A Terrible Vegan Insults This 32-Year-Old Lady
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2019
- In case it isn't clear, this is a response to "Jenna Marbles Is A Terrible Vegan...?" by Freelee.
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14:16 Something I forgot to mention: there are plenty of non-graphic, happy images and videos that can help you feel more connected to farm animals (e.g. Esther the Wonder Pig, Crouton the Cow, the dodo)
Unnatural Vegan thank you so much for making this video. She loves your channel and I hope she understand we are all in support of her (Jenna’s) life🌸
Just so you're aware, the Dodo is run by PETA
I was about to write exactly the same!! Such accounts helped me a lot when I first became vegan
Hank the pig is my favorite insta!
Yea Ive been vegan for 7-9 years I think, but just recently I purchase Magnesium Supplements that CLAIM to be vegan online, but when I got them they were vegetarian....I noticed this AFTER a few days of supplementing with them. It happens Freelee.
But in all reality, Jenna HAD to kinda know lol I mean " CHICKEN Ramon Noods" ...come on lol I love her tho
This is the lady who made an hour-long video of her crying and apologizing because she put a tiny fish in a rounded aquarium. Leave Jenna alone she's so pure.
Lissie please she really is the sweetest 😫😩
And excellent at giving her hamster the most possible.
THANK YOU! SHE’S AMAZING AND KIND.
Ugh! That’s not purity.. that’s ridiculous. Good grief.
@@calliecalista184 This. She's an adult. There was no reason to carry on like that about something so trivial/essentially beg forgiveness of a bunch of fucking strangers. It was bizarre and immature.
Freelee: Honey is bad for your teeth
Also Freelee: drinks 2 litres of orange juice with coconut sugar for breakfast
Christina yes!!!
@@tinmanluver35 I mean, she even says how sugar (even refined sugar) isn’t bad for you 😂
Honestly... seeing her put that heaping tablespoon of sugar into her juice/smoothie was the last straw I needed go convince myself that this woman really is insane... 😂
No really. If you become so desensitised to the taste of your food like... don't you think it's time to cut back on the fruit?
I can’t even imagine how bad Freelee’s teeth are after consuming so much sugar >.
Really hahahah. Oh my. I feel I lost some braincells just by reading this comment thread about what this woman is saying / doing. So glad i don't know her videos 😅☺
The AMOUNT of people who went vegan while Julien was slowly going into veganism is insane. They don’t have to make videos on convincing people. They tell us why they choose the lifestyle and MOTIVATE PEOPLE
Exactly. I honestly would not go fully vegan but thanks to them I would consider making some changes to my diet once I could afford it
To be honest, watching their videos, made me feel more motivated to move towards a plant based diet. I was looking at them and was like, oh look, their food looks tasty and not boring or stuffy.
Just so you know! You can eat a vegan diet for SO cheap. it does get more expensive when you add in the replacement type stuff but I ate a more whole foods vegan diet for under 75 a month! and I had a huge variety of foods as well ☺️ if you want to you’ll find a way! and there are so many amazing people promoting cheap ways to eat vegan as well ☺️
@@grosspillow its hard to eat vegan cheap while still staying cruelty free tbh
@@lightsoutdarlings1222 what do you mean while still staying cruelty free?
Banana chick: “Honey is bad for your blood sugar!”
Also banana chick: “Don’t be afraid of sugar! Sugar is your friend!”
Right!! Banana brain diet consist of pure sugar cause all she eats is fruit! Even though it’s natural sugar it’s A LOT of sugar and wayyy more sugar than anyone should be consuming!
I'm still losing my mind over that. No diet should consist of that much sugar with so little proteins and fats to balance it out. I mean... she must be getting SOME protein to get so fit right?
@@decembervyne6541 She's not fit, she's scrawny. It's easy to pedal a bike when you weigh nothing.
Doesn't she eat like 20 bananas a day? Like that's healthy...
@@KFrost-fx7dt no it's not lol
1) Jenna was vegan before it was trendy
2) Jenna and Julien are the two LEAST problematic UA-camrs on this platform like who would even go after them?
Someone with no soul.
Rachel Anne right 🤧
Someone who always feels self righteous and always looks at the negatives in life
Someone without a personality and likely a declining youtube channel and zero talent.
Jenna and julien are innocent people
She came for Jenna???
Hold my tea, gotta cancel my basketball game.
It was tomorrow.
Treebz omg I’m dying lmao !
Shes been coming for jenna for years. It's pretty sad
Hell Yeah!!
are you a point guard? do you have shoe game?
Treebz best comment yet
Freelee seems like the type of vegan that would force a vegan diet on their cat.
dramasbomin oh my god! You don’t know how many people I’ve argued with about this.
Didn’t she feed her dogs a vegan diet?
NeverHide dogs can be vegan, cats can’t
Anybody doing that should be charged with animal abuse
Ran Kasai even if they could.. just why xD ?
I like Jenna because she doesn't shove being vegan down people's throats she makes it look fun and not so hard.
She's been off and on again too right? She did a funny video several years ago where she shoved burgers in her mouth while crying. I think she's cycled back and forth between vegan and not, which is so totally fine. If anything, it makes her relatable.
@@racheltania4498 I don't think I've seen that exact video, but is it possible it was a beyond burger? They do look a lot alike.
@@guesswh4 It was from maybe 5 years ago, and I am not sure those existed yet?
Rachel Tania I think she mentioned in a podcast a while ago that she used to go on and off, but for maybe a couple years or so(?) she has not done that. She used to have non-vegan cheat days when she first started going vegan! :)
Rachel Tania
From what I remember she and Julien weren’t vegan 5 years ago. I think they’ve started a vegan diet in the past few years, maybe starting 4 years ago.
An attack on Jenna Marbles is an attack on everything good in this world.
Yes.
Facts.
True!!
Accurate, no one comes for jenna and gets away with it
Preach!
*Non-vegans and Vegans have come together to support our 32 year old queen*
Can vegetarians come too?
Non-vegan and Celiac disease gal here, WE MUST PROTECT JENNA
Can understanding non-vegans be here? Bc I'm here and ready to do the protecc.
@@jennifertosspon6197 yass we just got added to the comment 💁 we must protect Jenna at all cost. Shout the war cry HELL YEAH!
I'll go home now.
OH HELL YEA!
Regarding the honey, I’m a bee farmer in training, and I want to clarify that we aren’t cruel to our bees in any way. They live naturally, but call our hives their home. A single bee makes 1/12th of a teaspoon of honey in their entire life, but they only eat less than a quarter of that amount. Bees produce large quantities of excess honey that they simply don’t use. We harvest that excess and use it.
