FATE: The Winx Saga gave me whiplash | Explained
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Somehow this sent me down a rabbit hole where I read all the Fate: The Winx Saga Bloom/Stella fanfiction what is WRONG with me?
Like there was only 5 but STILL
I dont know, but now im curious and gonna read it too, so thanks for that!
Now we need a video
But... were they good? We need a review!
@@Sabrina-sc1db There WAS one I liked and it has 2 whole chapters already
Somehow
one of the things I hate the most about the "live adaptation" is that they pit the girls against each other for a boy while the cartoon taught us of supporting your friends and lifting each other up
They fought against the witches though and everyone @ 16 - 18 is obsessed with getting married (except Musa, Alisha, and Techna)
Yeah when I heard a core theme was friendship and that was the main thing they were trying to carry over into the show I was like, ummm, you guys got any deleted scenes of that friendship development?
@@70shalu but the witches do try to kill everyone... the winx girls never fight over boys
@@lunasuji True. Honestly that was the most admirable thing about them. I was hoping that this show would have more diversity and body positivity (bc the original show has big issues in these departments) but they glossed over Aisha, Terra, and Musa’s friendship even though it was much more fun and interesting to watch. They some cute one-liners and interactions and honestly I would have loved a show centering around them. It was like I was watching two different stories. Also, like the fact that they added guy fairies and girl specialists but they could have done more.
Once Upon a Time is the only live-action show I've ever seen successfully built on the theme of...well, anything(but hope in this case).They all went from enemies to becoming family in an extremely unique way.
I’m adopted and the one thing I’ve always hated in shows with the whole adopted storyline is always the “I have to find my real parents”/“I don’t know who I am without them”. I’ll tell you who you are without, the exact same person you were before. I have never called my biological mom my real mom. My (adopted) mom is my real mom and she’s the one who helped me find myself and teach me about life/morals. You don’t suddenly learn all of that by meeting your “real” mom. I could never relate to any adoption story on TV because of that. It was genuinely so frustrating and I always felt bad for my mom, when adoptive parents are never referred to as “real” parents .
Adoption storylines in shows are always so fucking "nuclear family" positive.
The adopted child finds out they are adopted and all of a sudden disown the adopted parents to search out the parents who gave them up and it always goes one of two ways
"I was just not ready for a child, but I am now"
"I was made to give you up, for your own protection"
and then the Biological parents just overtake the parenting.
It's such a shit thing for the adoptive parents because they are essentially told "actually you aren't good enough I need to find my REAL parents lol bye" and then the show reinforces this.
Hell even in the original show Bloom knew she was adopted the whole time, she only seeks out her birth heritage bc it's relevant to her powers, and she needs to learn more about that shite to fight the bad guys. Before she even embarks on that quest tho she talks about it with her parents and expresses guilt about wanting to know more about where she comes from.
Like her parents in the original show are awesome, super caring, wholesome, supportive, a bit dorky, but yea! Her mom owns a plant store, her dad's a firefighter - who found her in a fire as a baby, completely unharmed, which was weird as hell to him, AND HONESTLY MORE FUCKING COMPELLING.
Like why not start the show with a bunch of firefighters fighting a fire and then one of em hearing a baby crying, investigating, getting the baby, then the second she's in his arms the fire goes out - LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CARTOON. Like that adds mystery and intrigue! (The way it happened in the cartoon didn't as much bc it was revealed in a flashback well after Bloom figured out a lot about her powers already, but hey! There's a good way to age it up! Fucks sakes.)
Like in the cartoon her pursuing her birth heritage is bc the evil witches have like... Stolen the dragon fire I think at that point and are taking over the world, so she needs to learn more about it and where she comes from in order to fight and stop them! She still assures her parents that she loves them and couldn't have asked for better parents, etc, etc. Like it's VERY adoption positive fucks sakes.
@@mksabourinable Whaaaa? An animated show showing more tact than the 'more mature' live action version?
Why I never-!
The first series of Digimon handled this aspect better than this....THING. It's revealed that Izzy is adopted but his distance from his adoptive parents aren't because 'I want to find my real parents'. No, Izzy finds out by accident that his parents are killed and overhears his adoptive parents arguing over when to tell him the truth but from Izzzy's POV, it comes off as if they're arguing over this because HE'S the problem. Only near the end does he find out the truth in that they DID have a baby but he died and when Izzy's parents died, they were the only remaining relatives but they still loved him and they were just concerned. And Izzy loves his parents but just didn't know what to do when he found out. He was MUCH younger than Bloom but even that was better than...this.
@@mksabourinable And that’s one of the reasons I loved the Winx when I was kid. It was always the “My fake parents didn’t tell me I was adopted, now I hate them so I’m going to ignore and disrespect them (maybe put them into harms way) then I’m gonna go find my real mommy/daddy because they would never lie to me” trope. Everything was so negative about being adopted! Every adoption story was just those aren’t your real parents, you can only know who you are if you’re blood related. Your fake parents may say they love you but they can never reallllly understand you, only your blood family can do that, even if they’re homicidal maniacs/evil then you’ll just be alone and misunderstood forever.
Remember how in the original Bloom was happily adopted and her parents were aware of her fairy heritage and loved and supported her? Or hoe the show's core theme was the unbreakable sisterhood between the Winx girls? Well, none of that healthy relationship nonsense here! Just leather jackets and Riverdale speech!
Ikr
Riverdale speech lmao
Healthy relationship is SOOO boring and childish, ugh, let's give it more dark and edge!
@@novemberninth4392 I know right?! We want characters without redeeming qualities!
💯😩💀💀
I am so angry they made Stella into a bitch. She was rich and spoiled from being an actual princess, yes, but she was a genuine sweetheart who wanted to help Bloom and the others and was just a really good person.
A MULTI-DIMENSIONAL character? What? The audacity!
I’m angry too.
@@mythandmayhem1134 Also lowkey suprised they ditched Aisha's amnesia arc when she went by Layla?
Am I remembering this right isnt her ma dead? Like she was dead or not part of Stella's life but she's alive now and super OP like. Uhhhhh. I remember now she wasnt dead but like boi did they do her dirty and blooms parents too. AND farahgonda I legit yelped at the last episode.
I agree with you but I was happy that she had some character development and back story.
I think by the end, other than her going at Aisha, she did grow a lot... but again, there was that whole moment with Aisha
Hmm yes, show originally about girls getting along and being besties who use team work? Hmm let's turn that into all of them hating each other and all only caring about some boy
Right!!! I hate it here
So progressive and feminist. Wow
it's 2021 let girls be friends. Catty bitch is not the default.
Right let's go back to the huge stereotype that women hate other women by nature 🙄
Low-key expected one of them to be lesbian because that's where 2021 shows based off of old cartoons or shows seem to be too going
I really don't like how Bloom had no repercussions after she caused so much trouble, even after Sam almost died because she set Rosalind free. I can't believe Aisha had to say sorry to bloom instead of Bloom saying sorry to everyone. Honestly Bloom is the most dislikable main character I have ever seen, she is so selfish.
THIS !! It was so disappointing to see everyone lacked logic. Bloom set off a chain of events that hurt so many around her. I honestly can’t stand her presence. Aisha deserved soooooo much better :(
You know, I honestly thought Bloom was very dislikable as well.. I didn’t want to say it but I hope they really elaborate on the other characters next season because she is very disappointing.
