable doubt or ignorant statement always gets attention. All vehicles were straight from the factory, stock, new, untweaked, unchanged, default settings. Tires matter, but you pay for what you get. That's the statement. The truth is, Tesla won this truck pull. If there are organisations other than tesla that typically do truck pulls or other strength tests, I'd like to see them evaluate the Cybertruck without Tesla's influence.
As an F-350, SRW Diesel owner, I'll admit this is very impressive! That said, my two greatest concerns for an E-truck are #1) Range as a function of payload and towing load. #2) Options for off-grid charging. - If one tows a large camper into the boonies and discovers they lack enough charge to return, what then? With gas or Diesel, it is resolved with a can or two of fuel. With the E-truck, it requires bringing a generator, and a BIG one at that, PLUS even more gas to cover the energy conversion losses. The long bed F-350's fuel capacity is 48 gallons. Without towing,no payload and conservative driving, I've gone 900 miles without stopping for fuel (20 MPG), and over 500 miles without stopping. With a 10k trailer and average aerodynamics, this may drop to 12 or 13 MPG. That still enables a range of over 570 miles. Many trucks (including mine often do entail driving long ranges while towing. To really break into this market, Tesla, Ford, Rivian, etc. must offer a backup solution that preemptively addresses the off-grid charging issue. Tesla's home charging circuit is rated for 80 Amps at 240 Volts. (19.2 kiloWatts). Small RV generators are a tenth that size, while the larger ones are a fifth that size. They run 120, not 240 Volts. A transformer could double the (single phase) voltage coming from an existing RV generator. This would at enable a much slower, but still valid means of off grid charging. I know it's a bastard solution to resort to petroleum for off-grid. But there is currently no other viable alternative.
Charging stations will be build. Just like gas stations were build. Towing power will improve, as will everything else that is inside of a car. I am sure horse riders had concerns that, if they had to travel for three days to get to the next city, they might run out of gas, but the horses can just eat grass anywhere. Just like there is a gas station every two blocks in all direction, EV charging stations will be everywhere. Only thing that will be different is you don't have to drive through thick cancer causing smoke. And yes pollution will be made somewhere, just not right next to your nose. And you wouldn't be one of the 60 thousand people dying from car crash, when AI start driving the cars.
@@imharbingerI know that the infrastructure WILL be built. But I distinguish between what WILL BE versus WHAT IS. If your favorite car maker starts selling a hydrogen powered car, would you buy it - TODAY? Or, would you want more infrastructure to be in place so that you can actually use it? While the situation for EVs is far better than hydrogen, you get the idea. For long distance driving and especially for off grid use, the infrastructure just isn't there yet. Another unaddressed item that I mentioned is the shortfall in refuel/recharge when off grid. Here is a real world example: A couple years ago, the news report about an accident on the interstate between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. All lanes were blocked for hours and it was 100F+ outside. So, a lot of people rand their A/C while waiting. By the time the jam was finally cleared, a large number of vehicles, and especially EVs were out of energy and unable to drive. For those out of gas, roadside assistance of a compassionate driver could return with a gallon of gas, problem solved. But for the EVs, well they were SOL.They had to wait their turn to be towed to a charging station. Now consider you've driven into a sparsely populated area, and you lack the energy to make it to a charging station. The vehicle quits on a rough, 4wd dirt road, part way to a charging station. What's your solution? For those of us who travel to remote areas in western states for Summer activities (e.g. Nevada, Utah, Wyoming), we'd want to KNOW the answer, and preferably it is one which does not entail towing or needing to bring a large generator and paying that person to wait for hours while it's charging. One aid would be that the Cybertruck has TWO battery packs.= the main one plus a much smaller, removable/swappable one. This would at least enable a rapid solution analogous to a gas can.
@@gregparrott "One aid would be that the Cybertruck has TWO battery packs." It actually has, or at least, it can. Roadside assistence can have the 'range extender' with them, when helping electric cars like the CT. But because this market is still small, that isn't happening yet. There you are correct. But you have to start somewhere; see the comparison between hoses and cars above. In a few years, road assistence cars will have general range extenders, with adapters, to fit on all electric cars. In a sparsely populated area, where there aren't many charging stations, indeed, I still would buy a fossil fuel car, probably. Fact is, there is a market for electric/hydrogen cars, and that will not go away. Also a fact is, that eventually, fossil fuel cars _will_ go away. Be it not in my lifetime.
@@mpmpm Thanks for the info on range extenders. At least some effort appears to have been made to handle an off-grid dead battery issue. Now, if only the energy density of a battery was reasonably close to that of gasoline or Diesel, (both in terms of weight and volume), we'd be well on our way to a solution
As others have said, Smarter Every Day’s video on this topic is excellent. It’s one of my favorite channels. ua-cam.com/video/VZ6_8WJ3mh8/v-deo.htmlsi=asadhYOYEtFkroGs
I would like to see an f350 tow a cyber truck from dan diego to miami racing agaisnt a cyber truck towing an f350. I bet you the f350 wins. That right there is proof
That's the thing I find hilarious about these types of videos...The comments section is always filled with just dads comparing their trucks even though they'll never ever actually use their truck for this shit😂 It's like they just like knowing how their expensive truck compares to other expensive trucks on the road...because...ego and too much money probably lol
If that ain’t the truth. Can’t wait to see all the social media pics of guys putting 3 bags of potting soil in the bed and caption it “putting this beast to work”
I noticed the Cyber truck did not keep level and as the sled weight moved forward the rear of the truck really fell down and the front went up a lot! If they adjust the suspension to keep the truck more level it would have had an easier time pulling. Also, tires matter on this event so it would have been good to have similar treaded tires on all vehicles.
It's down to the suspension. I doubt they intend the Cybertruck to pull 30k lbs., so it doesn't have the suspension to deal with it. Whereas a heavy duty will have leaves that make the unladen ride uncomfortable, but more capable to tow large weights.
Yeah, it was a fixed competition to begin with. All the trucks shouldn't have had equal setup in tires. That is like putting summer tires on a car and driving in the snow. 😅😅😅😅😅😅
using stock tires is the most realistic competition they could do though if you consider that the average person would just tow with their regular tires they get from factory, i think the data has some good truths to it that allow you to deduce on your own to make a decision@@boostedscooby1
Okay so with the tractor pulls, does the tractor in the back engage the brakes and that’s why the trucks slow down? or how does it work? because if the trucks can pull it right off the line why would they then slow to a stop? i’m genuinely curious.
There's the rub. When he said they all had to be fully charged because that is when they are at it's peak power/pulling ability. So as far as i'm concerned the F-350 won because it will pull that at 1/4 of a tank of fuel where as the Cyber Truck probably won't. Let's see that test.
Jeez growing up in the very first tractor pull according to grandpa that’s impressive. I can show you the first field of battle between two tractors tied;)
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
@@currincook6422My conclusion is that if they'd used the 2023 F-350 6.7L Turbo diesel of 500bhp tune, like all top of the range EV trucks, it may outdo the Cyber truck or atleast all other EV trucks, that's why they did that on purpose.
