What the FRACK Happened to GALACTICA 1980?
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My father-in-law Ronald Gilbert Satlof (now deceased), was the director of the “Return of Starbuck” episode. Ron was reportedly good friends with Galactica creator Glen Larson (Ron used to say that Larson wrote an early version of the Battlestar pilot script while a guest on Ron’s sailboat moored in Marina Del Rey). I recall Ron was especially pleased that the Starbucks episode was such a ratings hit when it first aired. It was always my favorite, too. Thanks for putting this behind-the-scenes video together. Haven’t seen “1980” since, well, 1980.
The reason for the emphasis on Dr. Zee, the scouts, the time travel stuff and the 7pm time slot was that the show was aimed at kids.
I was one of the little kids they were marketing to and I haaaated Dr Zee. Then and now. 😂 I did love Boxy and Muffit in the original show though. I even had a Muffit action figure who was my Barbie's pet.
@@grannyweatherwax8005 Yeah, I didn't care much for the show myself, except for the Starbuck episode. I was a bit older than the target audience in 1980. I had a chance to see the "real" Muffet at the Universal Studio tour. I don't know if was the same chimp though. :-) Cylons all over the tour, and pieces of sets lying around the back lot.
Even though he wasn’t a part of this series, RIP Terry Carter (Colonel Tigh) December 16, 1928 - April 23, 2024 😢
He was on NBC's MacCloud 🤠 too. NYPD det, Joe.
Immortalised on both large.. ans small screen.
I hadn't heard he passed, he was great on that show
He was my favorite character on the show.
I believe he had moved to Holland?
That episode with Starbuck is the best and only really memorable episode of this series.
I totally agree.
Robinson Caruso in space. 😊
The return of Starbuck episode made it all worth while! It was a great way to close out the original series!
A very sad one too: did we really want to see Starbuck stranded and all alone in that planet? It makes you want to turn the clock back to the original series and relive the good old days of being with the GALACTICA family…
On a related note, Terry Carter, who played Colonel Tigh, recently passed away at age 95. RIP Terry Carter
I hope he knew how much he touched many of our childhoods. Col. Tigh, Starbuck, and Apollo, were a triumvirate of positive male role models, to me.
Dirk Benedict makes fun of BSG in the A-team intro when a cylon at a theme park walks past him 😂
I was always hoping to see the A-Team episode where they had that scene, and they never did! It turned out they just filmed it for the credits. Darn!
He was like, "Don't I know you from somewhere?" LOL.
Also, talk about what happened to The Greatest American Hero.
I have a cape, shirt, and instruction manual along with the metal boxes series set. Very cool!
Well alllright.
I was part of the write in campaign to bring back Battlestar Galactica.
Troy and Dillon were like the guys who replaced Bo and Luke Duke
Dirk Benedict is a really nice guy. He signed my Galactica Storybook. Good old *$.
I still can't figure out why Starbuck was marooned on that planet, given that he had a perfectly good Cylon ship at his disposal at the end of the episode.
It was like replacing Bo and Luke Duke from The Dukes of Hazzard!
People had more common sense than those producers thinking it would ever take off! Everyone knew after they announced it it was over!
@@quantumfx2677Not everyone. You can't speak for all of BSG fandom.
That Starbuck episode was a mix to me of Robinson crisoe and enemy mine.
That episode with Starbuck left an impression. Maybe I related his being stranded reflects how I feel sometimes.
It was like a well written Twilight Zone episode.
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire Starbuck...
& he brought Mister T !
While 1980 was airing, I was at a party in SF and ran into Glen Larson who asked me what I thought about 1980. I don't recall exactly what I said, but I think it was carefully guarded way of saying I didn't like it. And my memory says that Larson agreed that it wasn't very good - but his defense was that he was following orders and didn't have very much time to put the show together.
Dan: Don’t remember Galactica 1980? Loved original series. Sad story: I was so hyped that Sunday night for network debut of Battlestar Galactica as a kid made my own dinner (Campbell’s Bean with Bacon soup and peanut butter/honey sandwich, large milk) why am I being so specific? My go to meal. Also, unfortunately in my rush to get downstairs to watch I missed a step and my meal ended up painting the walls and then getting into the carpet. Mom was not pleased. Missed it or missed most or basically felt so bad couldn’t enjoy it anyway. Luckily, streaming allows me to watch it now with no regrets!! Hope your experience was better. Bill
As a kid, I loved it, especially, the turbocycles!
