Galactica 1980 - A Timewarp TV Retrospective

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  • Опубліковано 6 тра 2018
  • My two-part look at the original Battlestar Galactica concludes, as we discover what wacky shenanigans ensued when the ragtag fugitive fleet finally reached Earth!
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  • @CarlosEmilioEsq
    @CarlosEmilioEsq 3 роки тому +28

    1980 did nothing to kill off my love for the original series. As a kid, I simply ignored it.

    • @BryonLape
      @BryonLape 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, pretty much the same here.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 8 місяців тому

      @@BryonLape Classic compartmentalization..... Starbuck's return was the high point.

  • @SaulOhio
    @SaulOhio 4 роки тому +172

    I can't see Lloyd Bridges without thinking, "I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue."

    • @kevinsmith9502
      @kevinsmith9502 4 роки тому +2

      lol i loved that seinfeld he was in"Its go time"

    • @elfpimp1
      @elfpimp1 4 роки тому +1

      Haha, he was great at staight stick comedy.

    • @thedonDunpeal
      @thedonDunpeal 4 роки тому +1

      So many great guest appearances on that show, Anyone else a fan of SciFi's Galactica?

    • @MuvoTX
      @MuvoTX 3 роки тому +2

      Mandelbaum!! Mandelbaum!! Mandelbaum!!... one of my fave Seinfeld supporting characters.

    • @RicardoPetrazzi
      @RicardoPetrazzi 3 роки тому +1

      lol, another great movie.....Airplane! full of gags...

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 5 років тому +61

    For me the crush was the girl with the braids who was on the bridge and talked about launching the vipers. Super cute.

    • @robertclark6349
      @robertclark6349 4 роки тому +6

      Rigel. She was a cutie.

    • @SagaofaCrew
      @SagaofaCrew 4 роки тому +2

      f you're here than you are obviously a bit more than a just a "Major Big Box Office Franchise Only Fan of Science Fiction" in other words YOU know that the Genre was NOT invented in 1977, you have not pigeon holed your taste, and you may just be what I like to call a 'Comprehensive Science Fiction Fan' rather than a 'mainstream only' Fan! I'm glad you are!
      I therefore submit for your discovery an introduction to my 1984 production - correct 1984 (of this date fewer than 7000 persons have viewed it's 'Official Trailer') which like BSG, dared to have the audacity to even exist on the same planet as Big Box Office (as far as mainstream fans were concerned) Here's a recent Documentary about it: ua-cam.com/video/k7EZB0FP-ig/v-deo.html

    • @robertthomas5736
      @robertthomas5736 4 роки тому +5

      Her Real name is Sarah Rush, "Core Systems Transfering Control, Launch All Vipers "

    • @teedup8995
      @teedup8995 3 роки тому +3

      She also had a nice voice too.

    • @lurkerrekrul
      @lurkerrekrul 3 роки тому +2

      @Simon Leib Did they ever actually use the name RIgel on the show? I know that's how the character is listed, but I don't recall her ever being referenced by name.
      I had a crush on her too. :)

  • @jyesucevitz
    @jyesucevitz 5 років тому +9

    Loved your opening line. Just because a show is dead doesn't mean the story is over. Never more true than with Firefly.

  • @phillawrence5148
    @phillawrence5148 3 роки тому +8

    The music still gives me goosebumps

  • @peterfmodel
    @peterfmodel 5 років тому +12

    The return of starbuck is excellent - one of the best episodes i ever seen.

  • @geoffk777
    @geoffk777 5 років тому +55

    I was taking a college English class in "Science Fiction as Literature" when BG 1980 first aired. Of course, everyone in the class watched it, and the Professor was so incensed by it that we spent nearly a whole class discussing every cliche and thing that was wrong with it. We decided that it was an achievement in a way--none of us could have come up with anything that was so completely awful in so many different ways.

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 5 років тому +27

    The episode " The Return of Starbuck " on it's own nearly made Galactica 1980 worth watching.

    • @martynstembridge7714
      @martynstembridge7714 3 роки тому +5

      Yup, I've always found it comforting to know that episode is at the end ...
      Was an amazing way to finish the whole original Galactica saga.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 8 місяців тому

      @@martynstembridge7714 80's cheese - with some Cylon mold / mildew.

    • @RedSiegfried
      @RedSiegfried 6 місяців тому

      Despite the fact that Starbuck didn't return to anything but the TV show.

  • @jmv1969
    @jmv1969 4 роки тому +17

    Did you know Glen Larson actually wrote scripts for a season 2 of 1980 show? The best one was called "Wheel of Fire" where Starbuck is rescued from the planet by the ship of lights and helps Troy and Dilion on a mission.

    • @JTruthseeker
      @JTruthseeker Рік тому +3

      And also supposedly with a time travel of 30 years into the future to the year 1999.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 8 місяців тому

      @@JTruthseeker God must really hate ABC.

  • @kirk1701
    @kirk1701 2 роки тому +4

    The question about Adama and company eating so well while others were starving was taken care of in the movie pilot (which became the first three episodes). In said movie, Ray Milland's politician was found out to be hoarding the food and I took it as Apollo, Starbuck, Boomer and others redistributing the food to the survivors.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 8 місяців тому

      That seemed so weird that the fugitives didn't stage a revolt against the upper class dipwads.

  • @tete8206
    @tete8206 4 роки тому +2

    As a very young kid I liked Galactica 1980.

  • @dernvader6876
    @dernvader6876 3 роки тому +2

    The *'Bad News Bears'* influence is strong with this one... (Walter Matthau)

  • @ChrisLogan787
    @ChrisLogan787 5 років тому +3

    I watched the entire original Battlestar Galactica on Netflix, and wondered why the “Return Of Starbuck” episode never showed up. Now I know, because it was a Galactica 1980 episode. “The Return Of Starbuck” is one of the best Battlestar Galactica episodes ever!

  • @jace3848
    @jace3848 5 років тому +13

    Best episode of galactica 1980 was the Halloween episode with the first appearance of human looking cylons. Been 30 years and they have improved.

