I never would have thought to do this, and probably never will, but it's really neat to see it done and done successfully! Thanks for the video to satisfy my curiosity :D
Hi Tom, I looked at many videos now and whether you use std or IMS, etc, you do still get spay. Won't it be better just to get a better basket with more holes for that std portafilter with 2 holes. That way you know your portafilter will sit correctly without any issues as deswcribed in most reviews. You will have an un-pressurized filter, which will basically work the same as most portafilters in restaurants with spouts and you won't get any spray either.
Hi Tom ! You’re simply amazing. Thank you for all your tips, your channel is my complete reference for espresso. I like the contain and I like how you explain things. I also really like your energy. Thank you very much ! Best wishes from Canada Regards, Fred
Tom, Should I take the measurements with the new basket (not arrived yet) or I can go with the original one that seems like to be a bit deeper ? Also, can I make double espresso with verybarista basket ? That’s not clear in my head if 15g beans is for a single shot or for a double. Thank you so much !!
I think it's the only way to get a bottomless portafilter for ECP3420 with a proper snug fit. All 3rd party ones sold everywhere have very small ears and smaller in diameter than the original one. Thanks for the video.
I've been wanting to do this so I can use a deeper filter. My Tengyi (with a pump) is simple and quick to use but the coffee is weak compared to my slow pumpless Imusa machine.
Why not simply replace the basket and black insert with n aftermarket basket? You wouldn't be able to see the final pour, but it would do the same depressurising job. Or buy a cheap replacement bottomless portafilter for around $20 - how much better is a cut-up Delonghi unit anyway? Thanks for all the great content: you've been one of my main resources on my espresso journey.
Hi! Thank you for your video! Simply fantastic!i have an question, can you suggest a brand for a Basket for 1 cap cafe? Thank you for your help and goahed with your great job! M
I have a question Tom x you: Do you know why in the 685 Dedica De Longhi from the spout of the milk mount comes out of water both while dispensing coffee and finished having made coffee; another thing I observe is that when I finish making coffee in the filter basket I find a lot of water (I'm talking about the original accessory supplied with the machine). If you helped me I would thank you. See you soon. Mark
How did you put the basket inside the portafilter with the spring on? The after market basket is wider on the side bottom part. Did you have to adjust the spring to have more room? And also, do you use de double dose basket for both single and double dose extraction? When I use my single dose basket I can't tamp the coffee enough because of the narrow part of the basket.
You just have to kind of work the basket in there. It will fit, if you finesse it. I always just do a 14 gram dose. The single cup baskets are too finicky for me.
Hi! Thank you so much for your helpful content! When tricking out the stock portafilter for the Dedica Arte, do you cut 25 mm from the top? The IMS basket you’d linked is on the way; I want to get hacking at the portafilter to be ready when it gets here.
Thank you very much for this video! Does the portafilter from amazon with the wood on it, which you linked in your describtion, fit as well in the machine as the original? Would you recommend to just buy this one to not have all the work?
Hey Emre, actually the best fit will always be the original. I have linked the best rated third party portafilter I could find, but I still feel like the original will perform best, since it has the most stringent quality control and manufacturing tolerance. Cheers! -Tom
I had the Anazon one with the wooden grip. Literally exploded after 2 weeks. Soft metal. Gave in. The pressure tore a hole into the side of the filter.
Hello coffee friends! Write me in the comments if you have done this modification yourself, and any extra tips that you might have. 👍🏻🙋♂️ 0:00 Intro 0:56 Tools needed 1:14 Measuring and cutting portafilter 3:46 Deburring portafilter 4:42 Testing the fit of the aftermarket unpressurized filter Reviews and pricing here: USA ➡️ Basket: amzn.to/3BGoDZ6 Portafilter: amzn.to/3p2iIuc Machine: amzn.to/3DLoXGH Germany ➡️ Basket: amzn.to/3lzFfMv Siebträger: amzn.to/30jNggp Maschine: amzn.to/2X80PhP
Hi Tom . I got a Gaggia Carezza Deluxe. Obviously it comes with Pressurized Portafilter. There is a La Pavoni non-presurized portafilter that is compatible with Saeco 53mm Aroma, Poema, Via Venezia , and other La Pavoni. I was wondering if I can use it to replace the stock pressurized Gaggia Carezza.
