I've played through both,and for the type of metal I play. The EVH lost, the 6505 Mh has the same balls that the full size 6505 series heads have and is the main go to amp for metal bands.
+alvarg LOL,I was checking my Headphone input into my PC,thought I'd bumped it and it wasn't all the way in,.. : ) I forgot about it after I heard the Amps,... : )
+Jose Valenzuela Because It Didn't Seem like One of my Headphone speakers was working....seemed like it was mono for a bit...make sense to you now JV ?
The EVH is brighter and maybe a little more touch sensitive. The 6505 MH is warmer. The very slight tone difference really comes down to preference. The big advantage the 6505 MH has over the EVH LBX is the separate pre and post gain controls along with a nice reverb. Yes, you can modify the EVH with concentric pots but it will cost extra, whereas the 6505 MH comes that way.
Eh, I'm sorry but the Peavey gets it where it matters to my ears. The reviewer is totally leaning toward the EVH (just look at how he strokes it). The sound of the 6505 in this demo is just clearer, more focused, and just nails it. Mind you, I didn't see much adjustment of controls on this demo. Either way, the idea of "more tubes = better" is not really very accurate at all. The existence of tubes *do* matter to the sound (and no, I'm not outright bashing solid state amps- there are MANY excellent ones out there), but beyond that, everything revolves around the design of the circuit. If number of tubes were really relevant to sound quality, we'd see manufacturers sticking an insane amount of them in amplifiers for no reason other than a selling point. Peavey's fit and finish, the way the amplifier feels in your hands, has never been stellar. Even when every product was made in the U.S.A., but damn if they don't get the sound down. The very things the reviewer mentions as reasons he "wouldn't take it out of the bedroom," are the very reasons why the Peavey owns this comparison. It's small, can function well in the proper live environment, offers the home recorder and the professional studio operator a ton of flexibility and features at a FRACTION of the price. If that EVH amp said "Fender" on the front, I have no doubt it would be much closer to the same price. Either way, a more accurate shootout in my mind would be the EVH vs. the Orange OR15. Price is identical, tube compliment is closer in terms of number, and both are amplifiers that heavily rely upon a respected name to sell (as evidenced by Orange's ridiculous 2x12 bass cab being popular whilst using an ancient idea that's negated by vast improvements in speaker technology). Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own either one... it's basically why I'm here, but Peavey always gets a bad rap for reasons that I don't think I'll ever understand. Honestly, I think it just comes down to the logo design for them.
This video doesn't do it justice. I've played through both, and the Peavey destroys it for all out metal ,and on clean tone. For less money. The LBX was so mid range heavy, it made me want to puke a little. If Peavey ever came out with a teal stripe mini Peavey Ultra head with the same tone as the 60 and the 120 watt versions. Game over for every other lunch box amp builder.
To me it just sounded warmer not superior in any way, but I guess everyone hears it different and are entitle to an opinion in a good way. The warmness of the LBX makes it more desirable.
It was a big help to me,and you did a great job of showing what it's all about.Your commentary and opinions were also helpful.I know I'm a bit late,but I wasn't in the market in 2015 and I am now! Great Demo man,and for what it's worth,you have a new subscriber! Cheers!
Hey man I just wanted to let you know I was originally looking at picking up a 6505 mh. After watching your video I decided to go with a 5150 III LBX and man I am so happy with it. Thank you so much for doing this video. It was well done and while you didn't really pick one over the other it helped me decide that the 5150 III LBX was for me. I just couldn't be happier with it. It sounds so good. It IS really pro all the way. I went all out and ordered a custom hot bronco white mesa mini recto 1x12 cab to match it and it sounds so sick. Thanks so much! If I get out to AZ from TX I'll be sure to stop by and say Hi.
To my ears ...... 6505mh sounds more clear , its based off the 5150 , eddie didnt sign off on it doesnt really matter, he signed off on the 5150 so its all good imo, plus it sounds awesome.
I’ve had both of these. My problem is the 5150 volume is an on and off switch. I’ve had 2 6505mh’s and they are much more controllable. I also have the mt15 which is an insane amp and still prefer the cleans on the 6505 with the reverb. With 2 foot switches it’s an insanely versatile amp......
If you want a cleaner sound just swap out the tube that's part of the Blue channel's signal path and swap it for a 5751. It will reduce gain.So, full gain will now sound like it's on '8' instead but you will be able to dial the gain so your volume control really 'cleans up' It's the nice part about the EVH is it employs more tubes than the 6505 since it dedicates tubes specifically to each channel. While the PV borrows and uses relays to accomplish separate channels .
EVH had a falling out with Peavey so he would not "sign off" on the 6505 Mini. He has nothing to do with the 6505 line in genera other than the original 6505 was essentially a 5150 rebranded.
I'm seeing comments that the EVH is much warmer. I would sort of agree, but I think muddy is the better term. It might just be me, being that I usually prefer edgier tone with more bite. Both sound great! I have a Peavey Valveking 20 with a lot of the same features as the 6505 mini and I absolutely love it.
My main concern was the LBX is EL84 tubes and I can't decide between the 5150LBX and the EVH 50w mini. My gut tells me that the LBX is quality enough that most people would have a very hard time hearing any difference in tube specs. The demo clip sounded great. I have always loved 6L6 tubes but my issue with the 50w is I just don't need that much volume, my band would be yelling at me to turn down all the time. I keep going back and forth....ugh.
We A/B'd the 50 against the 15 a few days ago and we discovered that they sounds almost identical at low volumes, the 15 watt maaaybe sounding just a little better. As we cranked it higher however, the 50 watt kept the bass response and the 15 watt didn't seem to have any bass at all. Do with that information what you will.
+Nathan Songné I only play at home so that is why I like 5-15 watt Amps. To my ears they sound better at low volume compared to a 50-100 watt. The downside I agree is losing bass response with higher volumes which I hate.
Thanks for all the videos you do, bro Phillip. I'm in need of a rockin amp with versatility. I prefer a good master volume design that I can dial back to clean then up to gain as needed. Yours is the only video I've seen where someone plays a good rhythm overdrive setting then switches to the red scream mode, *keeping* his settings the same so that we can see the amp's usefulness in real-world applications. I wish, personally, you'd do another 5-10 minute video with the LBX showing just this. Pre on blue channel at 9:00-10:00 then, work the clean sound with gtr volume, then switch to the red channel. Repeat this with the gain ranges at 10:00, 12:00, 2:00, & 4:00. Thanks again for great informational videos.
Good video, I had a Peavey 5150 full size head years ago, picked it up for a song, I liked the amp but it is a one trick pony, Plus I have a new rule, Don't buy any combo amp or head that doesn't have reverb or a loop, it does make life so much easier, I think it's hard to pass on the Peavey 6505 and all that it has to offer, it has all the usable bells and whistles and then some and one can probably buy one new for $455.00,,,I played through the 5150 and thought it was ok the same day I auditioned the Peavey Mini Classic and loved it, I think I would go with the Peavey, they make a fine tube amp.
