Freelee's lies/delusion: She didn't get fat on Raw Till 4, nor did she suffer from metabolic damage
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- According to Freelee's own now-deleted blog, she didn't get fat eating a high carb, low fat vegan diet. And the little bit of weight she did gain was due to "cooked food abuse," not metabolic damage. Oh, and she lost the weight in just a few months.
Is she lying, or has she deluded herself into believing her own nonsense claims? The better question: When countless people like Julia Boer continue to hurt themselves based on Freelee's nonsense advice...does whether or not she's lying or delusional even matter?
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I'm pretty sure freelees metabolic damage bs was inspired by that mean girls scene where Regina George is gaining weight from eating protein bars and Cady is all like "yeah that's how the diet works, first you bloat and then you drop 10 pounds like that"
hahahaha omg yes
omg 😂😂
:D you are so right!
This comment made my day 😂
Hahahaha
A skinny figure and swollen cheeks are a sign of bulimia. Just throwing that out there.
True
why is that? I never heard of that fact...
I mean...if you look at her she seems to have gotten botox anyway, but besides that, I really noticed how she has full cheeks...
Most people with bulimia are average or above normal weight because you still absorb a lot of the calories even when you purge.
botox, not bulimia
I believe the reason behind the swelling is because of the glands involved in vomiting. When somebody vomits constantly, the glands thicken, ever waiting for the signal to throw up.
I used to be a militant freelee cult follower. Then one day I found her blog called "Sweet Juicy Freelee" where she posted what she ate and did (exercise, gym, yoga, etc.) everyday since around 2007/09. She was talking about how she lost weight very quickly and Freelee literally posted in detail about how she exercised up to 3 times a day!!!! I was so shocked my jaw dropped after I read her entire blog. I couldn't believe it. Needless to say, after I discovered the truth that Freelee exercised soooooooooooo much to lose her weight QUICKLY I immediately stopped following rt4 and I left the cult. The funny thing is shortly after I discovered her blog and posted about it Freelee quickly deleted it. I deeply regret not taking screenshots of it...
Rt4 is a scam. Freelee is a scammer. Till today there is NOBODY that has went from super fat to Freelee's size eating 2500+ calories a day and exercising "every other day" like Freelee claims. But there's enough ppl gaining tons of weight (I know I did when I followed it over a year ago) and suffering severe health problems too bad Freelee deletes and censors their comments of criticism.
OMG I didn't finish your video when I wrote this comment!!!!!!!! YESSS HER OLD BLOG THAT SHE DELETED ITS ON WAYBACK MACHINE THATS THE BLOG I SAW!!!!!
I love how you call it a cult. I used to be apart of it too, but i left because it wasnt good. That's all i can desrcibe it as is, "not good". It totally did feel like a cult.
what cult what ar eyou talking about...why your calling her lifestyle a cult..do you even know what a cult is?....you guys are ignorant
@@sergsfault Do YOU know what a cult is? Because literally one of the requirements from the BITE model is "controlling what people eat". Freelee does this, though in a very roundabout way. The diet she promotes, the one she very publicly believes EVERYONE should eat, is VERY restrictive and VERY controlling.
Then there's thought control. The withdrawal/control of information (hello, deleting her blog to hide the facts much), people getting in trouble for independent thought (She and her fanbase quite literally ATTACK anyone who disagrees with her. Half her videos are just her attacking people). You'd be surprised how much of the criteria for a cult she actually fits.
And if you don't go by the BITE model (though you should, it's the most official criteria out there) the definitions of the word as given by the dictionary are:
1.
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.
2.
a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society.
I get a strange vibe from freelee. All those bananas, her doing amsr, her incessant call-out videos, she always wears the same shirt. Just a lot of red flags.
Grrr... Go fruit yourself. I love Freelee. I don’t think she’s a medical professional or that we should be eating fruit all day but I still love her. Sometimes you can still adore someone even if they are having a mental break down that involves eating ten thousand bananas and then going to live in the rainforest naked. Defending her against the haters is like standing up for your super weird best friend when the gossip is going around. “Yes I know shes crazy but stop calling her that!”
Elicia Garcia GURL I AGREE
The others I agree with but ASMR is not inherently a bad thing. Totally get it is not for everyone and that's fair enough, but it has helped people like me with insomnia massively
@@sappho1887 I envy you! I've tried ASMR from so many different sources, and it just never does anything for me. 😭
I feel like some people are born unable to tap into (or psychologically access) whatever ASMR does for other people. 🤷🏾♀️
I've always liked Freelee's fun personality (even though I could never eat as many bananas as she does!) but even Freelee can't make ASMR that works for me.😢
@@eliciagarcia9411 you described it perfectly lol
I will NEVER forgive freelee! She promoted raw when I was first going vegan and I lost all my health following her EXPENSIVE and TOTALLY Unsatisfying diet and then had the nerve to discredit it overnight without apologizing to her followers. She will never apologize for anything because she is a ruthless business woman that will hide all her mistakes under the carpet without EVER saying sorry to people. She makes me sick!
She's the manipulator of the century. Her blind followers fund her BS.
I just wish Unatural Vegan would have as much gall to call freelee out as you have! Freelee is turning into a woowoo spiritual financial fraudster.
