Those were intentionally planted clues and mistakes, boys. They want you solving that obvious case and figuring out those obvious mistakes. Gotta be a little bit smarter than the average tv watcher. You see what they want you to see.
As a person who has worked with various drones over the last 8 years, both military and contractor, I can tell you that thermal blankets work, but you can't just cover up with them or drape them over you. As that blanket heats up, so will your thermal footprint. If you can, make an overhang of some sort where it's off your body, and air can flow through to keep it cool. If not, you'll eventually light up like a Christmas tree.
That was my first thought. Adapting mylar thermal blankets to mask your heat signature. Perhaps camo one and wear it like a poncho or line a guile suit with one.
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes The tyrannical government seems a lot more plausible in today's day and age. However, they should show this to all UKR trainees.
Took part in exercises out at Ft Irwin where drones were heavily used as part of the event. We discovered that using our poncho liner like a tarp over our individual positions, covered with a bit of the vegetation for concealment it completely blocked the thermal image. The drone operators told us they could not see a trace of us during the AAR.
ghillie suits have same effect, extra layering mixed with vegetation, mud, etc. breaks up thermal silhouette to the point of being indistinguishable from background/environment heat, wildlife, etc.
Are you sure they don't have drones, or the tech, that can see you though? You have to assume the anti-gravity aircraft they're flying over NJ right now do.
Notice the camera man didn't show up on thermal. thats because the camera man is invisible to thermal and impervious to all known forms of damage. This is a really solid tactic.
Mike, video idea; bring in someone you've met or known through your military service who is a professional tracker. Put a go pro on yourself and also the Tracker to see how long you can evade them. That could show a lot of this training you bring us in a unique way. You could even have voiceover or subtitles for both so we can know what's going through each persons decision making in relative real time. No matter what, I love the channel my man!
One warning: this single video is already 40 minutes long. Mike has already said that some tracking exercises can last multiple days, so it is easy to expect 1h length per 24h of tracking, day and night. That said, if Mike is good enough to take 3-5 days to catch or lose, i would TOTALLY watch all 3-5h long video LMAO
My jaw dropped seeing the water example. I did NOT expect the water surface to look pitch black right over your body. Thank you for the great instructions.
Glass is similarly reflective, not that that's applicable knowledge in the situations in this video. But I guess in an urban environment -> hide in a car, the drone's IR camera can't see through car windows.
When you realize Tom & Jerry showing you breathing through a reed snorkel is top tier advice for hiding from the evil oppressors hunting you in the dystopian future.
We had a wanted criminal in our area being actively hunted by the Sheriff Dept's thermal drone. It's about the size of two adult bikes laid seat to seat. He used this exact tactic by jumping in a pond and using a large straw or Reed to evade the drone.
Those drones start around 200K.. So if they are using one.. They have a budget big enough to buy the Judges necessary to justify whatever happens to you.. So .. Good video. By the way, you can put a couple sticks/branches into your backpack or system to hold that thermal Camo sheet just a couple inches over your head while moving and it will stay at ambient temp. And cover your backpack FFS.. shorten your stride as well when you can to keep your warm legs from flashing out from under. Lessons from Hog Hunting. Remember.. this is thermal.. and IR and UV are very different. One of them can see through those trees and shrubs.
I had the same idea about propping up the blanket. Might be able to repurpose some kind of mosquito netting hat. As to the backpack; wouldn't it be close to ambient temperature? That said, throwing the IR sheet over it would accomplish the same draping/distancing effect from your body. And taking the time to arrange the IR sheet draped above your body for further movement would be a better use of your time in an initial hide site than reapplying face camo as he does here.
Cannot say, that any of this is impressive. Observing what "Government" has done, and find it to be deleterious. Truth hidden at every turn, by "Government". Who is the Governor of this World?? Do you really believe, that any Man is Fit to Rule any other Man?? Or Human to rule Humanity?? Would you forcibly rob your neighbor, to pay for things you want?? Then why in the World, do you find it acceptable to "Vote" for someone else to do this?? That is exactly what you do, everytime you "Vote" for "Government".
Former midrange “drone” operator here. I don’t ever remember a time where I followed a target at night in inclement weather. To me, that’s the best time to do operations. Not to say that larger platform’s with multi million dollar payloads couldn’t find you but hey, everyone has a budget.
Another thing is most NATO countries will use their assets not for engagement but to drive the prey to the hunters. It may even flip back and forth between air or ground assets to flush out the target. Same with Western artillery, it will often drive you into a blocking force.
The thing about drones is a drone only has to get lucky once....drone swarms are coming soon and they can be on station 24/7....you would need to eat/sht and sleep while evading drone after drone day after day.
@@brokeandtired it really is terrifying it allows a possibility of eradication tactics that Ghengis Khan could have only dreamed of. I hope it's seen as nuclear weapons that becomes globally regulated. But then you have to worry about a global monopoly of use. Self replicating rouge swarms. I think it makes the possibility of EMP strike that much more likely. It really is a wild time!
It AMAZES me you tube actually pushes these videos out. I hope yall realize how lucky we are to have this info at our fingertips. This is a lifetime of a training and experience we get while laying in bed. Man this is good stuff. Keep it up dude
it's a bunch of LARPing. NONE of the people in this video have any legitimate training nor combat experience evading thermal drones. The US military has literally never faced this threat and is completely delusional about it, and drones in general
Na its just common sense, break body contact with ambient temperature fabric/foliage/terrain and flank the flank (j-hook). Imagine not having drones with 40 feet of uhmwpe 300 lb test fishing line trailing behind them to trade pennies on the dollar with "superior" technology.
Knowledge is one thing…… getting out and practicing to gain first hand experiences is what makes the difference. I can almost guarantee 98% watching won’t.
Are they not silver and shiny ya good fkin luck with that, dumbest thing I read this week, he literally said afghanis outsmarted the US drones with nothing but a wool blanket, which can be made into a camo pattern
My dad passed away recently he is from Idaho unfortunately I’ve been gone being In the military, we used to bond over your videos and just wanted to say thanks Mike for keeping me sane and having something every Sunday to watch and enjoy and close to home.
Sorry to hear that brother. I lost my mother recently its something you can never prepare for. Jesus Christ helped me through it, you're in my prayers much love brother.
Prayers to you sir. It's been almost 2 years since I lost my dad to super cancer from the 💉 and it's hard, especially at first. Keep your head up and remember him fondly. Every day I think about him and what he would want for me and my family.
@@AFriendOfYours0most are using ots flight controllers except the military grade which have a couple proprietary fc systems. The software is written in various programming languages and the the fc itself can parse scripting languages like Lua, Java, and python. Some use an R-pi for onboard external processing as well. They're using primarily arm based processors. Some are running 8bit systems and some 32 and 64 bit.
I've been watching a lot of battle footage from the war in Ukraine for the last two years. FPV drones and bo mber drones are going to be the biggest threat on the modern battlefield. They're scary as hell. Russia has taken hundreds of thousands of cas ualties. Some tips: Spread out. The more people within expl osion radius of you makes you that more attractive of a target. Also, traveling through dense brush, while much harder, may make it harder to get you with an fpv drone, though you'll probably be at more of a disadvantage against a bom ber. Bonus if you can move through without leaving much of a trail. If you build and underground hideout, make an entrance tunnel with a sharp bend in it so the drone can't fly straight in and det onate. Note: I'm no expert and don't pretend to be. These are just observations. Take with a grain of salt.
@@GUNNER67akaKelt my observations for a civilian vs hostile military would be to have beforehand dug a burrowing hole 2m deep, with two exits. it doesnt need to be a shooting foxhole. preferably both exits would be covered by a cloth/tarp of some sort, spruce/fir/pine branches can suffice in a pinch. if you hear a drone overhead or see your friends getting blown to bits all of a sudden - leg it to the hole and take cover there. catch your breath/drink some water and then exfiltrate from there in smaller numbers at a time. basically, make the enemy use very expensive weapons against a few guys at a time
The threat of FPV drones is now probably the greatest it's ever been and the least discussed. A good pilot can penetrate through thick cover (or just bypass it altogether) and dive bomb on a target from above the tree canopy. With an explosive payload that covers a wider area, there isn't much need for accuracy on that final moment where I commit to a suicide dive into the bushes/rocks/cave etc. Would love to see more scenarios with FPV drones piloted by competent operators. Thank you for a very thought-provoking video demonstration!
At least it's quick, probably wouldn't even realize, I'd imagine the last thing you'd hear was some sort of odd whooshing sound, but you'd be shaking hands with saint Peter before you even registered what it was. Fast as a bolt of lightning.
@@samaelsandalphon5600you wouldn’t hear anything dude. At least not after the detonation, the supersonic shock wave travels at about Mach 8 meaning your brain wouldn’t even have time to process a single thing after the detonation. And yeah it would be quick and painless as you would be turned into a vapor in milliseconds
@@adawg3032 I mean you might be able to hear it flying right before it detonates, for maybe a fraction of a second, then again, they can airburst those things too, so maybe not.
"Be as good as a soldier, be as practiced as them in fact be better than them; because one day your family might rely on you." Excellent advice that I needed to hear. At 31 and bearing regrets for never having enlisted, if I can't be a veteran I can be the best civilian I can be.
You can still enlist, but we all know you won't. And your idea of what being a good civilian is is kinda weird and fcked up, there are real problems that you can fix, but not if you're in the woods playing pew pew games and pretending to be hunted.
First, nothing but respect for Mike for bringing this content to us. I just need to say though, the most important things Mike said, were the things he barely touched on: 1. Get rid of, or find a way to truly shut off, your electronics. Remember, Off buttons are not off buttons. 2. Do not transmit any signals unless it is your last resort. 3. These small drones they were using may only have IR cameras, but your bigger group 4/5 aircraft have a lot more. I can't go into all of it, but I can say that you better stick to the trees at all times. That may not save you, but it will give you a better chance. 4. Finally, try not to put yourself high enough on the hitlist to warrant being hunted by drones as a guerilla warfare operative. If you do, you better be training your replacement as well.
@@GameplayRunner Literally even the watches they give soldiers are EMP hardened. Many of the larger (although still man portable: I'm not talking about Global Hawk even) are literally hardened to survive lighting strikes, which is also easier and cheaper than you would think.
Imagine a series where you do a simulated evasion event where Mike carries a GoPro and everything is stitched together like this. Would be an amazing series.
There was a series on discovery back in the day, where an American ex military (forget what branch or unit) would travel around the world and challenge military trackers, border guards and police forces to try catch him. Seemed like the coolest game of hide and seek.
When I was in Afghanistan I watched on ISR feed an insurgent hide in a tiny bush for over 48 hours. You couldn't see his heat signature in the bush but we tracked him to the bush and he didn't leave for 48 hours. We eventually sent a team to the bush to apprehend him. We also had a COP infiltrated by 6 insurgents who lowcrawled warring wet blankets. The wet blankets masked thier thermal images from the RAID camera. Once they entered the COP and shot a few soldiers they were traped. They had no ware to run to and no ware to hide they were all killed. I also for my own curiosity tested thermal blankets to see if they could mask my heat signature. They mask my heat signature of a human body shape with that of a heat signature in the shape of a big solid rectangle without uneven heating. Not to many rectangles in nature. My suggestion if you are going to use a mylar blanket to mask your heat signature is to cut it into an irragular shape to try and break up unnatral lines. I would also use it in addition with a ghillie cape or blanket to create unequil heating so your not one solid temprature signature.
@@southwestoklahomaairsoftcl9889 that is a sound plan, as long as you have luxury of operating only at night. When drone is up usually that means its not you who picked the time of engagement.
I’m a 64 yr old civilian. I have hunted all my life. Spot & stalk. Love camping, fishing & hiking. This vid taught me a lot regarding evading a drone. My first thought as you were evading the “soldiers” looking for you was why didn’t you set any booby traps of any kind? For example the type used by the VC? Punji sticks, that type thing. I would thing that if I were in that situation I’d carry thinks I could use to quickly set something up if I had some distance between me and my followers. Just a thought. I realize I would need to be careful where I set a trap as if the drone sees me doing it I’ve wasted my time
CARPET SHOES! Take shag carpet. Turn it upside DOWN. Make a pair tying it over your boots with 5050 cord as laces. Sew the heel so that it cups your heel. I am a master professional tracker and this makes it much much more difficult to follow your tracks. Before using them wear them in the field to knock off the loose bits. These hold up very well for a few days. Google carpet shoes border. This will give you an idea of how they look.