    • @michalwosko9571
      @michalwosko9571 2 роки тому +3

      even at 10 years old when watching, i knew the human-looking cylons were made up to cut down cost.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 8 місяців тому

      @@michalwosko9571 It must've inspired the humanoid Cylons in RDM's version.

  • @SupremeTransformer
    @SupremeTransformer 3 роки тому +2

    I was a kid at the time and loved G80. Was disappointed they didn't make more of them. Haven't seen it since it aired, but I can still can remember the microwave messed up that cyclone.

  • @carbondragon
    @carbondragon 5 років тому +8

    I watched the new show but never really felt it was a valid replacement. I finally realized that unlike the old Galactica's people, whom I'd welcome to Earth, I'd wish the new galactics's people would be destroyed by the cylons before they could get near Earth. I just felt they were NOT worth saving from the cylons, which unlike the old show, was actually their fault.

  • @dtz1000
    @dtz1000 5 років тому +235

    The Starbuck episode was the best episode of all of them, even if you include the first series. Some of the other episodes were dreadful. It suffered by making too many changes. The new actors were mostly bad and sidelining Adama in favour of a stupid kid was a terrible idea.

    • @jnichols3
      @jnichols3 5 років тому +15

      If I remeber correctly, all the footage of with Dirk Benedict and all the scenes on planet "Starbuck" were from an unfinished BSG episode. This why it is told in flashback. This is the same thing that was done in the TOS Star Trek episode "The Menagerie" where footage from the then unaired pilot "The Cage" was recycled.

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 5 років тому +3

      TNG has a similar episode where Geordi is marooned with a Romulan.

    • @show280
      @show280 5 років тому +21

      The Starbuck episode was so good that it almost makes the whole ordeal of Galactica 1980 worthwhile.

    • @RoverIAC
      @RoverIAC 5 років тому +4

      I watched them when they originally aired but I missed that episode. : (

    • @jupreindeer
      @jupreindeer 5 років тому +5

      Last time I actively checked, this one episode was still available for viewing, here on UA-cam. So, no excuses for missing out on it. Really is a good episode...even if finding a Wo-Man on this wreck of a planet sounds like a bit of a reach.

  • @dalethelander3781
    @dalethelander3781 5 років тому +10

    The series was shut down during filming of "The Day They Kidnapped Cleopatra."
    The intended season finale was "The Wheel Of Fire," where we would see the return of The Ship Of Lights...and see that Starbuck wasn't stranded on that barren planet. Angela had judged him, and he had become a translated being on the lightship.

  • @JimTMcDaniels1
    @JimTMcDaniels1 2 місяці тому

    I loved it as a high school student and it has some Great messages and they finally found earth!
    Take care

  • @Bandido894
    @Bandido894 4 місяці тому +1

    Underrated! There were still highlights in this series incl. Cylons (imaginery) attack to L.A. and to school ship. Also Cylons landed on Earth.

  • @roberttbrockway
    @roberttbrockway 5 років тому +4

    A sequel to The Return of Starbuck called 'Wheel of Fire' was planned but alas Galactica 1980 was cancelled before it could be made. The script is available online. Well worth a read.

  • @davemardon6756
    @davemardon6756 5 років тому +5

    Jeremy Brett played one of the best Sherlock Holmes ever. Perfect match.

  • @Aurora2097
    @Aurora2097 Рік тому

    I was searching for Galactica 80 to watch it...
    Glad your review spared me the time!

  • @kelliefay7625
    @kelliefay7625 4 роки тому +2

    I liked it! Granted I was a teenager at the time but I liked it, and I loved the original.

  • @Syklonus
    @Syklonus 5 років тому +4

    The Return of Starbuck was the best episode of both the 70s series and the 1980 series. It could very well have been a proper theatre stage play with it's minimalist cast and simple "odd couple" concept. Truly 1 10/10 piece of television.
    As for the 1980 series, well I like it. It has its goofy moments, but I like the nostalgic 80s Earth setting, and I always though the bikes were really cool.

  • @markeffend165
    @markeffend165 3 роки тому +3

    I knew Richard hatch personally and when he came to comic con San Diego and we’d talk about a lot of ups not many downs I asked him about Maren Jensen he had limited info but he said she’s doing well now and dirk Benedict is kinda reclusive but he wants to see fans someday and I met herb Jefferson jr a lot also he’s so kool but Rest In Peace Richard hatch he was my friend

  • @scifigenerationTV
    @scifigenerationTV 4 роки тому +1

    Your analysis of Galactica is fantastic. What a great fan's perspective. Glad I watched both of these.

  • @steveburke8434
    @steveburke8434 4 роки тому +2

    The Return of Starbuck was a great episode. The decision to give the Cylon a partially human, but electronicized, voice, instead of the “classic” monotone, was an interesting one...and Gary Owen’s voice, right out of Laugh-In, at that...It was a little odd hearing a Centurion talk that way.
    However, in so doing, they were able to give the Cylon, “Cy,” MUCH more personality...and, BOY, did they put THAT to good use! They had a GREAT interaction going between him and Starbuck, PLUS a very well written story and dialogue that successfully and brilliantly fully developed their complete whole relationship arc over a single episode. 90% of the show is nothing but those two characters, alone on a desert planet, and it was so great, that’s ALL you needed!!

  • @johnroutledge9220
    @johnroutledge9220 4 роки тому +5

    It occurs that a version of 1980 structured more like the tv series V could have been amazing. Cylons turn up and decide to exploit the primitive humans rather than wipe them out. (In exchange for a few glass beads. Fusion power. Organ cloning. Stuff like that.) Meanwhile they know that Galactica is low on fuel, has to come to them, and the longer they wait the more control the Cylons can establish over Earth. You'd need a few more robot costumes, and maybe one or two establishing shot of a 'friendly' basestar hovering over a city, but that would be it for expensive SFX. Everything else would be costume work in conventional sets. The Colonials have to sneak around, trying to fix, sabotage, and subvert Cylon planning.

