On my God me too. All the murder, adultery, drugs, lying and apparently magic going on, and I was just super happy that the kitty was okay. Super cute and fwuffy too!
Yeah, that was definitely the weakest part of this story. I couldn't understand why she still cared about Adele at all at that point. Sure, call the cops, but who in their right mind would actually go over there? much less all the astral projection nonsense. I did not enjoy the final 10 minutes. I was hoping for a very different story than what this turned out to be. (I haven't read the book and now have zero interest in doing so, but that's probably obvious by my comment.)
I can't stop thinking about that poor kid. 😭 That's the worst part for me, for some reason. He lost his mom but has no idea why or how, and he's now stuck with this total psychopath. Hopefully dad gets full custody. 🥺
I thought this to and I was lowkey surprised that rob did not leave Adam with his dad and stepmom it makes sense only seeing him sometimes he should have just left Adam with his dad
This is more or less what the author explains in the last pages of her book. She said it's about how when women get jealous they obsess about the other woman more than about the man they want (her words not mine).
I also felt bad for David, talking about how Adele used to “sparkle” and “didn’t know where the girl he saved in the fire went”. And now he married louise thinking she “sparkled” super blind again to the fact she is also gone.... all the women he has loved killed by this dude
Adele's actress is amazing. While watching the series I was like: "Young Adele acts and looks SO DIFFERENT from older Adele. There is something missing" and that was what made me realize the switch before they showed it. She did an amazing job.
louise's lack of common sense throughout the entire show annoyed me the most. i get that it had been a long time since something exciting happened in her life and that she was bored out of her mind, but these people had so many red flags, and yet she kept mingling with them and even trying to play the detective so recklessly, when she had a son that she needed to protect. also, i don't understand why she didn't just call the police when she thought adele was gonna k*ll herself and why she thought it was a better idea to SLEEP outside a burning house and astral project, as if that could help in any way. that decision made no sense, even for louise's standards.
I just watched this yesterday and also wondered why she thought astral projection would be helpful in that situation. I enjoyed the show but hate that part. It was lame. Any normal person would have called 999.
@@msjkramey But I still don't see how it was supposed to help. That's my issue w/it. It doesn't even make sense if she was panicking. I haven't read the book, but from the tv show, we only saw that ppl could project themselves and see things but not interact w/the environment. So, why did she think that would help? There was literally no reason for her to do that. Good show, but that threw me. LOL!
Well that's a good point, but my question outside of this is how was Adele-Rob SO sure Louise would astral project so that he could take her body because, as you guys pointed out, it makes no sense for Louise to do that in the first place... So how was that part of the plan?
I saw the biggest hint in the colour of their projections. Adele's was pink, Rob had blue, Louise green. But the current Adele suddenly had a blue projection, so that was weird... and then it all made sense.
I didn't notice Adele's colour cause I was too upset Louise's colour wasn't yellow. Cause from her real life and dreams it was obvious yellow was her colour.
This might be a weird thing to say but as a former heroin addict if I had the chance to move into someone else's body that WASN'T addicted/dope sick, the last thing I would do is start doing dope in their body too. He just got to skip the entire withdrawal process, something I still have nightmares about. I realize this is tangential to the points in the video at best but still
@@ArturGlass.C I mean.. I can't say it doesn't depict it sensibly I guess. I came at the concept from an "I really want to quit, it's just so painfully desperately difficult" angle, because I was ready to quit and did. But if I were to comment on this several years ago, I would have said "oh God yeah the tolerance on this new body is gonna be so low I can stop spending $300 a day and only spend $30 to get as high" so.. it all depends on how you feel about quitting. Why am I talking about this premise like its a real thing, lol
@@ArturGlass.C Are you referring to Rob? He actually states multiple times that rehab is a waste of time because he doesn’t want to quit and ppl should understand that some just enjoy using drugs.
Forget lucid dreaming and astral projection - I don't believe a bald white dude like that would instantaneously know how to handle a black person's hair so perfectly 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he low key styled it better than her. I was so mad at that stiff wig they had her on and it looked so dry. Even though the actress was so good and beautiful this is an example of why black makeup and hairstylist are important because the current staff did her hair terribly.
@@leah_beaute but that was the point. In the book she was overweight so that was her insecurity that lead her to be with David. The actress wasn't overweight so they portrayed her insecurities thru her wack ass outfits while awake and wrapped up hair like she aint give a fuck about her appearance. Notice she never wore heals until the gay man was inside of her. Now it's more apparent that gay men think women wear heals to be more appealing to men but its really how a gay man thinks about how to be a woman that's emphasized by the lack of appearance from the "real woman"
They gave away that Adele was Rob by the color of his Aura. As soon as they showed Rob and Adele and blue and purple orbs, I knew Adele was Rob. There were blue wisps at the corner of the screen while he was watching them in earlier episodes...so the ending wasn’t even a surprise.
It was surprising for me. I was watching while doing other things so I didn't notice the aura colors until that fire scene. It was a surprising twist. I didn't watch any trailers or anything so I didn't even know it would be a thriller. Louise's stupid choices lost me but the ending brought me back.
Yeah but it doesnt show robs color until the end anyway so if you pick up on that its only slightly earlier than the actual reveal, I dont mind it being possible to figure out twists a llittle earlier
wait i 1000% thought the Lucy Hale cutout was like human sized up against the wall far behind you the fact that its within reaching distance blows my mind
If you need me I'll be watching Gone Girl Also my brain was POSITIVE it was saying Astral Projection after it stops being lucid dreaming so... just... don't mind me
Ya the book is better but I didn’t like how they kind of put that friend soooo in your face bc it made it more obvious that he had a big role in it verse in the book it was so shocking it was him at the end
I haven't read the book when I watched the series. I believed that the husband had killed the friend and I absolutely liked how they composed the ending.
The show kind of made it obvious when they assigned colours to their floating spirits or whatever. You saw in the flashback that Rob was blue and Adele was purple, then in the present "Adele's" was blue. I did like how the show made the comparison of Rob and Anthony more obvious. They were both drug users who obsessed over one person. Rob first obsessed with Adele then David, Anthony obsessed with David, then Adele. Both of them switched the target of their obsessions quickly.
As a former heroin user who saw many people struggle with several bouts of rehab....it’s just as much a mental struggle as it is a physical one. Relapsing after being shut away isn’t something you do because you “just really like” heroin. Liking it has very little to do with it. Most people who are dependent don’t feel the high anymore. It’s just a way to stay feeling normal, like food. A way to stave off the unimaginable pain of withdrawal. The mental struggles of adapting to life without it last for months, during a time when you’d think that you’d be feeling happy and thankful for being free of it. For some people it’s a longer road than it is for others, but opiates are a pretty cruel problem to deal with once dependency becomes part of your life. Just wanted to give my two cents, I know you didn’t mean it in any malignant way or anything. Also, just so people don’t freak out: heroin isn’t habit-forming after one use, no more than anything else. It takes time, which can be shorter or longer depending on who you are. Physical dependency (where you begin to feel withdrawal without it) takes sustained, regular usage to develop (weeks to months, depending on your biology).
I think she stated it that way becasue thats how the character in the show said it. When Adele asks him about the heroin and said she thought he got clean or soemthing he says "i dont want to stop. I really like heroin" or something along those lines
@@kate_seoyeon Of course, not endorsing its use, just providing facts. "Habit-forming" by its very definition requires repeated usage. I'm just reassuring anyone who might have tried it in ignorance or taken opioid prescriptions that they aren't suddenly addicted after a single exposure to it. I personally think that sort of over-the-top scare tactic is unhelpful where education would be better (similar to "abstinence-only sex ed").
The show totally lost me at the end when the house was on fire: like what a great idea to "fall asleep" next to a burning house 🤣 Just Louise being her silly self. It made no sense why she thought it was a solution to lucid dream herself into the house when she can't manipulate objects, etc, it would have made sense if Adele lied she would be able to and L. hasn't tried it herself yet so she got fooled or something. It was so stupid how fast she gave up on trying to enter the house the ordinary way. In my opinion, the twist was too heavily hinted at to actually be a proper surprise, like how they showed Rob & Adele in different colors when they lucid dreamed together.
