+rainius byzantinus_ (RainTheRobloxian) total war rome 2 NOW is by far my favorite game in the series right after total war rome 1 (i played every total war expect empire and shogun 1 medieval 1)
Harry arthur But the greed is forever strengthening, as 1 blockbuster drops after the next before our wallets. I feel the big companies are just way too powerful now to give 2 bedsheets anymore to whatever's at stake .
+Harry arthur i just bought the game today, and i dont know if it has changed but it feels like it, the ai dont seem too stupid i am stressed out in every battle. Im also only playing on medium. Its fun and im enjoying it more than i enjoyed shogun. Just my 2 cents
It really sucks to see the wave of copyrights hit this video, especially since this was one of my all time favorite videos of Angry Joe's. And now the audio in the beginning is borked.
Maybe later in their history but this is supposed to be like 500 BCE where they were more likely to throw you to an animal or put you in a gladiator battle or make you a slave for the rest for your life Curicification came about 300 years later
antitroller101 make a good product at launch and people wouldn't resist glad i never bought this game those freaking glitchy faces scare the crap outa me
***** Well usually they add a bribe by giving extra stuff in the game that's only available if you pre-order. Things that should of course be available to everyone who buys the game, not just pre-orders. (One of Angry Joe's points here is that they've made this extra stuff so why is it not in the game for everyone?)
Reasons I watch Angry Joe 10% of the time - to see whether the game is good or worth getting 90% of the time - to see whether or not he explodes with anger.
To anyone wondering why the audio problems: for the longest time, the video sounded like normal, but because it had a few instances in which Joe uses music, this, along many other of his reviews had to remove it. I assume in this one in particular, something happened with the editing that made the audio spike when Joe talks louder.
I do not believe that this video needs an update. Joe says near the end of the review that the game will get better with patches but argues that what s important is its state at release as it shows how the consumer has been betrayed.
+andre robinson I just reinstalled it. Its still shit. Just less bugs. Crap AI. Crap pathfinding. Silly usage of siege vehicles without proper animations. Garbage collision. Christ the list goes on and Im not even gonna bother. Game was shit back in 2013 and its still shit now in late 2015. And based on my experience with Atilla its the same damn thing there. I PRAY... that Warhammer wont be like this.
+andre robinson Indeed. But shitty DLC practise and more aside. I just for once hope that warhammer will actually be a good game. Functional at release. Hah. Which is like... the most basic thing we should expact but yea. Crossing fingers.
+andre robinson Thats the thing, sir. Atilla is basically Rome 2 if it functioned from the start. Well..Not really but.. Sorta Thats really it. The AI is only a BIT improved which is no surprise since Julian Mckinlay helped work on it after we all screamed out for him to be fired due to creating the ungodly AI of Rome 2 on release and thereafter. But that aside. Atilla looks as bleak as Rome 2 does minus a few visual upgrades but other than having a few extra features and graphical improvements if you can even go that far to say that... Atilla doesn't offer anything else. Unit rosters are lacluster. DLC hording equivalent to Rome 2.Same unit animations. Same pretty much everything. hah. basically what Im trying to say. Atilla is NOT a standalone game. Atilla should have been a 20-30 dollar expac for Rome 2 because do NOT let the title fool you. Atilla...IS rome 2 with a paintjob and a few tweaks. Dont be fooled by dev interviews or fanboys. I played for hours and I know what I saw. Its ROme 2 carried into a new game. AI has a few improvements. Nothing mind blowing. Collision sucks still. pathfinding continues to amaze... negatively. The shit engine makes the game look bleak and as if it was in early access unlike prior games and then of course the actual unit movement... which pretty much adds up with what Joe said here. Units are floating all over the map. No guard mode STILL. Hah. Man...I could go on and on and thats because Atilla is Rome 2 with all its crap plus a few features we DEMANDED to be implemented in rome 2...but never got. Go figure. Man. If you want to play a good game this period. Buy rome 1 with mods or medieval total war with all its amazing mods. TRUST ME, man. Those two games and all the modding community have done for them...ARE...the better games. Stay away from this. Its doesn't matter what mods you install for this. because you will never be able to shake your feeling that something in Atilla and Rome 2 is just wrong. No graphical, AI or unit visual improvement mods can fix that. You can find MUCH better games, man. Unless you can buy Rome and atilla at a 75 % discount or MORE. Dont.... spend the money. Its just not worth it let alone NOT worth you wasting your life playing a game CA and Sega dedicated ZERO love and effort to. Pardon the wall of text but you simply cannot elaborate on this situation properly without explaining this in detail.
It happens when you are not close enough to the unit. Everything gets more detailed when you get close with the camera. The problem with the release was, that some units didn't get more detailed, but right now I played 900 hours Rome 2, mostly Multiplayer, on medium settings and it never happens.
@Gerry Buckets They had more funny one liners to them (Godzilla as well) but none of them have the same personal drive to them that the review to Rome 2 has.
Joe Lowso It was bit more easier to play, not that im complaining on rome 2 or the one just both Rome attila it's hard, challenging, an awesome, but at times managing your nation could be a bore at times, an confusing when you play the game for the first time. It's no shogun i can tell you that. The assassination, sabotage cut-scenes, removed which is a waste, cause i like spies an assassins scenes were if it's a fail or not. But i must admit Attila is a bit more better, in a sense.
@@murutattack I'm guessing it's because the music he used early in the video got copyrighted so he had to edit it out. Either that or UA-cam is just an asshole.
"patches have made it a lot better!" thats not the fuckin point! NO developer should ever have the balls to release a game in the state this was released in, EVER. Patches are necessary, but when a company says to themselves "oh just release it. we'll use patches and eventually it'll be in a decent working condition" needs to take a long hard fucking look at their game practices. People need to stop forgiving this lazy practice because it only tells the developers and publishers they can get away with it. It's your money, so you must demand the best for it. If a game is released in a state where the last game is both more fun and works better (as Shogun 2 did) then there is a bloody problem. The game has been patched, but it still needs a hell of a lot more before it can match its predecessors. Like Shogun 2 says, the Rome 2 launch was a shameful display.
Mountain Jew They sold preorders. We paid money for a game that wasn't out, and when we received it we got to look at stuff like endless loading times and braindead AI. Also, Rome II's trailers suggested features that simply didn't exist when the game came out. Finally, some of us (me included) felt Rome I was actually a better game than Rome II. That's pretty disappointing, and none of that was the bugs some people encountered at game release (I only encountered a few crash bugs personally).
The idea is that they will sell more DLCs day one then if they release it months down the road. So after they make the game they make a DLC before release so you have the option to get the new DLC right out of the gate.
To be honest, RTW2 today is very very good (After some minor patch that was like 2-3 weeks ago). They finally updated politics, encyclopedia, etc, so now I must say it is the game I thought I buyed 2 years ago.
Cool! I've played enough of M2TW and i was going to S2 next cause R2 sucks, but now that it's fixed i might actually buy R2 first! (saving the best for last!)
Joe doesn't understand, the Romans used ancient technology to be able to sail through land, distort their faces to scare enemies, and disappear pieces of land from the map :)
What I find hilarious is that my friend got into the total war franchise through Rome 2 and when I showed him shogun 2, which in my opinion had the best of both features from the new and old games, he thought Rome 2 was better.
Rome 2 Total War was the first Total War game he was introduced to, so he didn't know the older games were better. His logic is that the newest game in any game series is the best. Along with that he would take graphics over gameplay, so he won't play the original games because they don't look good to him.
Mate if you're still having launch problems then maybe you need a better computer. The game doesn't run properly on the minimum specs. It used to skip and crash for me until I upgraded and it's been running smoothly since November.
francisco oyola at least cars have history involvement while aliens is weird and dumb and pawnshop can show some history so aliens history channel is ran by aliens
it still have awkward unit collision in battles, navy is still pretty much useless because armies on water are stronger than naval vesels WTF and 2 nd most annoying thing is those settlements without walls, cmon remove that shit without walls!!!
2023: can confirm that it's the "same old shit, we'll patch it later" but with the caveat of CA threatening to not patch their broken games unless you buy overpriced dlc.