  • @seonf4370
    @seonf4370 4 роки тому +5

    I remember asking Richard Hatch about this in an online chat and he said "He wished this series hadn't been made"

  • @Laceykat66
    @Laceykat66 5 років тому +11

    6:00 - So, basically what J.J. Abrams did to Star Trek. Wow, you think someone would have learned by now.
    17:45 - BINGO !! Totally agree and I TOLD them that in the beginning at the Fan Convention.

  • @misterspock3561
    @misterspock3561 4 роки тому +2

    All your video's on Galactica are great!! You are so right on the last 1980, Starbucks return. The BEST!!!!

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 5 років тому +13

    Meanwhile remember when DS9 had an episode where all the characters just played baseball for an hour?

    • @user-pj9ie4bs1z
      @user-pj9ie4bs1z 3 роки тому

      Love ds9

    • @michalwosko9571
      @michalwosko9571 2 роки тому +1

      ... and it sucked ;)

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 2 роки тому +1

      And in the last season, at the climax of the war. It sucked hard.

    • @purefoldnz3070
      @purefoldnz3070 2 роки тому

      @@kirishima638 Yeah exactly. Even worse than an episode when the Ferengis would dress up in drag for some reason.

  • @paxwebb
    @paxwebb 5 років тому +7

    Haha I was more a Cassiopeia fan, but my high school classmate was definitely into Sheba. I remember buying the record and could recite the whole thing pretty much word for word, listening to it over and over. Life was much simpler then…

    • @easyalpha1
      @easyalpha1 3 роки тому +1

      Athena fan....big time. All the promos had her image all over the place. Would have been great if they stuck with their first good instincts on Maren Jensen.

    • @ianhirst1148
      @ianhirst1148 3 роки тому

      Both hot.

  • @safari2411
    @safari2411 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the wonderful analysis / review, Chris! Love your humor and irony, too...

  • @charlesgriffith6068
    @charlesgriffith6068 5 років тому

    I only now found your channel. I have to say you really did your research well, and your banter is rather whimsical and very entertaining. Having lived through everything BSG, I am in total agreement with everything you have covered. Including the only watchable episode of 1980. If I can leave you with a pleasant thought. Both Richard and Dirk were/are incredibly nice guys. Richard was the kind of guy that you could just sit and chat with over a drink. Really really down to earth fellow.

  • @shallendor
    @shallendor 5 років тому +3

    Both Battlestar Galactica shows are great, but totally different shows. The original was an action adventure show, while the remake was a gritty drama with great action moments.

  • @michaelwhitehead6594
    @michaelwhitehead6594 5 років тому +4

    Brilliant presentation of this and previous Battlestar Galactica, Part of my childhood, as in my teens I saw it at the Cinema, as the first two episodes were bunched together and released as a movie, as well as a sequel movie Mission Galacta Cylon Attack. I was hooked on the series then on, even had the annual. Always wondered what happened to the series, and you now explained pretty well! Like you, I really liked the Starbuck Returns episode which reminds me of the movie Enemy Mine, a similar sci fi story line of a human forced to survive with his sworn opponent. Couldn't get into the reboot series, I tried but just didn't click with me.

  • @MG-bs5mr
    @MG-bs5mr Рік тому

    Yeah, it took me a few years to actually watch the reboot.
    I'm so glad I did.

  • @TheChipMcDonald
    @TheChipMcDonald 4 роки тому +1

    The original Galactica had a great title roll.. the red nebula combined with the pacing the voiceover, then the theme playing with the Cylon raiders doing the rolls still gives me chills. I'm not sure why, and at my age I've finally learned to appreciate not over thinking it. It was great. Dykstra had such a flair with the movements, and the quirky pseudo Egyptian design aesthetic, excellent models and exterior shots.
    The new BSG is transcendent, though...

  • @TV21
    @TV21 6 років тому +4

    Another fun review - thanks Chris! I quite like Galactica 1980, I watched it when it first aired on tv. Then again, I was the right age for it I think. If I watched it now, I might feel different. That Starbuck episode was definitely the best one. I remember liking the flying bikes too haha.

    • @ChrisDalek
      @ChrisDalek  6 років тому

      Thank you! I think I stuck with 1980 as a kid more because I liked the idea of it more than the execution.

  • @RandallHallKaizenReiki
    @RandallHallKaizenReiki 3 роки тому +3

    I heard Glen Larson say he wanted to make the series generations later, but Lorne Green called him and asked why he wasn't in the new show. He felt so bad, that he added him back into the show.

  • @MegaALF1986
    @MegaALF1986 4 роки тому +1

    Pretty good series from back in the day

  • @Datan0de
    @Datan0de 5 років тому +1

    You nailed it. Across the board, your assessment of Galactica 1980 it's spot on.
    However... I was 10 when Galactica 1980 came out, and had managed to forget about it and even forgot that it was included in the original series box set sitting on my shelf. So why oh why must I now endure all these clear memories rushing back??

  • @warrior64
    @warrior64 6 років тому +36

    Larson was tired of this Felgarcarb that was Galactica 1980 so in the end, he did a proper BSG ending. “The Return of Starbuck “

    • @scockery
      @scockery 5 років тому

      That sounds nice. Yet the show was cancelled in the middle of producing the 11th episode intended to air afterwards “The Return of Starbuck “.

    • @jeffstone2136
      @jeffstone2136 4 роки тому

      Not true in any sense. The Wheel Of Fire, written by Larson, was supposed to be the finale of the original BSG series arc. It was intended to be the twelfth episode of G80 in production order, but the plug was pulled before barely anything was done on #11, The Night They Kidnapped Cleopatra. And Larson would never have wanted his cash cow to stop.

  • @CrowdfundingHell
    @CrowdfundingHell 5 років тому +4

    One thing you failed to note: if you look at the credits, you'll note that many of the 'Super Scouts' have the same last name -- 3 Larsons, to be exact. Nepotism does not help, unless it saves money.

  • @KebabKenraali
    @KebabKenraali 4 роки тому +1

    Galactica 1980 has huge impact on my childhood as I managed to get detention, when I was in elementary school because me and couple of my classmates draw clock/communicator inpired by this serie to our wrist with marker pens.