She is turning into Raven Starre
Don´t stay stuck on it, ultimatly, each of us is in charge of our body.
I too tried my best to follow her diet, but I quickely realized that eating fruits, fruits and lettuce with fruit sauces (because fat is "evil") just made me feel deprived. I felt shame for trying blending mango and tomatoe and not being liking it. I felt shame and guilt for liking savorey foods most, with salt and fat and spices in them.
I also struggled trying to gorge on 2500 minimum calories from fruit.
I then tried her hcrt4 and gained 10 pounds in 8 weeks (while not coming from restriction and already (or still) being overweight).
The most important thing is to listen to your body.
I am a slow burner. I feel best eating a low calories raw vegan diet with more fat (between 15-30%, depending on the day).
That´s how I feel happy and good in my body.
I also feel best when I only eat one meal a day late afternoon.
I think she is a fraud, but she aint the only one, in the food department, there are tons of them.
That´s why it is terribly important to listen to yourself first, because you know your own body better than anyone else.
I think it's lame and unethical to promote veganism mainly as a weight loss method.
Baba aka. KleineFichtl this comment aged well esp with all the “why I’m not vegan anymore” videos
Veganism can help with weight loss, but only if you do it correctly.
How is it unethical? It's still better for the person and planet
@@kitchenmumma7596 I don’t think they meant veganism as a whole being unethical. A lot of vegan channels I watch talk about the overall impact on our planet and promote that even if you don’t want to cut out all animals products from your diet, to at least cut back and also pay attention to non food related products and companies that have ethical practices (fair trade, fair wages, etc.) What is unethical is teaching impressional people “eat this super clean vegan diet to rid your body of toxins so you never gain weight.” It’s not practical and leads to extreme restriction. Learn to prepare vegan foods that you actually enjoy and eat them guilt free. Guilt free as in you are reducing harm to our planet.
@@GraceMariex3 totally agree with that perspective
I am so sick of Freelee and her dubious nutrition advice. It really scares me because my daughter, who went vegan with me last spring, follows Freelee. Hopefully as my daughter becomes more scientifically literate, she'll see through Freelee. I loathe the drama around Freelee, too. She's just not worth following.
Any update on your daughter?
Inquiring also on an update about your daughter
Extremely well done and well researched video as always. Staying on the logical and rational side with your videos, is always refreshing with all the pseudo science crap a lot of the vegan channels promote.
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yes! i love her professional and well put-together approach, so admirable!
Yes it was definitely professional how she "cared" about Jen Journey enough to make a video instead of addressing that issue offline with Jen and her family. Then totally avoids the issue with her death. Excellent form, Swayze.
Look up bulimia signs - chipmunk cheeks.
Seeing as that Freelee straight up LIED to her viewers about her weight loss and knowingly selling that to them, can't she get in trouble for that? I really hope so because SO many people have put their health in jeopardy because of her manipulation. I'd hate to see her get away Scott free.
We have people exposing her. ;)
Man, it frustrates me that she had that issue with Kayla Itsines a few years ago... Because now people are pointing fingers at Freelee. What goes around comes around.
she is also not a vegan. she is getting botox
Its up to you to do your homework; she didnt sell you anything, so shes not liable.
Even if she did, its a grey area and she will probably still not be liable.
Wrong, deliberately lying about this stuff can and will land you into legal trouble.
Most people do not know anything about nutrition and saying "do your homework" is such a stupid and shit thing to say.
There is a lot of conflicting information out there.
Saying you can eat unlimited calories from fruit and not get fat is a complete lie.
She was never fat and there are next to no real pics of her body back then. Any of those 3 or 4 old photos she has posted are grainy pics where her posture is bad and the one in the blue bikini has been proven to have been photo shopped or stretched. You would think in this day and age she would have literally dozens of photos of herself on file to use as proof. Very suspicious.
Wow I can't believe I tried to follow her diet plan. As a fat girl who wanted so badly to believe I could actually eat as much as I want and be healthy, I feel taken advantage of. I should have known.
Totally been there. :/ She really does take advantage of people who have body insecurities and slightly bad relationships with food. It's pretty sickening.
Many people did, and got extremely unhealthy, even hospitalized because of it. They are scammers that prey on vulnerable people for $$$.
Yeah. I don't want to totally demonize her because I do love being vegan and she helped me do that but I wish she wouldn't make these false claims because what if I had realized it was false and then just started eating burgers again?
I'm so happy I found Swayze's channel when I did. I was considering following the Raw 'Till 4 diet but Swayze turned me off the idea.
Don't feel bad she well 'they' Harley too got a lot of people. Hopefully their cult is dispersed especially since they've broken up.
As a person who studied biology.... The term "metabolic damage" makes me cringe soooooo much!!! Freelee is just the most misinformed person in the planet. You are right, anecdotes are NOT enough evidence to prove a point... Well, at least not in science.
Lol it’s ironic i had this same exact though just as i read this. Graduated in 2018 , a lot of “scientific” things said on UA-cam make me question if i wasted 3.5 years of my life
After I had my baby I gained more weight fatest I've ever been at 207 pounds. I was so desperate to lose weight. I was going to go vegan again and look to UA-cam to help me. Freelee was the 1st youtuber that came up. Watched at least 10 of her videos, almost started the 30BAD/Raw till 4 diet. Freelee had almost convinced me thank goodness I found your channel. Love your thoughts and perspective on veganism and how logical you are. Thank you!