I have a Cyetus espresso machine and unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an third party bottomless portafilters available. So this video is exactly what I was looking for. I think the only thing I would do different is us my grinder with a cutting wheel and a vice.
Hey Robert, that sure would be easier. I had to use a grinder on the La Specialista machine. Check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/N-XFgHbBwHk/v-deo.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I've got a three day weekend ahead of me so this project is at the top of the list. I've had my espresso machine about a month now and this weekend I'm finally going to see how well my shots are pulling. Thanks for linking the other video. This is going to be fun.
Having worked with steel for twenty years I can tell you the cutting leaves a weak point at the joint between the end of the handle and the bowl, not quite enough metal there for me, apart from that it looks like a good modification, I wonder why it wasn`t done by De Longhi ?
What basket do you use? I know the customization of the original portafilter is to save money, but I find some baskets are still $20 as opposed to $30 w/ PF and Basket. Do you have any recommendations on an affordable basket for ECP3630 to pair with the customized OG Portafilter?
I've got a question, is it possible to not saw the bottom, but remove the inside and replace the basket with one hole with a good basket? Would that already be an improvement?
Hi, I have a question. Every one of my coffee is terribly sour. Every type of coffee is sour. I tried: - change the temperature - pressure and non-pressure sieve - different types of water - I decalcified the coffee machine with the original preparation and also with vinegar. I don't know where the mistake may be anymore. Can you please help me I'm already desperate I own a delonghi dedica ec685 m coffee machine and a delonghi grinder kg521 m.
Hey Michal, it seems like you have exhausted most variables. What dose do you use, and how long does it take to get twice the grams of liquid as grams of coffee powder you use?
The only parameter you haven't changed according to your description is grind size and dosage. Lower the dosage (coffee by weight) or decrease grind size (make finer grinds).
Hey there - make sure your coffee is freshly grinded, from the store or at home if you have an acceptable grinder (that you can set the grinding size, very important) For a single shot of espresso - 7 to 10 grams of fine grinded coffee ( you have to play with the grind size or get a good coffee from your corner coffee shop grinded for espresso, keep in mind every grinder is different so buy small amounts of grinded coffee until your find what works best for your machine. Number 3 worked well for me from different places, besides Starbucks where I had to get the finest they have, aka turkish grind ) - temper well by giving it a good press, try to make it as level as possible, play with how much you press until you find something that works with the following tips - 20 to 30 seconds of extraction time, from when you hit the start button and the machine starts pumping - 1 oz or abt 30 ml of liquid including the crema For a double shot - 14 to 19 grams of fine grinded coffee ( read above) - temper well by giving it a good press, try to make it as level as possible, play with how much you press until you find something that works with the following tips - 20 to 30 seconds of extraction time, from when you hit the start button and the machine starts pumping - 2 oz or about 60 ml of liquid including the crema For a lighter taste coffee with more caffeine try a blonde roast. For a stronger taste but a bit less caffeine, try a darker roasted coffee. Or you can get a medium roasted for an in between experience.
Здравствуй, Том. А если я не хочу портить оригинальный фильтр, а просто выкину плассмасу и вставлю корзину без давления? Будет ли разница в напитке, кроме эстетики и визуального оргазма?
Wish I could do this brilliant mod with my ancient pos Delonghi CE-20 that I pulled from a storage closet and thoroughly cleaned. Delonghi has no record of this model. Time to buy a newer model.
hey tom do you think this works also with the ECP3420s portafilter ? which saw do you think could be good? which material is the portafilter in that DeLonghi model? Thanks
Old video i understand if you never see this comment. I got one of the portafilters you recommended online. Pretty much the only 2 ear 51mm portafilter i could find. But the ears are to wide. Do you think i can just file it down with a metal file and match it to the old one?
So a non pressurized basket has to sit inside a bottomless portafilter? It can’t sit in the PF that comes with DeLonghi and then go through the two holes in it?
Let me clarify-lol I’m such a newbie! I’m seeing basket inserts that are non pressurized, do they have to sit inside a PF that is bottomless or can it be inserted into the PF that comes w delonghi?
