The real reason hitches are so LONG on dump truck trailers
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- @406garage3 bought himself a dump truck! The truck is a ready to run unit that he was able too just drive home, but the pup trailer has been sitting in the weeds for years. So I took the @zackliftinternational4841 up to help him get it pulled out and towed home, then realized that it was a good opportunity to explain why the drawbars on transfer and pup trailers are so long
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42:41 Casey: I'll put this back where it goes later.
Everyone: Sure you will Casey.
Well.....he will just not in the timeframe we would expect heh heh
@@whaddabunchashit yeah, in the other truck 🤣🤣😂
not again?!?!
What i really like about this tube is how much you enjoy yourself. It's like you're playing.
My favorite dumptruck story was delivering some decorative rocks. About half VW Bug sized. Askdd the loader man if they'd fit thru the non high lift tailgate, he said "if this one doesn't roll, it'll fit. The others are no problem." I get there and figure out where she wants em, on a slight slope beside the driveway. No problem. Tip it up, rocks slide. Big one catches a repaired crack and flips into the tailgate, truck stands on bumper; and stays there. Now I'm 14ft in the air(estimated). They find my nemesis, a ladder, I get out. Get an excavator to pull cab down, another to hold tailgate while we unbolt tailgate and let the rock out. Unfortunately they didn't have a big enough excavator to reach over box to adjust rock. Drove truck over tailgate to straighten it out.
Was a better ride than most of the roller coasters I've been on.
i work excavation 1 summer. second jobsite i was sent to was a landfill expansion. they gave me a 30 minute tutorial in a 40 ton articulated dump truck then sent me over to a crop field they were turning into a clay pit. couple weeks in, i was dumping overburden into a hole they had dug the previous summer. i guess i backed up a little too far, because when the bed was about a 3rd of the way up, i felt the whole truck start lifting! bed emptied out real quick then i came down kinda hard. one of the other guys told me during break the front wheels were a good 6 feet off the ground. that was the only good story i got from that job...
It's always a fun video when Casey and Ben get together. Thanks for all the explanations about that kind of hook up!
Just think... Casey, Ben and Grumpy together to do something
As a fellow truck sim player, I am happy the kid did so well ❤
Honestly, same but im kinda suprised they let him in without a CDL.
Scania and DAF also let ETS2 players drive at their facilities in the past. They're great training games.
Those sims are awesome. They have had passengers in GA small aircraft who played with those and were able to land after a pilot was incapacitated during a flight. I play the flight sims sometimes and when it's going to take too long to land and I need to be elsewhere I just crash the plane. LOL My stats end up looking BAD.
6:00 Retired Canadian Trucker here(25+ years, 67 years old now). Im a great believer in upgrading anyone's personaly training with Computer(PC) Gaming Simulators, such as ATS/Eurotruck/ Microsoft Flight Simulator as examples. The modern game simulator AND the Hardware you can buy nowadays are TOTALLY realistic. AMAZING stuff! Airplane pilots spend IMMENSE amount of hours training and upgrading it HUGE simulators, even the beginning pilots use a Desktop Flight Simulator program, with the hardware(Pedals/flight stick/control panel/etc). Just THINK how much safer a world it would be IF all new drivers(not just CDL) were required to spend even just a FEW HOURS in a truck/car training school, sitting at gaming programs EVEN BEFORE GOING INSIDE a Real Truck as a learner? Airline pilots do this, why not Vehicle training schools also?(Especially with the HIGH END truck/car PC gaming hardware, ULTRA realistic stuff!!!) Ive trained MANY new drivers in my day, and got paid by the company i worked for (Extra $) to do so, but it was nerve wracking also. Truck Sims... from my point of view, and as mentioned in this time stamp, solve a lot of issues. (Whew, i wrote a NOVEL this time... well i guess im still pasionate even in retirement about trucks(sigh)..
Indeed sir. In simulated conditions you can say ... the only damage repair are the ruffled feathers😂😂. Buy him/her a drink after that. Dont know about canada but in the netherlands the simulaters are the real deal. Even games privately bought are. For example a ralley game was set up/made with collin mc cray multiple world ralley champion.