I've previously owned a 50-watt 5153, great amp but super loud. Sold it for other gear pursuits. My mainstay is my Marshall JCM full stack, but I wanted something for home that is higher gain. Picked up the 6505 MH a couple weeks ago and love it. Killer little amp. Lots of features, clean tones are good but the dirty and high gain tones are monstrous. If you want a lunchbox amp that ca do the brown sound go with the EVH. The Peavey does great brown sounds also but it is more nu metal than old metal. I go to my Marshall when I want old school drive and crunch.
Because of this demo, I was able to purchase the EVH LBX with confidence. I have been struggling in my mind whether to purchase the 6505 or the LBX. Everything you said about both amps are on point! I was going to get the 6505 mini head because it did have a digital reverb and all the other goodies but the LBX sounds just completely awesome! On the side note, must be honest with you. I'm not really digging the Eddie Van Halen 2 by 12 speakers. I'm going to go ahead and go with a HESU demon 60 watt speaker. This speaker has sort that Engel sound without that Engel price! Again, thank you very much for the detailed sound demo of both amps.
I like them both, if I had to choose just one, the EVH had a little more depth in sound to my ear. Meantime, I have a Peavey Mini Valve King and I like it.
I know I’m late to the party but I just picked up the 6505 and have had the lbx, and while they are both outstanding little amps, I’m leaning towards the 6505. The clean with a boost is what puts it over the top. More versatile. Both struggle to maintain their composure at stage volumes but besides that you can’t go wrong with either for home use.
Something worth noting about the EVH stuff, they absolutely will not provide a schematic for their amps. So if your amp breaks down you're limited to authorized repair technicians only, however close or far they may be. Or you have to hope that someone leaks a schematic. Same goes for marshall. Peavey on the other hand, will simply ask you for your amps serial no. before they'll give you a schematic. For me, thats a bit of deal breaker. I want to be able to work on MY amps MYSELF, but.. I do like the sound of the LBX better.
Wow that's a tough choice!! Tbh I think I prefer the sound of the Peavey, plus the clean channel! but the EVH is pretty killer sounding! Great video man!
Phillip, or anyone... Do you know the preamp tube assignments for the 6505MH? what V1, V2, & V3 control? IS there a phase inverter? I can find any schematics. Thanks for the Demo!!! Chris
Thanks Phillip for a great video. If I'm in the market for guitar stuff (recently started learning drums, so I'm not counting on it in the very near future :)), I'll definitely keep your store in mind. That EVH box just looks nice too.
Could be a plan. I got rid of the wife and now have a sound system for large venues and enough gear for 25 bands. Ah.... bliss. Guess what.... the gear is cheaper and its quiet when you want it to be. LOL
@@rockdaddy2168 I never could understand when people talk about their wife telling them how to spend the money they earn. I would be the one walking if I had to live under those conditions. I have never had a woman tell me how to spend my money.
No they are a different size pickups than a Tele has. These are a Strat single coil size that fit only a Strat pickguard. You can find them on Amazon and eBay 👍
I usually use a Boss GT 10 in a 4 cable mode with different amps. It should be possible to use than a clean amp simulation of the Boss (or any other multi) to get a 3rd (clean) channel. Did you ever check that with the 5150?
Peavey makes good shit for the dough. I almost bought a 5150 lbx because I couldn't find a 6505MH around, only had the 6505 combo for $700 and it was HUGE. Luckily I found a Tweaker 40 for $400 and it dials up into high gain very well, highly recommend it.
I love A/B comparison videos. Especially with nothing between the guitar and amp but a cable. I'll go to a pedal video if I want to hear floor toys. As usual, good video, Phil. I like the 5150 iii and your right, it's nothing like the original 5150/6505. I have compared my 5150 block letter side by side with last years 5150iii they are deffinantly two different amps, both good. For me, I like the massive bottom end of the Peavey.
i am about to buy the evh 5150 50 watt + 2 by 12 combo just saving for it but whats your view on pedals?I think i would only need maybe a fuzz or chorus or delays or wah,but i would never think of putting a overdrive on it though.that being said if you used a wah you would need a none overdriven wah i think or you might send your grand ma into orbit.Thoughts =)
no load and sim output from the EVH, that's really what it came down to me, for silent practising , same problem with Orange lunchbox amps, yes you can buy a captor X or whatever but they are quite expensive, for those that don't want to spend a fortune and want to use their amp silently sometimes for home practice, the 6505 does the job, also the 1W mode makes it easier to play at home quietly through a cab. The EVH amp can only really be played loud with a band. I also found the 5150 to be VERY noisy, meaning you need to buy a noise gate aswell and a separate reverb, the costs start to add up.
Here's my two cent's , I have the EVH lbx 3 number 11 , the amp has a lot of high frequency's, with my strat with Duncan stacked humbucker's , it's a really loud amp even on 1/4 wattage, to appreciate the tone of the amp it needs to be fairly loud, unless going for a clean sound which it will do,, i think its a great sounding amp, i see it as a work horse for a touring musician,, but for my needs just small club's and jam's with friend's , i,m thinking the 6505 may be more versatile ,don't know.going to check it out, i think the 6505 with reverb may be more suitable for me, but i have to say to eddy and fender great job guy's , love the amp'
Hi Phillip, I am going for the 6505 mini. Can you please tell me if a Blackstar HT metal 4x8 8ohms 60 watts cabinet will work with it. Would really appreciate a response cause I am in Bangladesh and it is really hard to find sound advice and good amps here. Thanks
Very cool!!! Great comparison. Hopefully I can find a local shop that will carry them. I would love to test both out. I'm very intrigued. Thank for the great videos as usual!! I always learn good info from your videos.
6505 Sounds a lot.... more crisp. And considering these are mic'd, the difference in person is probably more profound. I like the "brown sound" style the LBX has, but I prefer crispness for my playing (I can muddle my sound on my own, thank you very much).
Is the LBX loud enough to play in live situation ??? back line job? i totally agree on comments, from the start of the vid my eyes where just drawn to the LBX looks more quality ! sounded beast ! i like running amps flat out, i just wish it had been 20 watts ! does it use same transformers as 50 watt ? 5150 combo 1x12 or LBX bloody spoilt for choice
It is on pre order on Sweetwater, American Musical Supply, and mcknightguitarco.com . They will announce it around the 6th and they will be in the stores couple weeks or sooner.
+Nathan Songné ok cool, thanks man . I have one final question how did you get a prototype or an early production model soo fast before they are being announced that's pretty cool
I'm not sure if you had set the controls exactly the same on each head, but the EVH sounded abit more round/warm, whereas the 6505 seemed to cut alot more.
Great video! Two questions: 1) The LBX is not even on the EVH website yet - how did you get it so fast? 2) Do you have specs list for it? Can you show the back of the amp?
+pbeckster307 the next batch is hitting stores on or around the 23rd. I was able to get a small amount of the first ones. and I have another batch of them in a week. It should be updated on EVHgear.com If not we have specs on McKnight Guitar Co. facebook
I think the real question here is "Does the LBX's Blue and Red channels sound like the 50 watter?" It's too bad peavey decided to dump so many features into the 6505 MH I think they could've made it USA for $500 if they kept it stripped down or offered better value at $350 MIC
+Kelly Jackson Disagree. Once you start removing features it's becomes another one trick pony, another Marshall Class 5. I don't want anything that doesn't have multi channels and an effects loop. I don't care if its one watt or 100.
