The most dangerous enemy in a Civil War

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  • @GruntProof
    @GruntProof  3 місяці тому +962

    Before you get hyped up, watch this: ua-cam.com/video/klsLqAc6yzI/v-deo.html

    • @dougied3449
      @dougied3449 3 місяці тому +2

      I've warned many that many veterans are not to be trusted just because they are veterans. I was a seal and know many who went to work for the elites. I even went to work for armored convoys years ago.
      When shtf, they will have dod, feds, nato forces, un forces and everyone else they can get.

    • @HybridGlobalCitizen
      @HybridGlobalCitizen 3 місяці тому +1

      Interesting, you forgot one little thingy, called the third line or front. As in do you not think Russia, China and other foreign Ops already in the Excited States of America, thanks to heads Biden and Kameltoe, shall not be working the populations in revolt to their benefit? They will not give two 's about, if you are right wing or left, Demon Cat or REPO., they will give you small arms and explosives, up the gazoo, and would likely rather deal with people who are law abiding MAGA boys and girls. Don't forget Russia is a Christian so-called State now. They will split the Excited States right down the middle with any UNcivil War. West Coast Canada etc for CHINA, Alaska and rest of USA for Russia The Civil War will be one of Rural vs Urban and in many States the National Guard has now become the State Guard, as in Florida and Texas. Those homeless Vet Junkies you talk about in tent cities, bent over and burnt out with drugs, mainly in California, many who have committed suicide. How many of them were/are X Navy Seals etc. Ya you are around 60% correct and this is a very good video, but both sides has a lot of surprises for the other, in addition fighting the UNcivil War will likely occur within a cold dark Nuclear Wasteland. OH keep a close eye on Cuba, some Canadian Ops guys I know, via JTF2, [they were on the CDN Patrol Boat and snuck in with rebreathers] are whispering that Putin is placing [probably has] hyper nukes into CUBA ALREADY. Not a few but dozens if not approaching 100. Remember they are smaller now and around 50 feet in length [with booster stage] and 5 feet to 6 feet in diameter, ~15.1 meters by ~1.5m to 1.75m. Don't think your navy Seals will do much with thyroids the size of coco-nuts. HAHAHAHAHA

    • @ineedabeerandaliedwn
      @ineedabeerandaliedwn 3 місяці тому +31

      @@GruntProof dude keep preaching! Testify brother!

    • @LowBudgetYoutuber
      @LowBudgetYoutuber 3 місяці тому +11

      I'm a Loser. You have a better Dad than myself. Made me stronger and you softer. I'm ok with that. Hell breaks loose you're your own worst enemy and Digestive and Infection will get you sooner than a gunfight you hiding under your bed from.

    • @Ronin____5000
      @Ronin____5000 3 місяці тому +3

      Truth. Good words here.

  • @YouveBeenMiddled
    @YouveBeenMiddled 9 місяців тому +7618

    Train like an operator, fight like a guerrilla.
    We don't have to win, we just can't lose.

    • @Drew_Dittman
      @Drew_Dittman 9 місяців тому +253

      Love this ❤️. As a once upon Grunt Combat Doc who faced guerrilla warfare, your observation is way more accurate that 99% here know, or could ever know or ever fathom. Men fighting for their literal home and existence, is a very different kinda magnitude of force.

    • @NightmareCat333
      @NightmareCat333 9 місяців тому +147

      Negative we have already won we are already eternal ; from our rotting corpses infinite beautiful things will rise from the ashes just as we raged against the dying light ; have no fear for we are already eternal

    • @WN_Byers
      @WN_Byers 9 місяців тому +12

      @nightmarecat16 Amen. And so it was

    • @noname2-190
      @noname2-190 9 місяців тому +61

      Exactly right I saw a video that made a good point and thats that you can train like US infantry or SF and those skills are good but you won't have the logistics they have supporting them if you want to study a good insurgency study the VC and the Taliban

    • @deangullberry5148
      @deangullberry5148 9 місяців тому +62

      ​@@noname2-190don't forget the Somalis. They couldn't fight for shit, but they used their numbers to keep the heat turned up on us 24/7.

  • @PNWGUERRILLA
    @PNWGUERRILLA 9 місяців тому +6040

    It’s terrifying how right he is.

    • @jimketchum3169
      @jimketchum3169 9 місяців тому +75

      No shit, dude, I just got a notification for your latest video while I was reading these comments.😂

    • @davidsaint3642
      @davidsaint3642 9 місяців тому +105

      Terrified me so much I dropped a couple lame subscriptions and picked up this one. Best 10 minutes I've sat through in some time. HARD HITTING. Thanks recommendbots.

    • @FightForFreedom1776
      @FightForFreedom1776 9 місяців тому +24

      Well, fancy seeing you here lol

    • @milesrost6674
      @milesrost6674 9 місяців тому +18

      Great to see you here Brother!

    • @greenhorn7184
      @greenhorn7184 9 місяців тому +62

      He is right , I gotta train hard so I can least give them hell

  • @TheUndergroundGazette
    @TheUndergroundGazette 3 місяці тому +1770

    If I can, I will shoot
    If I cannot shoot, I will reload
    If I cannot reload, I will bring ammo
    If I can't bring ammo, I'll help the wounded
    If I can't help the wounded, I'll give blood
    If I can't give blood, I'm probably dead
    If I'm dead, strip what you can from my body and keep fighting

    • @masonspencer9579
      @masonspencer9579 3 місяці тому +56

      @@TheUndergroundGazette welcome home brother

    • @Donnach
      @Donnach 3 місяці тому +26

      @@TheUndergroundGazette HEAR, HEAR!!

    • @steelmerc
      @steelmerc 3 місяці тому +32

      Until Valhalla

    • @allenharvey7141
      @allenharvey7141 3 місяці тому +22

      Scavenger pro enabled 😅

    • @GrandmaDaewood
      @GrandmaDaewood 3 місяці тому +10

      Fuggin sick, dawg. Love it.

  • @A.Mardle
    @A.Mardle 3 місяці тому +250

    If you want (or expect) to fight a civil war, learn how to deal with drones and smart artillery/missile strikes. That is how they will come for you - that and General Winter, Brigadier Starvation and Colonel Epidemic.

    • @mclarkusa
      @mclarkusa 2 місяці тому +3

      @@A.Mardle TRUTH

    • @jebediah4780
      @jebediah4780 2 місяці тому +12

      Very true, we are already seeing this in Ukraine. Missile/artillery strikes with drones constantly monitoring your location and movements, so far away that you can't see or hear the drone.

    • @kc72186
      @kc72186 Місяць тому +1

      @@A.Mardle don't forget corporal infutrater.

    • @bobbywright6354
      @bobbywright6354 Місяць тому

      @@kc72186 corporal infiltrator lol

    • @justaneditygangstar
      @justaneditygangstar Місяць тому +3

      Truth is, you won’t. This country will be just as devastated and war torn if not worse than Syria.

  • @edwardutter6975
    @edwardutter6975 9 місяців тому +2506

    I am 62 and not in the best condition due to past injuries. I can load mags and I can fix stuff,and I can shoot. I will adapt,improvise and overcome.

    • @skullofserpent5727
      @skullofserpent5727 9 місяців тому +82

      U bet your ass u will!

    • @GunManGunHand
      @GunManGunHand 9 місяців тому +101

      You have prior military experience, you can train people.

    • @casper3130
      @casper3130 9 місяців тому +45

      Sniper

    • @bobnewfart
      @bobnewfart 9 місяців тому

      @@casper3130 You should see my rig in Creedmoore

    • @codygeery9348
      @codygeery9348 9 місяців тому +13

      Can you walk?

  • @msh441
    @msh441 3 місяці тому +3069

    The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose. -Henry Kissinger

    • @ADoneGooner
      @ADoneGooner 3 місяці тому +22

      And now I need a heart pill.

    • @ftcentrepreneur
      @ftcentrepreneur 3 місяці тому +39

      It's true. But it's also true when fighting an ideology it usually turns into a democide.

    • @behindthespotlight7983
      @behindthespotlight7983 3 місяці тому +67

      I despise Kissinger. But the quote is perfect.

    • @prrsd4046
      @prrsd4046 3 місяці тому +32

      Kissinger "The Minister of Death".

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому +12

      Because with conventional armies there's a line that, once crossed, means the army is no more. But the soldiers are still there and then the soldiers then become guerrillas.

  • @MrTIGERH1752
    @MrTIGERH1752 3 місяці тому +2072

    55 years ago, I fought against a group of gorilla fighters/patriots, who successfully defend their country against foreign ideology, as well as against the premier military power on the planet.
    I lost, and so did my military forces, the best in the world !!!
    Some how the courage, and correctness of these patriots/believers in their cause won the war !!!
    My Son lost his life, fighting against another gorilla force, this time in Afghanistan, another country that had never submitted to a foreign power in all of history.
    Is any one foolish enough to think, that American patriots will not defend our homes against any and all enemies foreign or domestic ???
    While it will not be my fight. At 74 years of age, and with cancer, caused by agent orange, having pretty well removed me from direct combat. I will still defend my home and family as best I can.
    I will never surrender, and I will never retreat.
    I am an American.
    Tim

    • @sharonr2121
      @sharonr2121 3 місяці тому +129

      @@MrTIGERH1752 There is hope. God became a human as Jesus and died to take the penalty for everything wrong you’ve ever done, then rose again. Sin is disobedience to how God tells us to live (mainly in the New Testament). If you want to be with him for eternity and be saved from hell, believe in him and what he did (John 3:16), and turn away from habits of sin (Luke 13:3). Your actions are evidence for whether your faith is real (James 2:17), but you’re not saved by your actions directly, only by God’s mercy (Ephesians 2:8-9). We all mess up and sin, so when you do, just confess your sin to God (1 John 1:9) and continue on fighting. It won’t make life easy, but God can give you hope. By the way, I hope you have a great day!

    • @TheWolfElder
      @TheWolfElder 3 місяці тому +51

      Thank you for your service. Be safe out there.

    • @d3ltaohniner261
      @d3ltaohniner261 3 місяці тому +48

      *guerrilla, not gorilla

    • @4pawssavedme
      @4pawssavedme 3 місяці тому +19

      @@MrTIGERH1752 god bless you sir ❤️

    • @StacyBaldwin-qv5cj
      @StacyBaldwin-qv5cj 3 місяці тому +41

      Tim you sir are logistics and planning. Your service in nam, would be invaluable in the rear. You direct operations, and help get supplies to those who need it.
      In a war, the real hero is the guy in supply, who makes sure the front line has what it needs.

  • @americandude3825
    @americandude3825 Місяць тому +137

    It’s easy to convince forces who the bad guy is too.
    “We recieved intel from higher that Grunt is a former Marine, hates the government, has an arsenal in his house, and plans to overthrow his local state capital.”
    And none of it is true…but lower ranks execute bc they are fully in faith to their leadership….they never question anything.
    I used to be that guy. Then I got out and woke up.
    Semper Fi.

    • @scdrescher1
      @scdrescher1 Місяць тому +7

      The description you just gave is the guy I want to hang out with drinking whiskey.

    • @americandude3825
      @americandude3825 Місяць тому +2

      @@scdrescher1 few and far between.

    • @kyled3660
      @kyled3660 26 днів тому +1

      Same

    • @zachwieberg6002
      @zachwieberg6002 25 днів тому +1

      @@americandude3825 Sic Semper Tyrannis. Mo. Z3 Threeper 4life.

    • @Panzermech
      @Panzermech 24 дні тому +1

      Google Randy Weaver😢😢

  • @Kjrov
    @Kjrov 3 місяці тому +2707

    Gentlemen, it's been an honour being on a watchlist with you.

    • @NoPeace4theEvil
      @NoPeace4theEvil 3 місяці тому +96

      Hell, im not even American and I might be in one 😂😂😂

    • @user-fy6ii5uo7g
      @user-fy6ii5uo7g 3 місяці тому +15

      🫡

    • @Unknownorgin82
      @Unknownorgin82 3 місяці тому +83

      I wear being in the watch list as a badge of honor, fuck this government

    • @Chris-vy8ep
      @Chris-vy8ep 3 місяці тому +30

      See you at the fbi line up sir.🫡

    • @jacobperry426
      @jacobperry426 3 місяці тому +20

      It’s been a damn pleasure

  • @hedonisticpunkvatos
    @hedonisticpunkvatos 3 місяці тому +725

    You're the first guy who talks about being a good American when SHTF. I align with your morality. Keep educating us. You're not alone, and thank you.