Ahould be required for people driving a motorhome the first few times. Dealers should have them to keep their clients occupied while it takes months to repair their motorhome. 🤣🤣
My wife "worked" in Lahr Germany during the Gulf war. The Canadian pilots were hands down better. Why ? Video Games and realistic sims. Others soon caught on.
i've had my cdl A for coming up on 3 years and have done a little training (1 guy on a permit, another fresh out of academy). i 100% agree. i had played racing games since i was a kid. first time driving when i got my permit, i was instantly better than my older sister (as measured by my mother and grandfather's usage of the "i'm gonna die" handle) who had only really played mariokart. i had played trucking games and and later farming simulator for years before getting my commercial permit. i surprised my supervisor by how not-a-complete-idiot i was. still made plenty of rookie mistakes, but i didnt run over and street signs, which we both counted as a win lol.
the one fresh out of academy had ridden with a 30 year vet for 2 full months before he retired. i still had to help her dock a box truck... (at that warehouse, the semi dock has a good 200 feet to pull forward and back up straight. box truck docks you often have to come in at a slight angle before straightening out)
@@davebaker489 So glad we are given the opportunity to shine, we got an arm in space, and we had the best plane in early 60s with the Avro CF-105 Arrow.
I sure miss 406 garage on youtube ...hope he makes more vids soon ..he is a cool person
I am always amazed at how versatile that Zacklift is. It's awesome
I've put just over three thousand hours in American Truck Simulator.
I started playing when they only had three states and before they rescaled the map size.
Three thousand hours might sound like a lot, but I go periods of not playing it for months.
I can back B-double trailers in that game no problem.
I do enjoy playing with other players who actually do trucking as their job or have retired.
Bens phone going off was timed to perfection that I thought Casey overlaid it as he fixed the hose. I burst out laughing when he said about getting a cease and desist letter. Great video and you two idiots make a brilliant double act
I have seen those dump trucks with a dump trailer way back and wondered why. And that is why I like this channel - Casey imparts good information for us neophytes.
yea, glad u could catch it when he casually mentions why they are long for like 3 seconds in an hour long video.
It's a fruehauf box ..Cramero is the tarp manufacturer
Interesting! I always thought it was just so they could jackknife to dump the front without unhitching the pup. In my state nobody uses the long tongues. Probably part of why our roads are always crap...ironically, the 150k gravel trains are all transporting gravel to constantly rebuild the roads.
Personally, I think the differing lengths come from the States 'Civil Engineers'. If the Engineer has any background in trucking, they add MORE wheels to distribute the weight.. on the other hand IF the Engineer has "FA" experience in trucking, the simply stretch the whole thing out, without consideration for the Traffic hazard a stretch makes in reality in a lot of ways, but YEAH those 'Pintle Hook' draw bars... some of them even have an AIR release on the strech bar to make Dumping out faster and easier. YEP your right, Ive workd in the Gravel industry dumping with similar type Truck and Pups and thats how it works, imagine if the driver had to unhook to dump the Truck? He would be exhausted by days end. I.E. comparison to Michigan States well known 'Catterpillar Truck Units', tires from one end of the truck/trailer spaced 2 feet apart.
I thought the same thing about jackknifing to dump. Learn something new everyday on Casey’s channel!
I mean, they still jack knife to dump if there the space to do so.
The issue with having 4 axles under the trailer opposed to 2 is the extra amount of scrubbing the tires do for a turn, wears out tires faster and with a tight enough turn it really digs into the surface, some places get massive potholes in them from trucks turning around in the same spot
Until I watched this video, I didnt realize how much I missed Casey and Ben together! Snarkey comments, back and forth, and yet still getting the job done! Oh and how you can tell Casey is a good guy by how Lucy was so happy to see him! Ps, my 6 month old kitten , Blaze is fascinated with your use of air hoses!