However, i still feel there's something fundamental missing in the game...probably just me. I mean, yes, many technical issues have been resolved since release, but nevertheless to me it's only a mediocre game. I don't feel the fun i get when playing shogun 2 or napoleon/empire (shrug)
Gareth Lam because the engines broken. Its a shit engine with shitty unit behavior / unit objects. Did u ever feel like archer fire is like a fucking missle? it homes in on its target midair when a unit moves so it can still hit the unit. yeeee no object collision whatsoever. Shitty engine shitty game pretty simple to me.
RtH- Screw both of you, I'm being my own game Rome: Son you do that and you'll screw up worse than both me and your mother Simcity: Listen to your father RtH- Screw you I'm making my own game with drugs and hookers. *makes worst game ever made*
I was so hyped for this game, I just wanted Rome with better graphics, diplomacy and so extra features. I guess I'll stick to Rome. I just hope Monster Hunter 4 for the west doesn't disappoint, what's with all these crappy game releases? ;_;
5:08 is just an old battlefield tactic Alexander the Great used in the battle of Kimchi to disorganize and confuse the armies of Xerxes the Bald; It also helped screen his companion cavalry charge into Xerxes camp which allowed Alexander to personally deliver the Coup de grâce. Mind you it does work defensively, when I charged my cavalry into their targets it disorganized my attack and soon formed a blob around them. You'd have to have great micro-managing skills to get out of it.
Roger Rojas Alexander the Great was Macedonian, he had almost nothing to do with the Romans, but he would have much rather have been Greek. That can be seen with the Hellenistic Period in which Alexander spread Greek culture throughout his conquered Empire. Macedonia at the time was kind of like the black sheep little sibling next to Greece.
Roger Rojas 4chan, you should try it. You can learn alot from there and it's free; it will save your thousands of dollars from being ripped of by colleges. PS I am not liable for your mindbreak if you can not handle the knowledge you get from there.
Something tells me that's not what the AI had in mind, but if it was, the AI was too stupid to know that not only was it not working, but that it's being utterly destroyed doing that!
Wow. People told me it was terrible. I wanted to believe the ones that said these people were exaggerating how bad it is. But damn, it fucking sucks. Rome: Total Disappointment.
I gotta say, when I posted that original comment I did not own the game. I based it off what i've seen of reviews and gameplay footage and from a few hours of gameplay with some friends. It was on sale this past weekend so I decided to see how things are 9 patches later and at least give it a fair chance. After about 20 hours of gameplay I can honestly say it still fucking sucks. The AI is mentally challenged, combat is just broken and boring, so much of the good features of past TW games like the hilarious cinematics from Shogun II have been cut.. It just feels lazy and overall disappointing.
I see the latest patch broke campaigns. It causes the whole game to lock up when one of your generals gets a triumph. You can't click anywhere and have to quit the game. Well done CA.
khanwarrior99 Prologue is worse... The AI just run around the whole fucking map... ugh... Had to restart the whole thing over just because they kept sieging the cities left and right... I conquer one, they attack another... It totally sucks now..
Personally I've always believed that a Total War game based on Chinese military history would be more intriguing than revising the same theatres over and over...
Knowing CA they will likely dlc whore the crap out of it. $20 to play as Islamic Factions $10 to go to the America's Oh and Mongol invasion and blood and gore dlc $$$$$$
Well, they have said they are not interested in making a total war 3 anything. Who knows how true that is though. I'm sure they will play that card as soon as they need the money.
1.Medieval 2 (same engine as rome 1 but way better in my opinion due to the better graphics and improved features) 2.Shogun 2 (simply a masterpiece) 3.Empire/napoleon (buggy...yes, kinda still fun....yes)
Félix Lagüe-Lalonde Don't Worry, warhammer has enough beasts to make the game engine realize the unit collision is not possible when one side eats the other :P
hahaha, i was expecting some to try climbing it or something atleast :P it would be cool to have the giant grab some of the guys climbing it and throw them off, maybe in 6 years.
This was THE Total War game I wanted. The one that I wanted right, with all the cool things from Shogun 2 and a functioning coop campaign so my friend and I can focus on amphibious assaults. Even with the emperor edition, still looks and runs worse than Shogun 2. Yeah there are mods but, I want to play with my friend, and 6 months in, it still didn't work right. And preorder DLC for Greek states... And finally, Creative Assembly, no coop in the historical battles? Battle of Carthage introducing amphibious assaults with a friend...that's all I really wanted new from Shogun 2. Shogun 2 with a Roman skin. Was that too much to ask for? ;(
"20 war elephants kill 2000 men, I don't think thats historically accurate" This is better than any comedy Ive ever watched, you seriously need your own TV shown, this is absolute humiliation.
welcome to the dark ages of gaming joe. edit: im pretty sure that ranged units would be capable of tearing those war elephants apart provided they can keep their distance from them elephants may have thick skin but they can only take so many arrows before they fall even less so if the arrows are on fire.
Annnnd they have done the exact same thing with total warhammer, they stripped the chaos warriors out of the game and are selling it as day 1 dlc or a pre order bonus.... sigh.
+deity 93 But we have a counter to their shannanigans! Step 1: Preorder on Steam hours before launch. Step 2: Wait for game to release Step 3: Wait for trusted reviewers to look at the game. Step 4: If trusted reviewers declare game is good, start playing it for up to 1 hour 59 minutes to experience it yourself. You currently have the DLC for free. Step 5: If reviewers were wrong or declare the game garbage, or the review embargo prevents trusted reviewers from posting within the 14 days, get a full refund and go play Medieval II total war instead. Don't look back. Don't get it on sale. Don't let patch notes tempt you back in. Game no good. Save you $60+ and buy a better product. Step 5.5: If the game is actually good...you just got the day 1 DLC for free without sacrificing your consumer right to a proper product review before buying.
Montenegrin militia it's really not though the siege is still buggy. tbh I had a 3% chance of winning a battle defeated about 3 or 4 units out of 12 that they sent in and then when I beat them they just sat there and got stuck on a broken siege equipment and the ladder company just marched into the broken siege tower until the time ran out while the rest of there massive army just sat there
The first Rome Total War is in my opinion, the best thus far- I've never seen any major bugs, all the units are incredibly balanced, the AI is challenging and actually works.
The first Rome had battlefield AI at the level of Rome 2 where they'll sit outside of a sieged city doing nothing and dance around an open field battlefield. It actually was horrible right down to unit balance as well where war elephants were OP to the extreme seen in this video.
metgredko I agree, in Rome 1, siege AI sometimes just walk near your wall while my towers are just shooting them with archers and once they are they, the units with the siege engines takes so long to get there that the units in the front would be down to half. Battlefield AI isn't that great either, the enemy would run at my units and run away... again and again until one of them bumps into my unit.
Marcus Maxentius Indeed. It took an expansion and heavy duty mods to present any sort of challenge and even then house rules were necessary to keep it enjoyable.
No it isn't. Attila not only looks worse than Rome 2, but is horrendously optimized. Attila only brings 2 major improvements, the siege sizes, and the family trees. In my opinion, neither of those improvements outweigh the negatives.
This was the game where Creative Assembly has truly started to slide into being an awful dev team, where the Total War franchise started to become worse and worse.
I'd like to have a diplomacy in Total war in style Crusader Kings II or Europa Universalis. Pretty complex diplomacy to force player to think. Don't only build armies and fight - I'd just like to have an option to take provinces in diplomatic way. I know, if I want to have this complex and 'thinking' diplomacy, I should go to play CKII or EUIV... yeah yeah, but I think all the Total War would be more interesting.
Totally agree. diplomacy is a thousands times more realistic in those games and way more versatile. So much more you can do, and it adds more longevity to campaigns themselves as its less simple to simply declare wars and obliterate everything in your path. The coalition system in EUIV has to be one of my favorite mechanisms of diplomacy, more so than the bullshit civil war event in Rome 2.
LoGhandi The Imperial Diehard Actually, no. The ai got better in the platinum 1.9 mod, the vanilla was plain retarded. I remember the Greek factions having the general in a wedge formation always and the ai would simply charge hoplites or heavy infantry and die. Flanking, fake charges and advanced ai stuff was added courtesy of Darth ai mod. Also, speaking of ai, remember how in the early version of the game the ai would put its army in column formation when attacking at bridges without any attempt to soften the enemy via archery and skirmishers.
Gotta say, the community over at the Total War Community, made a mod for the original Rome: Total War called Roma Surrectum and even Roma Surrectum II... that is the real Rome II if you ask me.