  • @alaricgoldkuhl155
    @alaricgoldkuhl155 4 роки тому +2

    As a kid growing up in the 70s and 80s, sci-fi was so rare in mainstream media and the quality so low that as bad as Galactica 80 might have been, it was still one of my favorites at the time. Looking back, it amazes me that we all managed to huddle together in front of our screens at the same time each week, arranging our lives around tv schedules.

    • @stevepalpatine2828
      @stevepalpatine2828 2 роки тому

      SciFi quality in the 70's - 80's was so low?
      Battlestar Galactica
      ET
      Close Encounters of the Third Kind
      Star Trek: Wrath of Khan
      Star Trek: The Search for Spock
      Star Wars A New Hope
      The Empire Strikes Back
      Return of the Jedi
      The Thing
      The Last Star Fighter
      Flight of the Navigator
      Back to the Future 1 - 3
      Alien
      Aliens
      Terminator
      Predator
      2001 A Space Odyssey
      The Black Hole
      Dune
      Krull
      Battle Beyond the Stars
      I could go on, the 70's - 80's was the best time for SciFi.

    • @alaricgoldkuhl155
      @alaricgoldkuhl155 2 роки тому

      @@stevepalpatine2828 Television mate. We are talking BSG. Really bad acting, bad writing, dodgy AF effects. I am talking about quality of production, but thanks for your rant anyway. Krull? lol

    • @stevepalpatine2828
      @stevepalpatine2828 2 роки тому

      @@alaricgoldkuhl155 Thought I'd throw that in lol

  • @JeffGannon
    @JeffGannon 5 років тому +5

    Dear marooned Starbuck. YOU HAVE AN INTACT FUNCTIONAL CYLON SHIP & parts of 3 more Cylons with you. You can leave now.

    • @PatriceV100
      @PatriceV100 5 років тому +2

      That's what she did in the 2000 series...

  • @SciFiFan2012
    @SciFiFan2012 5 років тому +25

    I still want a BSG Colonial Warrior uniform and helmet!

    • @MrCpotts47
      @MrCpotts47 5 років тому +1

      I can make you a helmet

    • @GeneralG1810
      @GeneralG1810 5 років тому +2

      And their blaster too, actually a LOT of the Colonial stuff was pretty damned awesome. The uniform, the weapon and OMFG those Vipers

    • @elfpimp1
      @elfpimp1 4 роки тому +1

      @@MrCpotts47 hehe, I'm 3d printing one at home! Got a large volume (300mmx300mm x 500 mm) FLSun C-Plus.
      I thought it interesting that it looked like Egyptian headdress.

    • @WalterDWormack214
      @WalterDWormack214 3 роки тому

      Actually I bought Galactica 1980 as a separate item on Amazon.com when I first learned it was available on DVD!
      I really hope that Galactica 1980 doesn't butchered like it's been by hateful fanboys.

    • @Bill23799
      @Bill23799 3 роки тому

      I remember they used to advertise those Colonial Viper Pilot Jackets in " Starlog " magazine.
      When I was a kid in 8th grade ( 1972 ) I had a suede winter coat that had those same magnetic buckles. I thought I was so cool haha.

  • @terancepodolski4323
    @terancepodolski4323 5 років тому

    As a child, at the time of this series, I enjoyed the episodes I saw. Thanks ChrisDalek for talking about this part of the Galactica Franchise. You made me laugh alot. The part about the survivors coming from a high gravity world made this series more understandable. On Earth they would be super powered beings.

  • @WilAdams
    @WilAdams 4 роки тому +1

    Oh, and Lara Parker was in two episodes. That elevates it.

  • @HopsHasFun
    @HopsHasFun 4 роки тому +3

    "... there really is a good show buried in here somewhere." That's '80's TV in a nutshell.

  • @jameswilber518
    @jameswilber518 5 років тому +11

    "Sheeba wins, every time". 'nuf said.

    • @davidtriana
      @davidtriana 4 роки тому +1

      We did get Tricia Helfer in the New BSG. I guess she was the new icandy!

    • @easyalpha1
      @easyalpha1 3 роки тому +1

      Athena, love..both versions...Grace and Maren.

  • @greatrafusio
    @greatrafusio 5 років тому +2

    This video is hysterical. Subscribed.

  • @-MrFozzy-
    @-MrFozzy- 4 роки тому +2

    ‘I’m being paid by the sneer’......amazing......

  • @drroussakis
    @drroussakis 5 років тому +23

    It was all right for a 10 year-old kid (me) thirsty for sci-fi during the 80s.

    • @jamiebraswell5520
      @jamiebraswell5520 4 роки тому +4

      It was a good show for kids, but it still offers up some great sci-fi when you watch the two-part episodes. They had some genuinely good writing and some clever ideas.

  • @conroypawgmail
    @conroypawgmail 5 років тому +23

    Old Battlestar Galactica had Sheba... so old Battlestar Galactica wins! - I couldn't possibly agree anymore enthusiastically.

    • @DrummerGrrrl
      @DrummerGrrrl 5 років тому +1

      I didn't like her fingernails! What fighter pilot wears fingernail polish? And, Sheba was tough when her father was alive but she got really wimpy as the series went along. Some advanced society! Very few women in strong leadership roles.
      On the other hand, the newer version of Battlestar Galactica just wasn't fun. The Cylons WERE interesting but Adama and Lee and Kara Thrace and Colonel Tight? Ugh! Boring.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 5 років тому +3

      @@DrummerGrrrl - God, some people see shit where there's nothing. Sheba was SUPPOSED to have been over confident like her father, and then when he was gone she lost all of her confidence, and was adapting to being on a new ship that was less militaristic and more like a family. It's called character progression, just like Starbuck became less of a selfish prick as the series went on. Had the series continued into a 2nd season, many of the characters would have progressed and changed slightly from how they were originally. SMH.

    • @ANT96-x8d
      @ANT96-x8d 5 років тому +1

      The original 1978 BSG will always have a special place in our hearts and minds.