Not logical enough IMO - she is still supporting "experts" like Dr. Greger. Still, in the ever raging battle against raw vegan lunacy she's definitely a positive force.
What's wrong with dr. Greger?
Yeah, what's wrong with his work?
psivana The word "bias" encapsulates my criticism perfectly.
Mike EnRegalia Oh, you think he's too biased to provide plant-based education or something? I'm just honestly curious, because I tend to share his info.
Kinda off topic but I think you're really nice and pretty
ew.. you have very low standards.
I'm not saying it in a way I'm attracted to her I'm a chick and straight so I was saying it as complement coz I think she's nice and pretty.
awww somebody is sensitive. you can't handle an opinion? get off the internet. i find her ugly. this makes you upset? too damn bad. 😘
Heather Hemler just stating MY opinion as well and that is I find her NICE and also PRETTY.
Also I find your personality very ugly. Have a nice day.
so you're saying only opinions that smell like roses matter? I'm allowed to think she's unattractive. you're allowed to think she's attractive. i feel just fine about myself. you people are sad.
Freelee may have been bulimic in those old videos! Explains the chubby cheeks!
I just want to pinch her cheeks !
it happens from binging on carbohydrate.
Victoria Chii water weight/swelling in the face? I feel like thats more of an excess salt thing but idk
I was on a completely salt free diet for 2 years when it happened to me. 1g of carb holds 4g of water so if consumed in excess, could lead to extreme water retention. this is seen regularly when people who fast re-feed.
Victoria Chii salt free for two years, my god, did your muscles cramp up??? I had no idea about the carb thing though, mainly because im not educated in nutrition but good to know freelee's diet plan has once again been de-bunked hah
I LEGIT THOUGHT THIS WAS DREW (Mytoecold) WTFFFF
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SAME!! HAHAHA!
Maybe they're distant relatives?!
Lol I did too!!
Omg! Hahaha I love them both!! Quality YT content from these two.
I put on 10 kilos on the raw til 4. I went to balanced vegan with moderate portions and lost it in a few months. Greetings from Sydney, Australia.
I only recently found your channel, it's like reaching a green field of fact and objectivity, after trawling through a trench filled with pseudo-scientific mud. Weird metaphor, but you get it.
I hope..
She's the only rational voice on vegan UA-cam.....
+The Ethical Omnivore because she encourages 'ethical' omnivorism and makes you feel good about your bad habits(paying people to enslave,rape and torture animals)? fuck outa here 😂
TechGuy No, because she's not a crazy conspiracy theorist, bullshit peddling extremist and if i was going to be convinced by someone to go vegan it would be by someone rational like her and not some scientifically illiterate flake like Freelee and the vast majority of other vegan youtubers.
that is a fantastic way to put it xD
Her claims never made any sense, even with her embellishments. She always claimed to come from a past of being "overweight" and having lost, what, 40 lbs? If you add that number to her current weight, it doesn't give an "overweight" weight. Not to mention the picture where she's in a blue bikini that she keeps bringing up to show how very fat she used to be, and yet even though she's stretched that picture horizontally, she still looks like she's at a perfectly healthy weight in it.
Anyway, maybe you already mentioned it, I've only watched half of the video so far lol. Watching the rest, now.
EDIT: Done watching. I just wanted to add that I'm glad that you don't demonize her (or anyone, really) for this.
she lost 25 pounds. max.
she once said she lost 40 kilos which is about 80lbs. Lmao.
K CH she also said it took her 4 years before she even saw a shift in weight loss lol. I call bulllshitttt
Agree. the fact of matter is she's an orthorexic who's always been thin if not as thin as now, but certainly never fat or overweight. some of her earliest videos overlap with the period she claims to still have been chubby and she's anything but in them. she's just as lean as she is now. She's a dangerous fraud. I look at Julia Boer getting fat and unhealthy on her diet and it just makes me sick.
She's just pushing her eBook and trying to defend against people's weight gain when they adopt her "unlimited calories" BS. Don't worry, more people will speak up and make videos about her. ;)
I've had people call me fat. I'm 5'2" and 110 pounds. I'm like "yeah ok". The fact that freelee ever thought she was fat is ridiculous.
flat earthers gotta stop... just stop
IT'S TIME TO STOP!!!