19:19 - They call it the Sharknado - a deadly whirlpool of blades and shields, mercilessly tearing apart any formation foolish enough to approach it's reach. Occasionately, a Roman centurion will bob to the surface, disciplined face set in a fierce frown as he tries desperately to escape this maelstrom of coordinated death.
my favorite is turtle formation (when you have shield in front, and shield above) you can bang your head over it, but you'll NEVER breach it without siege weapons, such as war elephants war elephants considered as siege weapons back in the past, that why they are SO DAMN GOOD against INFANTRY, war elephants can bee good even in our time
The whole world would be great. Although Empire had the biggest map, I couldn't help but notice they left out Large portions of South America as well as Oceania that had been colonized in the 18th century
I really wanna see if they'll go back to asia and do the three kingdom in china! They'll have plenty of materials! Or i would also like to see if they gonna work with warhammer rights they got from THQ...
It's sad that the audio quality for this video (most noticeably in the beginning) has been butchered. Another sympton of UA-cam's shitty music usage terms.
Why is that? Not trying to be rude, I do genuinely want to know what's different in his new stuff that makes it of lower quality since I only sporadically check into him...
Almost 9 and a half years after this game released, and to this day I cannot forget how disasterous this release was. Total War: Rome II has since received many updates, patches and DLCs and is now a great game, but that doesn't cover for the extremely poor release (and this is coming from a guy with almost 6900 registered hours plating this game on Steam (and many more that were not registered)... This review brought me back to 2013, and was absolutely spot-on for what happened at launch, though some of these things are still true: the politics system for instance, has been updated and a whole new system that lets you run your faction's politics great depths has been implemented, but without any tutorial to explain to the players how to operate it. It took me a full campaign walkthrough (including taking all the regions in the map) to finally wrap my head around it. Thank you for this awesome review and the flashback to 2013 AngryJoe, it was a blast!
ben reeves Okay thanks. I bought Attila for $15 during November Steam Sale. I like it but I need a better PC LOL! The politics court is a bit confusing though.
"Oh but guys, after all the patches all the problems have been fixed." Right, after all these patches the Siege AI stays idle outside your gatehouse if you attack them while they're throwing torches.. 10/10 would develop again.
I really hope angry joe tries the game after it has been completely patched. I wouldn't ask for a full review of it but a new verdict would be pretty nice. As of right now, the game is quite good and deserves a 7/10 or 7.5/10 imo.
jesuistahmid Well thats YOUR opinion. And next time you should mention this. But ive played shogun 2, the original rome 1 and fall of the samurai and ive been having the most fun with rome 2. Rome 1 just has too shitty graphics for me to enjoy it. Shogun 2 and fall of the samurai were pretty good but not much variety between the clans at all. Except from some dlc clans and some dlc units. Rome 2 has great unit variety between cultures and i like it's gameplay mechanics (except from the Civil war). SO i like it much more than any other TW that ive played.
Nektarios Skalidakis did you play rome 1 when it first came out? back then the graphics/interface was truly ahead of its time. r2 hasn't improved shit. and did i advocate for Sg2/fots? no! it had one great idea (avatar customization), but had poor execution (~100-150 games to level 10 and hours of grinding to get a desired level of unit). historically, the lack of unit "variety" in sg2 was not too far off i guess? however, Rome 2's user interface is absolutely garbage. half the unit cards look the same, and most of the barbarian factions have similar units. half of them lack historical accuracy. Have you noticed how the multiplayer lobbies are empty all the time? yea because it's garbage! shogun2 MP didn't get this stale till after a full year! and people still kept coming back.
jesuistahmid Nope i did not play rome 1 when it came out but so what? If a game had great graphics for the time that it came out you cant just keep saying the graphics are okay or that the graphics are decent. The graphics of rome 1 are plain shitty in comparison with games that are played in our days. Now for the units you cant even tell me that there is no variety.. Yes there are similar or even the same units across factions of the same culture but thats completely normal. Most of the celts or most of the greeks for example used the same "unit" for the core of their armies IRL too.. And again if you compare the variety of the units in R2 with Shogun which is considered a great game you can see that r2 has similar units across factions of the same culture. There are 10 cultures too. In shogun there are the same damn units for everyone. Its like playing the same clan from a different stating point. And multiplayer is very fun its just takes you a bit to start knowing what youre doing. Also the lobbies are empty because there are people like you hating just because the game was shitty at the start but when they fixed the game and made it actually playable and enjoable you guys were too butthurt to accept this and just tried to continue on hating because of some small stuff that remained until now... AND THIS IS STILL GOING... I mean what the hell.... they are giving us Free patches and updates, giving us Free-lcs and you guys continue on hating and saying "nah we dont want that shit" Well guess why? Cause you need a fucking reason to continue hating the game.. Rome 2 is very fun and completely playable now.. so stop trying to find a reason to hate something.. instead find a reason to like it. And no dont be like "we are the old fans we do it for the total war series" cause you simply dont give a fuck about it...
It matters because it changes perception. 10 years later the graphics of yesterday seems crap! obviously! but when it came out, rome 1 was fucking revolutionary! (mind you it had its problems with gamespy and such) So when rome 2 comes out, and the developers are hyping it up with statements such as "biggest budget for a TW installment", one would expect something to test face of gaming today if not atleast $80 worth of a game, not DLC's and 100000 patches. Shogun 2's multiplayer idea was the avatar system, which was the ability to customise the crap out of your units. the fact that every one had access to for example katana samurai, no-dachis, etc. was because it is historically accurate! That is why it worked. However, I was not happy with Shogun 2 multiplayer because it takes about 50+ hours of grinding to get anywhere. If you just started the game, went on matchmade and ran into me, you would probably uninstall at the conclusion of the battle. Rome 2, while it took away the avatar system (thank god), did not offer much in return. I was pretty active in the shogun 2 multiplayer community and most of the veterans of the game recommended against buying it. However, I did, and it was in January after all the patches. Needless to say, it was wildly disappointing. The user interface was absolutely garbage and wouldn't recognize a lot of commands. Instead of improving upon the shogun 2 interface, they regressed. With regard to expecting quality? Well it has a steep price tag and one would expect a complete product at the time of release. Not a half assed game that requires a billion patches. If you get your customers to pay a lot of a product, they are entitled to quality, which means free servicing (patches). You think I'm hating? Dude you don't even know how much time I have put into this series. I have played nearly every game since shogun 1. That is why I and a vast majority of the multiplayer community are so disappointed with rome 2, because CA has done nothing than to provide disappointment after disappointment since 2004. It may seem that I don't give a fuck about it, but I did beta test fall of the samurai. I think I give a fuck or two more than you.
i had a glitch in hannibal at the gates where hannibal's 1 remaining elephant took out my entire army. It was just a giant blob surrounding an elephant and getting slowly killed off.
Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 are way better when it applies to management and politics system. If you actually could lead your armies on the battlefield these two games would most likely beat Total War in every aspect.
Joe, Thank you for this review. I have been thinking about getting Rome II for a while, but I think I'll just get Rome I. I was super hyped, especially because we used some of the videos advertising it (for example, the video where the guy was talking about the conturbernia) in my Latin class' military unit. But seeing your review has helped me make a better decision.
Well,the game is patched now,and it's better. Though it's not as good as Shogun 2...But if you like good graphics very much,I think you should get this one.
Rome wasn't patched in a day.
+rainius byzantinus_ (RainTheRobloxian) total war rome 2 NOW is by far my favorite game in the series right after total war rome 1 (i played every total war expect empire and shogun 1 medieval 1)
max venezian I would agree with you. I'd say Rome II is a lot better than what it was at launch, but I wouldnt consider it the *best*
rainius byzantinus_ (RainTheRobloxian) definitely not the best, but in my opinion its right after total war Rome 1 and barbarian invasion
max venezian I would replace Barbarian Invasion with Medieval II, but yes, I agree.
+max venezian YOU GOT A PLAY MEDIEVAL 1
The fans are wavering!
Our fans leave the field of battle! This is a shameful display!
Harry arthur damît arthur
Harry arthur But the greed is forever strengthening, as 1 blockbuster drops after the next before our wallets. I feel the big companies are just way too powerful now to give 2 bedsheets anymore to whatever's at stake .
Harry arthur *Shamefur Dishpray
+Harry arthur i just bought the game today, and i dont know if it has changed but it feels like it, the ai dont seem too stupid i am stressed out in every battle. Im also only playing on medium. Its fun and im enjoying it more than i enjoyed shogun. Just my 2 cents
+Harry arthur TO THE HILLS!!
