I went to his company's website expecting them to be EcoWater vendors. The fact that they are for a different brand speaks volumes about this high praise. Thank you for being a man of integrity
Our local Costco has a EcoWater vendor, but the vender will only work with city water and will not help if you are on well water. We have had different Culligan units during the past 54 years. When the unit broke this time, the Culligan man spent about 15 minutes but was unable to repair the mother board because it was produced in the United States and they no longer support it. All their products are produced in China now. He charged me $123 and wanted to sell me a new unit. Buy contrast when I contacted NORTHCOAST WATERWORKS in Windsor CA. Dominic came out and spent two hours trying to solve our water problems at NO Charge . He first tried to fix the Culligan unit but was unable. Then he tested our water and showed me the different problems that I had with the water which Culligan never addressed. While they offer products from different manufacturers, what he felt would be best for us was a Kinetico water system.
Great informative video, Drew! Your top 5 water softener list is super helpful. The clear explanations and comparisons made it easy to understand the differences between each option. Thanks for sharing your expertise! -Macy (Team Evan)
Great information. However, my biggest issue with all the system you recommend. Is they requiring me having someone come out just to get pricing on the product. I personally do not trust any company that in order to get the information I want. Requires them coming to my house. Because one I see that is aggressive sales. They are not going to want to leave until they get a sale. Two pricing for the product should be up front. A nut cost what a nut cost. You don't need to talk to me about what I am going to use the nut for to give me a price. I find they do this to up sale you or try and over charge. As there is a commission on the sale. These are companies I avoid. Also, I don't want to waste my time or their time. If I have a budget of say $3000 max. I don't need them coming out spending over an hour telling how amazing their product is and then saying what I want will cost $30,000. Only to have me say no thanks. Them say hold up. Make a phone call and say okay I just spoke with my manger. If you can put down $5000 today, we can do it for $15000 total. NO! You could have offered $15k 2 minutes ago. Now I have to wonder how much you're still trying to overcharge me. Last of all I am a grown man. I know how to turn the water off coming into my house. I know how to clear the line. I know how to tie into lines. I can install a water softener. I don't need to pay someone to do something I can do myself. It's not rocket science. Plus, what I don't know how to do. There are books I can read and videos I can watch. Now, you are very helpful, and I have no issue with you. I don't want you to think that. But there are a large number of people that search this topic. That what to be able to gather all the information they need without having to deal with anyone. Then if what they need requires dealing with people, they will do that. At this point I am likely to go with an Aquasure setup. It's likely not the greatest setup. But it's under my budget. I can install it myself. The maintenance isn't so bad that can't handle it.
Thank you for the comment! The right way to do any system is with a thorough water test. If you like…. I am happy to try to help you and send you a water test and then suggest the right system for you. Call me at 847-382-7800
Just went through this myself. EcoWater had a sales guy come out and do a whole presentation. The refiner was quoted at $6300. Another company sold only Watertech which is another American made high end system. They also had to come out and try to sell me on it. Mid level was $5K top was $10K!! Third company I wanted to come out wanted $99 just to get me pricing (waived if I go with them of course). I said no way. I ended up going with a plumber who gave me pricing over the phone within one minute. He recommended a Morton softener from Menards. I’m getting a 48K grain softener with Wi-Fi and a three stage whole house filtration system installed for $850. Softener 650ish and filters from Amazon 400ish. All in
Exactly! I’ve been hit with these predatory marketing systems. Worse than multilevel! MLM‘s baby even drive away your best friends. Some of these sales guys detect they’re not getting the sale and they’ll say something like you do. Love your wife right you care about your children’s health?? They’ll say that in front of you and your family. It leaves you in this position where you have to buy the product because if you don’t, your onlooking family will know that you don’t love them enough
@@benjaminbrack2588 Yes.. This industry can get a little pushy.. My answer would be, you are absolutely right.. I do want to care for them and to that end I need to do some more research! Make sure I am getting NSF58 and NSF44 Certified systems.
Isn’t Ecowater the parent company of Ecopure, who manufactures all the big box store brands like Rheem and Morton? The Rheem manual carries an NSF logo, so wouldn’t they be just as good as the Ecowater?
my kinetic water system has never worked properly. I have had it for seven years and had serviced over and over. Itis going to be serviced in a few days.
I CALLED COSCO , AND THEY REFERED ME TO THE 1 800 NUMBER FOR ECO WATER AND THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NO VENDOR FOR THE ECO WATER SYSTEM IN MY AREA , WHAT DO I DO KNOW ?