Bee farms like ours are the only reason bee populations are even alive today. The natural honey bee, an insect that’s absolutely essential to the environment, is dying out due to pollution and habitat encroachment. It’s the hard truth, and the only way we’ll be able to sustain the population is through controlled bee farms. The only way many vegetables, produce, and flower species will survive is through controlled and monitored bee populations.
Please, if you want to support the bees, buy organic honey. It does no harm to the bees, but actually helps them massively.
You are way over stating honey bees role. It's not because of bee farmers that bees are alive today. Yes native bees are insects, but so are honey bees so I'm not sure why you felt the need to make that distinction. Honey bees are an invasive species and contrary to the picture you are attempting to paint, are responsible for a miniscule amount of pollination minus almond farms. There is a new species that's here now harming the wild bee because it's aggressive and guards any area it claims for pollination. There is no where near enough honey bees to even begin to replace the wild bee nor can there be because they can't survive the winters in many areas like wild ones can.
The honey bee is a non-native species in most of the world and competes with native pollinator species. Stop spreading this blatant lie.
@@chloro8306 Not to be rude, but maybe they don't know this? Its better to educate than accuse.
Matthew Jensen sane reason they should just eat local and organic dairy and egg products too.
J Couture bees are kept in much different conditions then cows and chickens
NO ONE insults our vegan queen, jenna. she is literally the sweetest and most caring person ever. meanwhile freelee is the most problematic bully and makes the entire vegan community look bad.
Being 👏🏻vegan 👏🏻is👏🏻 not👏🏻 a competition👏🏻
Yess. It feels like some people use veganism as an excuse to be The Best at something and berate others for not being perfect.
👍👍
Yyyaaassss!!!
Exactly! She is the reason so many people say they stopped even trying after a while. Simply because they are constantly told they are a shit person for a small mistake or that they can never win/ be good enough. You'd think someone who tries to claim she wants everyone to do better would have learned this by now.
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The irony is Jenna and Julian have probably converted way more people than freelee
JennyWas13 yeah Jenna and julien made me go vegan because I realized I don’t have to be so strict. Trying my best is an improvement compared to eating all animal products
They actually make me want to go vegan tbh (I just have my personal issues for why I haven't yet) But Freelee makes me feel like I'd get yelled at if I didn't do it the way I want.
I'm not vegan but when they cook vegan food, I want to cook that food. I want to incorporate that into my diet. Just being honest and open with your way of life without judgement for those that don't subscribe to those same ideals is a good way of opening up a community to people who probably thought it wasn't for them. Like saying "hey, you don't have to make this your entire lifestyle, it's okay to dabble a bit and see what you like, whilst continuing with what you were doing before."
So true
Very true! They inspired me to try out veganism by showing the many things you can still eat. (Gluten free too!)
Jenna’s videos aren’t “revolutionary”??? Okay freeleee literally makes the same content over and over spitting the same rhetoric in every video.
Right?! Jenna is a revolutionary QUEEN!
Who else turns their hair into a hot wheels track? Blows bubbles with their hair? Does excellent arts and crafts with a lovely ares sidekick? Turns their boyfriend into a bratz doll? A revolutionary QUEEN
Maggie Holland I like Jenna but I don’t think you know what revolutionary means.
... I thought jenna’s audience was just people who either like dogs or are generally exhausted isn’t that everyone
Also people who are in need of a break. Not necessarily tired. Just need a break from the world to watch a 32 year old lady and her boyfriend do arts and crafts while her dogs seek attention
Yup!! That's me lol
"Her diet is full of fried foods! So unhealthy!"
Bold words coming from a woman who adds a table spoon of sugar to her fruit juice
Tash i love that freelee thinks that juliens once a week cooking videos represents their whole diet lmao
*ladle
Coconut sugar has inulin in it... just saying
Um what? If anything, she added coconut sugar, you make it sound like it's white sugar or something
Eva B. i’m pretty sure that coconut sugar hasn’t been shown to have a lower glycemic index independently
As a 26 year old lady who's hasn't missed a jenna marbles video in years I am offended that she called jennas content mind numbing lol. Glad I don't follow the banana broad
blueberrypomegranate I’m a 25 year old lady who never misses a Jenna Marbles video! ❤️ Jenna has some of the most wholesome content on the Internet it absolutely warms my heart and cheers me up when I need it. Banana brat can lay off our girl.
I'm an EMT if I didnt have some friendly fun disco ball-greenscreen-32year old-bunwitch nonsense to take my mind off shit I would be burnt out before I could even legally be an alcoholic (I'm 20 and in the states)
Love your profile picture
her videos are "mind numbing" because she's doing things that make her happy and not actively being rude to people because they aren't following the exact diet you are
23 y/o psych student, compassion fatigue is real and Jenna's content is a lovely break from the real world
Isnt refusing to consume honey adding to colony collapse? It doesnt hurt the bees at all, if anything it benefits the bees to purchase local honey because that will support bee keepers. Happy bees make honey, sad bees dont.
In the beginning i of my veganism of my veganism i didn't understand as well.
But try to look at it like that. Often Bees dying in the process and they may have a shorter live due to farming. But lets pretend it isn't like this. Why should someone eat honey, with so many alternativs on the Market.
Bees need their honey, we don't.
@@eckopeace7068 Because bees overproduce honey, because no sugar alternative is free of side effects (xylitol gives you diarrhea, agave nectar harvesting is adding to the endangerment of bats who feed on it, etc.), because despite what some vegans think SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIPS ACTUALLY EXIST?
@@spiderlily723 i don't want to tell you, what you should or shouldn't eat. It is just that vegans believe, that is better to not to eat products where animals are getting harmed.
Symbiotic realtionships means both induviduals gets a profit from the relationship. When only we take honey it is more like a parasite. But whatever, do whatever you like, i just want to explain why it isn't vegan. Have a nice day.
@@eckopeace7068 Parasites actively harm their host, that's why they're parasites. Good bee-keeping means you take care of the bees, provide housing, make sure they survive in non-optimal weather, provide them with plants to pollinate and in exchange you get to harvest honey.
@@spiderlily723 thank you for claryfing that, have you already seen Industrial farmed honey?
Maybe they are normally mit killed on purpose but is it worth? I would recommend to watch a UA-cam Video about this subject.
