I love this guy. He breaks things down to the lowest common denominator. Talks logic and just makes sense. At least to me. I’ll buy stuff at Reds just to keep hearing his tips . Kudos man 👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I never thought about this but it makes so much sense. You really do make great videos about things I never hear anyone else talk about. Would love to support your shop from CO!
Hey, Joe! Great info! May I ask you to please explain all the different lens colors and benefits of those colors on polarized sunglasses in a video? Thanks, man
Cool video! Curious if you’ve tried the Ghosttec indicator? Just grabbed some, haven’t fished them yet but I think they might be awesome, and adaptable.
Great review Joe. I also use a piece of foam cut from a swim noodle. I can oversize it and then trim it back to dial in the drift. Yellow works best for sunny days and low light and orange for cloudy days.
I've been indicator fishing for a billion years and never thought about the way that a bobber would drag my fly. Thanks for that tip. A tip for fishing with yarn: take the hook part of a velcro pad and stick it to something like a pair of nippers. Works well for yarn indicators and poly wing dry flies and you're never looking for that darn comb that "you know I've got it somewhere."
Thank you for sharing your insight. Could you possibly talk about indicators for those of us who use a drop shot system, like Kelly Gallop’s, with the weight at the bottom and unweighted nymphs. Thanks in advance!
Yes for a Drop Shot rig, I'll typically use a 3/4" Thingamabobber for most rigs unless it's super swift and I'm running big Salmon Fly nymphs at which point I'll run a 1" er.
I do a lot of sight fishing in gin clear tail water fisheries with midges. I make little indicators by nail knotting pieces of orange rubber legs (fly tying material) onto my leader. It works really well.
Red's Fly Shop, they will only float with light unweighted midges fished just below the film. With weighted flies they will sink but in clear water you can still track the indicator. When fishing with weighted flies I place the indicator close to the fly 6-8 inches away. It works well for me.
I wish I would have seen this a few weeks ago. This past winter I purchased the NZ and was frustrated using it a few weeks ago. The water was fast and when I would mend my line the indicator would go under and not resurface. I switched to a really small thingamabobber and it worked much better.
Good feedback, nice audible on the indicator. The NZ rigs take a while to figure out much they will take and getting them setup just right with the perfect amount of yarn vs. floatant.
Hi, just a reminder to read the local regulations as some trout waters ban the use of “thingmibobs”. When nymphing with a 9 foot rod and a 12 foot leader you really need a small wool indicator to pass through your guides otherwise you will not be able to shorten your line sufficiently to land your fish using a net. The other major point is that using large indicators scares the fish you are casting to. Most Americans coming to fish in New Zealand are great anglers, it would be a shame to put all that effort and cost to coming here and stuffing up with a simple indicator choice.
If you are fishing a single nymph (besides those huge stoneflies) why would you ever go with strike indictor over a dry-dropper rig? Love the vids - keep them coming!
He has another video on the indicator setup he most favors, and it utilizes a tippet ring attached just past the indicator on a loop to kind of “hinge” the tippet section
Maybe, but I think every angler is quirky and different. Just like indicators. Each person will find their own style they like. I personally use yarn 95% of the time, Thingamabobber because it's the lightest "bobber" type.
Reasonable assessment, but I experience lots of circumstances when and indicator is just more effective, I love Hopper/Dropper style rigs but buoyancy is critical so that your "suspension device" be it a dry fly, bobber, yarn or whatever needs to float high enough for the fast surface currents to slide underneath it. If a Chubby Chernobyl for instance is sitting too low in the water with an oversized nymphs the surface currents are able to get a grip on it and your dry fly will float way too fast. It's good to be well schooled in both strategies. Sometimes those trout need that nymph moving slow in the bottom half of the water column and it makes a big difference in your hookup rate.
What are you using for chironomids under an indicator in Stillwater and slow moving streams? Oh and a diabetic with bad eyes is trying to see it. Thank you
Oh I love these, and the #12's work pretty darn well so they should be easy to tie on! redsflyfishing.com/collections/midge-chironomids/products/popular-chironomids-chrome-black-red
Does nobody use putty anymore? I find it versatile (use a little or a lot, but not a whole lot) and I like the slightly positive buoyancy. Not like the beach ball. But, I’ve been using it for decades, so maybe it’s just the devil I know. I use yarn and bobbers too. Need to get a NZ yarn kit.
That's pretty much exactly what I use personally 95% of the time, but I don't "pre-tie" any. I just keep plenty of yarn in my bag and tie in a piece with an overhand knot when and where I need to based on size of indicator I need at the moment. I don't like thread or ANYTHING that could hold water. Just my leader, and yarn. I carry a comb and custom build it each time. Takes about 1 minute or 2 is all. I'll do a full rundown on this sometime, I've been doing this a long time.
@@redsflyshop got you no rubber bands just the overhand. Ya that would be great to get a run down. Seem like when I try to adjust it puts curls in the line. Stay tuned.