Huh, that's like something used by tribe enforcers, feather anklets, so you can't track back to who did the punishment. Even if you have a fair idea you can't know for sure.
I like how the thermal camera doesn't pick up Micha, the invisible cameraman outsmarts thermal drones! Edit: I’ve never had likes on a comment, I’m blown away, thank you guys for that. Also yes I’m well aware it was b-roll footage but stated what we all wanted it to really be instead. 🙂
Nah I definitely know for a fact now, that was B-roll. They had Mike run the same line without micha there for the thermal. Not that hard to deduce. 😂😂😂
Mike mentioned something on another SERE video that no matter what you have for concealment, how you travel, when or where, if the pursuers have well trained dogs, it’s game over. Impactful statement.
This is awesome. I’ve now seen two pov’s. Being hunted and hunting with modern equipment. You guys are a wealth of knowledge and we appreciate you sharing.
This video is great, it covers all the main points really well. One small thing I would add is to mind your shadow, especially in the morning and evening, basically any time the sun isn’t directly overhead. There have been times where I could not see the target I was looking for directly due to top cover, but was able to spot their shadow peeking out. Laying down makes it hard to discern the difference between you and the ground or foliage, but if you’re sitting up or standing it’s pretty easy to tell. If you’ve been sitting in the same spot for a while, your shadow will also make a temperature difference on the ground, so it’s visible in IR as well. Also, when you’re hiding under a rock or bushes or anything close to the ground, try not to disturb or dig up the ground outside of the cover. The ground underneath the top layer of soil is a lot cooler, and is surprisingly visible in IR for a decent amount of time.
@@GrumpyGenXGrampsThat would suck running around in the woods wearing thermal mylar blankets. You would overheat. It would probably be better to make some type of through blanket to cover your whole body when in a halt.
They focused heavily on thermal, but most of these gov. drones have day camera and thermal and they will switch back and forth between them for better situational awareness. So just because you are hidden from the thermal I.E the water, doesn't mean you are hidden from the day camera.
Remember this is to increase your chances of survivability. If you have a shitty hand of cards then there comes a point to accept and embrace defeat and even death. That's why,you have to live your fullest life happy with no regrets.
I'll bet by the time we have a conflict they'll have A.I. processing the images looking for humans automatically on top of that, if they don't already.
Not going to lie, as a combat marine that served in iraq, almost 20 years ago, this new stuff scares me. Most of my training was CQB, kicking in those doors. I did do some moutain training in the marine corps moutain training area, bridgeport CA but nothing like this. Im picking up what your putting down. These becoming deadly videos are fucking outstanding. Please keep these comeing. The information is highly likely to save someones life. Semper Fi
Yea, I don't feel much better knowing that our way of sleeping is hot tents lmao. And being from Finland you kinda have to have heated tents during the winter, meanwhile being out in the forest and not being able to go into a bunker. I wanna know how are planning to counter drones..
The drone sound is the scariest sound on earth when you don’t want to hear it. Been there. Such an unfair thing to evade but it’s absolutely doable with all these tips what an excellent video as always.
I would also recommend following S2 Underground for more content like this. As a former US Army Intelligence Specialist his video on drone evasion is top notch. His daily Intel briefings (the wire) are also a great way to get a snap shot of current domestic and international events.
@@improvingamericashomes6530 I feel that more today, but it could be recency bias. Authoritarian and tyrannical governments are rising all over the world, and they take many shapes. Political spectrum is thrown out the window, in these cases, and I am adamant that the US is knocking on the door of tyranny as well. There have been hints for a long time; both left and right-wing mandates have passed new and more mass surveillance technologies, and it is blindness to look down on Russian and Chinese dictatorships when it is happening in our homeland. Be careful out there, lads. If shit hits the fan (I believe it won't, but just in case), may you succeed. Do it for the people, always the people, never corporations or world leaders. We are all in the same boat.
I'm so glad he was not with us in Ukraine as in his first opening act in this video he shoots an unarmed combatant. There is a big difference between UA-cam and real life.
@@yamaha450man yes after being in Syria Bosnia Iraq and Ukraine I definitely have a low IQ. There have been a lot of bangs and booms in my life. However that does not change the statement I made
@@HarrisburgShopping Except the fictional dude had a firearm on his chest if your eyes worked, and the rules state that if they had walked past, then they would need to give medical care, as they had decided the wounded guy was not a threat. People have faked being injured before so the enemy gets closer, allowing for an easier shot on someone who doesn't expect it. Also, going to places with a lot of warfare does not necessarily make you intelligent. Also also, civilians are neither beholden to nor protected by any of the rules of warfare, and insurgents and spies are on the list of people you can remove from the equation without repercussions.
Multiple points: 1. I've heard of camera detectors like the ones sold to find voyeur hotel room camers being useful to detect high altitude drone presence. 2. Take a meat thermometer and tape it to a camo light blanket. Then, pick an evasion route along any stream or creek shore. Dunk the blanket in the stream and put it back over yourself. When you see the meat thermometer rise above the ground temperature, stop and re-wet your blanket.
You would be hiding from the drone, to an extent, but you would be much easier to track with conventional methods. The camera detector tip could be useful though.
Russian Spetsnaz have been wearing a cloak/poncho that greatly reduces their heat signature and makes it considerably more difficult to see them from the drones we've been seeing for the past few years. I'm not clear as to what additional tech they're using along with this in the form of detection, but they're certainly far more hidden from the sky than the average poor fool in the Russian military we're seeing on drone feeds every other hour on reddit.
Note on the water 'rationing'. There is 1 thing that helps significantly in retaining more water and that is breathe through your nose, both in and out if the situation (physical exertion) allows it.
100% and training at the limit of barely being able to keep up respiration by breathing through your nose is great cardio training for hiking, rucking and jogging. I've also seen some studies that say that staying at that level of exertion is where your body uses fat most efficiently as a caloric resource so you can drop body fat in training and pack more efficient food sources in operation.
Also...little known fact...If you turn 68 degrees when you need to fart, it'll save calories, and reduce your heat signature. Also will give you winning lottery numbers.
Ive been patiently waiting for another becoming deadly in the mountains video and im so glad we’re getting them again. I would consume this type of content every week without fail. I enjoy the other stuff but this is absolutely the pinnacle of your channel
What isn't addressed.Know your area. Drainage pipes, tucked up under a bridge . Caves. Or dgging a hole. A lest a dirt covered nitch. Under water is great if you got. That isn't frozen, or has gators. Unused large enough vehicles. Then there's diverting attention. By creating false heat signature. Anything from a candle, campfire, to setting the woods ablaze.
TWO HUGE THINGS NOT MENTIONED THAT MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE AS AN OPERATOR. Two amazing tactics I learned from the Taliban. I was stationed in Afghanistan in late stage doing ISR and learned 2 amazing tactics that can be imployed in Gorilla Warfare. 1. Planning attacts around events. It was common that the Taliban would plan attacks around religous hours and weddings, allowing them to strike targets, and immediately run into Mosques or crowds during prayer time. They would fade in with the crowd and leave with the crowd. Id tract them into these events after they striked, know they were the target, HOWEVER, thermal does not allow for easy identification. Wed only be able to tract based on thermal outline, size, and GAIT (the way you walk). The way you walk is so important. Typically leaving the events they would not split up, and walk out together with the same gait allowing me to still tract them. HOWEVER, even so, there was no definitive way to positively identify them as the target so authorization to strike would not be given. 2. Planning attacks around inclimiate weather. The taliban would only attack during bad weather or what we call RED air. This means the weather is to volitile to fly in. If there is bad weather, air assests like winged aircraft (F15 Strike Eagle ect) and smaller drones will be grounded. Fixed wings cant fly because the planes will literally ice over from the moisture and cold at high altitudes. This means during inclimate weather you can move freely. Typically the Taliban would only attack on these days, when wed have our guard down because of the bad weather, they were using it to their advantage to suprise and evade undetected. THESE 2 TACTICS ALLOWED THEM TO STAY IN THE FIGHT UNTIL WE WITHDREW FROM AFGHANISTAN. We need to learn from and replicate our enemies tactics because they work.
RED AIR I like that phrase describes it well. Way back in the day, messenger pigeons and riders could not just be sent out because of bad weather or would take longer to reach their destinations. Having a birds eye view from tall trees or a mountain was useless in bad weather. Bad weather defeated Alexander the Great. Some things about the art of war never change weather gage being one of them. We Europeans definitely used these guerilla tactics in the past, took Rome a long time to concur us because of it.
Mike, At 70 and being a little beat up, I am pretty sure I won't be doing any drone evasion, but I found this video extremely educational. I was fascinated and I learned a lot from it. Thank you.
I trust the younger warriors are paying attention and learning. Like you, I won’t likely be rucking or patrolling anything but my neighborhood or Alamo. I will contribute anything I can until the end…
I was just the Guinea Pig for my local Town PD testing their Individual FLIR/Thermal Handhelds in a woodland/urban environment. Very interesting results, turns out old knowledge from the late 90s SERE school can hide you super good enough. Now if OpFor has it on a Helo and can bring a lot of personnel to a specific point and saturate an area in a short amount of time you need to either get rid of the observing device or become invisible quick. But having said that, the better you know your AO the better your chances are of evading. There's my two cents, you're welcome Internet RLTW
@Shooter_ready556 A couple weeks back we had a methed out dude strip down and cover himself in mud like in predator. They watched him on the drone as he did it, and he ended up getting away! He got caught a bit later when he popped back up walking down the road covered in mud, but he did evade 3 drones and 2 dogs.
My biggest takeaway. Every time a deer or elk evaded you it was a learning experience. They know all the tricks. Elk and occasionally deer are very skilled at using the J-hook.
I love this series Other things I learned from this video. 15:43 Your camoflage paint kits mirror really shines, just before you make a point of hiding your shiny watch. 20:02 Rubbing your nose is bad for your face camo.
To be fair, I don’t think the plan is to walk around with the camo paint kit out and open for more than maybe a minute at a time and I wouldn’t think you’d be reapplying if you’re under immediate danger
He's addressing the people watching so he is likely putting more focus on staying animated for the camera then he is evading at that moment. If I had the mirror out I'd probably lay on my back to point it at the ground, and he probably would too if in actual danger. As for the nose touching, that is just going to happen sometimes. You're sweaty as fuck, got a bunch of crap on your face, and are stressed out. You subconsciously touch your face all the time without knowing. That's a big reason people prefer face coverings I think. What do I know though, I am just a guy trying to apply common sense to a situation.
Most modern ISR platforms also have integrated EW sensors. So yes, I cannot stress the importance of killing any type of device that can intercept/transmit any type of radio signal.
In Manitoba Canada the provincial government hired private security to monitor us and make sure we abided by the lockdowns. Drones were used in rural hamlet communities. The drones would hover over year just out of reach until you left your yard and went back inside. Happened to my wife twice while she was working in the garden.
I've been saying it for years, learn to hunt. It really really really teaches you 90% of these skills. If you're reading this, you're of the mindset that I'm talking to. GO HUNT. There's infinite reasons to do it, if you needed that last push, this is it. Go hunt. Get out there and fucking do it. You'll see how little you know, you'll see how ill prepared you are, you'll see everything. Get out there, hunt.
Been hunting, fishing, scouting, & trapping ever since I was old enough to. 62 now and I still like to practice being hard to track. I got to hang out with a government trapper as I was growing up. Dude could track a coyote across bedrock (slight exaggerating).
Totally agree on going hunting. Camping. If you're new to camping and hunting start one or two days at a time. A weekend. Later on, go longer. As you wrote, "you'll see how little you know, you'll see how ill prepared you are, you'll see everything." Best advice ever for hunting, camping, or in worst case scenario survival if shtf. As an avid outdoors man and hunter, Thank you for putting it into what's so precisely worded. All the best.