Hi, for the Dedica, it will require a different portafilter, or you would have to remove the plastic insert (one screw) in order to accommodate the depth of the new basket. Which country are you in? I could maybe recommend a solution.
@@ninaninabonita OK, well then take a look at these. They come with baskets. 🇺🇸 amzn.to/3zA5k50 (Aluminum handle: comes with basket) 🇺🇸 amzn.to/3WoiHPu (Wooden handle: comes with basket) *(these are affiliate links that help fund videos like this, at no extra cost to you)
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago. These videos may help: How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html
nice idea..... the only real fear I have is that the portafilter may snap, since it is aluminum and there is now much less metal at the junction.......
Hey Milo, well I have been using mine for years, and it is stable. You could also consider buying one if you like. There are some suggestions in the description box.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i actually already own secondary bottomless pfs from Amazon . they are all about 10 mm. longer than the filter basket and obscure the view of the extraction
I did the same, but am now concerned about aluminum oxide ending up in the coffee from the acidic steam reacting with the exposed aluminum. Thoughts on that?
My old delonghi espresso machine had metallic basket holder, I believe it's similar aluminium alloy (no one would use pure aluminium anyway, it's too expensive and soft, and the alloy it should be safe enough). Now I'm considering to unscrew the plastic thingy from 685 holder, and just use it with the older bar14 classic basket. I already tried that, it fits the holder and it brews ok, but the thingy interferes with the flow. Sawing the holder seems like too much effort (for now). I might consider getting a bottomless one later on..
Wäre es nicht besser das Gehäuse weiter unten abzuschneiden bzw nur den boden zu entfernen? Dann hätte man einen besseren spritzschutz weil ein teil des Gehäuses noch unter dem filter sitzen würde
Mine doesn’t build enough pressure i think. After I switched to non pressurized, it has no crema. Does anyone have the same problem? P.s. i have a different machine (from china)
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago. These videos may help: How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html
Hi! Thanks for the video :) Is it really necessary to cut at the very same height than the basket? Because I only cut the bottom part with the 2 holes, and it looks ok to me. (Beside the fact that I will have to bend down a bit more to see my extraction?😂) Mine looks more like this one: ua-cam.com/users/shortsYQBhmTYNg1U?feature=share Any difference at the end?
Hi Hugo! Sure you can cut it that way, but I like the look of it cut just at the basket, for the aesthetic. But there is one advantage to your way of cutting it - it will spray less. Cheers!
They want to invent what is already invented, and then they say they are coffee lovers. For good coffee, the main one is the origin of the grain, the roasting, and the temperature of the water. If they do not have this, what they do to the filter holder will not serve anything. I drink coffee espresso at + 50 years. Coffee of all supplies, and the best that I drank to this day was a very small culture of the Huila -Angola plateau, and Santos - Brazil
Please buy a damn vise u can get them for like $30... I'm just DIY guy and I use mine almost every day. About 2 months ago upgraded to Pony 360° vise. Was $100
They sell bottomless portafilters specifically designed to fit delonghi espresso machines for like, 8 bucks. You don't need to butcher your portafilter like this 😂
The factory portafilter makes a better espresso. The Bottomless Portafilter is not for a Dedica. Espresso is bad. DeLonghi engineers would make the bottmless portafilter that it is better. And less material is in naked portafilter. I have a Dedica 685 and Mini Mazzer and never espresso is not as good as a factory portafilter.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner And I've all experimented. CONCLUSION: The best portafilter is factory. And espresso do not drink from glass cups. Only ceramic, thick.
With a bottomless portafilter you can really dial in your espresso and you'll only get good espresso with fresh beans and a dialed in grind size. The standard portafilter is double basket which creates crema even with old and stale beans. It all depends on what you actually want. I for myself have given up on this machine as I could not extract consistent shots day after day. Have bought a dual boiler with stable temperature during a shot. For me it was the right call. The advantage of the factory portafilter is that you don't have to nerd out and invest even more money and especially time in coffee/espresso making. It all depends on the use case.