I think this is my first time disliking a female lead this much, I only find her annoying and ignorance, i honestly cannot stand her presence. :)
I honestly disliked Bloom by the end of the like one of the first scenes. When she was in the wrong place and clearly lost and Skye came over to offer to help her and she was like "I don't need you to mansplain it to me". Like...clearly you need someone to explain things to you because you are in the wrong place and look completely lost. And that's not even what mansplaining is. She talks like an Angry Twitter user. And from then on she just seemed to get worse and worse. Being rude to basically anyone who tried to help her. And while I can see her parents being controlling, her trying to convince her father that her mother was crazy was so concerning.
Yes, I was watching is with friends and we were hating on Bloom being an horrible person
Ugh they really butchered Stella, who was in fact, my favorite. She wasn't a mean girl, a bit airheaded and could be selfish, but she still loved her friends. They just had to make her a stereotypical blonde mean girl, that's just really stupid.
Stella was an amazing person
Yeah, they did that classic insulting female rivality over a Boy. I used to love the original Winx Club, with this live action they just messed up with something that had potencial to be good. And also messed up with the storylines... It's like Riverdale, like someone (that just came to puberty) made up a nonsense fanfiction. The script is bad, and looks like they tried too hard to force (and show) that the serie wans't for children. They could do better... But that serie is awful.
Sorry my rusty English.
And my comments notifications are disabled, so I can ignore ignorant people
Exactly I loved Stella...she was a bit arrogant at times but she apologized and made up for it in her charm. She is my fav. They took her boo out...GET BRANDON BACK
Ion want Sky for her
I’m upset they ruined her and made her and bloom enemies for a BOY
Like they were best friends, the first out of the squad to meet and arguably the closest to each other apart from the group
Boils my blood at what they did
Say, question... What was the "golden" era of Winx? With so many seasons, and the evil sorcerer this, and evil merman that, Trix here, evil goth guys there, I seriously can't figure out my way around here.
@@Mike14264 The golden era for the Winx club saga ended with season 4!
Listen were all either gay or depressed, we dont want edgy and dark . We just want glitter and the feeling of nostalgia. They honestly had so much potential with the cartoon and could've made it great but it's like the writers went on twitter and saw some edgy memes and thought ohh so this is what teens want
I love this comment
this comment is so accurate and funny and the same time I-
YES, I’m here for a sparkly escapism fantasy. Clearly these people don’t know their audience.
This is the most accurate comment I have ever seen lol,, There's a reason why the Dark Bloom episodes were my favourites *lesbian panic*
Me: well I’m not gay so that means...oh no
It’s basically just Shadow Hunters.
Red headed heroine, who doesn’t know her past because she was hidden from her magical world as a baby. And one of the first people she meets in this world is the blonde sword welding, leather jacket wearing worrier love interest.
Then just like all the Nextflic teen originals the main heroine continues to make selfish decisions for her own personal reasons. Until she fucked up bad then asks for help to fix the problems she’s created only to do another selfish thing to create a cliffhanger for the next season.
Omg so true... Its sad because the original was so good, bloom always knew she was adopted, Stella wasnt a bword and the girls friendship was strong and inspiring. And floras cousin... Dude. She doesnt even have a Charakter?? Being big should t be All she is?? Wth writers of the Show, did yall ever think about how Bad all that Angsty bs can be for young girls??
Exactly what I thought! And the main pairing doesn’t have any chemistry in either show too!
@@lisasowa1195 and in shadow hunters they thought they were siblings for a while!
It’s very similar, but I also found this a bit more enjoyable than shadow hunters, maybe because I’m more distant from the source material, whereas with shadow hunters I was expecting them to actually follow the book plot and make at least a little dense within the own universe they were creating
But I'd say better acted than the main couple in shadowhunters.
i'm mostly impressed how they whipped out stella's boyfriend so they can make bloom and stella fight for sky???? with what purpose?? female rivalry i guees why not?
Which is so freaking sad because they had the best relationship out of everyone in the show. Also I am so sad about sky's casting... I want the dumbass, surfer himbo I was promised
Also by taking him away they totally destroyed the whole switcharoo storyline about Sky being a prince and changing places with his bodyguard and then Stella's whole thing about her boyfriend turning out to not be a prince.
ALSO where is my longhaired hippie childhood crush like wtf :(
Right... we want to see women lifting each other up not fighting over a boy
Plus if they wanted female rivalry they could've made Diaspro a fairy and wouldn't have had to butcher Stella's character... ugh...
I'm so mad about that because I can remember so well how good of a relationship was. In the comics, there was a moment where someone was pretending to be Stella's boyfriend so she kissed him and once he left, she just told Bloom: "That's not him." SHE COULD TELL THAT FROM KISSING HIM. And they ripped him out for drama which ends up being the most cliche thing ever
I can't believe that Aisha was framed as being the bad guy for telling Dowling when she was RIGHT, all Bloom had to do was wait a night for Dowling to tell her everything, and instead she freed a war criminal and set off a chain of events that handed all the villains a victory.
Yes!! This made me so mad
@@storsolo Team Aisha Deserved Better lol
She had a brain and the show tried to convince us she is the bad one not the girls who are about to get ppl killed with a plan they clearly did not think through.
Yes but the mythical beasts known as teenagers don’t think logically apparently and when they want something they have to have it then and there. What was that? You, nor anyone else you knew, acted like that at 16? Well by-golly I just don’t know anything about the world anymore?!?!
@@shannonwatson5769 It does not take that much brain power to think "hey maybe we shouldn't release a known murderer AND a war criminal on the same night."
I can't understand Netflix. They have "Anne with an E" and "To all the boys I loved before" proving them that teens can watch cute and colorful stuff that still have deep topics and diverse characters. Not everything needs to go Riverdale or new Sabrina.
Netflix trying to make the next Sabrina is like Cartoon Network trying to make the next Courage the Cowardly Dog or Adventure Time or Nickelodeon trying to make the next iCarly and I'm so over it. Netflix needs to understand that you're not going to perfectly recreate the magic of one show in another show but that doesn't mean you keep trying and butchering other properties. Just try something different.
I wouldn't even put TABILB there but I support the point of stop with the Riverdale/Sabrina shows. Very bad points and plots
Anne with with E was actually made by CBC, which is a Canadian media company :)
Oh, I love CAOS. But it's true that it has many plot problems and the intention of being Riverdale with witchcraft (although it's much better than that dumpster fire).
I wish it had stayed true to the comics (the new ones, not the original ones), but I still think it has redeeming qualities: it's an entertaining show, with good aesthetics, good soundtrack and a good cast, especially Kiernan as Sabrina. Definitely the best season is S1. The second is good too but in the third you can see the lack of direction and the fourth is just a great exaggeration but I really liked the decision they made at the end, quite risky but realistic.
"Created by a former "Vampire Diaries" writer". And I'm out.
He really likes his love triangles
That's what my friend said when we watched the character interviews
@@user-ok4xb1rd9f which I hate more than anything in romance
And for those reasons... I'm out
My first question to my friends after hearing it was a prior Vamp diaries writer... "is it chock full of long lustful gazes and brooding segments?"