I agree it felt so... forced? Like idk it was so out of character for Louise to do that, I think it would be more fitting for her to call the police/fire department as soon as she got the message, not try to go there and lucid dream herself into the house... That ending made me soooooooo mad like make it make sense!!
@@lvmln7843 it was pretty clear the plot needed a way for "Adele" to steal her body & they chose the cheapest one to do it. I'm still laughing at how Rob had his whole master plan depending on one stupid decision from Louise. I also got super annoyed at how L. was reading the journal at one point, got to a very shocking part & was like: "guess that's enough for today" and didn't just turn the next page. You'd think she would be tempted to know the what happens next without delaying it, but that won't be convenient for the plot. :D
@@dezzymarlon1622 Rob's most definitely in her body, it's hinted multiple times, we know he stole Adele's body and we saw the color of his astral form (or whatever it's called, it's blue), same one that entered Louise's body.
She did it so she could walk Adele's body out of the building. It was clear to Rob that she would do it since Louise had tried to save Adele already before. The chance that Louise would not have projected was big so it was risky.
That last move didn't make any sense (to me, at least) like why would she astral project inside the house? It's not like she could do anything in that form
Agreed! After watching the series, I read this review for it that said it changed genres halfway through the series, and that's what messed with me the most. I wanted to watch a psychological thriller - not a scifi/body-switching plot. Also, I feel terrible for Adam! I know the book doesn't have a sequel, but I think it'd be interesting to see a grown-up Adam unravel the story of what happened to his mom and deal with Rob once and for all.
I can watch a movie that's fairly boring with a super exciting finale (The Invitation springs to mind), but a six-hour commitment for ten minutes of "awesome"? Yeah, no.
The thing is The Invitation is boring af, while Behind her eyes was interesting the whole time because there was a clear mystery which was slowly revealed (i.e. their past and why their relations are so weird atm). So not comparable at all, also disagree that the series is boring.
@@MissAlmonster Rob ripped the door knob off so she couldn’t get in. I still agree with you thought. I wouldn’t have projected in that situation either.
@@salzkuuu Exactly. You know she is in there and I tried to get in. Why would I do more for this woman that has tried to play me and has been spying on me? haha
I have very mixed feelings, I was actually very invested and affected by the story, I loved the show so much that I even ordered the book, but being a gay dude, I also kinda dislike how it reinforces a very false and unfair stereotype of gay guys getting obsessed with or violating straight guys... In my experience, that's actually one of the things that makes it the most difficult for straight guys to wanna be friends with gay guys, cuz this absolutely stupid stereotype exists in some people's heads... As if all straight men wanna fuck all women, whether if it's a reciprocated attraction or not lol. It doesn't work like that for straight guys OR gay guyd either.
I didn't like how Rob was made to be the villain in the end. He was always so nice and seemed to really care about his friend. Doesn't seemed like him to suddenly be so obsessed with this guy to the point of killing his only friend.
I agree. They (writers of both the book and the show) so easily could have made Rob a straight woman at the asylum with all the same characteristics without villainizing a gay character.
You should totally watch Kennie J.D, if youre not already! She makes amazing videos about awful movies, ranging from movies such as Velocipastor that are so bad they're good, to movies that are just so badly made with awful plots that you have to actually take breaks while watching because they're so bad (Such as a movie about a neo nazi in a mental hospital meeting a black woman who thinks she's hitler)
I love Kennie. I actually went and watched Hot Gimmick Girl Meets Boy because of her review. Took me over 5 hours to watch a 2 hour movie because I had to keep pausing it to walk away.
@@celinahatton2653 Yes!! Same!! I wanted to watch it before her episode and wow..it was painful. But it made her commentary even better, like I was crying from laughter.
@@Rebe8d89AH I wished I could have laughed my way through it. To be honest, I still haven't seen the last 10 minutes of the movie. It was just soooooooo awful 🤣
It's even cooler because in the movie the kid was the son was the only who noticed something wasn't right. I do feel really bad for the son because he knows something is wrong, but doesn't seem like anyone else seems to either care or even notice
I felt that title - Today I read this creepypasta that was incredibly boring but the ending was actually really interesting so it was very boring but at the same time enticing as hell lmao
I remember a short story that had a similar premise, but made more sense. Married woman is cheating with an astral lover, and convinces her husband to learn astral projection so he'll leave his body and the astral guy can steal it.
@@camillad.9003 It was in a collection of short stories inspired by Lovecraft but I cant remember which one. It was an old paperback. I'll see if i can hunt it down.
I was enjoying the story & build up except as soon as she received a self harm text and didn't call police, saw fire and didn't call fire brigade took me right out of it. You just would. And then the whole last sequence was dependant on Louise choosing to go to sleep instead of calling 999- if she had done anything else (which you would) then the body swap wouldn't have happened. I also thought the way that David is so relieved at the end got me thinking that maybe he's been in on it the whole time, knew it was Rob in the body and was picking the next body for him to have- now that would have been a great twist!
I personally loved it because of the twist and the fact it had a dark skinned lead where her race wasn't the focus of the story. I get the criticism though, especially about the story having homophobic/transphobic undertones. I think because they didn't make Rob's whole character based around his sexuality (which is new for Netflix writing), I saw his obsession with David and desire to switch as him wanting a better life. Adele was wealthy, attractive and had someone who loved her, Rob was an addict, had a shitty sister and no place to call his own. Had Adele been a man, I have no doubt Rob would have done the same thing. But I can see how this could be harmful a la JK Rowling.
If all Rob was obsessed with was a better life, or as he puts it: being pretty and having money, he could have very well divorce David, and live his new life in Adele's body on his own from then on. But he clearly gets mad jealous of every woman that gets David's affection, going so far to kill another one and steal her body. I don't think there is space to read this in a way where Rob isn't presented at the crazy obsessive gay man going after the straight guy and that's just yikes.
@@ramem8957 he was obsessed w Adele, he wanted Adele's full life including being loved by David. Putting him has "a crazy gay man obsessed w a straight guy" even tho his obsession was w Adele and the fact that she had everything that he never could or would have is more stereotyping then anything in the movie bc is ignoring the fact that the character himself and his history it's deeper than just being "the gay guy", so yeah I understand the critique bc stereotyping gay people has villains is definitely a thing, but I still don't think that's what is happening here Ps: About the transphobic undertones I don't feel like having a opinion bc I'm a cis gay man anyways
Louise called 112 (European emergency number) in the cab, the fire department just didn't come yet so she wanted to save "Adele"... somehow. It still didn't make sense that she stayed outside a burning building UNCONCIOUS, but yeah... she did call for help.
haven't heard the twist, just got to the part where Adele says she had night terrors, gonna call it now: Rob is Adele. We are going full Haunting of Bly Manor on this shit. There's a well, there's a Peter accent, there's someone acting weird and saying things that don't fully fit them, there's lucid dream things going on, there's probably a lady in a lake somewhere: Rob is Adele.
@@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat I mean no, it’s definitely stereotype, same with a woman secretly being a man and being dangerous. Just because _you_ don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not stigmatizing.
The part where Amanda mentioned the cat was unintentionally amusing, since my cat had pulled a Georgie earlier today and I called the non-emergency police line for the first time in my life to report that my cat had gone into the sewer.
@@MarielaQue but the pigeon is there when she first does the dirty with David. It’s like Adele is saying Run while you can!! In all seriousness, that could also be the case 😅
David gives off super non mistakeable red flags, he's dishonest, hot headed and controlling... I mean... What did the show try to tell us with making him the good guy after all? Also from David's perspective, he doesn't know about the magic stuff, he basically only knows that Adele does not feel guilty about her friend overdosing and that she gets jealous and vengeful when she suspects him being unfaithful. How does that justify him forcing her to take strong antipsychotic pills every day? Or controlling where she goes?
That really bothers me too. Hey netflix-watching abusive husband, you wouldn't have to control you wife if she would just stay "the same person you married!" Not your fault, actually all part of the gay agenda...
@@madeleinebailly2716 I don't think he does blame "her" for the murder. He thinks it will look suspicious to the authorities, but he thinks it was an accidental overdose.
