Testing the New Evans UV2 Coated Drumheads | Season Two, Episode 40
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2019
- After years and years of trying out different drumhead combinations and getting to develop and experiment with new ideas in a prototyping context, it’s still a blast to get to try something new and fresh. After nearly 14 months since receiving our first prototypes of the Evans UV2 drumheads, the final version is out and @evansdrumheads sent us some to check out + many of you have been asking when we’d feature them here. Today is the day!
Regardless of your preferred brand/model/playing style, this fresh look at a new set of drumheads and considerations as to the important factors will be applicable to all drummers.
First look at the original prototypes:
• Ep. 30 Evans UV2 Proto...
Demo 1: 2:52
Demo 2: 6:23
Demo 3: 10:52
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Signal chain:
Mics - Focusrite Clarett 8Pre USB & OctoPre - MacPro w/Pro Tools 12.8
Recorded at 48kHz / 24bit
Focusrite Clarett 8Pre USB tinyurl.com/Clarett8Pre
Focusrite Clarett OctoPre tinyurl.com/ClarettOctoPro
Full kit: AKG C414 (ear-distance)Snare drum & tom tom close mics: Shure SM57
Bass drum: AKG D112 (at mic port) + KAM R3 Ribbon microphone 8” away from reso
Drums: Pearl Masters Custom Extra Maple + DDrum Vintone Snare
Tom & Snare Batters: Evans UV2 Coated
Tom Resos: Evans G1 Clear
Snare Resos 3: Evans Snare Side 300
Bass Drum Batter: Evans UV EMAD
Bass Drum Reso: Evans EQ3 Coated White
Hosted by: Ben O’Brien Smith
Production: Ben O'Brien Smith @ Cadence Independent Media
Presenting Sponsor: Promark by D’Addario
Production Partners: Focusrite, Evans Drumheads
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Evans UV1 and UV2's are superior to anything Remo has to offer. PERIOD!!!
I'm a 69 YO , retired due to spinal issues in 2020. I returned to playing Drums as a Personal pleasure / recreational hobby , playing bto My Music. I was gifted a cheapo Gammon drum kit in 2018, by all people, my wife of 46 years. I have not played drums for 50 years !!! learned by ear , played simple stuff (No Bonham, Baker or Moon), but always loved it and always played Air Drums. Now I'm back. Watching these and other UA-cam videos has been a tremendous contribution to my education about this Instrument. I have experimented with at least 3 or 4 drum heads on my 3 Toms. 12, 13 and 16 inch (the snare was replaced with a DW Design Series Snare 14 X 6.5 Nickel over Brass Used with a Evans HD Dry snare head [loved it]), Toms , I tried : Remo Ambassadors; Evans G1 coated , Evans G1 clear , Attack ToneRidge and now G2s Clear. To my ear , the G2s on the Batter head, and G1s clear on the Reso are approaching the sound I would like to achieve. In fact, one of the Toms sound "better" with a Remo coated Reso head vs the G1clear.
The Attacks were Ok but are the "heaviest" of the crop, and since the drums are mixed woods (not maple), the sound with the Attacks didn't satisfy. Do you think the Evans UV2s would make a difference? Or am I wasting money? FYI, having better grade drums does make a difference. I received a pdp Concept Maple 10 X 8 Rack Tom for Xmas , attached to one of my cymbal stands, (of course , I got all new Paiste P7s and P8 cymbals), and Whoa !!! . I'm searching Web now for a Used pdp Concept Maple shell pack.
I've been using these for 2 weeks now and I must say, I love them!!!! They get better with time and I'm a hard hitter and they're definitely holding up. Highly recommend
How do you guys not have more subscribers?! The content is gold 👌
Thanks for the kind words! Be sure to share the videos/channel with your drummer friends. We rely on word of mouth. Cheers! -Ben
UV2 Batter and EC resonant kill on toms!!!! EQ3 system pack on bass drum, and HD Dry on snare. So much easier to deal with in the studio.
I'm so excited these heads are finally out!
It's quite cool to have the finished product given all of the prototyping developments that took place over the course of the last couple years. We certainly had a blast with these ones! -Ben
You guys have been best rock drum sound I've heard on UA-cam yet. I'm not sure how you do it, but keep up the great work
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
I have so waited for this!
I'm currently rocking Evans Hydraulic Heads in Black. I just replaced my EMAD 22 batter and resonant for the Evans Hydraulic 22" batter and an Evans EQ3 Resonant Head... Both combinations are excellent. I'm sold on Evans Drum Heads
another great video. those heads sound real nice
Thanks! We've definitely been having fun with them.
now theyre out and its time to finally look at sth that i really need, which is the uv12 and uv14 :D
Those are the same sticks I use and they made my old snare look like someone took a shit on it. I just got all new UV2s and am exciting to put them on after this. Those sound great.