They assured me it was far less than VD- I should have trusted my instincts!
I just realized that Aisha went from swimming 3+ times a day everyday to being Bloom’s personal assistant. Even taking the assistant job to spy for her. Clearly very dedicated to her element and her sport, but gotta help my white roommate!
I noticed that, when Aisha failed her water spell in class I was praying for a new plot to come up where the opposite powers, water and fire are clashing. So there powers don't work together until the master it
No matte how stupid it was just needed her to be her own self.
What does Bloom's skin color have to do with that? Like I agree with everything but you didn't need to add "white". It sounds racist.
It kind of reminded me of how Flora did the same to her in an older episode.
@@marypoppins8884 it has to do with tropes
@@marypoppins8884 Aisha was literally pushed into the stereotypical black token best friend role to the white lead. The dynamic is already racially charged. It's similar to the gay best friend. A token minority character who seems to only exist for the sake of the main character (and main character are generally white) with no agency of their own
You forgot to mention the complete lack of staff at the school, a head mistress, a botany teacher, and a fighting instructor and oh and the assistant that gets killed.
Even Hogwarts is a more realistic school.
Netflix has that habit of making sure the only Black female character has no story arc and I have to respect their consistency
the only time netflix thinks black female characters should have agency is when they were white in the source material like triss from witcher and hell the original casting call for ciri called for a young black actress too
You should check out Dear White People. Pretty good show on Netflix. Unfortunately not a lot of others I can think of
I was so desperate for Aisha's storyline I started thinking of nonsensical theory for why her powers aren't working that would start her arc.
Then turns out only 2 episodes were left.
@@NAME-yg8sl it makes no sense that the show only had 6 episodes
@@NAME-yg8sl same, I’m so desperate for a character arc that I’m imagining they might even let her discover her morphix powers ( from the original) in season 2, as a branch from her basic water powers 😭.
I don’t get why they didn’t keep the bright colors and themes of friendship.
That’s what like... most people loved about the original. You can make a deep show with bright colors and cute aesthetics. Anyway, the original show was a lot better and this shit is just bland.
Because that's for kids and they want to make it DARK and EDGY because all teens and young adults want to watch depressing dark shit with no enjoyment just like what they experience on a day to day basis. You know...ReLaTaBlE
🙄
*Sigh*
It's because the creator of the live adaption said that real girls don't look like/wear outfits like that. It's stupid he took away the Winx main aesthetic because he's never seen any 'real girls' wear flashy outfits apparently. And it's not 'mature' unless you put a dark gritty filter over it, how else will people know it's not for kids!
@@Bloodedskull19 did he say real girls?! Wtf they're fairies!!! What's real about that?! They just didn't want to bother dressing them nicely
@@Bloodedskull19 In a show about magic dude really went "no one wears flashy outfits in real life"?!
@@sweetytweety1671 Yes, he actually said that. His quote was: “Nobody looks like that. It was the most important thing to me that every kid can feel like they see themselves in it … Real girls, real people.”
The Riven in the animated series was a caring bad boy who didn't take crap from anyone. But he and Musa had an on and off toxic relationship which could have been explored so much. Stella was the mean girl without being mean. She was fun and sassy and a fashion icon. But in this she is just a bich. And in the animated series Stella had a boyfriend, Brandon. Their relationship was amazingly iconic. I can't belive that didn't happen.
.. I was waiting and looking for Brandon... Like where he be at? :o The Winx girls relationships are well known and popular. Hells, this live action is badly written.
And those FASHION CHOICES!??! Colorful and unique desings were a significant part of the original show. And now that y2k fashion is super popular again, why not use it??
Everything was so...drab. So lifeless in color. It made me feel more bored as I watched.
Honestly the show was created by a fashion designer....idk what they were thinking with this, stella would never allow this wardrobe
@@shisurvives2635 To paraphrase a short-sighted person; color is for children.
So you can thank that mindset for why a lot of adult or 'mature' movies look like they've been splashed with grey or beige.
quick answer.. the costume designer choice.
the producers picked a designer who is known for shows like desperate housewives and the man in high castle which are for an older audience with more mature characters.. therefore she dressed them how she (also an older white woman) assumes teenagers dress. They should've picked a younger designer or at least one who is used to working with teen characters like Mandi Line (Pretty Little Liars, 90210, The Clique) or Samantha Rattner (DUFF, Runaways & Carrie Diaries)
@@penelopeblvd You have NO idea how loud I rage screamed at this.
Just like any other show about "troubled" American teenagers. Hate your parents, being mean but popular, doing drugs, not knowing who you are. How original. Gimme a break 😒
IKR! Its so tiring
@Ana J Yeah lol, apparently this is a high school thing
@Dummy-chan Weirdo
It’s very disgusting. Especially when they show sex scenes with “teenagers”.
You can be troubled and like your parents and be nice and not popular and not do drugs. It’s called depression and anxiety XD.
They're not even American theyre mostly British except Bloom, which honestly is kind weird because they never really do anything with that either
The two biggest, objective problems with FATE: The Winx Saga was 1. The white washing, and 2. The fact that they missed out on the core message of Winx: friendship above all else. In the remake it seemed like the girls didn't even like each other very much
not just the core message, every message. ‘remake’ ‘adaptation’ hell even saying it’s inspired by winx would be a stretch. fate is literally just a bland boring edgy magic teen show and they are just using the name winx for attention.
everything about fate is disrespectful to the original everyone who made it and the fans
To the friends thing: Wouldn't it be really nice to see them grow together instead of them all suddenly being friends forever? I actually hope to see that...
Yeah, Terra and Musa were the only ones who actually behaved like friends. You know you've fucked up when only 1 of the relationships inn a group of 5 (I think that's 10 posible relationships in total) felt like an actual friendship
This show was just so ridiculous in a billion ways. They changed Musa's ethnicity, they white washed Flora (there is evidence of the original script using Flora in it, so they clearly just added flora as a family member of Terra to not get backlash), they turned Aisha into ANOTHER generic black side kick and even VILLAINIZED HER for being SMART?, turned Bloom into even MORE of a brat who constantly belittles others ESPECIALLY Aisha, and Stella got turned into a generic blonde bully who only dresses the way she does because it's forced upon her by society. And tecna is dead.
It was honestly so tiring to see how everyone turned into such a generic trope. They even turned Bloom and Stella into love rivals?! Stella was also the one who was blooms closest friend trying to help her out in the actual winx, but they used Aisha for that in this show and turned her into another character used only for Bloom getting rid of everything that Aisha was in the original winx. I also know how some people were excited for Terra as she is plussize, but they turned her into another plussize girl who has anxiety and belittles herself constantly and at some point was even begging people to belittle her clothing style when Stella wasn't there?!
Then we also find out bloom and her mom have an awful relationship, and so does Stella with her mom, both of which never happened, but okay. But then we find out bloom almost killed her mother because of their bad relationship?! and then she was just the most entitled brat ever imaginable and never got likable.
It's also hilarious to me that they turned the trix into ''Beatrix'', yet Beatrix was portrayed as less of a bitch then Stella to me. I kept asking my friend who the hell is supposed to be the evil person here, because Beatrix her impact imo wasn't that great in the show AT ALL.