Now that I’ve seen this commentary I do see that this series lost a lot of its potential. It could have been so much more mysterious and scary. However I do still like this series, especially because I just feel so bad for David and Adele. David genuinely thought his childhood love and wife was a fucking nutter/murder when in actuality she was already dead. And not only was she dead but who she was and how good of a person she was was ruined by rob forever in David’s eyes. And is Adele at peace? Probably not, so it highly likely she’s just ghosting around David watching all this shit. In conclusion...fuck rob.
After watching the series I realized that the reason that David got inraged when Adele said she was going for coffee was that his last fling was with the woman who worked in the coffee shop and Adele said that to stir the pot.
i liked it, it was entertaining. i watched it last week and at the it was received really well but days later i see a whole bunch of people saying they didnt like it for various reasons and i was surprised bc i didnt feel the "bury your gays" trope w this one & the ending was sufficient
It seemed like the end was trying to be really sad and shocking but maybe they didn't really put in the character development to deserve the big emotions.
Not to set expectations too high for you, but it's a straight up masterpiece! Shameless plug: A buddy and I did a review of it on our channel, Sad Stan Productions, if you wanna check it out after you guys watch the movie.
I was always interested in the concept of Lucid Dreaming and stuff so i was gomma watch it.. Then when i realized it's also astral projection it got more interesting and the last 10 minutes were fucking insane.. So for me it was good.
I was so confused when you were saying lucid dream spying, I am like...that isn’t how lucid dreaming works. Then you said astral-projection and that made way more sense.
I mean, he did still legally cheat on her... But being on the situation he was in, I would divorce her (as he doesn't really love her anymore) and make sure she gets the help she needs.
I watched this series because I love thrillers, and kept waiting for it to get interesting and then astral projecting cool, fine and Robert is suspicious but the ending and poor Adam sad little face was like uh?! So yeah I didn´t like it, wasn´t the worst but it is true that the characters are underveloped.
You said exactly what I thought when watching the show, like why wouldn’t you call the police or fire fighters first if you saw a house burning. What the hell was she trying to achieve by astral projecting in that moment, it was so incredibly stupid. I felt so sorry for Adam, that’s the part that disturbed me the most. And yeah it was very slow burn and kind of boring almost until the last episode.
I watched this one a while ago when it was first released on Netflix. I don't remember all of the details. Your channel is just so much more entertaining than rewatching this movie that I will watch you talk about it instead. Thanks for posting all these movies to keep my brain occupied while I get stuff done 😊
Kinda wish the author wrote little hints to this, for example: Adele didn’t care about money, had no fashion since Rob being obsessed with money and loving clothes When Rob was Adele all the sudden she is always shopping and dresses very well.
Interesting to see that an abusive relationship can actually push someone into cheating, and then it creates a "well, you cheated, so you are the baddie here"
I saw the twist coming a mile off, I felt like I should want the hours I watched it back but hey! I watched it on the weekend and was feeling lazy and it was perfect for my mood. Also, I used to live in London so I was entertained by the shots of London in this, and the property porn aspects of it. David and Adele's house and garden was gorgeous. And I loved Louise's flat (apartment) too. So I won't watch it again and won't be thinking about it but it was ok.
I just watched this the end of the movie I was like holy F... and I totally feel for Adam he looked so sad in the back seat I might watch the next one if they make it.
I think (mostly based on your video since I haven't watched the show lol) what probably could've saved the show is if the bodyswap happened at the halfway point. So Louis is fighting to get her body back, still thinking it's Adele who stole it, and then at the end we still gain the twist that it was actually Rob the whole time. This could potentially change the ending, but I think it would've helped the story pick up the pace a bit and gain a bit more momentum. Also just the whole show having a bodyswap conflict would've been REALLY intriguing, I don't see that super often.
Does anyone else get a creepy vibe from an author writing a gay dude who forcefully enters a lady's body so he can be with another dude? Kinda gives me a JK Rowling's "Troubled Blood" feeling. Low-to-high-key homophobia/transphobia vibes. Like, interesting twist, I guess, but also a deeply harmful cliché/trope (man who becomes a woman = predator).
I personally didn't see this as a problem, it was clear that Rob didn't do what he did just because his whole personality was being gay. They laid out his desperation to escape his horrid life of poverty, abuse and addiction and he only did this because he was a selfish/greedy for someone else's life. I don't think there's anything wrong with writing a complex villain who's gay and is selfish in his desire for another man. I personally don't want to see boring/perfect gay characters with no "problematic" characterizations or motivations because that isn't realistic. Especially in a supernatural story-line that would give a bad person the ability to do crazy shit. But if you didn't like it, that's understandable
Eh, is not like gay people can't do no wrong. Plus Rob's motivation wasn't just banging David, he also envied Adele's money, freedom and beauty 🤷🏻♀️ oh, and he was junkie
Maybe I've read/watched too many weird stories, but I saw the final twist coming a mile away. Like what would be the most obvious "totally unexpected shocking twist" here :D
This has almost NOTHING to do with the vid but I'm so psyched to hear Amanda mention Speed Racer! That movie is criminally underrated, I think it's legitimately fantastic and nails the over the top sports anime vibe.
Honestly, I think it's the only live action movie from anime that doesn't 1. suck or 2. Seems problimatic to like for reasons beyond the actual movie. I love Speed Racer so much!!!!!!
I really enjoyed this show right until the ending, then I hated it. It did have clichés and it was all a bit kitchen-sink drama for my usual tastes but it was engaging enough after episode 2, I liked that the protagonist was a black single mom (I was a little taken out by the fact that this black woman working seemingly three days a week as a receptionist could apparently afford a fair sized two-bedroom flat in London but hey I guess the show doesn't have to go there if it doesn't want to) and I liked that one of the important side characters was a gay man from Glasgow from a poor background who dealt with personal demons that didn't boil down to "he's suffering for being gay". The story became more enthralling, I wanted to know what was up with Adele and David, the show knew how to have fun sometimes which I appreciated. Even the astral projecting didn't take me out too much, usually I'd find it too fantastical in this sort of show but they were having fun with it, though it was obvious they'd be a big twist at the end regarding it. I even predicted that body swapping was going to be a thing, but I figured it would be revealed that David and Rob had body swapped and that's why 'David' had become so disillusioned with the relationship after his original body was killed and he wasn't happy anymore all after he'd been so enamoured with Adele and her lifestyle. I even figured that's why it was shown early on that David didn't enjoy sex with Adele and preferred anal sex with her instead (obviously I was wrong about all of that, also that would have still been horrible to portray, a gay man trying to force himself to have sex with a woman). Anyway then the shit hit the fan. Louise just kept making bad, unjustifiable decisions, and genuinely why did she astral project when Adele was in the burning house? She didn't know body swapping was possible did she? Earlier in the series she broke a window to 'save' Adele so why wasn't that an option in her head? At first I thought the show was going for a nuanced portrayal of Adele. She's a bit emotionally immature and her perfect fairytale life with the perfect guy and all her money just don't fulfil her, and something clearly happened in the past that ruined that relationship anyway and now David has become this distant, resentful man who just can't love this woman anymore but he feels locked in. But no Adele's just crazy, except she isn't because she's actually Rob. And Rob's just crazy. He's a drug-addicted, jealous, manipulative, crazy person. Also his name's Rob, because he's going to rob this woman of her body and lifestyle and husband. So yeah according to this show, watch out for gay men. Watch out for the poor. Don't give those gay poors anything, not friendship or even healthy ways to alleviate their suffering. They'll just abuse your gifts and your trust and ruin the lives of the rich straight folk. Like that isn't even subtext, it's the text of the show. It's the final message. Maybe it wouldn't be if they'd explored Louise's situation a bit more. Again she's a single black mother living in London with her kid and pre-existing health issues but she doesn't struggle economically at all? They even made a point in the map scene that she doesn't live near David "how the other side live", she isn't rich like them at all. Maybe she could have been a poor person mixed up between these two unhappy rich people, she could have made better choices based on her having a kid, or not living the same lifestyle of those two. She could have walked away from these two rich people who take everything for granted and can't stop torturing each other. But no the show ends with Louise dead, Adam's lost his mother, David's going to be miserable again after Rob/Louise threatens a waitress for smiling at David, and the only gay man in the show is going to continue ruining these straight people's lives because he's a malicious, life stealing, predatory, poor gay man, who also knows how to correctly wash, dry and maintain a black woman's hair. Not a bad thing but even I, myself a poor lgbt+ white man, knows that it isn't the same as white women's hair.