    • @bribbertyjibbert
      @bribbertyjibbert 3 місяці тому +4

      @@hedonisticpunkvatos Yeah, but did you miss out on StormCloudsGathering or did you forget him?

    • @Greg-yu4ij
      @Greg-yu4ij 3 місяці тому +13

      Yeah, your neighbors are Americans, talk to them, help them, don’t shoot them.

    • @Sasquatchbones
      @Sasquatchbones 3 місяці тому

      @@Greg-yu4ijthese are extremists… they are borderline traitors that would shoot Americans for extrem political and religious ideology’s

    • @MrCharmz81
      @MrCharmz81 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree, stand on board with God's army, not Satan's evil army who is just blood thirsty.

    • @thedudefromU
      @thedudefromU 2 місяці тому

      @@hedonisticpunkvatos civilization survives of we stay civilized

  • @jstubbz198
    @jstubbz198 9 місяців тому +984

    In Afghanistan I carried 16 mags. Plus 40mm plus a couple frags on my vest. My thoughts then was I didn’t want to end up like the black hawk down guys, I was also 18-19, I’m now 40 my body isn’t the same. Stay fit and frosty out there

    • @huwhitecavebeast1972
      @huwhitecavebeast1972 9 місяців тому +95

      I wouldn't carry less than 10 mags in any kind of combat. You can still be pretty dang fit in your 40s. Saw a Vietnam vet in his 70s kicking ass fitness-wise here on youtube. Have to see it to believe it.

    • @brotherbrovet1881
      @brotherbrovet1881 9 місяців тому +84

      I'm almost 60, an old LRRS guy from '85-'93.
      We allways carried 20 magazines standard, usualy MG belts, frags, smokes, flares, 40mm and at least one claymore mine...SOP. That's what rucks and bandoliers are for. The Ruck usually weighed 80+lbs. I'm a spinal Cord Injury Disabled guy today with 3 surgeries at L5S1 where the kidney pad on the ALICE ruck goes.
      These days, I still hump up and down my ridge here in the Ozarks. (I use a pack other than the ALICE that crippled me.) I can still do what I did 30+yrs ago... I just can't sustain it day after day. I absolutely require recovery time... and I really need my sleep these days. I also can't go without food like I used to. If I don't eat every 12hrs or so, my body starts shutting down.

    • @andrewcarlson2178
      @andrewcarlson2178 9 місяців тому +26

      ​@@brotherbrovet1881I hear that. I'm 3/4" shorter than I was back then due to all that humping packs

    • @brotherbrovet1881
      @brotherbrovet1881 9 місяців тому +46

      @andrewcarlson2178 lol... I'm almost 2" shorter than when I enlisted. It all happened from enlistment to discharge. I went from 5'11" to 5'9-1/2" . Spinal compression is real. There are countless thousands of grunts who are disabled because of the shitty gear bought from the lowest bidders. Boots with no arch support, rucks that cripple guys...oh, and if the disability wasn't obvious before discharge...it's not a Line of Duty injury and you're on your own.

    • @gunnergrunt69
      @gunnergrunt69 9 місяців тому +24

      I was a SAW gunner and made sure I had at least 4 drums, 2 frags, and 2 purple smokes on me everyday. My knees are shit now and I have sciatica. But I feel that I am still alive because of my decision.

  • @zacharycrago2753
    @zacharycrago2753 2 місяці тому +48

    The guerrilla doesn't have to win, he just can't lose. Real stuff here that everyone should think about. Keep it up bro.

    • @Sophistry0001
      @Sophistry0001 Місяць тому +1

      I don't know who this quote comes from, but it was from the US in Iraq/Afghanistan. The US force has watches, but the guerillas have time. They just melt away and disappear back into the general population to fight another day. Granted, there was A LOT of new tech that came out during the last 20 years over there geared specifically towards identifying people, retina scans, surveillance, gunpowder trace detection. Couple that with the last couple years, AI, drones, etc. Won't be easy that's for sure.

    • @GodsDumbLamb
      @GodsDumbLamb 14 днів тому

      what was the kill death ratio? I keep hearing people say that, but htey dont talk about how many Vietcong and Talibaned were iced for it to happen.

    • @Sophistry0001
      @Sophistry0001 14 днів тому

      @@GodsDumbLamb It's not normal math tho, its terrorist math. You have 10 terrorists, and you kill 2, how many are left? 20, you just radicalized those 2 guys friends and family members. But you are right in the fact that these were enemies who were not afraid to die for the cause.

  • @killbill5486
    @killbill5486 3 місяці тому +1126

    What if it never happens? Then you're just healthier, wiser, and more of an asset to those around you.
    "Better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war".

    • @cleanmikeandtheboys3165
      @cleanmikeandtheboys3165 3 місяці тому +56

      @@killbill5486 I like the mentality of preparedness, but that quote always rubbed me the wrong way. I know for a fact it's my personal bias from being on a farm lol, don't like to see that hard work getting downplayed.
      If being a gardener only means he cannot fight, then being a warrior would only mean he cannot feed himself.
      I'm making mountains out of molehills here anyways: because push comes to shove, I'll feed the warrior in a heartbeat and hopefully he'll keep my farm safe so we can both do the same tomorrow.

    • @huyoken7953
      @huyoken7953 3 місяці тому +16

      Unless your a gardener of death

    • @cleanmikeandtheboys3165
      @cleanmikeandtheboys3165 3 місяці тому +16

      @@huyoken7953 "yeah I grow white lilies" 😂

    • @killbill5486
      @killbill5486 3 місяці тому +13

      @@cleanmikeandtheboys3165 you shouldn't be so sensitive and ego driven. That is exploitable weakness with all due respect. And most people don't think gardening is the same as farming.

    • @cleanmikeandtheboys3165
      @cleanmikeandtheboys3165 3 місяці тому +6

      @@killbill5486 like I said, if ever the stakes are high, none of what I said up there would matter to me any longer. Or at least that's what I meant to say, sry if it didn't come out that way.
      In the case of gardening vs farming, if people really see it as two completely different things, then I wouldn't even want to be a gardener in a garden lol

  • @forestchicken3302
    @forestchicken3302 9 місяців тому +660

    Fitness and Skill is very important. Tactics beat both. Use your best weapon, your mind. Fight as unfairly as possible.

    • @cheekibreeki921
      @cheekibreeki921 9 місяців тому +29

      Fight dirty even, if necessary

    • @dommyboysmith
      @dommyboysmith 9 місяців тому +25

      "Life is not knights on horseback. It's a number on s piece of paper. It's a fight for a knife in the mud."

    • @McCarthy1776
      @McCarthy1776 9 місяців тому +32

      Tactics don't mean anything without fitness. If you heat cat in the middle of a firefight or pass the fuck out carrying 100 lbs of gear for miles and never even get to the battle then tactics are then useless

    • @cliftonmosier5131
      @cliftonmosier5131 9 місяців тому +1

      Life or death, anything is fair

    • @1truthseeking8
      @1truthseeking8 9 місяців тому

      ​@@McCarthy1776 or a dozen small drones pop your noggin like a video game before you make it two days

  • @leveraction3
    @leveraction3 3 місяці тому +517

    remember in our first civil war, a lot of guys knew each other on both sides, family friends, collaborators

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому +2

      Probably not even the 10th of 1%

    • @donohueproductions7058
      @donohueproductions7058 3 місяці тому +47

      And despite the rulers fighting over slavery and banking
      And coming to a treaty. We are still slaves to the gov and banking.
      We lost that war and the revolution

    • @nathanielovaughn2145
      @nathanielovaughn2145 3 місяці тому +12

      ​@@Eman-vp5wk
      Research it. MANY families and friends were divided

    • @Michaelfatman-xo7gv
      @Michaelfatman-xo7gv 3 місяці тому +17

      Which civil war? The English Civil War? The Revolution? The American Civil War? Same people running things made all three

    • @willwright7728
      @willwright7728 3 місяці тому +10

      @@donohueproductions7058y’all should of picked the southern side to begin with. They were the ones fighting against the tyrannical government. Slavery was given to the southerners by the people who wanted to abolish it. You think southerners were going on ships to Africa?? Haha no.

  • @PaulAllan-jm2xu
    @PaulAllan-jm2xu 3 місяці тому +51

    Send all you want , I didn't invest in ammunition , I invested in knowledge of the periodic table

    • @CalciumCrusader
      @CalciumCrusader 3 місяці тому +8

      They can’t shoot you if they can’t get in their cars

    • @qtpietc
      @qtpietc 22 дні тому

      Love it!

  • @kenk1871
    @kenk1871 3 місяці тому +1203

    All anyone needs to realize is that even the best operators in the world are still only human.

    • @freedomprophet9264
      @freedomprophet9264 3 місяці тому +105

      @@kenk1871 if they bleed they can be deleted

    • @GenXMafia
      @GenXMafia 3 місяці тому +48

      @@kenk1871 Yep the Secret Service proved that.

    • @imagitu6409
      @imagitu6409 3 місяці тому +19

      their gear aint human tho.

    • @stonecoldmoogie7458
      @stonecoldmoogie7458 3 місяці тому +35

      @@GenXMafia don’t think for a minute that that particular SS detail was part of their normal crew. They were all handpicked dei hires. Swollen heads with a suit and a weapon.

    • @greyveteran7007
      @greyveteran7007 3 місяці тому +4

      They are Soooo much faster than me, I'll have to start at 600m

  • @AmericanRomanEmpire
    @AmericanRomanEmpire 9 місяців тому +515

    I know many military vets, especially in San Antonio and Milwaukee. What this man is saying is true. Most of my high school teachers back in the 90s were mostly Vietnam & first Gulf War vets. I graduated in 99, before I did I remember this one time when this so-called Latin King threatened my shop teacher, Mr.Wagner, and he grabbed this punk ass kid and told him “If the US government given a check to kill your ass & I would do it without pause”. The kid's reaction was a dead silent look and Mr. Wagner's eyes had a dull dark look as if nothing else mattered. Mr.Wagner was a Marine during the Vietnam War. I don't use the word ex because it never goes away but it becomes you.

    • @huwhitecavebeast1972
      @huwhitecavebeast1972 9 місяців тому

      Those guys were hard dudes. Known plenty myself. Thankfully most of them were NOT the type to kill Americans for a paycheck.

    • @AmericanRomanEmpire
      @AmericanRomanEmpire 9 місяців тому

      @@ControlsEngineerOne​​⁠you would have to check online for tactical training and please be advised that there are a lot of fake teachers in on the money rather than training you in the right way. Check on UA-cam, UA-cam has a few videos where links are listed on their video of where & how to train. In Texas, we have a lot of military bases and vets all over the place, especially in San Antonio which is known as “Military City”. Milwaukee isn't really known for its military life but for producing military equipment. Also civil service gigs for any position at usajob.gov

    • @PotionSlammerGaming
      @PotionSlammerGaming 9 місяців тому +44

      “I went to Vietnam…
      AND I FUCKIN LOVED IT!”

    • @cliffords2315
      @cliffords2315 3 місяці тому +14

      Im one of those Vets

    • @josephcernansky1794
      @josephcernansky1794 3 місяці тому

      I was raised by The Greatest Generation....and THANK GOD I WAS!!! My father was there to see the 1st and 2nd (photo-memorial) flag raised on Mount Suribachi. Then ended up as a "replacement" on Okinawa then later in Korea. The man I worked for as a teenager who taught all about residential home building climbed Pont-Du-Hoc on D-Day....THOSE MEN took NO shit!!! And many more I came in contact with. ALL my friend's dads served all over the world in WW2......WE LEARNED from them!! Yeah, I may be older than some smart-ass 20-something twerp....but those Mother-F'n pussies will NEVER SURVIVE how I grew up as a kid 50, 60 years ago.

  • @isaiahmarquez9717
    @isaiahmarquez9717 3 місяці тому +264

    Well said. I was 22 years army airborne infantry with 5 deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq. I thought I was pretty damn good. Took only a few weeks to dispel that notion. I spent a year with a high speed unit. The first few weeks of that showed me how much different “the other side” worked. Later on, I showed up to a selection in top physical shape, only to realize that it wasn’t anywhere near good enough.
    I’m proud of my service and I AM (or was) pretty damn good. But SOF is a whole different world. A whole different beast. Like he said, most of the guys I met are stand up, grade A dudes. I’d gladly serve with them again if they’d have me. But those days are long gone. Gonna be 50 in a little while. My running and gunning days are over. I can still shoot, but I’m no sniper. Learn a different skill. Stay in shape as best you can. I don’t want a civil war to pop off. I don’t think anyone really wants one except the psychos and the elites.
    Hopefully, America can overcome this situation we’re in. God help us.
    Damn. If I wasn’t on a watch list before, well….here we are.