@@currincook6422 wrong. The right configuration of a superduty or any other 1 ton truck will pull more than the cybertruck. Of course they didn't have the right configuration for obvious reasons, else the whole point of this video would be pointless lol. edit: NOT an apples to apples comparison as the guy says in the video.
@@paulrybarczyk5013 he actually tests vehicles till they get destroyed showing true durability and potential, look at the Hilux videos, almost all modern "pickups" wouldnt even go through half of what the Hilux did
Y'all thought you could fool us. Good job with the aerial shot lol. This is not equivalent to an actual truck/tractor pull, there are only 3 weight slots taken up out of 12-14, you just adjusted the waits to make it work and make it look like a stock pickup truck could do a real pull.
that was not the point, the point was to let us see the performance of the CT relative to these other cars. Nobody cares if it could do a full pull or not. Nobody cares.
wish they showed us how much battery was left after that 1 pull and how it preforms in the different driving modes.. willing to bet that was done in "ludacris" mode
@@alejandroperez5368probably 98-99%. It’s a few hundred feet. A few hundred ridiculously heavy feet. To get 90% it would be using kilowatt hour per second. The motors are not remotely capable using that much energy.
@@alejandroperez5368 All you have to do is look at a model S Plaid 1/4 mile energy usage per run and it should be similar due to the truck having a bigger battery but the pull going on longer I bet. Plaid uses around 3% for the 1/4 mile at full pace .
Tesla is always about pulling ,speed but never talks about range, refueling time frame ,range performance in the winter .real work trucks ,for real working needs, in the real world.
They took a Tesla to Nurburgring to beat the lap record, even rented a diesel generator but you don't hear anything about that do you? That's because it handled like a drunk turtle and ate tires like a car in a demo derby. This is all Tesla rigged tests, to fool the college kids into thinking they are somehow invincible. You don't here how them tout how much it costs to change the battery do you?
Pulls pretty great actually.. but I’d be afraid of a family vacation with a big camper behind it for hundreds of miles. I could see that trip being a hassle 😅
@@moreuggaduggas Is that why the front wheels are spinning and jumping? Because it is just creeping along at 2k RPM? Is that why when it drives past the camera you can hear the high revs?
@@SSSLYDE They have deluded themselves into thinking that diesel or gas powered engines(their preference) are the best in all situations and must jump to the conclusion that there must be some sort of trickery. Electric engines are not the best in all situations ether, but they have huge advantages in specific applications.
It looked like both the rivian and cybertruck's front wheels came up off the ground and steering controls were momentarily lost. There is something to be said about putting a large diesel engine over the front wheels to help give more leverage when pivoting the payload's weight about the rear wheels. It seams like there is a compromise to be made, do you engineer for cornering/handling by putting the battery in the middle or towing by putting it up front and using heavy duty leaf springs in the rear.
My question isn't necessarily how much it can pull but how well does it stop if say your driving down the highway and someone cuts you off, or even in town and a kid runs out in front of you. How does it compare to that?
The cybertruck is impressive technically, and there are some pretty cool engineering work that went in to it. Its a shame the same lvl of effort didnt follow the truck in terms of its exterior and interior design tho.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!❤
@@KristopherBaker Just because its getting released doesnt mean the design isnt horrible lol. There are plenty of extremely poorly designed/built cars on the roads today.
esthetically? I mean the f150 and 350 look fucking hideous tho. Its like they r from 50 years ago straight up. As a young person I cant stand looking cars that dont look from the decade im from, but are new cars. Cybertruck is fking weird for sure, but they definitely put "EFFORT" as you said into its design. After all, taste is subjective.@@Kerman_von_Braun
@@ihavenoidea4727 I mean, im from EU so trucks arent really my thing in general. Idk man, i feel like i could knock that design out in about 1h in SolidWorks if i wanted to. Im sure the manufacturing process took effort to set up, but the design it self looks like it was done by an unpaid intern lol. Tho realistically, Elon probably did it him self and then showed his ''design'' to the engineers and told them to figure it out.
Thats what ive been saying the whole time. They show these crazy things the electric trucks are doing but how bad is that hurting battery power? They literally said in this video that the trucks need to be at full charge because thats when you get peak power. A regular ICE engine truck is at peak power no matter how much gas is in it.
@@itsjohn7848nobody is debating that gas is better in terms of fuel economy. These are things that will be ironed out over time. They aren't going to solve every problem overnight. I do think that something better will come along to replace typical batteries or batteries tech will get to a point where they can squeeze a lot more power into a smaller form factor. I also think portable batteries may be a thing. But no one is arguing that electric is better than gas right now
I agree with you that technology will come along that will improve electric trucks and i think there will be a day where range and power are not as much of an issue when it comes to towing for electric vehicles. Tech keeps evolving. However, i cant agree with you that nobody is saying electric is better than gas. Just watch this video alone. There are so many people that believe electric is better than gas but it simply just hasn't yet reached that point. We’re not there. At least not yet.
@@itsjohn7848 nah fam. Electric has its advantages especially when u talk about torque, but we definitely know they can't compare when it comes to things like range. Anyone arguing that, u shouldn't listen to. I think electric definitely has the potential to be better but we not there yet. But it is funny how technology works tho. Think about CDs. That tech only lasted like a decade or two. SD cards was always the better option but the tech wasn't there yet and it was too expensive at the time. CDs served as a cheap alternative in the meantime until the cost of storage went down. Not SD is the standard. I see something similar like that happening with electric. This may just be a stop gap until some better knew tech comes along that is more economical and more productive.
That's a good question. You'll clearly use far more energy to tow anything. After just exceeding the tow capacity of every one of these vehicles by about 30,000 pounds I would expect the EVs to have drained a significant amount of their battery power. Yes, of course the diesel used more fuel but you'll likely still have hundreds of miles remaining until empty. The F150 Lightning has already shown in videos to get terrible towing "fuel economy". These vehicles, at best, are good for job sites where you can plug them in at the end of the day after jaunting around a limited area with stuff in the bed and are not good in any real life capacity for towing trailers thousands of miles. The F350 diesel would be the only intelligent choice for long range.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
This is cute, but we all know whistlin diesel is gonna really crank up the test😂
honestly can't wait
Can’t wait for that man 😂😂😂
I thought that was him in the lightning 😂
gonna be a good one
Lol
Even if this test were not skewed in anyway I wouldn't be surprised at these results. This type of short distance heavy pulling application is where electric motors shine.. Pulling down the highway at 70 MPH for 8 hrs is another story.
No EV in the world can hold a handle to my 20 year old diesel car that worth 1500 euros which i use to tow a caravan,i go to 1000 km trips ,with EV would need like 10 times charging
Facts!...This is not a real world application. How many times would you have to stop and plug that thing in?
The EV trucks probably could have pulled further, but their batteries died during that test most likely. 😂
@@Adub86in case you didn't watch the video at the end he had to turn the vehicle because he was running at a room but okay 😂
Yeppers very great point lol 😂
Let me know when you're ready to show what these can actually do :)
tesla gets stuck
Cody??👀👀
We wanna see a cybertruck durability test 😂
Take it for a swim! It looks like a boat.