Also, like you said, Bloom suddenly being able to do a half transformation without ever even having learned how to control her power was just ridiculous. It also wasn't even a transformation, and was very badly done.
Like I told my friend, if they wanted a show based off of winx club, but change everyone's personality, white wash some people, remove others, using generic tropes and even change the setting of the world with things like ''transformations are ancient magic'' or whatever, they could've easily done that and just NOT called it winx club. Why not say its a continuation of the winx world? Thousands of years later, which would also give them all the freedom they need. But no, they wanted the hype of the brand Winx Club and turned it into the opposite of the original winx.
I have heard some people say that the show is good if you just forget that its based on winx, but even then the show imo is not good at all because it's just a billion tropes thrown together in the worst way. Stella suddenly became a good person, when she never had proper character growth. Bloom never was likable even though she's the main character. Aisha was likable and smart but then got villainized and was just a prop to bloom. Musa was decent but didn't have that much screentime or effect on much and Terra was another plussize shy girl who hates herself and begs for people to belittle her. All whilst combined with Stella and bloom being love rivals, abusive households, bad relationship with parents and over sexualizing 16y old teens whilst not allowing them to wear actual nice clothes like every teen show on netflix. It has enough problematic elements even without the association with the original winx, and if you add that association which people should because that's what the show writers decided to do, it's just horrible.
This is exactly the review the show creators need to see
Didn't Netflix try to do this to Avatar the Last Airbender as well?
@@alanaadornato5596 Yes, even the original creators of Avatar The Last Airbender left because Netflix was changing too many things and messing things up.
I don't think they were smart enough to turn Flora into Tera to avoid backlash, cause they would have done something similar to Musa too, to avoid backlash. The might want Flora to be a season two thing cause she's popular, but I don't think it was to avoid backlash
@@Renni_Jay well, I've seen (not very reliable) "proof" that Terra was originally casted as Flora, I guess they wanted to add body diversity (it seems overweight latinas don't exist now) and maybe they thought that people wouldn't notice as much with Musa (even making the actresses eyeliner hella long, I guess to make her eyes more "chinese-like") it's all just a mess
As someone who watched Winx as a kid... Why is this series Winx? There's no reason for it. The two shows barely have anything in common. It could've been a completely original series. But then how would they make any money if not with nostalgia???
I'm also so tired of "for more mature audience" meaning "no color, everyone's and edgy, depressed asshole and can't forget about all the sex and drugs!"
Adult shows can be so unimaginative, overly complicated and dull to look at.
like...they could make a fae show...and it not be winx club...
They could’ve just made something original and not name it Winx
It’s a problem as they are not similar. They only ruining ppls childhood. Can’t believe they actually believe they did sumn...oh my gosh
If they really wanted adults to watch it and give them nostalgia, they should’ve made it how it is - colorful, sparkly, fashionable and cute. Not only that, but it’ll even rope in kids and teens because it would be family friendly.
@@saloosh777 Right?! I hate how adults can never have colorful and sparkly! We like those things, too!
Yeah, they say "for a more mature audience" but it's just petty "teenage" drama like even i can tell real teens don't act like this and I'm 24
The worst part is that they got rid of Daphné. Bloom's sister. She provided so much emotional support for her. It is horrible how they got rid of that character.
Maybe she will be introduced in the later seasons, who knows 🤷
@@mediha723 is it even a good idea? Considering how they butchered everyone's characters
Daphné appeared at fifth season of the Winx club. She's not suppose to be dear that early
@@PrincesSakura she appeared from the first season but she was realesed from her cursed state in the fifth season. She was the one who saved bloom from the evil three witches and send her to earth.
@@PrincesSakura No, she's the only connection Bloom had to her original family and Domino, through Daphne is how Bloom discovered her past and how she came to earth since season 1, before season 5 came to be, Daphne has always been permanently dead but lives as a spirit to guide Bloom
The "Lady of the fly, don't be sexist" line hurt me in my core
It was the "mansplaining" to me :(
Honestly there are way too many lines like that in there
That line alone is a good enough reason to never watch this show.
I don't really understand that line, i've never heard that expression before, but it made me cringe anyway
@@amydeath If you mean the "Lady of the flies" line, Lord of the Flies is a classic novel about a bunch of boys getting stranded on an island and at the end they go crazy and I think one to three people get murdered.
It's read in a lot of American schools, I think.
They just removed Brandon from the whole storyline and made Stella and Bloom “compete” over Sky as if that’s the only character arc girls have instead of sticking together and not letting a man come in between them.
This!! It sucks because Stella and Brandon had such a healty relationship too. One thing I remember from the comics was that,,, long story short: Brandon was kidnapped and someone was acting as him, and Stella figured out it wasn't him by kissing him. It's dumb, yes, but I think it shows how close they really were. But this show took Brandon out and their healthy relationship to put girls against each other over a guy,,,
It's frustrating to see even more whitewashing of Asian characters that I grew up with, and doing that whole edging up kid's shows for a teenage audience thing is really tiring at this point 😒
Ikr! Some of us adults would like reboots that sticks to the core message of our fav shows 😂
the reboot was meant for people that grew up with the animated series aka 20-smth.. As a 20-smth that still loves (first four seasons of) winx... This reboot shit's for teens and tweens ..so like 15/16 to 18. Not that there's anything wrong with liking something obv. But demographically I'd say, I'm at least vaguely right
@@AppleLovely Im 16 grew up with winx and I hate this. Its like riverdale 2 and I didnt even like riverdale in the first place. Im okay with it but not every show has to be like riverdale ESPECIALLY winx.
And the teenagers don't even want them either
@@AppleLovely I hate this reboot and I’m 17, I hate the clothes so much why are they dressed like middle school teachers, actually even worse. Directors and producers are literally having a not like other girls phase of their own making bright and fun shows for kids to dark, angsty with sex and all that to “add a unique twist”. Like goddamnit stop riverdaling everything
Did... did this show just play Devil’s advocate for genocide? “It’s fine to wipe out entire cities as long as they’re full of evil people”? Wtf...
Yes. What's more Bloom freed a women she suspected of killing her parents because she wants answers.
I know smh. It's like they took Eren's PoV in AoT and just completely ruined it.
@@WeatherReportsHat Congrats netflix ! You ripped off AOT and made completely shat on it
@@danielasarmiento3101 YEP!
If you even believe that Rosalind is telling the truth then yeah maybe... but since she let 6 burned ones through the magic barrier to "test" the protags power... uh yeah I don't think she was telling the truth about them (the entire city) being blood witches...
gen Z don't want romance drama and edginess, we want pretty colours, campy fun and diversity
Facts. Our lives are already like a toned down edgy drama so why would we want to watch the same thing?
Exactly! I’d rather have something that’s so colorful and diverse than having something “dark” and “edgy”. Literally no one wants that.
@@peachcherryblossom_8264 right, I wanna escape from depressing reality and watch glittery fairies damnit
And glitter....dont forget the glitter
YES! I love animation because it seems all modern live action shows go for the overly dark and gritty teen romance nowadays.
The only LGBTQ character was a gay baited character that they literally comment about 1,000 times, but never confirm he is gay or bi and they can still just pull a destiel and call him straight in season 2 tbh. so I see NO LGBTQ characters so......