I was not expecting the plot twist to be "the only gay character on the show is the one true villain, stealing women's bodies to trick a straight guy to sleep with him", like... I don't know, it makes me feel some kind of way that I do not particularly like.
hi gay man here. totally get you feel that way but I didn't get that feeling at all. It was more of a terrible human being who felt so alone and was willing to do anything to not feel alone. We also do have to remember that there are some terrible people out there regardless of sexuality - although i can see your point if someone who isn't as open to the LGBT community that this movie can be taken to that extent.
They've been doing a lot of movies/series like this..or like the Lifetime movies with a twist, like Deadly Illusions or WIthin. They all feel like a typical Lifetime drama but then they have a twist at the end and no one wins.
I have only watched this video but honestly i enjoyed this story. I don't know if id sit and watch it now and i feel kinda bad but maybe when i have more time
Has total “Stranger with my Face” by Louis Duncan vibes! This seems a bit more convoluted though lol. Not gonna lie but, that book creeped the hell out of 12 year old me.
So what you're telling me is this is another show/movie where the main character luckily for once is a person of color but like usual doesn't have any personality in comparison to the light characters But it's kind of even worse because she's sort of a sex toy that's being thrown between the two main white characters and then ends up being murdered at the end So yeah it sounds to me like they hit all the black character tropes
I let out a massive sigh of relief when Amanda reassured us the cat was ok. She understands her audience.
That was for me too I paused the show to look up the info I don't need that in my life
Haven't even gotten to the cat part yet, but I am preemptively relieved.
On my God me too. All the murder, adultery, drugs, lying and apparently magic going on, and I was just super happy that the kitty was okay. Super cute and fwuffy too!
Sameee, I was like I will riot if this cat isn't okay and was audibly relieved when I saw it was fine
I'm relieved as well.. No really I am.
This should be called, "Instead of calling the cops..."
LOL! I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t think brits call cops like that 😂
Yeah, that was definitely the weakest part of this story. I couldn't understand why she still cared about Adele at all at that point. Sure, call the cops, but who in their right mind would actually go over there? much less all the astral projection nonsense. I did not enjoy the final 10 minutes. I was hoping for a very different story than what this turned out to be. (I haven't read the book and now have zero interest in doing so, but that's probably obvious by my comment.)
Trust no coo 🤭🤭🤭 btw do they ahow up quickly in the UK? Because they take their time to get to the place in here
@@Lady.2411 They'd call if they thought someone was going to kill themselves or if there was a fire
I can't stop thinking about that poor kid. 😭 That's the worst part for me, for some reason. He lost his mom but has no idea why or how, and he's now stuck with this total psychopath. Hopefully dad gets full custody. 🥺
Oh, no, that kid is dead. Super dead. And it's going to be looked at like an accident.
This just makes me worry if he’ll astral project to the kid event
@@cidevant002 Adam was very smart maybe he figure out some how and he grows older
I thought this to and I was lowkey surprised that rob did not leave Adam with his dad and stepmom it makes sense only seeing him sometimes he should have just left Adam with his dad
@@kkandsims4612 it’s to keep the facade because David would def dislike Louise for no longer being the doting mother she claimed/seemed to be.
This miniseries is about the consequences of not minding your own business.
💯. We actually did a commentary of it on our channel, you should check it out 😊
This is more or less what the author explains in the last pages of her book. She said it's about how when women get jealous they obsess about the other woman more than about the man they want (her words not mine).
Perfect 😂😂
I also felt bad for David, talking about how Adele used to “sparkle” and “didn’t know where the girl he saved in the fire went”. And now he married louise thinking she “sparkled” super blind again to the fact she is also gone.... all the women he has loved killed by this dude
I wonder if he'll be the one ending up at asylum if that goes on... cause clearly he'll start to think if he'll ever stay "sparkle" with someone.
True. I want another season 😩 I want to know if david can ever really escape rob.
It was a mind-trip, because David wasn’t unfaithful. His wife had already died and he was moving on to someone else. And he was raped.
When I got to the end I was like "what did this guys David ever do to anyone!". Felt pretty bad for him.
@@Redorgreenful 😨😨😨😨😨 OMG, you are so right!!!
Adele's actress is amazing. While watching the series I was like: "Young Adele acts and looks SO DIFFERENT from older Adele. There is something missing" and that was what made me realize the switch before they showed it. She did an amazing job.
louise's lack of common sense throughout the entire show annoyed me the most. i get that it had been a long time since something exciting happened in her life and that she was bored out of her mind, but these people had so many red flags, and yet she kept mingling with them and even trying to play the detective so recklessly, when she had a son that she needed to protect. also, i don't understand why she didn't just call the police when she thought adele was gonna k*ll herself and why she thought it was a better idea to SLEEP outside a burning house and astral project, as if that could help in any way. that decision made no sense, even for louise's standards.
I just watched this yesterday and also wondered why she thought astral projection would be helpful in that situation. I enjoyed the show but hate that part. It was lame. Any normal person would have called 999.
@@la214la she did but panicked. Still dumb, but I get the panic response leading to something stupid
@@msjkramey But I still don't see how it was supposed to help. That's my issue w/it. It doesn't even make sense if she was panicking. I haven't read the book, but from the tv show, we only saw that ppl could project themselves and see things but not interact w/the environment. So, why did she think that would help? There was literally no reason for her to do that. Good show, but that threw me. LOL!
Well that's a good point, but my question outside of this is how was Adele-Rob SO sure Louise would astral project so that he could take her body because, as you guys pointed out, it makes no sense for Louise to do that in the first place... So how was that part of the plan?
@@kyfra5257 good point. This show generally is full of plot holes
It has a cool concept but the execution was very mediocre
I saw the biggest hint in the colour of their projections. Adele's was pink, Rob had blue, Louise green. But the current Adele suddenly had a blue projection, so that was weird... and then it all made sense.
When I was first watching it, I didn't connect the colours. I was too distracted by the adultery.
I didn't notice Adele's colour cause I was too upset Louise's colour wasn't yellow. Cause from her real life and dreams it was obvious yellow was her colour.
@@MarielaQue Eh I was angry at how the story went, so I started focusing on the minor things to forget the rest.
Me the same!!!!! Good job sis!
SAME
This might be a weird thing to say but as a former heroin addict if I had the chance to move into someone else's body that WASN'T addicted/dope sick, the last thing I would do is start doing dope in their body too. He just got to skip the entire withdrawal process, something I still have nightmares about. I realize this is tangential to the points in the video at best but still
This entire premise seems tone deaf as fuck in so many area, I wouldn't be surprised it doesn't portray addiction sensibly.
@@ArturGlass.C I mean.. I can't say it doesn't depict it sensibly I guess. I came at the concept from an "I really want to quit, it's just so painfully desperately difficult" angle, because I was ready to quit and did. But if I were to comment on this several years ago, I would have said "oh God yeah the tolerance on this new body is gonna be so low I can stop spending $300 a day and only spend $30 to get as high" so.. it all depends on how you feel about quitting. Why am I talking about this premise like its a real thing, lol
@@katevgrady Tbf I think the person was supposed to want to quit in the story and don't worry about it, it's interesting.
@@ArturGlass.C
Are you referring to Rob? He actually states multiple times that rehab is a waste of time because he doesn’t want to quit and ppl should understand that some just enjoy using drugs.
He states multiple times he doesn't want to stop so that's probably why
I love how you kept the Lucy Hale cardboard cut out in the background. Truly your own guardian angel 😅😅
For the culture
@@AmandaTheJedi in the name of Aria Montgomery
Hale-lleluja
@@AmandaTheJedi Lucy Hale was in 'Fantasy Island' recently, will you review that movie? I'm here for that! 🤣
@@insane911g She already did, that’s why she bought the cut out in the first place.