    • @wallacebrucker1584
      @wallacebrucker1584 3 місяці тому

      He is correct. Unfortunately I believe ,"it's" coming. balkanization, separation, secession, bloody civil war. We ,as a Nation, can not/will not survive what is coming. I wish it were otherwise but the bearers of chaos, corruption , oppression and totalarianism or on the march and growing stronger. Be aware and be prepared.

    • @ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky
      @ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky 3 місяці тому +9

      I’d say give voting one last chance.

    • @voodoochild6741
      @voodoochild6741 3 місяці тому +6

      If the balloon goes up I hope we are on the same fire team brother. I am a Veteran about the same age .

    • @hanselito2416
      @hanselito2416 3 місяці тому +4

      People want peace abroad and peace at home.

    • @MrCharmz81
      @MrCharmz81 3 місяці тому +2

      Not contractors, and Satan's henchmen.

  • @dustydesertdisciple6290
    @dustydesertdisciple6290 3 місяці тому +11

    I just turned 33, im a recovering addict and overweight, time to seriously get my shit together. Subbed God bless you brother.

    • @anomaly8795
      @anomaly8795 20 днів тому

      @@dustydesertdisciple6290 I’m 35 and I’ve been in recovery for 6 years. I think the drug epidemic on our generation was planned.. it’s going to be up to our generation to stand up and be men. For our mothers, our wives, sons and daughters. Started buying firearms and training at the start of 2024. I have the mindset, or an intuition that i need to get ready to fight..

  • @reesestewart2028
    @reesestewart2028 3 місяці тому +326

    Not every soldier is a warrior, not every warrior is a soldier.

  • @mattk6827
    @mattk6827 3 місяці тому +1236

    In the 1700's the british thought they had it locked down because they had more money, the bigger badder army etc. How'd that go for them?

    • @LazySillyDog
      @LazySillyDog 3 місяці тому +91

      @@mattk6827 they also used different tactics then than they do now. I get your point, but there's a significant difference between their military then and our situation now. Too much bread and circus for too many people

    • @Founder6087
      @Founder6087 3 місяці тому +118

      ​@@LazySillyDog Afghanistan held us off for how long?
      It became a death pit.
      If they have a method, we can create one as well

    • @MycoloG2H
      @MycoloG2H 3 місяці тому

      Drones. Nvgs. Thermals.
      It's different now. It will be the fall of a "free" country into a slum of turf war

    • @wtsharpproductions
      @wtsharpproductions 3 місяці тому +37

      I hate to ruin the fun at the party, and I am glad that things turned out they way it did for America to be created, but uhhmmm at the time, France and the Spanish got involved assisting in the fight against Britain. The French moreso had put a wrench into Britain's plans.
      I guess today you don't have to worry about France helping since France has gone woke g @ Y and all, but take note you might want to make friends with the Spanish people again. Just my thoughts.
      Again, not trying to take away from the glory of it all, and am glad that it turned out the way it did for America to be created. Because over time, America turned out to be a pretty BAD-AZZ country imo.
      American Battlefield Trust: The Revolutionary War in 36 Minutes

    • @-iloveyou
      @-iloveyou 3 місяці тому +10

      Yea and about 1000 miles of disconnect

  • @badgerbusiness9059
    @badgerbusiness9059 9 місяців тому +723

    "Charlie didn't get much RnR, some cold rice and a little rat meat", " he had only two ways home, victory or death". "Every time I looked around...the walls got a little tighter".

    • @JMBeaushriimp
      @JMBeaushriimp 9 місяців тому +64

      "Saigon. Shit, I'm still only in Saigon..."

    • @SSN515
      @SSN515 9 місяців тому +79

      "The more I was in the jungle, the more I wanted to be home. The more I was home, the more I wanted to be back in the jungle"

    • @badgerbusiness9059
      @badgerbusiness9059 9 місяців тому +23

      @@JMBeaushriimp Been here a week now...waiting for a mission.

    • @JMBeaushriimp
      @JMBeaushriimp 9 місяців тому +7

      @@badgerbusiness9059 Original or Redux?

    • @jamomeara1894
      @jamomeara1894 9 місяців тому +7

      @@JMBeaushriimpall those line are in both

  • @sumdumcat
    @sumdumcat 3 місяці тому +13

    I may be a little older now, with many health issues. I may not be able to run 5 miles a day or more any longer. But I can still hit out to 600+ meters. I can talk with people and build communities. I can build a house from the ground up. Feed my family without going to the local mart. Read a map and compass. I know my limits, and my strengths. And one of my (and many of us older guys) bests advantages is we know what we are capable of. The enemy does not.

  • @Front-Toward-Enemy
    @Front-Toward-Enemy 9 місяців тому +380

    I hear it all the time. “I don’t plan on getting into close combat with the bad guys, so im not training in cqb”. “Im not planning on engaging beyond 100yrds, so im not learning long distance shooting.” “Im not planning on getting into a big gun fight so Im not carrying a bunch of mags” “Im not planning on getting into a gun fight so im not wearing a plate carrier”
    All these things are being said by people who call themselves “preppers” but they don’t seem to be preparing for anything.

    • @jimketchum3169
      @jimketchum3169 9 місяців тому +68

      Yeah, meanwhile troops who are not friendlies to us are learning cqb, sniping and carrying 16 mags of 30 and our guv wants to crack down on us training and to limit us to 10 round mags...for now..... Wtf.

    • @ahole5407
      @ahole5407 9 місяців тому

      Be wise and know that the feds have been infiltrating the community for years and spreading misinformation to confuse people. The tactics they fear the most are the ones they claim are not necessary. Anything the gummint says you cannot have is what you should have. Anything the feds say you should not know is something you should be an expert on.

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 9 місяців тому

      @@jimketchum3169 Welcome to capitalism - Profits over People! Ukrainians have shown how effective $500 drones can be for destroying hundred million dollar tanks. The capitalists are scared now - and they should be :)

    • @RighteousJ
      @RighteousJ 9 місяців тому +18

      The first thing I did when I bought an AR was buy an entire box of magazines and enough ammo to reload them all three times.
      That was before I started getting a training ammo stockpile.

    • @Front-Toward-Enemy
      @Front-Toward-Enemy 9 місяців тому +55

      @@jimketchum3169 Yup, your enemy is training to kill you. Act accordingly

  • @andrewb2111
    @andrewb2111 8 місяців тому +282

    Study your enemies ... they are predictable if you know their tactics. Study your politicians even better ... they are the ones who deploy your enemies.

    • @PuckChudkins
      @PuckChudkins 3 місяці тому +1

      @@andrewb2111 you’re on crack if you think you could predict anything a group of CAG dudes are about to do

    • @garouuchiha4041
      @garouuchiha4041 3 місяці тому

      America, it's greatest weakness is it's own people.
      America isn't a country.
      America is not ready for another World War.

    • @blackatrium
      @blackatrium 3 місяці тому +7

      Politicians are not the ones actually moving small units around on the field. The NCOs are.

    • @ericbroussard7402
      @ericbroussard7402 3 місяці тому +14

      @@blackatrium Yes, but there are thousands of units with thousands of NCOs running them. And only a handful of politicians that are would-be high value targets. While it is important to have units dealing with enemy units out in the field it is also important to have smaller clandestine units dealing with politicians in their homes or wherever they are hiding.
      Otherwise, what's the point? At the end of the day those soldiers and NCOs you face out in the field aren't the ones making the policies that result in everything going to shit. If you can stop the enemy from advancing on your village, cool.
      But unless you wipe out their village, they're just going to continue sending more to wipe out yours.
      Those spineless pissants who send other men to fight and die to enforce their policies should fear for their own safety for doing so.

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому

      Do you have any insight on the gangstalking epidemic in this country?
      The citizens being hired by the state to target and harass innocent fellow citizens?

  • @NamorVendetta
    @NamorVendetta 3 місяці тому +611

    We don’t study how to be seals and sof, we study the insurgents that they seem to never be able to beat.

    • @Marconius-SPQR
      @Marconius-SPQR 3 місяці тому +23

      Bingo !

    • @JohnDoe-zl6qw
      @JohnDoe-zl6qw 3 місяці тому +133

      The difference, however, is the rules of engagement. In those conflicts, soldiers hands are intentionally tied so as to prolong the war. Which in turn creates more profits for the military-industrial complex or otherwise achieves some politically-motivated goal.
      A domestic conflict, by contrast, will be different. It will be no-holds-barred orders to exterminate with extreme prejudice. I'm not saying that means an automatic win for "them", but it does mean that we can't use previous overseas conflicts as a template for how things would go down domestically; at least not exclusively.
      There's certainly lessons to be learned studying unconventional asymmetric warfare; agreed 100%. Just don't assume a domestic conflict is going to play out the same as the conflicts in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan; it will be its own beast.

    • @Rueben-xr1cs
      @Rueben-xr1cs 3 місяці тому +9

      Someone gets it

    • @stanleyshannon4408
      @stanleyshannon4408 3 місяці тому +51

      ​@JohnDoe-zl6qw the other consideration is that those we fought there had many sons. Lose a few, the family survives. Here, very few have more than one or two. Every KIA is the obliteration of ancient family lineages, never to return. Extinction.

    • @nikolakaravida9670
      @nikolakaravida9670 3 місяці тому

      There is a catch. In places like Afghan they had to operate under the hearts and minds bullshit. If shit goes down in the US, all hell breaks loose, there will be no regulations. The Romans knew how to handle insurgencies - it's not hearts and minds, it's salting the earth.

  • @christopherfritz3840
    @christopherfritz3840 3 місяці тому +18

    Remarkable that YT has allowed me to watch this..

  • @jordantucker3434
    @jordantucker3434 3 місяці тому +1328

    The Taliban ran around with flip flops and AKs and put up a fight for 20 years.

    • @nidalnidal-bg6ie
      @nidalnidal-bg6ie 3 місяці тому +165

      And won

    • @whywhy4137
      @whywhy4137 3 місяці тому +167

      @@nidalnidal-bg6ie when people say taliban "won" they technically did. But little do people know, the goal was never to defeat taliban lol. If we wanted to beat taliban we could have. But winning isn't profitable.

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 3 місяці тому +129

      @@whywhy4137 Exactly. Opium fields production went up exponentially after the US took over, after 9/11. It wasn't oil pipelines they wanted.

    • @IrishBurgerKing-fx2nj
      @IrishBurgerKing-fx2nj 3 місяці тому +25

      Based. And they won too! 😂😂😂

    • @IrishBurgerKing-fx2nj
      @IrishBurgerKing-fx2nj 3 місяці тому +31

      @@whywhy4137 Cope

  • @jaybarr3307
    @jaybarr3307 3 місяці тому +744

    I always take combat advice from people with beer in their hand.

    • @hawkgeoff
      @hawkgeoff 3 місяці тому +49

      That will probably be the best advice you get...

    • @andidyouknow8208
      @andidyouknow8208 3 місяці тому

      @@jaybarr3307 real

    • @keithknechg3217
      @keithknechg3217 3 місяці тому +13

      Really,lite...that aint beer .i pee more alcohol.probably got the good stuff in the barn.😛

    • @isaiahmarquez9717
      @isaiahmarquez9717 3 місяці тому +11

      In all fairness, it was a talk, not a training event. 🍺

    • @whiplash8277
      @whiplash8277 3 місяці тому +3

      I thought it was a great prop.

  • @daxisperry7644
    @daxisperry7644 9 місяців тому +113

    I only did 4 years in Marine Corps. Combat Engineer. Never been in the shit before. But I’ve stayed in shape. Hit the weights and martial arts regularly. I never found out if I had what it takes when the bullets start flying, but I’m willing to find out if it comes to it. I’m not an operator, but I’d say I’m more prepared than the average guy. I hope it’s enough but I’ll keep pushing to get better prepared.