THANK U NO ONE EVERY MENTIONED HOW THEY BAITED US
the poor guy's gonna be sent to the super omega portal, big rip
And had a so called terrible love interest who forced him to drink, was homophobic, manipulate him to fat shame and criticize terra and mostly made a bad person out of The character and were supposed to ship them🙈
Nah he def ain't straight he admits to liking riven or finding him attractive
@@cloudyheart5148 He never actually admits it. Just that he's a handsome guy.
“Girl with a mysterious past who has more power than everyone around her and can’t control it and does basically nothing to learn to control it before she releases her god like power with no issues” is EXACTLY how I felt about Rey from the new sequels.
I managed to get 18 minutes into the first episode before the cringe became too much to bear. The Winx Club was my childhood and Flora was my favorite, this adaption feels borderline insulting and I sincerely hope they don't get renewed for another season - where they'll likely try to patch in things to fix their problems retroactively, like throwing a latina woman at the screen to show us "here's flora, see we didnt whitewash her"
It was sadly alredy renewed before it came out
Flora was also my favorite!
What is even more sad about Tera is that in early versions of the script she was Flora. So they can’t even claim that they didn’t white her because they were going to before they realized people would be p*ssed.
@@audrajurgela2985 yikes I didn't even know that, that's even worse
@@BellaRDSK yep they were even some recordings of it too where somebody called her flora but I hope that flora doesn't just show up and then she's gone she should be in the group for good plus she should be a brown latina and not whitewash.
Remember how in the actual series Bloom found out that she was adopted and felt like she wouldnt be her parents' daughter now and her parents were super understanding and we never had that annoying "youre not my REAL parents" moment? And when she learnt about her birth parents and found them they and her adoptive parents were very kind to eachother altho a bit awkward?
in the movie they even have a scene where adoptive parents show her birth parents videos of Bloom growing up and now Bloom just has two pairs of parents she loves both equally and its very adorable and strangely mature for a kids show about fairies.
But Netflix was like NAH bish they have to hate eachother cuz shes not their real kid
this show is an insult to fanfiction, tbh
Actually, fanfiction can get really bad. Look up My Immortal or Fun With Potions (both Harry Potter fanfictions).
@@cityman2312 trust me, I've read both lol
There is decent fanfic and this is just a steaming pile of shittttt
@@cityman2312 you take that back, My Immortal is an absolute masterpiece
Guys, guys what about Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles. Now that’s a hell of a ride
I'm just tired of "dark" and "realistic" reboots and adaptations whose characters talk in whispers.
I'm going back to anime.
Was anyone else as upset as me about Dane, the only overtly bi character and black male MC who looked like he just walked out of a fashion show, made good initial observations, and had an adorable friendship/budding romance with Terra, get wedged into the dumbest love triangle with discount-Harry Styles but make him sexist and the literal villain of the story?
Please tell me it was not just me
AFhajagagaj "discount-Harry Styles" killed me ahsjjmalal
It's not just you, one of the writers wrote for the Vampire Diaries.
So let me get this straight...Netflix cancelled Atypical, Teenage Bounty Hunters and The Society to make this steaming pile of garbage???
K.
while this show is terrible thats not how netflix works streaming services dont profit off of 8 season long shows like cable does so pretty much any streaming original will probably get at most 4 or 5 seasons
And Anne with an E, which is an absolute masterpiece..
@Lowkey Loki They did, but I read somewhere recently that they are bringing it back for its 4th and final season to conclude the show. Let's hope Rona doesn't derail anything else and we get to see the characters one last time.
I'm italian and 24, I was the right age when the first season came out and I loved it, I mean I still watch the first 3 seasons sporadically when I'm emotionally exhausted... this FATE thing can't exist.. and also the last seasons of the cartoon with all of the white washing..
AND WTF AISHA'S POWER IS ENERGY AS A WHOLE, NOT WATER. And the special bond between the fairies, the series is ALL about that and not bitching around.
I'm 39, and I loved the original show. I was like 20 something when it aired, but I still enjoyed it. Recently I started watching with my daughter and she also loves it. And I am pissed. They whitewashed Musa, replaced Flora, made Aisha lame and got rid of Techna. WTF, Netflix?!
@@fuunosenshi Yeah and I can't get over the fact they completely dismissed their characters.. Bloom is not that self-centered and really compassionate, Stella plays vane but she has the greatest heart, same for the others who basically don't exist in this show.
Also, I see that the fairies-boys relationships aren't realistic in the series and pretty childish, but I loved Riven and Musa's arch, they are more real, with external and internal obstacles that they overcome with time and not just because "omg he cute".
@@aeriallea1814 that seems to be the only thing they kept from the original
I'm 25 I was obsessed with Winx as a kid. I desperately wanted to be Flora, years later I am still trying to turn my apartment into a rainforest. I am pretty sure she inflounced that one way or another. Still I was thinking maybe it could work maybe Flora will be in later...then I found out we get 1 witch instead of 3...and Stella's a bitch...Aisha's probably not going to get her grand story is she?...I think I can skip this thanks
@@fuunosenshi you see we adults don't really care if the show is dark and edgy as long as it's interesting and not like riverdale we'll love it.
I'm so sad they got rid of Stella's love interest. They (from what I remember) had a really good relationship and yeah, she was a princess and rich, but she still cared about everyone and had good plot points
when Tecna is so smart that the directors couldnt figure her out lmao :"))))
I’m sure Dowling ain’t dead, because her eyes started glowing believe she was killed, meaning she activated her magic, and since she’s a mind fairy, she probably just put a vision in Rosalinds head to make it look like Rosalind actually killed here.
Also it’s the writer vom Vampire Diary’s which means no one actually ever dies, best example Andreas.
I hope so, her coats are fierce an I want more.
ahhhh i hadnt thought of that but its very plausible.
yeeah, no. yall forgetting that Riven and Danes eyes glowed when Rosalind used her powers on them. additionally, Beatrix's eyes were glowing during the interrogation, which in most circumstances could be explained as her using her powers, except the bracelets prevented that.
Dowlings eyes glowing is likely just from Rosalind using her powers on her.
I'm more interested in the way Rosalind hid the body, because wtf since when was that part of her powers. that looks like earth fairy power not mind/air fairy power.
@@BobTheTesaurus when bloom had broken her out at first she was able to make them invisible. And I’m sure Dowling said in the beginning that their powers aren’t limited to their class. Since she’s a very powerful person I’m sure she’s able to other things like that. It’s kinda scary tho
About the relationship plots: Aisha does have two love interests in the original. The first one dies, it was very sad. Also I think Riven was asian-coded in the original (he was also never very great I'm glad Musa ultimately dumped him)
It was Riven who dumped her. Didn't he saw they were bad for each other and walked of.
aisha has 3 love interests if i'm right, Nabu, Roy, and Nex. :D
I thought that Riven was caucasian-coded and that Helia was supposed to be the asian-coded one of the boy group.
I like how she has the same "chosen one" red leather jacket that Emma from Once upon a time has.