@@DerZaubererFN Hey Paul, thanks for your comment. I find that the Dedica provides better temp stability than most little boiler machines. What dual boiler did you go with?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I did go with the Breville Dual Boiler. I've adjusted the pressure gauge manually to hit 9 bars and not above. Temp stability is awesome as it's measured and (re)heated directly at the group head. For grinders I got the breville smart grinder pro and the mignon specialita. Not sure which one to sell yet.
Yeah... I'll just go right ahead and buy $500 worth of construction equipment and 5 hours of labour to create something that I can buy on Amazon for $35.
I think I fell in love both with the explanational videos and the creator :) Thank you for the good content and nice feelings!
My gosh, this man is brilliant!! He must be a “PROFESSOR”??!! A free class--- who can complain about that? Thank you so much 👏👏👏
Wow, thanks Terri! What a nice compliment. I appreciate you watching, and commenting. Tom 🙋🏼♂️
Hey tom
I have a question what size is this portafilter and filter itself for dedica arte 885? And what size of basket i need to buy
Thx a lot
Awesome. 30+€ saved. Thanks for your content Tom! I highly appreciate it.
Your videos made my switch from a Vollautomat to the EC685 super easy :-)
Very nice, Sascha! I am happy to hear that. Have fun experimenting!
I never would have thought to do this, and probably never will, but it's really neat to see it done and done successfully! Thanks for the video to satisfy my curiosity :D
Hi Tom, I looked at many videos now and whether you use std or IMS, etc, you do still get spay. Won't it be better just to get a better basket with more holes for that std portafilter with 2 holes. That way you know your portafilter will sit correctly without any issues as deswcribed in most reviews. You will have an un-pressurized filter, which will basically work the same as most portafilters in restaurants with spouts and you won't get any spray either.
Sure, you can do that if you like. I just like to see and analyze the extraction. Cheers!
Hi Tom !
You’re simply amazing. Thank you for all your tips, your channel is my complete reference for espresso. I like the contain and I like how you explain things. I also really like your energy.
Thank you very much !
Best wishes from Canada
Regards,
Fred
Hey Fred - thanks so much for your kind words! Cheers, Tom
Tom,
Should I take the measurements with the new basket (not arrived yet) or I can go with the original one that seems like to be a bit deeper ?
Also, can I make double espresso with verybarista basket ? That’s not clear in my head if 15g beans is for a single shot or for a double.
Thank you so much !!
I think it's the only way to get a bottomless portafilter for ECP3420 with a proper snug fit. All 3rd party ones sold everywhere have very small ears and smaller in diameter than the original one. Thanks for the video.
Actually, the Normcore, Neouza and Capfei fit well. But this is the cheapest way, and guaranteed to fit.
I've been wanting to do this so I can use a deeper filter. My Tengyi (with a pump) is simple and quick to use but the coffee is weak compared to my slow pumpless Imusa machine.
Why not simply replace the basket and black insert with n aftermarket basket? You wouldn't be able to see the final pour, but it would do the same depressurising job. Or buy a cheap replacement bottomless portafilter for around $20 - how much better is a cut-up Delonghi unit anyway?
Thanks for all the great content: you've been one of my main resources on my espresso journey.
Sure you can do that, but then you don't get the espresso p*rn, lol. Cheers!
Nice, well done! I will try it on my own!
Go for it!
Hi! Thank you for your video! Simply fantastic!i have an question, can you suggest a brand for a Basket for 1 cap cafe? Thank you for your help and goahed with your great job! M
Yes, you can get the Graef: geni.us/GraefSiebe
I have a question Tom x you: Do you know why in the 685 Dedica De Longhi from the spout of the milk mount comes out of water both while dispensing coffee and finished having made coffee; another thing I observe is that when I finish making coffee in the filter basket I find a lot of water (I'm talking about the original accessory supplied with the machine). If you helped me I would thank you. See you soon. Mark
How did you put the basket inside the portafilter with the spring on? The after market basket is wider on the side bottom part. Did you have to adjust the spring to have more room?
And also, do you use de double dose basket for both single and double dose extraction? When I use my single dose basket I can't tamp the coffee enough because of the narrow part of the basket.