Forget lucid dreaming and astral projection - I don't believe a bald white dude like that would instantaneously know how to handle a black person's hair so perfectly 😂
Well you can never know who can do black hair. And also, Louise was wearing a wig so it doesn't matter.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he low key styled it better than her. I was so mad at that stiff wig they had her on and it looked so dry. Even though the actress was so good and beautiful this is an example of why black makeup and hairstylist are important because the current staff did her hair terribly.
@@leah_beaute lmaooo he did do a better job than her. But irl she is beautiful tho without that thing on her head.
@@nikki562 💯 agree she is so beautiful. they should have just let her wear her natural hair instead of that wig.
@@leah_beaute but that was the point. In the book she was overweight so that was her insecurity that lead her to be with David. The actress wasn't overweight so they portrayed her insecurities thru her wack ass outfits while awake and wrapped up hair like she aint give a fuck about her appearance. Notice she never wore heals until the gay man was inside of her. Now it's more apparent that gay men think women wear heals to be more appealing to men but its really how a gay man thinks about how to be a woman that's emphasized by the lack of appearance from the "real woman"
The best part of this video is the fact that the cat was ok
Yeah I paused while watching to check if the cat was okay before I let the scene play out
@@AmandaTheJedi I would have checked spoilers online first just to be safe hehe :P
@@AmandaTheJedi You're really worried about the cat? The cat's fine.
@@Wildmetalhead - I was super worried and watched that scene from behind my fingers.
I was like "oh thank god"
They gave away that Adele was Rob by the color of his Aura. As soon as they showed Rob and Adele and blue and purple orbs, I knew Adele was Rob. There were blue wisps at the corner of the screen while he was watching them in earlier episodes...so the ending wasn’t even a surprise.
Yep same, so it all wasn't that surprising. I still weirdly liked it??? Mostly I'm just bored I think hehe
It was surprising for me. I was watching while doing other things so I didn't notice the aura colors until that fire scene. It was a surprising twist. I didn't watch any trailers or anything so I didn't even know it would be a thriller. Louise's stupid choices lost me but the ending brought me back.
Yeah but it doesnt show robs color until the end anyway so if you pick up on that its only slightly earlier than the actual reveal, I dont mind it being possible to figure out twists a llittle earlier
Luckily i was too dumb to notice xD so I was completelly surprised of the twisr
As someone who was embroidering during this shoe, I did not see that.
wait i 1000% thought the Lucy Hale cutout was like human sized up against the wall far behind you the fact that its within reaching distance blows my mind
It is!
How tall do you think her wall is? Lol
Fun fact it is life size, Lucy hale is just very small
If you need me I'll be watching Gone Girl
Also my brain was POSITIVE it was saying Astral Projection after it stops being lucid dreaming so... just... don't mind me
Can I join?
Or The Skelton Key
And I'll be watching WandaVision (like everyone else)
Have you seen The Old Guard ?
I wonder if you would like Ginny and Georgia 🤔. It’s a new show on Netflix that I like to describe as trash, but good trash. It’s entertaining trash
Ya the book is better but I didn’t like how they kind of put that friend soooo in your face bc it made it more obvious that he had a big role in it verse in the book it was so shocking it was him at the end
yeah I read the book after but it's easy to see that it would have been more effective that way
Maybe.. but i definitely think it was still very unpredictable
I haven't read the book when I watched the series. I believed that the husband had killed the friend and I absolutely liked how they composed the ending.
@@AmandaTheJedi i kind wanna read the book now...is it good?
The show kind of made it obvious when they assigned colours to their floating spirits or whatever. You saw in the flashback that Rob was blue and Adele was purple, then in the present "Adele's" was blue. I did like how the show made the comparison of Rob and Anthony more obvious. They were both drug users who obsessed over one person. Rob first obsessed with Adele then David, Anthony obsessed with David, then Adele. Both of them switched the target of their obsessions quickly.
As a former heroin user who saw many people struggle with several bouts of rehab....it’s just as much a mental struggle as it is a physical one. Relapsing after being shut away isn’t something you do because you “just really like” heroin. Liking it has very little to do with it. Most people who are dependent don’t feel the high anymore. It’s just a way to stay feeling normal, like food. A way to stave off the unimaginable pain of withdrawal. The mental struggles of adapting to life without it last for months, during a time when you’d think that you’d be feeling happy and thankful for being free of it.
For some people it’s a longer road than it is for others, but opiates are a pretty cruel problem to deal with once dependency becomes part of your life. Just wanted to give my two cents, I know you didn’t mean it in any malignant way or anything.
Also, just so people don’t freak out: heroin isn’t habit-forming after one use, no more than anything else. It takes time, which can be shorter or longer depending on who you are. Physical dependency (where you begin to feel withdrawal without it) takes sustained, regular usage to develop (weeks to months, depending on your biology).
However, do NOT try heroin just because it's supposedly not habit-forming after one use, SpontaneousH would tell you different.
I think she stated it that way becasue thats how the character in the show said it. When Adele asks him about the heroin and said she thought he got clean or soemthing he says "i dont want to stop. I really like heroin" or something along those lines
@@baileyvw Ah, makes complete sense then. Like I said, I didn't think she meant it in any negative way anyway.
@@kate_seoyeon Of course, not endorsing its use, just providing facts. "Habit-forming" by its very definition requires repeated usage. I'm just reassuring anyone who might have tried it in ignorance or taken opioid prescriptions that they aren't suddenly addicted after a single exposure to it. I personally think that sort of over-the-top scare tactic is unhelpful where education would be better (similar to "abstinence-only sex ed").
Naw ... If u have a new body .. u just like being high at that point.
The show totally lost me at the end when the house was on fire: like what a great idea to "fall asleep" next to a burning house 🤣 Just Louise being her silly self. It made no sense why she thought it was a solution to lucid dream herself into the house when she can't manipulate objects, etc, it would have made sense if Adele lied she would be able to and L. hasn't tried it herself yet so she got fooled or something. It was so stupid how fast she gave up on trying to enter the house the ordinary way. In my opinion, the twist was too heavily hinted at to actually be a proper surprise, like how they showed Rob & Adele in different colors when they lucid dreamed together.
I agree it felt so... forced? Like idk it was so out of character for Louise to do that, I think it would be more fitting for her to call the police/fire department as soon as she got the message, not try to go there and lucid dream herself into the house... That ending made me soooooooo mad like make it make sense!!
@@lvmln7843 it was pretty clear the plot needed a way for "Adele" to steal her body & they chose the cheapest one to do it. I'm still laughing at how Rob had his whole master plan depending on one stupid decision from Louise. I also got super annoyed at how L. was reading the journal at one point, got to a very shocking part & was like: "guess that's enough for today" and didn't just turn the next page. You'd think she would be tempted to know the what happens next without delaying it, but that won't be convenient for the plot. :D
@@justanotherperfectionistxx4618 so just to be clear... rob is probably in louise body
@@dezzymarlon1622 Rob's most definitely in her body, it's hinted multiple times, we know he stole Adele's body and we saw the color of his astral form (or whatever it's called, it's blue), same one that entered Louise's body.
She did it so she could walk Adele's body out of the building. It was clear to Rob that she would do it since Louise had tried to save Adele already before. The chance that Louise would not have projected was big so it was risky.
Adele should have astral projected into the HR office 💀
That last move didn't make any sense (to me, at least) like why would she astral project inside the house? It's not like she could do anything in that form
@@rodrigohernanmino1372 right? Like what did she think she was gonna do?😒
im dead at this
I really didn't like the ending, was it surprising? Yes.
Surprising = good? No!
And the poor son
I didn’t like it either
Poor baby Adam :(
Agreed! After watching the series, I read this review for it that said it changed genres halfway through the series, and that's what messed with me the most. I wanted to watch a psychological thriller - not a scifi/body-switching plot. Also, I feel terrible for Adam! I know the book doesn't have a sequel, but I think it'd be interesting to see a grown-up Adam unravel the story of what happened to his mom and deal with Rob once and for all.