Kelly Jackson I stand corrected. From the front, the LBX looked like a one channel amp. Never seen a channel switcher like it with just a switch and no extra knobs Ultimately stripped down usually means compromised
Gotcha. I actually have a 6505+ of sorts so I'm familiar with the basic feature set. I personally wouldnt use any speaker or mic simulations they throw in. To me, I don't think it adds cost. I think its just some computer chips they own the rights to and just want to sell it up. The USB out might be awesome for someone who doesn't own an interface and has 0 clue how to mic an amp. I think the kids will like the 6505 minis.
The LBX head is a joke compared to the 50 watt and 100 watt version 5153 heads. TheLBX was so mid range heavy,it taken a good 20 minutes to dial it ,after jamming on it for another 20 minutes.I was still like meh. That's why if you watch the video again,you see that the guy in the video has the mids scooped and set very low.
Please no. Close micing gives a totally false impression of an amps sound. A well placed, high quality room mic about 3 feet out in front of the amp will give a better representation of what the amp really sounds like in person.
I disagree. If you don't use a close mic you will ear the room of this recording...in your room this amp will sound totally different. Close mic will be closer to the amp character because it will capture less of the room and more of the amp.
Our ears are not shaped like an SM57 nor do they interpret sound like one. And I don't play and listen to my guitars with my ear 1 inch off of the speakers.
ok. If your not interested in recording i can understand the argument.But If you record your guitars you'll will use a mic...so i think the best review of an amp would be to have a room mic and a close mic and A B the recordings...that will gives us both perspectives. Cheers
Hey Phillip,Great Shoot-Out,I Have the 6505,I had to switch out some tubes to try to "TAME" the Lead Channel,As far as the HUGE Hi-Gain HUM,Inherent in a lot of Hi-Gain amps.,With just a little help from the noise Gate in my Digitech RP1000 that I have hooked up using the "4 Cable Method " (Really sounds GREAT as far as adding Effects,more control over EQ,Noise Gate functions,Expression/Wah pedals,PLUS the ability to Take the Modeled Amps/Speaker cabs,OUT of the chain,and only having the AMP/Speaker Cab you're using for the MAIN TONE,Without the Tone being Altered,or Sucked out , using the RPO1000 and the Change in tubes,I STILL get the Same Hi-Gain HEAVEN that was there before,Just without the HUM FROM HELL.. : ) The EVH sounds AWESOME,I Believe that after I get some NEW "TOYS" Paid off,I shall be purchasing one !,I think that the Hi-Gain Side of the EVH,Has GOT Me thinking that it has More Harmonics/less Bright Tone than the 6505,which is What I LIKE !!,although,some things you can overlook a bit because of the "EXTRAS" that Peavey gives you ,and the Price. BOTH KILLER AMPS,But,The EVH has more of the PRO,PLUG IN AND PLAY VIBE to it as you basically said . Thanks Again Phillip,...NICE Fat Strats,My Birthday is in MID- NOVEMBER,if You want to make a disabled gulf war Vet's Birthday,..LOL!! Just Kidding! GREAT VIDEO and INFO,I Just Subscribed and Keep the COOL Stuff COMING!! Bob Malin Glendora,NJ
Good review! The EVH LBX is a pretty cool amp. It's not in the same league as the Soldano Hot Rod 25 you mention late in the video though IMO. The Sodano Hot Rod 25 is insane. Just miles ahead of other lower wattage amps and many higher wattage amps.
Know this is am older video so you might now see this or get to it, but seeing that you're an EVH fan as well, I want to know what you think would be the best one to achieve that Live Right Here, Right Now tone. Its my favorite EVH tone by far and would like to get close to that in a little lunchbox amp. Would the EVH be better or the Peavey?
Features aside, I like the tone from the 6505 mini better. Then you get $200 off, more features and cheaper when replacing tubes. Only thing I can say, imo, the EVH has going for it is it looks cool but I don't give a shit about that if it's not performing. The EVH sounds great, don't get me wrong, the 6505 just sounds better for the tone I'm going for.
Hi Phillip, I dig the comparison of these lunch box amps. If I had the means, I'd get as many as possible from these 2, along with ENGL Ironball, Mesa V 25, and even the Marshall DSL15. If there are other lunch box amps that are in the same league, it would be great to compare all of them in a video.
i have a Mark V 25 and I'm considering a second amp just to have some variety. do think that the LBX has a superior marshally crunch to what the mark v 25 can accomplish?
Cool video thanks :) My only complaint is that you ran the presence too low on the EVH red channel and that might give the impression that the amp is too dark for those that don't already use an EVH head. Cool playing though :)
Hi Philippe, indeed the 5150 overdrive is killer although I´m wondering if the burn channel of the 5150 is able to cut through in a band mix. It sounds that the 6505 has more mid frequencies in the lead channel, which much more helps in a context. I usually use a Boss GT 10 in a 4 cable mode with different amps. It should be possible to use than a clean amp simulation of the Boss (or any other multi) to get a 3rd (clean) channel. Did you ever check that with the 5150?
Nobody gives Randall amps enough credit....the Randall Diavlo RD 20H is the way to go if your going to go mini. Better tubes better sound....most mini heads sound just that...mini....the Randall sounds like one of the big boys. Check it out.
Late to the party but I have something to say. Dollar 4 dollar the PV 6505 MH quality is far better. I have both and the plus and an older 5150. I also use a Variac as did Eddy. The 6505 MH is my amp of choice for medium size and smaller gigs. I believe the PV MH is a far more pro then the LBX. I can't plug my LBX straight into my computer and that has value. Everything is subjective but in this case what you get for the price is far more with the PV. Demoing theses amps with a Strat is a bad idea. I would say most people that would be interested in theses amps would not be using a Strat.
I had the EVH111 50 watt and just couldn't get along with it, I got an Orange dual dark 50 which is just brilliant, I also have a 6505mh and it rules, it does not hum, does not sound at all fizzy (comments from below) I even had a very well known musician local to me borrow it and take some profiles from it he was that impressed. So not saying anything bad about the new EVH LBX, it sounded great, but that little Peavey is an awesome piece of kit for the money, made in China means nothing these days. Also had a much more expensive German made ENGL ironball which is another lunchbox head and the Peavey blew that away completely, so much so I sold the ENGL within days. thanks for the review Phil
+thehoppo Wow, I've got the Ironball and would've never thought the 6505 MH would even be close in terms of articulation and tightness. Getting rid of the fizz was a serious issue with the Ironball, lower the presence or 5751/12at7 in V2 takes care of that. Would like to know where and how the 6505 MH shines above the Ironball?