  • @tristansmith4881
    @tristansmith4881 Рік тому

    I loved it all and still do. 1980 was just as good...

  • @aarondeck1884
    @aarondeck1884 5 років тому

    Very well done. Thank you!

  • @michaelwittmann4898
    @michaelwittmann4898 5 років тому +18

    As a 7 year old in 1980 Battlestar Galactica 1980 was the bees knees!

  • @DiabolicShape
    @DiabolicShape 5 років тому +3

    "Nanu, nanu...Shazbot!" ...Hilarious :(

  • @MONKEYZENTV
    @MONKEYZENTV 5 років тому

    great video man. Hope you enjoyed the finale

  • @Nollaig1234
    @Nollaig1234 2 роки тому +2

    The most unbelievable thing about B.S.G. 1980 was Adama's (Lorne Greene) beard.

  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 4 роки тому +8

    The new BSG is dark and deep. Caprica, moreso. The original was majestic and epic. That's why it feels good.

    • @edumaker-alexgibson
      @edumaker-alexgibson 3 роки тому

      I was so sad when Caprica just stopped. It was a slow burn but it was brilliantly textured and I really wanted to see it join up to BSG timeframe.

  • @tureytaino2785
    @tureytaino2785 5 років тому +9

    That is the mistake they make time after time: Darker is not always better.

    • @theodorehaverson5079
      @theodorehaverson5079 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed. Look at the later incarnations of the Star Trek television series. They kept getting darker and the fans were saying that this was not Roddenberry's vision, especially "Enterprise". OY!

    • @henne2k
      @henne2k 4 роки тому +2

      Theodore Haverson Enterprise is a Diamond compared to discovery. 😉

  • @charlesschultz3465
    @charlesschultz3465 5 років тому +2

    Jeremy Brett?!? Fantastic, I've got to go watch this again.

  • @mathewanderson3780
    @mathewanderson3780 5 років тому +2

    Well I liked it. I’m not afraid to admit it.

  • @steveburke8434
    @steveburke8434 4 роки тому +9

    The reimagined Galactica reboot was a great show...The original was my favorite TV show ever, so you’d think I might not like the new one..But I did.
    They also made some interesting choices...they gave the rather one dimensional characters a lot more depth, more drama, first and last names, made the tone more realistic and gritty and closer to modern day Earth and a little less less sci fi and futuristic...which made the show very interesting to watch.
    They thought that was brilliant, but it WAS a trade-off they might not have anticipated...they gained depth, realism, and drama, in exchange for losing a little of the FUN of the original. They end up with two very different shows, but both very good, each in their own way.
    The new music was...different...not fun and stirring and uplifting and brassy like the original brilliant score...but a GOOD interesting and different that fit the new direction of the show...and was brilliantly used as a key plot point later! Somehow they worked in “All Around the Watchtower” as some kind of universal tune that spontaneously shows up all over the universe...which was...interesting...but the remade version of the song, and the tie-in with Kara’s music as she figures out the coordinates to Earth, were sheer genius. And they did include a few subtle homages to the original music from time to time.
    The other interesting thing was how they tweaked the variables...LOTS of little variables....characters in some cases changed gender, race, SPECIES...some of the human characters, like Boomer, Athena, and Col. Tigh, became Cylons!...Starbuck was female! Admiral Cain was female. Baltar never DID join the Cylons. That was the first thing he did in the original show. Baltar had long hair, Apollo had short hair. He even ended up President of the Colonies for a while..! And Boomer and Athena kind of ended up almost the SAME character, they were both copies of the I believe it was the #8 model. (Grace Park.) But they got away with ALL those tweaks, just fine, because the casting and acting and writing were all brilliant.
    Neither race, through the entire reimagined series, ever seemed to clue in on the fact that the new “humanoid” Cylons were much less like “toasters” (robots), and much closer to...CLONES. Cylons had developed cloning technology, and neither they nor the humans ever seemed to realize this fact! They all just thought of them as an alternative kind of robot.
    The Cylon FIGHTERS and BASE SHIPS were also essentially living robots, sort of a cyborg, instead of just machines now, too. Starbuck called the new fighters “pets,” like the Cylon version of a dog, or a horse, or something. No Muffit chimpanzee robot dog, but Cylon Fighter Cyborg Horses instead. The old Cylon Base Ships were way cooler looking, although these new asterisk things were sleek and futuristic, I guess.
    Galactica 1980’s Cylon “toaster” in The Return of Starbuck was made a more interesting character by adding a synthesized humanistic voice (Gary Owens) with inflections. The Reimagned “toasters,” WHEN they were shown, which was much less often...NEVER spoke, except very briefly in Razor! Only the humanoid clone ones spoke. All the robot Centurions, now all CGI, ever did was shoot, and shoot some more. Walk around, aim, and shoot. That’s it. Yet they all had mouth grilles.
    They never had Count Iblis, either. Which was sad, that was a very interesting character. Or the Ship of Lights. But they did have angels, I guess...Head Baltar and Head Six.
    The new show was VERY, VERY good, but all these little changes and decisions they made along the way were quite fascinating to observe. But, that said...the original, including The Return of Starbuck, is still AWESOME!

  • @retrogamer33
    @retrogamer33 5 років тому +15

    Battlestar and Buck Rogers share the same sound effects library.

    • @kevinlint2868
      @kevinlint2868 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, I liked those two shows

    • @sail2byzantium
      @sail2byzantium 4 роки тому +2

      Yep, as both were Glen Larson productions--and, interestingly, the Buck Rogers starfighter was in fact the original design for the BSG colonial viper.

    • @tyranakok
      @tyranakok 4 роки тому +1

      And shuttle model.

    • @sail2byzantium
      @sail2byzantium 4 роки тому

      @@tyranakok
      Yes, that's right! Thanks for the reminder.

    • @santafe37s
      @santafe37s 3 роки тому

      Agreed. For years I have noticed that too.

  • @captainharris8980
    @captainharris8980 Рік тому

    Original BSG was meant for a wide audience. All ages. High drama and space action adventure. Galactical 1980 was for kids who wanted more space fights, but instead got some social instruction. I tried watching it, but it was pretty clear that it was meant for kids.