It really sucks to see the wave of copyrights hit this video, especially since this was one of my all time favorite videos of Angry Joe's. And now the audio in the beginning is borked.
not only the beginning, and most of the music is cut out
Homie its 8 years old you're late
@@leightonrud66 The copyright issue is a recent problem actually. The video originally didn't sound so low, then fuck you in the ears.
There was a song in the glitch montage that’s lived in my head for years and I don’t know if I’ll ever hear it again because of the copyright claims.
@@epicrotfl7017 It's the sandworm music from the old Dune movie
The Romans' response would be to crucify the developers
or throw them to the lions
Maybe later in their history but this is supposed to be like 500 BCE where they were more likely to throw you to an animal or put you in a gladiator battle or make you a slave for the rest for your life
Curicification came about 300 years later
Joe doesn't shit on the developers he shits on corporate fuckheads and those who make the big decisions.
why devs? crucify the managers
I dont think its developers fault. Its more higher ups I guess.
Another good reason not to pre-order games...
+redcardinalist yup and what do they against this ...... take away core factions unless you Pre-order
+Dave Vd crafty bastards, they ain't dumb they know how to overcome customer made resistance
antitroller101 make a good product at launch and people wouldn't resist glad i never bought this game those freaking glitchy faces scare the crap outa me
+Dave Vd thats why u say fuck u and pirate that shit with everything in it....if that piece of shit is worth pirating in the first place
*****
Well usually they add a bribe by giving extra stuff in the game that's only available if you pre-order. Things that should of course be available to everyone who buys the game, not just pre-orders. (One of Angry Joe's points here is that they've made this extra stuff so why is it not in the game for everyone?)
The AI in this game is so advanced that it's become self-aware and does not want to play the game.
ahahahaha that explains it.
It's resisting! Kill it before it founds Skynet!
Jeezus.. I have noodles coming out of my nose because of this.
That sounds like what Joe said in his FO76 review
@@marbzirc376 😂😂😂😂
Reasons I watch Angry Joe
10% of the time - to see whether the game is good or worth getting
90% of the time - to see whether or not he explodes with anger.
For me, its the other way around.
Date Masamune Agreed
Date Masamune so true
80% where he doesnt
Date Masamune you know it when he starts with "you FUCKED IT UP!"
To anyone wondering why the audio problems: for the longest time, the video sounded like normal, but because it had a few instances in which Joe uses music, this, along many other of his reviews had to remove it. I assume in this one in particular, something happened with the editing that made the audio spike when Joe talks louder.
2:56 for improved audio
*Me* -- (randomly skips forward to 1:11)
*AngryJoe* -- Now go.! Get out of here.! Leave.!
*Me* -- Oh...o-ok :(
AlecSK27 lol
AlecSK27 Joe gets angry when you skip his videos.
thesupersonicstig xD
NO NO COME BACK COMEE BAAAACK :(
I love this comment section. I wish this comment section still alive
I do not believe that this video needs an update. Joe says near the end of the review that the game will get better with patches but argues that what s important is its state at release as it shows how the consumer has been betrayed.
+andre robinson I just reinstalled it. Its still shit. Just less bugs. Crap AI. Crap pathfinding. Silly usage of siege vehicles without proper animations. Garbage collision. Christ the list goes on and Im not even gonna bother. Game was shit back in 2013 and its still shit now in late 2015. And based on my experience with Atilla its the same damn thing there. I PRAY... that Warhammer wont be like this.
Pat Bateman the chaos dlc thing is no confidence boost though.
+andre robinson Indeed. But shitty DLC practise and more aside. I just for once hope that warhammer will actually be a good game. Functional at release. Hah. Which is like... the most basic thing we should expact but yea.
Crossing fingers.
Pat Bateman Atilla was bad too?
+andre robinson Thats the thing, sir.
Atilla is basically Rome 2 if it functioned from the start. Well..Not really but.. Sorta Thats really it. The AI is only a BIT improved which is no surprise since Julian Mckinlay helped work on it after we all screamed out for him to be fired due to creating the ungodly AI of Rome 2 on release and thereafter. But that aside. Atilla looks as bleak as Rome 2 does minus a few visual upgrades but other than having a few extra features and graphical improvements if you can even go that far to say that... Atilla doesn't offer anything else. Unit rosters are lacluster. DLC hording equivalent to Rome 2.Same unit animations. Same pretty much everything.
hah. basically what Im trying to say. Atilla is NOT a standalone game. Atilla should have been a 20-30 dollar expac for Rome 2 because do NOT let the title fool you.
Atilla...IS rome 2 with a paintjob and a few tweaks. Dont be fooled by dev interviews or fanboys. I played for hours and I know what I saw.
Its ROme 2 carried into a new game. AI has a few improvements. Nothing mind blowing. Collision sucks still. pathfinding continues to amaze... negatively. The shit engine makes the game look bleak and as if it was in early access unlike prior games and then of course the actual unit movement... which pretty much adds up with what Joe said here. Units are floating all over the map. No guard mode STILL.
Hah. Man...I could go on and on and thats because Atilla is Rome 2 with all its crap plus a few features we DEMANDED to be implemented in rome 2...but never got. Go figure.
Man. If you want to play a good game this period. Buy rome 1 with mods or medieval total war with all its amazing mods. TRUST ME, man. Those two games and all the modding community have done for them...ARE...the better games. Stay away from this. Its doesn't matter what mods you install for this. because you will never be able to shake your feeling that something in Atilla and Rome 2 is just wrong. No graphical, AI or unit visual improvement mods can fix that.
You can find MUCH better games, man. Unless you can buy Rome and atilla at a 75 % discount or MORE. Dont.... spend the money. Its just not worth it let alone NOT worth you wasting your life playing a game CA and Sega dedicated ZERO love and effort to.
Pardon the wall of text but you simply cannot elaborate on this situation properly without explaining this in detail.
Haha that face bug still exists in 2016...
"You look ugly", just a bit....That's what you prove right now.
"Whats Wrong with your faceeeeeee"
It happens when you are not close enough to the unit. Everything gets more detailed when you get close with the camera. The problem with the release was, that some units didn't get more detailed, but right now I played 900 hours Rome 2, mostly Multiplayer, on medium settings and it never happens.
#myfaceistired
Tactical Project *2017
Nearly 5 years later and this is still the greatest AngryJoe review of all time.
With shit audio in the beginning ehh he has better videos with much better longer skitz too.
Lol dude nah.. Watch those Gerry Buckets mentioned here.. My fav is mindjack :P
@@fragglefknrock7568 The shit audio in the beginning wasn't there before, probably a copyright problem.
@Gerry Buckets They had more funny one liners to them (Godzilla as well) but none of them have the same personal drive to them that the review to Rome 2 has.
Man did you even watch the Ride to hell review
"Because fuck you give me money", best quote said by EA
2:25 The ship is trying to escape from this game
shouldn't you be in the kitchen?
Kevin Moore Shouldn't you think of a better insult?
Charlie Kurlzz shouldn't you stop being a white knight?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
cool
Medieval 2. Total war is my favourite. I still play it now.
Totally agree with you, thr game felt right. And the combat was amazing.
Joe Lowso It was bit more easier to play, not that im complaining on rome 2 or the one just both Rome attila it's hard, challenging, an awesome, but at times managing your nation could be a bore at times, an confusing when you play the game for the first time.
It's no shogun i can tell you that. The assassination, sabotage cut-scenes, removed which is a waste, cause i like spies an assassins scenes were if it's a fail or not.
But i must admit Attila is a bit more better, in a sense.
Greg Harris I love medieval 2 too but I like Rome Total war the same!
Greg Harris It's my favorite too
Greg Harris Me too. The game is so much fun
"Et tu, Joe?" -Otherus Joeus Caesar
that means "even you, joe?", its another version of what caesar said when brutus killed him with a knife.
James thanks for that, it only ruined the joke a lil bit.
@@james9242 we all know you fuck. must be fun at parties.
@@efesezer8206 Your insult "must be fun at parties" has been used so many times to the point where I'll take it as polite criticism.
@@efesezer8206 That was really uncalled for. I didn't see anything wrong with his comment.
And... the AI programmer got fired.
+SlayerXtR Horror Gaming Then he got brought back for Attilla.