    • @EstesRanch
      @EstesRanch 8 місяців тому +7

      Nice post. Just being willing says a lot

    • @BeDangerousGroup
      @BeDangerousGroup 8 місяців тому +8

      Just realize that you are better than 99% of the dudes out there just doing the stuff you're doing now. Don't discount that and feel proud. Keep pushing yourself harder everyday, but know you are in the right place and frame of mind.
      Stay hard & be dangerous!

    • @daxisperry7644
      @daxisperry7644 8 місяців тому +2

      Thanks man!@@BeDangerousGroup

    • @sapo_d3pressv062
      @sapo_d3pressv062 5 місяців тому +5

      doesn't really matter if you have deployed in combat or not, you still have an awesome experience that many ppl won't possess.

    • @cliffords2315
      @cliffords2315 3 місяці тому +2

      it will be Historic if it happens, just remember who took out the worlds most powerful military in the
      late 1770s, guys like us

  • @dennisnelson61
    @dennisnelson61 3 місяці тому +4

    Well said young man, I’ve been telling whoever would listen basically the same thing. Like others that have commented, I’m in no way young enough nor healthy enough being 63 heart bypass and overweight to run and gun. I never was an “operator” most weren’t no matter how many claim they were. I was a Navy Engineman of which I’m proud.
    I am reminded of the guy on Sean Ryan’s podcast that brought up Samuel Whitmore, he was a militia man in the Revolutionary War. At 76 and a fighting machine! Google him I promise you will be impressed. That’s the mentality we will need. I love my Country and I will fight, I have no illusions that I will last very long. But I will Fight!

  • @herknorth8691
    @herknorth8691 9 місяців тому +510

    One way or another, '24 will be an interesting year.

    • @RAINSMAN79
      @RAINSMAN79 9 місяців тому +13

      Yep, I’m here for the show

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 9 місяців тому +17

      @John-kj5wh Unfortunately, the system has figured out how to weaponize stupidity via the Dunning-Kruger effect heh

    • @chrismitchell45
      @chrismitchell45 9 місяців тому

      Can’t go first… sucks.

    • @crusader.survivor
      @crusader.survivor 9 місяців тому +1

      2024 is the year of the Green Wood Dragon, the highest of all dragons, the patron-saint of emperors!

    • @steveguse4481
      @steveguse4481 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@John-kj5whWotan hunts...

  • @WN_Byers
    @WN_Byers 9 місяців тому +164

    From The Militia and Minute Men of 1775: Militiamen were required to be armed “as according to law.” This meant that they were to have “a well fixt Firelock Musket, of Musket (69-75 caliber) or Bastard Musket (50-60 caliber) Bore, the Barrel not less than Three Foot and a half long; or other good Fire Arms, to the Satisfaction of the commission officer of the company...” They were also expected to have twenty bullets fit to their gun, one pound of powder, twelve flints, and a cutting sword. Later, bayonets were required for at least half the men in each company. As with the training, fines were levied against those who failed to provide themselves with these arms.
    Ammunition was often carried in a cartridge box, a leather bag fitted with a wooden block with holes drilled in to accept a paper cartridge, a sealed tube of paper containing a measured amount of powder (enough for one shot) and a lead ball. Militiamen and minute men also had knapsacks, blankets and wooden canteens."
    Just doing our Patriotic duty and following historic tradition.

    • @seankingwell3692
      @seankingwell3692 9 місяців тому +5

      Wow thanks for the history lesson. :)

    • @andrewcarlson2178
      @andrewcarlson2178 9 місяців тому +47

      They keep trying to say "well regulated" meant controlled by regulations
      It really meant well trained and drilled

    • @tactikiller
      @tactikiller 9 місяців тому +25

      @@andrewcarlson2178and equipped. A lot of people like to think the 2A only applies to guns. It applies to anything that makes the fighter more effective. From LBE’s, to chest rigs, IFAK’s, optics, even suppressors and lights.

    • @metaldave556
      @metaldave556 9 місяців тому +20

      Those minute men were total poser larpers who never served in the kings army beforehand. They wouldnt stand a chance against the trained british military, why would they even try to train to be proficient with their gear and weapons? Just a bunch of wannabes....
      (This is sarcasm)

    • @RealReaper-Fox
      @RealReaper-Fox 9 місяців тому +13

      @@metaldave556I can imagine that sentiment was probably shared in hushed voices around campfires by some British troops long long ago. Ain’t nothing new under the sun

  • @piet8803
    @piet8803 3 місяці тому +129

    Things have changed so quickly in this world. A couple of years ago most people would call someone like you crazy, but now there are millions of crazy people like us. Thanks for sharing good information on your channel.

    • @TheHonestTruth
      @TheHonestTruth 3 місяці тому

      Indeed...

    • @ImperatorCaesar22
      @ImperatorCaesar22 3 місяці тому +2

      But 60 years ago, this mentality was the norm

    • @je__.
      @je__. 3 місяці тому

      after the july 13th incident... people should think more about it

    • @paddypibblet846
      @paddypibblet846 3 місяці тому

      Hey dude, we've always existed. You just never listened. We've been on the internet since before Myspace, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Once you normies took to the Internet you pushed us out, but luckily we kept spreading the word anyway and even now the midwits, sports watchers, beer drinkers, etc are becoming educated on the realities of life.

    • @danformanek3062
      @danformanek3062 2 місяці тому +2

      Funny I use to shoot in IPPSC competitions, a lot of the old timers would say, you need 3 months of food and 2000 rounds of ammo, I thought they were nuts! Now I don’t think 2000 is enough!

  • @rocket_goblin7755
    @rocket_goblin7755 19 днів тому +2

    After working with some SF guys i have realized, in a direct head to head action you won't win against them, their tactics are like nothing the regular person has ever seen. you can read about it all you want, but actually seeing it is something else. the book Wrath of the Wendigo does a good job of summarizing how to fight them. to put it simply, you don't. if you do cause a mass casualty event that would make them think twice about deploying in any significant force.

  • @d_pete361
    @d_pete361 3 місяці тому +164

    Im one of those 5 million GWOT vets and i can assure that i will NOT be on the side of the corrupt govt.

    • @Dan-d9v
      @Dan-d9v 3 місяці тому +6

      Yes. but how many will?

    • @MrCharmz81
      @MrCharmz81 3 місяці тому +8

      Not enough Satan's Army overwhelms with numbers, but in the end they will be defeated.

    • @paddypibblet846
      @paddypibblet846 3 місяці тому

      There are 1,000,000 cops give or take in the USA, and due to only 1,000,000 armed and cohesive force of men, they keep the corrupt politicians protected and the rest of the 399,999,999 in check.

    • @lordsixxx6113
      @lordsixxx6113 2 місяці тому +1

      So, you wont vote for Trump, got it.

    • @WhitePhosphor7
      @WhitePhosphor7 2 місяці тому

      @@lordsixxx6113 ok retard with the devil profile pic

  • @michaeldubya
    @michaeldubya 3 місяці тому +126

    Former SIGINT overt and covert ops, 65 now and train daily. Fortunate enough to own a large piece of land in central ish Texas. Fully sustainable, off grid. Family, very close friends and close veteran brothers (and sisters) with various skills have the coordinates. My training taught me to seek actionable intelligence. Some say I’m a conspiracy theorist, I say I’m a seeker of the truth. Not affiliated with any political party, simply a Christian, constitutionalist and patriot. Be vigilant my friends, don’t get into a situation you cannot survive. God Bless the United States of America. Long live the Republic.

    • @foxkey319
      @foxkey319 3 місяці тому +1

      Would you be willing to sell me a small portion of land to a younger guy like me so I can build me and my woman a place to live?

    • @AIRGUNZ_MILITIA
      @AIRGUNZ_MILITIA 3 місяці тому +4

      i am 17 miles west of and 2.8 mi south of down town dallas friend.
      i am blind but i know lots of stuff.
      so i may be blind,
      but i know a few things about the big guy against the small one.
      chain reactions,
      chemicals redily available , for $50 one of these may be created,
      it will reach 7thousand degrees in 3 seconds and remain at that tempurature for another 4 seconds.
      all things within 5 feet will be turned into ash and carbon crystaline structures,
      basically that charred thing you left on the grill an hour too long, yup it will look like that.
      the chain goes like this,
      wax paper 1ft square,
      nagnetic ferrite 4oz, magnesium powder and granual 3.9oz, regular strike on box kitchen matches crushed into powder and granuals 3.9oz,
      black powder 1/2oz
      mix thouroughly. wrap wax paper and tape top so the mixture does not fall out..
      get enough bubblegum that it can cover the wax paper, that $10 container at walmart is plenty.
      cew till all sugar is out,
      make an eggshell around the wax paper and seal without cracks set in thesun to dry and harden.
      once hard get a case of percussion caps and a drill bit the smallest diameter of those perccussion caps,
      drill holes all around the sphere,
      plce caps in all holes ad make sure holes go through the wax paper.
      seal caps in with clear spray paint.
      use n52 magnets inbetween the caps to make the sphere stick to metals. the magnetic ferrite inside will keep it all together.
      keep the sphere from hitting anything hard untill it is needed.
      when needed, throw at a hard surface , a firearm is a hard surface. the floor is a hard surface,
      be more than 15ft away when it hits a hard surface or lose your eyebrows for a month,
      be more than 7 feet from where it hits or get a 3rd degree sunburn in 7 seconds,
      bbe more than 5 feet away from where it hits or else you will not be worried aboutit anymore.
      that mushroom could isnot radioactive, but it will cook your meat in a few seconds, will melt metal and turn anything conbustible into gas and ash in a second, it will instantly cauterize any thing that survives the spheres rdius of heat.
      it willend the threat of a being that can regenerate or needs to be delt with by meas oth than lead.
      it will disable an m1 abrams tank if placed in the right place.
      it will stop a humvee or striker vehicle when the fuel turns into a gas instantly within a foot of the device.
      tht big burly operative will be in such shock that his end will come in just a second and a half. all his ammunition going off rght there in the mag.
      all his buddies will be no longer a threat,
      and that is even if they unalive you and you drop thesphere at their feet as they run by...
      good luck patriots.
      this is what i call a magnetic plasma sphere.
      it cost about $50 to make one. page 17 of the alphabet guys handbook on destructive devices only covers things with more than 4 oz of ma chemical that ignites or explodes, so make sure none of you use that much of those things K.
      so that you will be completely legal with this knowledge.
      tnk you, be safe, n the sphere will not explode at all, it will melt get to a thousand degrees F in half a second, and cobntinue getting hotter until at3264 F degrees the magnetic ferrite inside becomes unstable and self ignites and then untill all the magnetic ferrite is cinsumed, it will continue to grow more hot untill reaching 7200F degrees and staying there untill no magnetic ferrite remains.
      smils, this will happen so fast that a human cannot react to it fast enough to get away.
      imyself lost my eyebrows

    • @randomtexan736
      @randomtexan736 19 днів тому

      @@michaeldubya Löyâlîsm 😡

  • @leebotx
    @leebotx 3 місяці тому +196

    Any civilian resistance to government just has to make the cost of oppression more expensive than cooperation.

    • @DDOD25
      @DDOD25 3 місяці тому +15

      This is the most sound thing i've read in this comment section. Thank you.

    • @thesayxx
      @thesayxx 3 місяці тому +8

      @@leebotx thats exactly how the IRA "negotiated" with the UK goverment during the troubles. They went after the insurance companies and their most expensive buildings. UK had to bail them out and then they decided its prefrable to negotiate with the IRA

    • @artwerks
      @artwerks 3 місяці тому +1

      right...no win for an invasion

  • @donaldmartin4980
    @donaldmartin4980 2 місяці тому +4

    I served 20 years in a combat arms MOS in the US Army , retired , subsequently did 16 years as a diplomatic security operator in Iraq and Afghanistan . Listen to this guy , he is not wrong ..

  • @IndiaEight5
    @IndiaEight5 7 місяців тому +1236

    I think Jocko was asked what he would do in a doomsday scenario, and Jocko replied, "I'm going full warlord." So yep, those operator guys on the internet you guys worship are going after you and your family.

    • @RTK_GOON
      @RTK_GOON 3 місяці тому +48

      Fuggin Facts

    • @davidgosnell5901
      @davidgosnell5901 3 місяці тому

      Nobody is bullet proof look at chris kyle many well trained soldiers were killed by farmers

    • @realWARPIG
      @realWARPIG 3 місяці тому +253

      Well Jocko was a war criminal so I am not surprised.

    • @Explicit6ixty9
      @Explicit6ixty9 3 місяці тому

      Yall scared or something?