Lmao
The all new 6.7L V8 Powerstroke HO with 500hp and 1627nm of torque makes it eat dust to that RC truck. Diesel all the way boys.
That’s RIGHT brother 🇺🇸
@@RedlininRednecks This is how we roll fellows. Regards from Florence! 🥩⚜️🇮🇹
I’m diesel guy through and through but that cybertruck makes 10k lbft of torque
"Sled always wins" sounds like a challenge. Let's see the Abrams.
They really didn’t show trucks with the same performance for pulling aka the f650 the raptor r the Trx and more just a standard f350 aswell
@@Triplew00d all of which would fail to the cyber truck
Complete runs aren't that uncommon. Of course, real tractor pulls are limited by weight classes. The Cybertruck is pretty heavy for tractor pulling, but way down on power. The big sleds are pulled by tractors of under 3 tonnes, but most of the weight is engine, with like 6k horsepower. This is not a particularly big sled.
By contrast, a steam traction engine has less horsepower than a small car, but enormous torque and weight, and can just drag a sled no issues.
for the ones that don't know. it's been done. tank takes the sled off the track and takes it home. bcs traction + power and you can move mountains
@@user-sx2rn5sl3m all of them hammered that test especially the unimog which tripled the cybertrucks distance
We all know every cybertruck will just be doing 100+ mph weaving in and outta traffic.
Seriously. Tesla drivers are the new BMW drivers
With a broken rear window ofc
Don't worry they're going to find out soon enough that is a waste of money and a waste of time the government is not going to stop producing gasoline because a battery powered car😅
Just like 90% of every other pick up. Also the damn Gov doesn't produce or pump oil 🙄
@@November8888You can actually buy that sticker for your Cybertruck
I have pulled these in the past. Speed to the ground helps. The CT if you noticed pulled faster which created forward momentum. The CT is not in the same class as the F350.
Thank you this bs ass channel
I noticed that too. None of the other vehicles had any tire spin except for the lightning. That 350 probably would've won if they drove it just as hard as the CT.
so, just a few general observations as someone who is very much into trucks both as a hobby and as a career, is that the F350 has a hitch mounted lower than the cyber truck, meaning that cybertruck is going to have more traction because cyber truck has more weight on the wheels. this is also why the rivian did so well. f350 could also pull all day, cyber truck will lose a lot of pulling power as it pulls over and over. or, in a real world use case, cyber truck will lose power the farther it goes on its trip.
dont get me wrong the cyber truck is cool and all, but id still go with a diesel motor especially because power stays consistent all day while im driving. also i am curious to know the price tag on the 3 motor cyber truck vs an f350. another question is PM/repair cost. id be willing to bet that the cyber truck is going to be far more expensive to run than f350 in the long run. last question that is still unanswered is how does the payload capacity stack up between the two trucks? id bet that f350 will hold up to more weight in the bed and id bet that the f350 lasts longer in terms of being able to do its job 10, 20, maybe even 30 years from now.
again, just a few observations...nobody get bent out of shape now
Did you notice the f350 was in 2wd where CT is 4wd
No it was in 4wd as well. You can see the front wheels clearly spinning and hop at the end of the F350s pull. Id still take the F350 all day anyway lol. @@garrylarose1506
@@garrylarose1506 it looked like it was in 4wd? I don’t think it would be able to go nearly that far in 2wd
I shall agree with your observations. And cybertruck payload is 2.5k lbs (1k less than they originally stated it would be)
I think the bigger problem holding the Cybertruck (or any electric truck) back is just the sheer energy required to tow over long distances. Diesel is quite energy dense and gas pumps are significantly faster for refueling than charging stations are currently which makes diesel trucks a lot more sensible for long hauls. I think as battery energy density and charging speeds increase, the gap will narrow between range and refueling/recharging, and electric trucks will become more sensible for towing as well. Tesla has a semi after all, and they seem to be serious about heavy duty EVs.
Rivian's rear suspension looked like it was about to blow out.
To be fair to Rivian the tow rating is 11,000 lbs and this is nearly triple that. Rivian's truck has it's suspension tuned for comfort over hauling. The F350 didn't squat at all hardly because it has a higher tow rating with a stiffer suspension. However, it will ride like a brick glued to a steel beam down the road. I know because I own an F250 big block truck. It is basically trying to shake my teeth out of my skull on any bumpy road, but I love it to death when I have to haul something.
The Cybertruck's suspension was squatting basically just as much as the Rivian because 99% of the people who own it will care more about ride comfort and are never going to haul with it. Most people are idiots that buy trucks these days for them to be pavement princes and princesses for the status of "owning a truck". As such most truck makers in this class are going to tune it for comfort. This truck will be no different.
@@krisdphillipsdead on!
Bro look at the Tesla lmao
@@BaldwinNguyensee it won.
‘Ride like a brick glued to a steel beam’ is hilarious 😂
The Cybertrucks pull was impressive but the F-350 was the only one that didn’t squat under all the weight. Poor Rivian looked like it was about to be crushed.
F150 had a tow line straight out from the tail. The tow line on the cyber truck was at a near 45° angle, which lifted up a lot of the weight and allowed the truck to pull farther. Not a fair test.
@@user-xt9nt2qm1lstay mad😂
There's no tongue weight in this. This isn't a trailer.
@@dothetontim hate to break it to you. Ther very much is and always will be
Tivians are just a low end electric car made to look like a truck.
This was pretty cool. The CT is quite amazing.
Aww dood, i love Fordcore music.
The clappin, and the stampin of the ole worn boots. The fingers a snappin. Brilliant music, it really is. Timelessness in one genre
Would've been interesting to measure the current draw and battery percentage drop from A to B.
Batteries already dead lol
@mith2946 that's where they get you with electric. It can go fast but it kills the battery with a sustained load. Notice in the beginning they said the car needs to be fully charged to do this.
@@printgymnast368 It doesn't need to be fully charged, that is just point which will give you maximum power. If you floor a gas car you are also depleting your gas ridiculously fast. You get like 2 MPG when flooring.
@@mith2946 "Fuels already empty". Same thing man 💀
It's not a huge amount.
The REAL test is when WhistlinDiesel gets his hands on it
He’s gonna flip the shit out of it
The EV fire drama is real. He might be looking for a disused airport, or similiar concrete plane for some of the stunts.
Elon shitting bricks.
No he's making them. @@HRM.H
Exactly 😂
I would like to see a thermal cam of where the heat’s at in all of those. What’s harder to control? Batteries and motors or an exhaust pipe and coolant?
That Rivian looks amazing!!
They mentioned the heavier trucks have an advantage. I would have liked to see the Hummer EV included since it's got a massive 9,000 lb. curb weight.
It also doesn't help that they had street tires on the other trucks. Purposely rigged test.
@@TroySavary The CT beat everyone by such a wide margin that any discussion about advantages is mute. A more suitable tire for the F-350 might have got it 5 feet further. The CT had the bucket on the sled all the way forward and was still pulling the sled. The driver just ran out of track.