+hadley101 actually I thought the clean channel on the ENGL was good, maybe edges the Peavey, but the gain channel was no contest, the ENGL gain channel in my opinion was just too tight and it had that issue that some lunchbox heads have where it sounds like the distortion is kinda sitting on the top of the rest of the sound and not actually a total dynamic full gain sound like a full sized head usually gives you. However mate, tone is very subjective, what sounds great to some sounds awful to others, one thing is for sure UA-cam videos no matter how well made, never really give you the real tone, only way is to go play something for yourself and hear it in person it always sounds different. Cheers,
+thehoppo As subjective as tone is we seem to be in agreement when it comes to the Ironball. The incredible tightness and note definition is what I love about the amp. Used to have a Marshall JCM 900 SL-X that I miss so for the sag and openness of the tone, been on a mission to find another one in good condition. Run the Ironball preamp through the EL34 output tubes would make my day, yes sir. Cheers!
+Arjun Kaul my personal preference is the Peavey, however best advice I can give you is to go and play through these yourself and decide which one you like the best
Phil... I just stumbled across this video. I didn't even know the EVH LBX existed until I was in your on-line store just now buying the thick pick pack and I saw it listed. I have a bro, a former bandmate that I love to death. He's a gifted songwriter, guitarist and performer. However, when it comes to gear and dialing it in, he's a f*cking idiot. He blew up his Marshall SS head a while back and bought a POS Crate 3 channel SS head to replace it and he has never been able to figure out how to dial it in. When I was playing with him, I'd have to dial it in for him and then after he effed with it, I'd dial it back to where it needed to be when he was taking a break. He has no clue as to what the Fletcher Munson Effect is and would complain that his amp was changing tone during practices. So he'd just turn up louder making all go deaf. He could figure out how to just adjust his Eq to compensate, even after I showed him a dozen times because the Crate had too many "choices" on the front panel. He'd always turn the wrong knobs or hit the wrong switch on the footswitch controller that came with the amp. I'm thinking about picking up a used one for him now that these LBXs have been out for about a year (your vid is dated 10-2015). My question to you is if they seem to be holding up fairly well? As you're a dealer, have you seen many warranty repairs come back on these? The reason I gave you the long story was to illustrate why the Peavey is not the solution for this bro of mine. Too many choices. He'd still eff it up and continue to deafen his current bandmates and piss off the FOH guy at the clubs and bars where his band plays. I'm willing to buy him one not because I'm rich (I'm not wealthy but I am blessed), but rather to help him out and as a public service to the city he lives in. lol
Hello Phil--thanks for all the great videos and your candor! I am thinking of purchasing the Peavey Mini simply because of the features and the price point. I wanted to know your personal option on which cab would pair with it the best. I typically play at home most of the time in my office/guitar room like yours and occasionally with some buddies if that helps. I imagine a 2x12 by EVH or Mesa would be a front runner but thought I'd ask you. Thanks!
The EVH 1x12 is a great cab in the under $500 price range and used you can save some money as well. I use Mesa boogies because I know I might changes heads from time to time but, I got sick of taking a bath on cabs. So I use Marshalls, and Mesa because they sound good and I do not care what head I put on them.
+Ted Sanchez I personally use a Peavey Valve King 4x12 for live shows. For the price, they sound pretty good and are durable cabs. Though, it's always good to keep in mind that, for the most part, you get what you pay for and the speakers I'm the cab are just okay. and it's 16ohms only.
I checked both of these amps on a guitar store yesterday. I didn't like the distortion of the 6505 though but noticed something with the EVH. With the volume just above 9 o'clock on a 4x12 Marshall 1960 the tone was less juicy and with less saturation. Is it normal or it is because of the wattage. Thanks and keep up the good work!
yes, I notice the same. at higher volumes it losses something. I think it just can not push the lows at 15 watts. I still love it, but I do hear the same thing your talking about
+Phillip McKnight Does this thing happen to the 50w version or the 100w? I mean for recording you need a good amount of volume I suppose right? I would like to avoid that sort of breaking up.
I checked the lbx on a matching 1x12 that happened to be on ear level. The sound was kind of bad. I know that high frequencies tend to be just in front of speaker but then where do we need to stand when dialing our tone on the amp? Thanks again.
EVH....the Peavey sounds great but I have a Boss 100 Katana w/58-pedals built in when I want something with all the bells and whistles that can dial in practically any tone including tube amps! I agree with Phil....the EVH is more a PRO, get it done amp! Thanks Phil!
I've just ordered a 6505 MH from Andertons. These both seem cool, but it's about £200 cheaper for the 6505 which has more features and just...honestly, it LOOKS nicer to me. I don't like how the 5150 LBX looks with the white, I think the Peavey will go better on my Marshall 1936 cab which is majorly important since neither of them will probably ever be used outside my study lol
I've played through both,and for the type of metal I play. The EVH lost, the 6505 Mh has the same balls that the full size 6505 series heads have and is the main go to amp for metal bands.
Lead and clean tones i agree. But in this video, power chords sounded much more full in the 5150 mini
Nuttz fella lmao
my left ear enjoyed this video...
+alvarg LOL,I was checking my Headphone input into my PC,thought I'd bumped it and it wasn't all the way in,.. : ) I forgot about it after I heard the Amps,... : )
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+Jose Valenzuela Because It Didn't Seem like One of my Headphone speakers was working....seemed like it was mono for a bit...make sense to you now JV ?
Bob Malin yea but the thing is that the sound worked for both sides of my head phones
+alvarg I'm glad you mentioned that! I was thinking I was having an issue with my speakers!
Phil, your honesty about gear is what keeps bringing me back to your channel Thank you sir
I apreciate that you give your personal opinion. It helps a lot.
The EVH is brighter and maybe a little more touch sensitive. The 6505 MH is warmer. The very slight tone difference really comes down to preference. The big advantage the 6505 MH has over the EVH LBX is the separate pre and post gain controls along with a nice reverb. Yes, you can modify the EVH with concentric pots but it will cost extra, whereas the 6505 MH comes that way.
Eh, I'm sorry but the Peavey gets it where it matters to my ears. The reviewer is totally leaning toward the EVH (just look at how he strokes it). The sound of the 6505 in this demo is just clearer, more focused, and just nails it. Mind you, I didn't see much adjustment of controls on this demo. Either way, the idea of "more tubes = better" is not really very accurate at all. The existence of tubes *do* matter to the sound (and no, I'm not outright bashing solid state amps- there are MANY excellent ones out there), but beyond that, everything revolves around the design of the circuit. If number of tubes were really relevant to sound quality, we'd see manufacturers sticking an insane amount of them in amplifiers for no reason other than a selling point. Peavey's fit and finish, the way the amplifier feels in your hands, has never been stellar. Even when every product was made in the U.S.A., but damn if they don't get the sound down. The very things the reviewer mentions as reasons he "wouldn't take it out of the bedroom," are the very reasons why the Peavey owns this comparison. It's small, can function well in the proper live environment, offers the home recorder and the professional studio operator a ton of flexibility and features at a FRACTION of the price. If that EVH amp said "Fender" on the front, I have no doubt it would be much closer to the same price. Either way, a more accurate shootout in my mind would be the EVH vs. the Orange OR15. Price is identical, tube compliment is closer in terms of number, and both are amplifiers that heavily rely upon a respected name to sell (as evidenced by Orange's ridiculous 2x12 bass cab being popular whilst using an ancient idea that's negated by vast improvements in speaker technology). Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own either one... it's basically why I'm here, but Peavey always gets a bad rap for reasons that I don't think I'll ever understand. Honestly, I think it just comes down to the logo design for them.
