Tesla Model 3 SR+ 60 kWh 1000 km challenge
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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2022
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The driving song is actually a BANGER in this video
I am not totally sure why, but I get this very warm fuzzy feeling, whenever I check out a new interesting Bjorn video on the youtubes. Like meeting a good friend or something.
Thank you Bjorn for your hard work. 🙂
Every single day :D
I think it's because Bjørn, much like Tesla in this challenge, is very consistent.
There will be (in no particular order):
"Like a baawwss"
"E-tron go home!"
"Shiiieet"
"Like a Ninja"
Although the sexual innuendos have largely disappeared, along with Gay Pop Radio.
I miss them a little I must confess 😬
Hes married... ok?
Lol
@@olabergvall3154 And "Type 2 discharge"
@@almdrs I know that, he can still listen to any radio station of his choosing (or his car's choosing, as the case may be)
Holy guacamoly, that music made me think i was watching TRON the movie.
Can't find the name of that track? Anyone an idea? Bjorn?
It’s nice to watch these videos by Bjorn, gets you excited about owning a EV one day
I don't know how many times I've been watching this newer M3 LFP Videos....finally today I ordered my Model 3, thanks for all the detailed videos about my upcomming new car Bjorn :)
Great video as always. Just drove my Spectre ( Model 3 LR) from Prague to Szczecin in Poland today. 510km in 5.5 hrs with 3-5 degrees, snowstorm in northern CZ and rain throughout and enormous wind, mainly sideways and head wind. c9nsumption was a flat 200Wh/km. About 50% of the time at 120kmh (which was 220Wh/km compared to normally 200Wh/km this winter. Will go back doing mainly 110kmh since the conditions are anyway not great and see how much difference it makes. For now it seemed substantially (like 170Wh/km at 110kmh). So seems to fit your results in a just regular day setup, nothing planned.
Thank you! Your content is awesome. Keep these LFP videos coming!
Your points about Tesla and legacy manufacturers is so true. We had 2 Audi Q4 when launched in the Uk mid last year. We switched one into Tesla Model 3 SR in December that you are driving in the vid and it’s night and day with regard to cold weather driving. The other Q4 has gone and Tesla Model Y coming soon, although that doesn’t get an LFP
what do you mean white night and day ?
@@sunejepsen there is a big difference. The Q4 was doing 4 miles/kw in the summer and around 2 miles/kw when it got cold (7c or less - which I know isn’t cold!). The Tesla over 5 when warm and still over 4 when below freezing…👍
Would you agree the build quality, fit and finish is night and day worse on the Tesla? Or the auto wipers? Or auto main beam dipping? I’d agree the Model 3 is more efficient but it’s not good enough to warrant changing. The MEB platform is getting an update soon that doesn’t heat the battery until it’s needed so the winter efficiency will be much better.
@@scottwills4698 Nope, I wouldn't agree with you statement about build quality, fit and finish. Almost everything is optional in a Q4. And included in a M3.
@@scottwills4698 before the Tesla I had Audi cars for 15 years, I can honestly say no problems on build with the Tesla. If anything I was disappointed with the Q4 interior feel which felt like a lower range car from several years ago. No probs with the wipers, but the auto “matrix” lights are no where near as good as Audi. That said, as the hardware is there I’m sure software at some point will sort that, although the auto dipping is a bit rubbish now!
10:55: Delta 150kW Ultra-Fast Chargers comes with optional a 200A or 400A CCS cable.
Mer have almost exclusively two 400A CCS cables on their chargers, while BKK mostly have one 200A and one 400A per charger.
The 200A cable is better for some older people whom can have problem with the heavier 400A cable.
Thanks for all as usual, and especially for the background music choice. I Shazam while watching and find some good ones thanks to you !
@ Björn i know would be a hell lot of work. But a table with summer and winter coparision would be awesome. Like the top 10 cars of summer run vs the same top 10 cars in a winter run. :)
@@G_man_ fair, but some cars needed to be retested. imagine stats for every car sumer & winter comparision. I guess you can find it aorund youtube, but would be still worth watching. :)
Loved your choice in music in this one!
You’re preaching to the choir with me! I love my SR+, and I know it is a very worthy long distance car. I know that because I’ve done my own 650 mile trips, both solo and with (my) Wifey and two teenage boys.
Keep up the great videos (loving that techno rock music!), and the great tests!
that was awesome....really like those 1000 km videos.
Sailun seems to be
reasonable winter tire manufacturer what comes to price/performance/effiency. Not so silent but good bang for buck. I have studdet Sailun Ice Blazer WST3 and going great!
You are a legend, sir.
Excellent! Video and Result
I noticed the missing fraction is a ROUND( ), not a TRUNC( )…
When it pass 117 km, it’s actually 116.5 km.
You will notice that when resetting trip meter, it switches to 1 km after 500 m
@@possibilityspace I’m from Belgium. No Safety Score for me
Tell me you're a programmer without telling me. High five to a fellow coder. Bjorn the same obviously
@@jeales895 Indeed, can’t hide it 😂 developer and data scientist
Fellow programmer here! Funny to see this comment after having a discussion on this very topic earlier in the week.
As a programmer I would choose round() but for a display in a car a trunc() is way more intuitive.
Thank you Bjørn good job
6:00
Smart Bjorn covering the speed so that we cant see how fast he is going :P
Was about to comment the same thing 😅
Always have your passport available.