I love Galactica 1980. It's important to watch it at a time separately from a regular BSG rewatch. It compares well or better than many of the other Earth-bound adventure shows of the era. I bought both Galacrtia 1980 and BSG on Prime Video.
I was excited when Galactica 1980 aired but not so excited after I watched it.
As a kid, I liked this show. It still holds a special place in my heart. The biggest problem other than the budget, was that the network treated all sci-fi as a kids show. In some ways I think this was really 3 shows. First was the time travel show from the pilot. Second was the space scouts / kids show. Third was the Return of Starbuck.
There were a few times, that the Starbuck flashback episode was shown as a separate TV movie. For a while, it was called "Starbuck's Great Adventure". A casual viewer might have even missed the fact that it was Galactica related. I didn't mind G-80. As a kid, it was a crumb, the tiniest morsel, that I was still willing to cling on to. It was kinda cool seeing the guy from the K-Tel commercials. (Wolfman Jack ) However, looking back, it was just too Glen A Larson, and it borders on painful. However, the flying motorcycles, no matter how ridiculous and possibly even the cloaking Vipers, will never not be cool. The Viper snow landings were very cool.
And here I've been operating under the belief that the episode with Starbuck was an unfinished regular episode that they shoehorned into the new show.
A couple if interesting points I liked they did well; they introduced a NEW generation of Cylon raider, somewhat larger and updated. And Galactica team created a new ship to combat the Cylons. Sort of saucer-like. Some good story potential had the show continued. Would be worth mentioning Richard's attempt to bring the show back with his home-made pilot he put together. Very slick.
The 7pm timeslot was the reason for the kids on the show. Episodes about pollution and sportsmanship were made thus getting away from the original concept.
Great show, Dan. Two things, I still remember the diner scene where they order coffee and ask what's in it and when told the response was like, "You people drink beans?"
The second thing is in your timeline, don't forget that although _Battlestar Galactica_ ended 29 April 1979 over in Universal Studios Hollywood on 9 June 1979 they premiered the *Battle of Galactica* attraction as part of the Studio Backlot Tour and it was kept open until sometime in 1992. So, the franchise hadn't completely disappeared. BTW, Dan, something right up your alley, one of the original Cylon animatronics from the ride was found in 2014. It was in the basement under _The Simpson's Ride_ that stood where the *Battle of Galactica,* had been. How cool is that? It was later sold at auction in 2020.
The Starbuck episode was the "Rogue One" of the Battlestar Galactica franchise.
one of the main issues with the show? it was broadcast sunday nights at 7 PM ET / 6PM CT. It was made for "kiddies". Therefore they kinda dumbed it down.
The Cylons heard rap music in it's infancy and called off the war stating that humans have way many more problems to deal with in the future. 😅
Hey Dan, your audience wants to start a "how cool is that" drinking game. You down?
How cool is that? A drinking game!
IIRC both Galactica and 1980 had Sunday time slots which were routinely interrupted for football. Heck, the pilot episode when originally aired was interrupted like 15 minutes before the end by the Camp David Peace Accords signing. Too bad the Galactica crew never found out about the Cylon's one weakness, microwave ovens. And if you recall, the second season of "Buck Rogers", anothe Larson project, had the plotline that was revers of Galactica with the Earth Ship Searcher looking for tribes of humans lost in the post-atomic horror.
That's why I think Galactica and the Searcher might as well have met up for the reunion with Earth. Buck Rogers Earth didn't appear to have a war machine, but it's better than finding Earth in 1980.
ABC network didn’t broadcast any Sunday NFL games in 1979 or 1980.
Galactica 1980 really did Starbuck dirty... What they did to "party boy" Starbuck was a sentence to Purgatory, and REALLY made me ANGRY (as angry as seeing "Sam Beckett never returned home" on my TV screen [too well-known to be a spoiler])...
The flying cycles became "CHIPS in Space"... ;-P
"Troy" was supposedly Boxey's true name, and "Boxey" was a nickname that he tries to live down (no explanation given for the name in OG Galactica)...
"Galactica:1980" was really just a bunch of felgercarb that they just fracked up... ;-P
Turns out, there were two actors who played Doctor Zee.
The first one was Robbie Rist, who looked exactly like John Denver, right down to the glasses. (performed only in the pilot.)
After that, the actor James Patrick Stuart played Doctor Zee for the rest of the episodes.
The first guy looked like the milky bar kid
Too bad they didn't think to have Barry VanDyke dancing with Penquins!
