I actually believe she raps better then the city girls, or sexy redd, glorilla. Sooo....let's not act as if she's he worst of them all cause she's Hispanic (multiracial) and raps.
I saw Ice Spice when she was opening for Doja Cat, and the crowds reaction to her doing the bare minimum was unbelievable. She did her same walk across the stage, point her finger, bend over and shake ass and they were living!! As someone who appreciates REAL performances the Beyonces, Brunos, Ushers. VICTORIA MONETS etc i just didnt understand the hype.
@cashaetaylor7466 how is it a lie? It's what I witnessed. They applauded her for doing the smallest things and your comment is proving my point. Nobody is "hating". I'm just not applauding mediocrity, ESPECIALLY in the world of Beyonce, Janet, Chloé, Victoria etc. Artists who really put blood, sweat and tears into their live performances and music.
All of them are talented because all of them have had songs go viral that’ve resonated in masse with the public. Yall are doing the same thing yall cry about when others do it; acting like there could only be one talented girl and uplifting one girl while shading another🤦🏾♀️
Ice has preschool level raps and no personality to make up for it. Like she’s actually very boring, being a baddie is her whole identity which is played out now. The only reason Saweetie made it as far as she did is cause she was a vibe, fun, ate quirky foods, and even though the performances are comical she keeps trying. Dating a Migo did help a bit. Also Saweetie never really picked a side in the Cardi and Nicki beef which I feel is important to note. Ice was being weird and shady with both of them and lost both fan bases. Now Ice is melting 🫠
yeah like saweetie just minds her own business with the fun music she has...and actually tries to improve but ice on the other hand...I was rooting for ice to like improve or something but nahhh the album's ass
@@glob166not really into female rap in general and while I don’t like saweetie it’s because of the personality she does have, but atleast she has one and that’s my opinion on it which doesn’t matter to anyone really I won’t hate on her for it. but ice spice literally has nothing but an ass and you find yourself very quickly saying “shut up and bend twerk already” watching her attempts to be interesting 🤣
Since, Ice Spice came on the scene. Ive been saying she has no talent. I didnt get all the hype. Im glad everyone else is finally seeing it. Bout damn time.
@@ganja_burn_9516 A plant for??? 😂😂😂 what help ICE is her and Riot came together and their families are in the business which is something people don't talk about. Her dad is a black underground rapper. Riot dad is a popular DJ. Yall think her dad will not protect his daughter, yall are slow. 😂😂😂
Let’s be real….Nicki called ice the people Princess not the actual Princess. I honestly think the title of Princess should go to Doja Cat. She’s already a major factor in rap and in 5 years her talent is gonna be undeniable to everyone the more he catalogue increases cause people are trying to downplay her
I dont even think its a debate... just like Nicki is FOR SURE queen of rap, Doja is FOR SURE princess... theres no convincing me otherwise. Look at the material!
I bet you people just saying that cause ice spice is a white Hispanic girl making it . 🎉 you wouldn't b complaining if she was fully black. 🙄 thats what's so disgusting the world is seeing how racist african Americans are. Keep going....go on.
People fail to realize it's great to be pretty, but you have to be pretty and talented. It's one thing to get the publics attention, but now you have to keep it.
This is why I forever will love timeless music, 90s-2000s r&b. I will turn on a song that is a vibe every so often but, I gotta fall back on music that makes me feel good as well as music that is well put together.
@@UNAPOLOGETIC2012_ They beefing over Nicki. ICE was the only artist who stood up for Nicki. Which everyone forgot about. However, when NICKI WAS GOING THREW THAT BS WITH THE GRAMMYS.. ICE HAD HER BACK. THEN LATTO GOT MAD WHEN ICE GOT A NICKI FEATURE BUT LATTO BEEN BEGGING HER FOR ONE FOR YEARS.
Bring back talent!! Bring back the days where artist made 1 good song and disappeared… these artist are really 1 hit wonders that stood around too long period!!
I agree 💯 about the 'light skin' privilege. Not that people choose their Favs based on skin, but more that the Artists who cut in line riding on that aesthetic over their talent are FINALLY getting exposed it seems like in 2024 (Ice, Drake, J-Lo, Camila Cabello). *Ice Spice always talking about 'Mammy' and 'poopy' is ironic af cuz she gives off step-child vibes and Nicki pays her dust just like one 😂. I NEVER thought this year I'd have more respect for Latto as a rapper over Ice lol.
@@bimbam9603Yup people were calling Nani forever 21 music but i’d listen to that before listening to “i’m miss poopie I need a diaper”…. Nani is a cute summer song to sing while in the car driving to the mall or something. It puts you in a fun mood. Not every artist needs to be a deep lyrical rapper there’s a place for saweetie. Also her choreo ate in that video low key ngl.
Ice was fun and seemed like a lighthearted girl separate from the drama and then Latto happened and it changed her image. She’s no longer the fun alternative and right in the mess with the others. She’s better off avoiding drama and just going back to the cute, fun, happy image that worked.
I agree with this. She does have a lane and the beef derailed it for a bit. She needs to get back to herself. And I am actually a fan. I want to see her win 🎉. I actually do believe she is talented but needs more development as stated. I feel like she has a drive and that may push her to improvement. This maybe her first rough patch since the initial launch. But aye, what do I know. 🤷🏽♀️ And I can still agree with what was said in this video. Helpful criticism still sharpens the dull areas.
everything was going great when she did the collab w pinkpantheress and had her cute fun image she ruined it attaching herself w nicki whos beyond shady and like u said, this latto drama circus
I've been calling her a flop since Deli simply because I don't see ENERGY there. She always has this poker face, no attitude, not moving much, and they tried to convince me that this is✨aesthetic!✨ boy pls... yall made her famous, now she's your problem.