I'm consistently amazed by the people who ask "why do you NEED to know this" about all sorts of things. What happened to human curiosity and the desire to learn?
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 people fear they're taken as some sort of "nefarious weirdo" by their peers if they inform themselves about these things. And some fear the conclusions behind the idea that they themselves might be responsible for their own safety and the safety of those who they supposedly love. They cannot pretend the world is fine and alright if needing to do these things might become a possibility. So they hide their own insecurity and fear behind an aura of smugness. I had a friend over and I was talking with my brother about being prepared and all, and the friend said in a smug ironic voice "Wait you guys are prepping?" and we both responded shocked "You don't?" That "friend" didn't like that one bit and became really infuriated about how ridiculous we were and that all our "fantasies" won't come true and that everything is fine. Man he got of like a bottle rocket, over us simply saying that we prep for different things.
It’s even more absurd if you saw Russian rockets being fired at our ally and having Belarusian helicopters violating our airspace. UA-cam is not only for the US 😅
These "how to survive" videos are fantastic for us civilians looking to better our ability to respond to the seemingly ever increasing reality that this might become. Great vid series, Mike.
yea, if trumps plan comes to fruition, then a dictatorship is in effect, hes already said that no one will need to vote in 4 years, he'll have fixed it........
This shit wont teach you nothing... you can be the best soldier of this fkn planet.. a reallife big boss. You wont escape any drone, if a drones has set you as a target you are dead.
Thank you Mr. Thumb. It’s hard to blame people for thinking this seems a little crazy but that perception is a weapon that some would use against us. It’s crazy. Right up until it happens
Love this series. Would love to see this in a series where it’s you vs an actual group in a competition. Could be each video is a different environment and see whether or not you survive. Could even throw in a prize to the winner at the end of that series.
I think a competition, with set rules and structure, would give a false impression of the difficulty of SERE in action. Every real situation is going to be different, with each survivor having varied levels of gear, varied levels of head start vs their pursuers, in varied environments, and with very different concerns depending on the enemy's capabilities and all the other factors.
8:14 The production quality here is exceptional. I love the fact that the stitched ISR drone footage omits Micah, meaning that y'all had to film a sequence where only Mike was running with the drone overhead. I don't think people understand how much work goes into just filming something that way, let alone where your primary segments are built around the information being disseminated. I appreciate every bit of what y'all do. Can't wait for the videos where you show us how to drive some of these military vehicles or steal/fly/land a helo 🤣😂
@@micahmayfieldit’s not you mag dumping into trash, buts still solid content. Micah we need answers on the last part of his content. Teach us how to strategically relocate a helo. 🤣
Reading the description for these drones on websites where they are available for purchase, it seems like the best way to evade drones is to do your business on days that are either windy or moderately rainy or worse, or both
@@floorman92 its the flying part that doesnt work well in the rain. plus, with a downward looking lens, the water droplets will hang right in the way of the lens anyway
I teach sUAS design and have numerous Radiometric and other sensor certs. IMHO small unmanned vehicles have fundamentally changed the way we can now employ infantry or armor on the battle filed. The first time( and this was before the laws changed about 8 years ago) I flew a fixed wing seven miles away and dropped eggs on my mother in laws car as it sat in her driveway I knew we were in for something big. That was 6 miles BLOS with a foam core fixed wing PNP platform running a $75 dollar flight controller, a $200 1.2 ghz video link and a sub hundred dollar 433mhz control link carrying around 1.5lbs of eggs. The maximum range on that setup was a little under 12 miles with a good helical on the GCS. All that capability with off the shelf mid range kit.
A piece of advice about electronics, particularly smartphones is turn them off even in a Faraday pouch. Once they lose all radio and GPS connectivity, they turn their radios up to full power to try and reestablish a link. This kills batteries super fast. If you think you might need that phone later, turn it off or it will be dead when you pull it out of the Faraday pouch.
@@MB-jg4tr Correct. I guess it's going to depend on your needs. I'd shut off just to maximize battery savings. Just wanted everyone to be aware of the behavior of their device.
@@airmanfpv964 Why not? I mean, if you're in an actual combat unit, maybe leave it behind. But that's not the scenario in this video. I'm letting people know how their devices work, do with that what you will.
Carry a bamboo straw with you incase you have to hide in a pond or stream. Matt Axelson, during SEAL training, specifically SERE hid in a pond. I can’t remember how many hours it took but he finally moved out from the pond and turned himself in to continue the course.
A snorkel in your kit might be an awesome addition even if it was just a length of pipe or an old piece of hose if you are in an area with water you know you can get into.
20:02 rubbing that camo off the nose talking about footsteps and concealability, I am pretty keen at tracking through Oregon brush. Real thick stuff in the mountains. Got grasses, rhodies, vine maple, berry bushes, large and medium sized trees. Elevation change can be relatively dramatic in some of my areas. Can usually tell what type of game trail I'm on based on the width, height of broken branches or other 'spoor'. Deer, elk break branches at head height and occasionally scrape trees. Coyote, cougar walk lightly and are narrow. Coyotes sleep out in the open. Bears leave wide trails and are heavy. They also tear the hell out of the ground, sometimes looks like bark dust. Coyotes and cougars use bear trails sometimes, where rabbits, quail and berries can often also be found. you pretty quickly can pick up on direction of movement, if you are leaving a physical path, make it confusing to follow. Green stuff in the open bends a certain way, even if it springs back up, it may develop a crease. Sometimes I shuffle through in those scenarios, without really 'scraping' my feet. As opposed to a crease you leave a smoother path. Sometimes you bend that grass backwards. Try different things, take advantage of what's around. People are at a slight disadvantage being bipedal. Don't be afraid to get in that underbrush and bear crawl. It is difficult to actively track in a thicket. A good hunter may not track you through it, but rather meet you on the other side- or burn you out of it. Get out there and play around. Black bear season. :)
That was the sickest intro I've ever seen. If you ever make a full movie it would likely be one of the most watched military movies ever seen. Love the content!
@frankg323 Absolutely Sold! Incorporate the evasion techniques. I watch Bad Lands on Netflix last night and the beginning and end is alright but throughout the middle. None of the movement makes sense. You got the dude walking in the wide f@#king open talking on coms, in the most hostile territory you can be, like he wasn't just almost blown up. Rambo filmed in 82 and 85 made more sense then that.
Drones are terrifying not only can the hunt you in thermal but it only a matter of time before thermal gets cheap enough to be put on a disposable explosive drone thanks for the video Mike
@@JeronimoStilton14foxeer has a sub-$1000 thermal camera currently used on night kamikaze quadcopters by both sides in Ukraine. The future is robots killing people in their sleep.
I was just out in the mountains by idaho city yesterday testing out my kit. If you don't often spend time walking through nature, you should. There's a huge difference between hiking on a trail and being in the middle of the woods. Moving through nature without making too much noise is an art Edit: I'm not saying I'm good at it yet, just that I'm aware it's a skill that needs to be developed
Infantry for 20 years. I can move silently through the woods... Right up until my smokers cough and farts give me away. Even if you think you're moving quietly, the animals moving away from you aren't. Quit pretending you're stealthy.
Commercial UAS pilot in the UK here. I had an interesting conversation with an SAS commander a while back about defeating modern drone strikes. It was a really tricky problem to solve but basically came down to "Anything semi-auto in it's flight control and long range, we can pretty easily defeat once we know where it is.However, anything with manual controls and significantly high thrust-to-weight, we have a lot less useful tools to work with." That tracks as a lot of the showcased 'counter-UAS' technologies he talked me through (without much detail) are against semi-auto aircraft like single prop fixed wing or DJI drones. However, with skilled pilots and custom built FPV quads that can do 100+ mph and have a zero-to-max speed basically instantly (
@@Iceman259 Manual control won't defeat jamming at all. It just gives you magnitudes more agility than the likes of a DJI drone where it flies itself and you just to instruct to move forward/back/left/right/up/down. What evades EM jamming/directed RF is having drones that can fail-over to their own autopilot and fly themselves once they lose receiver connection. At the minute this is usable for fixed targets- In a similar way to striking a building or immobile armour peice. The terrifying advancement would be AI based autopilot where it can be instructed to seek out a humanoid target in a geofenced area. Because once we have that active in the field, an enemy can deploy a thousand of them in a swarm working together to target and kill infantry at scale without having to put a soldier on the ground. That kind of tech is not even that far out, with a lot of R&D being done on working designs. Right now the problem is processing power when the chips are that small (little ARM processors at the minute) but I'm sure CN and the US won't have an issue putting in a custom order with Nvidia to get what's needed made.
@@_burdonce they lose rssi they'll fail over to stabilized mode and depending on the fc programming either loitering, return to launch, or rendezvous. Jamming the rc, gps and vid feed freqs should go a long way towards threat mitigation. The second piece should counter the optics, can't fly blind. Something VLF could be used to disrupt the mems gyros in the flight controller and that would take any rotary wing craft down. Fixed wing would still Glide but could be countered directly with an armed fixed wing craft flown by a competent operator if a spotter can assist with target acquisition.
@@Nylon_riot Calm down sweetheart. Drones can’t get you from your keyboard. I’m sure the people that brought manned aircraft to the first war theatre were traitors too 🙄
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what an yt era when you get tutorial how to avoid military drones! amazing
35:37 Tree lines are often close to the waters edge and a canteen getting tossed out on a string id a lot less noticable than a whole body. Just saying.
That opening scene and the juxtaposition of thinking you're top dog, looking at an ATAK to see you're being watched by an all-seeing eye, to immediately understand that you're just another cog in the military machine is amazing screenwriting!
All ”thermal camo” is based on the same principle: keep it away from your skin/clothing and it shows up as the ambient temperature. Insulation hides you, but obviously wearing a winter sleeping bag in arid summer environment isn’t the greatest experience 😅 Also, thermal doesn’t pierce glass or plastic, so there are scenarios where you can see a thermal drone but they can’t see you.
Working on my weight loss journey so I can get fit and get training. Thank you for helping to inspire me to do that. Thank you for the video! Great stuff as always.
Best thing I've ever done was detox heavy metals, this initiated the loss of 10lbs of inflammation in two weeks then another 20 in 6 months, only change in diet was more protein less grains and organic as possible, plus lots of water and supplemented minerals.
I don't know much about weight loss or your situation, but training is an excellent way of getting active and getting into shape, especially if you make a point of making your training as miserable as possible
of my 10 to 15 people i know who are into this stuff only three of them, my self included, are fit, i suspect most of them loose their breath just putting their pants on
I was just hunting elk this past weekend. Bumped in to the elk we saw each other. Elk took off. I waited a bit, tok off made a hook around and cut their tracks. Tracked them up and they had pulled the 'j' hook and were waiting just like garand thumb demonstrated off to the side. I was tracking and sweeping like one would but they had me. Couldn't get a shot off by the time they rolled out. I have seen a weary bull elk pull j hooks and clover leafs or fig 8s. Learn from guys like this and wild animals.
War is not as dangerous as people think. 90% of the time you're just walking, and engagements typically happen from pretty large distances. As long as you paid attention in training and aren't downright stupid it's actually very probable that one can survive modern warfare. It's not like it was back in the day, where warfare was much more direct and you had to pray everyday to not get shot in the face
@@somethingjustgonewrongyeah9079this statement only applies to a war in which one side (e.g. the US) has overwhelming force, and that you’re on that side. In Ukraine, estimates are 350,000 Russian troops killed which is > 87% of the number that invaded. Odds are you will die in a battle of equal force.