  • @susannecoolkidsgerman7989
    @susannecoolkidsgerman7989 4 роки тому +1

    Great presentation, Chris. I watched Galactica in Germany at the time and, needless to say, I was a kid, and I loved my heros. Give me beautiful guys in a space hero setting - all set ;) The actors as beautiful as they come and there was no other actor - in my mind - remotely as attractive on German tv or as cool! But I admit I never saw all of the episodes, maybe the show got cancelled...I do not remember. I love the movie or movies and rally moved on to Star Wars, naturally. My brother and friends went on to replacing 'Battlestar Galactica' with 'Battlestar Beknacktica" which was hilarious - means crazy but rhymes! ;P I love your take on story, making and actor choosing by the producers ... I had quite a few loud laughs. While I cannot financially support at the time, I will keep watching! THANKS!

  • @Harldin
    @Harldin 5 років тому +5

    Galactica's equiv of the Wookie Holiday special from Star Wars, should never have been made.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 3 роки тому

      Yeah it was pretty embarrassing

  • @savecityofheroessavecityof5838
    @savecityofheroessavecityof5838 5 років тому +4

    I really wanted to watch BATTLESTAR GALATICA THE SECOND COMING . I do not know if it got on to the market,

  • @johnr7279
    @johnr7279 5 років тому

    VERY nice job on this!

  • @philipingram1563
    @philipingram1563 5 років тому

    absolutely spot on review

  • @marea67
    @marea67 6 років тому +3

    Good review! Personally I never had any issues with either Galactica 80 or the remake, aside from the fact that they were NOT Battlestar Galactica. I liked Galactica 80 for a what it was, a cute show for children. I guess I would have preferred it if both shows would have been given different names, so they weren't associated with Battlestar in the first place and not create expectations that neither show could meet.

  • @StolenEyesX
    @StolenEyesX 5 років тому +5

    Fantastic retrospective. Yes, Galactica 1980 was crap, almost redeemed by that fantastic final episode. Embarrassingly I’ve not watched the new version yet, but will soon. And that sudden cut to Rick Moranis made me laugh out loud, well played sir!

    • @gastronomist
      @gastronomist 5 років тому +2

      The new BSG had some good things about it, but the pay-out at the end was very very disappointing.

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 4 роки тому

    Great presentation.

  • @scottgillette2671
    @scottgillette2671 3 місяці тому

    This was hysterical!

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck 5 років тому +5

    Oh and when will you do one of these on "Space: 1999" -- the first season only please.....

  • @michaelcowin6442
    @michaelcowin6442 5 років тому +7

    Another reason to hate SyFy. I wanted Richard Hatch's version to come out.

    • @omnirhythm
      @omnirhythm 4 роки тому

      Now there's a silly reason to hate. BSG and The Expanse are two shows vastly beyond anything they otherwise produce. The BSG remake, wether you personally like it or hate it, together with Bear McCreary's masterpiece score is a very deep, hard-boiled piece of SF which will be hard to top unless the likes of HBO have a go at it. Preferably without needless violence and full frontals.

  • @w.michaelsmith1728
    @w.michaelsmith1728 5 років тому

    You've perfectly summed up my feelings!

  • @betamaxblake
    @betamaxblake 6 років тому +2

    Great well balanced reviews of both seasons of BG, hope you can review Buck Rogers next, another 80s fave !

  • @echozgus
    @echozgus 5 років тому +10

    I am rewatching this tv show but is so ugly I need to take an aspirin after each episode, I like the original Galactica with Starbuck and Apollo Im sure 1980 is just a bad dream of drunk Starbuck

    • @owenrichards1418
      @owenrichards1418 5 років тому

      I can't rewatch it. I'm having flashbacks just seeing the clips. I still have the scars on my eyes from when it was first transmitted.

  • @marklafrance8141
    @marklafrance8141 5 років тому +7

    I enjoyed your retrospective very much!
    I definitely agree that "The Return of Starbuck" is the best episode of the lot. However, the first 3 parter," Galactica Discovers Earth" re-edited into a 2-hour movie and the 2 part "The Night the Cylons Landed" re-edited as a 60 Minute movie, can easily slide into the end of the original series with ease. Larson should revisit those two, tweek or replace any reused BSG/FX and recut the story to keep it fun and exiting. I did watch your BSG review and it was great. I have read the Richard Hatch novels. They were outstanding! I was bummed out as a kid when the original replaced The Six Million Dollar Man, but I was rewarded with a fun Sci Fi show with cool characters and space battles!
    Great job!
    ✌❤😊

    • @marklafrance8141
      @marklafrance8141 5 років тому

      Well that stinks! I hadn't heard.

    • @marklafrance8141
      @marklafrance8141 5 років тому

      @Daniel Appleton :True, at least we got a couple more clever shows from him after BSG1980...Knight Rider and Quincy M.E.

    • @marklafrance8141
      @marklafrance8141 5 років тому

      @Daniel Appleton ; Quantum Leap was a fun show! I definitely have that one in my collection!👍

    • @karlsmith2570
      @karlsmith2570 5 років тому +1

      Mark LaFrance yeah, Glenn Larson died a few years ago
      I don't really recall how long ago it was when he died or what he died of, but yeah he died a few years ago

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII 5 років тому +1

      They DID re-edit "Galactica Discovers Earth" into a movie with other episodes.
      They re-edited several episodes of Galactica (first season and 1980) into feature films that were exhibited overseas and reran as these feature edits on American TV in the 1980s. The special effects quality of the Galactica pilot itself was on par with Star Wars at the time since John Dykstra, head of ILM at the time of Star Wars, also produced the effects for the Galactica pilot. Later Galactica episodes didn't always maintain the visual quality of the pilot and Buck Rogers and Galactica 1980 were DEFINITELY inferior in VFX to the original Battlestar Galactica.
      I bought a few episodes of Galactica on VHS in the early 1990s and owned the original broadcast edits of half the original series plus the feature edits "The Living Legend" (which had footage from "Fire in Space" edited in) and "Galactica Discovers" Earth. "The Return of Starbuck" was the only episode of Galactica 1980 that I saw released unedited on VHS but it was also the WORST quality Galactica released because they did an LP or SLP/EP tape release... (I honestly don't remember the tape speed they used; I got rid of that tape and most of VHS tapes 10 years ago.) It used less tape but it was WORSE quality and those recordings wear out even quicker than SP VHS tape!