    • @kevinblackburn3198
      @kevinblackburn3198 3 місяці тому +8

      Truth.

  • @John-uy4jx
    @John-uy4jx 3 місяці тому +419

    First rule of a fire fight: Don’t get into a goddamn fire fight.
    If there’s a SHTF scenario I’m doing everything in my power to stay away from a firefight; I’m a veteran but not combat arms. My goal is to be more of a pioneer or a woodsman and outlast everyone else; even though I train to defend myself I’m not going to go out looking for a fight.

    • @ultrasuperbro
      @ultrasuperbro 3 місяці тому +25

      I'm running with this advice.

    • @isawit9722
      @isawit9722 3 місяці тому +43

      It will eventually come looking for you

    • @logyz450
      @logyz450 3 місяці тому +48

      @@John-uy4jx That is a good philosophy to keep yourself alive for a while but sooner or later that fight will come to you.
      In your situation, the best thing you can do is help with logistics or medical aid. War fighters need supplies, food, water, and equipment. The ones who do go looking for a fight still need to eat ,sleep, and load mags. Why not help them fight but still aid in keeping the fight out of your area.

    • @Savage_Thinker
      @Savage_Thinker 3 місяці тому +6

      good that means you are sane.

    • @John-uy4jx
      @John-uy4jx 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Savage_Thinker I wouldn’t go that far.

  • @guycarrwuzright7189
    @guycarrwuzright7189 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said! Many Americans NEED TO HEAR THIS... I've read a lot of literature by former operator's and done a bit of research into what's going on in our county, so this didn't surprise me...
    Thank you for popping the "pink cloud" that so many preppers, patriots, and right of center folks have been floating on...

  • @TheRealSteveMay
    @TheRealSteveMay 3 місяці тому +332

    Having been in the Marines in the early 2010's, it is my firm opinion that the vast majority of our military personnel will follow any orders they receive.

    • @fleatactical7390
      @fleatactical7390 3 місяці тому +52

      Absolutely they will. So will the police. Assuming there isn't a catastrophe and they aren't running home to protect their families first.

    • @jcmoney4125
      @jcmoney4125 3 місяці тому +29

      That’s disappointing to hear

    • @bryanitza-chulopez1658
      @bryanitza-chulopez1658 3 місяці тому +13

      Is there a possibility of mutinies happening in each branch at a moderate scale when SHTF? Will they be able to demonstrate combat effectiveness against a larger military once they become designated OpFor insurgents?

    • @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
      @HolyNorthAmericanEmpire 3 місяці тому +12

      Was in the AF for over a decade, you're absolutely correct.

    • @Sldghmmr338
      @Sldghmmr338 3 місяці тому +17

      Remember, they have families too, and homes, remember that…

  • @xTheN8IVx
    @xTheN8IVx 9 місяців тому +104

    The underlying issue is that there will be people who will be contracted to infiltrate groups and gather info. Proper vetting is going to make or break the success of a lot of groups, so either keep your group small and lay low, or only let people you would trust beyond a doubt in. That, compounded with COMSEC.

    • @viraltikshortok1864
      @viraltikshortok1864 7 місяців тому +7

      And you think that people who make this videos and people who support this channels are not in some kind of black list??? Yes we are!! God bless America!

    • @MudlangenTango
      @MudlangenTango 3 місяці тому

      @@xTheN8IVx too late, they already have.

  • @polhokustaa4989
    @polhokustaa4989 3 місяці тому +178

    We have a saying here in Finland that goes something like this "Everybody obeys lead", meaning that no matter how tough spec ops guy you are, if you get shot in the stomach with a rifle, you are dead.

    • @Valhalla_Heathen
      @Valhalla_Heathen 2 місяці тому +4

      @@polhokustaa4989 Viva Suomi! 🇫🇮

    • @Oaksloves
      @Oaksloves 2 місяці тому

      Yeah except sof guys are chosen because they usually don’t fear death or ever give up. The cia and their sf buddies are not to be messed with, they know exactly what they’re doing, they are used to countering insurgents, they have learned from their mistakes and they have the advantage of tapping into information that they probably couldn’t have easily obtained in foreign countries. They’re probably getting details all sorts of threats with their security clearances that civilians would never have access to.

    • @synshenron798
      @synshenron798 2 місяці тому +2

      Reminds me of the heavy from TF2 "some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe.... maybe. Ive yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet."

  • @OriginalLifeLine
    @OriginalLifeLine 2 місяці тому +5

    It’s like hanging out with my uncle, 10am, shirtless, geared up, smelling like beer, and talking about the enemy.

  • @hatfieldmccoy0311
    @hatfieldmccoy0311 9 місяців тому +392

    Bro this is why I love watching you, because you speak facts. When I got out, I first went to the State Highway Patrol did the academy, the entire time I just wanted to walk, they wrre not my people, graduated and no just couldn't do it, well my mom had a patient that was a body guard for this big business guy, I mean he has sniper teams, body guards that liive on his property full time travel with him security teams all former military. She told him about me and he had me email my resume snd DD214 they looked it over and invited me up to see what all I would be doing and I was amazed. Went home and looked this guy up, he has ties with Epstein, alot of chomo accusations and just an all around piece of shit, but that is how he became super rich and got his place in life. I called the guy told him what I found and his exacywords were he didn't care sbout his personal life as long as he got paid. I couldn't do it, but some don't care about anything but money. They will do whatever. And yep there is nothing like when you see the shsdy shit right in front of your face when you are in Iraq and Afghanistan, the money floating around, kissing asses of some dirty ass warlord pieces of shit, made me go from a patriot to a cynic and opened my eyes to alot of things that didn't make sense

    • @GruntProof
      @GruntProof  9 місяців тому +47

      Dang

    • @DayXDelete
      @DayXDelete 9 місяців тому +69

      You’re still a patriot, just not for them. Life gets real when you face the uncomfortable truth that nobody wants to talk about. Keep that moral center bro, it serves you well.

    • @mwc6985
      @mwc6985 9 місяців тому +1

      That's right. Patriot did not mean fighting for there corrupt system. I have never trusted the system. If you do you are blind

    • @williambonk380
      @williambonk380 9 місяців тому +11

      Spot on amen brother money is evil so this is real how real like let’s start at 700 trillion of money to play with so help each other and learn what our four fathers had to go threw it’s history lesson number 3 coming for shore and it’s a slow moving storm this time not the fast storm good luck I have your back.

    • @DayXDelete
      @DayXDelete 9 місяців тому

      @@williambonk380 it is but unfortunately money will always sway the minds of those found wanting. It’s up to the individual. But I’d rather look myself in the mirror with a clear conscience and nothing hanging over my head. I don’t care how tough people think they are, not being able to be bought is an admirable trait a lot of people lack.

  • @CoreismRJ
    @CoreismRJ 9 місяців тому +178

    Since I was 9 years old I have been target shooting and never tactical training. Standing in one spot...plinking. Over the last 3 months I have been tactical training. Running with all my gear on. Switching between my rifle and pistol. Out of breathe, dropping on the ground, multiple targets...etc. If your still just standing and hitting targets....try it out of breathe with all your shit on.

    • @Obstacle-illusion
      @Obstacle-illusion 9 місяців тому +17

      You’re absolutely in the right there too. People don’t realize how much harder it is when you have 70+ LBS of gear on and huffing it likes it’s a COD match. Exactly why I wear full kit while playing airsoft or doing any sort of tactical training

    • @PhonkinPlants
      @PhonkinPlants 9 місяців тому +7

      For sure. Get your aim on point, once you've not missed in like 10 shots in a row, Its probably time to make it a little harder lol.
      I bought a .22 break barrel and I started training with that with the scope I use for my .300blk and after about a year of messing around shooting between 30 to 50 yards with the .22, my accuracy improved immensely, I don't sway as much. My breathing is more regulated. I can also hold a stance longer in a frozen position (not literally frozen in the open lol) if something ever were to be so serious were I couldn't take my eyes off the targe..

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 місяці тому

      where is your training against ACTUAL feds? stop LARPING.

  • @RiderZer0
    @RiderZer0 3 місяці тому +186

    A couple points I would make:
    1. For civil war to be “legal” you have to win.
    2. To win there has to be millions that are onboard, basically to the point the government would be killing their own people and not labeled domestic terrorists.
    3. Military guys vow to uphold the constitution. There would be a split. But only if the civil war is legitimate.
    If None of the above happens maybe in that order. You will get wrecked, labeled a terrorist, and either killed or locked away forever.
    Bonus points:
    1. They would rarely use ground troops. They will likely drone strike and kill one side strategically.
    2. They will put operatives in your ranks to feed information for targets.
    3. They will use everything they learned in combating guerrilla warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan against you and after 20 years of experience, they’ve gotten it down to a science.
    Things to consider for those gung ho about starting a fight.

    • @Harleyboi
      @Harleyboi 3 місяці тому +35

      The only smart one in the whole chat

    • @Anton43218
      @Anton43218 3 місяці тому +1

      "Military guys vow to uphold the constitution"
      Constitution my ass, all they care about is their paycheck.

    • @jimmyboy131
      @jimmyboy131 3 місяці тому

      "Legitimate" depends on who own the media. Almost every major event that has gone down has had its legitimacy created and propagated by the media.

    • @isolatsi
      @isolatsi 3 місяці тому +19

      It shouldn't take long for them to realize it's not worth being slaughtered over petty ideological fabrications. Whenever somebody tells you there's a problem, ask yourself if they might be using you to solve a problem of their own

    • @aaroncruz9181
      @aaroncruz9181 3 місяці тому +8

      That one Donetsk Plumber :*pipe sound*

  • @HNDSME_
    @HNDSME_ 3 місяці тому +9

    There are still minutemen 200 years later?? Thats badass.

    • @Wildcat5181
      @Wildcat5181 2 місяці тому

      They're everywhere quietly awaiting the battle they hope will never come, but if it does, well, it only hurts for a few minutes and then you go to sleep. Pick the fights you can win and fight until you die.

  • @ChrisC30
    @ChrisC30 9 місяців тому +238

    The truth of a potential threat is usually 500% scarier than our worst nightmares.

    • @seankingwell3692
      @seankingwell3692 9 місяців тому +21

      especially when people are drinking the tap water and not prepping, the fluoride is working all too well. I bet there is a correlation between prepping martial arts practicing and firearms owners, and NOT DRINKING FLOURIDATED WATER. There must be. I drink filtered, no one in my family does and they are the ones not understanding reality!!!!

    • @steveguse4481
      @steveguse4481 9 місяців тому

      ​@@seankingwell3692Berkey?

    • @Thekulprit92
      @Thekulprit92 9 місяців тому +8

      I find it the opposite, usually people imagine things worse than it really is

    • @Roughcut-69
      @Roughcut-69 9 місяців тому +3

      Veteran Navy Seabee here! AR in my squad at the ACB2 while there. I’ve always felt it better to have an not need than to need and not have! My Psychologist thinks I’m paranoid.

    • @ChrisC30
      @ChrisC30 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Roughcut-69 you're only paranoid if it doesn't happen.

  • @johnniemac173
    @johnniemac173 3 місяці тому +151

    I'm broken, man.
    My back and legs got wrecked in Ramadi in 2006.
    I got a kid and a wife to keep safe and my body and mind are a mess, and the VA hasn't helped too much in putting either back together.
    I don't know what to do when this stuff falls apart other than watch my front door with a rifle and pray.

    • @scottybear2961
      @scottybear2961 3 місяці тому +21

      You do what you can, we do what we can. Not all of us are functioning at 100%, some days 50% is doing good. But if you"re close, we'll stand together.

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому +43

      Turn to Christ and not man.
      The power of salvation through Christ is REAL.

    • @stuntcountry8488
      @stuntcountry8488 3 місяці тому +8

      Find a local community that can help or support you and you them. Find the vets who are in a similar situation and start building a relationship. The VA never helped my dad or my brother either but finding like minded people can. They are out there and are probably just waiting for someone to start the conversation. Trust me for my work I went to a different house almost everyday and many were homes of survivors just like you. They all had a story and were looking for someone to talk to. They all seemed to feel better after talking. Just an FYI. Praying for you to have strength and healing!! Thank you for your service!

    • @matthewparker7180
      @matthewparker7180 3 місяці тому +4

      Thank you for your service brother.