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The earth is a flat circular plane research it and be prepared to have ur mind blown!
yeah but don't forget your tinfoil hat before! (just in case)
***** I made a flat earth debunking video on my other channel so no I am not impressed
I also came across Freelee and 30bad early on when they were fully raw. I agree she was always skinny! I didn't last long on 30bad before she banned me for questioning her pseudoscience. She was saying things like "cooked food is dead food" that cooking food kills the plants digestive enzymes which our bodies need to digest our food. But anyone who's done high school biology should know that we have our own enzymes for digesting food which are site specific, meaning they only work in certain areas of the body under specific conditions and we have lots of different enzymes which all work in different areas of our body. The enzyme amylase works in our mouth where it is slightly alkaline, pepsin works in the acidic conditions in our stomach, when we swallow amylase and it hits our stomach it becomes denatured 'dead'. So obviously the enzymes in plants will be suited to certain plant conditions and will denature in our acidic stomach. Also why would plants evolve to digest themselves when they get eaten? That doesn't make evolutionary sense as it doesn't benefit the plant in any way to help it survive. That was too much logic for Freelee and I was banned. Then I came across her again years later and she's eating cooked food! Oh the irony!!!! lol
I really appreciate everything you do for this community here on UA-cam. I hope you never stop. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I stumbled upon this video again and wanted to thank you. When I was going vegan I was struggling with binge eating that was turning into bulimia (not that I'm now cured I'm actually in recovery process) and was pretty desperate to lose weight and was convinced by Freelee's videos until I saw your video about why you don't eat Raw till 4 and you pretty much saved me from destroying my mental state even further... Thank you so much if it weren't for you who knows where I'd be right now...
Freelee’s premise is correct though. It is a well-known fact that if you go on a starvation diet and then suddenly start eating again you will *temporarily* suffer rebound weight.
absolutely! but the difference between "eating" again, and "stuffing yourself with unlimited carbs" is quite a difference... eating to satiation will definitely cause weight gain after extreme calorie reduction: because the body is like "HEEEY calories, there you are! we MISSSSED you so much... i'm gonna hug you and never let you goooo!" haha no but seriously... that is what happens. This is why weight gain occurs after dieting, hence: one should not restrict calories too much! The rt4 weight gain from months of overfeeding is a whole different scenario. It's just day in day out overfeeding after the initial weight gain from dieting has occurred, and then the gain just continues... i am all for eating to satiety and do not believe in restriction when one is hungry... but rt4 really is a different beast, especially considering the macro ratios being off. Personally speaking, i go insane if i only eat carbs with litttttle amounts of fat and protein. i like soy fat and protein... it keeps me much more stable than 30 bananas ... 🤢
In a recent vlog of Freelee, her and her mom were promoting Black Salve for cancer treatment... 😐
She should change her channel's name to "I F*cking Love Pseudoscience!"
I have used it twice for skin cancer and it absolutely works but it will scar you...
don't you get those chip munk cheeks if you purge a lot?
I've just looked on Durianrider's patreon page. 5 patrons and $26 a month. Ouch.
The flat earth movement is so dumb, I can't even...
Thanks Swayze for making this video. Hopefully people following Freelee's diet will see this video and reconsider taking Freelee's diet advice considering the majority of it is based on lies. I appreciate that you made this video, glad more people are being exposed to this.
I hope you can watch my follow-up video (my newest one). It was a response to your video: "Vegan blood on vegan hands". Jen's family have requested that you take down your two videos on Jen Journey out of respect to their young cousins. Please check Jen's aunts original video.
I think she even lies about her calorie intake.
I think Freelee is sick. I think she is obsessed with her body image and needs support. I hope she finds it.
Perhaps Freelee was in an abusive relationship and he made her believe she was fat etc
Noo... She totes the "I was overweight before too!" to sell her eBook.
Oh my god, you look like the cute version of Velma from the live action Scooby Do, so there's that lol
5 years ago, there were very few UA-cam channels about the raw vegan diet. I struggled to find vegan videos that were inspirational and drama free as there was a lot of fighting going on between vegan UA-camr's from the start. I always believed that Freelee had lost a lot of weight and watched some of her videos for inspiration but passed on most of the click bait/ call out videos. The botox is her choice, although not a healthy one in my opinion. If it's true that she has never had any real weight loss sucess then all the reasons I had for staying subscribed to her channel never really exsisted . Sad.
Love you debi!
In the vein of how it's hard to understand why some people believe ridiculous conspiracy theories... I highly recommend the episode "A light touch and a slight nudge" from the podcast Benjamin Walker's Theory of Everything. He interviews a psychologist/science writer who sheds light on the psychological reasons why even totally absurd conspiracy theories can appeal and make sense to large groups of people.
Thanks for the video as always.
Future dermatologist here, her cheeks are indeed a result of fat pad displacement caused by the aging process. I don't know why people are saying she's bulimic.
Christopher Holmes As a future dermo, what is your opinion of the fact that her face no longer looks like that?
Christopher Holmes a symptom of bulimia is swollen cheeks due to the salivary glands being over used. They are saying her cheeks were chubby because she was vomiting.
This was awesome! A video that really needed to be made. I love listening to you, and you've given me really solid, no bullshit information upon becoming vegan. I fell for the "eat all teh calories!" hype too, but then when I gained weight I was like wait...this doesn't make sense...!! I agree with you about Freelee too. I do think she cares about the animals and I've seen her evolve over time. She definitely seems a bit more chill now.
"Does it really matter if she's delusional or lying?" Absolutely. You can forgive someone who is wrong. Someone who lies to get people to damage their bodies and health for clicks and money- that's unforgivable, at least until they stop doing it and try to make it right.
Are you a poacher? Cause you just fired shots at the Cheetah!
He's wounded but he will survive.
OhNoBob freelee is the poatcher
That guy is a pos racist, bigot. Who is on drugs again and ripping people off for money .