I have nut allergies which I could die from, and even I sometimes forget to check the label or miss the ingredient (although nuts are usually written in bold). Like people make mistakes
I'm celiac and I'm totally the same. Sometimes I just can't be bothered... It's not that I don't care, it just takes a lot of energy to be switched on all the time. Some people might have a problem with that but oh well 🤷♀️
same with me. i have celiac disease so i have to avoid gluten as if my life depended on it and there have been many times i accidentally ate gluten. it doesn’t mean i didn’t care to check or that i wasn’t trying, it just means i’m a human being who makes mistakes and i’ll definitely be able to tell if i had gluten cuz my stomach would be obliterated! i’m also dyslexic so i sometimes even have to ask someone in the store to read the ingredients to check for gluten if i think i might have missed something. this freelee chic needs to pop a xanax and chill the f out!
Same, except i haven't had an allergic reaction in a while so idk how serious they are
Same 🤷🏻♀️ I have an egg allergy and every six months I fuck up
Milk allergy here, and hard same. Plus, there’s milk in some really weird things that I’m not necessarily going to assume to check. And then there’s the whole “made in the same factory that handles x, y and z” and like…sometimes I’m just hungry and need a sandwich on my break so I can do my fucking job, so I take a gamble.
Did anybody else read “32 year old lady” from the title in Jenna’s voice?
Carly R yes!!!
Always 😂
Of course! :D
Lol yes!!
Yes I sang it in my head
Jenna Marbles, with her low-key, no big deal veganism and overall kindness to animals AND people, does more for animals and veganism than Freelee the Bananaz Girl's snide judgemental perfection will EVER do. She is the kind of vegan who drives people to meat in reaction to her hatefulness.
This comment!!!!! Yes
My first contact with veganism was through people like Freelee and lemme tell ya I hated it Took me YEARS to change my mind about veganism, and I can only thank people like Jenna for showing me Not All Vegans Are Assholes and being a vegan wont turn you into a literal Human Butthole
Absolutely.
@@hilomona its not "you were mean to me so I wont care about animal abuse anymore", because 99.9999% of FreeLee and other shitty youtubers like her will NEVER be personally attacked by them, and most looked up veganism BECAUSE they care either about their health or the animal abuse. It's more like "I wish I could educate myself about this subject and lifestyle, but the proeminent spokespeople are so judgmental, cruel, and inflexible, that I'm afraid to be joining in a hateful cult-like movement where I will never be good enough and might turn into an asshole too" kind of feel.
Yes!! She models the best parts of veganism.
Julien is the reason I am even working towards veganism. I always had that stereotype in the back of my head that vegan food is gross and bland but the stuff Julien makes looks hella delicious, sometimes even more delicious than the non-vegan equivalents. Freelee was the reason I vehemently opposed veganism when I was younger.
RetroSavi exactly
This describes me so much omg
Why does FreeLee talk like being vegan is a personality trait
Cuz it's the only thing her personality revolves around.
Because she’s boring and pathetic and she is a narcissist. It’s all about her. And her being the best vegan in the world lol
Her judgemental shout outs are like running fingernails down a blackboard, horribly irritating voice.
I think at this point freelee is the vegan version of onision
Actually... I thought that's what she was going to say in the video! :,)
I think she is the vegan Trump. Enough said.
Even she and Onision don’t get along. I don’t watch their content but I remember seeing a bunch of videos of them together and then an onision one denouncing her. So if crazy is saying your crazy, then you must REALLY be crazy 😂😂
please do not compare anyone to onision, very few in the world are as vile as him
Isarely Chavez at THIS point?! When was she NOT?!
Jenna is too wholesome for this LMAO
That's exactly what I was thinking. Jenna has such positive and thoughtful energy, trying to act like she's a drama source is ridiculous lol.
bubblegumplastic 100 million times agreed!!! Freelee got nothing left to say lmao what a joke
I mean tbh Jenna and Julian have done a lot more to inspire me to become vegan than Freelee ever has.
People who believe consuming honey and beekeeping is immoral is willfully ignorant to how beekeeping works. I have been keeping bees for months now and I’m constantly learning more about them. There are so many misconceptions about beekeeping and it’s very frustrating sometimes. Here are some examples of things I’ve learned since I started beekeeping:
1. *Smoking bees* is NOT harmful for them. Obviously you don’t want to light a campfire under the hive, but a few puffs of white smoke to mask their alarm pheromones is beneficial for both the bees and the keeper. Bees communicate through smell, and if one bee thinks there’s danger, she will alert other bees to attack. The smoke disguises that smell and drives the bees back down into the hive so they aren’t crowded at the top. I usually don’t even have to smoke my bees, they’re usually docile and I can read their body language to know if they’re getting upset.
2. *Some bees get killed in the process* but it isn’t dozens all at once. We’re very careful not to squish them, but it is inevitable that some will die here and there. It hurts my heart when it happens, and I try to avoid it to the best of my ability. What we do for the bees by inspecting their hives and make sure everything is running smoothly makes up for the fact that some may perish in the process. It’s in the keeper’s best interest to avoid squishing the bees.
3. *Honey bees are competition for native bees* (depending on where you live), but there are ways to increase native populations of bees too. Non-honey producing bees are just not profitable (although they do a better job of pollinating) compared to the financial benefit of selling honey.
But many beekeepers have native bee houses as well as honey bee hives, and it’s a growing trend even among non beekeepers. They’re very easy and inexpensive to make, and there’s hardly any maintenance involved.
People who think beekeeping is unethical just don’t know enough about it, same as everyone else in the world. I’m constantly answering questions from people who are curious about how beekeeping works, and I was even able to do a demonstration of a hive inspection for an audience of friends. I wish people would do their research on honey bees before concluding that honey is morally bad just because someone on youtube said it was. It’s so much more complex than *animal product = bad*
@@somad6997 This logic doesn't actually care about the bees when it completely disregards the millions of others that are well taken care of. There is nothing about any consumption that can avoid the accidental loss of insect life
@@somad6997 Not eating honey won't really do anything for the death of the bees and instead impact the livelihood of the thousands of surviving bees. Again, there is no food you can consume that hasn't killed insects in some way or another, be it accidentally or on purpose. So it is better to support one that intentionally tries to avoid it or lump them all together anyways?
Regarding "exploiting" the bees, I can assure you that they do not care. It's a mutually beneficial relationship. The bees get protection for generations in exchange for their excess honey. There is a reason exploitation is bad but that's just not what's happening here 🐝🐝
@@joshb895 I can understand trying to minimize damage and harm in our diets but I still believe the logic holds that honey does that just fine to be considered vegan friendly. If all food industries kill, ones that actively try to avoid it should not be lumped with the rest. That's the point, right? To minimalize?