Would you recommend a salt water softener or a conditioner (salt water free) system for the following: Skin, hair, appliances and drinking. I want a Whole house system.
Hi, please watch my other video on Salt Free water conditioners vs. Salt based traditional water softeners! ua-cam.com/video/DHE0Oncov6g/v-deo.htmlsi=Wbl7mtEwCKAeIIII
@@larryedwards4708 the lack of answer says it all brother… I have had similar water filtration experts come out they are so expensive they have payment plans $5000-$10000 would be my guess
lol my well water is 1800 ppm hardness so around 110 gpg, what size softener would you recommend for that? I have a 96k grain system now with a fleck controller, water only feels soft for maybe a day or two after regeneration, I'm filtering it before the softener from 25 to 5 micron, and my softener has 10% crosslinked resin.
Your water is extreme. You will most likely need two water softeners. One after another. both should be minimum of 96k grain of resin. normally people with that hard of water we install a whole house reverse osmosis system after that.
@@AngelWater yeah my neighbors softener is like 140k grain. Five house on my street and everyone’s water is crap. At least there is no iron, I moved my regen exception from 14 days to every 4 days. I looked into a whole house RO and almost bought one but we now have the possibility of getting rural water, hwy expansion forced rural water authority to lay a bigger line. Now everyone in this area just have to get together and hire a contractor to lay a mainline 9k feet and all the subsequent lateral lines then on top of those costs we have to pay the RWA a $6500 “membership fee” to set a meter at our house, what a racket.
Okay I hd a consultation with EcoWater rep here in CA. My hard water level is 12. I have a 3 bath house but only 2 of us living here. The recommendation was a cabinet style. The cost came in at $6500!!!. No way I can pay that. What do you think about the Genesis units? That’s more my budget. Trying to avoid the big box stores.
To me, I would be asking the following questions: 1. Is their product NSF 44 certified - by national sanitation foundation? 2. Is this product made in America? To my knowledge, their products are assembled in America however they are built in China.
Probably none, but what Drew is talking about is that if your water softener is undersized for the size of the home and family, is that volume of use can overrun the resin media in the water softener. The amount of resin or capacity of a softener only has so much surface area to collect calcium and magnesium, some iron before the resin can no longer pull that out of the water. So if daily volume of water use is beyond the capacity of the softener you’ll have an inefficient system. Your experience might be like “I get nice soft water for a day or 2 after regen but then it feels hard”
Not a huge fan. I am a fan of their ECR3702 which takes out up to 10ppm of Iron. In addition you want to always test for Iron bacteria because that will change the type of Iron filter you will buy.
Eco-water is a propriety item and is sold strictly through Eco-water. Very expensive to own one of these systems and you cannot in their eyes maintain your own system yourself you have to call on them. Service call is expensive also. I bought my Unit 20 years ago just under 4,000 dollars. I will never buy from them again.
What you did buy was an American Made product in an industry of Chinese Junk. Today Ecowater is made in Mississippi. I am sorry the local dealer in your area was not that great.. But 20 years ago!!! Ummm Hello.. We find the Big Box Stuff lasting 2 to 4 years at $600. It sounds like you got your moneys worth to me.. Sticker Company products lasts maybe 7 years. We service every make and model.. I am simply sharing our experience of 50 years.
I went to his company's website expecting them to be EcoWater vendors. The fact that they are for a different brand speaks volumes about this high praise. Thank you for being a man of integrity
Thank you for also seeking Truthful people out there!
Our local Costco has a EcoWater vendor, but the vender will only work with city water and will not help if you are on well water. We have had different Culligan units during the past 54 years. When the unit broke this time, the Culligan man spent about 15 minutes but was unable to repair the mother board because it was produced in the United States and they no longer support it. All their products are produced in China now. He charged me $123 and wanted to sell me a new unit. Buy contrast when I contacted NORTHCOAST WATERWORKS in Windsor CA. Dominic came out and spent two hours trying to solve our water problems at NO Charge . He first tried to fix the Culligan unit but was unable. Then he tested our water and showed me the different problems that I had with the water which Culligan never addressed. While they offer products from different manufacturers, what he felt would be best for us was a Kinetico water system.
Wife and I was on the fence about what system to go with. Angel water sealed it, went with Eco 3702 R30 from Costco. Gets installed this week. Drew!!
Wow! That is wonderful news! We are so happy to serve you and your family clean safe water.