    • @hckr_-gh7se
      @hckr_-gh7se 3 місяці тому +11

      hey man just do what you can and focus on your space, whatever happens happens. most likely nothing substantial will happen, it'll just be a long painful decline.

  • @capzap9841
    @capzap9841 9 місяців тому +212

    I watched a documentary on the IRA once. For decades, they reaped havoc on the British military. At the most, at any time, they didn’t have more than 125 “soldiers. Usually less. One of their favorite silent weapons was a slingshot. Determination and a sense of protecting home at all cost.

    • @peted2770
      @peted2770 9 місяців тому +24

      You have an understanding of the reality. If you find yourself in a gunfight, then you have done f'd up.

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 9 місяців тому +48

      @@peted2770 As a guerilla fighter, if you find yourself in a firefight then it's because you're caught in an ambush - someone probably leaked intel heh

    • @Jeffindsm
      @Jeffindsm 9 місяців тому +6

      Basically or for the most part they bombed the “f” out of 💩
      Never really heard about skirmishes just bombings

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 9 місяців тому +4

      @@crusader.survivor I may not believe some random stranger on the internet but I absolutely believe it's possible. We [humans] are pretty badass predators ourselves heh

    • @peted2770
      @peted2770 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Jeffindsm They were one-sided affairs. Hit and runs or last stands.

  • @PK-di4vu
    @PK-di4vu 3 місяці тому +29

    At least I’m not the only one that’s trying to explain this to paintballers that think they’re going to fight off hordes from their bedroom window.

    • @BigTomInTheBasement
      @BigTomInTheBasement 2 місяці тому +2

      Paintballers get a lot of good simulated combat training. Way better than just sitting on our duffs on a couch eating cheetoes.

    • @carolinalonewolf9445
      @carolinalonewolf9445 2 місяці тому +1

      Bedroom window?.......the cave is your grave.

    • @eeddsdsd
      @eeddsdsd 2 місяці тому +2

      @@BigTomInTheBasement Paintball is not much like a firefight. Once you get outside of about 20yds paintballs are too slow and inaccurate to provide comparable results for a fight. I remember one time holding a corner that I knew the other team needed to get around to flank us. Didn't get any hits even though they presented many targets that would have been easy hits with a rifle.

    • @BigTomInTheBasement
      @BigTomInTheBasement 2 місяці тому +1

      @@eeddsdsd ok. Maybe the gear you were using didn't have the range. The airsoft gear is good too. The tactics and maneuvers are still valid.

  • @outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078
    @outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 9 місяців тому +117

    Nope, I know my reality. I'm old and my body is broken, I can't run with the big dogs. So, I will sit my ass on the porch and make guys like Randall here, some good strong coffee or whatever else I can do to help them. Other than that, about all I've got is crosshairs. I can't use them as good as some, but I can use them better than most. There's a lot more to me than just that, but the point is, if/when it comes right down to it, I'm going to do what I can to help.

    • @GruntProof
      @GruntProof  9 місяців тому +39

      All patriots are useful 💪🏻

    • @ronhanks4610
      @ronhanks4610 9 місяців тому +12

      I’m with you on this, I can’t run like I used to, but I will do whatever I can to protect our country. Stay safe and frosty everyone.

    • @slapoutindixie7537
      @slapoutindixie7537 9 місяців тому +8

      And that my friend is what will make taking over the common folks so hard… I think most Americans have the same grit as you… I know I do👍

    • @outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078
      @outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 9 місяців тому +3

      @@GruntProof Strength in numbers!! 💪

  • @samtatge8299
    @samtatge8299 3 місяці тому +107

    I’m 62 my back and shoulders are destroyed from a lifetime of manual labor. I honestly have no idea what I’d do in shtf.
    This video sobered me up.

    • @RonaldColeman-ef2rc
      @RonaldColeman-ef2rc 3 місяці тому +15

      What matters is a will to fight. Not afraid to die. 50 and 60 year old guys who don’t give a flip with combat experience.

    • @latigomorgan
      @latigomorgan 3 місяці тому +1

      There are lots of things an old guy can do. Your greatest advantage is people ignore old people. You can restock food and ammo caches; gather intel; win hearts and minds; man a safe house; and many, many other things that free up the young studs and make their job easier. You are really only limited by your imagination.

    • @Andre-qo5ek
      @Andre-qo5ek 3 місяці тому +1

      the most important thing is community. build and foster a good community to be insulated from hard times. do not isolate from cooperation. do not become an individualist. being in individualist can only get you as far as survival not thriving.

    • @latigomorgan
      @latigomorgan 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Andre-qo5ek One of the worst tricks pulled on Liberty-minded Americans is the myth of the "rugged individualist" being responsible for taming the Frontier. The rugged individualist died alone, surrounded by enemies or wracked by disease more often than not. Build tribe. Build community.

  • @adamtedder1012
    @adamtedder1012 3 місяці тому +136

    Got a whole gen of veterans who were operators. That said most of us won't act against our own people. And some of us will act against the ones who would.

    • @JOEL00111
      @JOEL00111 3 місяці тому +18

      @adamtedder1012 the younger generation doesn't have a moral compass. You can say they're punks and they're nothing to fear, but they'll come in numbers and they're young and will learn from their mistakes. The older generation that still believes in our constitution republic are dying off...

    • @adamtedder1012
      @adamtedder1012 3 місяці тому +5

      @JOEL00111 nah. Nobody who fought in the wars is young. I'm 40 and I was 17 when I entered service, turned 19 while invading Iraq. Combat ops for the most part, ended in 07 in Iraq and 2014ish in Afghanistan. That means your actually saw combat vets are 30's and up.

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому +1

      What about the ones who do. What do you call them? Gang stalkers? Is that how this is happening?

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому

      @@adamtedder1012 Jeffrey insight on the gangstalking epidemic in this country?
      What is up with all these Chivatos?

    • @romeo162006
      @romeo162006 3 місяці тому

      Personally, I think they are gonna be surprised at how many operate north of Virginia when they are told to into the woods instead.

  • @gregmiller9437
    @gregmiller9437 Місяць тому +1

    100% gospel. Former active duty USMC grunt here. Grunts get briefed, believe what they're told, and look forward to a conflict. All they need is to hear you are a bad guy from someone telling them to go fight.

  • @GT95_302
    @GT95_302 9 місяців тому +154

    And if you think you’re going to hide out in the standard American home, that sheet rock and siding ain’t stopping nothing.

    • @Blazerghost
      @Blazerghost 9 місяців тому +23

      Same goes for vehicles

    • @stillcantbesilencedevennow
      @stillcantbesilencedevennow 8 місяців тому +12

      Look at Ukraine to see how buildings fare during war.

    • @TheCastedone
      @TheCastedone 8 місяців тому

      Facts.

    • @richperdue9344
      @richperdue9344 6 місяців тому +13

      It will be bloody since there is no place to hide. I've often thought about that. Looking around for a bullet proof hide & can't find any.

    • @jamesofsandiego
      @jamesofsandiego 3 місяці тому +10

      @@stillcantbesilencedevennow "Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man" General George S. Patton

  • @wolfedaniel1
    @wolfedaniel1 3 місяці тому +83

    In Afghanistan my dudes and I lived on patrol bases in the korengal and pesch river valleys and no one gave two f's about uniform or drill discipline or hands or smoking doing anything- as long as you and your gear were mission ready for the next mountain patrol. Our patrol bases were tiny with no running water, showers, laundry, air-conditioning or heat. Once a month we'd go back to a small fob (asadabad) to refit, get showers and wash our stiff uniforms. Everyone there knew not to bother us about appearances or discipline. One time i had just got into asadabad and went straight to the chow hall and a visiting officer started to dress me down over my appearance and I just stared him down and just as he was about to go get help the rest of my squad came in looking the same way and he finally realized and walked away.

  • @Bear-kb4kt
    @Bear-kb4kt 9 місяців тому +65

    Tech is important too
    A thermal drone is a godsend and provides eyes in the sky

    • @NSA_test_server_59274
      @NSA_test_server_59274 8 місяців тому +7

      Us gov will drop anything using the comm bandwidths for known uav equipment if theres a domestic conflict. Freq hopping is the only way, but thats not exactly diy tech. It is technically but not easy

    • @tackytrooper
      @tackytrooper 3 місяці тому +9

      Don't worry about using drones, as the other guy said, the gov will render most of that stuff useless. Worry about their drones, and evading them. That will be the biggest threat you face, moreso even than any of these contract operator guys, of which there will not be enough to go around.

  • @svenjalikesme
    @svenjalikesme 2 місяці тому +2

    Shit my plan has been to put myself on that list so I can force whoever is spying on me to watch independent media sources with me as to face our current reality together. It feels like dragging a horse to water but seems worth a try. Thank you brother, glad to support your channel as of just now because I'm sure this should help me achieve this goal.

  • @survivaldoggy
    @survivaldoggy 9 місяців тому +154

    I'm one of those rightwing militia mountain men.
    I have put myself out there for 15 years now.
    Looking back I'm not sure it was worth it. People that have known me for 40 years now call me racist among other ridiculous things, because cnn and govenor witler said so.
    I guess all i can do is train and pray God makes me faster and harder.
    Thanks for this video.
    Whats your opinion on the bill to ban on militia training.
    God bless have a great day.

    • @SamSung-jn5fi
      @SamSung-jn5fi 9 місяців тому +51

      They call you the R word, but they never call you 'wrong'.
      🤷‍♂️

    • @RighteousJ
      @RighteousJ 9 місяців тому

      There's nothing wrong with being racist.
      Racism is the understanding that all stereotypes have a basis in reality, and the law of averages applies in all things.
      Being racist doesn't require you to actively harm anyone else, either. All it is, is admitting that objective reality exists. What they're doing by using that word the way they do is making a thinly-veiled attempt at making you police your own thoughts on their behalf; it's mind control.
      Because of its very nature as a mind control tactic, it's no wonder that literal Communists invented the word for the express purpose of leveraging it the way these people do on a daily basis.
      When someone calls me racist, I laugh and thank them for noticing; they generally have no idea what to do with that once they realize they have no power over me.
      Granted, it also helps that this platform is literally the extent of any/all social media I use. When you're an internet "ghost" there's nothing they can do to harm you in any way.

    • @survivaldoggy
      @survivaldoggy 9 місяців тому +8

      @@SamSung-jn5fi Amen to that!

    • @rkba4923
      @rkba4923 9 місяців тому +7

      Congress has no enumerated power to destroy/infringe/abridge the militia, only, "To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining," them; and, "To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and REPEL INVASIONS." [emphasis mine] - NOT prevent execution of the laws nor aid in invasions!

    • @PatAdams-c6u
      @PatAdams-c6u 9 місяців тому

      I have the same problem. I don’t hate anyone but i get called a racist quite often because i don’t agree with the left. Fuck em. Let them think what they want. As far as the government outlawing training and militias, read the second amendment. Not only does it protect your right to bear arms, but also protects your right to organize into a militia.

  • @pnz6ausfj779
    @pnz6ausfj779 3 місяці тому +138

    Me with a track suit , a chiappa little badger and pockets full of .22lr “I’ll be aight”

    • @Michaelfatman-xo7gv
      @Michaelfatman-xo7gv 3 місяці тому +24

      Puma or Adidas? Stripes or not? These are the questions that matter.

    • @PBerBlueCobra
      @PBerBlueCobra 3 місяці тому +21

      @@Michaelfatman-xo7gv stripes or nothing. до свидания

    • @joshlowman9540
      @joshlowman9540 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Michaelfatman-xo7gv Puma without a doubt and stripes all the way.

    • @Vincent_Boogaloo
      @Vincent_Boogaloo 2 місяці тому +3

      Adidas tracksuit + balaclava ftw.

    • @pnz6ausfj779
      @pnz6ausfj779 Місяць тому

      @@Michaelfatman-xo7gv always three stripe

  • @SilverShamrockNovelties
    @SilverShamrockNovelties 9 місяців тому +60

    I’ve only said this on my channel about 200 times. Thankfully, you have a broader audience than I do, so I appreciate you echoing it.

  • @Think444Yourself
    @Think444Yourself 2 місяці тому +3

    I know things have been tough for a while, and it feels like we're all more divided than ever. But this mindset of constant conflict is a lose-lose for everyone. Life is meant to be lived and enjoyed, because in the end, we all share the same fate. Let's focus on giving our children the chance to live full, meaningful lives without the burdens of unnecessary conflict and negativity.