Because of course he did... CA...
Pat Bateman lol
+SlayerXtR Horror Gaming or promoted , who knoews WITH CAPITAN CUCU BANANAS IN CHARGE ANITING CAN BE DONE BY CA AND SEGA
Haha
SlayerXtR Horror Gaming i mean there was Stupid AI and then was Empire AI / THEN IT WAS EMPIRE AI AND ROME 2 TOTAL WAR
The boat is sailing on land. xD That's hilarious! What fucking mess.
ikr... I was like umm that's not suppose to happen
+BlackVegeta What is this, kids next door?
+Cody Hines ha
The men are wavering. :u
+Cody Hines... what? what kids?...And im not a kid
when Joe says "YOU DONE FUCKED IT UP!" you know that he's going to roast the game
2019. Is his audio broken?
broken only on early video
@@murutattack Awesome, thought my speakers were bust
@@murutattack I'm guessing it's because the music he used early in the video got copyrighted so he had to edit it out. Either that or UA-cam is just an asshole.
@@sarnem5330 ok good I thought my phone was glitching out
Shame. Good I thought it was on my end.
You better do an Attilia Review
ATTILA IS SHIT just as rome 2 units behave like in stronghold blob total war
Ramsay Snow
whaaaaaaat is way much better compared to rome 2
gert Van den Berghe much beter than prepatch rome 2 but nothing rely diferent than rome 2 empire edition i think,i dont know i liked med 2 more
Ramsay Snow
i guess that it will become even better witch patches
It was okay. But I fucking HATE the day one DLC bullshit.
"patches have made it a lot better!" thats not the fuckin point! NO developer should ever have the balls to release a game in the state this was released in, EVER. Patches are necessary, but when a company says to themselves "oh just release it. we'll use patches and eventually it'll be in a decent working condition" needs to take a long hard fucking look at their game practices.
People need to stop forgiving this lazy practice because it only tells the developers and publishers they can get away with it. It's your money, so you must demand the best for it. If a game is released in a state where the last game is both more fun and works better (as Shogun 2 did) then there is a bloody problem.
The game has been patched, but it still needs a hell of a lot more before it can match its predecessors. Like Shogun 2 says, the Rome 2 launch was a shameful display.
I dunno why everyone is so butthurt
I like Rome 2 better than Shogun 2 right now, that's because the game is patched now, and the big bugs are gone
Mountain Jew They sold preorders. We paid money for a game that wasn't out, and when we received it we got to look at stuff like endless loading times and braindead AI. Also, Rome II's trailers suggested features that simply didn't exist when the game came out. Finally, some of us (me included) felt Rome I was actually a better game than Rome II. That's pretty disappointing, and none of that was the bugs some people encountered at game release (I only encountered a few crash bugs personally).
Mountain Jew
The Biggest bug they refuse to fix: the AI
Merland5 I think that the AI is better in Rome 2 than in Shogun 2. But that's no biggy, the AI has always been pretty dumb in TW games
Paul Ketcham that's true
I can't wait to see His review for Total War: Atilla.
If I were a betting man I'd bet that Total War: Atilla will get the angryjoe bad ass seal of approval.
Still don't trust them enough to pre-order. And the dlc bullshit makes me not want to buy it at all if it keeps happening.
They have to have day one DLC. they make more money that way.
greenghost2008 Yea that's bullshit tho. Why should I pay for each individual faction when? They just want more money and I refuse to give it to them.
The idea is that they will sell more DLCs day one then if they release it months down the road. So after they make the game they make a DLC before release so you have the option to get the new DLC right out of the gate.
anyone knows the name of that epic classical music at 3:05 ?
Thanks~
You seemed...angry.
+Zac Barnes best troll.
Yeah because CA fuck up the total war rome because of this he a fan of total war
Tim Dinh wooosh
Aztec wooosh
@@mikeehrmantraut1899 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
The 40% went to the developers severe cocaine addiction.
Why are people stil +1'ing this? It's not even clever.
I've watched this like 4 times. The game is much better now, but Joe's reaction to the release is still funny.
To be honest, RTW2 today is very very good (After some minor patch that was like 2-3 weeks ago). They finally updated politics, encyclopedia, etc, so now I must say it is the game I thought I buyed 2 years ago.
Cool! I've played enough of M2TW and i was going to S2 next cause R2 sucks, but now that it's fixed i might actually buy R2 first! (saving the best for last!)
Maybe they updated it. But its still not ok the state they released it in.
Wow! A game is good 4 years after release... Amazing! They're still total morons for releasing this crap...
I love this comment so much :D
10 years later and this is still one of my favorite angry reviews, especially when I get into topics relating to Rome and the Mediterranean.
Almost a quarter of a century later, this remains the greatest angry review ever. Even better than the Destiny 3 review.
Joe doesn't understand, the Romans used ancient technology to be able to sail through land, distort their faces to scare enemies, and disappear pieces of land from the map :)
You serious?!
Both of you asshats don't get the joke. Huzzah!
What is the joke? Yeah, you got me.
***** The joke is that the games bugs are bugs but I just said that it was ancient techonology.
bakester17 Sorry mate, I didn't realize until later, I wrote the reply at 4 in the morning.
I paid for the full game.
and got this.
BETA you say?
I PAID FOR BETA?!
Ehm, Rome 2 is still a bad game, but you realize that you didn't get THIS right? You realize that this is from a year ago right?
What?
Max Fuller Just mod it. There a lot of great ones out there that makes the game a lot better.
But the game "Updates" and makes all of these obsolete: my game crashes unless I uninstall all of my mods, which I've had for hundreds of turns
What I find hilarious is that my friend got into the total war franchise through Rome 2 and when I showed him shogun 2, which in my opinion had the best of both features from the new and old games, he thought Rome 2 was better.
Also I can't actually play Rome 2 anymore because it won't launch.
HE THINKS ROME 2 IS BETTER!!!!! WHY!!?!?!?!?!
Yea.
Rome 2 Total War was the first Total War game he was introduced to, so he didn't know the older games were better. His logic is that the newest game in any game series is the best. Along with that he would take graphics over gameplay, so he won't play the original games because they don't look good to him.
Mate if you're still having launch problems then maybe you need a better computer. The game doesn't run properly on the minimum specs. It used to skip and crash for me until I upgraded and it's been running smoothly since November.
10 years later, and now CA is falling apart after Pharaoh's flop. What a disaster.
This is angry joe's best review ever IMO. Just so interesting and funny to watch.
haha i take it you haven't seen his ride to hell review yet?
come on the civ 5 Review is hilarious TOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!!!!!
I like his Destiny one best. Although the recent Ghostbusters game review is fucking hilarious LOL
My favorites are this, aliens colonial Marines, and destiny reviews the most
+Bryant Guidry mine would be this, ghosts, ride to hell, no man's sky and evolve
History channel used total war clips in the past? Why? It has nothing to do with pawnshops, cars or aliens
+petargrad i miss those times
francisco oyola at least cars have history involvement while aliens is weird and dumb and pawnshop can show some history so aliens history channel is ran by aliens
I love it when a game is shit. I get to see your hilarious reviews. brilliant. 😅
cool haircut fam
oh yeah ☺
Only this game isnt shit any more
it still have awkward unit collision in battles, navy is still pretty much useless because armies on water are stronger than naval vesels WTF and 2 nd most annoying thing is those settlements without walls, cmon remove that shit without walls!!!
Fallout 76, Mass effect andromeda, Fallout 4 early, No mans sky...
2023: can confirm that it's the "same old shit, we'll patch it later" but with the caveat of CA threatening to not patch their broken games unless you buy overpriced dlc.
A shameful display!
Big Bad Wolf A shameful DISHPRAY!
Gareth Lam is the game better now?
SnoWy Warbinger Yes, Emperor edition has almost none of any of the issues discussed in this video. They really overhauled the game since the review.
However, i still feel there's something fundamental missing in the game...probably just me. I mean, yes, many technical issues have been resolved since release, but nevertheless to me it's only a mediocre game. I don't feel the fun i get when playing shogun 2 or napoleon/empire (shrug)
Gareth Lam because the engines broken.
Its a shit engine with shitty unit behavior / unit objects.
Did u ever feel like archer fire is like a fucking missle? it homes in on its target midair when a unit moves so it can still hit the unit. yeeee no object collision whatsoever. Shitty engine shitty game pretty simple to me.