Have flat earthers never been on a plane? They hurt my head
they're like many smartasses....appearently we're all fooled by the governemt or some company that tries to get rich with our money...as if money was actually that relevant. I get that people want to be rich, but trying to keep a whole society poor so they can have another couple billions on their account seems useless...what are they going to do with their money? people want to be heroes and help and get attention and be recognised...they don't care that much about money, but about what the money makes out of them... these theories most of the time are bullshit...
***** no, but you can see the horizon and ships dissapearing on it...if you go after them a little more you can see the tip of the ship again. so yes, you can see the curve
***** oh so that's the point you're making...that it doesn't depend if you're on a plane or on the ground, you can see the curve of the earth in one or another way.
+Hodge Boxer haha I was talking about how there is two ways you can get to places, like Australia to Europe you can go over Asia or America, that wouldn't be possible if the earth was flat cause you'd have to go under it? Makes no sense
***** that's actually kinda funny...
first time I've watched your channel, liked your thought process, enjoyed your voice
Thank you heaps for your videos as I find them so informative
Honestly, I can't watch Harley's videos for more than 30 seconds. I don't know how people can waste time with so much bullshit
So early there's no dislikes. That's a rarity.
+1 subscription.
I'm not Vegan myself but I find your content informative.
I enjoy your humour and dry yet warm personality.
There is a question that folks have been asking...
What are vegan views about the consumption of.. 'male nutrients' ?
Odd question but valid.
Anyhow, great job
Hi I am new to the vegan community. I started on the RT4 at the beginning of June-16 after watching a Freelee video about getting rid of cellulite. I found the concept interesting, but difficult because I was not a fruit lover, anyways started my RT4 journey. I was 215 lbs, I was on blood pressure medicine. In April I was diagnosed pre-diabetic with an A1C of 5.8. I recently went back to the doctor, my A1C is 5.1, I have lost 40 lbs and I am not longer on blood pressure medicine.
I don't know if it was the diet or the fact that I started working out (thanks to Freelee's motivation also) or the fact that I got some hormones I was deficient on namely (Thyriod hormone, progesterone, DHEA, and pregnenolone) but something really did changed my body and health. Right now I am not losing any more weight. Therefore, I will decrease my fruit consumption and eat more vegetables, greens, and nuts and see how that impacts my body.
Omg, you are so easy to watch (not in a bad way), I'm new here, instantly loved your personality ❤️
The whole metabolic damage thing is crazy. I was anorexic in high school and gained a healthy amount of weight when I recovered. I didn't balloon up and then lose the weight doing the same thing. It makes no sense that you would suddenly lose weight doing the same things you did when you gained weight without an underlying disease. It literally goes against science. Freelee simply exercises a lot. If you gain a ton of weight rapidly like Julia Boer has, your diet and/or exercise isn't working unless you are discovered to have hypothyroid or something. It's common sense.
I'm so glad you brought this up because it's been bugging me. I never thought she was fat or at least huge. She looked average in most of her videos and it used to bug me that her and Duriander were commenting about how fat she looks in this video or another. I did notice her cheeks being big but they look like that even in her 30s. Some people who are bulimic get this affect....not saying she was but that used to be my suspicion and she's said she's had eating disorders in her past.
You r just awesome!! (I think this after every of your videos) The voice of reason in this crazy and mad community.
can we please appreciate how many vids swyze uploaded lately ? xD
+ thanks for shouting out SheThrowsSHADE cuz she is amazing
I believe that many flat-earthers don't really believe in their claims but are either trolling or trying to encourage people to not blindly follow what they're told and prove their beliefs.
I love your videos. I love how well thought out and researched they are. It's really awesome to see someone who isn't to health and a vegan but actually looks into things and doesn't just believe in the pseudo science bullshit that people put out there
Lol the shade thrown at drama channels at 7:00
One can only speculate what she meant there.
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Let me be clear: I don't think it's wise to eat unlimited calories to "cure" metabolic damage. BUT, if you read any of the recent (in the past year or two) articles written by doctors who SPECIALIZE in metabolism, hormone balances, etc., you'll find that they DO conclude people's metabolisms are totally screwed after yo-yo dieting. ANY TIME YOU LOSE WEIGHT YOUR METABOLISM SLOWS DOWN...and the only ways to combat that are to build MUSCLE while watching your calories, and possibly taking a supplement like Green Tea. It takes the body a long time to recover from extreme metabolic damage due to starvation based diets - Freelee is right about that. But, her solution of eating unlimited carbs is unsupported in science.
That happened to me...when I was younger I could eat as much as I wanted and stay thin until I did an extreme diet and after that I had to eat little to weight the same I weighted before the diet
7:06, (cough, cough) "vegan cheetah" (cough, cough).
Yeah that was funny
Lol, yup.
Great video, as always. I just had to comment, you have been absolutely glowing through your pregnancy! Beautiful!!