HEY DAN MONROE...DO YOU REMEMBER A SHORT-LIVED television show in the late 70's about a space garbage man named "Quark"? It starred Richard Benjamin as the title character and a host of aliens in the same vein as Star Wars cantina scene. A few "droids" were thrown in to complete the ensemble. The funniest part of the show was his spaceship. It totally looked like a garbage truck with the huge hopper on the back. Im not sure the show even made it past an entire first season. I enjoy the channel and never miss an episode. Thanks.😢
I watched Quark.
I watched that when I was a kid too. I think they even did a Mirror Mirror type episode too.
"There are no good plants, there are no bad plants, there are only...plants."
~Ficus
Starbuck was my favorite episode. They should have explained the fates of the rest of the OG cast.
It was explained with a throwaway line about sons and daughters who didn't survive.
Actually, I agree with you Big Guy, the Starbuck episode was the best of that run. Can still see the showdown between the Cylons in my mind... haven't seen it for years. the joys of being a sci-fi kid..
The Halloween/Wolfman Jack episode is pretty great also, but for different reasons 😂
I have the entirety of Battlestar Galactica on DVD. The movie, the TV series, and Galactica 1980. I absolutely love it. 80 has its flaws, but I still love it. Those motorcycles were just awesome.
Interesting tidbit, it’s been a while, so I can’t remember exactly where in the mix it was, but somewhere, in a shot, where we see the ragtag fleet of ships, the ship from Silent Running is one of the ships you see onscreen as part of the fleet.
The fandom didn’t need this after a huge letter writing campaign to bring the epic adventure back again ! Galactica 1980: Adama’s really bad dream, thank the lords for “The Return of Starbuck “
However, as a 14 year old i really loved it. Especially the “wolfman jack” scene is stuck inside my memory.😊
Galactica was a great memory of my youth. I would have liked to have a Cylon Raider or a Centurion, but at that time, I don't remember having any products from the series in my country. Finally, I bought all the DVD sets of three series, even if BSG 1980 is really not great.
RIP Terry Carter....
Yeah, 95 years young. Wow!
😔😔😔🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I still liked it as I was starved for anything space related then. Another episode I really liked was the 2 part "Cylons on Earth" episodes which features Wolfman Jack and Lara Parker from "Dark Shadows" fame. Speaking of, Dan, you should really do an episode on Dark Shadows, the original TV series as it has movies, music & monsters spawn from it.
Another excellent presentation! Reliving all these great shows really takes me back. I feel almost like a kid again! Thank you for this!!!
Galactica 1980 has a special spot in my heart called 'disappointment'. This show was the first time that TV pulled a bait and switch on me.
The one with Wolf Man Jack was ok.
Battlestar GALACTICA was great (for its time), but GALACTICA 1980 was what happens when studios get involved, cut budgets, rewrites or removes everything the audience loves and fills it with pablum.
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Dan, You do a great job on these vids, I'm about six or seven years older than you, but love many of the same shows and movies you highlight.
the one good show they had was The Return of Starbuck!
the emblems on the collar of the Viper pilots are the US Army Military Intelligence MOS(Army job) Insignia(symbol)
Upside-down.
Galactica 1980 was simply terrible. What possessed them to make it all about a group of young kids I will never know. It was bad enough that they had to film it in 'present day' America, but it was as if they were going out of their way to make it as bad as possible. Which perhaps in some ways they were if they were pissed at the fans for forcing them to make this abomination.
"There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens."
That should have been the ongoing THE END...the quest to find Earth
...as soon as you introduce that Earth had been found, all the magic from the original story was lost
Never occurred to me that could also be the opening to Stargate SG1
Dan, the best thing about Galactica 1980 is your review.
Didn't they just leave Starbuck for dead on that planetoid? The episode did have an Enemy Mine feeling to it with Starbuck and the Cylon.
This opened up some old wounds.
I remember the Starbuck episode! It was the best episode of the show I feel.
Enemy Mine or Hell in the Pacific
Lee Marvin would smile at that remark👍
Enemy Mine great lazy Saturday movie.
Bingo!
It had its moments. The night the cylons landed part one and two and the return of Starbuck are the best.
The Starbuck episode was good except for one major problem. There is a perfectly flyable Cylon fighter sitting not far from Starbucks camp that the centurions came in at the episodes climax. Starbuck flew one in "The Hand of God". Am I missing something here?
I freaked out when the original series ended. I think I watched 2 episodes of 1980. I just remember the Cylon being defeated by a microwave oven.
Those early Amana's were a beast, cook a chicken in three minutes. They did leak some residual microwaves but damn those babies packed a lot of juice.