Think the hummer EV just might have won! Probably why they didn’t wanna include it ha
Why not a Caterpillar Earth Mover while you are at it. A Hummer is not in the Pickup truck class.
The CT also had the stock tires it gets from the factory so cry all you want but it won.@@TroySavary
The F350 definitely had way less squat than the others. It's clearly best suited for towing heavy loads.
Also tires make all these tests nearly irrelevant if they're not the same
It also has other thingd going for it like it comes close to the cybertrucl but it exceeds the cybertruck in ability to tow long distance. I know a guy that moved a boulder from a farm on one side of the country to the other with an f150 ann it wouldve sucked to put that in a cybertruck and have to stop more often for a long time
They ran it in 2wd
@user-zu5fe1mp9v that's what I saw too. Put it in 4wd for a real test.
@@user-zu5fe1mp9v No they didn't. You can see the front wheels spinning right when the test finishes. 1:27
There's a big thing missed here. The fact that the electric trucks are at full charge for the run whereas the diesel could be at any amount of fuel in this tank. You would need to do a comparison of half charge versus half a full tank of diesel and then keep going lower and lower because we all know the diesel will still retain doing those runs whereas the electric trucks will struggle unless they are trying to say the electric trucks are the same all the way until no charge
that is a good point as one just got stuck in the snow and a ford had to pull it out after it went down to get a chrismas tree
Very true! The electric trucks literally get weaker and weaker until they're dead. Kinda useless as a legit work truck.
They aren't trying to same it's the same. That literally why they took a large chunk of a short video to say it's on a full charge because it's not the same.
Except teslas still get 70% of torque at 10% battery lmao
@@sh0cktim3 if you've used a power tool, that's not quite how it works. In the final 20%, maybe. Otherwise you can't easily tell what your drill has while using it.
I doubt it's much of a difference really. Plaid gives you "repeatable launch", and this truck has even newer battery tech.
I think having different tires on the trucks is going to make a difference along with if traction control is on or off. Will be waiting for more independent reviews and tests.
The Cybertruck is impressive no doubt, but I would like to see a longevity performance comparison between the F350 and the Cybertruck. Have it pull that sled all day every day for a week and let's see the total distance.
Battery degradation 80% or more in 6 months. Y’all can have the cybertruck, gen 1, smart people will wait until gen 2 or 3 when solid state batteries take over the charging world.
This is such a dumb take, even for UA-cam. You don't know how battery degredation works, do you? You also have no idea that modern batteries are rated for about 300,000 miles 10% degredation under normal usage. @@SyrusLang
imagine if the truck was deleted and tuned, it would make it more fair
I dont understand why you would like to see that? A F350 is clearly not make for the same things than a Tesla or any other half tone truck actually. Have you ever drive a 350? It drives hard as a rock and its made the pull heavy stuff for years. A F150 is more for everyday use while offering a smooth drive ...and so is the Cybertruck. They shown the 350 pull just to show how strong the Cybertruck can pull, but they are not trying to say that you should buy a Cybertruck to pull 20" trailers full of bricks every day.
@@SyrusLang theyve been perfecting lithium cells a long time, i dont see it, regular tesla is supposed to still be functional at 300k miles, of course they all wont but some will, im all about choice, dont force me to buy any kind of car, my dmax has 445k still runs awesome, lets see em do that...
Meanwhile the old fire breathing Case Steam tractor built in 1905 would pull the sled into the next suburb. 😂
Can't believe they made my favorite childhood vehicle! A real pinewood Derby car 😢
Impressive ability, can't wait for 3rd party testing. The front ends on the Rivian and Tesla was comical while towing.
If you've ever watched tractor pull competitions, the best pulls have the front wheels a foot or two off the ground the entire way.
@@jbrc1322 yeah ive watched many and if they where all wheel drive they weight the front end down but put that aside the rear suspension looked weak as fuck on all the electric trucks
Why is it impressive? You can't even say why because you don't know what an impressive truck pull would look like. You're just a muskrat.
@@572patrickvanhornweak but doing better…
99% of people buying them won't be pulling that big of a load so I'm sure it's setup for comfortable riding instead
I like how they're exposing the vehicle weakness in the video, "having the vehicle fully charged is really important for peak power". You don't need that on an f350, you don't lose power over the fuel tank, you can have one gallon of fuel and full power.
this whole thing is just a goofy sham to impress muskrats. literally nobody buying a heavy duty truck cares about this nonsense.
A horse and buggy doesn't need to be charged either
@@dmurray2978 can't drive that all day
we aren't getting much done with only a gallon of fuel on a towing truck either...the 550's and 750's as work trucks can go a whopping 4-6 miles on a gallon. Though I'd still prefer ICE for a work truck, there's nothing wrong with having options and developing new technologies. Tesla has earned its flowers. @@TheDylanPlayer14
@@dmurray2978yeah just needs to rest, eat and sleep.
Chevy was pulling more in their commercials back in the 1970s and 80s.
CHEVY! 😎🇺🇸
Lol. I was waiting for a battery to explode. The cyber truck looks like a real life game glitch 😂
Would’ve been interesting to see the battery % before and after
lol 0% thats why it stopped XD
@@aidanruwaard7318like how F-150's tank got empty and stopped?
Yeah, the remaining distance after the pull would score them way differently. The tesla ev's will pass everything but a charging station.
@@Divyesh_Sinha nah, they stopped it on purpose to make the Cybertruck look better😜
@@Samuel-H or the Tesla stopped just enough to beat it and not smoke it
When the lightest truck is 6800lbs, you know we are going in the wrong direction.
It’s even funnier when you look at the sled 😂😂
It’s not digging into the ground like the others were
A third-party test would have been more convincing.
It's always interesting that whatever company makes the video to present a competition between other companies, wins at the end of the test😂😂
??? So you think this is rigged, then? Get real.
@@josh_mI bet you believe the “better than the leading brand” line in every commercial.
If i had a wallet company i certainly wouldnt market it as inferior to the competition. I just think fords commerical is going to be them racing the rwo un a time trial from san diego to miami or soemthing because theyll win with the f350
Obviously, otherwise there would be no point in making the video.
@@josh_m
Rigged? No.
Set up in non practical short test favored to the specific scenario where the product would shine? Yes.
Must be young if you believe any ad.
This is the quietest tractor pull to ever happen!
And nowhere near actual tractor pulls 😂
it was real quiet till they brought in the even cooler music for THEIR truck
@@GOOD_FARMER If i had the money, I'd buy a cybertruck and go clean up at the next competition!
@@geomissionAnd then what? You still are stuck with a cybertruck!
@@geomission The Cybertruck doesn’t even come close to the 10,000 horsepower 6000 lb-ft of torque a Super Modified Tractor can produce and with the weight those things pull the Cybertruck would struggle to even move the thing.
does the sled move based on time or the movement of the wheels on the trailer. so the weight applied is the same for all vehicles at same distance?