If you are drinking orange juice for breakfast, dates and water for lunch, and some beans and sweet potato for dinner YOU HAVE AN EATING DISORDER!
yup i've been around the vegan online community since 2009 i followed her blog and read her forums on raw sites and saw her earliest videos. i was shocked when they started promoting raw to 4 freelee hated cooked food and criticized others for eating grains and cooked food. i remember she ate only fruit for weeks and since she had been in the public eye she hasn't been fat at all
Do more videos on recent Freelee!!! She’s batshit crazy!!!!! But this is also so sad. She’s the reason I tried low fat high carb and raw lifestyles as well, I almost passed out after following one of her smoothie recipes. This was after I had already introduced myself to the lifestyle. After a trip to the ER I found out later it was because there was too much sugar in the smoothies.
I wish people would launch class action lawsuit against Freelee.
@@mroctober3657 No kidding, coming back to this comment over a year later I feel I should state that I had issues with insulin resistance and followed her advice anyway because I was dumb enough to think "fruit sugar was not bad, and could heal you". Those aren't her words exactly but it's pretty close to what she says. I just hope young women no longer come across her videos without being recommend ones like this.
@@egohrftw I think for Freelee the wheels are starting to come off the cart. The next ten years probably won't be too kind to her and she'll become a good advert why people should steer clear of that eating style.
Anyway, you came outta the darkness and moved into the light so all's well that ends well.
@@mroctober3657 Well said! There isn’t much data out there to understand the long term effects of her diet. Time will tell.
LMFAOOOOO
Really glad you made this video! I used to follow freelee but then stopped when I realized her information was lacking facts
what was your posting handle on the vegsourse raw board? I used post on it way back between 2000 and 2008.
Fishy Freelee... While Harley is a straight up mythomaniac, Freelee is one of those liars who either screws with the truth or just avoid tell the "whole story".
My boyfriend would probably say I've had a little unhealthy obsession with her from the start, but only because I knew she was not sharing all vital information about her physique and how she got there. Yes, I unfortunetelly fell for her trick and gained weight, even though I didn't have ANY past of ED or whatever they blame it on.
You don't have to dig deeper than to her current blog to see that she's fitness-obsessed, and that she does more training than she makes us believe.
I completely stopped believing anything she said when during a period Freelee and Harley were all like "look at our Strava - we don't do much training!". So I looked at Freelee's strava account and it looked like she wasn't biking much, and presumably was telling the truth. Harley however, do bike more than the average person has time with.
But Harley kept uploading vlogs of them BOTH on DAILY morning rides, which he linked to a strava activity - which proved the vlogs were up-to-date (we know how much these two likes to upload old shit). Guess what, Freelee didn't link shit to her Strava! But there's several video proof of her joining on his everyday rides. Already there, she's not honest with us about how much exercise she does. She's also not honest about how she gets her flat stomach. It's not from biking guys, it's physically impossible to build the type she has by just biking. She does daily core exercises.
I wish Freelee could just be completely honest about everything. We can handle it. But I don't think we'll ever hear a complete truth come out of that mouth of hers.
Freelees training is a joke
She rides her bike a few k"m a day and does a few squats
Her flat stomach is from her diet only
Could be she was always thin and lying about it to sell her books
But her exercise is a joke
I've never seen you looking happier than you are now!
Good bit of investigative journalism. Thanks for bringing this to our attention
I never heard of Freelee or Durrian until I found your channel. Wow, kind of wish I still didn't know about them! Also, I really hope your laptop doesn't burst into flames!
Girl your skin looks great! And I'm loving the haircut on you to. Keep up the good work.
I don't get all the labels. why can't people just be vegan? i don't care what kind of vegan people are. as long as you're not contributing to hurting animals, who cares?
this was really interesting and even a bit frustrating. i´m on that lifestyle (a mix from raw till4 and starch solution) for over a year. i come from the same background like freelee (eating disorder). Like you said accordingly what freelee said, i also gained a few kilos ( i guess 9-10). Right now i´m trying to loose them for over a year. i was really patient with my body, because i believed, the reason, why i don´t loose the weight in the moment is the metabolic damage that i got from my eating habits in the past. but like you said, if the metabolic demage is a lie... than: WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY BODY? :,((( I feel terrible since i gained all the weight. but i thought ok i have to except that, it will go away someday. but in over a year, i didn´t lost at least one gram on that lifestyle. what do you think is the reason? what can i do?
I'm new to your videos and want to commend you for how measured, fair and intent on accuracy your content is. I really appreciate what you're doing for the vegan community, I'm glad we have people like you to provide a voice of reason and sanity.
Please just say body dysmorphia instead of delusion. It's not like we choose to see our body different to how it is. The brain hijacks the image and alters it, it's not just like we see our bodies the way other people say it and think that we're fat because we're assholes. There's nothing you can do to force seeing your body the way it is, even now at my best I still have to poke and push my face to trick my brain into showing me reality.
I'm no fan of Freelee but if you're going to attempt to diagnose her mental state it wouldn't kill to do some research.
Body dysmorphia is a type of delusion though, is it not? Do you think people with delusions "choose" to have them?And like, I have body dysmorphia. The difference is that I would never go on youtube and tell people that my 5'10 154lb body is "fat", even if I see it that way. I wouldn't say that I could relate to the struggles of overweight and obese people and give them advice on the basis that I was once like them.
Lauren Wittmer The difference between delusion and body dysmorphia is very real. Delusion is believing something in spite of evidence to the contrary; body dysmorphia is an illusion, meaning the brain distorts the image before we can comprehend it.