@@originalblerd Well, I explained in my comment. I don't know if you're thinking about numbers or the success of the song when I say "flop", but I'm talking about Ice herself and what comes with her: NOTHING. She gives me nothing. She's a white wall.
A lot has to do with Taylor Swift picking the lightest skinned rapper to be her project. She gets the black card but without actually supporting a “black” passing woman. Taylor and her fanbase is the problem here.
Well the only reason Taylor even chose to have Ice featured is bc her weird gross boyfriend at the time made those racist weird comments about Ice. It's giving damage control...
It also boils down to having a good team. Ice has good management verses some of the other girls. Good management makes a huge difference when getting in certain rooms, its who you know alot of time's too.
she got WAY TOO MUCH off the rip and didn't have to really work for her spot so she's just not as hungry for it or trying as hard as she really should be to be where she is... lets be real
Why a moronic comment, they sound nothing like, they actually have opposite voices 😂 Nicki's rapping voice (outside some of her alter egos) is dark husky, and Ice has a light airy voice.
here's the thing: Ice spice does drill music. Drill music has been poppin, but recently hype behind it has been decreasing. None of this girls can do drill like ice. Ice spice has the voice and the flow for it. I think ice spice does bring that to the table. We cant compare her to the other rap girls that really rap but shes a vibe for sure. She also did switch her flow up on phat butt.
She does have a cool rap voice and can sometimes sound good, that’s not enough for all the platforms she has access to She’s honestly way less developed than so many unsigned artists and her vibe gives me nepo baby If you aren’t prepared to put the effort into getting better, if music isn’t your passion and you look and sound bored in your music, then…
We all knew when Munch got big that Ice Spice wasn't a lyricist. Similar to Sexyy Red, people listen to her simply because it's catchy or a good song to get hype to- and that's it. If you're expecting her to give you triple entendres in her songs then you're gonna be disappointed every time. It's okay to have music to listen to that's just fun or is background noise... that's what Ice Spice is.
He is too scared to call a spade a spade because people will drag him for giving an honest review. People these days have to fake gag out of fear of backlash and being labeled "insensitive" to poor ol' megan.
@@AG-fg1uk Yep it’s much easier for him to throw shade and blame the barbz and Nicki for Ice Spice hype as if she wasn’t a meme the gp hyped up for a whole summer. But when it comes to Megan it must be praise, worship and fake gagging for mediocrity or you get called “misogynoirstic” 🙇🏾♀️😂 These fan bases seem genuinely so angry that the barbz let these other girls flop, because deep down they know Barbz move the needle, like the why he kept saying “talent!😠” and “after those messages got exposed that’s when y’all finally stopped supporting Ice 🙄” it was all so telling to me .
Truthfully no shade but I’m tired of this same conversation. Everyone wants to bring up dark skin girls whenever they want to bring down another girl who isn’t darkskin, but when that same girl is dropping music or albums or whatever no one is there to support them. So you guys’ support is really just online, and y’all only use them to explain things like how ice spice is still popular instead of them. It’s not genuine and it’s really weird imo you don’t genuinely like them you just dislike ice spice and other girls like ice spice and you’re using them as your reasoning.
People do support the darkskin women!! But there’s only so much we the people can do. The problem is that they don’t get the same push from record labels and the same opportunities as the lightskin girls
I agree about Ice Spice but where was this light skin sentiment when Cardi B emerged? Let’s face it, Cardi is not a talented rapper but was pushed with millions in marketing and the public ate it up. Where was this energy then?
Cardi b is definitely a talented rapper especially compared to ice and sexy red… also Cardi was famous for her personality and her being on a reality tv show but she Been rapping for years before her big break too tho
They pushed Cardi b so she can replace Niki Minaj. Cardi b doesn't right her own music never has, her rap skills sucks the only reason why she's still relevant till this day is because of her sex appeal 🤷🏾♀️
I broke my back getting over here lol. It’s very clear that she is. The only female rappers I will say that don’t base themselves on Nicki and have there own identity is: “Megan, Doja and Glo”
doja is directly inspired by nicki with how she raps. maybe not the looks but she almost sounds exactly like one of nicki's alters. she even says it herself.
@@goat5hitshe’s been heavily inspired for sure but she’s grown as an artist and is creating an identity of her own in both her music and style which differentiates her from the rest of the girls
Nicki Minaj is an Animated and pop star rapper, most of these raps chicks (Megan, Cardi, Glo) are street type hood rappers that ain't EVER been apart of Nicki's style
I’m excited for ice spice’s new album. I do understand where y’all coming from. I be turning up to ice spice alone fr, sometimes I just need a little grah during my workout
A lot of people have echoed those same sentiments in regards to Flo Milli but Flo Milli got her beautiful black axx on Twitter and called us “tired” for it, so…
@@alkahinat4558 yea that’s what I took it as. I’d hate to be looked at as the “poor darkskin girl” if I’m far from it and she is. I also see the topic being weaponized by ppl who just don’t like artists like Ice Spice, they don’t really care about the colorism aspect of it all they’re just anti-whoever. Those are the ppl she was probably speaking to, but I’m not one of those who pretend to know these celebrities so idk. She could just be blissfully ignorant and that’s fine too I guess.
@@JReece3000definitely, thing is people get really weird/triggered about colourism and are quick to fling out the victim insult if you dare to mention it…but dismissing it was going a bit far, sometimes not addressing something is better
I think the problem is that Ice Spice is TikTok era. All of the snippets for the songs leading up seem like she’s finally going to do something and then when they drop they’re all wanna be viral tracks that are 2 minutes or less. Beyoncé said it best, new artists don’t make albums. They just wanna chart or make the next viral song. I feel like Ice’s album is just going to sound like the same 3 songs on repeat.