  • @znotch87
    @znotch87 4 роки тому

    I loved those flying motorbikes!

  • @johnmcdougald1238
    @johnmcdougald1238 5 років тому +1

    Point on the idea of the Cylon taken out by a Microwave, you have to understand that back when these shows were made, It was kind of a known issue with people who had Pacemakers for their hearts at that time had to be cautious around them due to radio frequency interference. There used to be warning signs on convenience store doors warning people with pacemakers that they had one in the store. As a kid, when these shows first came on, I just assumed that's what happened to the cylon.

    • @gastronomist
      @gastronomist 5 років тому

      When I saw that as a kid, I thought it was funny and clever. I remember that my Dad thought it was dumb. Now that I'm an adult, I have to agree with him.

  • @jasonw3414
    @jasonw3414 5 років тому +18

    i watched this a few years ago on netflix. i actually felt myself getting stupider with each episode until i was a drooling vegetable in my chair

  • @ianfindly3257
    @ianfindly3257 4 роки тому +13

    The NEW BSG - well, actually, IT isn't so NEW anymore it's self at this point in time, but MORE RECENT BSG, I 've always nicknamed Law And Order In Space - it had THAT kind of quality, like a sci-fi version Steve Bochco type series. Besides, it had only ONE hot chick on it - the one shown at 16:14 in THIS video, where's the older series had SEVERAL - three of which were regulars ( Athena, Cassiopea, and Sheba ) , so it won out THERE, .. . though I gotta admit, that lone one in the more recent series WAS SMOKIN!

    • @capuchinseven
      @capuchinseven 4 роки тому +3

      ...Katee Sackhoff, Grace Park and Kandyse McClure aren't hot...?

    • @claytoncourtney1309
      @claytoncourtney1309 4 роки тому

      i nicknamed it "Invasion of the Body Snatchers In Space"

    • @jkcarroll
      @jkcarroll 4 роки тому

      Oh, c'mon! Katee Sackhoff was not only smokin', she was a little charred around the edges! :)

  • @DogOfHades
    @DogOfHades 4 роки тому +1

    The Episode with Starbuck's return was my favorite of all of them. Even though I was extremely young when I watched it, I remember it in great detail.

  • @fusionvision
    @fusionvision 3 роки тому

    just watched ur last 1978 review.. and commented then this pops up... oooohhh let me see ur review before making statment! im 2 seconds in hahah. i myself loved it

  • @alanmonaghan3657
    @alanmonaghan3657 5 років тому +5

    do we live in a darker world, or is it that we can now see all the dark stuff happening live on tv, imagine how isolated and disconnected someone living through hell in the 70's would have felt watching nothing but clean happy wholesome stuff on every channel, btw great video

    • @SimmeringPotpourri
      @SimmeringPotpourri 5 років тому +2

      I'm in total agreement. The 70's was just as dark, if not darker. The US had ended the war with Vietnam just 3 years before the show aired. We had the Iran hostages in 1979. We had the two oil crisis. Race relations were better than the 60's but not perfect. There was the cold war and threat of nuclear annihilation. The 3 mile island disaster. The concern about the environment existed but we still many more offenders destroying it than we do today. But we had light hearted TV and news that didn't stoke the fires of fear. The data even shows there are getting better...except for people's perspective. There are still some hugh issues today but the fact that they somehow think it's worse, well, that's a manufactured allusion.

  • @thethoughtcriminal8786
    @thethoughtcriminal8786 5 років тому +29

    By the way, you should check out Space: Above and Beyond.

    • @griff3683
      @griff3683 5 років тому

      Funny, when Space Above and Beyond started I thought it would be the "New" Galactica. Sadly no. I still watched every episode even though it seemed to be more about "Let's talk about our feelings" rather than Sci-Fi...But I was starving.

    • @thethoughtcriminal8786
      @thethoughtcriminal8786 5 років тому +2

      @@griff3683 Interesting....but then, you would probably say the same thing about Band of Brothers or the Pacific. See when I watch something, I don't expect it to be something else. And are you seriously going to tell me that Battlestar Glactica wasn't "Let's talk about our feeling?" Even Adama cried in that show. What I really liked about Space Above and Beyond is they actually reference a lot of military history. There is nothing wrong with human emotion, fact....even soldiers have them...I know, because I was one once.

    • @griff3683
      @griff3683 5 років тому

      @@thethoughtcriminal8786 I think you are taking me way too literally...I purposely put "New" I quotes. Galactica '78 was one of my childhood favorites. I grew up hearing about its possible return...I gave up....Then comes Space A&B. From the producers of The X-Files. I had expectations of there being more action...Don't get me wrong it is its own show and I accept that (not only do I accept it I'm a fan and own the DVD)...But it's natural to have expectations. That's not weird, it's natural.
      And don't think Adama from '78 did a lot of crying.
      Also, in no way belittling your service. My idea of the "New" Battlestar ( again '78) was not Afghanistan in space...This is not about what would make a good show, just childhood expectations.

    • @thethoughtcriminal8786
      @thethoughtcriminal8786 5 років тому

      @@griff3683 I didn't server in the Afghan war, I was out of the military before 911. I was referencing the military experience. Most soldiers are not "jarhead," their normal people. But what you don't understand about the military is it isn't "action packed," it's mostly a slow grind of "hurry up and wait," and in the case of combat situations brief moments of insanity. Space Above and Beyond has a very realistic military feel to it....better then most Sci-Fi shows. I criticized your comments because they were weak at best. You have every right to your opinion...I for one absolutely despise the reboot of Battlestar Galactica for the very reason you didn't like Space AandB. Now, there is a soap opera marketed toward women, trying to be a military show, with a lazy Jar Jar Abrams "mystery box" spin in it....and the pay off for the show was never worth the hype. Also, When Adama cried it was appropriate.