And fact is, body dysmorphia is a mental illness people can go their whole life without recognising or being diagnosed with. It is, in fact, severely undiagnosed. The only reason I know I have it is because the hypomania from my mood disorder cancelled it out (before my mood stabilisers) so I know what my body actually looks like from those times, but I still can't tell if a picture of me is bad or it's the dysmorphia. It's not unbelievable to imagine that she suffers to some degree and actually believes she was fat because of a distorted self-perception.
However, it's impossible for us to know unless she is seen by a psychiatrist or psychotherapist and officially diagnosed. This is all speculation. It's just worth learning what mental illness you're referring to before accusing her of it.
Do you not understand what the word delusion means? By saying delusion it doesn't mean that the person just chooses to deny or see their body (or whatever the subject matter is) in a skewed perception because they are assholes like you said. Delusion literally means having a skewed perception of reality. The word delusion fits pretty well. I think Swayze refrained from saying that it was specifically body dysmorphic disorder because it's never a great thing to do to straight up diagnose someone when you don't have all the facts and aren't a professional.
Jo Molly Delusion is a psychological term. You should probably research body dysmorphia before you make a video about it.
Being Delusional is not a choice, either. Just as Body Dysmorphic Disorder is not a choice
It's pretty obvious that Freelee got plastic surgery on her face.
I'm not understanding the significance of her claiming a 2006 blog entry was from 2009. Can someone explain?
Metabolic damage isn't a lie. And it is proven that raw foods are very, very healthy. It is proven they heal in a different way than cooked food. Although, many people have had amazing results eating a combination of raw and cooked foods on what they call a clean diet. People even eat healthy eating meat, so it can be super confusing sometimes when it comes to food.
I get the feeling that after so long in a relationship with someone who comes across as emotionally controlling to say the least, and his intense focus on Freelee's looks and body, it seems as though she has internalised this. Maybe she doesn't think people will be interested in her if she doesn't show her body or sexualise her videos. It's really sad.
Tim Shieff said it disproves God in a way, to say that the Earth is round. So there you go, that's where flat-earthers and anti-gravity people get their motivation from, religion.
I don't believe in gravity..... now I'm floating about my room......... honest.
Sorry but Isaiah 40:22 says the earth is round. Don't blame "flat-earthers" on religion. Blame it on what it is, straight up ignorance.
Isaiah 40:22 doesn't say the earth is a globe. It says it's a circle and a circle is flat. That's their response to that.
Only because there wasn't a Hebrew word for globe or sphere. So if that's their argument it's pretty weak. If God, who divinely inspired the words written in the Bible, can see enough of the Earth to know that it is "round", it stands to reason that He also has the ability to see isn't flat. If Earth were flat it would seem to make more sense to describe it as a valley not as being round.
There is a Hebrew word for globe. It's the same as circle. So this verse using circle is more a reflection of the translators point of view then the original writers. I personally don't believe the earth is flat. I was just giving you there argument. You can't argue with a bible interpretation because you can always find a verse to contradict the one you are arguing.
Thank you for this video :)
Btw I'm happy I stumbled on your channel. You touch on hot topics while still being a drama free- level headed. that is so rare now for youtubers. Kinda like Stephanie Nicole but instead of makeup you do this.
In my opinion Freelee definitely looked way healthier in her old videos with her chubby cheeks. She was still thin but very in shape. I know she’s older now but she looks unhealthy to me, looks older than her years and very thin now, almost too thin.
Interesting how Freelee is putting out all of these videos now bashing former vegans, calling them liars, going through all their videos and claiming they were eating meat earlier than they claim there were .. blah-blah-blah .. and it appears she was doing the same thing with her diet, exercise and weight loss claims.
EurAsiaNikki thanks for your reply! For some reason, I wasn't able to directly reply so I hope you get this! I hope you are right because I was wondering if people might think that metabolic damage doesn't exist at all, but having watched the former contestants on the tv show "The Biggest Loser", metabolic damage does appear to be a real thing. However, I don't remember the UA-camr I watched, maybe it was Vegann, who said that they book about restricting calories that happened with the "starving volunteers" that happened around WW2 were able to overcome metabolic damage in only two weeks. I thought that Unnatural Vegan, who I love and adore, by the way, said that there's no such think as metabolic damage. Perhaps, as you said, she is only referring to Freelee's diet and not in general. Just curious!
Why do people take for granted that Freelee and Durianrider eat as much as they claim they do? I think both of them consume the same amount of calories as they burn. Some days they are probably on a deficit. This is the real reason why they are so slim. In Durianriders "What I eat in a day" videos you can clearly see that he doesn't eat that much.
I love that people have so little in their lives that they have feuds on youtube and point fingers at each other and this is their small tiny little life
The Vegan Cheetah saved his dad's life by giving him a kidney. VC is an entertainer, it's supposed to be funny.
First off - I love this video. Secondly, raw foods are really good for people. Plus, having one healthy and cooked meal at night is very good for you and satisfying. With the amount she exercised (I see in comment below), it is very possible she lost 2.5 lb. a week. I do believe she's experienced extreme healing. Raw food is amazing, and home cooked simple dinners are way better than processed foods. For years on end, I've had the kind of figure that can look super thin - but it's always an up and hill battle between looking in shape while also needing to lose a lot of fat on my body. I've really had to conquer my food choices - and I am looking forward to my best life as every day gets better as I eat raw. However, I would recommend working with a physician and making sure you are healthy & getting all your necessary nutrients.