  • @steviewolfeofficial
    @steviewolfeofficial 3 місяці тому +38

    You're the first guy I've ever seen on this ENTIRE platform that actually tells it like it is. Good on you man.

  • @fadingdimension
    @fadingdimension 3 місяці тому +93

    More likely this; You are hiding in the woods, mountains, or desert. There are aerial ISR operations in your AO. A drone equipped with FLIR spots your glowing silhouette. You are tracked by a systems operator as he reports your location, description, and demeanor. "I have a fighting age male, armed with a rifle, inside known terrorist AO, moving tactically and evasively". Inside a command center the staff scrutinize the drones feed on a large display. Some back and forth chatter crosses an encrypted frequency. At last, the command "Cleared Hot" is issued.

    • @CHA-CHA-
      @CHA-CHA- 3 місяці тому +1

      What is cleared hot mean

    • @fadingdimension
      @fadingdimension 3 місяці тому +27

      ​@@CHA-CHA- "you have permission to engage"

    • @CHA-CHA-
      @CHA-CHA- 3 місяці тому

      @@fadingdimension thank you

    • @JoshuaTree-u5w
      @JoshuaTree-u5w 3 місяці тому +13

      @@CHA-CHA-hot like when the barrel of a weapon system heats up because ordinance is fired.
      Cleared hot means shoot it. Destroy it.

    • @CHA-CHA-
      @CHA-CHA- 3 місяці тому

      @@JoshuaTree-u5w thank you 😊

  • @Tiberium_Tiger
    @Tiberium_Tiger 3 місяці тому +72

    The crows in the background as he’s talking about this ominous shit is cinematic

  • @AlfredeBlome-df3sg
    @AlfredeBlome-df3sg 3 місяці тому +39

    Soldier of Fortune fights for money
    Minuteman fights for home, family, and country... My money's on the Minuteman

    • @hambone950
      @hambone950 3 місяці тому +6

      money is only good when its worth something

    • @GodsDumbLamb
      @GodsDumbLamb 14 днів тому

      Theres no angels in the outfield. Minuteman dont mean shit if they cant rock and roll. The US only won the Revolutionary War when it organized and turned into a fighting force.

  • @prism223
    @prism223 9 місяців тому +46

    On top of having the body of an operator, having the mind of an operator is crucial. Not only do you gain the strengths, but you understand the weaknesses.

  • @davidclark5497
    @davidclark5497 3 місяці тому +39

    I'm a retired SFC. I served as a Ranger in 1st Bat and squad leader in all type infantry units. Taught at the Infantry School for a decade. I've said much the same thing for years to various prepper groups. I can't ruck or run like I used to. But I'm glad to work logistics.

    • @Eman-vp5wk
      @Eman-vp5wk 3 місяці тому +1

      Do you have any insight on the gangstalking epidemic in this country?

    • @PenguinsFlying417
      @PenguinsFlying417 3 місяці тому +1

      Guarantee that if civil war breaks out the vast majority of military personnel will not kill fellow and innocent Americans. It’d never be the entire weight of the U.S. military on the entire civilian population.
      Even if that were the case - roughly 2 million personnel exist. With close to half being reserve. The vast majority of them are not combat personnel whether infantry special operations or whatever. I’ll be generous and say for this hypothetical about a quarter of that 2 million if even have any sort of combat training.
      US population is near 333 million. Roughly 5 guns to every house hold - the let’s say it’s GOP vs DNC with the military on the side of the DNC. DNC don’t like guns. So let’s say all those households were GOP specific - that’s 166 million and 10 guns to every household - the military would need to have about a 1:83 kd ratio against HEAVILY armed combatants. That’s assuming all 2 million personnel were fighting.
      1:332 KD ratio for combat roles assuming 500,000 combat personnel(which I doubt there is just being generous)
      1:664 if at least half of the military defected and assuming none of the defectors joined the opposing side
      And finally with a quick google search estimating 70k special operations personnel (which again not all are boots on the ground but assuming they were)
      They’d need to have about a 1:2371 kd.
      Let’s say they only need to wipe out half of that to achieve total victory in a civil war. That’s 1:1186.
      Now, let’s use your example of the “at least 2% will be blood thirst contract killer seals” - well - I’ll be using 2% of 70k for this example, but - there are no where near 70k tier 1 operators, I don’t think any source will be accurate for how many there are but I promise you it is not 70k. Probably not even 20k.
      Anyways - 2% of 70k = 1400
      - for each contract operator that gives 0 shits about anything about money - it would be a 1:118,571.
      Let’s say 1/8 of the 166 million (half the country) was the fighting force in the hypothetical civil war.
      That’s 20,750,000.
      That’s still 1:14821. The highest confirmed kill count in the entire history of the country was 2,746. Using a tank. Completely not suitable for a civil war in the U.S. in today’s era, but let’s entertain that.
      Say - all 1,400 had a minimum kill count of 2,746 - that’s 3,844,400. Barely a dent in 20,750,000. There’s no way that these contract seals will each have their own tank and crew - let alone kill that many. I’d say maybe a couple hundred tops per individual.
      1/16 of the 166,000,000 = 10,375,000.
      10,375,000 - 3,844,400 = 6,530,600
      Now
      Let’s use a more probable and fair estimate of this hypothetical civil war using 1/16 of 1/2 of the country with some Chris Kyle numbers. Let’s go with his estimate of 340 something kills (most unconfirmed) this would leave us at a 1:30,514 contract killer versus boog bois. That’s about 13x as much as the most recorded kills ever - 2,746.
      Bottom line is - no - these people are not Gods. They will never individually kill 30k people. They will not “fuck all of our shit up” they may shoot and kill your buds Jimmy and Steve, and maybe a couple Tom’s, but they will all go down extraordinarily quickly when the numbers are as stacked against them as they are.
      So no friend, I’m not worried about the

  • @Yukimaru0
    @Yukimaru0 3 місяці тому +121

    People also forget that in the event of a full blown civil war that the military itself is very likely also split and will spend some amount of time fighting itself.

    • @majormarketing6552
      @majormarketing6552 2 місяці тому +1

      The left has the federal reserve and can print money forever buying every mercenary they want. Also china pays off most of the left leaders so they would have full intel of battle locations of both sides. Could sweep us on the cheap

    • @eyes2c..519
      @eyes2c..519 2 місяці тому

      When covid hit the sheriff's in appalchia got w citizens cuz they were pressing hard again trying to scheme again on taking our guns they mentioned tht and we formed militias tht day w the good ole boys in rural appalchia and thru the south it was epic do I trust it nope but atleasy it's hope in it

    • @randallshulsen69
      @randallshulsen69 Місяць тому +1

      @@Yukimaru0 yep

    • @prettyboyjeremy
      @prettyboyjeremy Місяць тому +1

      @@Yukimaru0 If anything I feel the war will be Navy and Army vs Marines, Ex- Navy, Ex coast guard

    • @Iron_Dragon999
      @Iron_Dragon999 Місяць тому +1

      @@prettyboyjeremywhich side do you think they would be on tho like navy fights for civilians or the opposite

  • @Official_AFT
    @Official_AFT 9 місяців тому +33

    What everyone keeps forgetting is that our military and many other nations' militarys rely heavily on the civilian production industry. It would be a war of attrition if not total deflection on the part of many indistries that our goverment relys on for curcial logistics and resupply, in mincraft of course.

    • @Opachki69420
      @Opachki69420 9 місяців тому

      Thats why they plan on siezing the means of production to use against us

    • @davidbell1619
      @davidbell1619 3 місяці тому +1

      @Official_AFT
      The military/goverment makes nothing. Us faceless nobodies makes it all.

  • @TimB0B_6152
    @TimB0B_6152 4 місяці тому +81

    TRAIN like it matters, STUDY tactics and theory, PRACTICE like a professional, ACT like an adult, DRESS like a respectable human - and you'll be prepared for anything and you'll be deadly and unsuspecting

    • @aaftiyoDkcdicurak
      @aaftiyoDkcdicurak 3 місяці тому +4

      Don't worry about looking badass if you're not focused on being badass.

  • @OneBigLeftist-pq4je
    @OneBigLeftist-pq4je 3 місяці тому +274

    I think it will be those military aged dudes coming in across the border.

    • @A-AronWWG1WGA
      @A-AronWWG1WGA 3 місяці тому +32

      think ? No is going to be them

    • @keyeduncan-yl7eg
      @keyeduncan-yl7eg 3 місяці тому +14

      Bingo

    • @behindthelinemedia3697
      @behindthelinemedia3697 3 місяці тому

      "You want citizenship? Then go fight muh domestic terrorists"

    • @innawoods.larper
      @innawoods.larper 3 місяці тому +13

      Read the book Turner Diaries

    • @300thNPC
      @300thNPC 3 місяці тому +11

      Cap. Your neighbors are gonna be the ones kicking in your door

  • @johnhodgdon2434
    @johnhodgdon2434 2 місяці тому +4

    No he's right, they will also have hardened criminals I am sure, this would actually be a serious fight, people need to take it seriously.

  • @texasaggie8449
    @texasaggie8449 3 місяці тому +66

    There are about 16 M hunting licenses sold every year. Many of those hunters sit in a stand /hide and basically snipe their prey. That means we have millions of snipers. Granted we typically don’t shoot beyond 500 yards but I have taken elk at 500 yards. Hard for an operator to sneak up on that.

    • @MrLandslide84
      @MrLandslide84 3 місяці тому +35

      Air support ends all that. One drone with thermals.

    • @jonahsymes4060
      @jonahsymes4060 3 місяці тому +8

      @@MrLandslide84 very valid point

    • @cliffords2315
      @cliffords2315 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MrLandslide84 IT all depends who the next President is, two different senarios

    • @THEJohnSmith1607
      @THEJohnSmith1607 3 місяці тому +14

      @MrLandslide84 one emergency blanket voids all thermal optics.

    • @peacefulwarrior4078
      @peacefulwarrior4078 3 місяці тому

      Just remember that a simple country like AFGHANISTAN
      has NEVER BEEN CONQUERED by any invading
      LOW TECH/HIGH TECH ARMIES
      THE most dangerous animals are ones that are cornered with NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE BUT THEIR LIVES ...

  • @oldsoldier181
    @oldsoldier181 9 місяців тому +52

    Younger me, I was a trigger puller. Older me (14 years as a grunt, and, well, just hard living after that), I had to refocus my priorities. Now, I am comms-I play ham radio every day :)

    • @WhiteWolfeHU
      @WhiteWolfeHU 9 місяців тому +6

      I guess I would be cooking the food at base 😅

    • @cwr8618
      @cwr8618 9 місяців тому +4

      @@rudegarami6738 that sounds like it hurts

  • @An2oine
    @An2oine 3 місяці тому +45

    The worst way to die in a gunfight, is to die from lack of shooting back.

  • @Halfsplitbrain
    @Halfsplitbrain 3 місяці тому +2

    As someone who would probably be considered your enemy in a civil war in a completely different type of conflict scenario, this is video is really good at getting educating people on what your foe’s “gov” would be. Paid mercs definitely everywhere. Non conventional guerrilla tactics are the way to go against mercs and military forces with superior weapons. Hopefully though non of these scenarios actually become our reality.

  • @rogercpate4386
    @rogercpate4386 9 місяців тому +63

    100% Real deal, Randall. I'm more than a little out of shape. After seeing some of your videos esp, the rucking and on other sites, got to me to thinking, so got off my duff and started walking like you said in the rucking vids. I know I don't have a great chance of surviving through what is certainly coming but I've decided I ain't gonna be low fruit on tree. Thank you for the eye opener.

    • @GruntProof
      @GruntProof  9 місяців тому +17

      💪🏻

    • @andrewcarlson2178
      @andrewcarlson2178 9 місяців тому

      Watch the Ukraine war. The Russians have a drone operator that is at over a 250 body count. It's also why I disagree to a certain extent with the diversity higher in blue haired comment in the video. They'll have these video game kids drone bombing us and acting like it's Call of Duty

  • @jeggshutzel1233
    @jeggshutzel1233 3 місяці тому +60

    You're forgetting about the other 13,000,000 combat vets walking the streets today who are supporters of the cause. Those are the ones WE are training with, and most WERE operators...

    • @paddypibblet846
      @paddypibblet846 3 місяці тому

      There aren't 13,000,000 combat vets dude. Lol. And definitely none of them with actual experience. And even LESS of them operators. If these numbers were real Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't exist today.