I bought an Aquasure for $650 5 years ago, it’s been flawless…
But what about the water.. did you test it??
Have a 9 year old Whirlpool from Lowe’s and it’s been perfect. Water was tested and was fine …….
What part of the country are you in?
@@christopherm.esparza705
New Mexico
Great informative video, Drew! Your top 5 water softener list is super helpful. The clear explanations and comparisons made it easy to understand the differences between each option. Thanks for sharing your expertise! -Macy (Team Evan)
Thanks Macy... I am learning a great deal from Team Evan!!!!
Great information. However, my biggest issue with all the system you recommend. Is they requiring me having someone come out just to get pricing on the product. I personally do not trust any company that in order to get the information I want. Requires them coming to my house. Because one I see that is aggressive sales. They are not going to want to leave until they get a sale. Two pricing for the product should be up front. A nut cost what a nut cost. You don't need to talk to me about what I am going to use the nut for to give me a price. I find they do this to up sale you or try and over charge. As there is a commission on the sale. These are companies I avoid.
Also, I don't want to waste my time or their time. If I have a budget of say $3000 max. I don't need them coming out spending over an hour telling how amazing their product is and then saying what I want will cost $30,000. Only to have me say no thanks. Them say hold up. Make a phone call and say okay I just spoke with my manger. If you can put down $5000 today, we can do it for $15000 total. NO! You could have offered $15k 2 minutes ago. Now I have to wonder how much you're still trying to overcharge me.
Last of all I am a grown man. I know how to turn the water off coming into my house. I know how to clear the line. I know how to tie into lines. I can install a water softener. I don't need to pay someone to do something I can do myself. It's not rocket science. Plus, what I don't know how to do. There are books I can read and videos I can watch.
Now, you are very helpful, and I have no issue with you. I don't want you to think that. But there are a large number of people that search this topic. That what to be able to gather all the information they need without having to deal with anyone. Then if what they need requires dealing with people, they will do that. At this point I am likely to go with an Aquasure setup. It's likely not the greatest setup. But it's under my budget. I can install it myself. The maintenance isn't so bad that can't handle it.
Thank you for the comment! The right way to do any system is with a thorough water test.
If you like…. I am happy to try to help you and send you a water test and then suggest the right system for you. Call me at 847-382-7800
My exact thoughts. There are many vids on YT telling the public the " Top five best " of etc etc etc. Doing your own research is the way to go.
Just went through this myself. EcoWater had a sales guy come out and do a whole presentation. The refiner was quoted at $6300. Another company sold only Watertech which is another American made high end system. They also had to come out and try to sell me on it. Mid level was $5K top was $10K!! Third company I wanted to come out wanted $99 just to get me pricing (waived if I go with them of course). I said no way. I ended up going with a plumber who gave me pricing over the phone within one minute. He recommended a Morton softener from Menards. I’m getting a 48K grain softener with Wi-Fi and a three stage whole house filtration system installed for $850. Softener 650ish and filters from Amazon 400ish. All in
Exactly! I’ve been hit with these predatory marketing systems. Worse than multilevel! MLM‘s baby even drive away your best friends. Some of these sales guys detect they’re not getting the sale and they’ll say something like you do. Love your wife right you care about your children’s health?? They’ll say that in front of you and your family. It leaves you in this position where you have to buy the product because if you don’t, your onlooking family will know that you don’t love them enough
@@benjaminbrack2588 Yes.. This industry can get a little pushy.. My answer would be, you are absolutely right.. I do want to care for them and to that end I need to do some more research! Make sure I am getting NSF58 and NSF44 Certified systems.
Isn’t Ecowater the parent company of Ecopure, who manufactures all the big box store brands like Rheem and Morton? The Rheem manual carries an NSF logo, so wouldn’t they be just as good as the Ecowater?
Drew, I like the information. Where can i find Chandler water softener distributors in Washington DC metro area.
my kinetic water system has never worked properly. I have had it for seven years and had serviced over and over. Itis going to be serviced in a few days.
Whats your opinion on ecoverse water systems?
i need a system to remove arsenic dichloroacetic acid radium combined trihalomethanes and
hard water
I CALLED COSCO , AND THEY REFERED ME TO THE 1 800 NUMBER FOR ECO WATER AND THEY TOLD ME THERE WAS NO VENDOR FOR THE ECO WATER SYSTEM IN MY AREA , WHAT DO I DO KNOW ?