You just have to kind of work the basket in there. It will fit, if you finesse it. I always just do a 14 gram dose. The single cup baskets are too finicky for me.
i tom, great vid, just how durable is this modified porta filter, like is the metal strong enough to sustain the pressure for a long period of usage?
Hi! Thank you so much for your helpful content! When tricking out the stock portafilter for the Dedica Arte, do you cut 25 mm from the top? The IMS basket you’d linked is on the way; I want to get hacking at the portafilter to be ready when it gets here.
@@Bigsevens77 The H26 basket is 26mm deep, so I’d suggest cutting it about 26-27 mm from the top. Cheers! Tom
Thank you very much for this video!
Does the portafilter from amazon with the wood on it, which you linked in your describtion, fit as well in the machine as the original? Would you recommend to just buy this one to not have all the work?
Hey Emre, actually the best fit will always be the original. I have linked the best rated third party portafilter I could find, but I still feel like the original will perform best, since it has the most stringent quality control and manufacturing tolerance. Cheers! -Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you Tom!
I had the Anazon one with the wooden grip. Literally exploded after 2 weeks. Soft metal. Gave in. The pressure tore a hole into the side of the filter.
@@jimx1696 Oh dang! 😳 I am sorry to hear that! Would you mind sharing the link? There are many on Amazon.
Could one just put a non pressurized basket in the stock portafilter and have a good result?
You can, you just have to remove the plastic part of the portafilter, first.
Hello coffee friends! Write me in the comments if you have done this modification yourself, and any extra tips that you might have. 👍🏻🙋♂️
0:00 Intro
0:56 Tools needed
1:14 Measuring and cutting portafilter
3:46 Deburring portafilter
4:42 Testing the fit of the aftermarket unpressurized filter
Reviews and pricing here:
USA ➡️ Basket: amzn.to/3BGoDZ6 Portafilter: amzn.to/3p2iIuc Machine: amzn.to/3DLoXGH
Germany ➡️ Basket: amzn.to/3lzFfMv Siebträger: amzn.to/30jNggp Maschine: amzn.to/2X80PhP
Hi Tom . I got a Gaggia Carezza Deluxe. Obviously it comes with Pressurized Portafilter. There is a La Pavoni non-presurized portafilter that is compatible with Saeco 53mm Aroma, Poema, Via Venezia , and other La Pavoni. I was wondering if I can use it to replace the stock pressurized Gaggia Carezza.
I have a Cyetus espresso machine and unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an third party bottomless portafilters available. So this video is exactly what I was looking for. I think the only thing I would do different is us my grinder with a cutting wheel and a vice.
Hey Robert, that sure would be easier. I had to use a grinder on the La Specialista machine. Check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/N-XFgHbBwHk/v-deo.html
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I've got a three day weekend ahead of me so this project is at the top of the list. I've had my espresso machine about a month now and this weekend I'm finally going to see how well my shots are pulling. Thanks for linking the other video. This is going to be fun.
@@hastingb Good luck! It is so much more fun to see the extraction. I think you're gonna like it. 👍
Having worked with steel for twenty years I can tell you the cutting leaves a weak point at the joint between the end of the handle and the bowl, not quite enough metal there for me, apart from that it looks like a good modification, I wonder why it wasn`t done by De Longhi ?
Good question. I am guessing that most people don't trick our their machines.
Which is pros respect have two cup equally split keeping the original one?
Thanks for sharing this.
You are genius 🎉
Haha, hope this helps! Cheers!
You’re a genius
Thanks for watching!
Will this hack work if I use pre ground coffee? Or do I have to get a good grinder to reap the benefits? Thank you Tom
Nope, you'll need a decent grinder then. Consider a DF54 for example.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you!
Loss compression when using bottomless. Can you advise solution to incease compression? Thank you
That shouldn't have any change on compression. Are you using a non-pressurized basket now? If so, you will need to grind finer.
@TomsCoffeeCorner how can know the diff between pressurized and non-pressurized baskets by look. Thanks for response.
Non pressurized have a bunch of holes in the bottom.@@Anh-Áo-Nâu
What basket do you use? I know the customization of the original portafilter is to save money, but I find some baskets are still $20 as opposed to $30 w/ PF and Basket. Do you have any recommendations on an affordable basket for ECP3630 to pair with the customized OG Portafilter?