Sega and Creative Assembly's new motto - "At least we aren't EA"
Simcity and Rome II had a child, Ride to Hell: Redemption.
RtH- Screw both of you, I'm being my own game
Rome: Son you do that and you'll screw up worse than both me and your mother
Simcity: Listen to your father
RtH- Screw you I'm making my own game with drugs and hookers. *makes worst game ever made*
This game is a slap in the face to TW fans across the globe Rome has fallen... ;_;
With not a sign of resurrection I'm sight Dx.
I was so hyped for this game, I just wanted Rome with better graphics, diplomacy and so extra features. I guess I'll stick to Rome. I just hope Monster Hunter 4 for the west doesn't disappoint, what's with all these crappy game releases? ;_;
Gandalf The White Rome total war two *SHALL NOT PASS!*
Joseph Stalin But your Soviet Union passed....passed away!
AoC Productions "Send this fowl beast back into the abyss!"
the medieval 2 spy cinematics were the best.
Shogun 2 ninja fails were the best
Wish they did more of them honestly. It's one of my favorite thing in the game aside from general's speeches
5:08 is just an old battlefield tactic Alexander the Great used in the battle of Kimchi to disorganize and confuse the armies of Xerxes the Bald; It also helped screen his companion cavalry charge into Xerxes camp which allowed Alexander to personally deliver the Coup de grâce.
Mind you it does work defensively, when I charged my cavalry into their targets it disorganized my attack and soon formed a blob around them. You'd have to have great micro-managing skills to get out of it.
Where did you learn so much about Roman war tactics? I have been looking for books but I can't find any.
Roger Rojas Alexander the Great was Macedonian, he had almost nothing to do with the Romans, but he would have much rather have been Greek. That can be seen with the Hellenistic Period in which Alexander spread Greek culture throughout his conquered Empire. Macedonia at the time was kind of like the black sheep little sibling next to Greece.
Roger Rojas 4chan, you should try it. You can learn alot from there and it's free; it will save your thousands of dollars from being ripped of by colleges.
PS I am not liable for your mindbreak if you can not handle the knowledge you get from there.
Something tells me that's not what the AI had in mind, but if it was, the AI was too stupid to know that not only was it not working, but that it's being utterly destroyed doing that!
Miles Eaton Okay. But where can I learn about the war tactics used in that period?
Wow. People told me it was terrible. I wanted to believe the ones that said these people were exaggerating how bad it is. But damn, it fucking sucks. Rome: Total Disappointment.
You mean *Total Disappointment: Rome 2
I gotta say, when I posted that original comment I did not own the game. I based it off what i've seen of reviews and gameplay footage and from a few hours of gameplay with some friends. It was on sale this past weekend so I decided to see how things are 9 patches later and at least give it a fair chance. After about 20 hours of gameplay I can honestly say it still fucking sucks. The AI is mentally challenged, combat is just broken and boring, so much of the good features of past TW games like the hilarious cinematics from Shogun II have been cut.. It just feels lazy and overall disappointing.
I see the latest patch broke campaigns. It causes the whole game to lock up when one of your generals gets a triumph. You can't click anywhere and have to quit the game. Well done CA.
MY game sucks now because of that patch!!!!
khanwarrior99 Prologue is worse... The AI just run around the whole fucking map... ugh... Had to restart the whole thing over just because they kept sieging the cities left and right... I conquer one, they attack another... It totally sucks now..
i just run into it yesterday, had to keep my finger on the button to erase the cinematic b4 it came and locked it up. GJ CA
So true man, i was looking for a forum about that and drifted here
This was probably one of Joe's best reviews back in his golden age.
I just discovered him and his new videos are damn good. Especially the ghost of Tsushima and last of us 2 reviews are awesome
that sound quality is from the 50's not 7 years ago jees lol
@@vinnieg6161 if that was his golden age, then I'm loving his silver age more.
Lol.
@@Killgore-ip2yq factual statement
@@vinnieg6161 The start of the vid has shit audio bc of YT's dumb-ass copyright system.
Personally I've always believed that a Total War game based on Chinese military history would be more intriguing than revising the same theatres over and over...
I agree
Warring Kingdoms and such with more features to the Hero and Siege units,
yeah that would be awesome....+Mongolia
Total War: Three Kingdoms. KOEI AND CREATIVE ASSEMBLY PLS
Merland5 now that is an idea
Let us pray for them not to burn their last playable card.. Medieval 3: Total War.
Knowing CA they will likely dlc whore the crap out of it.
$20 to play as Islamic Factions
$10 to go to the America's
Oh and Mongol invasion and blood and gore dlc $$$$$$
Well, they have said they are not interested in making a total war 3 anything. Who knows how true that is though. I'm sure they will play that card as soon as they need the money.
12:11 Wow! The Romans were way ahead of their time with paratroopers! (Watching from 2016!!!)
For anyone revisiting this video, the Audio returns to normal at 2:56
Thank God. Thought I was going insane.
@@genradiata1723 lmaooooooooo
Thanks
Shogun 2 is still the undisputed champion.
***** no, Rome 1 is the better .
luc dom
Damn straight!
1.Medieval 2 (same engine as rome 1 but way better in my opinion due to the better graphics and improved features)
2.Shogun 2 (simply a masterpiece)
3.Empire/napoleon (buggy...yes, kinda still fun....yes)
rome 1 is legendary... it's like Michael Jordan of strategy game... there's not gonna be a next TW as good
nah t'all Napoleon is the greatest Total War game.
Player(Persian): This is blasphemy. This is madness.
Sega(Sparta): No. THIS IS DLC!!!(Kicks him to the curb)
lol :D
I wish he'd do the newer total wars
Jonathan DeNoyer to late
Jonathan DeNoyer He probably gave up on the Total War franchise. I know I have.
James Roper Rome total war (the first one) is still the best
gavlan i agree
gavlan You're right. However, any hope of there being a good new game to the series is gone.
2021 I like to rewatch Joe’s old reviews videos 😂 they still get me
I'm surprised noone ever did a Top-10 list of his best videogame-reviews on UA-cam yet.
And it's already 2022.
Haha likewise. It's a damn shame that ScrewTube fucked him over with all the bogus copyright stuff. The original video is soooo much better.
I'm worried for Total War Warhammer
Félix Lagüe-Lalonde Don't Worry, warhammer has enough beasts to make the game engine realize the unit collision is not possible when one side eats the other :P
+emirhan ekşioğlu you should watch how the dwarfs right the giant, its stupid.
I did, I don't see a problem with it. Sure the hit its feet until it dies is stupid, but how do you fight a giant :P
hahaha, i was expecting some to try climbing it or something atleast :P it would be cool to have the giant grab some of the guys climbing it and throw them off, maybe in 6 years.
I wouldn't trust CA to pull off something like multiple models climbing without clipping through :P as you said. Maybe in 6 years.
This was THE Total War game I wanted. The one that I wanted right, with all the cool things from Shogun 2 and a functioning coop campaign so my friend and I can focus on amphibious assaults. Even with the emperor edition, still looks and runs worse than Shogun 2.
Yeah there are mods but, I want to play with my friend, and 6 months in, it still didn't work right. And preorder DLC for Greek states...
And finally, Creative Assembly, no coop in the historical battles? Battle of Carthage introducing amphibious assaults with a friend...that's all I really wanted new from Shogun 2. Shogun 2 with a Roman skin. Was that too much to ask for? ;(
don't worry, the next total buggy war is coming out in 2015 lets hope that game runs better... as if XD
Might get it after a year. Maybe.
Play the other ones....
The next game is going to be Rome 2 with a new skin, much like FotS was just shogun 2 with guns. Don't waste your time.
Ye but shogun 2 with gun was worth while and good
0:00 Joelius Caesar
It all happened in Ancient Joeman times...
Killed by Lucius Joeius Brutus
Shame what happened to the Empire, the poor Joeans were overwhelmed by the Joebarians.
Jewbear1884
Yet civilization lived on in the Jozantine Empire in Joestantinople.
Andy B sorry but you spelled joelius wrong
2:29 When your ship decides it is a independent ship that needs no sea.
"20 war elephants kill 2000 men, I don't think thats historically accurate" This is better than any comedy Ive ever watched, you seriously need your own TV shown, this is absolute humiliation.
welcome to the dark ages of gaming joe.
edit: im pretty sure that ranged units would be capable of tearing those war elephants apart provided they can keep their distance from them elephants may have thick skin but they can only take so many arrows before they fall even less so if the arrows are on fire.
