Tesla Model 3 SR+ 60 kWh winter range test
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
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My 60KWh Model 3 is extremely impressive when it comes to efficiency. I made two 1000km trips recently (same conditions as in the video) and the overall consumption was 197Wh/km (reported by car) with Autopilot mostly set to 150km/h when possible, otherwise 5km/h above the speed limit (I live in Germany). I found out that 150km/h seems to be the sweet spot when balancing consumption and speed. I did a 1000km challenge of my own and it took me 9:50 for 1050km and I did not optimize my charging stops, I just did what the navigation told me.
BTW: I am using Michelin CrossClimate 2 all season tyres. It feels like they are much quieter than the Michelin Pilot Sport it came with and the consumption seems quite good (I have not compared it to other tyres, though).
Thank you for sharing your experience, Timo! Wow 9:50 on tesla navigation?? How many stops did you make? I’m anticipating my SR+ in March and ABRP calculates roughly 10:30 for 1000km through Germany, so this is excellent news.
@@UndefeatedDeity I made 5 stops, IIRC. And a few times I stopped charging earlier than the Tesla navigation recommended, so I almost always arrived at the SuperCharger with a rather low SoC. I reached my final destination with 3% SoC. So maybe there was a little bit of optimization, but I didn't use ABRP, just the on board navigation system and my gut feeling. And I made all the stops that the Tesla navigation planned initially.
I feel that ABRP over-estimates the consumption for the 60KWh at certain speeds, I have been significantly quicker than ABRP (and the Tesla nav) almost every time without trying hard.
The Autobahn was relatively empty most of the time so that might also have been a beneficial factor. But all in all I was really surprised how efficient the M3 is in winter.
@@TimoFuchs Hi Timo, hak you for sharing the information. From my point of view and experience (3 years Model 3 LR) Empty Autobahn is not best conditions. Best thing for traveling is a big Sprinter 130-150 km/h in front of you 🙂
@@michaelweidner4042 I can resist the urge to drive violently fast ;-)
I am German Tesla Forum (TFF) somebody showed some sheets, which apparently show that this car actually has 62 kWh! Really can’t wait to get mine ☺️
Ist das dann in Deutschland das normale Standard Range Modell oder muss man das separat bestellen?
@@thedatroxde das basis standard Modell
It's a delay in delivery. Mine was supposed to arrive this week but delayed till the end of Feb.
Just to painful waiting lol
@@thedatroxde es ist das normale standard range Modell
"Really can’t wait to get mine" said while waiting... Won't it be pleasant in the future when many EV's are waiting on lots to be purchased that very day. (perhaps then Tesla will offer more than 5 paint colors)
I am driving my M3 2021 SR+ LFP for almost 7 months already and absolutely happy with comfort, range, and drive experience. Now planning long family trip from Latvia to Austria for skiing with a box on the roof :).. Hopefully this will not be too extreme and will have mo problems with range, chargin points etc.. As for now, after 20K km, average battery comsumption is about 140 Wt/km, which I think very efficient even considering summer time. Will see how it will be during my first Tesla winter :)
these tesla tests are always extra exciting... they really are the stars and none come close... maybe the etron with its lightning charging but its a bit apples and oranges
The E-tron charges quick but it's very inefficient compared.
Don't like the V11 trip data solution either... They shoould make the lower part of the left screen (avatar display) freely configurable, you should be able to drag any screen from the "car" display there. This would fix so many annoyances.
Wow! That’s awesome! It’ll just keep getting better as well as Tesla upping its supercharger to 324Kw, then V4 after that. Tesla is 🚀🚀🚀
I love love seeing your cold weather tests.
Cheers,
Eric
Do you call -4 deg C cold weather ???? When will you do über cold weather like -30 deg C (without any heat pump )
Reduced visibility: The heating element in front of the cameras may not be working. You can check if there’s mist on the glass. It happened to me a few weeks ago.
Remarkable efficiency!
insane range on this one
My 2005 CRV driver door did this. A quick fix when it starts is super glue paste in the plastic slot and tuck it back in using a lollipop stick to press it in. Just talkes minutes and looks as good as new.