My grandparents had a RADAR microwave. That thing opened down like a full-size oven, & weighed as much as a tube TV lol It could probably take out two Cylons!
(I still have the big ol' rectangle glass tray from it; use it as a base for my Mr. Heater.)
I was looking through the streaming app Tubi a while ago and saw that Galactica 1980 was on it and decided to give it a shot. I didn't get to see many of the G-1980 episodes when they aired because Sunday evening was church time. The only full episode I got to see was the one with Starbuck in it. Anyways, I am watching the first episode of G-1980 and could only make it through 20 minutes or so of the episode before I stopped and never continued watching it.
I watched Galactic 1980 a few years ago. The only good episode is the last one with Starbucks. Watch the last one. There is no build up for it. It was a stand alone episode.
As a 10 year old boy, I hated this show, and I loved the original Battlestar Galactica. The only episode that was likeable was the one that featured Starbuck.
The original BSG was my favorite as well!
Rip Terry Carter, one of my favorite actors from the original series. Just saw yesterday that he had passed.
The Starbuck episode was great though
It was a high point for this spacewreck.
First video I have seen by this guy. GREAT host. Love the voice. Quality of the show, and length of episode, was perfect.
I always thought that 'Boxie' was Troy's nickname.
I 2nd that.
"How cool is that?!" You're the man, friend. Thanks!!
Great video even though the show was lackluster. I agree the Starbucks episode was tremendous in the story plot. The only one I remember. British show UFO did a similarity with astronaut and alien buddy kind of survival along the same line. That’s another great show topic for the future. Thanks for the walks down memory lane!
One good thing about this series was that it was a short series.😂
You rock, Dan ! These are great !
Thank you buddy, enjoy :-)
I, like Dan, only watched the Starbuck befriending a Cylon episode. That was great…the rest of the series….don’t recall watching at all.
I remember the last Galactica video you made I did a comment talking mentioning that it was based on mormonism. now I don't know a lot about mormonism but the replies I got taught me more than I expected.
The major reason that the original Battlestar Galactica failed was its high cost. They tried to save money even then using stock footage and flipping it on occasion left to right
Galactica 1980 had a good premise but bad execution. Had the network given it a little more money and time it could have been good
Galactica 1980 sure knew how to tap into the campy action era of the 1980s. My favorite episode was with Dirk Benedict, and I was glad they re-imaged that episode in the Galactica revival series with a few changes.
Quantum Leap actually has its origins in the original BSG story where Apollo jumps into the body of a Terran pilot.
The total alteration of a franchise. You thought it was just Ghostbusters,Star Wars, Dr Who and Star Trek.
Almost at 100K !
Advance congrats and thanks for such a great channel
Literally in just 6 months. It's unbelievable and I'm extremely humbled and grateful to all of you guys :-) thanks so much.
Thanks that explains a lot of confusing memories about the show. Forgot that Boxey grew up😂
Isnt the white uniform and blaster from the episode "Experiment in Terra"?
As an 80s kid, BSG didn't matter storywise. It was "Star Wars" on TV. Spaceships, blasters, and robots. Remember, the 80s was always about selling toys to kids. Captain Power, Airwolf, Knight Rider, A Team, etc.
Not a big fan of sci-fi?
@@dalethelander3781 Never said that. 80s kid, they had me at spaceships and robomen. 🤣
I really wish I had gotten some of the Robotech toys they were making at the time. Didn't realize I was watching anime until I hit my 20s 😂
I don't mean for this to sound negative, but liked Barry Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder, in which he essentially played the same stiff character as he did in BSG80. I also thought he resembled Boxy more than Kent McCord did.
Would have been great in Walker, Texas Ranger
Starbuck episode ended with him stranded. Shame he didn't notice the fully operational Cylon Raider ship parked in the background!😅
I know, right? That would have been awesome
Maybe he is looking for Galactica somewhere on cylon raider!
Every time I tune in to your channel , I hum, " I just can't get enough " by Depeche Mode.
I hope Dan someday covers Space:1999 and a show called UFO which was British sci-fi but aired in America for a short while.
ufo was originally going to be space 1999 2, but they changed it. also it was made in shepperton in england yes but it was gerry and sylvia anderson who made it.....
@@chloedevereaux1801 the other way around. Space 1999 was supposed to be UFO 2 as it came out 5 years after UFO.
I always wondered what was up with " Galactica 1980", since I specifically seen it with my own eyes, but nothing in the original series? I love " Battle Star Galactica", and I remember when I was sick, my mom bought me " Battle Star Galactica" coloring book, and even bought me silver crayons, for the Cylons!