Light/bright/half-white skin girlie here to weigh in! Definitely colorism! Ice spice is 🗑️ & I knew that from day 1. That Annie wig literally got her in the door and the drill music bc they stood out on top of her look and complexion. She rode a couple coattails to the top and now the hype is over. It's the end of Ice Spice, debut album or not!! Flo Millie is that girl. I wish the colorism would stop bc it's ruining our music!!!!!! Glad she is starting to get more recognition she deserves it and more! But to be honest I do feel the GP is getting tired of the same look over and over. At least I hope so. Also I feel like it's sexism bc they don't keep dark skin men out of the industry but somehow dark skin women can't be pushed the way light skins are. I'm a big fan of Dreezy too and it's the same thing. Smh
Girl they still not gonna like you even though you tearing down you’re own kinds That’s on them for giving them the attention. They needa take accountability as well tf
i’m not crazy about ice like that however i feel bad for all these rap girls. it’s really sad that none of them can do anything without nicki being brought up. literally every thing they do somehow goes back to her. i’ve never seen a group of people gatekeep a genre just for one person to thrive as if they all can’t be here. i just don’t think it’s fair so kudos to all of them for still doing their thing
that's because in our genreation, nicki is the queen of rap. She's the only rapper out right now that's still popular where you can say she has the talent, and the numbers to back up her title. And unless another female rapper comes out that's more talented than nicki, and has her type of reach I'll keep comparing the new rap girlies to her because she's the standard atm. If they're not on her level yet, they don't deserve her title.
@@jimams_jamz5518 oh my god who cares about titles and charts though? y’all take it so seriously like this is a job. i only care about these women’s music
When did Nicki say she was the princess of rap? I understood that bar to be a play on the song title “Princess Diana”.. Nicki always throws in a bar that references the featured artist or song title. My brain refuses to think anything more
Doja cats concert was my favorite performance I saw all year. Seeing her talent live was inspiring. I left with the same euphoric feeling I did from Renaissance & not everyone can do that👀
Her management team (nicki's old team) used her to get revenge, and it backfired big time, so now they're pandering, like how doja do every time that one song ends.
I mean she should want to get brought up. Why is this new girl getting more hype than you and coverage when Flo how been out wayyyy longer and has more talent
Let’s be honest.. Nicki was trying to call Ice Spice the Princess out of spite towards, Cardi, Megan, Doja, Latto etc.. but in return it back fired on her and the barbz and now Ice Spice and her team are harassing Nicki image and the barbz using them for what they can get left and they probably hoping for a beef with Nicki to push this album.. regardless of what it feels like every time a female rapper beef with Nicki or when the barbz engage with another female rapper with hate or love their career sky rocket.. with Ice Spice being from The Bronx it’s like Nicki was trying to take her under her wing to jab at Cardi but Cardi didn’t even like Ice Spice lol so it’s funny how Nicki run to work with female rappers that predominantly be trash that don’t like Cardi and it’s odd!
What does multi face has to do with anything?? I promise nicki ain't worried about any of them. She is on a successful WORLD TOUR right now outselling, outperforming, out shining this girlies 15+ years into her career.
Nicki worked with all the females you named. Working with Ice or any of these girls never benefited her. Cardi’s entire career is because of Nicki Minaj. Her whole small fan base exist out of spite of Nicki Minaj… all them will ALWAYS be in Nicki’s shadow… let’s not. And Nicki never called ice the princess of rap she was repeating the magazine article that called ice the peoples princess as well as the song being titled Princess Diana
@@lynnpear20Y’all are wrong and annoying!! Ice and Cardi are both industry plants! Also These so called artists WANTED A NICKI FEATURE BECAUSE IT BENIFITS THEM!!
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Ice spice is what happens when you prop someone up too early 4 Grammy nominations 50 million Spotify listeners, two of the biggest artists supporting (Taylor and Nicki) her and y’all thoughts she was going to live up to all that pressure….. She was always going to fail cause she was never given the chance to grow
Let's keep it 💯. Nicki used Spice and Spice used Nicki. She knew that girl wasn't talented, but took it as an opportunity to attempt to replace Latto. In my opinion, thats what Nicki, Spice, and the Barbs get. Stop spitefully supporting artists and just support your fave. Y'all are wasting your time, money & energy.
None of this affects Nicki or the Barbz Lmaoo the people flopping are Latto and Ice… y’all hate be having y’all foaming at the mouths so much that you don’t even think logically
@lynnpear20 girl, please. Y'all are the only ones on the internet foaming at the mouths the minute any rap girl Nicki doesn't like does anything. Your psycho Barb crew are on iTunes right now giving 1 🌟 and writing negative reviews on a rap girls' album y'all aren't supposed to care about. Your fanbase wrote the manual on hateful, unhinged and deranged behavior.
Tbh I agree. There was no reason for Ice to get two collaborations from a rap vet. Then the whole supporting people out of spite…makes the barbs look crazy because when the untalented person turns on Nicki, they are forced to turn on them. Then they’ll make fun of the person for being untalented, but it’s like well you blew smoke up their as-…blame yourselves 🥴
“The Latto and Ice Spice Beef- sounding like a Starbucks order” 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣✨✨👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
With saweetie in the middle 😂
I laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
😂 I’m cryiiiiing
I'm getting tired of dark skinned black women only getting talked about when it comes to a topic like colorism, I'm so over it.
This is so real . The only time you hear about Flo milli and Doechi is when the convo involves colorism
I feel that entirely
@@KunjiHalla And normani 😭
It’s annoying
In this scenario I’m not he’s proving a point on the agenda of this industry and it’s colorism
"THE TALENT WAS REALLY NEVER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT Y'ALL BLEW HER UP BECAUSE SHE WAS A CUTE GIRL IN AN ANNIE WIG" - wildddddd🤣🤣🤣
No lie was told lol
THANK YOU
Screamed!!! 😂😂 I mean, no lies told tho.