Annnnd they have done the exact same thing with total warhammer, they stripped the chaos warriors out of the game and are selling it as day 1 dlc or a pre order bonus.... sigh.
+deity 93
you profile pic is how the company feels when they do that.
+YSoSrs? and thats why i simply dont buy it. thats my vote.
+deity 93 But we have a counter to their shannanigans!
Step 1: Preorder on Steam hours before launch.
Step 2: Wait for game to release
Step 3: Wait for trusted reviewers to look at the game.
Step 4: If trusted reviewers declare game is good, start playing it for up to 1 hour 59 minutes to experience it yourself. You currently have the DLC for free.
Step 5: If reviewers were wrong or declare the game garbage, or the review embargo prevents trusted reviewers from posting within the 14 days, get a full refund and go play Medieval II total war instead. Don't look back. Don't get it on sale. Don't let patch notes tempt you back in. Game no good. Save you $60+ and buy a better product.
Step 5.5: If the game is actually good...you just got the day 1 DLC for free without sacrificing your consumer right to a proper product review before buying.
+deity 93 and thanx to gamers being a bunch o fucking retards, CA will still make a huge profit on pre orders
+Barley Sixseventwo no search UA-cam for footage and reviews, check for glitches then make your mind up weather to buy it
We need more Total war reviews
why does this video have 2,203 dislikes ? He's telling the truth !!
corgany die hard fans maybe.......
Because most of dislikes came recently, game is good now. Vid was done looong time ago, when Rome was in chaos.
Montenegrin militia it's really not though the siege is still buggy. tbh I had a 3% chance of winning a battle defeated about 3 or 4 units out of 12 that they sent in and then when I beat them they just sat there and got stuck on a broken siege equipment and the ladder company just marched into the broken siege tower until the time ran out while the rest of there massive army just sat there
Maybe because he is screaming like a bitch.
@@Ismail-cm8xs it is poetic licence lol
The first Rome Total War is in my opinion, the best thus far- I've never seen any major bugs, all the units are incredibly balanced, the AI is challenging and actually works.
true dat and with darthmod fucking perfect or near
The first Rome had battlefield AI at the level of Rome 2 where they'll sit outside of a sieged city doing nothing and dance around an open field battlefield. It actually was horrible right down to unit balance as well where war elephants were OP to the extreme seen in this video.
metgredko I agree, in Rome 1, siege AI sometimes just walk near your wall while my towers are just shooting them with archers and once they are they, the units with the siege engines takes so long to get there that the units in the front would be down to half. Battlefield AI isn't that great either, the enemy would run at my units and run away... again and again until one of them bumps into my unit.
That is because they had a bad leader. Never let a unit split unless it has a good general.
Marcus Maxentius Indeed. It took an expansion and heavy duty mods to present any sort of challenge and even then house rules were necessary to keep it enjoyable.
It got fixed. Thank god.... Took two years though. But modded Rome II is now better than Attila.
attila with mods is better though
Because of the game engine, yes. But until an overhaul mod comes out that matches Divide et Impera...
I agree
No it isn't. Attila not only looks worse than Rome 2, but is horrendously optimized. Attila only brings 2 major improvements, the siege sizes, and the family trees. In my opinion, neither of those improvements outweigh the negatives.
Could you point out which mods help it? I'm just re-playing this game after I quit 1 month in because of these issues. Thanks in advance.
This was the game where Creative Assembly has truly started to slide into being an awful dev team, where the Total War franchise started to become worse and worse.
I'd like to have a diplomacy in Total war in style Crusader Kings II or Europa Universalis. Pretty complex diplomacy to force player to think. Don't only build armies and fight - I'd just like to have an option to take provinces in diplomatic way. I know, if I want to have this complex and 'thinking' diplomacy, I should go to play CKII or EUIV... yeah yeah, but I think all the Total War would be more interesting.
I don't know if you can do it on Rome 2, but in Medieval 2 you can.
ovojohn Yep, Medieval II had nicely done diplomacy.
Totally agree. diplomacy is a thousands times more realistic in those games and way more versatile. So much more you can do, and it adds more longevity to campaigns themselves as its less simple to simply declare wars and obliterate everything in your path. The coalition system in EUIV has to be one of my favorite mechanisms of diplomacy, more so than the bullshit civil war event in Rome 2.
TheSympathize Well, the series is called TOTAL War for a reason.
wilhelmrk But its a STRATEGY game. Things need reasons to happen no just obliterating everything.
A ship in the middle of the desert?!! A bold move, General.
"Thats a bold decision cotton, lets see how it plays out"
*****
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
The Original Rome Total War had pretty good AI for its time.
+Loga Nator it only had 1 problem, they couldnt navigate a fucking city.
+ctpOMG At least that is something that's actually difficult.
For a 2004 game, absolutely.
LoGhandi The Imperial Diehard Actually, no. The ai got better in the platinum 1.9 mod, the vanilla was plain retarded. I remember the Greek factions having the general in a wedge formation always and the ai would simply charge hoplites or heavy infantry and die. Flanking, fake charges and advanced ai stuff was added courtesy of Darth ai mod. Also, speaking of ai, remember how in the early version of the game the ai would put its army in column formation when attacking at bridges without any attempt to soften the enemy via archery and skirmishers.
joe looks so young, not weighed down by the horrors of modern gaming
too real damn, I was reminiscing about a simpler time@@WiegrafFolles
He was 15 when this was filmed. In some cultures that is still considered young.
@@WiegrafFollesage is a real killer. A long career of doing the same shit day in day out for roughly 15 years will do that. Behold our futures
@@WiegrafFolles for some reason I read that in Patrick Bateman's voice
@@tt128556wrong, he was almost 30 when this was filmed
Just buy Rome Total War 1 if you're new to Total War. Youll enjoy it more
Still TWR1 is cheaper
Venelin Dechkov
what? "perfect now"?
You must have very bad taste
Was this AI programmer drunk everyday he came in for work ? That seems like the only reasonable explanation.
Gotta say, the community over at the Total War Community, made a mod for the original Rome: Total War called Roma Surrectum and even Roma Surrectum II... that is the real Rome II if you ask me.
3 years later: install Divide Et Impera 1.2 mod for Rome Total War II and it becomes a 9/10 legendary seal of approval!
19:19 - They call it the Sharknado - a deadly whirlpool of blades and shields, mercilessly tearing apart any formation foolish enough to approach it's reach.
Occasionately, a Roman centurion will bob to the surface, disciplined face set in a fierce frown as he tries desperately to escape this maelstrom of coordinated death.
my favorite is turtle formation (when you have shield in front, and shield above)
you can bang your head over it, but you'll NEVER breach it without siege weapons, such as war elephants
war elephants considered as siege weapons back in the past, that why they are SO DAMN GOOD against INFANTRY, war elephants can bee good even in our time
Maybe an Empire 2 Total War next?
But a good one? :)
Please, I really love the 18th century!
So do I, mabey they could add africa :D
An Empire II with the whole world this time.
Or a Medieval III with more castles and looting.
The whole world would be great. Although Empire had the biggest map, I couldn't help but notice they left out Large portions of South America as well as Oceania that had been colonized in the 18th century
I really wanna see if they'll go back to asia and do the three kingdom in china! They'll have plenty of materials! Or i would also like to see if they gonna work with warhammer rights they got from THQ...
id prefr medieval 3 but i see where ur coming from
The intro is gold .. i love it lol
Shame we hardly hear it anymore
Et tu, Joe?
THE FKIN LAND BOAT WITH THE MUSIC LOL
It's sad that the audio quality for this video (most noticeably in the beginning) has been butchered. Another sympton of UA-cam's shitty music usage terms.
Spot on.
It felt like a kick to the nuts after the first 10 hours of playing Rome II.
I'm going back to Shogun II and Medieval...
That is what Angry Joe gets for giving 9/10 for Shogun 2. Screwed everyone. What a payback from CA, eh? ;)
These reviews were from Joe's finer days.
i agree
Why is that? Not trying to be rude, I do genuinely want to know what's different in his new stuff that makes it of lower quality since I only sporadically check into him...