That 5150 LBX sounds monstrous! Prefer it over the Peavey for sure. 4:27 sounded awesome.
+El Manimal i agree!!!!!it sound like 100 watt amps there
This video doesn't do it justice. I've played through both, and the Peavey destroys it for all out metal ,and on clean tone. For less money. The LBX was so mid range heavy, it made me want to puke a little. If Peavey ever came out with a teal stripe mini Peavey Ultra head with the same tone as the 60 and the 120 watt versions. Game over for every other lunch box amp builder.
To me it just sounded warmer not superior in any way, but I guess everyone hears it different and are entitle to an opinion in a good way.
The warmness of the LBX makes it more desirable.
It was a big help to me,and you did a great job of showing what it's all about.Your commentary and opinions were also helpful.I know I'm a bit late,but I wasn't in the market in 2015 and I am now! Great Demo man,and for what it's worth,you have a new subscriber! Cheers!
Hey man I just wanted to let you know I was originally looking at picking up a 6505 mh. After watching your video I decided to go with a 5150 III LBX and man I am so happy with it. Thank you so much for doing this video. It was well done and while you didn't really pick one over the other it helped me decide that the 5150 III LBX was for me. I just couldn't be happier with it. It sounds so good. It IS really pro all the way. I went all out and ordered a custom hot bronco white mesa mini recto 1x12 cab to match it and it sounds so sick. Thanks so much! If I get out to AZ from TX I'll be sure to stop by and say Hi.
To my ears ...... 6505mh sounds more clear , its based off the 5150 , eddie didnt sign off on it doesnt really matter, he signed off on the 5150 so its all good imo, plus it sounds awesome.
the honesty is so much appreciated. gonna go with the LBX
Phil you're awesome! Glad to see your channel doing so well!
I have been watching yours as well. I love it.
I’ve had both of these. My problem is the 5150 volume is an on and off switch. I’ve had 2 6505mh’s and they are much more controllable. I also have the mt15 which is an insane amp and still prefer the cleans on the 6505 with the reverb.
With 2 foot switches it’s an insanely versatile amp......
Clean sucks bro,use the volume knob!!!
The Peavey has more presence.
If you want a cleaner sound just swap out the tube that's part of the Blue channel's signal path and swap it for a 5751. It will reduce gain.So, full gain will now sound like it's on '8' instead but you will be able to dial the gain so your volume control really 'cleans up' It's the nice part about the EVH is it employs more tubes than the 6505 since it dedicates tubes specifically to each channel. While the PV borrows and uses relays to accomplish separate channels .
EVH had a falling out with Peavey so he would not "sign off" on the 6505 Mini. He has nothing to do with the 6505 line in genera other than the original 6505 was essentially a 5150 rebranded.
I'm seeing comments that the EVH is much warmer. I would sort of agree, but I think muddy is the better term. It might just be me, being that I usually prefer edgier tone with more bite. Both sound great! I have a Peavey Valveking 20 with a lot of the same features as the 6505 mini and I absolutely love it.
My main concern was the LBX is EL84 tubes and I can't decide between the 5150LBX and the EVH 50w mini. My gut tells me that the LBX is quality enough that most people would have a very hard time hearing any difference in tube specs. The demo clip sounded great. I have always loved 6L6 tubes but my issue with the 50w is I just don't need that much volume, my band would be yelling at me to turn down all the time. I keep going back and forth....ugh.
We A/B'd the 50 against the 15 a few days ago and we discovered that they sounds almost identical at low volumes, the 15 watt maaaybe sounding just a little better. As we cranked it higher however, the 50 watt kept the bass response and the 15 watt didn't seem to have any bass at all. Do with that information what you will.
+Nathan Songné I only play at home so that is why I like 5-15 watt Amps. To my ears they sound better at low volume compared to a 50-100 watt. The downside I agree is losing bass response with higher volumes which I hate.
Thanks for all the videos you do, bro Phillip. I'm in need of a rockin amp with versatility. I prefer a good master volume design that I can dial back to clean then up to gain as needed. Yours is the only video I've seen where someone plays a good rhythm overdrive setting then switches to the red scream mode, *keeping* his settings the same so that we can see the amp's usefulness in real-world applications. I wish, personally, you'd do another 5-10 minute video with the LBX showing just this. Pre on blue channel at 9:00-10:00 then, work the clean sound with gtr volume, then switch to the red channel. Repeat this with the gain ranges at 10:00, 12:00, 2:00, & 4:00. Thanks again for great informational videos.
Good video, I had a Peavey 5150 full size head years ago, picked it up for a song, I liked the amp but it is a one trick pony, Plus I have a new rule, Don't buy any combo amp or head that doesn't have reverb or a loop, it does make life so much easier, I think it's hard to pass on the Peavey 6505 and all that it has to offer, it has all the usable bells and whistles and then some and one can probably buy one new for $455.00,,,I played through the 5150 and thought it was ok the same day I auditioned the Peavey Mini Classic and loved it, I think I would go with the Peavey, they make a fine tube amp.
I've previously owned a 50-watt 5153, great amp but super loud. Sold it for other gear pursuits. My mainstay is my Marshall JCM full stack, but I wanted something for home that is higher gain. Picked up the 6505 MH a couple weeks ago and love it. Killer little amp. Lots of features, clean tones are good but the dirty and high gain tones are monstrous. If you want a lunchbox amp that ca do the brown sound go with the EVH. The Peavey does great brown sounds also but it is more nu metal than old metal. I go to my Marshall when I want old school drive and crunch.
Because of this demo, I was able to purchase the EVH LBX with confidence. I have been struggling in my mind whether to purchase the 6505 or the LBX. Everything you said about both amps are on point! I was going to get the 6505 mini head because it did have a digital reverb and all the other goodies but the LBX sounds just completely awesome! On the side note, must be honest with you. I'm not really digging the Eddie Van Halen 2 by 12 speakers. I'm going to go ahead and go with a HESU demon 60 watt speaker. This speaker has sort that Engel sound without that Engel price! Again, thank you very much for the detailed sound demo of both amps.
Does the 6505 MH sound good at bedroom/apartment levels on the 5W and 1W settings?
yea
It's maybe a bit late but I have the 6505 mh, I play a lot on the 1W setting and I can tell you that it sounds really really good.
I like them both, if I had to choose just one, the EVH had a little more depth in sound to my ear. Meantime, I have a Peavey Mini Valve King and I like it.
Great video, thanks ! I'm really liking the LBX. Can't wait to see your video A/B comparison with the 5150 III 50 watt.....
They both sound bad ass. I’ve played a 6505 mini through a 4x12 cab. Sounds killer. I have the 5150 iii 50 w and love it.
Could I run a helix stomp into the fx loop to use the helix with a guitar cab? I know I’d have to turn the cab block off.
Thank you for this video! Had this very same dilemma this week. Going with the 6505!
I know I’m late to the party but I just picked up the 6505 and have had the lbx, and while they are both outstanding little amps, I’m leaning towards the 6505. The clean with a boost is what puts it over the top. More versatile. Both struggle to maintain their composure at stage volumes but besides that you can’t go wrong with either for home use.
thanks for making all these videos - very helpful.