I'd like to see a comparison between range reduction at average tow load compared to competitors
I would be curious to see what each hitch height was. This is a big factor when displacing the sled weight as it advances to the vehicle. Giving the vechle more traction and less weight of the sled digging into the ground.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
The CT hitch looks way up there on the video but it was hard to compare.
Looked like a different length chain and moisture in the soil.
@@johanneshartman4618you think if I put 33’s on my stock 94 4Runner they’d rub without having to cut my finder. Thanks in advance and as always bless god
@@johanneshartman4618 God is supernatural stupidity.
Should have also tested the Hummer EV. Would have liked to see that.
I thought they did no?
thats what i'm saying
Definitely feel it would have been better suited for the test considering it's an ev also.... Maybe they didn't want us to see the results. 😂😂😂
@zGuy-yp6um I actually saw a video of a cyber truck racing a hummer.. I forgot which channel but the cyber truck smoked it
@blakeogeris2494 that's racing not pulling something heavy
A baking company owner once told me, "True, we bring our best bread to contests - the kind that we would never sell in stores. However, it is still a fair competition because our competitors do the same. The point is, the one who can make the best contest bread, can make best everyday bread." That being said, since when have car makers' ads been honest? If you find them fun to watch, great, and the rest is a matter of what it will be like in real life.
Dang, that f250 really impressed me. And I can fill up anywhere? Might need to get me one of those. Thanks for the tip guys 😊
The f250 is literally one of the most useless trucks out there 😂
That thing is not good in offroad, has no huge loading capacity and is not durable at all
@@Mitchhhh honestly I prefer ram. just hating on tesla for fun
From what I can see the Tesla's hitch seems to be higher because it's pulling the front of the sled up and off and off the ground. This makes a huge difference in pulling the sled. In an actual truck pull each hitch has to be exactly the same height there's a standard.
They only showed the f150 and the Tesla hitch height. The rivian and 350…no views of the hitch.
Doubt they adjusted the hitch heigh per truck per the truck pull rules.
Good observation. I wonder
This needs to be the top comment.
To be fair, Tesla cars are insane. I've been in the all-wheel drive Tesla Model X, and from zero to 100 there's no other American production car on the road that can beat it, the speed and power and torque. It's nuts.
@@etownumpsure but not for long distances.. when tesla driver decide he wanna go fast i will never catch.. i have problem when they purposly drive extra slow on highway to extend range disregarding the normal trafic flow. I have seen them driving slower than a loaded trucks..
"for on road towing like towing your boat and towing your camper" And also great for towing raptor engines!
It also really good for Hava
Except the gas powered trucks can tow for hundreds of miles on a tank of gas. The cybertruck will be able to do like 100 miles
@@TheOtherClips
Like f-350 ?
However you should Test the cybertruck before giving numbers
At least Test a Rivian mileage while towing compared to no towing
Unfortunately it cant tow more weight than the used Silverado I'm buying for one fifth the price. Anyone want my preorder?
@@TheOtherClips 420mi. is definetly enough you dont need 10,000. and the CT has a upgraded charging sytem it can recharge full on a level 4 charger under 30min
I can't agree enough with so many that have mentioned the ability to pull this sled one time as mentioned from point A-B and do it once twice or three times! I can almost bet you that there would be a huge difference between the first pull and the second and then the 4th and 7th etc that would equal the pull distance say of some of the California Sierras but I also know that the regeneration in the big rig versions is nearly completely recharging there batteries when they reach the other side however what would happen when you head to the central plain states where you go from sea level to 5k elevation and stay there for a thousand miles?
Also a quick question why didn't they use the Dodge truck? It is if not the torque king it's very close and I am a Powerstroke fan in heart but have to give Dodge huge props for their motors and tow-torque (just haven't looked at them recently to compare).
I would really like to know if the hitch heights were all identical
they really need to do this test with all trucks fitted with the same style aggressive mud tire like the cybertruck. the F150 comes with a very highway oriented smooth tire, and the R1T has a mild highway and offroad all terrain tire, and the F350 generally has also a very highway oriented tire. on softer or clayish surfaces like this, a more aggressive knobbly tire does lend better to towing tractive effort especially with pulling a sled. also i wonder if they ran them all with the same drawbar height. also affects how much that skid anchors relative to pull
Yup, this was not exactly apples to apples. They needed to be fitted with similar tires. Even in the end he spoke about how important traction was.
Tell me how the cybertruck's wheels were more aggressive? They all have similar tires. The cybertruck tires aren't more off road.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
A better test would be like the video games but it would be sketchy to drag a weightnup an ever increasi g inclide to see which makes it farther up and have everyone survive
Yup agree my lightning tires are highway oriented
Take note of the "fully charged" comment. The implication being that these trunks can't always pull this far. Only when full. Unlike ice vehicles. The 350 will pull the same until the last drop of fuel is spent
Until overheat 💀
@KamilWoda lol it's not gonna overheat
Heat soak is a thing.....they do lose.some efficiency the longer you drive them especially in hot weather.
@@CumDrinker1it's funny when the check engine light comes on for lower end ice trucks while pulling a load. It usually is the coolant temperature being too high. Requiring a fluid change to play it safe and keep warranty.
@@KamilWodajust like an electric motor. 🤷
It also depends on how much weight the sled is loaded with which directly compares with how much money you give him.
3 electric motors, the most high-performance model of Cybertruck... I think it's a natural result.
But know this, electric motors can never beat the emotion that an engine gives to us.. :)
"only at the cost of 50 miles of range!"
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
While this is great, at the end of the day, I think the average person cares more about how far you can tow something rather than can it tow a house! While I have no plans on buying a pickup, I was really hoping the Cybertruck would be able to tow 6,000 lbs for let's say 200 miles. Based on its battery size, I'll be stunned if it could do so for 150 miles.
Bingo.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
The average person cares whether or not they can replace parts on their vehicle without taking out a loan for propriety parts and software. I love the idea of EV's, but they are a right to repair NIGHTMARE. Everything is proprietary, everything is expensive.
I was hoping to get 6000lbs for 300 miles.
The average person doesn't tow. Even here in Australia I see more utes on the road without tow balls/hitches than with, and I'm in Western Australia, the capital of truck owners.
Bottom line is the CT is more than a little impressive. It's a beast.
And we can rest assured about a legitimate test lol… because we haven’t seen skewed tests by manufacturers before.
And the heaviest thing they will ever haul is gonna be groceries
😂
This is true for all of the vehicles shown here.
True in America, if you want to be more politically accurate the Driver of the truck is probably the heaviest the truck will ever pull
Haha, exactly. But this was specifically organized and filmed to shut the diesel heads up, as they cope with the fact that the world is changing and that innovation is brining products that can literally compete at all the manly stuff that they are used to, oh there is one thing that the CB cant do, and that's to coal roll people on the road. Good riddance.
@@Random-yq1wu Thanks for making me smile (and sadly making an astute observation).
This is like watching a bunch of weightlifters argue who can lift the most weight but they can't run for more than a few mins
Haha, yes. But not really, the CT kills a 911 on the dragstrip while towing a 911. So it can sprint as well.