That's what I noticed...the dog's reaction. Can't fake that without some good meat in your pockets. LOL
Back in my twenties in 78, I drove tandem dumps for a landscaping supply company. I hauled black dirt and gravel with an International Harvester 4000 with an 18 speed Spicer. It was a pain trying to hitch up that pup trailer. I had to set the tongue on a block and I back into it knocking it off the block to drop it in the hook. The engine was a puny little Cummins, Id take it out on the freeway and it would take a couple miles shifting all those gears to get it up to 50 mph. After that I got into hauling concrete and almost forty years later I've retired. Brought back some good memories.
Lucky you have two spare tires in the back of that pup trailer... plenty of rims for Ben to paint... You guys live in a great community - "one car in 10 minutes, and he wanted to stop and watch..."
You guys are hilarious! I see Casey still throwing stuff on the ground so he can pick it up… Lol!
Bridge Law is the reason for the distance. I drove a 1980 Eagle pulling a 35' end dump. Great truck, but the mufflers were so heavy they were tearing the aluminum cab. Straight pipes solved that issue. I'm a Binder Fan.
About the equipment in a small area being passed around, I know a guy that finally was able to buy the 1984 truck that he drove for his CDL test in 25 years ago. He has fixed it up quite a bit after years of neglect, and now it drives almost like a new 1985 KW.
Always great to see Ben and see what new project he's found. Always fun when these two get together.
as a retired driver I must say American Truck simulator is the closetes thing I have found to trucking in the gaming world
One of the best vehicles I have ever owned was a municipal rig. It had been a fire chief's vehicle for a small town in northern Idaho. It's a 2004 S10 Blazer that had 204,000 miles on it when I bought it several years ago and now has 327,000 on it and I fully expect it to go well over 500K. It had nothing but full synthetic oil, trans fluid, gear lube, etc from the time it was new and it still does. The only thing I have had to do other than maintenance items was a fuel pump.
Yah, the fuel is expected.
With every kick hit and twist and turn and blast of air to that flat tire I kept thinking starter fluid and a lighter😂
Glad I'm not the only one. Even a can of Old Spice would be a nice try.
I love when casey asked for him to put his foot near his foot at the end so he would not slide .Like ya help me by letting me step on your foot for traction
DAMN IT BEN, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A 406 GARAGE VIDEO...!!!!!
YOU'VE BEEN SLACKING AND IT'S UNACCEPTABLE...!!!
Come on Ben….get busy! We miss YOU!
Ive removed blowouts on my own trailers using two winch bars. I feel like that tire would have gone back on the bead if you had a strap wrapped around the tread
I have been told that the bolt the latch rotates on is a consumable item because, basically, the weight of pulling the trailer is all on that bolt. Also, if it's ever jack-knife, it has to be replaced.
Perfect timing with the Old Spice whistle.
Ben's dad didn't let him get Tonka Trucks when he was little. So now he's making up for it. 😀
It was a riot watching the two of you banter back and forth with each other. Poor Ben, though... little did he know about the smart remarks you made behind his back. So unfair, Casey... picking on your elder like that! 🤣
Nice job on updating the Zacklift. The front legs are now handy grab handles and those lower toolboxes look fantastic!
It's great when two best friends hang out I live the banter between you. Can tell you are blood Brothers.
Thanks for being safe and not overloading your winch by lifting both wheels at once.
I'm curious, the lift can lift up semi trucks but 2 tires at once is too much? I'm confused
“We will learn him on day”. Casey and Ben you two make a terrific YT pair and cometic routine. Have you ever considered a stand-up option?
Just starting to watch video, but this is the first time (I remember) seeing the Zacklift on the road working with the front landing gear attached...That thing is amazing!
The two of you together reminds me of Laurel and Hardy.
I totally agree! Same chemistry and dry sense of humor!
Ben bought a great truck and a great trailer. Very nice win.
Instead of "Tarzan," I was thinking 'George,' as in "George of the Jungle." 😁😁😋😂
Remember He’s not watching you struggle alone he’s giving you more opportunities to get good content
Trucking company I worked for in the early 1970's, in Eugene, put 5 lb. hammers in all their trucks to bang the tires........and general utility. The truck mecanics rule: if at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer.
Ben still needs to buy those girls coffee a few times a year.
Nudge. Nudge. Say no more. Keep them happy, the day goes way smother. It's like Pavlov dog conditioning thing. They see you coming their tails start wagging!