Phil, keep it up...you keep improving your videos!
+David Thompson Thank you I'm trying to get it dialed in.
Something worth noting about the EVH stuff, they absolutely will not provide a schematic for their amps. So if your amp breaks down you're limited to authorized repair technicians only, however close or far they may be. Or you have to hope that someone leaks a schematic. Same goes for marshall.
Peavey on the other hand, will simply ask you for your amps serial no. before they'll give you a schematic.
For me, thats a bit of deal breaker. I want to be able to work on MY amps MYSELF, but.. I do like the sound of the LBX better.
There is Schematic online, have had/repaired the Lbx ll myself
Really helpful video...as usual. Thank you mate.
Wow that's a tough choice!! Tbh I think I prefer the sound of the Peavey, plus the clean channel! but the EVH is pretty killer sounding! Great video man!
Great friggin' video. Nice to see a comparison of VH inspired amps.
Both sound good, the only deference I hear is that the Fender evh LBX sounds warmer other than that is marketing.
Phillip, or anyone... Do you know the preamp tube assignments for the 6505MH? what V1, V2, & V3 control? IS there a phase inverter? I can find any schematics. Thanks for the Demo!!!
Chris
I have not found a tube lay out for it either. If I come across one I will post.
+Phillip McKnight Thanks for the reply. I found one over at eurotubes.com www.eurotubes.com/store/pc/catalog/PeaveyMHTubeChart.jpg
Thanks Phillip for a great video. If I'm in the market for guitar stuff (recently started learning drums, so I'm not counting on it in the very near future :)), I'll definitely keep your store in mind. That EVH box just looks nice too.
My wife would have left me long before I bought a quarter of the gear this guy owns
Could be a plan. I got rid of the wife and now have a sound system for large venues and enough gear for 25 bands. Ah.... bliss.
Guess what.... the gear is cheaper and its quiet when you want it to be.
LOL
@@rockdaddy2168 I never could understand when people talk about their wife telling them how to spend the money they earn. I would be the one walking if I had to live under those conditions. I have never had a woman tell me how to spend my money.
Very informative review. I like your style. Thanks for posting!
Those singlecoils are from a telecaster?
No they are a different size pickups than a Tele has. These are a Strat single coil size that fit only a Strat pickguard. You can find them on Amazon and eBay 👍
I usually use a Boss GT 10 in a 4 cable mode with different amps. It should be possible to use than a clean amp simulation of the Boss (or any other multi) to get a 3rd (clean) channel. Did you ever check that with the 5150?
+shaboum I did not.
I want that strat
Peavey makes good shit for the dough. I almost bought a 5150 lbx because I couldn't find a 6505MH around, only had the 6505 combo for $700 and it was HUGE.
Luckily I found a Tweaker 40 for $400 and it dials up into high gain very well, highly recommend it.
I love A/B comparison videos. Especially with nothing between the guitar and amp but a cable. I'll go to a pedal video if I want to hear floor toys.
As usual, good video, Phil. I like the 5150 iii and your right, it's nothing like the original 5150/6505. I have compared my 5150 block letter side by side with last years 5150iii they are deffinantly two different amps, both good. For me, I like the massive bottom end of the Peavey.
I liked the Peavey better, who woulda thunk it?
seems like the evh would produce better pedal driven distortion then right it have Superior tone?
+Mazeingpower I can see that.
i am about to buy the evh 5150 50 watt + 2 by 12 combo just saving for it but whats your view on pedals?I think i would only need maybe a fuzz or chorus or delays or wah,but i would never think of putting a overdrive on it though.that being said if you used a wah you would need a none overdriven wah i think or you might send your grand ma into orbit.Thoughts =)
by the way thanks for doing all the reviews helped me on my purchase
no load and sim output from the EVH, that's really what it came down to me, for silent practising , same problem with Orange lunchbox amps, yes you can buy a captor X or whatever but they are quite expensive, for those that don't want to spend a fortune and want to use their amp silently sometimes for home practice, the 6505 does the job, also the 1W mode makes it easier to play at home quietly through a cab. The EVH amp can only really be played loud with a band. I also found the 5150 to be VERY noisy, meaning you need to buy a noise gate aswell and a separate reverb, the costs start to add up.
sorry to say 6505. the 5150 2 is my favorite of all time
Here's my two cent's , I have the EVH lbx 3 number 11 , the amp has a lot of high frequency's, with my strat with Duncan stacked humbucker's , it's a really loud amp even on 1/4 wattage, to appreciate the tone of the amp it needs to be fairly loud, unless going for a clean sound which it will do,, i think its a great sounding amp, i see it as a work horse for a touring musician,, but for my needs just small club's and jam's with friend's , i,m thinking the 6505 may be more versatile ,don't know.going to check it out, i think the 6505 with reverb may be more suitable for me, but i have to say to eddy and fender great job guy's , love the amp'
The correct answer is both! You can get both for around the same price as one of their bigger brothers.
Hi Phillip, I am going for the 6505 mini. Can you please tell me if a Blackstar HT metal 4x8 8ohms 60 watts cabinet will work with it. Would really appreciate a response cause I am in Bangladesh and it is really hard to find sound advice and good amps here. Thanks
pretty sure as long as you connect it to the 8ohm input u should be good
Very cool!!! Great comparison. Hopefully I can find a local shop that will carry them. I would love to test both out. I'm very intrigued. Thank for the great videos as usual!! I always learn good info from your videos.
6505 Sounds a lot.... more crisp. And considering these are mic'd, the difference in person is probably more profound. I like the "brown sound" style the LBX has, but I prefer crispness for my playing (I can muddle my sound on my own, thank you very much).
Philip, when will you be testing the LBX Stealth?
Great review Phil. Cheers.
good review....though the Soldano comment confused me a bit...it's still the 5150 tone right?
Sounds awesome, which cab are you using here?
Is the LBX loud enough to play in live situation ??? back line job? i totally agree on comments, from the start of the vid my eyes where just drawn to the LBX looks more quality ! sounded beast ! i like running amps flat out, i just wish it had been 20 watts ! does it use same transformers as 50 watt ? 5150 combo 1x12 or LBX bloody spoilt for choice
So I went to Evh's website and this amp isn't on there, when is it going on sale?
They're officially getting announced October 6th, so give it two to three weeks.
It is on pre order on Sweetwater, American Musical Supply, and mcknightguitarco.com . They will announce it around the 6th and they will be in the stores couple weeks or sooner.
+Nathan Songné ok cool, thanks man . I have one final question how did you get a prototype or an early production model soo fast before they are being announced that's pretty cool
+Nick Hughes Phil can answer that question, I don't wanna out words in his mouth haha
I'm not sure if you had set the controls exactly the same on each head, but the EVH sounded abit more round/warm, whereas the 6505 seemed to cut alot more.
Personally, I tend to gravitate towards 'feature-less' stuff that does what it does, well. Sounds like the EVH does just that:-)
+Woodeso's Guitar Mods My Favored amp in the world has Two knobs, Well kinda four. Marshall 2061
+Phillip McKnight Phil will they do a mini stealth?