It had to have been more than 5 years later because one of the main characters was Boxy. Which was a childhood nickname. Boxy was about 10 in the original show.
I think the Quantum Leap connection would have made it an interesting sequel. Becketts high intelligence and inadequacy being different people would not have needed the swiss cheese memory McGuffin, too.
Starbuck was the only episode I could watch all the way through..lol
You took my comment... its also the only episode that I remember.
@@zztechs I've rewatchef them all ...still just as bad
@@billbaker2725 Thank you for suffering, so I didn't have too... Cheers...
“We did not crash. The ground came up and hit us.” All in that Cylon monotone still cracks me up when I think of it. I don’t think I have seen it since it originally aired.
LMAO!!! It's been so long since I seen that one, I forgot about that,!
That's similar to " The Living Legend" when the Centurion tries to tell Baltar about " The Other Battlestar",
" sir, I really think you should look at the other Battlestar."
Baltar " What are you babbling about....(Look of fear)...it can't be!"
Centurion " It is, another Battlestar."
Like you said, in that monotone voice! I LMAO Everytime I see it!
Thanks for another great video Dan. I wondered back in the day why there was a message at the end of the episode reading about the U.S. government investigation of ufo's project blue book and later read/heard that was required as a part of the 7pm time period for the program to be considered having educational content.looking forward to future content!
>Lorne Greene performed on this show gratis as a favor to Glen Larson.
>When the cancellation order came down, they were in the middle of filming a time travel episode, "The Day They Kidnapped Cleopatra." One more episode was scheduled, "The Wheel of Fire," where we would've seen Starbuck had been made a translated being with a Ship of Lights. (Source: Battlestar Wiki.)
>The budget may have been slashed to 1/2 mil per episode, but every episode broke the bank and ended up costing the same as the original due to a 7-day-a-week shooting schedule and the production and post-production crews working overtime hours to meet ABC's airdate demands. Time and a half for overtime and Saturdays, double time for Sundays.
>The schedule was so tight, Glen Larson was writing final drafts from his condo in Hawaii, faxing them to L.A. where story editors Allen Cole and Chris Bunch wrote the educational beats and slid them into the scripts. Other than that, Larson's directive was that the scripts be shot as-is, no revisions.
>The story you referred to with the original cast was from a script by Isaac Asimov which was supposed to be the first of 4 made-for-television movies planned for the 1979-80 season. Instead, we got Galactica 1980.
You like Boomer because he's the most REAL of the characters. Apollo and Starbuck were great characters, but they were just a little like comic-book figures. You couldn't see yourself as either of them, but Boomer was like a normal person, someone you might know and relate to.
Adama, Col. Tigh and Boomer always seemed more grounded and more relatable.
I remember the microwave affecting the cylon, and the next week my mom bought one. I refused to eat any food from it, saying it would kill us all.
That second season on earth ? I hated it.
It's the same deal with SeaQuest DSV, absolutely adored the first season, but hated when they changed the cast and that final episode where the SeaQuest goes to an alien ocean world ? wtf.
The second season of BSG gave me the same "yuk!" vibe.
Thanks for the details about it. Had mostly forgot all about it.
It is weird to see Kent McCord in something other than Adam-12.
Right? Adam-12 was such a great show. I may have to do a show on that :-)
@@MoviesMusicMonsters Make that one happen, Dan. Please and thank you.
BSG80 consists of so many bad decisions, it's mind boggeling that the producers have though anyone would want to watchi it.
Its almost like Disney watched it and though: "We bought Star Wars for 4 billions, but we can do worse!"
In Farscape, when John Crichton (Ben Browser) talks to his dad Jack (Kent McCord) about his former job as an astronaut, this is the series I think of.
Ben Browder, Thanks for mentioning Farscape that is another one of my favorite Sci fi shows.
Dan Monroe does it again. Info on one of my most memorable shows from my childhood. True, the show was horrible but gee whiz that episode with Starbuck introduced me to the world of depression. My guy was stuck on a barren planet alone for life? FRACK!
What really killed Galactica 1980 for me was the "Super Scouts", four episodes of nonsense involving the children of the Galactica. There were only six good episodes that attempted to be serious in the series, the three part intro to the series with the time travel elements, the two part episode The Night The Cylons Landed and the finale, The Return Of Lt. Starbuck.
Greene did a lot for free. Hatch had a good idea for a reboot with new cylons and he made a sales pitch video. It is on YT.