Also there's nothing wrong with beekeeping. Irresponsible beekeeping will allow invasion but that doesn't need to be fought with boycotting honey. There's different ways. And yes, they are taken care of more than a wild bee. Nothing wrong with it.
I'll repeat my points just as often as you do yours. I defend honey because I legit care about the business and just do not agree that it's not vegan. An opinion developed and backed by many other vegans so it genuinely doesnt matter that I'm not one.
We'll likely go back and forth forever tho so no real need to keep debating about it tbh lmao
The pesticides many farmers use on there crops kill insects so are vegetables and other crops not vegan as well?
DeadLetter I love beekeepers that show up and educate ignorant people. Keep doing you and keep taking care of those bees 👏👏🐝
Freelee is jealous, and is super obvious. Especially when she tries to belittle Jenna’s channel and audience. She dislikes the fact that Jenna is more beloved than she is. Jenna is an example of what a vegan should be. She also doesn’t force it on people or judge other people for not being vegan. She talks about it and it’s actually gotten many people into it from watching her channel. Leafy is the obnoxious and stereotypical example of a vegan that makes people not like vegans. She turns people off to veganism especially with her attitude.
Freelee constantly talking about how Jenna might be "slipping" sounds exactly like extreme religious rhetoric
Exactly my first thought.
All extremists sound like this it's like comparing the crusades (freelee) and Buddhists (Jenna and Julien) lol
Mikaela especially when she talks about hanging out with non vegan people and that she's being influenced by them... creepy
@@givemeattention4163 implying non vegans are bad people u shouldnt be freinds with...so creepy
So does the "you've been hanging around non vegans!" Rhetoric
If anyone says anything negative about our 32 year old mega tall queen I will be throwing hands.
Zsuzsmoux lets go!!!
Oh shit!
the 6'11" legend will dunk on freelee at least five times
Im in!
You commented everything I wanted to say and more.. freelee better wAtCh OuT
I forgot Freelee was Australian and when she opened her mouth, I immediately had a reaction to both square up and apologise for her representing us aussies.
RIGHT. I hate it
Life as a "grown up" is nothing without play. Jenna Marbles validates my belief that we can be simultaneously grownup and ridiculous. That combination makes the shitty parts of life much more bearable. Thanks UV :)
She protecc
She attacc
But most importantly,
She got Jenna's bacc.
:') fucc yeag
Hell yeah!
Baaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Tanesha Crews lol Jenna is awesome
Breaking news:
Freelee stepped on an ant at some point this year. Cancel her
kai 😂
Why does comedy on UA-cam have to be “revolutionary”? Why can’t comedy just BE comedic, without some greater message? Also, is freelee implying that Jenna’s older content (the stuff freelee used to watch) was revolutionary????
Yes it was very revolutionary to put a fake mustache on and show how guys drive a car, I can’t believe she stopped fighting the good fight
I wanna like this but it's got 69 likes and I dont wanna fuck that up so I'll just leave a comment saying I like this :)
Not to mention it's IMPOSSIBLE to be a "perfect" vegan or a PERFECTLY ethical person period. Like does freelee look into every brand of every product to make sure that every material is ethically and sustainably sourced? Does she research every piece of clothing to make sure it or the material it's made from didn't come from a sweatshop? Sounds like someone who is clearly reaching and obviously name dropping for nothing but notoriety and views.
Edit: Someone literally commented on her "off grid shower" video that the pipes she uses aren't vegan because "plastics manufacturers use animal fat additives to improve material properties and/or to aid in the processing of raw polymers." I don't know about that but POINT PROVEN. A taste of her own medicine perhaps?
Also saying you need to watch animal torture videos to stay committed sounds a lot like cult-like emotional self flagellation.
Vegan/Vegetarian/Animal activits telling to people to "Watch Earthlings, it'll change your mind" are fcking assholes and I won't take any kind of counter argument to people defending people wanting to put others throught a traumatic documentary because it's apparently good for them.
And I've seen so many people recommanding that it make me SO MAD
Kougz right! I’ve never made it through earthlings and I don’t feel the need to because it upsets me
She had a photo of animal torture on her phone to remind her everyday of her mission.
Exactly my thoughts- it reminds me of an extreme religion where you constantly have to repent for your "sins." Anytime I watch a video where an animal is being abused, it doesn't make me feel newly committed to the cause of animal activism, it makes me want to jump off a cliff!! Instead, I prefer to watch videos of animals being rescued, to remind myself that there ARE good people in this world trying to help out, and I want to be part of that.
@@GabyyRose Earthlings messed me up so much and I only got through 20 minutes. I would never recommend that video to anyone or force people to look at disturbing images. I stopped following people online who constantly posted cruel pictures and videos. It just made me sick.
“I think she’s got a hamster” how dare you insult ad like that
Christine Payne RIP ad
Just the fact that she doesn't know that Ad died shows that she doesn't really keep up with her channel, and probably only watched the videos she's referencing because someone probably tweeted her about them because *fake vegan alert system*
AD DIDNT DIE FOR THIS
Okay totally not on Freelees side AT ALL but she did put "RIP AD" text in her video when she mentioned it.
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I think it’s also important to remember that Julien is first and foremost gluten free, his options are already pretty limited and he’s checking to see if products will make him sick first before he checks anything else. And I’m sure he still felt bad for it? Idk it’s all ridiculous 😂
As a diabetic, her logic with sugar is scary.
Jenna and Julian have done more for the vegan image than most of the major vegan youtubers in recent years.
They have made us look normal and chill, undoing the damage that people like freelee have done.
Being vegan "in the background" instead of making it your main personality trait really shows that it is possible to be vegan and not be the stereotype
I have infinate love for those two for so many reasons
IK RIGHT they are both some of the main reasons why I went vegetarian and am transitioning into veganism
I’m not vegan, and I used to think not so great things about them, but from watching Jenna and Julien I’ve gained SO MUCH respect for vegans and the food they create. to see someone with an audience promoting a vegan lifestyle that’s fun, empathetic, and welcoming is SO EFFECTIVE and I buy and promote vegan brands because of people like Jenna and the kind vegans I know. Hopefully someday I can afford to try to go vegan. Keep being awesome.
I'm not vegan but I love, love, love, tofu tenders bc of Jenna. She is so nonchalant and non pushy.
You’re absolutely right. Their videos aren’t shaming in the least when they make vegan and gf recipes and I’ve tried several (I’m not vegan) and they’re REALLY GOOD. I love that they make it known they follow the lifestyle but it’s not in your face and rude.