And Nicki co-signed her too just for two top 10s. She’s a fraud too
He chewed her ass up with that one 😂😂😂😂
Flo Milli and Doechii deserve Ice Spice's spot in the culture. They DELIVER!
They really do
YES!
RIGHT
Doechii way more musically interesting
Tell it to the queen who co-signed
"And I'll tell you what is missing...it's talent!" 😭😂
I actually believe she raps better then the city girls, or sexy redd, glorilla. Sooo....let's not act as if she's he worst of them all cause she's Hispanic (multiracial) and raps.
Not one damn lie, either!!!
Everyone knows that and she still got the cosign 😂🤡
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣facts
I saw Ice Spice when she was opening for Doja Cat, and the crowds reaction to her doing the bare minimum was unbelievable. She did her same walk across the stage, point her finger, bend over and shake ass and they were living!! As someone who appreciates REAL performances the Beyonces, Brunos, Ushers. VICTORIA MONETS etc i just didnt understand the hype.
That's a lie.. because I seen in Chicago and she had a standing ovation. The hate is real 💯
@cashaetaylor7466 how is it a lie? It's what I witnessed. They applauded her for doing the smallest things and your comment is proving my point. Nobody is "hating". I'm just not applauding mediocrity, ESPECIALLY in the world of Beyonce, Janet, Chloé, Victoria etc. Artists who really put blood, sweat and tears into their live performances and music.
@@thatgirlamber14they love to idolize these celebs who could careless about them, their comment just proves the point…
I saw that too! I was thinking is this what people are really impressed by?
It dosen‘t take much these days. Apparently everybody eats
THANK YOU for the Flo Milli appreciation!! That tiny desk was insane if you missed it, that’s a REAL talented rap girl!!!
Gworl where’s the link !! I wanna see😂
Exactly she went ahead and chewed that up
All of them are talented because all of them have had songs go viral that’ve resonated in masse with the public. Yall are doing the same thing yall cry about when others do it; acting like there could only be one talented girl and uplifting one girl while shading another🤦🏾♀️
She’s that girl !!!!!
@@SupernaturalLove100 Viral ≠ Talent. People make anyone famous these days.
Ice has preschool level raps and no personality to make up for it. Like she’s actually very boring, being a baddie is her whole identity which is played out now.
The only reason Saweetie made it as far as she did is cause she was a vibe, fun, ate quirky foods, and even though the performances are comical she keeps trying. Dating a Migo did help a bit. Also Saweetie never really picked a side in the Cardi and Nicki beef which I feel is important to note. Ice was being weird and shady with both of them and lost both fan bases. Now Ice is melting 🫠
😂 💯
"Now Ice is melting" 😂
yeah like saweetie just minds her own business with the fun music she has...and actually tries to improve but ice on the other hand...I was rooting for ice to like improve or something but nahhh the album's ass
@@glob166not really into female rap in general and while I don’t like saweetie it’s because of the personality she does have, but atleast she has one and that’s my opinion on it which doesn’t matter to anyone really I won’t hate on her for it. but ice spice literally has nothing but an ass and you find yourself very quickly saying “shut up and bend twerk already” watching her attempts to be interesting 🤣
The screaming over Sean Paul 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm on the FLOOR!!!😂
Im saying 😂 Sean Paul tried to give it the co-sign though
Poor Sean lol 🤦🏾♀️
@@TheGlowBarbie did he really lol 😆
@@cheetahgirlfan32 Chile 😂😂
Since, Ice Spice came on the scene. Ive been saying she has no talent. I didnt get all the hype. Im glad everyone else is finally seeing it. Bout damn time.
I’ve is an industry plant
@@ganja_burn_9516
A plant for??? 😂😂😂 what help ICE is her and Riot came together and their families are in the business which is something people don't talk about. Her dad is a black underground rapper. Riot dad is a popular DJ. Yall think her dad will not protect his daughter, yall are slow. 😂😂😂
Ice is not trying to claim she is the best rapper. She makes baddie music. Y'all be reaching.. 😂😂😂
@@cashaetaylor7466she’s an industry plant, we don’t even know who’s funding her
@@cashaetaylor7466 She makes bad music. That's it. Thats all.
i’ve BEEN saying flo milli deserves better. she taps into so many sounds.
She's not a rapper
@trinisrar1930 are you possibly deaf🙂
@@cadebrad4330you’re on to something
8:46 you forgot Cupcakke when you mention rap girls…😢 her flow, bars, speed, pop culture reference, shade, punchlines..SHE CAN RAAAAP!
right!!! folks be overlooking cupcakke 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾 & i love her & she’s talented!!!
Facts💯especially the grilling niggas song
!!
Let’s be real….Nicki called ice the people Princess not the actual Princess. I honestly think the title of Princess should go to Doja Cat. She’s already a major factor in rap and in 5 years her talent is gonna be undeniable to everyone the more he catalogue increases cause people are trying to downplay her
I dont even think its a debate... just like Nicki is FOR SURE queen of rap, Doja is FOR SURE princess... theres no convincing me otherwise. Look at the material!
@@TonyUkjust like doja is for sure a DEMON 😂 STOP IT
It was just a play on Princess Diana. Not “rap” Princess
I bet you people just saying that cause ice spice is a white Hispanic girl making it . 🎉 you wouldn't b complaining if she was fully black. 🙄 thats what's so disgusting the world is seeing how racist african Americans are. Keep going....go on.
Y'all be so damn corny and annoying with your FAKE ASS titles ain't no queens or princesses 🤣
People fail to realize it's great to be pretty, but you have to be pretty and talented. It's one thing to get the publics attention, but now you have to keep it.
This is why I forever will love timeless music, 90s-2000s r&b. I will turn on a song that is a vibe every so often but, I gotta fall back on music that makes me feel good as well as music that is well put together.