Love G1 and G2, also ec2s make my toms record amazingly well, however the genera dry i got made my lm400 sound super plasticy ive been scared to get more coated evans heads for this reason but if these sound this good and last this long sounds perfect for a gigging kit
I've been considering these UV2 heads for my next replacement
Very happy with my UV1s at the moment :-)
Those are a great option for single-ply heads!
These are intriguing. I've had really great luck with the G2's and so the roughly $10 more a head for these seems hard to justify unless they really last way longer. Most of my tuning situations are pretty low right now so if these hold up under that it could be worth it I suppose. Great content as always guys. I don't get why you don't have a larger subscriber base.
Edit: I just saw in the description that you'll be doing a G2 comparison! Excited to see that.
They certainly cost more (though the pricing for tom packs seems like an excellent way to go if you're outfitting a full set of toms) but these are easily significantly more durable than the G2's. One of the reasons why I went with a lower tuning for these specifically is because that's where heads tend to be most susceptible to wear and these have really held up/
Thanks for the kind words. As for the size of the subscriber base, we're very grateful for our community and their efforts to help spread the word about what we're doing. This channel isn't all about flashy playing and drum covers, so it's understandable why it's not necessarily entertaining for everyone but hopefully it's providing actionable insights for those that do follow the series. For those that are looking for even more, we've got our Patreon, which is where the G2 vs. UV2 comparison will be released.
Cheers!
Ben
Love em
Got it on my snre felt a little stiff at first but now we re in love🥁🇨🇦
How many turns on the reso and batter side of the toms? They sound awesome!
Very good video . I dont play EVANS but i found the content interesting nevertheless
Same here...
Got a couple of these yesterday; jury is still out for me. Gonna change my reso heads and see if that sells em
As with the prototypes, these do seem to require some additional time to be broken in- more so than G2 or EC2S. -Ben
The aux snare is Don Henley's snare on I cant tell you why by the Eagles!
Gotta love that deep, punchy sound!
Only two ply heads I ever really liked are the hydraulics. I tried the UV1s and honestly found this weird plastic "clicky" sound every time my stick hit the head that drove me nuts! I use wood tips and never found this with any other heads. I read a few similar reviews so it has to be something with the uv coating. Not a problem with the regular evans sprayed coating or clear heads. Not as pronounced with hard playing but I don't hit hard, it was a test. I could see heavy handers who like open drum sounds using them but I am surprised by how many jazz cats are flying them.
I think that unique contact sound (attack) is a combination of the coating and the material itself. The films being used haven't been used in previous models of Evans heads. The nice thing is that there are so many options out there allowing us all to find the right gear for the gig. Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum Good sound, any good for quite low volume?
@@johncollins5552 Dynamic response is about what you'd expect for a two-ply head. You could get by with these if you're usually playing heavier but have a softer gig as an exception but if you're generally playing softer, I believe that the G2 coated heads have a greater dynamic range on the soft side of the spectrum. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum Thanks, coated ambassadors batters are my fave sound but I play mix of g2 and clear emperors batters for better durability as just not recording these days.
I agree - I have two UV1s that sit around and get thrown on just to see if anything’s changed. Everytime I put them on there’s this weird feeling under the stick as well as a sound that isn’t as responsive or crisp as anything else I’ve used - 2 ply heads and thick dry heads included. Curious if giving just the good old G1 ago will be worth my time because I do like Evan’s product offering but have been playing Remo as of late.
Came for the UV2, stayed for the Ddrum snare.
Hi - love your channel - big fan. Quick question; what's your opinion/recommendation for the best (coated) reso head(s) that would best complement the UV2 batter heads. Again, thank you
Thanks! You really can't go wrong with a G1 (clear or coated). Depending on how this meets your needs, you could further experiment with the Reso 7 or G12 coated. Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum thank you
What cymbals are those? Those hats sounds amazing!
Thanks! Bottom hi-hat is a Zidljian New Beat top. Both the top hi-hat and the ride are cymbal mods done by our good friend Jesse Simpson here in Brooklyn.
Are those firegrains I see? Just got some and I love them!
Yep! A little heavier, a little more durable. 🔥
Could you possibly do a video on the advantages/disadvantages of using a double bass pedal and/or two bass drums? Thanks!
Neither of us are really double bass players but that’s certainly a topic to get into in the future. Cheers! -Ben
Love the sound on the DDrum snare,but don't care for the sound on the tom and floor tom.
I’d really like to see them create a clear/coated UV2.
Maybe the same kind of thing with the clear collar on the bearing edge with a 2-3” clear spot right in the middle.
I feel like you’d really get the control of a coated head with just a little more attack right in the middle.