They were the ones who introduced the idea and turned me towards being vegan
let's not ask the girl who said missing periods is healthy and blamed heavy menstruation solely on a "toxic diet" who is and isn't a terrible vegan
All vegans are terrible
@@unabruja624No I will not shut up Vegans are simple stupid people who have been indoctrinated into a cult
@@unabruja624 Yes you understand , good Joining a vegan cult is very ignorant
I am so happy to have reached someone
You are welcome
I should talk to her, I'm eating worse now than 20 years ago and my period is getting better
@@garypack1709 haha good joke 😂
"fried food is bad!1!1!!1"....says the 32 year old woman who ADDS SUGAR TO HER FRUIT JUICE
So? Knowing something is bad (and saying so) for you is one thing, actually steering clear of it is an entirely different matter
Your body ruins on sugar, not fat
Freelee: "Adopt an animal you know nothing about, that you don't have the means to properly care for, and are only doing it to prove something to yourself and not because you genuinely want to share your life with that animal."
Me: "Yeah, cause that sounds vegan..."
Reminds me of the time that my boyfriend brought home some carnival fish without warning me. (He rescued them from a work event. They were just going to throw them in the dumpster.) I've never cared for fish before, but I tried to do my research. And as a result, I got to watch them die one by one over many months. We also didn't have the money for proper equipment, so i had to manually clean the water constantly. Looking back, I think the water oxygen was too low and the tank was too small
@@msjkramey that's so heartbreaking, it made me really rethink the ethics of adoption in some cases, I'm really sorry this happened to you, I'm sure you tried your very best
Yea, what tf was that comment ? So stupid
Playing vegan border patrol is getting old. Someone, please buy that woman her own special hat and a notepad, so she can look more believeable and then let’s call it a day. Honey is not vegan, but neither is botox.
TheKristinaH or palm oil
Plus I’d say honey is debated as vegan or not in the vegan world so we just have an understanding not to push each other on it because both interpretations are pretty valid.
LOL
OOOOOOOOO shiiiiiit
She watched to much Scott Pilgrim and she wants to be Vegan Police too
There’s girls out here accidentally uploading themselves beating their dogs but this girl’s going after Jenna’s ramen nails 😂
Wait... WAT!?
@@SurprisedPikacheesecake Brooke houts, alinity threw her cat and there's this other girl beating her dog up.
Seems like she attacks popular UA-camrs so she can get more views. I love Jenna and Julien, I had to watch that terrible video banana lady did and unfortunately probably counted as a view, even tho I exited it early and didn’t finish it. That’s how that lady has to get people to watch. That’s how she makes that $$$$$ Didn’t hesitate to give it a thumbs down on my way out. That banana lady was absolutely disgusting to listen to. And she also showed gnarly animal slaughter with ZERO warning and was completely traumatized!
She doesn’t care about animals she just wants views. There are a bunch of UA-camrs who eat meat and are super fit and healthy and she can’t argue about them because they are fit then their are really great Vegan channels who give great advise and tips but she would never promote them if it doesn’t get her views or attention. She really just wants attention because she isn’t good at anything other than judging everyone for not being a 90 pound raisin like her. 🤷🏼♀️
Amen.
I would bet money on it that Jenna and her boyfriend Julien have inspired more people to become vegan than Freelee.
Maybe watching these extremely violent animal abuse content constantly is making her a little too extreme and crazy... Just maybe.... Maybe she should calm down a little, have a glass of water idk
The thing is the Jenna and Julien also eat gluten free, which is hard enough. So any effort to go animal product free should be commended in my opinion. And Julien also shows certain recipes that are suitable for him, so can also introduce celiacs who may be intimidated by vegetarianism/veganism etc.
I’m GF and this is so important to consider, I wanted some bread as we’re going on a trip soon and it’s a nice treat and literally every single GF bread in the store I went to had egg in. I mostly eat vegan but I’m GF for digestive issues and it’s hard to find things that work
Yes!! If you have a dietary restriction it can be SO much harder for you to be vegan. I have a nut allergy and SO many “vegan” products or recipes contain nuts and it is one of the reasons why I am not vegan. Sorry Freelee ✌🏼
Without human interaction honey bees do not survive in nature so when you refuse to eat honey, you are killing honey bees.
@DingleBungus there's plenty of other types of bees in the wild but the kind we use to harvest and gather honey are a domesticated breed, they have been in human captivity longer than we've domesticated cats... as far as them surviving in the wild perhaps they do in their native habitat but not here in the rural US where I'm from, beekeepers have a hard enough time keeping them alive while protected let alone in the wild
Yeah yeah yeah
There's so many adults who watch Jenna's content because we were kids & teenagers when she started on UA-cam. So crazy Freelee thinks her audience is kids when I'm positive it's majority adults.
Yeah, I really doubt that a lot kids would watch a 20-30 min slow paced video of Jenna walking her dogs or painting. I feel like her energy and style are more suited to young adults and up
She makes videos for anyone who is a ✨32-year old laaaadyyy ✨ in their heart
I just started watching her a couple months ago for her 32yr old lady content lol
That's for sure, I'm 25 year old lAaAdDyY and watch every single one of her videos
I'm 19 and I love Jenna, her videoes are genuinely funny
I got extremely nervous and worried even, when I saw freelee’s video. I tried to express my opinions but alas, comments were disabled. I think Jenna is extremely valuable to the vegan community. Since (as freelee says) “her demographic is children” that’s nearly 20,000,000 children that are hearing “vegan” in some capacity, we should be thanking her, not gossiping like old church ladies about some crackers and flavor packets.
Ughhh my mom's a dietitian and it is so refreshing how solid an understanding of nutrition science you have! Thank you for being "logical and practical," as Jenna said lol
Chloe Parsons I’m not remotely vegan but I love listening to her talk, she’s so smart and well spoken.
if she comin for my favourite 32 year old lady she gonna catch these hands
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the amount of effort jenna & julien put into their veganism and sustainability cannot be put back by accidentally eating honey. she's acting like she accidentally ate a steak.
Skye Esprit and even if they ate one steak, that wouldn’t undo the progress they’ve made. It’s still way better than most of the population
Not eating honey is killing the bees. Harvesting honey does NOT hurt the bees. Using agave as a substitute is actually killing bats. Honey should be considered vegan.
I agree with you!! Also Ur so pretty
Exactly! And honey doesn’t even harm bees. Beekeepers are providing homes and care for a dying species. Idk. I agree with you!
I literally misread this as “ate a seal” 😂
I'm a simple girl. I see Jenna Marbles, I click.