Hey Casey, another fun video. Just wanted to offer a suggestion about setting the bead on the tire. I have had success by wrapping a ratchet strap around the tire and tightening it up which forces the side walls outward allowing the bead to set. Cheers, Kelly.
He left his business card with the ladies at the front desk and bought them coffee for years to try and buy a truck bros SMOOTH 🤣. I'm sure they love that story "is that the guy that hits on you?" "Nah, that's the guy who really likes trucks".
Awesome to get some Ben & Casey shenanigans again!
It's amazing How Much I learn from you about trucking stuff.
Great video as usual
In the early 1970's I drove a White Western Star with trailer and hauled road base up to the logging roads we were building. It was a challenge to turn that around on a one lane mountain road but it can be done.
Oh Boy, coffee with Ben and Casey. Casey has drivers remorse!
Here the drawbar is usually hydraulicly extended so it can just be extended when you need to jackknife it to empty the truck and the drawbar is hanging on springs when you unhook it.
I drove a 4300w\a290 and 13 speed pulled a 24” frame dump hauling silica sand. also pulled flat need hauling silica sand bags .
"it's fun to watch you struggle".... "of course it is" 🤣🤣🤣💪
the 'lock-n-flate' brand locking air chuck that screws onto any standard tool has worked great for me. The major difference is that it has matching threads that grip the threads on the tire. It has quick squeeze connect and release.
Hah! Your buddy Ben needs a shirt! International Play Boy!
Hey Casey !!! With the electric cord hookup to 2 female connectors ,, you can make a coupler using 2 male ends (which you can get from the parts store ) hooked back to back only with the right & left clearance lights you have to cross wire them to make the lights right on the trailer !! Worked 11 yrs at "Roadway" & used this setup to run the light cord on the trucks with low batteries to get them started on the yard !! If I still had them ,I'd send you 1 ,but sent them to "Plaza Towing "" in CA. so they could hook lights up on those auto carrier trailers that have the same problem you have with Ben's trailer !! 🤔🙄😏👍👍👍👍👍 You'd have the same issue if you were to get a wrecked auto carrier with the low 5th wheel trailer !!
I probably would have picked up both wheels at the same time. Saved a few extra steps. Lol
Hint when hooking up a pup. Lift the truck box enough to see the pintle eye between the frame and box as you approach.
Casey that Hatchet is called a Shingling Hatchet and the notch is for pulling nails
Camaro I believe is the tarp system. The trailer looks to be a Fruehauf brand .
Last summer was so dry in Central Pennsylvania that I actually saw 3 tumble weeds blow across the Pennsylvania Turnpike on my way back from Philadelphia! Eddie
You need to get Bruce to come and teach him!!😂
Awesome video for a Saturday morning watch with coffee!!! It’s good to see Ben!!!
Thanks Casey. It is so good to see the good guys win.😊😊😊.
Casey take one of your old light cords cut the end off and wire in a female trailer plug on the other end it works
Love that the truck still has except tags.
The hitch on the truck is for a transfer trailer set up. Toss that and get the right one so it hooks up like it's supposed to.
It's fascinating to see the different types of dump trucks each state uses, for example Michigan will use 8 axel trailer or a set of trailers that totals to about 8 axels
long draw bar also helps when tipping the loads when after you dump the trailer, jack knife out of way and dump the truck.
Trick i learned a long time ago from a old school wrecker operator is to take a ratchet strap around the tire and ratchet as hard and as long as you can so the downward pressure pushes the tire back on the bead
From the 406 state to the 406 garage, greetings. Nice video Casey
Now to take that truck down to Robby Layton for paint!
Nothing like watching professionals with well maintained equipment at work..,,
Blue side is service side .Red is the emergency side (parking brake) red is always on the trailer left and blue is always on trailer right. Industry wide.great video !!
When the tire is off the bead slap a ratchet strap around the whole tire and tighten while you put air on it. Works pretty well
When I lived in Washington these dump trailers were always wild to me. Back here in Connecticut you'd never see these. We instead have a dump truck configuration that allows you haul 73k pounds on a short wheelbase with 4 axles on state roads so you would never see something like this.