    • @jeggshutzel1233
      @jeggshutzel1233 3 місяці тому

      @@paddypibblet846 every vet from the gulf War to present who were deployed... Bet. I didnt say operators. I said COMBAT VETS. Russia fought the Afghans for over 12 years, and didn't gain a fucking inch. You're pretty arrogant to think tge US Military is all mighty, bud. Look at Vietnam. A bunch of third world rice farmers held the fucking world at Bay for over 25 years, and the day we pulled out, they were overran with communism. Our military isn't shit compared to those Vietnam vets... We aren't nearly as bad ass as everyone wants to think. Half of the current military doesn't even know which latrine to use. Now, before you open your dick skinner again, know that I spent 22 years, 7 months, and 16 days in, and retired in 2005.

    • @jeggshutzel1233
      @jeggshutzel1233 3 місяці тому +3

      @@paddypibblet846 ... Arrogance... Pure arrogance

    • @paddypibblet846
      @paddypibblet846 3 місяці тому

      @@jeggshutzel1233 It's called basic statistics. Look it up bozo. You think there's 13,000,000 million ex operators all with combat experience living in the USA currently? Check the percentages of how many soldiers exist currently, and then check to see how many of those are from a combat arms MOS

    • @jeggshutzel1233
      @jeggshutzel1233 3 місяці тому

      @@paddypibblet846 ... www.data.va.gov/stories/s/Veterans-Day-2023/4gqv-ddx7/#:~:text=This%20Veterans%20Day%2C%20we%20explore,in%20FY%202023%20(2).

  • @isaiahpineda2479
    @isaiahpineda2479 3 місяці тому +57

    This guy is straight up listing all of our enemies in a civil war just like the MEDAL OF HONOR AIRBORNE LOADING SCREENS

  • @josegutierrez8318
    @josegutierrez8318 9 місяців тому +122

    There will always be "turds" who's loyalty lies with money and not country. During my 25 yr in the Corps, I watched a ton of good Marines leave for the very contractor jobs you speak of. Our fighting units were hurting because all the experience, just up and left for money.
    As a Marine with 25 years of infantry experience, I will fight for America; my oath has not expired.
    Rest assured, I will be right next to you my brother!

    • @bobdublin825
      @bobdublin825 9 місяців тому +14

      I wouldn’t fight for our politicians

    • @bannedfordays.5101
      @bannedfordays.5101 9 місяців тому +5

      You have to have National pride for that, but that's "racist," lol.

    • @jimketchum3169
      @jimketchum3169 8 місяців тому

      ​@@bannedfordays.5101You sure you're not autistic?😝

    • @stillcantbesilencedevennow
      @stillcantbesilencedevennow 8 місяців тому +8

      Nah. I left because I can't stand the pony show. Watched an e7 get a bronze star (no V device) for watching locals put up a DFAC. Helped pull our asses out of multiple fubar situations and I got a WHOLE coin. F*CK the current military.

    • @lithium1770
      @lithium1770 7 місяців тому

      dude most of those contractors are the same as the normal dudes. They aren't evil.

  • @boisebadboy93
    @boisebadboy93 27 днів тому +2

    You brought up a very good point that I never considered, the federal government hiring mercenaries to fight in a civil war. They totally would do that. They have always needed people to do horrible things with deniability. Just look at Blackwater and Wagner

  • @paulsturgill8848
    @paulsturgill8848 9 місяців тому +74

    Good shit. When they come, they come. I won't surrender, I won't die on my knees! These contract chasers ARE NOT invincible!

    • @JohnSmith-rw6vo
      @JohnSmith-rw6vo 9 місяців тому

      That's what I've been trying to tell people. The "government" or the "military" isn't some magical force. They are organizations of people just like you or me. They live, breathe, and bleed just like any human. They are just as fragile as any other human. They die just as easily when shot in the face.

    • @paulsturgill8848
      @paulsturgill8848 7 місяців тому +7

      @@patrickbateman312 OK Patty

    • @Ryeandr
      @Ryeandr 6 місяців тому +1

      @@patrickbateman312bro thinks he is Patrick Bateman sigma

    • @Ryeandr
      @Ryeandr 6 місяців тому

      @@patrickbateman312 you are the one with a movie character as their pfp. And you are acting like him. You act like an adult. You are acting autistic

    • @Johnzen03
      @Johnzen03 3 місяці тому +8

      @@paulsturgill8848 but he’s 100% right. Every man has weakness. As long as you are willing to fight and die then any enemy will suffer casualties.

  • @stuntcountry8488
    @stuntcountry8488 3 місяці тому +17

    I came to a similar realization when talking to someone who serves. He reaches out to combatants from long distance while not being seen. He is been on QRF numerous times for numerous reasons. The one of the most eye opening was about the Texas National Guard protecting the border. He mentioned he could have been deployed to go against them when Biden was telling Texas to back off from the border. So I can see where this would happen and he is right some will just flip the switch and others will not but it would happen. House to house would be an unattainable situation like Iraq and Afghanistan as many have stated but the government has the air, airwaves, electrical grids, water source and food supplies. They could make it real bad for the majority of the US we have seen that already and to the few who would go down fighting Virtūs et Honos! Thank you all who served and serve I personally will always be grateful!! God Bless!!

  • @stevenbrown5210
    @stevenbrown5210 3 місяці тому +92

    I can't wear a tactical vest without a shirt, it irritates my nipples

    • @jjr929
      @jjr929 3 місяці тому

      Soft Nipple Having ….. that makes two of us

    • @Blurredborderlines
      @Blurredborderlines 3 місяці тому

      Band aid those nips and quit bitching

    • @michaeltaylor4984
      @michaeltaylor4984 3 місяці тому +36

      Nurse a few babies, it'll toughen them up for you

    • @shagakhan9442
      @shagakhan9442 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@michaeltaylor4984 lmao

    • @johndubose1395
      @johndubose1395 3 місяці тому +2

      too much information

  • @brianrobinson8389
    @brianrobinson8389 20 днів тому +1

    Cool description of veterans while drinking your Miller Lite, bro.

  • @rambamish
    @rambamish 3 місяці тому +135

    Time to learn how to fly drones, yall.

    • @Yummyfood-bz6xf
      @Yummyfood-bz6xf 3 місяці тому +14

      @@rambamish oh and also learn how electronics work as well and maybe some engineering skills and before you know it, you’ll be making “toys” made of pvc pipes with balsa wood powered by a propeller with some “nitrate”

    • @rambamish
      @rambamish 3 місяці тому +8

      @Yummyfood-bz6xf I'm assuming you're talking about spicy fleshlights.

    • @Yummyfood-bz6xf
      @Yummyfood-bz6xf 3 місяці тому +3

      @@rambamish yup

    • @aaroncruz9181
      @aaroncruz9181 3 місяці тому +5

      @@rambamish
      I best recommend the DJI mavic drones :
      These were the first drones that Ukrainians used to destroy Russian tanks, so it's already been tested on combat,they're the best around here.
      Mainstream Media will never tell you that it's a Chinese Company and that they own most of the FPV drone market share.
      Unfortunately they've been blacklisted for providing Russia the very same drones, forcing Dji to cancel and ban orders from both these countries as they don't want to end up like Huawei.

    • @aaroncruz9181
      @aaroncruz9181 3 місяці тому +5

      Or buy a dji drone from Temu 💀

  • @AnyDayNow360
    @AnyDayNow360 9 місяців тому +16

    I've seen your channel around and enjoyed some of those videos. This earned a sub for being the realist, down to earth talk I've heard in some time.

  • @chasehartranft7414
    @chasehartranft7414 3 місяці тому +40

    Most guys don’t realize how many rounds they will go through in suppressing fire

    • @crackshack2
      @crackshack2 3 місяці тому +2

      You can never have enough ammunition in a fight.

  • @thesanfranciscoseahorse473
    @thesanfranciscoseahorse473 2 місяці тому +12

    Just food for thought... I have met guys who were actually prepping, to rob preppers in a SHTF situation.
    I asked them why they don't just prep on their own? I was told (paraphrased) "why should I store/prep stuff when I can just take it from someone who already did the work for me?". These people are buying ARs. They exist.
    Don't underestimate an enemy combatant with a gun in a war by thinking they're harmless cuz they've got neon green hair dye.

    • @AshleyKacz
      @AshleyKacz 2 місяці тому +4

      @@thesanfranciscoseahorse473 there's a large amount of people that have been waiting and wanting something like this to happen.

    • @jeremiahdonaldson1678
      @jeremiahdonaldson1678 2 місяці тому

      That's exactly what I tell people will happen to their hoard of guns, ammo, and food if something really went down and why there's no reason to stockpile too much. A lot of people are making a serious error in thinking there would only be two sides. In reality, there will be like 50+ sides and the guys that try robbing people will be in turn ambushed by someone else who will in turn be fooled by someone else who will be in turn burnt out by someone else and so on.

    • @rochte
      @rochte 2 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/WvZ-yGBJXNk/v-deo.htmlsi=AzKudSDETsWJZS9F

    • @prettyboyjeremy
      @prettyboyjeremy Місяць тому +1

      What's the difference between getting hit in the neck by a green hair or a green beret? Nothing.

  • @lamontbarrett8989
    @lamontbarrett8989 9 місяців тому +15

    Every man has to carry his own weight. The more we sweat training, the less we bleed fighting. Diplomacy is the best route but when that fails you must be seriously prepared to defend your family

  • @brohansolo4122
    @brohansolo4122 3 місяці тому +34

    Yea man you ain’t kiddin. And it’s a horrifying reality. The amount of tactical and logistical support we would be working against is unbelievable

    • @MisbehavedLiberty
      @MisbehavedLiberty 3 місяці тому +3

      That’s why you target the logistical support. Can’t get the guy in the field? Get his family, get the truck driver moving supplies, get the clerk processing his pay check, get the mechanic maintaining the fleet, get the contractors building the temporary housing, get the workers running the chow hall

    • @nb117
      @nb117 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MisbehavedLibertyexactly. Hit and run.

    • @Wildcat5181
      @Wildcat5181 2 місяці тому +1

      Every weapon in service can be operated by veterans. In the movies, they bypass endless dead enemy's equipment. In reality, the weapon that was fired at you can fire at them. If I'm running low on ammo, I'm picking up somebody else's and continuing the fight.

    • @prettyboyjeremy
      @prettyboyjeremy Місяць тому +2

      ​@@MisbehavedLibertyHonestly you'll do more damage just taking out the pay people than making full assaults.

  • @starboy3735
    @starboy3735 3 місяці тому +29

    something that people should look into if they want to be effective in conflict with an overmatch force such as the us military, is thermal evasion. thermal evasion is going to be important. look into thermal resistant clothing, methods of covering your thermal signature with mud and water. drone detection, learn the sounds of them, because once the eye or sauron has you, it could be over for you if you cant run hard and long.

    • @Technie87
      @Technie87 3 місяці тому +1

      There is no thermal evasion. Real life whoever beats you to detection is putting a hole in you

    • @HenrikSherwood
      @HenrikSherwood 3 місяці тому +2

      Mud doesn't help against thermals

    • @starboy3735
      @starboy3735 3 місяці тому

      @@HenrikSherwood ua-cam.com/video/GoqsBQYM4lY/v-deo.htmlsi=jKcXtyyjNF1nW0N4

    • @starboy3735
      @starboy3735 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Technie87 if you think you cant hide from thermals then you dont understand thermals

    • @Technie87
      @Technie87 3 місяці тому

      @@starboy3735 Okay big boi let me take a rifle w a thermal on it and lets take to the mountains at dusk. Well see how good you are at hiding

  • @felixdzerjinsky5244
    @felixdzerjinsky5244 Місяць тому +2

    During the Winter of 1976/77 I fought in the Angolan Civil War for UNITA. We fought as a company strength guerilla unit consisting of European and about 75% indigenous troops. We were moving constantly, dodging Hinds and the occasional motorized Government (FAPLA) and Cuban troops, while at the same time trying to set ambushes and raids to prevent them from establishing forward command and communication bases. The locals were pretty much pro Savimbi and we got lots of current information from them. From taking part in this, I learned that inserting yourself into someone else's civil war is not the best of plans. Their civil war was mind numbingly brutal. I saw and did shit that I would pay money to not remember, of course we all know that it doesn't work that way. The Angolan Civil War went on continuously for 27 years. It makes me wonder how long ours would go on for............and what the end result would be.