I still don't get Netflix's obsession to turn lighthearted/wholesome shows into edgy and dark shows, I get that it's their attempt at reaching "more mature" audiences but those "mature audiences" still love and watch that said lighthearted source material... What upset me the most, besides the obvious white washing issues and drastic tone change, was how they manage to butcher the characters personalities and their stories which also led to the destruction of the beautiful bond the girls shared on the original show, their friendship seemed so forced and completely out of nowhere in the live action... Also give me flora back.
Sky was so much hotter in the cartoon. And how dare they remove Techna? She was the baddest one in the show!
Agreed. She and Musa were my absolute favorites growing up..
It's for the better so they don't ruin her.
Of all things that are wrong with the show... You only care that a girl was hotter.
@@universalpower419 WRONG. Sky’s the boy. And yes, I care that he was hotter in the cartoon. It’s not like there’s anything else to care about in this disaster of a remake.
@@universalpower419 Sky is a guy lol. And you can clearly see they tried to make him fit the blonde hunk stereotype when he was so much more than that.
I wish Netflix would stop stupidly "riverdaling" good shows
That's an insult to Riverdale
@@justineberlein5916 Riverdale is an insult to The Archie comics
@@justineberlein5916 Riverdale is what started this whole mess. There was no need to make an Archie comics based show be all 'dark' and 'edgy'. If they wanted to live action Archie comics, they should have made it a sitcom. Everyone would have loved it.
@@justineberlein5916 There's no such thing as an 'insult to Riverdale'. There is nothing you can do to that show which it isn't already doing to itself
@@headintheclouds7905 yep. They allosexualized Jughead, who’s supposed to be asexual.
“Lady of the Flies, don’t be sexist.”
More like don’t misgender Beelzebub, Bloom’s dad!
THEY COULD OF SERIOUSLY JUST COPY AND PASTE THE ORIGINAL.
I would’ve taken that than this trash
I watched the animated series like literally all the time as a kid and I can tell you, that was way better than whatever the hell this sh*t is...
Originally "Tara" was supposed to be Flora, even being listed as Flora in the actress resume and in INDB (I think). They changed it to avoid some of the backlash they were clearly having, which is just cheap.
They didn’t seriously think that was gonna fly 😂
When I was watching the show I kept asking to myself like "When are they gonna bring up the dragon flame?" because that was a huge plot point for Bloom. So in the OG, when the earth was created it was done by the Dragon Flame, being the most powerful magic form to exist. When the creator dragon disappeared it left little amber pieces and with that much magic anything was possible. So a 3 Witch group called the Ancestrial Witches wanted the flame for themselves. When Bloom was a baby Thr Ancestrial Witches tried to kidnap her and take her powers for themselves. Btw Bloom is the last surviving heir of somewhere( I can't remember). So she is a Princess. When she was a baby whrn the witches were trying to kidnap her, her older sister Princess Daphne protected her from the witches and sent her on earth. That's where her parents find her. Her dad is a firefighter and in one of the fires he was trying to stop he saw a baby who wasn't affected by the flames at all. And she is openly adopted.
"Terra has a crush on Dane."
Aw yay, interracial representation! Good.
"But Dane is bi."
Same, fam. Love me some bi rep too.
"...but they don't go anywhere with it."
Oh, so they're just...making bi seem edgy and pushing it to be like Dane is gay? Yeah, that's not cool. :<
"And he likes Riven. But Riven likes Beatrix."
Okay, sounds complicated....
"And then, they coerce Dane to mess with Terra by having a weed-fueld threesome."
Uh....wtf....
That's so mean? Poor Terra. They bullied her for her feelings??? And she's a plus-sized girl. Why is it always the plus-sized girls having their hearts broken and their emotions belittled? Ugh.
I don't like how they replaced Flora with her. Flora was my favorite character.
Yeah how they handled Dane’s relationships was a mess. Imo Riven treats him poorly, but for some reason Dane is still interested in him.
To explain how forgetable Dane is...
Every 10 seconds I forget his name and when I talk about him, I call him Gay-Bi token guy.
Just gove me some actual male representation, not this weird pussy.
Isn't that portrayal 100% biphobic, too? The whole 'bi = cheating on everyone and messing with people's feelings' narrative? Yikes.
@@NovaKnight_ Bi people can be bad people too...
@@universalpower419 *Anyone* can be a bad person, but that portrayal being enforced onto openly bi characters is toxic to the bi community that have to deal with similar stereotypes being projected onto them in real life.
My favorite scene is when Sky says, "I fix people to I don't have to deal with the fact that I'm fucking broken...." Then Sky and Bloom make out and then Sky faints cause Bloom drugged him. I laughed for a good 10 minutes with that one!
Ahaha yeah that was hilarious. It’s weird tho how he wasn’t bothered by it at all - I guess Bloom can get away with anything, including drugging people?
I was like is this supposed to be romantic? I was honestly laughing in the last episodes because everything was so ridiculous
Oh, if you wanna know about Riven in the OG series, he was the love interest for Musa. I don't know how Riven turned out in the Netflix show, but in the original, he was temperamental and cocky, although he starts mellowing out in the later seasons. In the first season, they even have him brainwashed by one of the 3 witches because she falls in love with him and he fights the protagonists. But out of all the love interests, he and Musa had the most on-and-off relationship, which isn't something you'd often see for a main supporting couple in a kids show. I stopped watching after season 6, so I don't know what happened since then, but from where I left off, Musa and Riven had decided to take some time away from each other and had Riven actually leave. I think Riven and Musa's relationship wasn't the worst but it wasn't exactly healthy either since Riven obviously still had problems with his temper and pride. So I'm actually happy that the two decided to take a break from each other, and from what I've seen from the Wiki, although he's back, Musa isn't just accepting him back immediately.
Edit: Also I'm pissed that they wrote off Brandon, Stella's love interest, since his and Stella's relationship was arguably the best and healthiest one. In season 1, Brandon and Sky switched identities (and the reason varies in whichever dub you watched). The original show had Sky as a prince so Stella, who was sweet on Brandon at the time, thought that he was "Sky the Prince" while Bloom fell in love with "Brandon". When it gets revealed that they switched identities, both Stella and Bloom don't care because they fell in love with the person, not their position. Also in season 3, Stella was cursed into a hideous toad beast, and she was scared of Brandon getting to see her like this but Brandon, although being able to clearly see her new form, acted like he couldn't see the new form. And then they had a touching moment where he revealed that he could see her new form all along just as Stella transforms back into her regular self. Stella, although a little vain and impulsive, was truly a great friend and better fairy and an even better girlfriend, I can't believe they ruined her character and her love interest.
Musa and Riven are back together in season 8 apparently, it did take a while though
It's been a minute for me, but which guy died in the series and was later replaced by someone else in the OG series? I remembered hearing someone passing away, which doesn't happen often with one if the main's love interest.
Or was it in fact Riven but he's alive and just left? Trying to get my footing back ino the OG series lore.
@@thgritic102 Yes, Nabu... Aisha love interest
@@aquaaria3489
Gotcha! Been a long time.
as a winx kid, i dont recognize anything in this live-action remake. these just aren't the fairies i grew up with :(
Riven was one of my favorite characters (although I kinda loved all of them) and he had a will they won't they with Musa and was then hexed by Darcy to begin to hate Musa and fall for Darcy. I remember that being a really strong narrative as a kid because Riven had always been angsty and stuff but he was never a real jerk until he began to believe he could only trust Darcy and then when he went to her for just some genuine affection, she laughed in his face. Then when he was back Musa didn't just forgive him, he had to earn forgiveness and still take responsibility for how he treated her.