The LATTO beef had no point,
No motivo
No buzz
No hype
Nothing
The bar is in hell in female rap over and over
Im pretty sure she got in that latto beef for attention and views for that shitty fart song to roll out 😂😂
Like yeah both flopped, tf why they beefin LOL
@@UNAPOLOGETIC2012_ they both about to release an album, so you know.. 👀
@@UNAPOLOGETIC2012_
They beefing over Nicki. ICE was the only artist who stood up for Nicki. Which everyone forgot about. However, when NICKI WAS GOING THREW THAT BS WITH THE GRAMMYS.. ICE HAD HER BACK. THEN LATTO GOT MAD WHEN ICE GOT A NICKI FEATURE BUT LATTO BEEN BEGGING HER FOR ONE FOR YEARS.
@@cashaetaylor7466😂 what in the idol worship is going on, smh society is gone
Bring back talent!! Bring back the days where artist made 1 good song and disappeared… these artist are really 1 hit wonders that stood around too long period!!
😂😂😂
😂
Whew chile series is giving me Wendy Williams hot topics vibes in the best way👏🏼
I actually can’t believe sweetie doesn’t have a debut album that’s insane😭
She has a mixtape that flopped horribly
I agree 💯 about the 'light skin' privilege. Not that people choose their Favs based on skin, but more that the Artists who cut in line riding on that aesthetic over their talent are FINALLY getting exposed it seems like in 2024 (Ice, Drake, J-Lo, Camila Cabello).
*Ice Spice always talking about 'Mammy' and 'poopy' is ironic af cuz she gives off step-child vibes and Nicki pays her dust just like one 😂. I NEVER thought this year I'd have more respect for Latto as a rapper over Ice lol.
I don’t even like Latto but she can rap her behind off. You’re Surprised?? 😳
And our queen played into the privilege versus putting a chocolate talented girl on. Shame shame shame
@@loveusyendi.7621👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@@loveusyendi.7621 Ooop! 👀
@@Khiarika1I was late. I didn't realize Latto talent until Ice started spiraling.
I am LIVING for you calling out light skin privilege. Not enough people do that. YES! 🙌🏿
We want the Woo Chile on Sexxy red
Agreed!
YES THE SAWEETIE APPRECIATION
We need more of that, Nani song is a BOP.
both of saweetie and spice need to go
@@lethamash7784 you can go too.
@@bimbam9603Yup people were calling Nani forever 21 music but i’d listen to that before listening to “i’m miss poopie I need a diaper”…. Nani is a cute summer song to sing while in the car driving to the mall or something. It puts you in a fun mood. Not every artist needs to be a deep lyrical rapper there’s a place for saweetie. Also her choreo ate in that video low key ngl.
@@lethamash7784NUH UH. at least saweetie is actually improving
Ice was fun and seemed like a lighthearted girl separate from the drama and then Latto happened and it changed her image. She’s no longer the fun alternative and right in the mess with the others. She’s better off avoiding drama and just going back to the cute, fun, happy image that worked.
I agree with this. She does have a lane and the beef derailed it for a bit. She needs to get back to herself. And I am actually a fan. I want to see her win 🎉. I actually do believe she is talented but needs more development as stated. I feel like she has a drive and that may push her to improvement. This maybe her first rough patch since the initial launch. But aye, what do I know. 🤷🏽♀️ And I can still agree with what was said in this video. Helpful criticism still sharpens the dull areas.
Thank youuuuuuuuu! It really took her into a lower lane and took away her mystery.
everything was going great when she did the collab w pinkpantheress and had her cute fun image she ruined it attaching herself w nicki whos beyond shady and like u said, this latto drama circus
Latto didn’t just appear. She’s BEEN rapping.
Latto NEEDS what Ice has (branding/uniqueness/aura) and Ice NEEDS what Latto has (talent). They are both honestly underwhelming
She’s an industry plant🌿🪴
Not me thinking “God’s Property” when you said “GP”.
“GP ARE YA WIT MAAAAYYY” 😭💀
OH YEAH WE HAVING CHURCH AIN’T GOING NO WHERE!!!
We having church ain't going No where 😅
"Lately I've been going through some things that really got me DOWN" 🙌🏾
***Raises the roof***🎉🎉🎉
💀
I've been calling her a flop since Deli simply because I don't see ENERGY there. She always has this poker face, no attitude, not moving much, and they tried to convince me that this is✨aesthetic!✨ boy pls... yall made her famous, now she's your problem.
Deli was a bop so idk why you were calling her a flop since then
@@originalblerd Well, I explained in my comment. I don't know if you're thinking about numbers or the success of the song when I say "flop", but I'm talking about Ice herself and what comes with her: NOTHING. She gives me nothing. She's a white wall.
Lmao you are delusional
Nicki was saying princess to play on words with the song Princess Diana not that she's the princess of Rap
Thank you !!!!!!!! If you a Nicki fan you would know this !
Next time we'll have one of the other Queens choose the princess because that was a bad decision cosigning ice spice😂😂😂
Well she knew what effect that would have, Nicki’s not dumb
she called her peoples princess on twitter
@@qlopez7413EXACTLY!!!
It was the "uh.....man" for me like you convincing me that ain't Nicki, you convincing me that ain't beez in the trap
That’s literally lil kim & biggie
@@hellogoodmorningloveice definitely didn't get that from no kim n biggie let's be real.
Can I get Ice Spice Latto w/ 4 sugars. I like it Sweetie.
🤣🤣🤣
cute 😂😂
😂😂😂😅
It's giving autumn/winter drink vibes
She could never get in the ring with MEG!! EVER !!