Also the chipmunk cheeks with a thin or average weight are a sign of bulimia. It's most likely that is what she had. It's sad she had that but I'm angry she won't be honest about it
Harley is a textbook cult leader.
How can you just ignore how much you hurt Jen Faulisi's campaign hastening her Death and hurting her family. When will you apologize?
I'm confused; what does she need to apologize for? She just made a video stating her opinion.
I don't agree with UV's position but harassment is not the answer. I'm a little disturbed by all the Jen comments here. Jen's Aunt's (I guess) video was taken down by UA-cam for harassment and bullying. I think there is a lesson in that for you, and others.
It's been proven that Jen's donations were going up until the release of UV 's video. Then they just stopped. AND ppl were harassing a Dying woman! There is a direct cause and effect here. And the video is still up so UV is still making money off Jen's name! Not my opinion , Jen's families opinion as well. Not my problem if you don't see how disgusting that is. It's no one's business what a dying person wants to do to try to stay alive. And UV has many many facts about Jen WRONG.
mmk
How can you spread the outrageous lie that UV stating objective fact about Gareson somehow "hastened" Jen's death?
If YOU think the treatments worked, why didn't YOU donate?
You are pathetic and should be ashamed of yourself.
What do you think about high starch diets? I know you have commented on Dr. McDougal before about fat is not what you wear.
I have tried eating more starches, like potatoes and carbs through grains like pasta, but I tend to gain weight easily doing this. If I had to speculate, it is probably due to eating more than a standard serving, because I don't feel full eating like that. Even if I eat some with beans, lentils or veggies.
Are there certain kinds of starches that the body processes better for energy and less defined as simple carbs?
Freelee started her Patreon so she could get a tax break on the donation.
Ouch! I actually feel like this might be bad timing! It seems like Freelee is in a sort of crisis, right now. Maybe that makes it good timing, though. Time for change!
She might be, but she has to take responsibility for her actions
+Skylark for sure. I feel for what she went through with harley, no one deserves that and I did always suspect there was an emotional abuse aspect there. that's just the vibe I got watching them interact. but now she's getting a bit of a taste of her own medicine with him defaming her, from someone who's even better at it than her, from someone who she just can't bully away and it probably doesn't feel too good to be on the receiving end for a change. hope she realizes that.
The earth IS flat....this is not a belief it is a conclusion. Once when I flew to Australia I arrived standing erect and the plane landed on it's wheels. If the earth were a globe ( lol ) I would have arrived upside down on my head and the plane would have crash landed on it's roof. It is simple physics. Duh.
wow, I’m convinced, will tell my physics teacher, thanks
I think you need to go back to high school lmao
Charlie Flat earth denial is laughable and will ultimately lead to the destruction of our planet.
***** Finally somebody with my awesome level of intelligence...you might also want to explain to your teacher that there is no such thing as gravity. If he insists, ask him to show you some gravity....this works every time.
000 Impossible...I went to High School in the 90's and everybody knows that things that happen in the past are carried away on Earth's bionic plates and now exist millions of miles in the distance of the flat earth plane.
I don't understand though. Why would she lie and claim her weight loss journey took LONGER than it did? Wouldn't someone who wanted you to try their diet do the OPPOSITE? As in, claiming it took them only a few months to lose weight when it took longer, just to get you to follow their diet? The entire reason so many people DON'T follow her diet plan is because she says it will take years to get results and no sane person will wait that long.
when I was eating high carb, I had the exact same face edema. I had fasted for 8 days prior and my face blew up and retained water for 2 years until I lowered my carbohydrate intake. 1g of carbs holds 4g of water, and if you aren't burning up those excess carbs, they suck up water like a sponge.
Pretty good video, although I do believe metabolic damage is real to some extent, definetally not 6 years tho.
Theres a study on metabolic damage using biggest looser contestant.
I think freelee needs to be more clear about the unlimited calories vs not restricting otherwise shes great
I was looking forward to another one of those Satanic Freelee thumbnails ;)
Wow... I came back to your channel after a year or so and... You are so beautiful now! Can't believe it... What did you do? I'm impressed how much you have changed to the positive in your outer appearance. You're so pretty! :)
The video of Freelee's that bothers me the most is the one where she discusses starch diets versus raw till 4. I watched this right after I became vegan, and I followed her religiously. I also became sick (still am) after becoming vegan. Essentially, I have to be careful with what I eat because of my digestion. I ate mostly fruit when I first became vegan, and watching this video made me never want to go on the starch solution. Even though fruits made my stomach cramp and my digestion was very poor, I followed it for a few months. I called in sick from work so many times that I almost lost my job. Her advice is so straight forward and black and white it doesn't take other people's lifestyles and personal issues into consideration. Thankfully, I follow the starch solution now, and I've been getting better. I don't hate freelee, but I wish she would be more open minded that raw till 4 isn't for everyone. it works for some, but not everyone.