Stop letting grown men write shows for teenage girls
I mean... Teenage girls write fanfictions and they are exactly like this, what's your point?
@@universalpower419 fanfiction isn't an actual show, it's totally different.
A grown man created the original (much better) show
@@universalpower419 So you’re admitting that the grown ass man who wrote this has the same writing quality as teenage girls writing awful fanfics? I agree. They gotta hire someone who actually knows how to write TV series and not fanfic-level garbage fires.
the original was written by men, jfc get off this faux-feminist high horse.
"Aisha is literally the only one with no semblance of romantic relationship which is very weird...(...)...I don't know why they wouldn't have taken some more time for a personal story with her"
Notices Aisha is black: *hmmmmmmmmm I wonder why*
Also notices that all of the main characters are straight because LGBT shows on Netflix get cancelled - cries in Teenage Bounty Hunters
Funny that the showrunner was previously a vampire diaries writer, another teen fantasy drama with a black character who has no real love interests. It's such a disturbing trend to see.
sorry but i couldnt stand that show the dialogue made me cringe
*Cries in i'm not okay with this*
@@spaceoddities1652 im so disappointed that it got cancelled especially since the first season felt like a slow buildup for the second season
I am here to boost comments about the INJUSTICE done to Teenage Bounty Hunters
When they parents called Bloom to help on that scene, I was like "But her father os a freaking fire firer!" (In the original, and that is how they found baby Bloom). And why they made Bloom's mom a "Basic bitch"? And also, Bloom and Stella were friends when they first met (Bloom helped Stella to fight monster). And why they did that classic old fashion insulting female rivality (that the cartoon didn't even had)??
Sorry my rusty English.
And my comments notifications are disabled, so I can ignore ignorant people
The way Bloom handled/"developed" her powers reminded me of Rey in Star Wars. Little to no training and then BOOM - power overload. Also the backstory is kinda similar (not knowing her parents, being from a powerful bloodline).
Plot twist, season 2 Bloom moves to LA to start a business running gender reveal parties.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao 🤣🤣😂😂
LMFAO
😂lol
The fact that the most ethnically diverse characters were not shown or given a more significant back story is soooo disappointing😒😒😒
I laughed out loud during so many moments. WHY WAS TERRA TOUCHING EVERYTHING WITH HER BLOODY ASS HANDS!?!
"It's not terrible." Sorry, Amanda, it really is terrible. Terrible in its mediocrity. At least in things that are genuinely awful there's some fun in watching them (like Riverdale) but this is so atrociously eh that there's no fun to it at all and therefore is worse.
Yes, it is sooo bad.
Completely agreed
That’s being over exaggerating did you actually watch the show??
@@nicholasrobinson4210 you probably have not watched enough stuff to form an opinion and realise how mediocre and repetitive these tropes of tv shows are getting. Not a new thing in sight.
I swear I actually watched seasons of riverdale cause although it was cringy it was still entertaining. But here there was no entertainment value to be found
Bloom was the worst, she trusted a murderer even after the murderer confirmed the crime, distrusted her friends, Sky, teachers..., she's so instant on answers and when Dowling says I'll tell you tomorrow, we're about to be attacked, she can't wait and still goes to release Roselyn who Dowling has said is a war criminal, freeing her causes the whole attack on the school, then she drags two friends to confront the burned ones and away from all the trained fighters, greatly risking their lives without explanation. She's responsible for the arrest of Silver and the death of Dowling, and yet she's carefree, no consequences. She is just the worst.
The mansplain dialogue between Bloom and Sky made me wish I was the Burned One. The tone was a thousand times more awkward than my interactions with my middle school crush and that's saying something.
Can you talk about how CAOS ended with Nick killing himself to be with Sabrina and how problematic that is for the 14 yr old audience watching it? I hate to ask but I just see NO one talking about it
It’s literally the worst thing they could’ve done, literally romanticizing suicide when it’s the complete opposite. And I agree barely any people are talking about it and I worry how young teens watching that will internalize it, it basically sends the message that suicide is the answer for true love and would be happier than living without said person :/ Netflix and the writers suck
Somehow this feels like straight tiktok made into a series
It’s just a long POV compilation
This! This is the best analogy out there.
oh my god
That is maybe the best description I've ever heard.
So they took the best parts of the show (the friendship, the girls having their own unique and interesting stories, FLORA) and just threw them out the window
Yes
i feel so uncomfortable with this show. its just so bad in every way. it feels like a parody of the 'netflix adaptation' meme.
Ok, so I grew up with the original and I LOVED everything about it! The girls supporting girls, diversity, empowerment , sparkly drees-ups, you name it.
It was during middle school too, where kids become more ruthless when you don't fit into a group, so the general idea of the show was especially precious to me.
I hope this gets cancelled ASAP. If they even dare to blink in the direction of W.I.T.C.H. we riot!
At this point comparing these horrible shows to fanfiction is an insult to the well written well developed fanfiction. I doubt any winx club fan would write something this bad.
There is a condition where a person is able to percieve sounds as colors but I forgot the term for it. They could give this condition to Musa as a music fairy so she can see emotions, instead of changing her to an empath.
Me and my mum watched this, amd we basically spent the whole time trying to figure out who the heck was the villain-
Correction: Nothing will top Catwoman looking up "the cat in history" 😂😂
I HAVE SO MUCH ANGER THAT THEY REMOVED TECNA, BRANDON, HELIA, TIMMY, THE TRIX IN GENERAL FOR JUST ONE GIRL, AND NABU. These characters better be introduced in season 2 or I’m throwing hands. Also the only hint they gave us about Aisha’s powers is that she is really strong and can’t maintain her great control on such small scales. Also, the relationships in this show make my head hurt so much. I’m tired of these weirdly toxic things, like people really throwing all their trauma on each other and pushing away their blame onto others.
As a person who tries to appear smarter by writing color-coded notes, I feel attacked
There isn't any character development.
They're at a school that teaches them how to use their powers. But we haven't seen any of that.
We don't care or have been made to feel invested in any of the characters including bloom.
It all seems a bit ridiculous and pointless
Holy cow, how have I not heard about this? Winx Club was a focal point of my childhood along with Tokyo Mew Mew and Sailor Moon. Hearing that it's been butchered this way makes me understand when people say something "ruined their childhood".
Even though Winx Club, in my opinion, peaked around Believix, the later seasons were still adhering to the same themes. I dropped off around the Bloomix season so I'm not completely sure what happened but friendship and forgiveness seem to be major themes even then. Making Winx Club into Riverdale is like making Pretty Cure into Madoka Magica. It's going to alienate the old fans and bore the new ones.
Techna, Musa, and Aisha were some of my favorite characters. Aisha having to recover from the death of Nabu and being unable to revive him was a really emotional experience so hearing her made into a bad guy is saddening. I'm sorta glad that Techna wasn't there because I know they would have butchered her too. Also, doesn't Roxy have the same story? They could have done something with her.
As an old fan, if you are interested, just watch the orginal.