@@ElocinizationI thought she was going to kill him because the grief would bond them together. Also doesn’t Adam notice a difference
@@sweet__cherry I'm just...... surprised how David jumped ahead to marry her. Like bro, you drew suspicion by not giving an F to Adele's death.
This whole series wouldn't have happend if the protagonist just looked where she was going.
Lol
As a mom it was hard watching a woman choose mediocre d!ck and drama over her own son. I cried for Adam at the end.
I can watch a movie that's fairly boring with a super exciting finale (The Invitation springs to mind), but a six-hour commitment for ten minutes of "awesome"? Yeah, no.
That was my takeaway as well. I'm sure there's a world where this could have been condensed into a super off the walls movie
The thing is The Invitation is boring af, while Behind her eyes was interesting the whole time because there was a clear mystery which was slowly revealed (i.e. their past and why their relations are so weird atm). So not comparable at all, also disagree that the series is boring.
I...I actually liked the invitation ajsjsjdjd
@@Nagutama The Invitation is a really solid movie if your attention span is normal.
I really liked The Invitation too and didn't consider it boring. The tension just grew and grew.
Side note: Like how did Adele know Louise would do what she did at the end? Like that is NOT what I would do, even if I could.
I was thinking about this too! Like, she broke in through the front door glass window once, what's stopping her from doing it again?
@@MissAlmonster Rob ripped the door knob off so she couldn’t get in. I still agree with you thought. I wouldn’t have projected in that situation either.
And what is projecting gonna do? You’re just gonna watch “Adele” die? Like what was the point
@@salzkuuu Exactly lol.
@@salzkuuu Exactly. You know she is in there and I tried to get in. Why would I do more for this woman that has tried to play me and has been spying on me? haha
I have very mixed feelings, I was actually very invested and affected by the story, I loved the show so much that I even ordered the book, but being a gay dude, I also kinda dislike how it reinforces a very false and unfair stereotype of gay guys getting obsessed with or violating straight guys... In my experience, that's actually one of the things that makes it the most difficult for straight guys to wanna be friends with gay guys, cuz this absolutely stupid stereotype exists in some people's heads... As if all straight men wanna fuck all women, whether if it's a reciprocated attraction or not lol. It doesn't work like that for straight guys OR gay guyd either.
I didn't like how Rob was made to be the villain in the end. He was always so nice and seemed to really care about his friend.
Doesn't seemed like him to suddenly be so obsessed with this guy to the point of killing his only friend.
Agreed. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
I agree. They (writers of both the book and the show) so easily could have made Rob a straight woman at the asylum with all the same characteristics without villainizing a gay character.
You should totally watch Kennie J.D, if youre not already! She makes amazing videos about awful movies, ranging from movies such as Velocipastor that are so bad they're good, to movies that are just so badly made with awful plots that you have to actually take breaks while watching because they're so bad (Such as a movie about a neo nazi in a mental hospital meeting a black woman who thinks she's hitler)
I love Kennie. I actually went and watched Hot Gimmick Girl Meets Boy because of her review. Took me over 5 hours to watch a 2 hour movie because I had to keep pausing it to walk away.
Bad movies and a beat what is up home skillet biscuit 🤗
I love Kennie!!!
@@celinahatton2653 Yes!! Same!! I wanted to watch it before her episode and wow..it was painful. But it made her commentary even better, like I was crying from laughter.
@@Rebe8d89AH I wished I could have laughed my way through it. To be honest, I still haven't seen the last 10 minutes of the movie. It was just soooooooo awful 🤣
(Spoiler) The ending where Louise looks at Adam is the exact same scene in Us where Lupita Nyongo looks at her kid. That was an amazing ending
It's even cooler because in the movie the kid was the son was the only who noticed something wasn't right. I do feel really bad for the son because he knows something is wrong, but doesn't seem like anyone else seems to either care or even notice
Amanda always coming into clutch when there are shows that are too boring, that I can't finish them, but I want to know what happens.
For Real...
Lol. I always end up checking out Wikipedia to see what happens.
I felt that title - Today I read this creepypasta that was incredibly boring but the ending was actually really interesting so it was very boring but at the same time enticing as hell lmao
whats the name of it?
Yes what was it?
I remember a short story that had a similar premise, but made more sense. Married woman is cheating with an astral lover, and convinces her husband to learn astral projection so he'll leave his body and the astral guy can steal it.
I would have prefered that story to this one.
seems very interesting! What’s the story called?
Name?
What's it called?
@@camillad.9003 It was in a collection of short stories inspired by Lovecraft but I cant remember which one. It was an old paperback. I'll see if i can hunt it down.
I was enjoying the story & build up except as soon as she received a self harm text and didn't call police, saw fire and didn't call fire brigade took me right out of it. You just would. And then the whole last sequence was dependant on Louise choosing to go to sleep instead of calling 999- if she had done anything else (which you would) then the body swap wouldn't have happened. I also thought the way that David is so relieved at the end got me thinking that maybe he's been in on it the whole time, knew it was Rob in the body and was picking the next body for him to have- now that would have been a great twist!
I personally loved it because of the twist and the fact it had a dark skinned lead where her race wasn't the focus of the story. I get the criticism though, especially about the story having homophobic/transphobic undertones. I think because they didn't make Rob's whole character based around his sexuality (which is new for Netflix writing), I saw his obsession with David and desire to switch as him wanting a better life. Adele was wealthy, attractive and had someone who loved her, Rob was an addict, had a shitty sister and no place to call his own. Had Adele been a man, I have no doubt Rob would have done the same thing. But I can see how this could be harmful a la JK Rowling.
If all Rob was obsessed with was a better life, or as he puts it: being pretty and having money, he could have very well divorce David, and live his new life in Adele's body on his own from then on. But he clearly gets mad jealous of every woman that gets David's affection, going so far to kill another one and steal her body. I don't think there is space to read this in a way where Rob isn't presented at the crazy obsessive gay man going after the straight guy and that's just yikes.
@@ramem8957
Remember when he asks what it’s like to be love or to love?
@@naturalbodyandskincare9965 yes? could you elaborate on your point?
@@ramem8957 he was obsessed w Adele, he wanted Adele's full life including being loved by David. Putting him has "a crazy gay man obsessed w a straight guy" even tho his obsession was w Adele and the fact that she had everything that he never could or would have is more stereotyping then anything in the movie bc is ignoring the fact that the character himself and his history it's deeper than just being "the gay guy", so yeah I understand the critique bc stereotyping gay people has villains is definitely a thing, but I still don't think that's what is happening here
Ps: About the transphobic undertones I don't feel like having a opinion bc I'm a cis gay man anyways
"bopped by the drug lass" is the best sentence I've heard all week.
Louise called 112 (European emergency number) in the cab, the fire department just didn't come yet so she wanted to save "Adele"... somehow. It still didn't make sense that she stayed outside a burning building UNCONCIOUS, but yeah... she did call for help.
I was very confused until the last 2 episodes and then "WTF"....this could've been more adequately condensed. Poor Adam!
haven't heard the twist, just got to the part where Adele says she had night terrors, gonna call it now: Rob is Adele. We are going full Haunting of Bly Manor on this shit. There's a well, there's a Peter accent, there's someone acting weird and saying things that don't fully fit them, there's lucid dream things going on, there's probably a lady in a lake somewhere: Rob is Adele.
Fun fact: Eve Hewson is the daughter of Bono from the band U2.
Ohhh, she looks like Bono's wife and that's beautiful. ❤️
"just don't go anywheres" - Amanda the Jedi.
That's exactly what I told the people I've locked in my basement.
Omg Amanda liked it 😳❤️
Someone needs to call HR-
You have two women who are killed by a gay man, so he could be with a straight guy. The stereotype tropes are screaming out to me.
😂 Excellent story. Didn't even notice stereotypes. Maybe over thinking there.
@@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat I mean no, it’s definitely stereotype, same with a woman secretly being a man and being dangerous. Just because _you_ don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not stigmatizing.
@@DeathnoteBB not really but sure keep on acting dramatic for attention as usual 🙃
@@nofilterbtxh5000 I literally want less attention, that’s my entire point.