As Model 3 60kWh LFP owner I have noticed that the heat pump scavenges heat from the battery until it's temperature drops to around 10-11'C. After this consumption jumps quite a lot. In -8'C outside temperature the car was pulling 4kW to heat the cabin. This was after 80km of drive when battery was down to 10'C.
I wish Bjorn would do some sort of cold car cabin heating tests / consumption tests.
My consumption is usually 190-220wh / km in -10'C with pre-heated car. Speed under 90km/h.
Björn should do "best electric car" in a few categories, I would probably just call it shopping list for me. Would love to hear his recommended cars!
Bjørn, thank you for doing this. Waiting for mine to be delivered but delayed again till the end of Feb. But something to look forward too
cool: Actually your 199Wh/km at 120 kmh is spot on identical what I had the last weeks consecutively with my M3LR on winter roads slightly uphill and downhill (18'' aero without the plastic caps. also the 90kmh consumtption is practically the same ... and all in a really rather cold westher here in CZ with snow etc and going into the mountains every week.
im glad Ive been waiting later and later to get a model 3 because it just keeps getting better and better!
I have another EV already (NMC battery I think) and I am quite happy with it, but I am eagerly waiting for LFP battery EVs due to 100% charging, longer lifetime and potentially lower prices. This Tesla 3 LFP seems quite impressive, I'd just like to have more competition so that the prices come down (I guess Tesla gets a nice fat margin for the LFP Teslas, as there is so little competition, most other brands still use more expensive NMC (Tesla's other models use NCA I guess).
The price has gone up and it will continue to climb because of inflation. So you don't actually get more than before.
V11 for the win!
10:58 I own a 2021 Model 3 LR, if you look at the SR's Trip A it says 187 Wh/km. Mine is 189 Wh/km on a total of 6000km driven since September.
Heat pump makes it a really efficient vehicle.
Agree, got mine in Nov 2021 now with 6,048km @ 141 Wh/km
Great test Bjorn! Thank you for your efforts.
Any chance of a 1000km challenge?
Thanks for the range test. I am waiting for mine 😀😀
Thanks for another great update! Would love new 3 but enjoying our 3 sr+
Björn you are just awesome !
Your language / pronunciation is Godlike !
I really enjoy watching your videos !
NEIN NEIN NEIN ! Awesome !
Bjorn please do a test with the LFP pack when summer comes as well, these LFP packs seem to be real gems!
It is not SR+ or Standard Plus. It is just Model 3 right now, according to the official website
I came here for my "Yo, what's up?"
Salin make great tyres mate
I also miss some of the old screens before the update. Larger charge rates, the consumption window at the bottom of the drive screen
I see you have the same gripes with v11 interface as me
Damn, I have to admit I'd like to have a Tesla 3 SR+ with the LFP battery... currently have another cheaper EV which is fine for me for the time being, but something like this could be my next EV... I just want a LFP battery in order not to fret about charging it up to 100% regularly, and longer lifetime for the battery.
I guess I'll wait a bit when there is less shortages and there's more competition so LFP Teslas (or some other LFP EVs) are not at premium prices anymore...
You don’t want to charge to 100% because charging speeds slow down fast above 80%
@@fabianstuckmann3611 I think that (charging speed gets slower above 80%) is relevant only to DC fast charging (50-350kW charging).
99% of the time I charge at my home or workplace with a normal plug at 1,76 kW power, so I don't think that is really affected whether I am charging below or above 80%. :) In practice it just means that I don't have to keep any charging limit e.g. at home, so that it doesn't accidentally charge over 80, unless I specifically tell it to for some longer trips.
Especially on weekends, I quite often go over 80% even with slow home charging. I drive around 120km-200km daily, sometimes not at all if e.g. working from home etc. Like right now, my EV is charged up to around 75%, so I have actually disconnected it altogether from my home slow charging power outlet.
@@ronaldraygun3386 I have a model 3 sr +.
I have regular trips from Mülheim to Brunswick (330km) and back.
you really want supercharging to be as fast as possible and you stop before 80% because you want to get going
This is especially important in winter when you lose range bc it’s cold
At home that’s definitely not a problem, but then again at home the charging speed above 7-8KW is basically meaningless because you have to sleep over night 😂 and then you are the bottleneck 😂😂
Don't wait, just go for it. You won't regret it coming from any other brand, I promise.