I guess the cheapest one is the Neouza basket. But I think $25 is well spent for an IMS basket. Cheers!
I've got a question, is it possible to not saw the bottom, but remove the inside and replace the basket with one hole with a good basket? Would that already be an improvement?
Yes, you can do that. I just prefer to see the result.
Hi, I have a question.
Every one of my coffee is terribly sour. Every type of coffee is sour.
I tried:
- change the temperature
- pressure and non-pressure sieve
- different types of water
- I decalcified the coffee machine with the original preparation and also with vinegar.
I don't know where the mistake may be anymore.
Can you please help me I'm already desperate
I own a delonghi dedica ec685 m coffee machine and a delonghi grinder kg521 m.
Hey Michal, it seems like you have exhausted most variables. What dose do you use, and how long does it take to get twice the grams of liquid as grams of coffee powder you use?
The only parameter you haven't changed according to your description is grind size and dosage. Lower the dosage (coffee by weight) or decrease grind size (make finer grinds).
Hey there
- make sure your coffee is freshly grinded, from the store or at home if you have an acceptable grinder (that you can set the grinding size, very important)
For a single shot of espresso
- 7 to 10 grams of fine grinded coffee ( you have to play with the grind size or get a good coffee from your corner coffee shop grinded for espresso, keep in mind every grinder is different so buy small amounts of grinded coffee until your find what works best for your machine. Number 3 worked well for me from different places, besides Starbucks where I had to get the finest they have, aka turkish grind )
- temper well by giving it a good press, try to make it as level as possible, play with how much you press until you find something that works with the following tips
- 20 to 30 seconds of extraction time, from when you hit the start button and the machine starts pumping
- 1 oz or abt 30 ml of liquid including the crema
For a double shot
- 14 to 19 grams of fine grinded coffee ( read above)
- temper well by giving it a good press, try to make it as level as possible, play with how much you press until you find something that works with the following tips
- 20 to 30 seconds of extraction time, from when you hit the start button and the machine starts pumping
- 2 oz or about 60 ml of liquid including the crema
For a lighter taste coffee with more caffeine try a blonde roast. For a stronger taste but a bit less caffeine, try a darker roasted coffee. Or you can get a medium roasted for an in between experience.
@@King-Cobra31 Thanks for the breakdown, Cobra! 🙋🏼♂
@@King-Cobra31 wow thanks!
Здравствуй, Том. А если я не хочу портить оригинальный фильтр, а просто выкину плассмасу и вставлю корзину без давления? Будет ли разница в напитке, кроме эстетики и визуального оргазма?
Sure, that will work too. Cheers!
Good job 👏🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
What are good quality filters do you recommend.
IMS baskets are my favorite.
Wish I could do this brilliant mod with my ancient pos Delonghi CE-20 that I pulled from a storage closet and thoroughly cleaned. Delonghi has no record of this model. Time to buy a newer model.
Legendary stuff
hey tom do you think this works also with the ECP3420s portafilter ? which saw do you think could be good? which material is the portafilter in that DeLonghi model? Thanks
Should work exactly the same, yes. They are made of aluminum.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks i have found a 4euro saw on Amazon for aluminum. im gonna try this soon
About to do it with a Dremel. Wish me luck
THANK YOU SOO MUCH👌👌
Welcome 😊
Thanks for the tip, but could you please share your measurement a little bit more detail? How much left after cutting from the top of the portafilter?
I just measured it. It is exactly 1 inch, or 25mm.
Old video i understand if you never see this comment. I got one of the portafilters you recommended online. Pretty much the only 2 ear 51mm portafilter i could find. But the ears are to wide. Do you think i can just file it down with a metal file and match it to the old one?
No, I would suggest getting one that fits correctly, as this measurement of the tabs is very finicky. Cheers!
awesome help. thanks
awesome!
Glad you think so!
You mention in video that the aftermarket basket is 21 mm, but the link goes to a 26mm basket and there is currently no 21mm deep basket there.
It's a 51mm basket in diameter, but 26mm deep. Cheers!