The moment vegan preaches how HoNeY iS eViL, they lose all credibility for me. You can argue mass-harvesting is bad, but the really healthy thing we had in our diet as a species for ages? Really?
Want to hear what soy does to your body or who's harvesting your cashews?
I will not buy honey because even if doesn't even hurt an animal, it's not mine. However, my mom got me raw honey from a 92 yo neighbor because I had a cold and she heard it was good for your throat. Of course I used it. I don't get people like freelee and yes, Jenna was part of the reason I went vegan.
@@jenniferowen2801 Air is not yours. Water is not yours. There needs to be a moment when you stop trying to pretend humans are somehow above the biological system.
@@spiderlily723 ok, when you invent a way I can live without those and can't live without honey, let me know. Sorry, that my beliefs are different than yours.
@@jenniferowen2801 I'm not against your belief (in fac I myself simply don't like honey and don' use it, ever). I'm against this weird tryhard at making humans be something that can exist outside of the rest of the natural order.
The idea that bees 'own' their honey is as weird as the air that is produced by phytoplankton being owned by it.
There's nothing wrong with soy. Please tell me that you dont think that phytoestrogens are the same as human estrogens...
Get a farm animal but your rescue severely traumatized greyhound that you are recently dedicating your time and heart to doesn’t count... ok...🙄
Cheryl they did adopt a cow! Basically. They paid for all of its expenses until it died. Julien has a tattoo dedicated to it
Cheryl THANK YOU! All I was thinking was « what about bunny?! »
I think she’s pretty out of touch with them because she didn’t even know that Ad had passed away. That makes it even more obnoxious because she obviously doesn’t keep up with them so to act like she “cares” is just sad.
Johanna Cheryl yes pour little ad passed away i think over a year ago
Also jenna and julien have talked about getting chickens in the past, but have acknowledged that they dont know enough and wouldnt be able to care for it properly. That's responsible veganism and pet ownership, you dont just get a farm animal for your own "connection" or whatever, you make sure you're ready and doing what's right for the animal.
those who don't watch animal exploitation videos regularly
did you mean: *normal people*
Honestly I don’t get how she can do that. The few videos I have seen made me sick to my stomach. But they didn’t make me want to go vegan either
I'm numb to those videos because I've been on enough farms to see animals slaughtered in real life. I do better following farm sanctuaries on instagram and seeing happy animals getting another chance at life. (But I'm also not fully vegan yet, thanks stomach issues)
@@vigtoria8123 how does that not make you want to go vegan after seeing that horrendous slaughter:/?
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Haley .JustHaley it’s not necessary to go vegan after seeing that. people like meat. they just need to make sure they are buying it from an ethical and reliable source. with no growth hormones added and pure, 100%, organically and ethically raised.
I think I remember freelee saying non-vegans don’t deserve to live.
I can’t stand her
But it's ALL about compassion! /sarcasm
How hypocritical. Save animals but kill people mhm
Find the clip! Or you’re just lying
@@waluigi6410 it would take be hours to find the clip. I haven’t seen that video in like 5 years probably longer
@@waluigi6410Absolutely sounds like sth she would say though wouldn't it
Julien liked your video! It’s in his likes playlist on his channel.
Jenna and Julien’s videos of helping their rescue greyhound, Bunny, adapt to her new life filled with love and compassion, do a thousand times more toward promoting a commitment to animal welfare than any of the animal torture porn that Freelee promotes. And that more than compensates for a molecule of homey and another molecule of chicken stock.
sandihj - Sometimes manufacturers change ingredients in products. We have been caught this way when buying our usual brands which were safe for our daughter’s allergies. She had a reaction and I had to go through the pantry to discover which product caused it.
And whatever happened to freelee's dog figsy?
Absolutely!
Yessss!
Right!
Missing honey on a label is really easy too, because unlike milk or eggs, it's not in bold letters and is usually near the end of the list.
Yes. That’s because honey isn’t one of the top eight allergens. It’s similar with being gluten free. There have been times when I’ve skimmed the label and because there wasn’t wheat listed at the bottom, I assumed it was gluten free. My stomach suffered after...
Yes!!! I accidentally ate some granola bar or something and it was sweetened with honey. This is still unfortunate but still better than accidentally eating something with meat I think
Also there are vegans who choose to eat honey to support bee populations, so from what I understand honey is one of those "vegan's choice" foods anyway. To come after Jenna for honey is fucking weak lol
Wylde Fyre I feel the same way. I have a cinnamon allergy and often I miss it because it just says spices.
Yeah, especially when you’re in a rush and can’t triple check the label, recently I bought a cereal with honey in it, luckily I saw before opening it.
Basically Freelee feels like that catty mean, pretty teen girl that grew up, had an existential crisis, and might "care about" certain things but at heart is still the same person. :/
I'm 35 and love J&J. I'm a non vegan BUT have no meat days and I am inspired by them. They are amazing.
Freelee is low-key a woman version of Onision. Similar delusions, narcissism, and obsessions with the past. I LOVE Jenna's videos, she's genuinely lovely and absolutely hilarious. I'm 22.
Misha Rogerson especially when she said that Jenna doesn’t make revolutionary content...as if Freelee makes anything worth watching either lol the delusions of grandeur are real
Completely agree.
I don't watch a ton of her videos, but they are really good. I love when we see her hammys. I'm 29
@@jaderamirez857 Jenna's content IS revolutionary. Her self-mocking and absurdist humour is very unique in the youtube sphere. Her humour does NOT go after other people, she does things that make herself laugh even if it's hilariously dumb (in a good way!). And her empathetic, loving personality is so obvious, even despite her money and fame on the platform. Freelee is blowing smoke out of her ass and I'm pissed off that she's coming for my precious animal-loving cinnamon roll.
@@moxiousch A concept of empathy and boundaries is absolutely revolutionary in the current UA-cam climate, you're totally right
Freelee's tone gives me anxiety, lots of underlying rage. She just needs to chill.
G. Bee I think she hasn’t let go of her eating disorder and control issues with it
It's all that sugar 😂
@@HOHGuncle1312 yes absolutely.
Omg yessss 😂
She clearly has lotof issues
What I find funny is that a couple years back we all remember Freelee making more positive videos after her and durian ended things and she talked about regretting her aggressive approach. And now she's back at it and more extreme than ever. 🙄
You are spot on about the mental abuse affects. She is a codependent and is magnetically attracted to narcissists. It is very sad to see.