Seriously ? Find one indicator that works for you , and go with it . Try a hopper dropper year round, it will surprise you . Even better… try no indicator at all . Now that’s real fly fishing .
not everyone fishes upstream to rising trout with barbless dry flies while using spit cane rods wearing tweed hats smoking handmade pipes with the finest organically grown tobacco on private waters... This kind of statement is what makes people think fly fishing is done by rich elite snobs. its not helpful. this video is...
Still can't believe most fly fisherman are now using bubble floats, if you need a bubble float to fly fish then you're simply just bad and need practice.
wow apparently no body goes to reds flies?? i dont know anyone who uses plastic or foam strike indicators(a bobber) anymore. loon bio strike is all i see. this guy in the video is 15 years behind the rest of the world😂 take your bobber advice from someone with more bobber experience than this fool! try the 12 year old at the local dock😂 youll get better info from the kid
I love this guy. He breaks things down to the lowest common denominator. Talks logic and just makes sense. At least to me. I’ll buy stuff at Reds just to keep hearing his tips . Kudos man 👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I do the same thing. One of my first stops when I have a fly fishing question.
Thanks Tom! Really appreciate the kind feedback and the support. I'll keep it up.
@@redsflyshop your welcome….. but it’s the truth. No frills fishing 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great video! Bought your indicator assortment a few months ago. Love it. Keep the great content up!
I never thought about this but it makes so much sense. You really do make great videos about things I never hear anyone else talk about. Would love to support your shop from CO!
Thanks Dade, much appreciated. We ship a lot of tackle to Colorado. Place on order, we'll get it there!
Your the man dude ,you put me on to the single nymph under a tip topper and I started really catchin em
Thanks, Joe!
The view from your desk is a helluva lot better than mine is right now. Great video, thanks.
Oh its sweet. Even my inside desk is awesome.
Bravo! This is a very important subject that the average fly fisherman struggles with. You covered it very well.
Thank you so much, kind support is appreciated.
Great information! Thanks for the tips.
Great explanation about the different uses.
Thanks KEC!
Great video!
Hey, Joe! Great info! May I ask you to please explain all the different lens colors and benefits of those colors on polarized sunglasses in a video? Thanks, man
Very helpful. Thanks for the tips from a subscriber. Cheers 🍻
Excellent video on a topic not covered enough.
Thanks very much, indicator selection makes a big difference.
1/2” bobbers what we mostly fish with on the South Platte here in CO. If no weights (split-shot) needed many use the New Zealand yarn. Good video.
I think that size is underutilized, it is less spooky and casts extremely well in the wind.
Best fly fishing videos on UA-cam!
Thank you!
Thank you for this
Cool video! Curious if you’ve tried the Ghosttec indicator? Just grabbed some, haven’t fished them yet but I think they might be awesome, and adaptable.
Great review Joe. I also use a piece of foam cut from a swim noodle. I can oversize it and then trim it back to dial in the drift. Yellow works best for sunny days and low light and orange for cloudy days.
That's a handy trick, custom cut to fit the job.
How do you attach it to your leader and what shape etc? I have noodles at home I’d love to try out
Santaella Media Any shape is OK as long as you leave room to trim and it will float your rig. I attach with a loop knot.
Farmer Bob great idea and cheaper than most alternatives.. I’ll give it a shot thanks
I've been indicator fishing for a billion years and never thought about the way that a bobber would drag my fly. Thanks for that tip. A tip for fishing with yarn: take the hook part of a velcro pad and stick it to something like a pair of nippers. Works well for yarn indicators and poly wing dry flies and you're never looking for that darn comb that "you know I've got it somewhere."
Good tip on the velcro, crafty. Thanks for the props and we appreciate your support Mike!
Thanks for the info. I'm a novice fly angler......I need all the help I can get!!!
Perfect, we are here to help sir!
Thank you for sharing your insight. Could you possibly talk about indicators for those of us who use a drop shot system, like Kelly Gallop’s, with the weight at the bottom and unweighted nymphs. Thanks in advance!
Yes for a Drop Shot rig, I'll typically use a 3/4" Thingamabobber for most rigs unless it's super swift and I'm running big Salmon Fly nymphs at which point I'll run a 1" er.
I do a lot of sight fishing in gin clear tail water fisheries with midges. I make little indicators by nail knotting pieces of orange rubber legs (fly tying material) onto my leader. It works really well.
That is a good tip, do they float a little bit? Or is the fly itself light enough that it doesn't matter?
Red's Fly Shop, they will only float with light unweighted midges fished just below the film. With weighted flies they will sink but in clear water you can still track the indicator. When fishing with weighted flies I place the indicator close to the fly 6-8 inches away. It works well for me.
I wish I would have seen this a few weeks ago. This past winter I purchased the NZ and was frustrated using it a few weeks ago. The water was fast and when I would mend my line the indicator would go under and not resurface. I switched to a really small thingamabobber and it worked much better.
Good feedback, nice audible on the indicator. The NZ rigs take a while to figure out much they will take and getting them setup just right with the perfect amount of yarn vs. floatant.
I roll with the yarn, but with fast flow and heavy set up, prefer the bobber.