@@ChristophLeitl this is the way 😂
Looking at the consumption of M3, my fat E-tron isn’t efficient at all. About 300wh/km (5 degrees outside & 100km/h). But at the end of the day, a sedan can’t be compared to a SUV. (Same applies for an ICE) Fun fact, I am still saving roughly 40-70% on running cost compared to my old ICE SUV, so I don’t mind the high EV consumption. At the end of the day, I’m still saving money!
Model X is still way more efficient than fat e-tron. And Model X is also way bigger than e-tron.
Protect this man at all costs!!
for efficiency: Model 3 RWD, Model 3 LR, Model 3 Performance (assuming no LR comes with a single motor) The Model 3 Performance could just be called "Red Line edition"...
The official name is “Model 3 Unicorn Edition”. This refers to 62kwh battery with 239kw 3d1 or 3d6 motor
unfortunatly the unicorn edition is probably sold out, I got my unicorn around christmas from the latest 2021 Tesla Ship Paradise Ace... 2022 seem to come with the non-performance motor, but still will be plently fast .
thanks for the test ! very appreciated
@@solarwindnomad3083 right. The one on this test is the unicorn with J motor (can be spotted on vin).
2022 will come with R or S motor which are 209 kw standard binding or hairpin. Maybe it will be even more efficient…
I also have a black unicorn from Dec 21 (hyperion ray)
Mine is a December 2021 Unicorn version, 60kwh LFP with performance motor 🤓
Nice one Tesla and Model SR or SP or… 👍👍. Efficiency is king!!!
I kind of get the idea, that Bjørn LOVES V11 😀
right, "kind of..." If only Tesla was responsive to customer's preferences.
On the US version of the Tesla website, the SR+ is just called "Model 3." The three versions are "Model 3," "Model 3 Long Range" and "Model 3 Performance."
"RWD" would be a bad choice because the first Model 3's were Long Range RWD.
Nice, but i think ours is sufficient so far. But keeping up with competition is also important.
@@rogerstarkey5390
The price of a standard model3 has increased here in Denmark. It is over my limit now.
So I'm not sure where else I can comment, but we have a 2020 SR+ and it just got a warranty battery pack replacement, in which they've retrofitted us to the 60kWh LFP pack. However, the "usable" kWh (100-0) appears to have been unchanged from original - from what I gather it's around 52.5kWh. It would seem then that there's a 7.5kWh buffer after reaching 0% SOC. Not sure if they're going to do any OTA update to change this but something to point out I guess with these retrofits starting to occur!
For the poll, Tesla now calls this model "Rear-Wheel Drive" on their website when ordering a new car. Seems like they forgot to tell their software engineers about the change since inside the car it uses "Standard Plus". LOL
I feel like I'm watching Red October. "Give me 101% on the battery!!!!"
My ID4 (US spec, no heat pump) winter consumption is hovering around 220-250wh/km. Model 3 is a lot more efficient.
i was waiting for this video
Would be interesting to see a 1000 km in the Mercedes EQS 450+ model. Better range than the 580 and would be very cool to see.
Battery 101% yeah why not, why not 😂😂
Amazing results Bjorn. Everything is better, except for the software update I guess haha. I guess the new name is also a mess up due to the software update? I don't know, let's see what happens in the future with new updates. Thank you.
Hi Bjorn,
love your videos! Can you share one data log (I,V,T,P) of a full AC-charge from SOC90%? That would be very interesting, especially at these cold temperatures in Norway!
Welcome back in good cold Europe, Björn! If I Order the basic Model 3 in Germany now, how can I ensure to get the new 60kWh battery pack?
All come with the 60kWh pack (since late November). If they do not change it in the future that should be safe.
Efficiency king 👑
(V11 Nein Nein Nein Nein 😂)
Is it an idea to "normalise" you consumption figures to a particular temperture? For example the yearly average temp in Norge. Than it is easier to compare the different cars. Now are the numbers always cluthered by the temperature. You can use the general factors from Geotab to calculate a normalised consumption for every range test. I already do that in my EV spreadsheet and it gives good results. I know that the correction factor is different for every car but it differs not to much to be unuseful, i think.