Exactly..she is massively code pendent. She jumped straight out of her relationship with DR into a relationship with Robin. After such an abusive relationship you need time to heal alone but she never had that. Freelee has absolutely zero self awareness though and would never recognise this in herself.
We don't need a few people being vegan perfectly to make a difference, we need millions of people doing their best (imperfectly!) to make a big impact on the environment, our food supply etc.
Thank you! I have a lot of vegan friends, some of them have introduced me to some of the most delicious meals out there, but since I have a nut allergy, I cannot participate fully in veganism. I know a lot of people have dietary restrictions that make everyday eating much more challenging, and sometimes going fully vegan will affect that. I do my best to remove meat and milk from my diet (which is extremely difficult in a Hispanic household, my dad makes carne asada every week) and increase the amount of vegetables and fruits to my diet, but it’s an effort. Hopefully, one day, people can enjoy food while still being aware of the impact they make with their food choices and care for the planet AND those that live on it.
Bingo! I doubt I'll ever go 100% vegan, but I make a conscious effort to limit my consumption of meat because it's a practical (for me) way that I can have a positive impact on the environment. At this point I probably only eat meat 1 or 2 days a week. And it's not like I miss it! If everyone did this, the world would be such a better place with so much less animal suffering and an overall healthier global ecosystem. And it wouldn't require a huge shift in lifestyle, which is something that most people just find intimidating, if not outright impossible depending on their situation.
Agreed so much. "It's the little things" is a good saying. Everyone is in a different place in their life...you can only try so hard if you also want to keep your mental health, especially if you have other stressors in life. I'm vegetarian, not vegan because I'm at a point in my life were it would not be practical (for many long reasons) and we're I can't mentally deal with the stress of more societal judgment about my diet... I mean, my family almost disowned me when I went vegetarian lol. Meat eaters included, everyone has their reasons. Shade never made anyone less omnivorous (yes that's a Taylor reference).
I started being vegetarian by making small changes. As silly as it sounds, that first step was learning HOW TO FIND vegetarian recipes (I'm not entirely sure I knew they existed😂). Apparently all you have to do is google 'vegetarian recipes'. WHO KNEW??? Then I started eating a flexitarian diet and slowly (like over the course of 2 YEARS) became vegetarian. But you know what? I still eat sushi sometimes because it's my mom's favourite thing to do with me and I love her more than fish . But you know what? I love to challenge myself to make vegan recipes and I actively support/defend vegan products/people. (Almost) everyone is trying to do good. The causes we support and the ways we show our love for humanity/ the planet may be different, but we are all trying to accomplish the same goal.
Thats why meatless monday is making its round around the world! I love vegan and non vegan food and I cant give meat fully up, but I know sustaining from meat a couple of times a week can help!!
I have OAS (oral allergy syndrome) and I’m allergic to a good 25 types of fruit, veg and most nuts out there to being vegan to me is pretty much impossible unless I wanna live off bananas and tangerines and some people need to realise dietary requirements are a thing
Freelee wishes she could be The 32-Year-Old Lady
Love the capital haha The UA-cam Queen
especially when she looks 50
Freely is the vegan version of Onion boy.
Onion boy is vegan too
I LOVE THE WAY SHE COMMUNICATES THIS. SHES SO RESPECTFUL AND NICE, VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD & HONEST, LEVELHEADED AND LOGICAL. IM SUBSCRIBED
Also, Julien has a few videos of them visiting an animal sanctuary near them where they fell in love with a cow... and adopted her. As in paid for the cow's needs until the cow passed away. But I guess Freelee can't do all of the research.
and he got her tattooed on his arm for the rest of his life! Guess that's not enough of a connection for bananabrain girl
I didn't know about this, yay, another reason to love Julien
Omg?? That’s so cute!!!!
jenna and julien have showed me u can be vegan and still enjoy great food and that u don’t just have to eat salads 24/7
I love that. Who would have thought you could eat beef and brocolli with homemade egg rolls for dinner? YUM!
Also that they do struggle sometimes. It's such a relief. Makes me actually want to try to be better about my food choices
Or in freely's case just fruit juice 24/7 xD
louise shulgin One of the points of the video was that vegans make mistakes. Those were TWO instances of the years that they’ve been openly vegan online. Julien makes plenty of vegan/GF friendly cooking videos, it’s really opening up a lot of non vegans to the lifestyle. So really I’d say they’re doing more good than harm. :)
louise shulgin Promoting ramen noodles..? by putting them on her nails..? And nOT eating and even saying they were disgusting. Oh my god shut up and go eat a salad or some shit.
I bought a "Nut Only Nut and Seed" mix a few months ago without checking it was vegan (because it was NUT MIX). It had beef jerky in it. BEEF. JERKY. I took it back to the store, and the cashier was vegan. I showed her the beef jerky on the 'NUT ONLY NUT AND SEED MIX.' She was confused. I was confused. Honestly, I'm still confused.
clearly she isn't aware of Jenna's content, her hamster Ad died at least a year ago. just shows how out of touch Freelee is.
Jenna’s casual/ non-judgemental veganism has probably done a better job of inspiring others/ reducing the demand for animal products than freelee.
Freesia Laxa THIS
Soooo true
Why I watch Jenna's "mind numbing videos"
1. Because I need a brake from my stressful job
2. Because being an adult at all times is not fun, and getting to be childish for half an hour once a week is not bad, I'd say its necessary.
3. Because Jenna is the most wholesome person I know on this platform.
Same, she helps me when I'm having anxiety attacks:)
Yaaaaas! Jenna is Queen. ❤️❤️❤️
That banana lady is the most disgusting personality I have ran into on UA-cam.
yea i look forward to wednesdays/thursdays cus jenna's videos are like the highlight of my week
Jenna has single handedly quashed my fears of growing older. I know now that transitioning into adulthood and becoming an adult full time doesn't have to be joyless. You can be selfish and kind at the same time and that's wonderful.
TheCurvyGamer me too! I’m 21 so I’m still pretty young(?) and Jenna & Julien make me actually pretty excited to get older. They seem like they’ve found a really good balance of being responsible adults and still having fun
I didn’t know Jenna was vegan. She’s cute. And wholesome. I wish vegans would quit using their diet as a way to make others feel bad.
I am a vegan and while I agree, a lot of vegans start off really radical then boomerang back. I think Freelee missed that stage. It is like a lot of people who find Christianity or Islam or other "strict" religions and become radical or a zealot (in a good way) then find a happy medium.
there is neuroscientific evidence that pain can be addictive, including emotional pain, they were mostly studying self shame and relieving your own personal trauma, but why not trauma by proxy like watching animal cruelty videos? i think that happens to some vegans, they become vegan and all they can think and talk about is pain.