@@b8888whale how bout Ukraine's losses? Ya know, the one that isnt doing meat wave assaults? Also when the US invaded Iran, it was the most heavily defended airspace on the planet, and had the 3rd largest military while the US was 10th. Any thoughts? * Correction it was the invasion of Iraq not Iran*
@@UnyieldingMass they're definitely having lower losses but still, being in defensive positions under artillery barrages etc it is also very dangerous and worst part is there's little you can do to shield yourself. Deadly lottery
Could y’all do a video where you actually evade a tracker team? Like give Mike a GoPro and take footage from both sides so we can see what it’s actually supposed to look like
Yes exactly. This video was cool but it was seriously lacking on evasion tactics. It was like, camo up and run. Well yeah obviously but I expect that there's more to it
Option number 2 , if you are 65 years of age or older with a bad hip, screw playing Gi-Jo and just sit in your Lazy Boy and pop the first one through the door and your done , already had 2 near death experiences earlier in life and dying doesn't bother me in the least !
Drones give me the same feeling as AI. Once we have it, we can't go back anymore. We just need to adapt and get used to it so we don't stay behind. If we like it, or not.
I hope that our infantry get trained to control them effectively soon, but seeing as we still aren't getting better hand to hand training in basic kinda cuts that dream down in my head. ☕🐝🇺🇸
@@frucklesH2H isn’t a factor at scale. Watch Ukraine, the closet battles in ages and they aren’t dying from lack of h2h, plenty of rifles lying around to keep shooting.
I'm by no means an expert (my title actually is subject matter expert lmao) , but I have spent a great deal of time chasing service members with drones (thermal drones included).. the best thing you can do for a thermal drone like Mike said is to get into as thick of cover as you can, or get near another heat source (like hot rocks in the desert, or something else that produces heat that will hide your thermal signature)... and when it comes to wearing things like the tarp that he's wearing, you should keep it off of your body as much as possible. I've worked with guys from several Green Beret groups (shout out to 19th and 20th) and the best thing we've found for avoiding thermal detection is to toss that tarp or whatever cover you have up above you to keep the thermal signature from showing up on the camera. If the tarp/cover is touching you, you are transferring your body heat to it and giving away your concealment. Keep your body heat away from it, and it does a great job concealing against thermal. Even zip tying it to tree branches and huddling under it is pretty effective.
would an electric blanket work, if you could set it to the ambient air temperature? Although I think the blanket would have to cool down, not heat up. Are there any electric blankets that cool down rather than heat up, or do both?
I’ve heard somewhere that shooting fireworks in the air can cause problems for drones, because the heat and light from the fireworks can overwhelm the thermal and night vision sensors on drones. Is this true?
In sniper school we bought some mobile camping toilet tents, the pop up ones to cross a field at night that was guarded by thermals. As long as you don’t touch the fabric it won’t show
Dude would have been dead in first few minutes because he's trying to run with a backpack. The first thing when running for your life is lose excessive baggage and weight
I am Ex-Army born and raised in the Tropical forest. I'd like to see you try ponchos made out of natural materials. I used to throw together a quick one made out of dry and fresh banana tree leaves. Just tie the ends to a loop of 550 cord and throw it over the shoulders. Cut and tie on the go. The leaves are light, thick, and waterproof, so perhaps they can be opaque to thermals. Or break your outline. Another one that can be made while you run is a hay, grass, or palm tree poncho like the ones the Japanese used. I'd like to see how effective that one is dry and then wet. It can hold water for quite a long time. Also, just thick burlap, of the type used in coffee sacks. Dry and wet. I learned to make those as visual camo when I was a kid playing tag in the jungle. I used them in the service to aggravate people during training exercises. But I never tried them against thermals. Another trick is to only move when the wind blows if you are in audio range of a hostile. It works well in the forest, and it makes you impossible to track in elephant grass. Old school is sometimes the best school.
Frank Reynolds: Don't joke about hunting no man. That happened to me once. Cop harassing me in Oregon next thing you know there was bodies everywhere. It was a bloodbath! Dennis: I think you mixing ur life with John Rambo again.
As an old veteran, it is wild that this is now a thing. They went from toys to weapons really fast. From the movie screen to the real world even faster.
Worked very well on thermal, but I think that even most entry-level thermal drones, like the Mavic 3 Thermal, are equipped with dual sensors. It would have been nice to show both images. In brown water, this might work, but in crystal clear water, this would give you away.
@Homie111092 if you are already spotted then yes you are right. If you can get into a river before spotted you might be okay as the majority of drone operators scan on thermal.
Thermal energy hits a wall when it meets the surface of water. But visible light, while refracting, continues to pass on. Getting into the water at night may be the best option. Then again, if you need to submerge yourself in order to E&E, you're already in a very bad spot.
If it's the United States Secret Service tracking you, just find a rooftop, be as open and suspicious as possible and they'll leave you alone.
Make sure it has at least a 2" slope!
Fax
Those were intentionally planted clues and mistakes, boys. They want you solving that obvious case and figuring out those obvious mistakes.
Gotta be a little bit smarter than the average tv watcher. You see what they want you to see.
Open carry state, you can't smoke someone for just chilling on a roof with their AR...
@@Aquaticphilosophia While you see what you want to see lol.
As a person who has worked with various drones over the last 8 years, both military and contractor, I can tell you that thermal blankets work, but you can't just cover up with them or drape them over you. As that blanket heats up, so will your thermal footprint. If you can, make an overhang of some sort where it's off your body, and air can flow through to keep it cool. If not, you'll eventually light up like a Christmas tree.
Like Ralf Machio's shower curtain Halloween costume in The Karate Kid?
That was my first thought. Adapting mylar thermal blankets to mask your heat signature. Perhaps camo one and wear it like a poncho or line a guile suit with one.
So, like an umbrella
@@frekigeri4317 like an umbrella. As long as there’s airflow to allow you and the blanket to cool off, you’ll be good for a longer period of time.
@@JackWagon29 now, how do affix Mylar to the inside of my umbrella?
“Not now babe, Garand Thumb is teaching me how to evade a tyrannical government”
Or maybe for when you sign up for Ukraine so the Russians might not get you (hypothetical situation)
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepesRussians rarely use that type of drone
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes The tyrannical government seems a lot more plausible in today's day and age.
However, they should show this to all UKR trainees.
@@rico-228 He covered the suicide bomb drones, surveillance drones, and missile armed drones in this video. Russia has those types
@@theblitz6838 yes they should
Took part in exercises out at Ft Irwin where drones were heavily used as part of the event. We discovered that using our poncho liner like a tarp over our individual positions, covered with a bit of the vegetation for concealment it completely blocked the thermal image. The drone operators told us they could not see a trace of us during the AAR.
Thats good to know thanks, what about when you're in evasion mode, ie on the hoof? How did you disguise your signature then?
ghillie suits have same effect, extra layering mixed with vegetation, mud, etc. breaks up thermal silhouette to the point of being indistinguishable from background/environment heat, wildlife, etc.
Are you sure they don't have drones, or the tech, that can see you though? You have to assume the anti-gravity aircraft they're flying over NJ right now do.
@@wildbill6976 Surely these eventually heat up into a human shape? Assuming that ambient temperature is different enough from our body temp
Notice the camera man didn't show up on thermal. thats because the camera man is invisible to thermal and impervious to all known forms of damage. This is a really solid tactic.
It's called "plot armor" 🤣🤣🤣
Also cameraman never dies.
We don't need Chuck Norris when we have the cameraman.
If the shit hits the fan I'll be the cameraman :P
@@WetaMantisYou must not have seen the cameraman sucked into the whirlpool...
Son: “Mom, why is dad rolling around the yard in camouflage?” Mom: “Ughh…there must be a new Garand Thumb video out on UA-cam.”
100% this
Ah this is pretty funny
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dude :))))
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Mike, video idea; bring in someone you've met or known through your military service who is a professional tracker. Put a go pro on yourself and also the Tracker to see how long you can evade them. That could show a lot of this training you bring us in a unique way. You could even have voiceover or subtitles for both so we can know what's going through each persons decision making in relative real time. No matter what, I love the channel my man!
I second this
That would be an awesome video. I really hope he sees this
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One warning: this single video is already 40 minutes long. Mike has already said that some tracking exercises can last multiple days, so it is easy to expect 1h length per 24h of tracking, day and night. That said, if Mike is good enough to take 3-5 days to catch or lose, i would TOTALLY watch all 3-5h long video LMAO
That would be hella exciting for everyone
My jaw dropped seeing the water example. I did NOT expect the water surface to look pitch black right over your body.
Thank you for the great instructions.
Glass is similarly reflective, not that that's applicable knowledge in the situations in this video. But I guess in an urban environment -> hide in a car, the drone's IR camera can't see through car windows.
instructions for what exactly? 🤨📸
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@@ToBeIsWasWere read titles more. For protection. I love you and knowledge is gonna be power during these times. Love and pray.
We’ve got evading dogs, now evading drones, when will we get to the important stuff like evading taxes?
Amen
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I concur
LMAO
Tax evaders are just heroes without capes
When you realize Tom & Jerry showing you breathing through a reed snorkel is top tier advice for hiding from the evil oppressors hunting you in the dystopian future.
Dystopian "Future"...
Soo... next week?
Until that pesky bee comes along...
The old ways still work cover concealment camouflage distance and God's love
We had a wanted criminal in our area being actively hunted by the Sheriff Dept's thermal drone. It's about the size of two adult bikes laid seat to seat. He used this exact tactic by jumping in a pond and using a large straw or Reed to evade the drone.
Dude the level of production on this channel has gotten insane. Awesome job everyone that worked on this.
Its actually financed by the American government
@@jakedubs yeah cause this one question comes with so many details to think about, as exemplary here. That's simply all you thought about
Long way from “tip to butt”.
What does that tell you?
Those drones start around 200K.. So if they are using one.. They have a budget big enough to buy the Judges necessary to justify whatever happens to you.. So .. Good video.
By the way, you can put a couple sticks/branches into your backpack or system to hold that thermal Camo sheet just a couple inches over your head while moving and it will stay at ambient temp. And cover your backpack FFS.. shorten your stride as well when you can to keep your warm legs from flashing out from under. Lessons from Hog Hunting. Remember.. this is thermal.. and IR and UV are very different. One of them can see through those trees and shrubs.
I had the same idea about propping up the blanket. Might be able to repurpose some kind of mosquito netting hat. As to the backpack; wouldn't it be close to ambient temperature? That said, throwing the IR sheet over it would accomplish the same draping/distancing effect from your body. And taking the time to arrange the IR sheet draped above your body for further movement would be a better use of your time in an initial hide site than reapplying face camo as he does here.
Cannot say, that any of this is impressive. Observing what "Government" has done, and find it to be deleterious. Truth hidden at every turn, by "Government". Who is the Governor of this World?? Do you really believe, that any Man is Fit to Rule any other Man?? Or Human to rule Humanity?? Would you forcibly rob your neighbor, to pay for things you want?? Then why in the World, do you find it acceptable to "Vote" for someone else to do this?? That is exactly what you do, everytime you "Vote" for "Government".
Former midrange “drone” operator here. I don’t ever remember a time where I followed a target at night in inclement weather. To me, that’s the best time to do operations. Not to say that larger platform’s with multi million dollar payloads couldn’t find you but hey, everyone has a budget.
First of all, lower your voice….
@@ElimGarakSpoonHead sure thing captain
Lol this section is great 😂 (it's beautiful to see someone agree in a way that says Fuhh U)
Rig for red, rig for quiet…..
@@Jamesglover71 100%
We did SERE training in the late 80s into the mid 90's but we didn't have drones back then. What a game changer. Absolutely terrifying.
We haven't even seen swarm strikes in warfare yet it really is terrifying
Another thing is most NATO countries will use their assets not for engagement but to drive the prey to the hunters. It may even flip back and forth between air or ground assets to flush out the target. Same with Western artillery, it will often drive you into a blocking force.
The thing about drones is a drone only has to get lucky once....drone swarms are coming soon and they can be on station 24/7....you would need to eat/sht and sleep while evading drone after drone day after day.
@@brokeandtired it really is terrifying it allows a possibility of eradication tactics that Ghengis Khan could have only dreamed of. I hope it's seen as nuclear weapons that becomes globally regulated. But then you have to worry about a global monopoly of use. Self replicating rouge swarms. I think it makes the possibility of EMP strike that much more likely. It really is a wild time!