Zac6230 I haven't heard anything, but if they do it would be a while.
+Woodeso's Guitar Mods Well if you have a couple pedals or a flexible guitar, you don't need much in your amp except some great tones.
Great video! Two questions: 1) The LBX is not even on the EVH website yet - how did you get it so fast? 2) Do you have specs list for it? Can you show the back of the amp?
+pbeckster307 the next batch is hitting stores on or around the 23rd. I was able to get a small amount of the first ones. and I have another batch of them in a week. It should be updated on EVHgear.com If not we have specs on McKnight Guitar Co. facebook
I think the real question here is "Does the LBX's Blue and Red channels sound like the 50 watter?"
It's too bad peavey decided to dump so many features into the 6505 MH I think they could've made it USA for $500 if they kept it stripped down or offered better value at $350 MIC
I agree.
+Kelly Jackson Disagree. Once you start removing features it's becomes another one trick pony, another Marshall Class 5. I don't want anything that doesn't have multi channels and an effects loop. I don't care if its one watt or 100.
Kelly Jackson
I stand corrected. From the front, the LBX looked like a one channel amp. Never seen a channel switcher like it with just a switch and no extra knobs
Ultimately stripped down usually means compromised
Gotcha. I actually have a 6505+ of sorts so I'm familiar with the basic feature set.
I personally wouldnt use any speaker or mic simulations they throw in. To me, I don't think it adds cost. I think its just some computer chips they own the rights to and just want to sell it up.
The USB out might be awesome for someone who doesn't own an interface and has 0 clue how to mic an amp. I think the kids will like the 6505 minis.
The LBX head is a joke compared to the 50 watt and 100 watt version 5153 heads. TheLBX was so mid range heavy,it taken a good 20 minutes to dial it ,after jamming on it for another 20 minutes.I was still like meh. That's why if you watch the video again,you see that the guy in the video has the mids scooped and set very low.
Please, do this again with a sm57 and no camera sound.
Please no. Close micing gives a totally false impression of an amps sound.
A well placed, high quality room mic about 3 feet out in front of the amp will give a better representation of what the amp really sounds like in person.
I disagree. If you don't use a close mic you will ear the room of this recording...in your room this amp will sound totally different. Close mic will be closer to the amp character because it will capture less of the room and more of the amp.
Our ears are not shaped like an SM57 nor do they interpret sound like one.
And I don't play and listen to my guitars with my ear 1 inch off of the speakers.
ok. If your not interested in recording i can understand the argument.But If you record your guitars you'll will use a mic...so i think the best review of an amp would be to have a room mic and a close mic and A B the recordings...that will gives us both perspectives. Cheers
Absolutely! Agreed!
Cheers!
How do u remove all the hiss coming out of the amp? I can hardly hear any white noise.
Hey Phillip,Great Shoot-Out,I Have the 6505,I had to switch out some tubes to try to "TAME" the Lead Channel,As far as the HUGE Hi-Gain HUM,Inherent in a lot of Hi-Gain amps.,With just a little help from the noise Gate in my Digitech RP1000 that I have hooked up using the "4 Cable Method " (Really sounds GREAT as far as adding Effects,more control over EQ,Noise Gate functions,Expression/Wah pedals,PLUS the ability to Take the Modeled Amps/Speaker cabs,OUT of the chain,and only having the AMP/Speaker Cab you're using for the MAIN TONE,Without the Tone being Altered,or Sucked out , using the RPO1000 and the Change in tubes,I STILL get the Same Hi-Gain HEAVEN that was there before,Just without the HUM FROM HELL.. : ) The EVH sounds AWESOME,I Believe that after I get some NEW "TOYS" Paid off,I shall be purchasing one !,I think that the Hi-Gain Side of the EVH,Has GOT Me thinking that it has More Harmonics/less Bright Tone than the 6505,which is What I LIKE !!,although,some things you can overlook a bit because of the "EXTRAS" that Peavey gives you ,and the Price. BOTH KILLER AMPS,But,The EVH has more of the PRO,PLUG IN AND PLAY VIBE to it as you basically said . Thanks Again Phillip,...NICE Fat Strats,My Birthday is in MID- NOVEMBER,if You want to make a disabled gulf war Vet's Birthday,..LOL!! Just Kidding! GREAT VIDEO and INFO,I Just Subscribed and Keep the COOL Stuff COMING!! Bob Malin Glendora,NJ
Dothe couple extra watts on the Peavey really translate into more noticeable volume and/or headroom in your opinion?
Good review! The EVH LBX is a pretty cool amp. It's not in the same league as the Soldano Hot Rod 25 you mention late in the video though IMO. The Sodano Hot Rod 25 is insane. Just miles ahead of other lower wattage amps and many higher wattage amps.
Ass clown lmao
like the 6505 drive but....can it have more low end with the resonance knob no? (or its full?)
Solid review,well done!!!
Know this is am older video so you might now see this or get to it, but seeing that you're an EVH fan as well, I want to know what you think would be the best one to achieve that Live Right Here, Right Now tone. Its my favorite EVH tone by far and would like to get close to that in a little lunchbox amp. Would the EVH be better or the Peavey?
The Evh is awesome can't wait to get my hand on one
BTW Thank you for uploading this demo. :)
Features aside, I like the tone from the 6505 mini better. Then you get $200 off, more features and cheaper when replacing tubes. Only thing I can say, imo, the EVH has going for it is it looks cool but I don't give a shit about that if it's not performing. The EVH sounds great, don't get me wrong, the 6505 just sounds better for the tone I'm going for.
Great video but will you ever demo the Soldano Hot Rod 25?
Hi Phillip, I dig the comparison of these lunch box amps. If I had the means, I'd get as many as possible from these 2, along with ENGL Ironball, Mesa V 25, and even the Marshall DSL15. If there are other lunch box amps that are in the same league, it would be great to compare all of them in a video.
i have a Mark V 25 and I'm considering a second amp just to have some variety. do think that the LBX has a superior marshally crunch to what the mark v 25 can accomplish?
Cool video thanks :) My only complaint is that you ran the presence too low on the EVH red channel and that might give the impression that the amp is too dark for those that don't already use an EVH head. Cool playing though :)
The 6505 sounds more ...can i sayyy METAL
I agree. The solos he was doing on the lead channel with the EVH guitar sealed the deal. MAJOR difference.
Frankie Boots spot on
Hi Philippe,
indeed the 5150 overdrive is killer although I´m wondering if the burn channel of the 5150 is able to cut through in a band mix. It sounds that the 6505 has more mid frequencies in the lead channel, which much more helps in a context.
I usually use a Boss GT 10 in a 4 cable mode with different amps. It should be possible to use than a clean amp simulation of the Boss (or any other multi) to get a 3rd (clean) channel. Did you ever check that with the 5150?
The LBX sounds like it is inside a cupboard or under some blankets.
having played through both I can say that the peavey sounded noticeably better. the sound through a 2x12 was phenomenal.
Tone deff too?
Im sold on the 6505M.
Great amp indeed.
Very very great amp for sure !
What's the bridge pickup in the strat???
Pearly gates in the copper one. Tim Shaw in the blue one.