@@Maarten_vd you're still fully agreeing with him, he's talking about range, not sprinting down a drag strip
@@HealthySuccessfulHabits-zo5oc ooh, range. That is max 340 miles with a range extender as an extra option. So we can say, this CT is a jack of all trades.
@@Maarten_vdNow let’s see them do it with a Turbo S instead 🤔 or something like an SF-90 just for the science
@@Maarten_vdNot towing any load let alone a sled. If you want a EV vehicle, just buy a car.
I've been waiting for this. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
No one that is ever going to drive a cybertruck will ever tow anything, they won't even use the bed
My record with a trailer is 1150 miles in a single day. Not surprised nobody is talking about range under load
did 1306 miles this weekend, 19hours... only stoped for fuel and 30 min to load a car. ram 2500. No way in hell I could ever do that in an electric truck. They have thier place but not suited for the long haul.
Yup, did 1400 miles in 16 hours with a 7.3 Powersroke E350 extended van that was full to the headliner with cargo and hauling a loaded car trailer behind it. Never turned it off once in the journey, just splashed fuel in it and kept hitting it hard.
@@jerry07dx55 Land rover EV conversion with a 170kw battery goes from Wales UK to Sweden... charges on Tesla, Porsche, Ionty and other chargers... fin it on youtube.
Tires also play a huge roll in a tractor pull, curious on the tire options. Also curious about the software setup, just guessing the Cybertruck had some software tweaks for putting down power vs. the others.
all vehicles were stock so if it came "untweaked" and shitty tires then that's what you get. My 2010 Tacoma came with worthless tires but I'm not gonna change the original ones until they wear out... as I don't do a lot of mileage, it took 11 years! Lol
Ive seen enough reporters and reviewers caught lying to know these things are rarely fair and unbias. All just "entertainment" companies.
@@yvongauthier4409 By "stock" you mean "With pointless modes put in the car for specific R&D test performance"?
Cybertruck definitely has better off-road tires on it (yes I know stock) than the others
It's incredible how opposing people are to electric vehicles. So much so that any unreasonable doubt or ignorant statement always gets attention.
All vehicles were straight from the factory, stock, new, untweaked, unchanged, default settings. Tires matter, but you pay for what you get.
That's the statement. The truth is, Tesla won this truck pull.
If there are organisations other than tesla that typically do truck pulls or other strength tests, I'd like to see them evaluate the Cybertruck without Tesla's influence.
As an F-350, SRW Diesel owner, I'll admit this is very impressive! That said, my two greatest concerns for an E-truck are #1) Range as a function of payload and towing load.
#2) Options for off-grid charging. - If one tows a large camper into the boonies and discovers they lack enough charge to return, what then? With gas or Diesel, it is resolved with a can or two of fuel. With the E-truck, it requires bringing a generator, and a BIG one at that, PLUS even more gas to cover the energy conversion losses. The long bed F-350's fuel capacity is 48 gallons. Without towing,no payload and conservative driving, I've gone 900 miles without stopping for fuel (20 MPG), and over 500 miles without stopping. With a 10k trailer and average aerodynamics, this may drop to 12 or 13 MPG. That still enables a range of over 570 miles. Many trucks (including mine often do entail driving long ranges while towing. To really break into this market, Tesla, Ford, Rivian, etc. must offer a backup solution that preemptively addresses the off-grid charging issue.
Tesla's home charging circuit is rated for 80 Amps at 240 Volts. (19.2 kiloWatts). Small RV generators are a tenth that size, while the larger ones are a fifth that size. They run 120, not 240 Volts. A transformer could double the (single phase) voltage coming from an existing RV generator. This would at enable a much slower, but still valid means of off grid charging. I know it's a bastard solution to resort to petroleum for off-grid. But there is currently no other viable alternative.
Charging stations will be build. Just like gas stations were build. Towing power will improve, as will everything else that is inside of a car. I am sure horse riders had concerns that, if they had to travel for three days to get to the next city, they might run out of gas, but the horses can just eat grass anywhere. Just like there is a gas station every two blocks in all direction, EV charging stations will be everywhere. Only thing that will be different is you don't have to drive through thick cancer causing smoke. And yes pollution will be made somewhere, just not right next to your nose. And you wouldn't be one of the 60 thousand people dying from car crash, when AI start driving the cars.
@@imharbingerI know that the infrastructure WILL be built. But I distinguish between what WILL BE versus WHAT IS. If your favorite car maker starts selling a hydrogen powered car, would you buy it - TODAY? Or, would you want more infrastructure to be in place so that you can actually use it? While the situation for EVs is far better than hydrogen, you get the idea. For long distance driving and especially for off grid use, the infrastructure just isn't there yet. Another unaddressed item that I mentioned is the shortfall in refuel/recharge when off grid. Here is a real world example:
A couple years ago, the news report about an accident on the interstate between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. All lanes were blocked for hours and it was 100F+ outside. So, a lot of people rand their A/C while waiting. By the time the jam was finally cleared, a large number of vehicles, and especially EVs were out of energy and unable to drive. For those out of gas, roadside assistance of a compassionate driver could return with a gallon of gas, problem solved. But for the EVs, well they were SOL.They had to wait their turn to be towed to a charging station.
Now consider you've driven into a sparsely populated area, and you lack the energy to make it to a charging station. The vehicle quits on a rough, 4wd dirt road, part way to a charging station. What's your solution? For those of us who travel to remote areas in western states for Summer activities (e.g. Nevada, Utah, Wyoming), we'd want to KNOW the answer, and preferably it is one which does not entail towing or needing to bring a large generator and paying that person to wait for hours while it's charging.
One aid would be that the Cybertruck has TWO battery packs.= the main one plus a much smaller, removable/swappable one. This would at least enable a rapid solution analogous to a gas can.
@@gregparrott "One aid would be that the Cybertruck has TWO battery packs." It actually has, or at least, it can. Roadside assistence can have the 'range extender' with them, when helping electric cars like the CT. But because this market is still small, that isn't happening yet. There you are correct. But you have to start somewhere; see the comparison between hoses and cars above. In a few years, road assistence cars will have general range extenders, with adapters, to fit on all electric cars. In a sparsely populated area, where there aren't many charging stations, indeed, I still would buy a fossil fuel car, probably. Fact is, there is a market for electric/hydrogen cars, and that will not go away. Also a fact is, that eventually, fossil fuel cars _will_ go away. Be it not in my lifetime.
@@mpmpm Thanks for the info on range extenders. At least some effort appears to have been made to handle an off-grid dead battery issue. Now, if only the energy density of a battery was reasonably close to that of gasoline or Diesel, (both in terms of weight and volume), we'd be well on our way to a solution
Теперь ждем видео от форда с гонкой с прицепом на сутки где он ушатывает в хлам кибер трак тесла !!!)))
This is perfect! My job involves pulling heavy trailers with no wheels 300ft in the dirt about once an hour.
It’s a drag sport not intended to show work conditions. My 3 year old son loves watching tractor pull
@@godgoldgunsngolf6733seems like your 3 year old is the target demographic as it was designed by his fellow 3 year olds.