@@brokeandtiredMillions of them.
It AMAZES me you tube actually pushes these videos out. I hope yall realize how lucky we are to have this info at our fingertips. This is a lifetime of a training and experience we get while laying in bed. Man this is good stuff. Keep it up dude
Speak for yourself. I'm on the toilet at work
it's a bunch of LARPing. NONE of the people in this video have any legitimate training nor combat experience evading thermal drones. The US military has literally never faced this threat and is completely delusional about it, and drones in general
Na its just common sense, break body contact with ambient temperature fabric/foliage/terrain and flank the flank (j-hook). Imagine not having drones with 40 feet of uhmwpe 300 lb test fishing line trailing behind them to trade pennies on the dollar with "superior" technology.
Knowledge is one thing…… getting out and practicing to gain first hand experiences is what makes the difference. I can almost guarantee 98% watching won’t.
@@EeZ3-808 You know, this would make a great airsoft event. Humans v humans with drones above.
Also good at masking your heat signature is a thermal blanket you get in first aid kits. It could even be stitched or glued to a bash or tarp.
Build a thermal evasion suit: ua-cam.com/video/rW0upku1HIQ/v-deo.html
Are they not silver and shiny ya good fkin luck with that, dumbest thing I read this week, he literally said afghanis outsmarted the US drones with nothing but a wool blanket, which can be made into a camo pattern
My dad passed away recently he is from Idaho unfortunately I’ve been gone being In the military, we used to bond over your videos and just wanted to say thanks Mike for keeping me sane and having something every Sunday to watch and enjoy and close to home.
Sorry to hear that brother.
I lost my mother recently its something you can never prepare for.
Jesus Christ helped me through it, you're in my prayers much love brother.
@@I-am-Veritas thank you! 🙏🏽
Prayers brother. Keep your head up. He's watching with you still.
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Prayers to you sir. It's been almost 2 years since I lost my dad to super cancer from the 💉 and it's hard, especially at first. Keep your head up and remember him fondly. Every day I think about him and what he would want for me and my family.
I'm a software engineer with EchoMAV. Thanks for inviting our guys out to film this!
Hey yall have UA-cam’s ??? 😂
Do you guys fuck with InSAR at all or nah?
Anyone who can " listen for body oder, gasoline or gun oil" , is extremely tuned in ! ;-)
Do technologies like this use mainstream programming languages like Java or C/C++ or is it more secure to use something less common?
@@AFriendOfYours0most are using ots flight controllers except the military grade which have a couple proprietary fc systems. The software is written in various programming languages and the the fc itself can parse scripting languages like Lua, Java, and python. Some use an R-pi for onboard external processing as well. They're using primarily arm based processors. Some are running 8bit systems and some 32 and 64 bit.
Them: "Can't beat them drones."
Garand Thumb: "Hold my FLIR."
Afraid to succeed…
Failure is much easier.
Give-up-itis is real shit.
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Btw, that pun was tier one dad joke.
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I've been watching a lot of battle footage from the war in Ukraine for the last two years. FPV drones and bo mber drones are going to be the biggest threat on the modern battlefield. They're scary as hell. Russia has taken hundreds of thousands of cas ualties.
Some tips: Spread out. The more people within expl osion radius of you makes you that more attractive of a target. Also, traveling through dense brush, while much harder, may make it harder to get you with an fpv drone, though you'll probably be at more of a disadvantage against a bom ber. Bonus if you can move through without leaving much of a trail. If you build and underground hideout, make an entrance tunnel with a sharp bend in it so the drone can't fly straight in and det onate.
Note: I'm no expert and don't pretend to be. These are just observations. Take with a grain of salt.
@@GUNNER67akaKelt my observations for a civilian vs hostile military would be to have beforehand dug a burrowing hole 2m deep, with two exits. it doesnt need to be a shooting foxhole. preferably both exits would be covered by a cloth/tarp of some sort, spruce/fir/pine branches can suffice in a pinch. if you hear a drone overhead or see your friends getting blown to bits all of a sudden - leg it to the hole and take cover there. catch your breath/drink some water and then exfiltrate from there in smaller numbers at a time.
basically, make the enemy use very expensive weapons against a few guys at a time
The threat of FPV drones is now probably the greatest it's ever been and the least discussed. A good pilot can penetrate through thick cover (or just bypass it altogether) and dive bomb on a target from above the tree canopy. With an explosive payload that covers a wider area, there isn't much need for accuracy on that final moment where I commit to a suicide dive into the bushes/rocks/cave etc. Would love to see more scenarios with FPV drones piloted by competent operators. Thank you for a very thought-provoking video demonstration!
Seeing Garandthumb go from teaching military to civilians is one of the greatest things I’ve seen. Thank you for all that you do! God bless!
Amen to that!
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You say that like it’s a bad thing….
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@@newFaction64 so would you rather no information at all or just complain about the skills he’s teaching you. Your mentality kills… literally.
Just Grand Thumb casually teaching us how conduct a insurgency
for the sake of content
In Minecraft of course
in minecraft
In the video game Minecraft that’s been modded.
In arma 3 ofc
“If they have a hellfire, you’ll be evaporated. That’s life.” Lmao good point
It was life anyway 😂😂
lol they would need millions of hellfire 🔥
At least it's quick, probably wouldn't even realize, I'd imagine the last thing you'd hear was some sort of odd whooshing sound, but you'd be shaking hands with saint Peter before you even registered what it was. Fast as a bolt of lightning.
@@samaelsandalphon5600you wouldn’t hear anything dude. At least not after the detonation, the supersonic shock wave travels at about Mach 8 meaning your brain wouldn’t even have time to process a single thing after the detonation. And yeah it would be quick and painless as you would be turned into a vapor in milliseconds
@@adawg3032 I mean you might be able to hear it flying right before it detonates, for maybe a fraction of a second, then again, they can airburst those things too, so maybe not.
"Be as good as a soldier, be as practiced as them in fact be better than them; because one day your family might rely on you." Excellent advice that I needed to hear. At 31 and bearing regrets for never having enlisted, if I can't be a veteran I can be the best civilian I can be.
You can still enlist
You're not too old to enlist sir
Hi partner, I enlisted at 32. There's still time. 👍
When i was in the army there were guys signing up that were in there 30's u can still enlist
You can still enlist, but we all know you won't.
And your idea of what being a good civilian is is kinda weird and fcked up, there are real problems that you can fix, but not if you're in the woods playing pew pew games and pretending to be hunted.
First, nothing but respect for Mike for bringing this content to us. I just need to say though, the most important things Mike said, were the things he barely touched on: 1. Get rid of, or find a way to truly shut off, your electronics. Remember, Off buttons are not off buttons. 2. Do not transmit any signals unless it is your last resort. 3. These small drones they were using may only have IR cameras, but your bigger group 4/5 aircraft have a lot more. I can't go into all of it, but I can say that you better stick to the trees at all times. That may not save you, but it will give you a better chance. 4. Finally, try not to put yourself high enough on the hitlist to warrant being hunted by drones as a guerilla warfare operative. If you do, you better be training your replacement as well.
Just use a counter UAV :) or an EMP bomb
So, treat it like it's a dragon.
@@GameplayRunner Literally even the watches they give soldiers are EMP hardened. Many of the larger (although still man portable: I'm not talking about Global Hawk even) are literally hardened to survive lighting strikes, which is also easier and cheaper than you would think.
You might not be able to talk about it but I can. SAR and AMMOR is pretty tricky to deal with.
thanks slime guy
Imagine a series where you do a simulated evasion event where Mike carries a GoPro and everything is stitched together like this. Would be an amazing series.
The Grunt Proof SERE Challenge.
There was a series on discovery back in the day, where an American ex military (forget what branch or unit) would travel around the world and challenge military trackers, border guards and police forces to try catch him. Seemed like the coolest game of hide and seek.
I'd watch it
Special Ops Misson with Wil Willis.
@@kilosierra1.665 I miss that show, it was actually pretty good. This guy here can do a show like that again.
When I was in Afghanistan I watched on ISR feed an insurgent hide in a tiny bush for over 48 hours. You couldn't see his heat signature in the bush but we tracked him to the bush and he didn't leave for 48 hours. We eventually sent a team to the bush to apprehend him. We also had a COP infiltrated by 6 insurgents who lowcrawled warring wet blankets. The wet blankets masked thier thermal images from the RAID camera. Once they entered the COP and shot a few soldiers they were traped. They had no ware to run to and no ware to hide they were all killed. I also for my own curiosity tested thermal blankets to see if they could mask my heat signature. They mask my heat signature of a human body shape with that of a heat signature in the shape of a big solid rectangle without uneven heating. Not to many rectangles in nature. My suggestion if you are going to use a mylar blanket to mask your heat signature is to cut it into an irragular shape to try and break up unnatral lines. I would also use it in addition with a ghillie cape or blanket to create unequil heating so your not one solid temprature signature.
so there was a spider hole to a secret bunker under that bush
Dont drones have double vision cam? I am pretty sure that heat blanked would stand out in normal vision.
@@romualdaskuzborskis that's why you operate at night and use it in conjunction with a ghillie blanket or cape.
@@CurtisClinton77 dude was just hanging out in a bush, no hidy holes.
@@southwestoklahomaairsoftcl9889 that is a sound plan, as long as you have luxury of operating only at night. When drone is up usually that means its not you who picked the time of engagement.
I’m a 64 yr old civilian. I have hunted all my life. Spot & stalk. Love camping, fishing & hiking. This vid taught me a lot regarding evading a drone. My first thought as you were evading the “soldiers” looking for you was why didn’t you set any booby traps of any kind? For example the type used by the VC? Punji sticks, that type thing. I would thing that if I were in that situation I’d carry thinks I could use to quickly set something up if I had some distance between me and my followers. Just a thought. I realize I would need to be careful where I set a trap as if the drone sees me doing it I’ve wasted my time
CARPET SHOES! Take shag carpet. Turn it upside DOWN. Make a pair tying it over your boots with 5050 cord as laces. Sew the heel so that it cups your heel. I am a master professional tracker and this makes it much much more difficult to follow your tracks. Before using them wear them in the field to knock off the loose bits. These hold up very well for a few days. Google carpet shoes border. This will give you an idea of how they look.
thanks
Huh, that's like something used by tribe enforcers, feather anklets, so you can't track back to who did the punishment.
Even if you have a fair idea you can't know for sure.
cartel mules been doing this for years.
A master professional tracker? How did you acquire that title good sir
@RockyMountainWest13 the info is the point. Again Forrest for the trees
I like how the thermal camera doesn't pick up Micha, the invisible cameraman outsmarts thermal drones!
Edit: I’ve never had likes on a comment, I’m blown away, thank you guys for that. Also yes I’m well aware it was b-roll footage but stated what we all wanted it to really be instead. 🙂
Hmmm or maybe that was Micah! Idk, that is a little odd though
“B-roll” footage exists guys, haven’t seen that part yet but it very well could be that.
Micha is cold blooded, no thermal signature.
wait i just saw that, at 8:05
kinda weird I agree, maybe it was just reshot or edited in post to focus on Mike?
Nah I definitely know for a fact now, that was B-roll. They had Mike run the same line without micha there for the thermal. Not that hard to deduce. 😂😂😂
Mike mentioned something on another SERE video that no matter what you have for concealment, how you travel, when or where, if the pursuers have well trained dogs, it’s game over. Impactful statement.
Refer to the "Cool Hand Luke" training syllabus
no it's not
Thats when you do a J hook maneuver and do an ambush
Or a reverse J hook get to the cement city
This is why we need War Chimps
This is awesome. I’ve now seen two pov’s. Being hunted and hunting with modern equipment. You guys are a wealth of knowledge and we appreciate you sharing.