Ah, my mistake, thanks for clearing that up for me. Novice coffee maker here, and only just coming to terms with all the lingo!@@TomsCoffeeCorner
Beauuuutilfull Yamaha amp in the back...
So a non pressurized basket has to sit inside a bottomless portafilter? It can’t sit in the PF that comes with DeLonghi and then go through the two holes in it?
Let me clarify-lol I’m such a newbie! I’m seeing basket inserts that are non pressurized, do they have to sit inside a PF that is bottomless or can it be inserted into the PF that comes w delonghi?
Hi, for the Dedica, it will require a different portafilter, or you would have to remove the plastic insert (one screw) in order to accommodate the depth of the new basket. Which country are you in? I could maybe recommend a solution.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner 🇺🇸
@@ninaninabonita OK, well then take a look at these. They come with baskets.
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3zA5k50 (Aluminum handle: comes with basket)
🇺🇸 amzn.to/3WoiHPu (Wooden handle: comes with basket)
*(these are affiliate links that help fund videos like this, at no extra cost to you)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner awesome, are these compatible w EC885M dedica arte ?
I'm now using a bottomless portafilter with my Dedica machine but the espresso shots are spraying everywhere - any idea what is causing this?
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html
How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html
What level best pls for Graef 800 grinder ?
Just gotta experiment. Grind fine enough, to get twice the yield of the dry input, in 25-30 seconds.
nice idea..... the only real fear I have is that the portafilter may snap, since it is aluminum and there is now much less metal at the junction.......
Hey Milo, well I have been using mine for years, and it is stable. You could also consider buying one if you like. There are some suggestions in the description box.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i actually already own secondary bottomless pfs from Amazon . they are all about 10 mm. longer than the filter basket and obscure the view of the extraction
@@milovacc1195 Ah crap. Maybe have a look at this one: geni.us/Normcore51mmBottomless
I did the same, but am now concerned about aluminum oxide ending up in the coffee from the acidic steam reacting with the exposed aluminum. Thoughts on that?
Well Adam, the espresso does not come into contact with the aluminum, just the stainless steel of the basket.
My old delonghi espresso machine had metallic basket holder, I believe it's similar aluminium alloy (no one would use pure aluminium anyway, it's too expensive and soft, and the alloy it should be safe enough). Now I'm considering to unscrew the plastic thingy from 685 holder, and just use it with the older bar14 classic basket. I already tried that, it fits the holder and it brews ok, but the thingy interferes with the flow. Sawing the holder seems like too much effort (for now). I might consider getting a bottomless one later on..
Good idea, but from amazon I got good one 10usd, still working :)
That is a good alternative!
Is this the only option?? Can I just buy one??
Sure, you can buy one, too! I have some listed in the description. 👍
Curious, isnt it just easier to just buy a naked portafilter? saw a few on amazon for like 40 bucks,.
Sure thing, you can do that! Check the description for a link to one you can buy. 👍🏻
Does the coffee actually taste tho?
Yes, it does!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner what I like to hear I ordered one to try out
Can I get a creamy coffe if I use pre ground coffe in non pressurised portafilter ?
Nope. It will run through way too fast, and not have much pressure.
Nice yamaha receicer
Thank you! I love that vintage look!
Lost the black plastic part someone please give me one
Wäre es nicht besser das Gehäuse weiter unten abzuschneiden bzw nur den boden zu entfernen? Dann hätte man einen besseren spritzschutz weil ein teil des Gehäuses noch unter dem filter sitzen würde
Das stimmt, aber dann wuerde man die Extraktion nicht so gut sehen, denn es wuerde im Schatten stehen.
Szuper!!!!🙂
Mine doesn’t build enough pressure i think. After I switched to non pressurized, it has no crema. Does anyone have the same problem?
P.s. i have a different machine (from china)
Hello there! Yes, your beans are probably too old - or in other words roasted too long ago.
These videos may help:
How to extract the perfect espresso: ua-cam.com/video/piO6c695Op8/v-deo.html
How to Get Crema: ua-cam.com/video/00NSG9459a8/v-deo.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ua-cam.com/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/v-deo.html
Ended up cutting the wrong side of the handle 🙈
Oh crap!