EcoWater is a National Dealer, you can find where they are located near you on their website EcoWater.com
Would you recommend a salt water softener or a conditioner (salt water free) system for the following: Skin, hair, appliances and drinking. I want a Whole house system.
Hi, please watch my other video on Salt Free water conditioners vs. Salt based traditional water softeners! ua-cam.com/video/DHE0Oncov6g/v-deo.htmlsi=Wbl7mtEwCKAeIIII
@@AngelWater What about the ECo system IDP 40CC? I am not a costco member
eco water is not in my area...so what would not decrease water pressure?
Please suggest water softener for agriculture purpose
Water Softeners simply remove rock... Agriculture usually does not want a water softener because plants like the calcium in the water.
what is the best softener without wi-fi
I love your videos. 😊
Thank you so much for watching!! 😄
what about culligan??
I HAVE A APPOINTMENT WITH CULLIGAN HERE IN FEW DAYS I'M GOING TO CANCEL THANKS TO YOU YOUR AWESOME SORRY FOR ALL CAPS
Haha, thats awesome! Thanks for watching the video, I hope you enjoy Clean Safe Water for you and your family!
No mention of Fleck - come on. I can get a 5600 head, Pentair tank and Purolite resin for 800 bucks.
So what is the typical installed price of this product level?
@@larryedwards4708 the lack of answer says it all brother… I have had similar water filtration experts come out they are so expensive they have payment plans $5000-$10000 would be my guess
lol my well water is 1800 ppm hardness so around 110 gpg, what size softener would you recommend for that? I have a 96k grain system now with a fleck controller, water only feels soft for maybe a day or two after regeneration, I'm filtering it before the softener from 25 to 5 micron, and my softener has 10% crosslinked resin.
Your water is extreme. You will most likely need two water softeners. One after another. both should be minimum of 96k grain of resin. normally people with that hard of water we install a whole house reverse osmosis system after that.
@@AngelWater yeah my neighbors softener is like 140k grain. Five house on my street and everyone’s water is crap. At least there is no iron, I moved my regen exception from 14 days to every 4 days. I looked into a whole house RO and almost bought one but we now have the possibility of getting rural water, hwy expansion forced rural water authority to lay a bigger line. Now everyone in this area just have to get together and hire a contractor to lay a mainline 9k feet and all the subsequent lateral lines then on top of those costs we have to pay the RWA a $6500 “membership fee” to set a meter at our house, what a racket.
Okay I hd a consultation with EcoWater rep here in CA. My hard water level is 12. I have a 3 bath house but only 2 of us living here. The recommendation was a cabinet style. The cost came in at $6500!!!. No way I can pay that. What do you think about the Genesis units? That’s more my budget. Trying to avoid the big box stores.
What about Culligan and Leaf Home water softeners and filteration for whole family
To me, I would be asking the following questions: 1. Is their product NSF 44 certified - by national sanitation foundation? 2. Is this product made in America? To my knowledge, their products are assembled in America however they are built in China.
How long should a system last?
Professional grade system should last at least 10 years
What family of 4 takes a shower at the same time?
Probably none, but what Drew is talking about is that if your water softener is undersized for the size of the home and family, is that volume of use can overrun the resin media in the water softener. The amount of resin or capacity of a softener only has so much surface area to collect calcium and magnesium, some iron before the resin can no longer pull that out of the water. So if daily volume of water use is beyond the capacity of the softener you’ll have an inefficient system. Your experience might be like “I get nice soft water for a day or 2 after regen but then it feels hard”
What is the cost of the Eco water R40 unit?
Way too much!
What are your thoughts on the eco water iron filter with coconut carbon?
Not a huge fan. I am a fan of their ECR3702 which takes out up to 10ppm of Iron. In addition you want to always test for Iron bacteria because that will change the type of Iron filter you will buy.
Eco-water is a propriety item and is sold strictly through Eco-water. Very expensive to own one of these systems and you cannot in their eyes maintain your own system yourself you have to call on them. Service call is expensive also. I bought my Unit 20 years ago just under 4,000 dollars. I will never buy from them again.
What you did buy was an American Made product in an industry of Chinese Junk. Today Ecowater is made in Mississippi. I am sorry the local dealer in your area was not that great.. But 20 years ago!!! Ummm Hello.. We find the Big Box Stuff lasting 2 to 4 years at $600. It sounds like you got your moneys worth to me.. Sticker Company products lasts maybe 7 years. We service every make and model.. I am simply sharing our experience of 50 years.