This video is great, it covers all the main points really well. One small thing I would add is to mind your shadow, especially in the morning and evening, basically any time the sun isn’t directly overhead. There have been times where I could not see the target I was looking for directly due to top cover, but was able to spot their shadow peeking out. Laying down makes it hard to discern the difference between you and the ground or foliage, but if you’re sitting up or standing it’s pretty easy to tell. If you’ve been sitting in the same spot for a while, your shadow will also make a temperature difference on the ground, so it’s visible in IR as well. Also, when you’re hiding under a rock or bushes or anything close to the ground, try not to disturb or dig up the ground outside of the cover. The ground underneath the top layer of soil is a lot cooler, and is surprisingly visible in IR for a decent amount of time.
sweet. sounds about as bad as the future war from terminator. HKs trying to kill everyone.
You’re on my team!
How about emergency space blankets? Making make do liners under your clothes with them, would that work ya think?
@@GrumpyGenXGrampsThat would suck running around in the woods wearing thermal mylar blankets. You would overheat. It would probably be better to make some type of through blanket to cover your whole body when in a halt.
They focused heavily on thermal, but most of these gov. drones have day camera and thermal and they will switch back and forth between them for better situational awareness. So just because you are hidden from the thermal I.E the water, doesn't mean you are hidden from the day camera.
They do have cloaks now. I'm pretty sure they work pretty good too.
The point is: hide from the full spectrum.
Remember this is to increase your chances of survivability. If you have a shitty hand of cards then there comes a point to accept and embrace defeat and even death. That's why,you have to live your fullest life happy with no regrets.
I'll bet by the time we have a conflict they'll have A.I. processing the images looking for humans automatically on top of that, if they don't already.
hiding from visual scan isn't a new skill that needs a special video
Not going to lie, as a combat marine that served in iraq, almost 20 years ago, this new stuff scares me. Most of my training was CQB, kicking in those doors. I did do some moutain training in the marine corps moutain training area, bridgeport CA but nothing like this. Im picking up what your putting down. These becoming deadly videos are fucking outstanding. Please keep these comeing. The information is highly likely to save someones life.
Semper Fi
Yea, I don't feel much better knowing that our way of sleeping is hot tents lmao. And being from Finland you kinda have to have heated tents during the winter, meanwhile being out in the forest and not being able to go into a bunker. I wanna know how are planning to counter drones..
@@TheLazyFinn You can't. You just have to build more drones than the enemy that's basicaly what is happening in Ukraine.
@@WetaMantis Hopefully soon you can, you can't work without sleep!
@@TheLazyFinn You can't counter drones at the moment.
@@WetaMantis Not perfectly I guess, but I would say that in the next 10 years it'll be a whole different playing field
Well who would of thought when you released this video 4 months ago, we would have drones invading our airspace all over our coastlines.
The drone sound is the scariest sound on earth when you don’t want to hear it. Been there. Such an unfair thing to evade but it’s absolutely doable with all these tips what an excellent video as always.
Yes. This video is gold right now.
I would also recommend following S2 Underground for more content like this. As a former US Army Intelligence Specialist his video on drone evasion is top notch. His daily Intel briefings (the wire) are also a great way to get a snap shot of current domestic and international events.
Not prior military, I find his information so valuable it's incredible it's free. Highly recommend as well
I second this.
As someone in the political realm, if you are a real patriot, you are probably going to need this info at some point.
@@improvingamericashomes6530 I feel that more today, but it could be recency bias. Authoritarian and tyrannical governments are rising all over the world, and they take many shapes. Political spectrum is thrown out the window, in these cases, and I am adamant that the US is knocking on the door of tyranny as well. There have been hints for a long time; both left and right-wing mandates have passed new and more mass surveillance technologies, and it is blindness to look down on Russian and Chinese dictatorships when it is happening in our homeland.
Be careful out there, lads. If shit hits the fan (I believe it won't, but just in case), may you succeed. Do it for the people, always the people, never corporations or world leaders. We are all in the same boat.
Guys like S2 Underground will keep you alive if the worst ends up happening.
how to avoid thermal? be cool
Nop be ambiant
Nearly Impossible
@@ArpanDe not if you ded
Capes and suits also in can help a little
@@golandanan fair enough
Hilarious! The bright American flag on his chest like a target made me lol. 🤣
Finally! A new video in the Evasion/Becoming Deadly series.
These videos are the best of the channel. Keep them coming!
Nice
If your watching this odds are you were already on a "list." 😂
@@robh2907 I've probably been on a list for a decade
@@nextcaesargaming5469 im only 14 and im probably on numerous lists...
@@austrailianpainter Based, keep that score going higher!
SERE Instructor for 8 years. I love this and how you teach it. Premium content and instruction here.
I'm so glad he was not with us in Ukraine as in his first opening act in this video he shoots an unarmed combatant. There is a big difference between UA-cam and real life.
@@HarrisburgShoppingyou have room temp iq
@@yamaha450man yes after being in Syria Bosnia Iraq and Ukraine I definitely have a low IQ. There have been a lot of bangs and booms in my life. However that does not change the statement I made
@@HarrisburgShopping Except the fictional dude had a firearm on his chest if your eyes worked, and the rules state that if they had walked past, then they would need to give medical care, as they had decided the wounded guy was not a threat. People have faked being injured before so the enemy gets closer, allowing for an easier shot on someone who doesn't expect it.
Also, going to places with a lot of warfare does not necessarily make you intelligent.
Also also, civilians are neither beholden to nor protected by any of the rules of warfare, and insurgents and spies are on the list of people you can remove from the equation without repercussions.
@@isaiahmiller9142 that's so cool that you guys get to sit here and watch videos about the wars that we actually fight. Keep going GI Joe
Multiple points: 1. I've heard of camera detectors like the ones sold to find voyeur hotel room camers being useful to detect high altitude drone presence. 2. Take a meat thermometer and tape it to a camo light blanket. Then, pick an evasion route along any stream or creek shore. Dunk the blanket in the stream and put it back over yourself. When you see the meat thermometer rise above the ground temperature, stop and re-wet your blanket.
You would be hiding from the drone, to an extent, but you would be much easier to track with conventional methods. The camera detector tip could be useful though.
reverse survival blanket!
Russian Spetsnaz have been wearing a cloak/poncho that greatly reduces their heat signature and makes it considerably more difficult to see them from the drones we've been seeing for the past few years. I'm not clear as to what additional tech they're using along with this in the form of detection, but they're certainly far more hidden from the sky than the average poor fool in the Russian military we're seeing on drone feeds every other hour on reddit.
what if the drone has a visual light camera ahaha
@@robinhigh8324 they still emit infrared
Note on the water 'rationing'.
There is 1 thing that helps significantly in retaining more water and that is breathe through your nose, both in and out if the situation (physical exertion) allows it.
Very true, also not yapping helps but try telling my wife that
100% and training at the limit of barely being able to keep up respiration by breathing through your nose is great cardio training for hiking, rucking and jogging. I've also seen some studies that say that staying at that level of exertion is where your body uses fat most efficiently as a caloric resource so you can drop body fat in training and pack more efficient food sources in operation.
I wear a stillsuit
@@sterlingreece9355 same.
Also...little known fact...If you turn 68 degrees when you need to fart, it'll save calories, and reduce your heat signature. Also will give you winning lottery numbers.
Ive been patiently waiting for another becoming deadly in the mountains video and im so glad we’re getting them again. I would consume this type of content every week without fail. I enjoy the other stuff but this is absolutely the pinnacle of your channel
What isn't addressed.Know your area. Drainage pipes, tucked up under a bridge . Caves. Or dgging a hole. A lest a dirt covered nitch. Under water is great if you got. That isn't frozen, or has gators. Unused large enough vehicles. Then there's diverting attention. By creating false heat signature. Anything from a candle, campfire, to setting the woods ablaze.
TWO HUGE THINGS NOT MENTIONED THAT MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE AS AN OPERATOR. Two amazing tactics I learned from the Taliban. I was stationed in Afghanistan in late stage doing ISR and learned 2 amazing tactics that can be imployed in Gorilla Warfare. 1. Planning attacts around events. It was common that the Taliban would plan attacks around religous hours and weddings, allowing them to strike targets, and immediately run into Mosques or crowds during prayer time. They would fade in with the crowd and leave with the crowd. Id tract them into these events after they striked, know they were the target, HOWEVER, thermal does not allow for easy identification. Wed only be able to tract based on thermal outline, size, and GAIT (the way you walk). The way you walk is so important. Typically leaving the events they would not split up, and walk out together with the same gait allowing me to still tract them. HOWEVER, even so, there was no definitive way to positively identify them as the target so authorization to strike would not be given. 2. Planning attacks around inclimiate weather. The taliban would only attack during bad weather or what we call RED air. This means the weather is to volitile to fly in. If there is bad weather, air assests like winged aircraft (F15 Strike Eagle ect) and smaller drones will be grounded. Fixed wings cant fly because the planes will literally ice over from the moisture and cold at high altitudes. This means during inclimate weather you can move freely. Typically the Taliban would only attack on these days, when wed have our guard down because of the bad weather, they were using it to their advantage to suprise and evade undetected. THESE 2 TACTICS ALLOWED THEM TO STAY IN THE FIGHT UNTIL WE WITHDREW FROM AFGHANISTAN. We need to learn from and replicate our enemies tactics because they work.
Really solid info! Thanks a bunch!
gorilla warfare
RED AIR I like that phrase describes it well. Way back in the day, messenger pigeons and riders could not just be sent out because of bad weather or would take longer to reach their destinations. Having a birds eye view from tall trees or a mountain was useless in bad weather. Bad weather defeated Alexander the Great. Some things about the art of war never change weather gage being one of them. We Europeans definitely used these guerilla tactics in the past, took Rome a long time to concur us because of it.
"Gorilla" Warfare tactic #1: Use innocent bystanders as cover to exploit the enemies goodwill.
gorilla warfare 🦍
Mike, At 70 and being a little beat up, I am pretty sure I won't be doing any drone evasion, but I found this video extremely educational. I was fascinated and I learned a lot from it. Thank you.
I trust the younger warriors are paying attention and learning. Like you, I won’t likely be rucking or patrolling anything but my neighborhood or Alamo. I will contribute anything I can until the end…
@@jonathankenton7182 share your stockpiles of bang bang lol
I was just the Guinea Pig for my local Town PD testing their Individual FLIR/Thermal Handhelds in a woodland/urban environment. Very interesting results, turns out old knowledge from the late 90s SERE school can hide you super good enough. Now if OpFor has it on a Helo and can bring a lot of personnel to a specific point and saturate an area in a short amount of time you need to either get rid of the observing device or become invisible quick. But having said that, the better you know your AO the better your chances are of evading.
There's my two cents, you're welcome Internet
RLTW
You’d be surprised how many bad guys get away from us even with thermal in the air. We almost never get it up in time
Facts
@Shooter_ready556 A couple weeks back we had a methed out dude strip down and cover himself in mud like in predator. They watched him on the drone as he did it, and he ended up getting away!
He got caught a bit later when he popped back up walking down the road covered in mud, but he did evade 3 drones and 2 dogs.
Thanks!
My biggest takeaway. Every time a deer or elk evaded you it was a learning experience. They know all the tricks. Elk and occasionally deer are very skilled at using the J-hook.
So... _embrace the furry life?_
@@AmbuBadger no
@@AmbuBadger Not only no, but fu©️k no
You should see them use the G hook!!😂
@@crohkorthreetoes3821 we all animals. Point is survival..
I love this series
Other things I learned from this video.
15:43 Your camoflage paint kits mirror really shines, just before you make a point of hiding your shiny watch.
20:02 Rubbing your nose is bad for your face camo.
To be fair, I don’t think the plan is to walk around with the camo paint kit out and open for more than maybe a minute at a time and I wouldn’t think you’d be reapplying if you’re under immediate danger
I loved when he literally shone the mirror through the tree canopy 😂😂
He's addressing the people watching so he is likely putting more focus on staying animated for the camera then he is evading at that moment. If I had the mirror out I'd probably lay on my back to point it at the ground, and he probably would too if in actual danger. As for the nose touching, that is just going to happen sometimes. You're sweaty as fuck, got a bunch of crap on your face, and are stressed out. You subconsciously touch your face all the time without knowing. That's a big reason people prefer face coverings I think. What do I know though, I am just a guy trying to apply common sense to a situation.