\\Evans4Life//
26” bass drum video soon?
What's the biggest difference OTHER than "they last super long- don't chip" TONE wise? Anyone played both g2 coated and uv2s and have any insight? I'd just buy both but that would be over $100+ Thanks!
I haven’t been impressed with Uv1 so far. I slapped one on my church snare and tested Steve Gad brushes on it and the coating already scratched off it after five minutes of playing. Also it sounded rather flat on my snare even after a day of stretching from playing and tuning. Your video sounds great but I’m skeptical of the coating lasting longer since for me it scratches off faster than normal coating.
thats surprising. You're not playing with the rake side down are you?
cearleywine according to what I read and saw online, Steve Gadd uses both sides for various sounds. That’s what I did.
How are they holding up, has the tone died at all? Are they durable?
They held up quite well! In the end they just required more break-in time than we were used to but they're super durable and definitely worth considering for an heavier-hitting, 2-ply players out there.
Is this head similar to a Remo white suedes?
Good luck with getting a reply about a query about Remo! Good video nonetheless.
I know you are sponsored by Evans but do y’all ever test Remo heads?
We are not sponsored by Evans but they provide heads for our Tuesday series. As you can probably imagine, all the drumheads we need in order to produce this series would get quite expensive so we’re grateful for the support of Evans in helping make these videos possible.
While we’ve had conversations with Remo about working on things together outside of our weekly Tuesday videos, they’ve been unresponsive for a while now. We totally respect if they don’t have any interest in supporting what we’re doing- that’s completely up to them.
One of the reasons why we did an episode on the UV2 in particular was because we had been asked to test the prototypes last year and we’ve received quite a few inquiries about the final versions. It’s very rare that we focus on a single, specific model of drumhead within this series but this is a worthwhile process to consider for testing any new drumhead, regardless of brand. Cheers!
It’s to bad if Remo don’t want to be part of your blog. Because y’all have a great UA-cam page and videos. But on a different note can y’all do a video on where to port a bass drum head. I hear if you port it right on the center you get the best sound?
CAMEL BACK CINEMA!
Ha! Not what I was going for there but definitely similar. There's certainly some Primus influence throughout- both Brain and Herb. Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum I can pick out a Primus lick anywhere. The Brown album was always a fav for me. Brain and his drum solo on the live Tommy the Cat on Rhinoplasty were the reasons I picked up the sticks in the first place..
Wow 14 months since prototype video? None of us are getting any younger boys and girls ha ha ha ha might be interesting for snare but darn man they sound like they would choke out my sonorlites!
On one hand I wish I could afford them, but on the other hand I'm using G2s for snare and toms both, so I'm in good shape for a while but when I do need new heads it's absolutely going to be these unless there's some miracle head released between now and then. But I do need to try and find a way to make my bass drum sound better. Have a listen, what do you think I could do? I use Super Kick I right now and don't really like damping, there's a 4 inch port and it's a 22x16 . . . but just can't find a tuning I like: ua-cam.com/video/r_Si8ld8VDQ/v-deo.html
comment on D1 series pls
D1 series?
Maybe it’s just my preference but I think the aux snare sounds terrible.
ooops HD genera
I did a gig on a cruise and the snare from the backline kit had a UV1 snare drum head. The orchestra drummer had put duct tape strips to control overtones, and seeing as how I don't like my snare drum sound with any muffling, I removed the tape strips. The tape pulled the coating right off as easy as if it was freshly spray painted a couple of hours before. Evans needs to take a look at what Aquarian is doing with coating drum heads. Aquarian's coating is practically indestructible, and their tone is amazing, so much so that after 30 years, I'm switching over to Aquarian from Remo..That, and the simple fact that they cost a lot less than Remo and Evans, is a no brainer for any working drummer, whether your on a budget or not..
Duct tape is gonna do that to literally any head. Only morons would use duct tape in that way. Use painters tape or gaff tape.
@@rushxanthemtcg5607 If you fully read my comment, you'd see that I don't use ANY muffling on my snare drum, or the rest of my kit for that matter..
I like them on the floor Tom, a d snare, but for me on rack toms, they Just kill a bit too much tone
Based on the episode or your personal experience with the heads?
@@SoundsLikeADrum unfortunately, i dont hace any personal experience with them, so I guess I'm slightly unqualified to give my opinion, but I've watched a lot of reviews, and reduced resonance does seem to be a common consensus. However, that isnt necessarily bad thing depending on the style and situation
I don’t get it
What?
Snare's not bad but the toms sound like complete shite
They are DUHHHH heads. Deep tone, but sound dull and stupid. "Duhhhh." Its seems to be the easy way out for those who do not know how to tune heads these days. Its not just with this brand. Its a trend. Yet, its better than what some may get otherwise when they do not know how to tune.