Phillip, is there a drastic jump in gain/ volume when switching between channels on the lbx similar to the 50 watt version?
phillip what pick up does u strats have
Nobody gives Randall amps enough credit....the Randall Diavlo RD 20H is the way to go if your going to go mini. Better tubes better sound....most mini heads sound just that...mini....the Randall sounds like one of the big boys. Check it out.
I will, I keep hearing good things. I use to sell Randall many years back and they were hit or miss. so it will be nice to see how far they have come.
I guess I just got lucky on mine.
What do you think of the Carvin mini heads V3m or the Legacy?
Late to the party but I have something to say. Dollar 4 dollar the PV 6505 MH quality is far better. I have both and the plus and an older 5150. I also use a Variac as did Eddy. The 6505 MH is my amp of choice for medium size and smaller gigs. I believe the PV MH is a far more pro then the LBX. I can't plug my LBX straight into my computer and that has value. Everything is subjective but in this case what you get for the price is far more with the PV. Demoing theses amps with a Strat is a bad idea. I would say most people that would be interested in theses amps would not be using a Strat.
What's your preference for cab with it?
I had the EVH111 50 watt and just couldn't get along with it, I got an Orange dual dark 50 which is just brilliant, I also have a 6505mh and it rules, it does not hum, does not sound at all fizzy (comments from below) I even had a very well known musician local to me borrow it and take some profiles from it he was that impressed. So not saying anything bad about the new EVH LBX, it sounded great, but that little Peavey is an awesome piece of kit for the money, made in China means nothing these days. Also had a much more expensive German made ENGL ironball which is another lunchbox head and the Peavey blew that away completely, so much so I sold the ENGL within days. thanks for the review Phil
+thehoppo Wow, I've got the Ironball and would've never thought the 6505 MH would even be close in terms of articulation and tightness. Getting rid of the fizz was a serious issue with the Ironball, lower the presence or 5751/12at7 in V2 takes care of that.
Would like to know where and how the 6505 MH shines above the Ironball?
+hadley101 actually I thought the clean channel on the ENGL was good, maybe edges the Peavey, but the gain channel was no contest, the ENGL gain channel in my opinion was just too tight and it had that issue that some lunchbox heads have where it sounds like the distortion is kinda sitting on the top of the rest of the sound and not actually a total dynamic full gain sound like a full sized head usually gives you. However mate, tone is very subjective, what sounds great to some sounds awful to others, one thing is for sure UA-cam videos no matter how well made, never really give you the real tone, only way is to go play something for yourself and hear it in person it always sounds different. Cheers,
+thehoppo As subjective as tone is we seem to be in agreement when it comes to the Ironball. The incredible tightness and note definition is what I love about the amp. Used to have a Marshall JCM 900 SL-X that I miss so for the sag and openness of the tone, been on a mission to find another one in good condition. Run the Ironball preamp through the EL34 output tubes would make my day, yes sir. Cheers!
+thehoppo I was looking at the 6505 mini, Ironball and EVHiii. Which one would you recommend?
+Arjun Kaul my personal preference is the Peavey, however best advice I can give you is to go and play through these yourself and decide which one you like the best
Phil... I just stumbled across this video. I didn't even know the EVH LBX existed until I was in your on-line store just now buying the thick pick pack and I saw it listed.
I have a bro, a former bandmate that I love to death. He's a gifted songwriter, guitarist and performer. However, when it comes to gear and dialing it in, he's a f*cking idiot. He blew up his Marshall SS head a while back and bought a POS Crate 3 channel SS head to replace it and he has never been able to figure out how to dial it in. When I was playing with him, I'd have to dial it in for him and then after he effed with it, I'd dial it back to where it needed to be when he was taking a break. He has no clue as to what the Fletcher Munson Effect is and would complain that his amp was changing tone during practices. So he'd just turn up louder making all go deaf. He could figure out how to just adjust his Eq to compensate, even after I showed him a dozen times because the Crate had too many "choices" on the front panel. He'd always turn the wrong knobs or hit the wrong switch on the footswitch controller that came with the amp. I'm thinking about picking up a used one for him now that these LBXs have been out for about a year (your vid is dated 10-2015).
My question to you is if they seem to be holding up fairly well? As you're a dealer, have you seen many warranty repairs come back on these? The reason I gave you the long story was to illustrate why the Peavey is not the solution for this bro of mine. Too many choices. He'd still eff it up and continue to deafen his current bandmates and piss off the FOH guy at the clubs and bars where his band plays. I'm willing to buy him one not because I'm rich (I'm not wealthy but I am blessed), but rather to help him out and as a public service to the city he lives in. lol
Hello Phil--thanks for all the great videos and your candor! I am thinking of purchasing the Peavey Mini simply because of the features and the price point. I wanted to know your personal option on which cab would pair with it the best. I typically play at home most of the time in my office/guitar room like yours and occasionally with some buddies if that helps. I imagine a 2x12 by EVH or Mesa would be a front runner but thought I'd ask you. Thanks!
The EVH 1x12 is a great cab in the under $500 price range and used you can save some money as well. I use Mesa boogies because I know I might changes heads from time to time but, I got sick of taking a bath on cabs. So I use Marshalls, and Mesa because they sound good and I do not care what head I put on them.
+Phillip McKnight thanks again Phil! Any feelings on the Peavey cabs?
+Ted Sanchez I personally use a Peavey Valve King 4x12 for live shows. For the price, they sound pretty good and are durable cabs. Though, it's always good to keep in mind that, for the most part, you get what you pay for and the speakers I'm the cab are just okay. and it's 16ohms only.
I get 80% of video sound to the left side when you play, did you mix it so?
6505 smokes it IMO
what about volume for band practice, both the same?
I checked both of these amps on a guitar store yesterday. I didn't like the distortion of the 6505 though but noticed something with the EVH. With the volume just above 9 o'clock on a 4x12 Marshall 1960 the tone was less juicy and with less saturation. Is it normal or it is because of the wattage. Thanks and keep up the good work!
yes, I notice the same. at higher volumes it losses something. I think it just can not push the lows at 15 watts. I still love it, but I do hear the same thing your talking about
+Phillip McKnight Does this thing happen to the 50w version or the 100w? I mean for recording you need a good amount of volume I suppose right? I would like to avoid that sort of breaking up.
The 50 has a tone of head room. I have not had any issues with it at high volumes
I checked the lbx on a matching 1x12 that happened to be on ear level. The sound was kind of bad. I know that high frequencies tend to be just in front of speaker but then where do we need to stand when dialing our tone on the amp? Thanks again.
EVH....the Peavey sounds great but I have a Boss 100 Katana w/58-pedals built in when I want something with all the bells and whistles that can dial in practically any tone including tube amps! I agree with Phil....the EVH is more a PRO, get it done amp! Thanks Phil!
I've just ordered a 6505 MH from Andertons. These both seem cool, but it's about £200 cheaper for the 6505 which has more features and just...honestly, it LOOKS nicer to me. I don't like how the 5150 LBX looks with the white, I think the Peavey will go better on my Marshall 1936 cab which is majorly important since neither of them will probably ever be used outside my study lol
Also, hello Bohdi from the future. :-)