Hi, just a reminder to read the local regulations as some trout waters ban the use of “thingmibobs”. When nymphing with a 9 foot rod and a 12 foot leader you really need a small wool indicator to pass through your guides otherwise you will not be able to shorten your line sufficiently to land your fish using a net. The other major point is that using large indicators scares the fish you are casting to. Most Americans coming to fish in New Zealand are great anglers, it would be a shame to put all that effort and cost to coming here and stuffing up with a simple indicator choice.
I've never heard of thingimibods being banned anywhere before. Are traditional bobbers also banned in these areas to?
If you are fishing a single nymph (besides those huge stoneflies) why would you ever go with strike indictor over a dry-dropper rig? Love the vids - keep them coming!
He has another video on the indicator setup he most favors, and it utilizes a tippet ring attached just past the indicator on a loop to kind of “hinge” the tippet section
This guy just made indicators so much more complicated than they are
The New Zealand yarn and airlock indicators are all you need for any situation
Maybe, but I think every angler is quirky and different. Just like indicators. Each person will find their own style they like. I personally use yarn 95% of the time, Thingamabobber because it's the lightest "bobber" type.
The New Zealand works great for subtle takes on small flies. A lot more sensitive than thingamabobbers in my experience.
Absolutely. Once you use that system its easy to see "what you've been missing"!
Red's Fly Shop yes sir. Great video as always 👍😎
What I'm struggling to understand is why you'd ever use an indicator if you can throw a dry that may also get a strike.
Reasonable assessment, but I experience lots of circumstances when and indicator is just more effective, I love Hopper/Dropper style rigs but buoyancy is critical so that your "suspension device" be it a dry fly, bobber, yarn or whatever needs to float high enough for the fast surface currents to slide underneath it. If a Chubby Chernobyl for instance is sitting too low in the water with an oversized nymphs the surface currents are able to get a grip on it and your dry fly will float way too fast. It's good to be well schooled in both strategies. Sometimes those trout need that nymph moving slow in the bottom half of the water column and it makes a big difference in your hookup rate.
What are you using for chironomids under an indicator in Stillwater and slow moving streams? Oh and a diabetic with bad eyes is trying to see it. Thank you
Oh I love these, and the #12's work pretty darn well so they should be easy to tie on! redsflyfishing.com/collections/midge-chironomids/products/popular-chironomids-chrome-black-red
How do you prevent your indicator from moving down your line when you cast? Thanks
It depends on the indicator, are you have trouble with something you got from us? Describe the model and I'll try to help!
The New Zealand indicators and yarn indicators require a Floatant. They become waterlogged and will sink into the surface film.
Does nobody use putty anymore? I find it versatile (use a little or a lot, but not a whole lot) and I like the slightly positive buoyancy. Not like the beach ball. But, I’ve been using it for decades, so maybe it’s just the devil I know. I use yarn and bobbers too. Need to get a NZ yarn kit.
Not really, I used that in the past but haven't seen it around in a long time. Try the NZ. I think you'll love it.
What’s your thoughts on the Dorsey indicators
That's pretty much exactly what I use personally 95% of the time, but I don't "pre-tie" any. I just keep plenty of yarn in my bag and tie in a piece with an overhand knot when and where I need to based on size of indicator I need at the moment. I don't like thread or ANYTHING that could hold water. Just my leader, and yarn. I carry a comb and custom build it each time. Takes about 1 minute or 2 is all. I'll do a full rundown on this sometime, I've been doing this a long time.
@@redsflyshop got you no rubber bands just the overhand. Ya that would be great to get a run down. Seem like when I try to adjust it puts curls in the line. Stay tuned.
Seriously ? Find one indicator that works for you , and go with it . Try a hopper dropper year round, it will surprise you . Even better… try no indicator at all . Now that’s real fly fishing .
i think you mean nymphet darling ;)
I use water ballons
There’s nothing more I hate than casting a big ass indicator rig, just simply hate it!
I thought your name was 'Red'..
Bobber. You mean bobber? It’s a BOBBER.
not everyone fishes upstream to rising trout with barbless dry flies while using spit cane rods wearing tweed hats smoking handmade pipes with the finest organically grown tobacco on private waters... This kind of statement is what makes people think fly fishing is done by rich elite snobs. its not helpful. this video is...
PLEASE SAY YOU HAVE TO APPLY FLOATANT. it is not an option.
Still can't believe most fly fisherman are now using bubble floats, if you need a bubble float to fly fish then you're simply just bad and need practice.
That's pretty funny. Sure makes guiding easy, but I'm with ya for my personal fishing.
Wrong info! Fish don't care about a plastic vs yarn bobber. A Bobber is a bobber! if u really don't want them to see it dont use it.
It's a strike indicator.
its a bobber lmao😂😂 get off ur high horse
wow apparently no body goes to reds flies?? i dont know anyone who uses plastic or foam strike indicators(a bobber) anymore. loon bio strike is all i see. this guy in the video is 15 years behind the rest of the world😂 take your bobber advice from someone with more bobber experience than this fool! try the 12 year old at the local dock😂 youll get better info from the kid
Seriously? What are you even talking about.