Most modern ISR platforms also have integrated EW sensors. So yes, I cannot stress the importance of killing any type of device that can intercept/transmit any type of radio signal.
The example drone they used can operate at 12,000 feet.
I'm sure that service altitude is intentional as small arms can't reach above 10,000 feet.
@@sprky777 Speak for yourself. We have a Barrett.
@@oldscratch3535 oh yeah bro perfectly aim said barrett to hit a man portable drone. GL, and NGMI.
@@Garf1eldFanat1c I'm a great shot.
@@oldscratch3535 yeah bro i don't doubt, but you are not hitting a recon drone at 12,000ft alt
In Manitoba Canada the provincial government hired private security to monitor us and make sure we abided by the lockdowns. Drones were used in rural hamlet communities. The drones would hover over year just out of reach until you left your yard and went back inside. Happened to my wife twice while she was working in the garden.
I've been saying it for years, learn to hunt. It really really really teaches you 90% of these skills. If you're reading this, you're of the mindset that I'm talking to. GO HUNT. There's infinite reasons to do it, if you needed that last push, this is it. Go hunt. Get out there and fucking do it. You'll see how little you know, you'll see how ill prepared you are, you'll see everything. Get out there, hunt.
Been hunting, fishing, scouting, & trapping ever since I was old enough to. 62 now and I still like to practice being hard to track. I got to hang out with a government trapper as I was growing up. Dude could track a coyote across bedrock (slight exaggerating).
Correct, in my area the deer know me and don't run. But hunting will hone the stealth aspect.
Please don’t there’s already enough dudes in the mountains as it is
Too late, I have tons of property.@@RockyMountainWest13
Totally agree on going hunting. Camping.
If you're new to camping and hunting start one or two days at a time. A weekend. Later on, go longer.
As you wrote, "you'll see how little you know, you'll see how ill prepared you are, you'll see everything."
Best advice ever for hunting, camping, or in worst case scenario survival if shtf.
As an avid outdoors man and hunter, Thank you for putting it into what's so precisely worded.
All the best.
"Why is this information necessary?" Asked the guy who was in a coma last few years
I'm consistently amazed by the people who ask "why do you NEED to know this" about all sorts of things. What happened to human curiosity and the desire to learn?
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 people fear they're taken as some sort of "nefarious weirdo" by their peers if they inform themselves about these things. And some fear the conclusions behind the idea that they themselves might be responsible for their own safety and the safety of those who they supposedly love. They cannot pretend the world is fine and alright if needing to do these things might become a possibility. So they hide their own insecurity and fear behind an aura of smugness.
I had a friend over and I was talking with my brother about being prepared and all, and the friend said in a smug ironic voice "Wait you guys are prepping?" and we both responded shocked "You don't?" That "friend" didn't like that one bit and became really infuriated about how ridiculous we were and that all our "fantasies" won't come true and that everything is fine.
Man he got of like a bottle rocket, over us simply saying that we prep for different things.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252fluoride in our water 😂
It’s even more absurd if you saw Russian rockets being fired at our ally and having Belarusian helicopters violating our airspace. UA-cam is not only for the US 😅
Drones are ruling the Wars now and idk SKYNET might be a real thing😅😅
These "how to survive" videos are fantastic for us civilians looking to better our ability to respond to the seemingly ever increasing reality that this might become.
Great vid series, Mike.
yea, if trumps plan comes to fruition, then a dictatorship is in effect, hes already said that no one will need to vote in 4 years, he'll have fixed it........
This shit wont teach you nothing... you can be the best soldier of this fkn planet.. a reallife big boss. You wont escape any drone, if a drones has set you as a target you are dead.
Cardio cardio cardio. 40% of americans are obese and do not need to watch videos like these.
best anti thermal gear is pro apto camoflauge
😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
Thank you Mr. Thumb. It’s hard to blame people for thinking this seems a little crazy but that perception is a weapon that some would use against us. It’s crazy. Right up until it happens
Love this series. Would love to see this in a series where it’s you vs an actual group in a competition. Could be each video is a different environment and see whether or not you survive. Could even throw in a prize to the winner at the end of that series.
I think a competition, with set rules and structure, would give a false impression of the difficulty of SERE in action. Every real situation is going to be different, with each survivor having varied levels of gear, varied levels of head start vs their pursuers, in varied environments, and with very different concerns depending on the enemy's capabilities and all the other factors.
8:14
The production quality here is exceptional. I love the fact that the stitched ISR drone footage omits Micah, meaning that y'all had to film a sequence where only Mike was running with the drone overhead.
I don't think people understand how much work goes into just filming something that way, let alone where your primary segments are built around the information being disseminated. I appreciate every bit of what y'all do.
Can't wait for the videos where you show us how to drive some of these military vehicles or steal/fly/land a helo 🤣😂
Over 4, 8 hr days of filming went into this not including the editing.
@@micahmayfieldyou’re a fuckin beast, Micah
You're assuming Micah has a heat signature.
@@jacobfuhrer micah is the fpv drone
@@micahmayfieldit’s not you mag dumping into trash, buts still solid content. Micah we need answers on the last part of his content. Teach us how to strategically relocate a helo. 🤣
Reading the description for these drones on websites where they are available for purchase, it seems like the best way to evade drones is to do your business on days that are either windy or moderately rainy or worse, or both
My thermal scope still picks up animals in any weather.
@@floorman92 Does your thermal scope fly in windy weather?
Think you’ll always have the luxury of bad weather?@@ivan____________________973
@@ivan____________________973 do you think we will always have the luxury of windy weather?
@@floorman92 its the flying part that doesnt work well in the rain. plus, with a downward looking lens, the water droplets will hang right in the way of the lens anyway
School lunch is a Dept of Defense program. Kids walk around a track and talk for PE now. Etc etc. Think about that. Ya…we need this training.
I teach sUAS design and have numerous Radiometric and other sensor certs. IMHO small unmanned vehicles have fundamentally changed the way we can now employ infantry or armor on the battle filed. The first time( and this was before the laws changed about 8 years ago) I flew a fixed wing seven miles away and dropped eggs on my mother in laws car as it sat in her driveway I knew we were in for something big. That was 6 miles BLOS with a foam core fixed wing PNP platform running a $75 dollar flight controller, a $200 1.2 ghz video link and a sub hundred dollar 433mhz control link carrying around 1.5lbs of eggs. The maximum range on that setup was a little under 12 miles with a good helical on the GCS. All that capability with off the shelf mid range kit.
I don't think many folks realize how frightening the implications of this readily available technology is.
A piece of advice about electronics, particularly smartphones is turn them off even in a Faraday pouch. Once they lose all radio and GPS connectivity, they turn their radios up to full power to try and reestablish a link. This kills batteries super fast. If you think you might need that phone later, turn it off or it will be dead when you pull it out of the Faraday pouch.
Airplane mode does this
@@MB-jg4tr Correct. I guess it's going to depend on your needs. I'd shut off just to maximize battery savings.
Just wanted everyone to be aware of the behavior of their device.
You shouldn't have a phone with you
@@airmanfpv964 Why not? I mean, if you're in an actual combat unit, maybe leave it behind. But that's not the scenario in this video. I'm letting people know how their devices work, do with that what you will.
@airmanfpv964 somebody not carrying a phone in the modern world can also cause suspicion.
Carry a bamboo straw with you incase you have to hide in a pond or stream. Matt Axelson, during SEAL training, specifically SERE hid in a pond. I can’t remember how many hours it took but he finally moved out from the pond and turned himself in to continue the course.
He learned the from a disney movie.
Wouldn't you eventually freeze to death?
@@seeker296 only if it's cold
Cartoonish scenario
Hahahaha top tier military advice.
The thermal blankets that are in first aid kits are a decent thermal countermeasure provided the aluminum coated side is out. Optical not so much 😢
A snorkel in your kit might be an awesome addition even if it was just a length of pipe or an old piece of hose if you are in an area with water you know you can get into.
Snork will work but the hose won't I use to try it as a kid
I’ve got water- lots of water…. But it’s 40F on a warm day
Love the info, still waiting for the Tax Evasion video to come out though
I'm waiting for the fent distribution vid though
@@iamtherealrauschguy yeah lol
Peter Schiff’s dad tried that and was killed for it
Hear hear 😂
Tax man will catch you faster than a thermal drone.
20:02 rubbing that camo off the nose
talking about footsteps and concealability, I am pretty keen at tracking through Oregon brush. Real thick stuff in the mountains. Got grasses, rhodies, vine maple, berry bushes, large and medium sized trees. Elevation change can be relatively dramatic in some of my areas.
Can usually tell what type of game trail I'm on based on the width, height of broken branches or other 'spoor'. Deer, elk break branches at head height and occasionally scrape trees. Coyote, cougar walk lightly and are narrow. Coyotes sleep out in the open. Bears leave wide trails and are heavy. They also tear the hell out of the ground, sometimes looks like bark dust. Coyotes and cougars use bear trails sometimes, where rabbits, quail and berries can often also be found.
you pretty quickly can pick up on direction of movement, if you are leaving a physical path, make it confusing to follow. Green stuff in the open bends a certain way, even if it springs back up, it may develop a crease. Sometimes I shuffle through in those scenarios, without really 'scraping' my feet. As opposed to a crease you leave a smoother path. Sometimes you bend that grass backwards. Try different things, take advantage of what's around.
People are at a slight disadvantage being bipedal. Don't be afraid to get in that underbrush and bear crawl. It is difficult to actively track in a thicket. A good hunter may not track you through it, but rather meet you on the other side- or burn you out of it.
Get out there and play around. Black bear season. :)
Ugh, the poison oak is what will take me out. I'm super allergic.
How do you deal with poison ivy and poison oak
Master communicator..Thanks for your Service n Welcome Home n for sharing,Teaching us some combat skills
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@@ArpanDe At least you're accepting she's gonna win already 💙
Ive been waiting for this since the start of the becoming deadly in the mountains series! Thank you flannel father!
In the first 20 seconds: Damn, this video goes hard!
But I'm harder
Took a hard left on that comment my dude. @arpande
Right. I said "holy shit" out loud when I saw that headshot.
@@ArpanDe edging rn
Right, conspicuous flag on the enemy combatant uniform too. Guess that's just where we're at.
Outstanding instruction as always Mike!
That was the sickest intro I've ever seen. If you ever make a full movie it would likely be one of the most watched military movies ever seen. Love the content!
he would play a great solid snake, Metal Gear Solid...
@frankg323 Absolutely Sold! Incorporate the evasion techniques. I watch Bad Lands on Netflix last night and the beginning and end is alright but throughout the middle. None of the movement makes sense. You got the dude walking in the wide f@#king open talking on coms, in the most hostile territory you can be, like he wasn't just almost blown up. Rambo filmed in 82 and 85 made more sense then that.
That intro was hard!
Judging by how the Pepperbox boys are talking and Admin’s personal aspirations, something like that is probably already in the works
Drones are terrifying not only can the hunt you in thermal but it only a matter of time before thermal gets cheap enough to be put on a disposable explosive drone thanks for the video Mike
You can buy thermal guns for less than 200 now, not hard to see modules grafted to drones at that price.
@@warrenharrison9490thermal guns? We are talking optics, which gun with thermal comes in under 200 lol
@@JeronimoStilton14foxeer has a sub-$1000 thermal camera currently used on night kamikaze quadcopters by both sides in Ukraine.
The future is robots killing people in their sleep.
Thermal guns are for reading the heat off of whatever you point it at thermal optics are a different story you can get
one for around $4000-$5000
Already seeing thermal FPVs, recon drones, and Lancet-type kamikazes in Ukraine.
Man the m81 woodland will never go out of style.
💯 Agree
I was just out in the mountains by idaho city yesterday testing out my kit. If you don't often spend time walking through nature, you should. There's a huge difference between hiking on a trail and being in the middle of the woods.
Moving through nature without making too much noise is an art
Edit: I'm not saying I'm good at it yet, just that I'm aware it's a skill that needs to be developed
Infantry for 20 years. I can move silently through the woods... Right up until my smokers cough and farts give me away. Even if you think you're moving quietly, the animals moving away from you aren't. Quit pretending you're stealthy.