Can’t even get in the ring with DR SUESS
Put some respect on MEG. Who góis on a freestyle battle with meg? Im waiting
@@Adley0414 😂
@@jessicaluz4497 are you okay? This is not a DISS to Meg 😂😂
well megaman is higher
For that first time. I totally, wholeheartedly agree with you.
😂😂 same
A lot has to do with Taylor Swift picking the lightest skinned rapper to be her project. She gets the black card but without actually supporting a “black” passing woman. Taylor and her fanbase is the problem here.
And I think Taylor Swift is lowkey racist (remember she dated Matty Healy who is a known racist so) 🍵🤷🏻♀️
Well the only reason Taylor even chose to have Ice featured is bc her weird gross boyfriend at the time made those racist weird comments about Ice. It's giving damage control...
@@pacey5980 Exactly! Smh
Taylor fans are not the ones boosting random untalented lightskin girls. Rap has had this cycle waayyyy before Taylor did anything
It also boils down to having a good team. Ice has good management verses some of the other girls. Good management makes a huge difference when getting in certain rooms, its who you know alot of time's too.
yea ice management actually lets her release stuff unlike normani🤣
Yes but her new album wasn't the best she and her team could do..
This day and age we have an issue with letting a one hit wonder be a one hit wonder. Ice spice should have never kept going past 2023
she got WAY TOO MUCH off the rip and didn't have to really work for her spot so she's just not as hungry for it or trying as hard as she really should be to be where she is... lets be real
I thought that from the beginning!! Given way too much too soon!! Whereas rap girls with 10x the talent not it given a fraction of the attention!!
Why isn’t these girls original anymore and the ones who are original don’t get enough recognition and credit they not mainstream
Thank you! Ice Spice isn’t a rapper. It’s one thing to be influenced by/appreciate someone but to copy them to the tea is crazy. 😂
So why was she crowned the “Princess”
@@hellogoodmorninglove Becoz she's Nicki Lite
@@hellogoodmorninglove nobody crowned her princess.they crowned her the PEOPLES princesa.
She’s more like a pop girlie or like an influencer it feels like
Starbucks order😂😂😂
If you close your eyes it actually sounds like Nicki 😂😂
No no no don't do my girl lyk that😭nicki does her shit n not this fart that ice be on
Why a moronic comment, they sound nothing like, they actually have opposite voices 😂 Nicki's rapping voice (outside some of her alter egos) is dark husky, and Ice has a light airy voice.
here's the thing: Ice spice does drill music. Drill music has been poppin, but recently hype behind it has been decreasing. None of this girls can do drill like ice. Ice spice has the voice and the flow for it. I think ice spice does bring that to the table. We cant compare her to the other rap girls that really rap but shes a vibe for sure. She also did switch her flow up on phat butt.
She just mimicked the original flow, industry plants are so boring
She does have a cool rap voice and can sometimes sound good, that’s not enough for all the platforms she has access to
She’s honestly way less developed than so many unsigned artists and her vibe gives me nepo baby
If you aren’t prepared to put the effort into getting better, if music isn’t your passion and you look and sound bored in your music, then…
Drill???
ice can do pop too her songs "how high, butterfly ku, ect"
@@matd Not u Nest riding and industry plant🤡🫵🏼
We all knew when Munch got big that Ice Spice wasn't a lyricist. Similar to Sexyy Red, people listen to her simply because it's catchy or a good song to get hype to- and that's it. If you're expecting her to give you triple entendres in her songs then you're gonna be disappointed every time. It's okay to have music to listen to that's just fun or is background noise... that's what Ice Spice is.
Zachary imma need that Megan review on my desk by next Friday 😒
😂 😳😬
He is too scared to call a spade a spade because people will drag him for giving an honest review. People these days have to fake gag out of fear of backlash and being labeled "insensitive" to poor ol' megan.
@@AG-fg1uk Yep it’s much easier for him
to throw shade and blame the barbz and Nicki for Ice Spice hype as if she wasn’t a meme the gp hyped up for a whole summer. But when it comes to Megan it must be praise, worship and fake gagging for mediocrity or you get called “misogynoirstic” 🙇🏾♀️😂
These fan bases seem genuinely so angry that the barbz let these other girls flop, because deep down they know Barbz move the needle, like the why he kept saying “talent!😠” and “after those messages got exposed that’s when y’all finally stopped supporting Ice 🙄” it was all so telling to me .
@@AG-fg1uk idk why y'all barbs are still mad, Megan's new album is good. you guys probably haven't even heard the songs on there yet.🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
@France.leave.haiti-alone if it's so good why isn't anyone running to buy it? Y'all only support this girl on social media and never with your coins
Latto isn’t new, she’s just now. She been rapping since she was little
Facts, I first heard about latto when I was like 8 or 9 and I’m 21 now
Your skin GLOWINGUH!🤌
Ice completely copying Nicki's flow was not it. That just pissed us Barbs even more
I was disappointed in Nicki for even collabing with Ice Spice. Ice Spice was never that girl
Truthfully no shade but I’m tired of this same conversation. Everyone wants to bring up dark skin girls whenever they want to bring down another girl who isn’t darkskin, but when that same girl is dropping music or albums or whatever no one is there to support them. So you guys’ support is really just online, and y’all only use them to explain things like how ice spice is still popular instead of them. It’s not genuine and it’s really weird imo you don’t genuinely like them you just dislike ice spice and other girls like ice spice and you’re using them as your reasoning.
People do support the darkskin women!! But there’s only so much we the people can do. The problem is that they don’t get the same push from record labels and the same opportunities as the lightskin girls
MANNNN I was waiting on you to speak on this BS
I have been saying this since she first came out !!! Thanks Zach for recognizing this and keeping it real and giving the real taken their flowers!