Pause musa and riven aren’t together in this.theres literally no reason to change that but ok
I was also very confused...
In the cartoon Musa and Riven aren't together in the first season either. Riven gets hypnotized by Darcy to fall in love with her, so this is something they kind of kept in the remake. Still a terrible remake though.
@@lrose1310
But there is no Darcey...so...what are they really doing right now?
Probably because musa and Rivera should never be together in any universe
@@themelanatednomad6989 I think they replace the Trix with one character, which is Beatrix
Riven was the edgy boyfriend who dated Musa and the relationship was quite toxic.
Yeah, Riven was a jerk.
@@johannageisel5390 I'm still watching season 8 so not sure how or if they fixed him. I'll see but I doubt it . Season 8 was blah so far. I love the outfits though.
And what the hell is with Helia and Flora now having meaningless conflicts. Weren't they always the mature couple?
Season 5 literally had Flora stop talking to Helia because he has a friend that is a girl. Like seriously Flora, are you *THAT* immature? Jesus.
*Flora is my favorite Winx, but I'll say it. She was in the wrong.*
And don't get me started on them fighting because of freaking Riven in Season 8. Lol
@@curefestive1774 It was the worst so I don't know ether. Maybe they think so because it's more realistic with what teens had to deal with growing up? In my opinion the best was Aisha with Nabu and Flora with Helia which Rai both ruined later down the road.
I remember him being a jerk
"This feels like fanfiction"
*literally tells the plot of original winx*
I can not believe they canceled the next season of Teenage Bounty Hunters. My sister and I were both shocked - I know you have other things on your docket but i’d love to see a video on that!! Awesome video!
Me watching this, named Stella, watching them turn her into someone I now hate who I used to look up to 👁👄👁
Me and my roommate were OBSESSED with Winx as kids. She was Stella, I was Bloom. But now we cannot live together due to covid and we have Netflix on my laptop and have to hold back not to watch it without her
So they cancel GLOW, The Society and Teenage Bounty Hunters in favor of this?
Right...
Don’t forget ‘I am not okay with this’ and ‘Anne With an E’
And mindhunter
Emerson A.
Did they cancel Mindhunters? It’s been so long that I just assumed they did, but never heard anything official.
@@archer1949 I mean it's technically indefinitely postponed...but I'm pretty sure that it's never coming back.
Literally cannot stand anything about this show. What was wrong with colors and fun?
honestly at this point the ''''remake'''' has so little to do with the original series they might as well have made a new series from scratch. taking a beloved franchise, stripping it from everything that its fan loved about it isn't just rebranding it's plain rewriting (and badly, at that)
Literally suffered through the first ep before making any assumptions but my god. They ruined Stella's character in her first scene. She doesn't hate Alfea, she loves it and calls it the best magic school for fairies. Her entire character is butchered just by that one scene. Yes, she is rich and a princess but she is portrayed as a brat and spoiled. Her friendship with Bloom was literally in ep 1 of the first season.
I was willing to overlook Terra despite the inaccuracy, but it's like the only purpose of putting her there is so she can be bullied because of her size and anxiety around other people. Like what is the point of this? What makes the og Winx stand out is the diversity in the characters and the message of friendship and teamwork, and I feel like there is none of that, even though I didn't bother watching the other 4 ep.
It's like the creators didn't even watch the original before making this and decided to go ham
Just for the record, probably Iginio Straffi (Italian, he's from my region) thought "most cartoons are for boys" because in those years, in Italy, Pokemon, Digimon, Dragon Ball and overall most popular anime shows were mostly labeled for boys and watched by boys, and girls were almost discouraged to enjoy them. Like, both boys and other girls mocked & excluded you for liking them. Italian girls only had Sailor Moon and a few other obscure anime on TV, and Totally Spies weren't popular at all (I'm not even sure if they aired after the Winx, here). So, yeah, in Italy the Winx actively helped girls to have their own spaces and heroines, and left the road open for more female-led cartoons (both other anime, such as Mew Mew or similar, and local productions like W.I.T.C.H.)
The change to have mixed gender fairies and specialists is one of the very few positives about this show (I *loved* Winx club growing up)
The fact that they got rid of tecna made me so disappointed. Tecna inspired me to look into technology and now I’m a computer science major. It pisses me off so much.
Dammit Netflix, stop ignoring the success of colorful shows that happen to be really mature and stop insisting that all that young adults want to watch is Sabrina or Riverdale. I would be disappointed but I lost all faith in Netflix months ago.
they stay not giving the black girl a love interest or giving her an underdeveloped storyline
OG Winx marathon (first 3 seasons + 1st movie) to cleanse our souls starting soon
Imagine how good this story would have been with bright colours and better costumes. Fairy transformations. Beautiful worlds. But no it looks like shit
Oh well it's only gonna get worse so I guess all we can do is buckle up
The first 4 seasons were perfect. After that it went down hill because, and I'm not joking, the creator decided that older kids no longer watch cartoons so he transitioned it to a preschool show and reset all the relationships and character development.
As a fan of the original (the first three seasons, it falls apart after that and gets very stupid very fast, "Let's have a whole season where they run a magic pet shop because... reasons?" *cough merchandising is probably the reason cough*) this whole video tried to give me an aneurism. There are so many random and seemingly unnecessary changes. Alfea isn't in Solaria, Stella was kind of annoying at first and shallow but wasn't a bitch, Stella and Bloom weren't romantic rivals at all and they cut Brandon (Stella's love interest) entirely which is extra weird because Brandon wasn't royalty and that became an issue which is the exact kind of drama you'd think they'd want here? The Trix weren't fairies, the fairies, specialists, and witches all had separate schools, Flora, why don't the fairies have wings? Most of them were princesses, Bloom's birth family weren't evil blood witches, why is there no color anywhere? just. so many questions. WTF.
Admittedly, some things worked better in a kids cartoon kind of setting such as Musa's music powers and the magical girl transformation sequences and some changes were probably for the best like the school being co-ed and probably Musa and Riven not being a thing because that relationship was toxic more often than not (although making your toxic douche even worse and involved in your only LGBT+ storyline is... a bit questionable? Idk, feels weird) but still. It seems like they changed so much that it's almost unrecognizable.
Also, if you were wondering, Riven IS an asshole in the original too but in more of a brooding, emotionally constipated, edgy bad boy kind of way not a making inappropriate sexual comments kind of way because kids show and he also has redeeming moments every once in a while since he's generally supposed to be one of the good guys.
To give the show some credit: the sheep farmer from the beginning wandered out not in. The barrier protects the good guys from the evil creatures.
We never even learn if he was a magical person or not. Only that he died.
@@appleholo2707 The barrier seems to only exists around Alfea and Solaria (the other realms aren’t really mentioned so idk about them). However, not everyone in the area has Magic, for example the Specialists. We do know that burned ones don’t go to the First World (Earth) and that the one that chased Bloom was the first they were concerned about. Also taking into consideration that they make a semi big deal about the woods and that all the students know about it, it’s probably pretty close to the school.
@@TwilightLabyrinth09 Yeah. Thanks for mentioning that! In the original cartoon, The Specialists were magical which is why they were able to get through Alfea's barrier (only magical creatures can enter) because they could perform magic but didn't.