@@bandwagon240fuck, that was a spicy reply 😂
retrd take.
@@tri00azerath Ehh not really. Anyone who thinks the cyber truck is an intended work truck to begin with is the idiot. My 3 year old even knows that
I have always wondered how those kind of sleds worked and now i know!
Smarter Every Day has an entire episode on tractor pulls and spends a lot of time on the details of how the sled works.
same, i always thought if you could even move it, you could tow it indefinitely. or that you towed until the truck gave up or something.
@@matthewconnor5483 Came here to say the same thing. Destin did a fabulous job (as always) teaching about tractor pulls!
Additional suggestion for Smarter Every Day.
As others have said, Smarter Every Day’s video on this topic is excellent. It’s one of my favorite channels.
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The minecraft truck looks hilarious 😂
It nailed this test! What other tests have we got?
I'd like to see them pull 10 times in a row and see which one is still going..
I would like to see an f350 tow a cyber truck from dan diego to miami racing agaisnt a cyber truck towing an f350. I bet you the f350 wins. That right there is proof
Now let's test something really important - how long can one go with fully loaded truck
The Rivian looks so damn cool.
What makes truck pulls cool is the sound and black smoke of a diesel, they let the cybertruck win
It’s gonna need intense testing for all those Walgreens groceries it’s gonna be pulling 😂
That's the thing I find hilarious about these types of videos...The comments section is always filled with just dads comparing their trucks even though they'll never ever actually use their truck for this shit😂 It's like they just like knowing how their expensive truck compares to other expensive trucks on the road...because...ego and too much money probably lol
If that ain’t the truth. Can’t wait to see all the social media pics of guys putting 3 bags of potting soil in the bed and caption it “putting this beast to work”
I noticed the Cyber truck did not keep level and as the sled weight moved forward the rear of the truck really fell down and the front went up a lot! If they adjust the suspension to keep the truck more level it would have had an easier time pulling.
Also, tires matter on this event so it would have been good to have similar treaded tires on all vehicles.
They say they went with factory stock tires on all trucks. The squatting was a bit concerning.
They couldnt use similar tires, then the f350 would have won.
It's down to the suspension. I doubt they intend the Cybertruck to pull 30k lbs., so it doesn't have the suspension to deal with it. Whereas a heavy duty will have leaves that make the unladen ride uncomfortable, but more capable to tow large weights.
Yeah, it was a fixed competition to begin with. All the trucks shouldn't have had equal setup in tires. That is like putting summer tires on a car and driving in the snow. 😅😅😅😅😅😅
using stock tires is the most realistic competition they could do though if you consider that the average person would just tow with their regular tires they get from factory, i think the data has some good truths to it that allow you to deduce on your own to make a decision@@boostedscooby1
Well that was a good run now we gotta go recharge it 😂
How`s that transmission in the f350... ?
this is all great, and i do love the cybertruck. a question i have is that is is more reliable than a Toyota?
Went from 100% battery to 30% in that pull
I'm guessing you never driven an electric car? 😂 thats not how it works kid
@@CreateYourWorth😂😂😂 so true!
How many times pulls the tesla succesively the sled before overheating its cable motor etc😂😂😂the diesel pulls and pulls and pulls 😂😂😂e junk
@@CreateYourWorthare you suggesting electric vehicles dont waste unfathomable amounts of energy towing heavy loads? 😂😂😂😂
@@CreateYourWorththat's how sarcasm works kiddo
Wow, that’ll be great…..for the first 11 miles of the trip.
🤣
While all these leisure pickups are stupid as fuck, I gotta ask you: how many miles do you pull a tractor pulling sled on an average day?
A totally non biased showcase of pulling power.
Okay so with the tractor pulls, does the tractor in the back engage the brakes and that’s why the trucks slow down?
or how does it work?
because if the trucks can pull it right off the line why would they then slow to a stop?
i’m genuinely curious.
There's the rub. When he said they all had to be fully charged because that is when they are at it's peak power/pulling ability. So as far as i'm concerned the F-350 won because it will pull that at 1/4 of a tank of fuel where as the Cyber Truck probably won't. Let's see that test.
And the F-350 can always tow the others to the charging station...vs the other way around
@@tompetrushka1627they can’t tow it to a gas station??
also the F-350 has the added advantage of not looking like an autistic childs drawing
Anyone hating on Tesla or Elon will be left behind in more ways than one and i say good riddance to the haters and the naysayers.
@@AM-dq8on nah Tesla and Elon suck, other EV companies are doing good work
Jeez growing up in the very first tractor pull according to grandpa that’s impressive. I can show you the first field of battle between two tractors tied;)
I see implemented tools coming for farming look out Ford.
@@jackcobbiii1797lies
wrr
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
For basically a base model F350 it did damn good
Not just that it wasn't even a 2023 model. This isn't even close to apples to apples
@@nickloveshollyyou act like there's been some massive innovation in the platform! Essentially the same truck for the past 5 years lol
@@currincook6422My conclusion is that if they'd used the 2023 F-350 6.7L Turbo diesel of 500bhp tune, like all top of the range EV trucks, it may outdo the Cyber truck or atleast all other EV trucks, that's why they did that on purpose.
@@currincook6422 wrong. The right configuration of a superduty or any other 1 ton truck will pull more than the cybertruck. Of course they didn't have the right configuration for obvious reasons, else the whole point of this video would be pointless lol.
edit: NOT an apples to apples comparison as the guy says in the video.
@@nickloveshollycry me a river 😂
can't wait for WhistlinDiesel test :D
He'll just destroy it for clicks.
Like he does everything else.
He's a boring one-trick-pony.
@@paulrybarczyk5013 he actually tests vehicles till they get destroyed showing true durability and potential, look at the Hilux videos, almost all modern "pickups" wouldnt even go through half of what the Hilux did
@@sl4y3r I didn't learn much about Hilux "true durability". I already knew they get destroyed when crashed or crushed or dropped from helicopters. 🙄
Выглядит он конечно отвратильно. Как самоделка. Как будто в Топ Гир его конструировали
Looking forward to the winter sequel.
Y'all thought you could fool us. Good job with the aerial shot lol. This is not equivalent to an actual truck/tractor pull, there are only 3 weight slots taken up out of 12-14, you just adjusted the waits to make it work and make it look like a stock pickup truck could do a real pull.
that was not the point, the point was to let us see the performance of the CT relative to these other cars. Nobody cares if it could do a full pull or not.
Nobody cares.
My brother these are not tractors
wish they showed us how much battery was left after that 1 pull and how it preforms in the different driving modes.. willing to bet that was done in "ludacris" mode
From my ignorant guess, I'd say 90% left.
@@alejandroperez5368probably 98-99%. It’s a few hundred feet. A few hundred ridiculously heavy feet. To get 90% it would be using kilowatt hour per second. The motors are not remotely capable using that much energy.
@@qwerty112311 so you'd bet the car could perform the pull other 50 times ?