I totally agree! Like why does it have to be a gay man that is the "real" bad guy. It just seems... irresponsible on the part of the writer
Not even a minute in and there's a Twilight mention. *LMAO!!!*
Never change Amanda. _Never change._
"This place has EVERYTHING: night terrors, lucid dreaming, workplace affairs, human traffic cones..."
The part where Amanda mentioned the cat was unintentionally amusing, since my cat had pulled a Georgie earlier today and I called the non-emergency police line for the first time in my life to report that my cat had gone into the sewer.
The main thing that bugged me is that when Rob switched with Louise he instantly spoke with her accent, the whole speaking pattern didn't change
this is how tiktok witches think astral projection works
I recommend watching this twice...
And telling me that Adele isn’t possessing the pigeon
People were thinking Louise at the end was the pigeon.
wait i see that now
@@MarielaQue but the pigeon is there when she first does the dirty with David. It’s like Adele is saying Run while you can!!
In all seriousness, that could also be the case 😅
@@top1terra1girl well anything is possible. I was close to googling how long pigeons live
I only watched it once and thought that was what the writers were hinting at lol...but I actually thought it was Louise!
This series sounds like a watered-down version of the movie “Skeleton Key.”
How so?
Nah. I've seen both and it isn't like the Skeleton Key.
Only thing I’d say is similar is the ending
@@MarielaQue The movie featured a body swap story. But they did it better IMO.
No, Skeleton Key's supernatural/voodoo subplot was well defined in the narrative.
David gives off super non mistakeable red flags, he's dishonest, hot headed and controlling... I mean... What did the show try to tell us with making him the good guy after all? Also from David's perspective, he doesn't know about the magic stuff, he basically only knows that Adele does not feel guilty about her friend overdosing and that she gets jealous and vengeful when she suspects him being unfaithful. How does that justify him forcing her to take strong antipsychotic pills every day? Or controlling where she goes?
Hey, because he knew something was not right with "her' and that "she" could be dangerous. Remember why they had to move?
@@kamaliaphillips1091 true! But I'd argue it's still unethical for a husband to force his wife to take pills and control where she can or can't go.
That really bothers me too. Hey netflix-watching abusive husband, you wouldn't have to control you wife if she would just stay "the same person you married!" Not your fault, actually all part of the gay agenda...
@@madeleinebailly2716 how? She said he overdosed. There's no way he can know anything about what's going on.
@@madeleinebailly2716 I don't think he does blame "her" for the murder. He thinks it will look suspicious to the authorities, but he thinks it was an accidental overdose.
Now that I’ve seen this commentary I do see that this series lost a lot of its potential. It could have been so much more mysterious and scary. However I do still like this series, especially because I just feel so bad for David and Adele. David genuinely thought his childhood love and wife was a fucking nutter/murder when in actuality she was already dead. And not only was she dead but who she was and how good of a person she was was ruined by rob forever in David’s eyes. And is Adele at peace? Probably not, so it highly likely she’s just ghosting around David watching all this shit. In conclusion...fuck rob.
After watching the series I realized that the reason that David got inraged when Adele said she was going for coffee was that his last fling was with the woman who worked in the coffee shop and Adele said that to stir the pot.
You should talk about the Netflix movie “I Care a Lot.” I personally really liked it, but it has a terrible audience score
I found it entertaining, but everyone around me hated it a lot
I really liked it
i liked it, it was entertaining.
i watched it last week and at the it was received really well but days later i see a whole bunch of people saying they didnt like it for various reasons and i was surprised bc i didnt feel the "bury your gays" trope w this one & the ending was sufficient
I loved it! It made me mad but I liked it, I never saw the next step coming.
I think it was entertaining, but I didn't like it.
It seemed like the end was trying to be really sad and shocking but maybe they didn't really put in the character development to deserve the big emotions.
"All I wanted was a coffee and YOU wouldn't give it to me" -- Adele, probably
Should have asked for a Pepsi.
Got noise complaints from my apartment cause i kept screaming "CALL THE DAMN COPS" throughout lol
Lol that ending is so depressing. Except for the cat. Viva la fluffy.
I'm excited to hear the conversation with Brendan Steere. I sent the VelociPastor trailer to my friend and we're going to watch it together. So hyped.
Not to set expectations too high for you, but it's a straight up masterpiece!
Shameless plug: A buddy and I did a review of it on our channel, Sad Stan Productions, if you wanna check it out after you guys watch the movie.
@Arosukir6 sweet! I’ll check it out after we watch!
I'd rather watch Velocipastor 1000x than this BS
Geez it's like Fatal Attraction and Rebecca rolled into one show with a little Skeleton Key rolled in.
A dash of get out lmao
I was always interested in the concept of Lucid Dreaming and stuff so i was gomma watch it.. Then when i realized it's also astral projection it got more interesting and the last 10 minutes were fucking insane.. So for me it was good.
I was so confused when you were saying lucid dream spying, I am like...that isn’t how lucid dreaming works. Then you said astral-projection and that made way more sense.
So basically her husband “cheated” because his wife wasn’t really herself anymore? Which means, he really didn’t. That makes me sad 😞
I mean, he did still legally cheat on her...
But being on the situation he was in, I would divorce her (as he doesn't really love her anymore) and make sure she gets the help she needs.
the series had me for 5 episodes but it completely failed me on the final episode...that twist was so ridiculous that it made me dislike the series
I think it made complete sense considering the amount of clues left in previous episodes
@@janelleboadu8120 unfortunately, making complete sense doesn't mean the same as good.
Louise obviously didn't read Stranger with My Face as a teen smh
Louise obviously.....
Fill in the blank
Omg yeahh I read that book too
I'm convinced the kid is going to be murdered in season 2 to prevent David finding out.
In the book its implied that Rob plans to kill Adam since kids are accidental prone
I watched this series because I love thrillers, and kept waiting for it to get interesting and then astral projecting cool, fine and Robert is suspicious but the ending and poor Adam sad little face was like uh?! So yeah I didn´t like it, wasn´t the worst but it is true that the characters are underveloped.
You said exactly what I thought when watching the show, like why wouldn’t you call the police or fire fighters first if you saw a house burning. What the hell was she trying to achieve by astral projecting in that moment, it was so incredibly stupid. I felt so sorry for Adam, that’s the part that disturbed me the most. And yeah it was very slow burn and kind of boring almost until the last episode.
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Didn't watch it, never read the book, or even heard of it before now, but, believe it or not, I saw every plot twist coming.
I watched this one a while ago when it was first released on Netflix. I don't remember all of the details. Your channel is just so much more entertaining than rewatching this movie that I will watch you talk about it instead. Thanks for posting all these movies to keep my brain occupied while I get stuff done 😊
That ending scene reminded so much of Us. That poor poor kid.
Kinda wish the author wrote little hints to this, for example:
Adele didn’t care about money, had no fashion since
Rob being obsessed with money and loving clothes
When Rob was Adele all the sudden she is always shopping and dresses very well.
This feels like Domestic Girlfriend with less incest but more supernatural and murdery
Interesting to see that an abusive relationship can actually push someone into cheating, and then it creates a "well, you cheated, so you are the baddie here"
I saw the twist coming a mile off, I felt like I should want the hours I watched it back but hey! I watched it on the weekend and was feeling lazy and it was perfect for my mood. Also, I used to live in London so I was entertained by the shots of London in this, and the property porn aspects of it. David and Adele's house and garden was gorgeous. And I loved Louise's flat (apartment) too. So I won't watch it again and won't be thinking about it but it was ok.
Was this actually shot in London though? Because I'm from london too and I didnt recognise any of it 😂
I just watched this the end of the movie I was like holy F... and I totally feel for Adam he looked so sad in the back seat I might watch the next one if they make it.
David's accent was stronger than Peter's.
Peter isn't played by a Scot where David is I believe
@@AkuraTheAwesome actually the actor when plays David is very English
@@writingthewrong5376 ✅ Thank you for confirming.
The acting was actually really good, that’s honestly the best part of the show
Agree!💯
i remember watching the fire scene and being like
"wasn't her soul pink?"
* sees rob body-swapping with adele and then killing her *
"Ah."