In Sweden it's just called RWD now adays
This might be a stupid question, but I am hoping for a more elaborate response, so here it goes: how do you determine if SR is good enough for you or you should get the LR?
In the new trip meter, it does a regular rounding.
10 km displayed is anywhere between 9.5 and 10.5 km.
Same with kWh consumed (was already the case in the previous version)
Very unintuitive for a trip meter
Charge it to absolute infinity Graham's Number factorial percent
The low consumption is impressive when you consume the same as a Renault Zoe. The change in the menus is a real nightmare a lot of colleagues are complaining about this. Please Tesla be smart and bring it back to the previous settings at some points. It’s said to see how you downgrade something easy to something more complex. Thanks for the great review Bjorn and when I see the complexity of some menus my enthousiasm to buy the car goes down from 100 % to 75 %.
Tesla's user interface used to be one of the main assets. As a UX student, I found it to be brilliant, as my 60 year old father even understood it. Today, I can't claim the same. It's not horrible, but sometimes you don't wanna be clicking the screen to turn on simple things like defog, when you could do the same with one click before.
Top review 🤙💪🙏
Could the wheels be the reason for over reporting?
Wow V11 UI is so bad, I'm actually happy that I won't get it for my MCU 1 :D
I hope they bring back some features… Charging screen and Trip information was better before…
4:50 It is hard to understand why new charging UI leave almost half a page blank. :(
Zooming on small numbers on the left pane was hilarious. You can even see every pixel.
On the plus side you don't need to have that screen up anymore to see charging speed. You can have spotify or the web browsert for example up while still being able to see the speed. The charge screen is now only for setting charge limit and timers.
Might be a bit annoying for Bjørn when he is streaming. But for most people it is actually better. Unless you have really poor eyesight it is no problem to read the text.
lol.... i love the v11 too, fucking brilliant 😀 more clicks is ever perfect 😀
OH! Its marcusBil! I thought that was an "a"! 😂😂
Hey Bjørn. Can you please make a spreadsheet of software tests? Which cars that have different features and stuff like tesla with camp mode and which software that is just fluent and very easy to use and fast to click again like Tesla. Unlike Mercedes with layer on layer to change some settings that is just super old.
Hate v11 reduction on font size on things like, STATE of CHARGE! and other thigns... Please, Tesla, put the fonts back like they were!!!
The website calls the car Tesla Model 3 (though I've seen it in the used inventory to add) Rear Wheel Drive
Wau perfect
Nice vidéo ! Can’t wait to have mine next month … maybe with the performance motor 🤞?? , otherwise 6,1 sec 0-100km ! This still make a launch reaction ?? Hope so
Anything under 8sec is fast. Remember, American muscle cars were around 7-8 sec at best... It's plenty 😜
@@DG-uv3zw nice 😎
8:41 😂 this reaction
They're all in the left lane which s the wrong lane they should be in the right lane which is the correct lane
CSR China Standard Range…It includes battery type. That you tell the difference from the German Giga built SR’s (GSR). 🇨🇳 🇩🇪 🇺🇸 🤨
I had a problem with my 60kwh SR+ when it arrived and the regen was disabled, I was astonished at how far it rolled when I took the power off, they must have worked magic to achieve such little resistance- I wonder if that has anything to do with the efficiency.
When is the V11 UI pros and cons video be released 😎 ?
You mean the "V11 cons and no pros" video, right?
@@bjornnyland exactly 😁
Some highlights:
+
The quick view of light/wiper settings
Quick launch
Faulty tire pressure when u don't have TPMS 😁
On the other side it's everything else.
Not functioning seat heater
AC is turn off
Not able to access fog lights
U don't see if Sentry/dashcam is active etc etc 😎
It feels like a Windows engineer has taken over the UI design. It’s horrible.
The only good thing is the blind spot camera view when you put the indicators on but for us RHD people it’s obscured behind my hand.