The way I teleported here baby let me tell you💨♥️
Girl me tewwww🤣🫶🏽🫶🏽
@@yooneepauline1149 yess🤣🫶🏾
@@yooneepauline1149 yess boo😂🫶🏾
I agree about Ice Spice but where was this light skin sentiment when Cardi B emerged? Let’s face it, Cardi is not a talented rapper but was pushed with millions in marketing and the public ate it up. Where was this energy then?
Cardi b is definitely a talented rapper especially compared to ice and sexy red… also Cardi was famous for her personality and her being on a reality tv show but she Been rapping for years before her big break too tho
They pushed Cardi b so she can replace Niki Minaj. Cardi b doesn't right her own music never has, her rap skills sucks the only reason why she's still relevant till this day is because of her sex appeal 🤷🏾♀️
Yes! Latto would rap circles around her smh
I broke my back getting over here lol.
It’s very clear that she is.
The only female rappers I will say that don’t base themselves on Nicki and have there own identity is: “Megan, Doja and Glo”
doja is directly inspired by nicki with how she raps. maybe not the looks but she almost sounds exactly like one of nicki's alters. she even says it herself.
@@goat5hitshe’s been heavily inspired for sure but she’s grown as an artist and is creating an identity of her own in both her music and style which differentiates her from the rest of the girls
@@grayson3092 she kinda took nickis cartoony pop rap + singing to another level for sure and shes is a very versatile and good performer.
Damn the real gag is almost NO CURRENT FEMALE RAPPER sounds like Nicki aside from Doja Cat lmao
Nicki Minaj is an Animated and pop star rapper, most of these raps chicks (Megan, Cardi, Glo) are street type hood rappers that ain't EVER been apart of Nicki's style
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast
Girl same....
Right been waiting on this
I’m excited for ice spice’s new album. I do understand where y’all coming from. I be turning up to ice spice alone fr, sometimes I just need a little grah during my workout
I ain't sleeping yet. 🇵🇭 Lemme watch this
When he said talent vs hype I let I made a noise in shock because he really called it out
A lot of people have echoed those same sentiments in regards to Flo Milli but Flo Milli got her beautiful black axx on Twitter and called us “tired” for it, so…
She’s probably fatigued herself tbh
Are you fatigued by your own ignorance though
@@chayo4537 things I’m ignorant to don’t effect me, so no. Not sure what your point is.
@@alkahinat4558 yea that’s what I took it as. I’d hate to be looked at as the “poor darkskin girl” if I’m far from it and she is. I also see the topic being weaponized by ppl who just don’t like artists like Ice Spice, they don’t really care about the colorism aspect of it all they’re just anti-whoever. Those are the ppl she was probably speaking to, but I’m not one of those who pretend to know these celebrities so idk. She could just be blissfully ignorant and that’s fine too I guess.
@@JReece3000definitely, thing is people get really weird/triggered about colourism and are quick to fling out the victim insult if you dare to mention it…but dismissing it was going a bit far, sometimes not addressing something is better
your intro music puts me into fight or flight everytime lmaooo
Zach you looking skinny mini …. A gym babe a fitness papi A POKEMON GYM LEADER LOVE ITT LMAOO 😊
You’ve pretty much said what everyone has been thinking!💯THANK YOUUU!!👏👏
I think the problem is that Ice Spice is TikTok era. All of the snippets for the songs leading up seem like she’s finally going to do something and then when they drop they’re all wanna be viral tracks that are 2 minutes or less. Beyoncé said it best, new artists don’t make albums. They just wanna chart or make the next viral song. I feel like Ice’s album is just going to sound like the same 3 songs on repeat.
Not the Starbucks order chile 😂😂
Light/bright/half-white skin girlie here to weigh in! Definitely colorism! Ice spice is 🗑️ & I knew that from day 1.
That Annie wig literally got her in the door and the drill music bc they stood out on top of her look and complexion. She rode a couple coattails to the top and now the hype is over. It's the end of Ice Spice, debut album or not!!
Flo Millie is that girl. I wish the colorism would stop bc it's ruining our music!!!!!! Glad she is starting to get more recognition she deserves it and more! But to be honest I do feel the GP is getting tired of the same look over and over. At least I hope so.
Also I feel like it's sexism bc they don't keep dark skin men out of the industry but somehow dark skin women can't be pushed the way light skins are. I'm a big fan of Dreezy too and it's the same thing. Smh
Flo Millie is not that girl she is ok but there is way more talent blk girls out there
Yes!!👏🏿👏🏿
Girl they still not gonna like you even though you tearing down you’re own kinds That’s on them for giving them the attention. They needa take accountability as well tf
@@maljoe_7769who is they? you sound dumb
@@maljoe_7769 my mother is black. Ice spice is not my people. And she is trash. Next
It's the Annie wig for me!
i’m not crazy about ice like that however i feel bad for all these rap girls. it’s really sad that none of them can do anything without nicki being brought up. literally every thing they do somehow goes back to her. i’ve never seen a group of people gatekeep a genre just for one person to thrive as if they all can’t be here. i just don’t think it’s fair so kudos to all of them for still doing their thing
that's because in our genreation, nicki is the queen of rap. She's the only rapper out right now that's still popular where you can say she has the talent, and the numbers to back up her title. And unless another female rapper comes out that's more talented than nicki, and has her type of reach I'll keep comparing the new rap girlies to her because she's the standard atm. If they're not on her level yet, they don't deserve her title.
@@jimams_jamz5518 oh my god who cares about titles and charts though? y’all take it so seriously like this is a job. i only care about these women’s music
@@lunarblakecardi started the numbers game blame her
@@ParisMiley okay i agree that doesn’t mean people who are just consumers need to care this much
@@jimams_jamz5518Y'all are so miserable just listen to the music my God💀
When did Nicki say she was the princess of rap? I understood that bar to be a play on the song title “Princess Diana”.. Nicki always throws in a bar that references the featured artist or song title. My brain refuses to think anything more
"I did not live" 😂😂😂 1:06
you better tell em about our girl Doja 🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️TALENTED
Doja cats concert was my favorite performance I saw all year. Seeing her talent live was inspiring. I left with the same euphoric feeling I did from Renaissance & not everyone can do that👀
How have we not gotten a boy is mine remix reaction😭😭
Zachary😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
I cackled for 15 minutes and 12 seconds😂😂😂
Off topic but BABYYYYYY YOU LOOK SOOOO GOOD!!!