+ruben van den berg big releases are slowing down.
ruben van den berg lol he did no man sky some days ago so shut the fuck up
When he gave a damn
The A.I. reminds me the to legionaires of the Asterix tales .
Almost 9 and a half years after this game released, and to this day I cannot forget how disasterous this release was. Total War: Rome II has since received many updates, patches and DLCs and is now a great game, but that doesn't cover for the extremely poor release (and this is coming from a guy with almost 6900 registered hours plating this game on Steam (and many more that were not registered)... This review brought me back to 2013, and was absolutely spot-on for what happened at launch, though some of these things are still true: the politics system for instance, has been updated and a whole new system that lets you run your faction's politics great depths has been implemented, but without any tutorial to explain to the players how to operate it. It took me a full campaign walkthrough (including taking all the regions in the map) to finally wrap my head around it.
Thank you for this awesome review and the flashback to 2013 AngryJoe, it was a blast!
nah it is not a great game, still shilling
@@misterpinkandyellow74 It is, unlike Mid 2.
@@coloradoing9172 At least try with your bait lmao
@@hamhamham22 Take off the nostalgia goggles. Nobody even plays that game without total overhaul mods.
"heavy metal moshpits"
*plays Gangdum style*
ah 2013
Still the best Rome 2 review of 2013.
As much as I love the Total War franchise, this game doesn't exist for me, and it will NEVER will...
10 years ago, Joe yelled CA into a permanently different position on the alignment chart.
Did he review Attila:Total War yet? I can't find it.
he didn't
Alexander Smith
Hope he does one soon!
+CNX625 he won't.
+CNX625 he get sponsor by sega which stop which stopped review total war game unless a good one
ben reeves Okay thanks. I bought Attila for $15 during November Steam Sale. I like it but I need a better PC LOL! The politics court is a bit confusing though.
"Oh but guys, after all the patches all the problems have been fixed."
Right, after all these patches the Siege AI stays idle outside your gatehouse if you attack them while they're throwing torches..
10/10 would develop again.
Steam says i have played Rome II for 126 hours, but if we remove End Turn times, it will be 30-40 hours less xD
It will forever be a tragedy that to this day, the game has never and will never look as good as the “pre-alpha” footage. So pathetic.
I got so angry i uninstalled it.Twice
me too bro, i cant believe, is a game half done
You should install Divide Et Impera, fixed most of the bugs for me
I really hope angry joe tries the game after it has been completely patched. I wouldn't ask for a full review of it but a new verdict would be pretty nice. As of right now, the game is quite good and deserves a 7/10 or 7.5/10 imo.
still pretty shit. i'm a veteran of this series SP and MP since 2001
jesuistahmid Well thats YOUR opinion. And next time you should mention this. But ive played shogun 2, the original rome 1 and fall of the samurai and ive been having the most fun with rome 2. Rome 1 just has too shitty graphics for me to enjoy it. Shogun 2 and fall of the samurai were pretty good but not much variety between the clans at all. Except from some dlc clans and some dlc units. Rome 2 has great unit variety between cultures and i like it's gameplay mechanics (except from the Civil war). SO i like it much more than any other TW that ive played.
Nektarios Skalidakis did you play rome 1 when it first came out? back then the graphics/interface was truly ahead of its time. r2 hasn't improved shit. and did i advocate for Sg2/fots? no! it had one great idea (avatar customization), but had poor execution (~100-150 games to level 10 and hours of grinding to get a desired level of unit). historically, the lack of unit "variety" in sg2 was not too far off i guess? however, Rome 2's user interface is absolutely garbage. half the unit cards look the same, and most of the barbarian factions have similar units. half of them lack historical accuracy. Have you noticed how the multiplayer lobbies are empty all the time? yea because it's garbage! shogun2 MP didn't get this stale till after a full year! and people still kept coming back.
jesuistahmid Nope i did not play rome 1 when it came out but so what? If a game had great graphics for the time that it came out you cant just keep saying the graphics are okay or that the graphics are decent. The graphics of rome 1 are plain shitty in comparison with games that are played in our days. Now for the units you cant even tell me that there is no variety.. Yes there are similar or even the same units across factions of the same culture but thats completely normal. Most of the celts or most of the greeks for example used the same "unit" for the core of their armies IRL too.. And again if you compare the variety of the units in R2 with Shogun which is considered a great game you can see that r2 has similar units across factions of the same culture. There are 10 cultures too. In shogun there are the same damn units for everyone. Its like playing the same clan from a different stating point. And multiplayer is very fun its just takes you a bit to start knowing what youre doing. Also the lobbies are empty because there are people like you hating just because the game was shitty at the start but when they fixed the game and made it actually playable and enjoable you guys were too butthurt to accept this and just tried to continue on hating because of some small stuff that remained until now... AND THIS IS STILL GOING... I mean what the hell.... they are giving us Free patches and updates, giving us Free-lcs and you guys continue on hating and saying "nah we dont want that shit" Well guess why? Cause you need a fucking reason to continue hating the game.. Rome 2 is very fun and completely playable now.. so stop trying to find a reason to hate something.. instead find a reason to like it. And no dont be like "we are the old fans we do it for the total war series" cause you simply dont give a fuck about it...
It matters because it changes perception. 10 years later the graphics of yesterday seems crap! obviously! but when it came out, rome 1 was fucking revolutionary! (mind you it had its problems with gamespy and such)
So when rome 2 comes out, and the developers are hyping it up with statements such as "biggest budget for a TW installment", one would expect something to test face of gaming today if not atleast $80 worth of a game, not DLC's and 100000 patches.
Shogun 2's multiplayer idea was the avatar system, which was the ability to customise the crap out of your units. the fact that every one had access to for example katana samurai, no-dachis, etc. was because it is historically accurate! That is why it worked. However, I was not happy with Shogun 2 multiplayer because it takes about 50+ hours of grinding to get anywhere. If you just started the game, went on matchmade and ran into me, you would probably uninstall at the conclusion of the battle.
Rome 2, while it took away the avatar system (thank god), did not offer much in return. I was pretty active in the shogun 2 multiplayer community and most of the veterans of the game recommended against buying it. However, I did, and it was in January after all the patches. Needless to say, it was wildly disappointing. The user interface was absolutely garbage and wouldn't recognize a lot of commands. Instead of improving upon the shogun 2 interface, they regressed.
With regard to expecting quality? Well it has a steep price tag and one would expect a complete product at the time of release. Not a half assed game that requires a billion patches. If you get your customers to pay a lot of a product, they are entitled to quality, which means free servicing (patches).
You think I'm hating? Dude you don't even know how much time I have put into this series. I have played nearly every game since shogun 1. That is why I and a vast majority of the multiplayer community are so disappointed with rome 2, because CA has done nothing than to provide disappointment after disappointment since 2004. It may seem that I don't give a fuck about it, but I did beta test fall of the samurai. I think I give a fuck or two more than you.
How can the game company be sued by their testers? I thought it would be the other way around?
Old fashioned angry joe. Angry and violent. I miss this angry joe
Yeah I’m not really a fan of the three way discussion style.
"SHIPS COMING ASHOR...Oh wait they are on shore and coming...this...way. Well at least it isn't raining cats and d...oh god damn it!". *Woof*
LOL
best response ever!
0:04 Other Joe: Et tu Joe?
Angry Joe: YOU DONE FUCK IT UP!!!!
i had a glitch in hannibal at the gates where hannibal's 1 remaining elephant took out my entire army. It was just a giant blob surrounding an elephant and getting slowly killed off.
Did the audio in the beginning break for anyone else? I didn’t think that would be breaking ten years later
old video, maybe data corruption.
Copyright.
Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis 4 are way better when it applies to management and politics system. If you actually could lead your armies on the battlefield these two games would most likely beat Total War in every aspect.
Joe,
Thank you for this review. I have been thinking about getting Rome II for a while, but I think I'll just get Rome I. I was super hyped, especially because we used some of the videos advertising it (for example, the video where the guy was talking about the conturbernia) in my Latin class' military unit. But seeing your review has helped me make a better decision.
Well,the game is patched now,and it's better.
Though it's not as good as Shogun 2...But if you like good graphics very much,I think you should get this one.
Rome 1 is dirt cheap and by far my favorite of the series. You wont regret it
dont ever listen to a review and make your judgement on just that how many movies have gotten a bad review and you happen to like that review
This is why I never buy games on release
"Et tu, joe?"
YA DONE FUCKED IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!