My Cadillac CTS can do 500 miles at 80 mph, allowing me to go from Las Vegas to LA and back without refueling. I want LiFePo for its 100% charge level without degradation, but I guess I also need a 100kWh battery with it in order to have the range I like.
Don't let up on the new software, it is sheeeeeit.
Yeah V11 seems to be the worst update yet... i keep my v10 as long as possible...
Very impressive in the cold. Charging seems good too. So Sunday evening gets busy at charging stations? Are there any other times where it gets busy?
Friday afternoon
V11 seems like such a clusterfuck
The Tesla should be called Hugo.
Boss
Hey, whats up Björn! When will you test the first Model Y from Giga Berlin? March, April. When will it arrive at marcusbil?
Bigger Battery is better for us.😄............ (But talk only,not real product come out (like solid-state battery)- nor more Bug like some brands issue = No need)
Will you do a video about the marvel R soon:)?
I've had my car plugged in for 2 hour's , no kW have gone into the car as the solar output won't cover charging and AC. I'd prefer to be cool.
The dissapointment when the Leaf droven past bjørn😅
It looks as if this Model 3 Standard LFP 60kWh has finally beaten the 'classic' Ioniq 28 for efficiency?
Sr+ did that a year ago...old news
My 2021 standard range plus lost all regen after installing winter tires… not sure why I’ve driven 500 km and it’s still not back. Anyone have insight for why
Me wants it! 😁
should be named Model 3 Lithium Iron Maiden
🤣🤣🤣it’s the pooping man -4°C
Radar or no radar?
Do you know the exact name of the wheels, they look great?
I think it's branded as PH aero in Norway.
Thanks for your answer but I cannot find them actually :/
Tesla Software update be like Twitter.
"You want an Edit button? Nah, we rather remove stuff!"
Can you tel the exact name of the wheels? I cannot find the maker, thanks!
Ask marcushjul
W8... So there are 2 versions on the 2021 SR+? And one of them has a slightly larger battery?
What is the difference between this one and the 2021 SR+ LFP MiC? According to Bjørn's chart, they are quite different!
Same motor, bigger battery, became standard in Oct 2021 SR+ models. 2022 RWD builds have the same battery but a less powerful motor, it will be interesting to see how they do.
@@adrianleitch6996 Thanks for that info Adrian.
So any M3 SR+ produced after October 2021 would have the larger battery? Even the MiC models?
Is there any way to identify them - or is production date later than October a guarantee?
@@theaimuse I can't speak for the US models but Shanghai factory swapped over mid October to the larger battery. So a MiC Model 3 from late October onwards in the SR+/RWD Models only (not LR or P) should all be the 60kW LFP model. BTF1 is the code for the 60kW battery that Tesla uses.
@@adrianleitch6996 Thank you for clarifying Adrian. Appreciate it!
Does this model have already the Tesla Vision based cruise control without radars? How do you see it fitting the nordic winter weather conditions? Would be interesting to see a Tesla Björn test on it.
Seems likely not yet. Vision based is connected to FSD and region...
@@DG-uv3zw Ok. That’s good. 👍
v11 is a triumph of form over function. It looks great but is terrible to use. I hope Tesla realise the mistake.
Why is it slower if it's only 20kgs heavier?
Is the "charging over 101%" due to Tesla not being able to calculate LFP battery remaining capacity correctly (which is why Tesla says you should regularly charge it full so that it can calibrate its estimation)?
So when you reached "100%", that was not the actual 100% yet where you can charge? Did the system calibrate itself after that so that when it finally stopped charging, that was the new 100%?
Man. Elon should just give you 1 Mio. € haha. All of your videos are just forcing me to have a Tesla M3 60 kWh in the next years. MAybe in 2 years there will be a 65 kwh Version damn
Yup, V11 software is a huge step backwards.
have I done the math correctly: 190 kw/km is equivalent to 305 kw/mile ?
First of all: it is Wh/km or kWh/100km.
And yes, your calculations are correct. 305 Wh/mi or 30,5 kWh/mi
Hi Bjorn, front radar, thought all radar have been removed and no radar on current Tesla's? You just never know these days.
That applies to some US cars only.