Why to do this. Is the coffe better after or ?
but...amazon..?
Sure, for the people who don't want to cut their own...
Hi!
Thanks for the video :)
Is it really necessary to cut at the very same height than the basket? Because I only cut the bottom part with the 2 holes, and it looks ok to me.
(Beside the fact that I will have to bend down a bit more to see my extraction?😂)
Mine looks more like this one:
ua-cam.com/users/shortsYQBhmTYNg1U?feature=share
Any difference at the end?
Hi Hugo! Sure you can cut it that way, but I like the look of it cut just at the basket, for the aesthetic. But there is one advantage to your way of cutting it - it will spray less. Cheers!
can you upload a video of your? i was thinking the same, but dont know if it ill spray less
I think your solution might be better in terms of strength. Handle vs hoop.
They want to invent what is already invented, and then they say they are coffee lovers. For good coffee, the main one is the origin of the grain, the roasting, and the temperature of the water. If they do not have this, what they do to the filter holder will not serve anything. I drink coffee espresso at + 50 years. Coffee of all supplies, and the best that I drank to this day was a very small culture of the Huila -Angola plateau, and Santos - Brazil
Why not buying bottomless portafilter instead of modifying it
Because DIY 🪚 can be fun. 👍🏻
But of course buying one is also an option.
Please buy a damn vise u can get them for like $30... I'm just DIY guy and I use mine almost every day. About 2 months ago upgraded to Pony 360° vise. Was $100
Haha, yeah I know. I just bought this one from Stanely: amzn.to/3FY1dQr
Maybe you'll see it in some upcoming videos. It is pretty nice for the price.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner ok I see. It's more for delicate work. I have heavy-duty cast iron bench vise. The u have to mount permanently
I was thinking about one of those. But for my little projects, I like this one. It also comes with the jaw protectors.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I bought jaw protector separately I have rubber and plastic sets. I work on guns on my channel
Just buy one for $20
Or you just buy a new one ☝️
I thought for sure this was satire
ایرانی ک دنبالشی منم😂
Just buy a portafilter.
They sell bottomless portafilters specifically designed to fit delonghi espresso machines for like, 8 bucks. You don't need to butcher your portafilter like this 😂
Well, the cheap ones are crap. Go for a Normcore, Neouza, or Capfei. I have some listed in the video description.
The factory portafilter makes a better espresso. The Bottomless Portafilter is not for a Dedica. Espresso is bad. DeLonghi engineers would make the bottmless portafilter that it is better. And less material is in naked portafilter. I have a Dedica 685 and Mini Mazzer and never espresso is not as good as a factory portafilter.
Hey Zeljko, using a bottomless portafilter is about experimenting, since you can see how your puck preparation and grind setting is.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner And I've all experimented. CONCLUSION: The best portafilter is factory.
And espresso do not drink from glass cups. Only ceramic, thick.
With a bottomless portafilter you can really dial in your espresso and you'll only get good espresso with fresh beans and a dialed in grind size. The standard portafilter is double basket which creates crema even with old and stale beans. It all depends on what you actually want. I for myself have given up on this machine as I could not extract consistent shots day after day. Have bought a dual boiler with stable temperature during a shot. For me it was the right call. The advantage of the factory portafilter is that you don't have to nerd out and invest even more money and especially time in coffee/espresso making. It all depends on the use case.
@@DerZaubererFN Hey Paul, thanks for your comment. I find that the Dedica provides better temp stability than most little boiler machines. What dual boiler did you go with?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I did go with the Breville Dual Boiler. I've adjusted the pressure gauge manually to hit 9 bars and not above. Temp stability is awesome as it's measured and (re)heated directly at the group head. For grinders I got the breville smart grinder pro and the mignon specialita. Not sure which one to sell yet.
Yeah... I'll just go right ahead and buy $500 worth of construction equipment and 5 hours of labour to create something that I can buy on Amazon for $35.
:) I just used a hacksaw. But yes, it's easier to buy one, which is why I have some linked in the video description. Cheers!
You think a hacksaw is 500 dollars?
Not a good idea.Instead of buing tools to cut it, its better to get a new one with about 25euros