Zach you ain’t never lied
phat butt isn’t a bad song.
Yes it is
I'd definitely put it in the same playlist as U My Everything.
It’s not that it’s a bad song as much as she sounds uninspired and like she’s tired of rapping
The original is better…Shanghai is in my playlist, Phat Butt isn’t 🤷🏾♀️
It’s not a good one either lollll
8:15 i almost spilled my coffee zach you wrong for dat looooool
Zach im waiting for you to review Meg’s new album 🥹🩷
No lies told!
Her management team (nicki's old team) used her to get revenge, and it backfired big time, so now they're pandering, like how doja do every time that one song ends.
The fact that you mentioned actually talented women like Flo Milli yet Nicki called Ice the princess speaks volumes
How many times does flo have to tell y’all to stop mentioning her in these conversations 😭
Nick used Ice spice hype. Thats It. Everybody always knem Theresa no talento there
I mean she should want to get brought up. Why is this new girl getting more hype than you and coverage when Flo how been out wayyyy longer and has more talent
Don't put onika into this honey
Nicki also called JT the princess, any female rapper atp yall fake it too seriously
Let’s be honest.. Nicki was trying to call Ice Spice the Princess out of spite towards, Cardi, Megan, Doja, Latto etc.. but in return it back fired on her and the barbz and now Ice Spice and her team are harassing Nicki image and the barbz using them for what they can get left and they probably hoping for a beef with Nicki to push this album.. regardless of what it feels like every time a female rapper beef with Nicki or when the barbz engage with another female rapper with hate or love their career sky rocket.. with Ice Spice being from The Bronx it’s like Nicki was trying to take her under her wing to jab at Cardi but Cardi didn’t even like Ice Spice lol so it’s funny how Nicki run to work with female rappers that predominantly be trash that don’t like Cardi and it’s odd!
What does multi face has to do with anything?? I promise nicki ain't worried about any of them. She is on a successful WORLD TOUR right now outselling, outperforming, out shining this girlies 15+ years into her career.
Nicki worked with all the females you named. Working with Ice or any of these girls never benefited her. Cardi’s entire career is because of Nicki Minaj. Her whole small fan base exist out of spite of Nicki Minaj… all them will ALWAYS be in Nicki’s shadow… let’s not. And Nicki never called ice the princess of rap she was repeating the magazine article that called ice the peoples princess as well as the song being titled Princess Diana
@@lynnpear20Y’all are wrong and annoying!! Ice and Cardi are both industry plants! Also These so called artists WANTED A NICKI FEATURE BECAUSE IT BENIFITS THEM!!
@@joeltronNickiI swear these men in the comments are so delusional 😊
Backfired how? 😂 Ice Spice is the one struggling to chart.
Yasss you ain't never lied, who ordered the Latto Chai Ice Spice Grande, *crickets* lmao. Ice Spice time is up...
Your cheekbones are popping sis😮🎉
Not “cute girl in a Annie wig” lmaooo 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 Chilee
My first time seeing this channel, had to sub, I loved it 😊❤️🇮🇪
i heard that call ding-a-linging, and i got hyped for another "woo chile"
Zachary miss you and your commentary 🙏🏿
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Doja is up there with Nicki to me when it comes to talent ingenuity like you can hate them but their music speaks for them HARD
You could've did a third row of those pics, it's a similar throw back pic of Lil Kim with each look. Lol
Ice spice is what happens when you prop someone up too early 4 Grammy nominations 50 million Spotify listeners, two of the biggest artists supporting (Taylor and Nicki) her and y’all thoughts she was going to live up to all that pressure….. She was always going to fail cause she was never given the chance to grow
You spoke facts 👏🏾👏🏾
And for some reason people called Doja Cat a Nicki copycat? There's a difference between inspiration and straight up copying someone.
Atp doja did use the barbz
Doja is a Barb @@ganja_burn_9516
Let's keep it 💯. Nicki used Spice and Spice used Nicki. She knew that girl wasn't talented, but took it as an opportunity to attempt to replace Latto.
In my opinion, thats what Nicki, Spice, and the Barbs get. Stop spitefully supporting artists and just support your fave. Y'all are wasting your time, money & energy.
None of this affects Nicki or the Barbz Lmaoo the people flopping are Latto and Ice… y’all hate be having y’all foaming at the mouths so much that you don’t even think logically
@lynnpear20 girl, please. Y'all are the only ones on the internet foaming at the mouths the minute any rap girl Nicki doesn't like does anything. Your psycho Barb crew are on iTunes right now giving 1 🌟 and writing negative reviews on a rap girls' album y'all aren't supposed to care about.
Your fanbase wrote the manual on hateful, unhinged and deranged behavior.
You are soo right!
EXACTLY.
Tbh I agree. There was no reason for Ice to get two collaborations from a rap vet. Then the whole supporting people out of spite…makes the barbs look crazy because when the untalented person turns on Nicki, they are forced to turn on them. Then they’ll make fun of the person for being untalented, but it’s like well you blew smoke up their as-…blame yourselves 🥴
Girl I have never clicked on a vid of yours so early
It’s been so long since I’ve watched a video of yours and honey you look GOODT in this color
I LOVED this read lmaoooo you told it alllllllllll
Yay! May I have a Venti Ice Spice with two shots of Latto! 😂😂