Keep up with the good work love watching your videos on UA-cam God bless
great old truck and pup trailer.
Reminds me of Statler & Waldorf! However good to know why the drawbars are so long
TIP....Next to the "persauder", put a bottle of dishpan liquid (one quarter soap and the rest, water.)
Drizzle this over ther the top of the wheel rim until it runs all the way around.
This acts as a lubricant for the tyre bead to pop back into place.
Old British Army trick for recovering trailers and trucks that have been sat for a while.
Old as in, I learned that in 1972!
You're welcome!
😂 it going to be a Great Day, Casey is on the job. Ben, it’s been too long since you’ve dragged Casey along for another International buy. Nice to see you two on a new escapade 😁
If those are steel boxes, in Iowa, you would get about 24 ton between the 2 with 13 or so on the truck and 11 on the pup of course depending on the empty weight
Not only has American trucking simulator made me better at backing up trailers but snow runner as well. A combination of both can help someone really get into trucking.
You should make a set of forks for the boom. Could be handy.
You need stickers that say….. I’ve been hooked by Casey’s Wrecker….
Oh new toys and hammers totally makes for a fun day 😂😂😂😂
Fun times when Ben's around.
I play American Truck Sim, and it honestly is a great simulator. It will be super useful to help train future truckers.
Hey Casey, very informative talk about weights and measures in the trucking industry. I would have liked to have seen the interior and engine compartment of Ben's truck. I drove for South Tahoe Refuse in 1979 hauling garbage from Tahoe to Gardnerville Nevada. They had two transtar 4300 conventional tractors, one had a 4x4 two stick and the other a 5x4 two stick, both had 350 Cummins motors. It took forever all day long to get a round trip in !! Loved those old cornbinders and as Ben said they were pretty beat up as they were mid 70s models and they ran 24 hours a day. Tough old trucks, not a single computer anything in em. I wonder if there is a simulator that teaches about how to run a set of sticks and watch a pyrometer while pulling long mountain grades...nah that's probably way too old school. Those were the days my friend. 😊 I still hate you for making me watch such a good trucking video.
Ben and his Big Pink Dumptruck!!
The spreader challenge reminded .e of Moose Lake, MN agate days.
They block off 2 or 3 blocks downtown and spread rocks in the road for folks to look through.
Definitely different, definitely fun for the kids.
Instead of moving the truck three times, you could've picked one rim up with each winch :)
Look Ma, i'm feeding the algorithm!
Casey, the long reach is needed to jack knife the pup trailer out of the way when dumping the the truck
@CaseyLaDelle another trick that "sometimes" works to set a bead, is once you got the inside up on a block, put a ratchet strap and tighten around flat tire, then put air to it, as soon as you hear the bead set, stop air and remove ratchet strap, then continue....
Nice find Ben. Like those Pro Par Fruehauf axles. There's a socket to remove the oil bath axle cover and bearing retainer nuts. If memory serves Me right. Both wheel bearings bearings are the same. Only one nut witha cotter pin to hold nut in place.
5:55 me being a 500+ hour American Truck Simulator gamer actually working on getting my AZ CDL. Gives me the warm fuzzies thinking I will be better off as a new driver (for sure now) than most of the people in my class.
Also something I used to do when I was a mechanic was if a tire was a little difficult I'd wrap a strap around it to give it a little help. I would do that before using the blaster and it had a pretty good success rate. I never worked on truck wheels but for car tires it worked.
Great video!! It was funny and informative and great to see Ben again he has a nice dump truck setup!!!😮😊 looking forward to seeing you all on the next one!!!!!
Bens pants! Rigs work pants are the best, wear like iron. Oh yeah, good video Casey.
That dump truck is great!
Oh weird you call the dump body extensions after the gates skirts? Out here in new England area we call them aprons
Do the aprons have pockets? Or bibs? :)
lock n lube now makes a decent locking air chuck. that and a valve with 10-12 ft of line so you can fill remote
So Wise , Thank You . a fine project
That was some good monkeyin a round lol it was fun thanks 👍👍👍👍😊