I enjoy Julien's cooking videos, because it feels more like "a chef who happens to be vegan," than "a vegan chef". Making veganism seem like an incidental characteristic, I think, shifts the potential target audience from only vegans to people who like to eat.
Yeah honestly!! I'm not vegan/GF (far from it...) but I cook his stuff all the time on meatless Mondays just because of how good it is.
Yes!! Couldn't have put it better myself
I also love that Julien's recipes are accessible for regular people. It's meals people can actually make reasonably and eat on a regular basis that are satiating and flavorful!!
Yesss. I agree so much!
me: i'm over vegantube, why am i here, i'm not even vegan
me two days later: WHO'S TALKING BAD ABOUT JENNA????
shoesofbilliejoe yes protect Jenna at all costs
MEEEEEE!!!!!!
@J R oh my God me too
@J R yes! I watched her back when she had dreads and did all those crazy crash diets. and shes not even vegan anymore 😂
Same!
There is a principle for this "dont make the perfect the enemy of the good."
How to be a healthy vegan:
1) Don't follow the banana girls dumb advise
2) Eat lots of veggies and fruit and eat enough grains and carbs (don't just eat fruit *cough* banana girl *cough*
I think most Jenna Marbles fans are actually in their 20's and 30's. Freelee just doesn't really know what she's talking about
Yeah, she's one of the few very popular UA-camrs that I find makes content that's more interesting to adults than content suited to kids.
I am 58 and a fan of Jenna Marbles
I'm in my mid 20s and that's true I'll look at the comments and I see more 30 + people then 20s or even younger
Not to mention a lot of Jenna's fans grew up into their 20s and 30s watching her
40s here as well 🤘🤘
J&J have made veganism and gluten free veganism so incredibly accessible.
I’m vegan but freelee makes me wanna eat meat just to spite her...
Love that rebel energy 😂
😂
She called out joey for going back to a non vegan diet. His health was suffering bc of him being vegan. He couldn’t afford to stay on the diet and she bullied him for it. Health is before anything else. If you need to back off the diet to live you need to do that
"Watching animal exploitation regularly" girl that CANT be good for your mental health
cyb0rgirl I would have depression. Really.
She also said she has dead animals as her lock screen to “remind her” of the torture..... like girl.
This would be like me watching obese autopsy and gastric bypass videos regularly to remind myself why I exercise and eat healthy
cyb0rgirl I watched a video of the (halal) slaughter of a pregnant cow. They executed her then took her baby out and beheaded it. It fucked me up so so bad. I still cry when I think about it. She looked at her killer so innocently right before he killed her. I’m still “damaged” by it.
It does... watching animal violence of any kinds even in books makes me sick.
Jenna Marbles fanbase ain't children, just adults who grew up watching her and still adore her. Like me.
Me too -- and I'm in my 50's.
who cares if Jenna's not eating vegan healthily at least shes being vegan.
Whut? Their diet of what they showed was healthy though. More normal. But healthy. Sure some processed foods. But that isn't bad and can be (obviously small) part of a good diet.
Freelee on the other hand.....
Thank you so much for this.
I found your video because I LOVE Jenna and she and Julien are the main reason I've been vegetarian/vegan for almost a year now!
I appreciate your empathy; as a relatively new vegan, I've made the "slip up" mistakes where I misread a label or was ignorant to how something was cooked, and I've made the very conscious "screw it, I'm sad, I want cheese" mistakes. While a Freelee video can be understood as a "call-to-action" from my semi-vegan brain, you make me feel "forgiven" for my slip-ups and it makes me want to continue on this journey even more. After watching this, I don't feel like there's no going back because of past mistakes, I just feel like tomorrow is a fresh start.
Thank you for your compassion to all life and for your patient, empathetic heart that draws people to your message. You just made my night.
You know who I could see being able to watch animal torture videos every single day without experiencing burn out?
Someone who lacks empathy.
Judging from Freelee's other callout videos, she 100% lacks empathy. She can't put herself in someone else's shoes AT ALL.
Was about to make that same comment. Would t be surprised if she enjoys it actually
If she was really committed to her ideas she wouldn't have to be reminded why she believes in what she believes in.
yep
i’m gonna be honest...
i forgot freelee even existed 🤷♀️
Me too, nice huh?
I envy you...
That’s why she puts Jenna’s name in her videos.
YES!! I didn’t think she even still did the banana thing or the raw til four thing until I saw a video of a dietician reviewing her daily diet. Haven’t thought about her for years.
Who is she? I don’t know her.
When I was vegan I was so brainwashed into doing what freelee said and watching animal suffering but it just made me hate life and everything.
i'm not vegan but watching julien's cooking videos make me wanna become vegan, not freelee's. i love how jenna and julien are so casual about being vegan, they mostly never mention it. julien will use vegan mince and that's mostly it. i adore them both. i really feel like the community needs more people like them to be advocates. not ladie freebie
Jenna has done more for veganism than Freelee could ever dream of.
Technically she could, that is as long as she advocate veganism in other areas. Veganism was never about just food. But it was never about making random videos on youtubers either. You see the circus that is the vegan movement today is not taken seriously and "we" eat MORE MEAT THAN EVER. Veganism is often seen as just a diet trend or associated with being extreme and a bit crazy. Whatever vegans are doing at the moment, it is not translating to the supermarked which is a dissapointment
OMG is that ur hair in ur pfp??? If it is then it looks amazing!
I am considering going back to vegetarian/vegan lifestyle because of Julien and jenna
Jenna is the good kind of crazy
This has the same energy as Jake Paul calling Cody Ko a cyberbully. What is it with these problematic youtubers trying to vilify people just minding their business?
v i e w s
^^^ views, yeah.
25:01 People who eat meats can still be distraught over animal abuse? I'm sure this wasn't what you meant it to sound like (only non-meat eaters can be upset by animal abuse), but I raise my own meat rabbits. They are treated like pets and I know where my food is coming from. This way I don't have to support the big meat industries. I haven't tried going vegan, but i do make vegan meals every now and then just to switch up my diet. I've met some really nice and passionate vegans but a lot of them (vegans) seem to jump to the "oh, you eat meat, you're practically torturing those animals with your own hands" Snob mentality.
To clarify, not all vegans are like this, I'm just agreeing with OP's 'cult' comment she made. Totally unrelated but the SD community is JUST as bad. Any mistake gets you dragged and once you've made that mistake its like you're shunned.