I think (mostly based on your video since I haven't watched the show lol) what probably could've saved the show is if the bodyswap happened at the halfway point. So Louis is fighting to get her body back, still thinking it's Adele who stole it, and then at the end we still gain the twist that it was actually Rob the whole time. This could potentially change the ending, but I think it would've helped the story pick up the pace a bit and gain a bit more momentum. Also just the whole show having a bodyswap conflict would've been REALLY intriguing, I don't see that super often.
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I spent the whole video trying to figure it out lmao
It felt almost painful working through the show, but it was somehow still so riveting. Glad I stuck around till the end!
Does anyone else get a creepy vibe from an author writing a gay dude who forcefully enters a lady's body so he can be with another dude? Kinda gives me a JK Rowling's "Troubled Blood" feeling. Low-to-high-key homophobia/transphobia vibes. Like, interesting twist, I guess, but also a deeply harmful cliché/trope (man who becomes a woman = predator).
I got the same vibe and it's really uncomfortable; a lot of the same transphobic tropes just done up a bit differently
YES SO MUCH and I’m surprised hardly anyone is talking about it
I personally didn't see this as a problem, it was clear that Rob didn't do what he did just because his whole personality was being gay. They laid out his desperation to escape his horrid life of poverty, abuse and addiction and he only did this because he was a selfish/greedy for someone else's life.
I don't think there's anything wrong with writing a complex villain who's gay and is selfish in his desire for another man. I personally don't want to see boring/perfect gay characters with no "problematic" characterizations or motivations because that isn't realistic. Especially in a supernatural story-line that would give a bad person the ability to do crazy shit. But if you didn't like it, that's understandable
I'm so glad other people are seeing it, I was worried I was the only one.
Eh, is not like gay people can't do no wrong. Plus Rob's motivation wasn't just banging David, he also envied Adele's money, freedom and beauty 🤷🏻♀️ oh, and he was junkie
Maybe I've read/watched too many weird stories, but I saw the final twist coming a mile away. Like what would be the most obvious "totally unexpected shocking twist" here :D
This has almost NOTHING to do with the vid but I'm so psyched to hear Amanda mention Speed Racer! That movie is criminally underrated, I think it's legitimately fantastic and nails the over the top sports anime vibe.
Honestly, I think it's the only live action movie from anime that doesn't 1. suck or 2. Seems problimatic to like for reasons beyond the actual movie. I love Speed Racer so much!!!!!!
I am so happy that watched this video instead of the whole show. It was definitely more entertaining with your commentary. Thanks Amanda.
I really enjoyed this show right until the ending, then I hated it.
It did have clichés and it was all a bit kitchen-sink drama for my usual tastes but it was engaging enough after episode 2, I liked that the protagonist was a black single mom (I was a little taken out by the fact that this black woman working seemingly three days a week as a receptionist could apparently afford a fair sized two-bedroom flat in London but hey I guess the show doesn't have to go there if it doesn't want to) and I liked that one of the important side characters was a gay man from Glasgow from a poor background who dealt with personal demons that didn't boil down to "he's suffering for being gay".
The story became more enthralling, I wanted to know what was up with Adele and David, the show knew how to have fun sometimes which I appreciated. Even the astral projecting didn't take me out too much, usually I'd find it too fantastical in this sort of show but they were having fun with it, though it was obvious they'd be a big twist at the end regarding it.
I even predicted that body swapping was going to be a thing, but I figured it would be revealed that David and Rob had body swapped and that's why 'David' had become so disillusioned with the relationship after his original body was killed and he wasn't happy anymore all after he'd been so enamoured with Adele and her lifestyle. I even figured that's why it was shown early on that David didn't enjoy sex with Adele and preferred anal sex with her instead (obviously I was wrong about all of that, also that would have still been horrible to portray, a gay man trying to force himself to have sex with a woman).
Anyway then the shit hit the fan.
Louise just kept making bad, unjustifiable decisions, and genuinely why did she astral project when Adele was in the burning house? She didn't know body swapping was possible did she? Earlier in the series she broke a window to 'save' Adele so why wasn't that an option in her head?
At first I thought the show was going for a nuanced portrayal of Adele. She's a bit emotionally immature and her perfect fairytale life with the perfect guy and all her money just don't fulfil her, and something clearly happened in the past that ruined that relationship anyway and now David has become this distant, resentful man who just can't love this woman anymore but he feels locked in.
But no Adele's just crazy, except she isn't because she's actually Rob. And Rob's just crazy. He's a drug-addicted, jealous, manipulative, crazy person. Also his name's Rob, because he's going to rob this woman of her body and lifestyle and husband.
So yeah according to this show, watch out for gay men. Watch out for the poor. Don't give those gay poors anything, not friendship or even healthy ways to alleviate their suffering. They'll just abuse your gifts and your trust and ruin the lives of the rich straight folk.
Like that isn't even subtext, it's the text of the show. It's the final message.
Maybe it wouldn't be if they'd explored Louise's situation a bit more. Again she's a single black mother living in London with her kid and pre-existing health issues but she doesn't struggle economically at all? They even made a point in the map scene that she doesn't live near David "how the other side live", she isn't rich like them at all. Maybe she could have been a poor person mixed up between these two unhappy rich people, she could have made better choices based on her having a kid, or not living the same lifestyle of those two. She could have walked away from these two rich people who take everything for granted and can't stop torturing each other.
But no the show ends with Louise dead, Adam's lost his mother, David's going to be miserable again after Rob/Louise threatens a waitress for smiling at David, and the only gay man in the show is going to continue ruining these straight people's lives because he's a malicious, life stealing, predatory, poor gay man, who also knows how to correctly wash, dry and maintain a black woman's hair. Not a bad thing but even I, myself a poor lgbt+ white man, knows that it isn't the same as white women's hair.
I just finished the series today and it blew me away. I was not prepared for what happened.
The series was amazing. Definally did not expect it.
The best part was the way Louise's dreams were portrayed
His accent is literally so similar to Peter’s from Bly Manor. It seriously triggers my fight (not flight) response
I loved this story. It does start slow then goes crazy. Very rewatchable.
Hey! I can do the lucid dreaming thing. I use it to immediately look for the buffet when I dream.
I was not expecting the plot twist to be "the only gay character on the show is the one true villain, stealing women's bodies to trick a straight guy to sleep with him", like... I don't know, it makes me feel some kind of way that I do not particularly like.
hi gay man here. totally get you feel that way but I didn't get that feeling at all. It was more of a terrible human being who felt so alone and was willing to do anything to not feel alone. We also do have to remember that there are some terrible people out there regardless of sexuality - although i can see your point if someone who isn't as open to the LGBT community that this movie can be taken to that extent.
@@watchanime331 Well said!
They've been doing a lot of movies/series like this..or like the Lifetime movies with a twist, like Deadly Illusions or WIthin. They all feel like a typical Lifetime drama but then they have a twist at the end and no one wins.
I’m so mad about the ending 😭 poor Louise and Adam and David and Adele. UGHH
I have only watched this video but honestly i enjoyed this story. I don't know if id sit and watch it now and i feel kinda bad but maybe when i have more time
The podcast clip made me realize I like watching Amanda because she reminds me of red from OSP
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Has total “Stranger with my Face” by Louis Duncan vibes! This seems a bit more convoluted though lol. Not gonna lie but, that book creeped the hell out of 12 year old me.
I have a friend with the same long lasting creep out from that book
The “twice” just murdered me honestly, you should so done
So what you're telling me is this is another show/movie where the main character luckily for once is a person of color but like usual doesn't have any personality in comparison to the light characters
But it's kind of even worse because she's sort of a sex toy that's being thrown between the two main white characters and then ends up being murdered at the end
So yeah it sounds to me like they hit all the black character tropes
Amanda didn't mention it but the character Louise was originally white in the book.
@@MarielaQue that actually explains a lot
@@sillyswirlsproductions145 it does. Like this is a limited series but if there was a couple more episodes it could have expanded on the characters.
@@MarielaQue heck if they had cut a couple more mysteries they could have done it
@@sillyswirlsproductions145 I was thinking the same. There are so many red herrings that lead nowhere.
Aaaaaaah the title is sooo satisfying since that’s exactly how I felt about the show, but couldn’t come up with the words