    • @griff3683
      @griff3683 5 років тому

      @@thethoughtcriminal8786 I think you have taken this to place it was not to be taken...I wasn't looking for a Real War reinactment...I was looking for the Fantasy and Sci-Fi that was offered by Star Wars and the Original Battlestar...you know FOR KIDS!!!...I was 12 years old for the love of God. Real War is not what I needed to see...My comments being weak...I guess that's the way an adult who has seen combat might see it...BUT I WAS 12 YEARS OLD!!! ....I'm not why sure you're getting that part.

  • @tiemmeberehev7182
    @tiemmeberehev7182 4 роки тому +1

    some good guest actors, the clown in the halloween is also the voice of KITT from knight rider

  • @mose717
    @mose717 5 років тому +1

    Recently one of those flying bikes came up at auction. It was still in remarkably good shape, it had obviously been put into storage after the show and wouldn't have taken much work at all to get it running again.

  • @robdcollector2808
    @robdcollector2808 5 років тому +10

    ...this 1980 BG really was bad. The return of starbuck was awesome and sad to see

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 3 роки тому

      It was actually an episode that was taped during the original series but not aired they just threw that in

  • @Anacronian
    @Anacronian 5 років тому +63

    18:26 "Sadly we live in an increasingly darker world than that which produced the original battlestar Galactica back in 1978..." - as somebody who were young in 1978 I have to state you have no idea what you are talking about.
    In 1978, we had several wars, terrorist killings, a massacre of peaceful protesting workers and yes the ever looming threat of an all out nuclear war.
    My friend the world of today with its slew of problems is pure paradise i comparison, Take it from somebody who were there.

    • @geographyinaction7814
      @geographyinaction7814 5 років тому +14

      You are an idiot. The world we live in today, is a cesspool, in 2017, the US had over 800 mass shootings...EIGHT HUNDRED!!!!! By the way, your spelling and grammar sucks, and yes, in 1978, I was ten, so I was around.

    • @douglasrowland9986
      @douglasrowland9986 5 років тому +19

      @@geographyinaction7814 , seriously? Before calling somebody an idiot, you should know what the hell you are talking about! In 1978 there was total of 19,560 murders out of a population of 218 million or 0.009% versus 17,284 murders out of a population of 325 million or 0.005%, making 1978 almost twice as violent! Overall crime rate was far higher in 1978 with 11.2 million incidents vs only 9.0 million in 2017! Besides what does a 10 year old kid know of the world? Evidently not much by your example!

    • @RictusHolloweye
      @RictusHolloweye 5 років тому +8

      @@geographyinaction7814 - Statistically the world has never been more safe and peaceful than it is now. At least on a per capita basis. Also far less poverty, better education and as much as people complain about "political correctness" it has led to better social awareness toward people who would have been beaten up for simply existing back in the seventies. I, too, remember those times.
      Also, it's possible than English is not Anacronian's first language. If so... well, I make it a rule never to mock the language skills of people who can speak more languages than me.

    • @geographyinaction7814
      @geographyinaction7814 5 років тому +5

      @@RictusHolloweye Statistics didn't show planes flying into buildings in 2001, statistics don't protect people from mass shootings. Statistics are based on what has happened, and do not show what will happen, people's actions are not determined by mathematics. I don't remember an incident in the 70's that came close to 9/11. The Cold War offered the protection of MAD, today instead of there being two big bullies on the street, we have one. We also have huge numbers of weapons from the former Soviet Union in the hands of despot nations, terrorists and leaders in nations that want to try their hands at colonialism or at least enjoy the riches of the same. We have turned the corner on controlling (weaponizing)disease, engineered chemical and biological weapons, and the ability to unleash them in numbers and in concentrations that World War One engineers would be horrified by. We have the ability to destabilize a country and an economy with a few keystrokes, and we can do the same with infrastructure. There are large numbers of Westerners that fear Islam, not Islamic fanatics that are represented by a few, but people who fear all Muslims, a group that represent about 23% of the world's population and for the most part are peaceful. All the while that this happens, we have the United States acting as though it's version of democracy should be exercised by all or all should be made to exercise democracy. There is a reason that the United States, Great Britain and most other countries have refined, increased and improved the Special Forces communities in their forces, it is because enemies no longer fight under flags but under the guise of terrorism and unrecognized states where you cannot predict or fight the danger. I haven't even mentioned the changes in the economy whereby the middle class has disappeared, people working multiple jobs to remain at or just above the poverty line, the thousand of jobs lost to globalization...what about the fact that we have over 7 billion people and we cannot feed everyone. and there is climate change which will influence borders, water supply and hunger. There are plenty of reasons to be fearful and just because we've never seen these types of problems statistically, doesn't mean they wont rear their head.

    • @gups4963
      @gups4963 5 років тому +5

      Look at modern violent crime stats and most of your frustration with racial injustice is invalid. If you want to say being poor is what causes that problem in many cases I'd agree, but there is also a sideffect that has hit that community especially hard from welfare and how it is designed to keep people dependent upon it. You don't see this violent crime in that community before welfare and the breaking of the black family. I'm fairly certain the statistics you are using for mass shootings is the one that is anything over 2 people shot, which is kind of loading the dice as it involves more traditional criminal issues and weapons that were illegal to begin with. anti-Muslim crime lol, that is the one that is just silly. Going by proportion it's anyone who happens to be on the wrong side of that community that comes out losing. Perhaps if the government would stop adding elements to the U.S. that exacerbate problems that were on the mend things wouldn't continue to be a big problem. In the end though the net and the ease of access to information that has come out in the last 25 years is skewing your perspectives

  • @Leftatalbuquerque
    @Leftatalbuquerque 5 років тому

    I just discovered you and your posts. 1978? I WAS THERE!!!

  • @williamdeberry3232
    @williamdeberry3232 4 роки тому +1

    It was a great show. Of its time. Its was a head of its time.