Sir, I award you 10,000 points for using a Spaceballs reference. haha
@@alejandroperez5368 All you have to do is look at a model S Plaid 1/4 mile energy usage per run and it should be similar due to the truck having a bigger battery but the pull going on longer I bet.
Plaid uses around 3% for the 1/4 mile at full pace .
Tesla is always about pulling ,speed but never talks about range, refueling time frame ,range performance in the winter .real work trucks ,for real working needs, in the real world.
They took a Tesla to Nurburgring to beat the lap record, even rented a diesel generator but you don't hear anything about that do you? That's because it handled like a drunk turtle and ate tires like a car in a demo derby. This is all Tesla rigged tests, to fool the college kids into thinking they are somehow invincible. You don't here how them tout how much it costs to change the battery do you?
Pulls pretty great actually.. but I’d be afraid of a family vacation with a big camper behind it for hundreds of miles. I could see that trip being a hassle 😅
Anyone who’s watched a sled pull knows you have to rev to get power. The only truck they stepped on the accelerator on was the cyber truck 😂
Thats not how electric vehicles work, you cant "rev" them like in combustion engines. They "rev" instantly, 100% power
@@KittyCat-YTThey feathered every throttle EXCEPT the CT. That diesel wasn't leaving the 2k rpm range
@@moreuggaduggas Is that why the front wheels are spinning and jumping? Because it is just creeping along at 2k RPM? Is that why when it drives past the camera you can hear the high revs?
yeah idk why people are so mad over it@@Evirthewarrior
@@SSSLYDE They have deluded themselves into thinking that diesel or gas powered engines(their preference) are the best in all situations and must jump to the conclusion that there must be some sort of trickery. Electric engines are not the best in all situations ether, but they have huge advantages in specific applications.
It looked like both the rivian and cybertruck's front wheels came up off the ground and steering controls were momentarily lost. There is something to be said about putting a large diesel engine over the front wheels to help give more leverage when pivoting the payload's weight about the rear wheels. It seams like there is a compromise to be made, do you engineer for cornering/handling by putting the battery in the middle or towing by putting it up front and using heavy duty leaf springs in the rear.
Honestly impressed but ain’t no way in hell will I be towing anything once I get mine !!!
Better make sure that Desiel is fully charged too 😂😂😂😂
If the other trucks had off road tires like the cybertruck. I think the results will be quite different
Stock tires on cybertruck aren't off road
@@AM-dq8on theres an obvious tread difference that would give an advantage.
F-350 looked the sexiest pulling that trailer with out it being looked like its being crushed
My question isn't necessarily how much it can pull but how well does it stop if say your driving down the highway and someone cuts you off, or even in town and a kid runs out in front of you. How does it compare to that?
Show me a comparison with all these trucks pulling the same weighted trailer on a 1000 mile run and let's see which is more efficient... 👀🍿
Definitely impressive but that range drawdown must be insane.
Hardly a long term issue though. On-the-go charging can’t be far around the corner if EV uptake continues to increase.
@@bb5979 lmao ok
The cybertruck is impressive technically, and there are some pretty cool engineering work that went in to it. Its a shame the same lvl of effort didnt follow the truck in terms of its exterior and interior design tho.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!❤
how long are you and people like you gonna keep talking about the look? IT'S OVER. they didn't listen to you!
@@KristopherBaker Just because its getting released doesnt mean the design isnt horrible lol. There are plenty of extremely poorly designed/built cars on the roads today.
esthetically? I mean the f150 and 350 look fucking hideous tho. Its like they r from 50 years ago straight up. As a young person I cant stand looking cars that dont look from the decade im from, but are new cars. Cybertruck is fking weird for sure, but they definitely put "EFFORT" as you said into its design. After all, taste is subjective.@@Kerman_von_Braun
@@ihavenoidea4727 I mean, im from EU so trucks arent really my thing in general. Idk man, i feel like i could knock that design out in about 1h in SolidWorks if i wanted to. Im sure the manufacturing process took effort to set up, but the design it self looks like it was done by an unpaid intern lol. Tho realistically, Elon probably did it him self and then showed his ''design'' to the engineers and told them to figure it out.
Them batteries were glowing red hot😂😂😂😂😂
Just wait till whistlin diesel gets his hands on one of these💀
It'd be nice to see how much that drained the battery lol
Thats what ive been saying the whole time. They show these crazy things the electric trucks are doing but how bad is that hurting battery power? They literally said in this video that the trucks need to be at full charge because thats when you get peak power. A regular ICE engine truck is at peak power no matter how much gas is in it.
@@itsjohn7848nobody is debating that gas is better in terms of fuel economy. These are things that will be ironed out over time. They aren't going to solve every problem overnight. I do think that something better will come along to replace typical batteries or batteries tech will get to a point where they can squeeze a lot more power into a smaller form factor. I also think portable batteries may be a thing. But no one is arguing that electric is better than gas right now
I agree with you that technology will come along that will improve electric trucks and i think there will be a day where range and power are not as much of an issue when it comes to towing for electric vehicles. Tech keeps evolving. However, i cant agree with you that nobody is saying electric is better than gas. Just watch this video alone. There are so many people that believe electric is better than gas but it simply just hasn't yet reached that point. We’re not there. At least not yet.
@@itsjohn7848 nah fam. Electric has its advantages especially when u talk about torque, but we definitely know they can't compare when it comes to things like range. Anyone arguing that, u shouldn't listen to. I think electric definitely has the potential to be better but we not there yet. But it is funny how technology works tho. Think about CDs. That tech only lasted like a decade or two. SD cards was always the better option but the tech wasn't there yet and it was too expensive at the time. CDs served as a cheap alternative in the meantime until the cost of storage went down. Not SD is the standard. I see something similar like that happening with electric. This may just be a stop gap until some better knew tech comes along that is more economical and more productive.
yes but ice smell awful@@itsjohn7848
How far do you imagine this truck could get down the road after this pull?
Parking lot😅
Assuming it was at 100%... The rest of the 99% remaining
Plenty far.
That's a good question. You'll clearly use far more energy to tow anything. After just exceeding the tow capacity of every one of these vehicles by about 30,000 pounds I would expect the EVs to have drained a significant amount of their battery power. Yes, of course the diesel used more fuel but you'll likely still have hundreds of miles remaining until empty. The F150 Lightning has already shown in videos to get terrible towing "fuel economy". These vehicles, at best, are good for job sites where you can plug them in at the end of the day after jaunting around a limited area with stuff in the bed and are not good in any real life capacity for towing trailers thousands of miles. The F350 diesel would be the only intelligent choice for long range.
hey dude, i get that u have a car just like the whole world, urs is nicer ofcourse.. but does it make u happy? i dont think so. the bible says since adam sinned against GOD were all cursed with death, spiritually and our body, and our soul in hell forever, the second adam who was without sin, the reverse adam JESUS CHRIST GODS SON DIED for all the sins of the whole world AS a sacrifice, so there is forgiveness and if we believe HIM fully in our Heart we can be baptized and GOD will ressurect us and give us a ALIVE SPIRIT wich will make us ALIVE!!!!!!!!
It's super cool until you realize your 350 mile range is now only 50 miles