@@mattmarzulaok boomer
@@JohnMurseMaybe you should get in the woods and just sit still and listen. Then shift your weight and listen and watch what happens.
Just be aware of bears, and mountain lions.
I got kicked out of the mall doing this.
Commercial UAS pilot in the UK here. I had an interesting conversation with an SAS commander a while back about defeating modern drone strikes. It was a really tricky problem to solve but basically came down to "Anything semi-auto in it's flight control and long range, we can pretty easily defeat once we know where it is.However, anything with manual controls and significantly high thrust-to-weight, we have a lot less useful tools to work with."
That tracks as a lot of the showcased 'counter-UAS' technologies he talked me through (without much detail) are against semi-auto aircraft like single prop fixed wing or DJI drones. However, with skilled pilots and custom built FPV quads that can do 100+ mph and have a zero-to-max speed basically instantly (
These traitors are why we are in this position.
Yeah, the channel Civ Div has talked about similar stuff. They have to go full manual with their drones in Ukraine to defeat jamming.
@@Iceman259 Manual control won't defeat jamming at all. It just gives you magnitudes more agility than the likes of a DJI drone where it flies itself and you just to instruct to move forward/back/left/right/up/down. What evades EM jamming/directed RF is having drones that can fail-over to their own autopilot and fly themselves once they lose receiver connection. At the minute this is usable for fixed targets- In a similar way to striking a building or immobile armour peice. The terrifying advancement would be AI based autopilot where it can be instructed to seek out a humanoid target in a geofenced area. Because once we have that active in the field, an enemy can deploy a thousand of them in a swarm working together to target and kill infantry at scale without having to put a soldier on the ground. That kind of tech is not even that far out, with a lot of R&D being done on working designs. Right now the problem is processing power when the chips are that small (little ARM processors at the minute) but I'm sure CN and the US won't have an issue putting in a custom order with Nvidia to get what's needed made.
@@_burdonce they lose rssi they'll fail over to stabilized mode and depending on the fc programming either loitering, return to launch, or rendezvous. Jamming the rc, gps and vid feed freqs should go a long way towards threat mitigation. The second piece should counter the optics, can't fly blind. Something VLF could be used to disrupt the mems gyros in the flight controller and that would take any rotary wing craft down. Fixed wing would still Glide but could be countered directly with an armed fixed wing craft flown by a competent operator if a spotter can assist with target acquisition.
@@Nylon_riot Calm down sweetheart. Drones can’t get you from your keyboard. I’m sure the people that brought manned aircraft to the first war theatre were traitors too 🙄
what an yt era when you get tutorial how to avoid military drones! amazing
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Tree lines are often close to the waters edge and a canteen getting tossed out on a string id a lot less noticable than a whole body. Just saying.
That opening scene and the juxtaposition of thinking you're top dog, looking at an ATAK to see you're being watched by an all-seeing eye, to immediately understand that you're just another cog in the military machine is amazing screenwriting!
Better writing than all of Hollywood from the last 10 years
The scary part for me was that the guy shot in the opening scene was wearing an american flag patch thats the brutal reality
@@kemsprite520BINGO!
@@kemsprite520Not scary at all... it's straight from the lips of Pythia, the High Priestess of The Temple of Apollo at Delphi...
@@kemsprite520 "which kind of mercian are you" to a whole new light ahha
All ”thermal camo” is based on the same principle: keep it away from your skin/clothing and it shows up as the ambient temperature. Insulation hides you, but obviously wearing a winter sleeping bag in arid summer environment isn’t the greatest experience 😅 Also, thermal doesn’t pierce glass or plastic, so there are scenarios where you can see a thermal drone but they can’t see you.
pro apto camoflauge aka anti thermal gear is ment to touch your skin
Interestingly, I saw in the video the drone could not see through decent tree canopy either.
Surely they won't see me walking around under my big glass dome 😂
Metal Gear Solid in real life mate. In Metal Gear Solid. Solid Snake hides his heat signature by hiding under a box
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes won't work in real life.
Working on my weight loss journey so I can get fit and get training. Thank you for helping to inspire me to do that. Thank you for the video! Great stuff as always.
You can do it!
If you have ADHD, Amphetamine helps.
Best thing I've ever done was detox heavy metals, this initiated the loss of 10lbs of inflammation in two weeks then another 20 in 6 months, only change in diet was more protein less grains and organic as possible, plus lots of water and supplemented minerals.
I don't know much about weight loss or your situation, but training is an excellent way of getting active and getting into shape, especially if you make a point of making your training as miserable as possible
of my 10 to 15 people i know who are into this stuff only three of them, my self included, are fit, i suspect most of them loose their breath just putting their pants on
To heck with being a pro with a firearm. I am going to become a pro with a camera & mic. The cameraman never dies and usually appears to be ignored. 👍
I was just hunting elk this past weekend. Bumped in to the elk we saw each other. Elk took off. I waited a bit, tok off made a hook around and cut their tracks. Tracked them up and they had pulled the 'j' hook and were waiting just like garand thumb demonstrated off to the side. I was tracking and sweeping like one would but they had me. Couldn't get a shot off by the time they rolled out. I have seen a weary bull elk pull j hooks and clover leafs or fig 8s. Learn from guys like this and wild animals.
seems like we just lowered the chances of being caught from 99.8 to 98.4
I mean, optimistically, it could be as low as 90%
War is not as dangerous as people think. 90% of the time you're just walking, and engagements typically happen from pretty large distances. As long as you paid attention in training and aren't downright stupid it's actually very probable that one can survive modern warfare. It's not like it was back in the day, where warfare was much more direct and you had to pray everyday to not get shot in the face
@@somethingjustgonewrongyeah9079this statement only applies to a war in which one side (e.g. the US) has overwhelming force, and that you’re on that side. In Ukraine, estimates are 350,000 Russian troops killed which is > 87% of the number that invaded.
Odds are you will die in a battle of equal force.
@@b8888whale how bout Ukraine's losses? Ya know, the one that isnt doing meat wave assaults? Also when the US invaded Iran, it was the most heavily defended airspace on the planet, and had the 3rd largest military while the US was 10th. Any thoughts? * Correction it was the invasion of Iraq not Iran*
@@UnyieldingMass they're definitely having lower losses but still, being in defensive positions under artillery barrages etc it is also very dangerous and worst part is there's little you can do to shield yourself. Deadly lottery
Congrats on hitting 4M! It’s been great to watch Steve from Blue’s Clues and his journey to become Captain Price!
Could y’all do a video where you actually evade a tracker team? Like give Mike a GoPro and take footage from both sides so we can see what it’s actually supposed to look like
Yes exactly. This video was cool but it was seriously lacking on evasion tactics. It was like, camo up and run. Well yeah obviously but I expect that there's more to it
@@nomadikphoto isn't that half of the point of E&E? camo and just run lol
That would be fuckin dope
Seconded
Oh hell yes
Option number 2 , if you are 65 years of age or older with a bad hip, screw playing Gi-Jo and just sit in your Lazy Boy and pop the first one through the door and your done , already had 2 near death experiences earlier in life and dying doesn't bother me in the least !
Drones give me the same feeling as AI. Once we have it, we can't go back anymore. We just need to adapt and get used to it so we don't stay behind. If we like it, or not.
I hope that our infantry get trained to control them effectively soon, but seeing as we still aren't getting better hand to hand training in basic kinda cuts that dream down in my head.
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Millions maybe even billions of AI controlled drones.
I would b like to believe nerds are working as we speak for counter drone tech that can be deployed at scale for every squad size element.
@@frucklesH2H isn’t a factor at scale. Watch Ukraine, the closet battles in ages and they aren’t dying from lack of h2h, plenty of rifles lying around to keep shooting.
@@fruckleswhat Nathan said. H2H is for special forces and that’s it, because the actual likelihood of a hand to hand brawl is minimal.
The survival/danger series is the best content. This is real life practical information and being able to see it put into action is invaluable.
I'm by no means an expert (my title actually is subject matter expert lmao) , but I have spent a great deal of time chasing service members with drones (thermal drones included).. the best thing you can do for a thermal drone like Mike said is to get into as thick of cover as you can, or get near another heat source (like hot rocks in the desert, or something else that produces heat that will hide your thermal signature)... and when it comes to wearing things like the tarp that he's wearing, you should keep it off of your body as much as possible. I've worked with guys from several Green Beret groups (shout out to 19th and 20th) and the best thing we've found for avoiding thermal detection is to toss that tarp or whatever cover you have up above you to keep the thermal signature from showing up on the camera. If the tarp/cover is touching you, you are transferring your body heat to it and giving away your concealment. Keep your body heat away from it, and it does a great job concealing against thermal. Even zip tying it to tree branches and huddling under it is pretty effective.
would an electric blanket work, if you could set it to the ambient air temperature? Although I think the blanket would have to cool down, not heat up. Are there any electric blankets that cool down rather than heat up, or do both?
I’ve heard somewhere that shooting fireworks in the air can cause problems for drones, because the heat and light from the fireworks can overwhelm the thermal and night vision sensors on drones. Is this true?
In sniper school we bought some mobile camping toilet tents, the pop up ones to cross a field at night that was guarded by thermals. As long as you don’t touch the fabric it won’t show
So tents instead of cloaks. Of course, the only real difference is weather or not you have something to prop it up
Dude would have been dead in first few minutes because he's trying to run with a backpack. The first thing when running for your life is lose excessive baggage and weight
I am Ex-Army born and raised in the Tropical forest.
I'd like to see you try ponchos made out of natural materials.
I used to throw together a quick one made out of dry and fresh banana tree leaves. Just tie the ends to a loop of 550 cord and throw it over the shoulders. Cut and tie on the go. The leaves are light, thick, and waterproof, so perhaps they can be opaque to thermals. Or break your outline.
Another one that can be made while you run is a hay, grass, or palm tree poncho like the ones the Japanese used. I'd like to see how effective that one is dry and then wet. It can hold water for quite a long time.
Also, just thick burlap, of the type used in coffee sacks. Dry and wet.
I learned to make those as visual camo when I was a kid playing tag in the jungle. I used them in the service to aggravate people during training exercises. But I never tried them against thermals.
Another trick is to only move when the wind blows if you are in audio range of a hostile. It works well in the forest, and it makes you impossible to track in elephant grass.
Old school is sometimes the best school.
Whos back because of the drones!!!!!!!!!!!!
Frank Reynolds: Don't joke about hunting no man. That happened to me once. Cop harassing me in Oregon next thing you know there was bodies everywhere. It was a bloodbath!
Dennis: I think you mixing ur life with John Rambo again.
I loved that episode
@@ryanupchurch9683 😂 What do you suppose we do when we catch him?
I was thinking probably something Teabag related.
Rambo only killed one person, though...
Rambo's killed countless people. Th you talkin bout? 🤣
@@LiberPater777 In _First Blood_ only one person died.
Man this reminds just how good SERE school was. The instructors were absolutely awesome.
As an old veteran, it is wild that this is now a thing. They went from toys to weapons really fast. From the movie screen to the real world even faster.
They were always weapons before toys. US military is like 20 year ahead of civilian tech.
Fascinating. Time to prep is before, like you said. Considering stuff in sky over E. US right now. Thanks, guys!
The water camouflage was better than the trees, wow, that was superb demostration.
Worked very well on thermal, but I think that even most entry-level thermal drones, like the Mavic 3 Thermal, are equipped with dual sensors. It would have been nice to show both images. In brown water, this might work, but in crystal clear water, this would give you away.
@Homie111092 if you are already spotted then yes you are right. If you can get into a river before spotted you might be okay as the majority of drone operators scan on thermal.
The good way is to find a three on the water to get in...and also get out.
Thermal energy hits a wall when it meets the surface of water. But visible light, while refracting, continues to pass on.
Getting into the water at night may be the best option. Then again, if you need to submerge yourself in order to E&E, you're already in a very bad spot.
@@0num4We actually found a guy we were tracking and had lost because one of our team stepped on him…underwater.