Thanks for all of your work doing all these tests! I'm due to order my next car later this year and it'll be my first BEV.
Looking very highly likely I'll be getting a Tesla M3 SR - it seems to do really well and it'll be a great upgrade from my current dino-juice car.
Waiting for it, M3P(propulsion) expected in March
Like the driving music!
Damn kick ass music! 🤘
Tks for the awesome video!
1:20 Playback Error is my favourite song ever!
For some reason the 150kw non Tesla chargers I wanted to use here in Denmark, aren’t in the navigation so I couldn’t preheat and I had to “navigate” to the nearest supercharger as well. I wish I could select “navigate to fast charger, preheat”
Thanks for the video Bjorn. Do you think you have enough data to compare the 55kwh and 60kwh models, or would you need to do the tests in the same temps?
My average overall consumption is 134Wh/km over 9 months ownership and 9000km (M3 RWD). This car is very economical!
Well done “little Model 3”!!! Tesla for the win!!!
I usually put the bottle in the door when it's cold out. That keeps the drink cold. If you really want to keep it extra cold, put that hat over the bottle while in the door. 👍
Great video bjorn
The Cyberpunk music was awesome !
Proving by doing, thanks so much, Octovalve rules. :)
Thanks Bjorn
Thanks Bjorn! Keep doing the Tesla SR+ video comparisons between LFP and the NMC/NCA! They are very informative and I’m very curious how the two compare for the life of the car. Weight differences, daily use, charging, drivability, tire wear etc etc.
In Sweden, we tried navigating a Polestar 2 with ABRP and we went around charging at 45kw :D
Yeeeees. Looking forward to watch this
The comments about winter/summer experience being similar is very reassuring.
At 110km/h speeds :)
@@andreibuhaceanu that‘s pretty fast
@@airestocky 160km/h is pretty fast. 110km/h is slowish on a highway in East Europe where the limit is 130km/h and most of the people are soong 140km/h with no stress.
6:17 It was slowing down because navigation wants you to take the exit :)
Great proof that you can use the car just as effectively in winter (uk version). Also both were essentially dry roads, so better comparable. We'd probably have water involved, and sticky wet salt it seems this year on the motorways.
How can avg temp be 17 for the 2021 TM3 SR+ MIC? When temp range is 4 - 11. (I suspect type-o, should be 7?)
Jay, was waiting for this one. Getting the Model 3 S+ 60kwh soon.
Same. 60kWh, Heated steering wheel, Double pane windows, Ryzen CPU. Doesn’t get better than this 🤩
Vented seats 😅
Lucky man 👍
@@UndefeatedDeity But less torque ☹️
7 months later it finally arrived. Really happy with it.
@ Bjorn. great video. Can you also do the test with the SR +, Fremont version. (NOT LFP battery). Is the great result. related to the Heat pomp or the LFP battery? thanks Derk
Hello Björn. 117 km reported on the screen can be in fact 116.5 km, due to rounding rules…
Hope they will be soon a new software version. This V11 is so disappointing
this is very impressive. if I was shopping for a M3 I would get the SR+ LFP which is the best value, and compromise between charging speed, decent range, ability bro charge to 100% without dégradation.
I'm just a bit surprised that the LR still outperforms by 45min. is it due to weather ? or not optimal stops ?
according to charging speed tests, the LR does 20-80% in 33min , the LFP does 20-80%, meaning th LFP actually charges >15% MORE miles/min between 20 and 80%
if the better result of the LR is due to using the higher peak charging speed at low SoC, the LFP could still be faster in real life, not draining bathe battery so close to 0%
I still can't stand the interior, but this car is amazing. Lowest specs car, reasonable price, supercharger access and just an incredible efficiency, even in winter. I'm not a Tesla fanboy, and there are many points I don't like about both the manufacturer and its products but... I have to say it: Great job, Tesla!
I feel the same way. I got a Kia Niro EV instead of a tesla for those reasons too but boy - they do a good job.
lack of HUD and lack of android auto/apple carplay along with quality issues and sky high insurance is why i haven’t made the switch to a Model 3. i just don’t feel like paying €900 per year for the insurance alone 😅 i’m hoping Nio will be cheaper to own and their new LFP hybrid is better for Scandinavians 👍🏻
I LOVE my Model 3 interior. I’ve had cluttered “luxury” cars, the minimalist Tesla interior is so much better!
I wasn't a fan of the interior to start with but I've got used to it, it's actually so easy to get on with apart from the windscreen wiper controls which are sht. When I get into another car it feels so cluttered
I honestly don’t know why a high tech car like the Tesla has fake wooden trim on it. It’s the first thing I’d change!
170kw is the limit on the base rear wheel drive model while LR and the P can charge at up to 250kw.
... but 170 kW can only be reached when the battery pack temperature is about 40°C (that´s the comfort zone for the LFP battery)
efficiency is crazy on those new M3. with our 2019 M3 LR we could never go further than 250km on a full charge in winter
main reason i sold mine lol. Freeway driving kills the range
I hardly drive 50miles on a charge when it's around 20F.. 😄 I'm sure I could do more in one leg but usually it's maybe 5x 10miles drives where the heating has a lot of work to hear up the cabin everytime + keeping fog out.
@@geemy9675 What car are you driving with those 'effeciencies' ?
@@flanniganflintson11352015 fiat 500e
@@geemy9675 Ah well, therein lies the exxplanation :P A lot has happened batterywise since 2015.. thought you were driving a 'newer' car,, with those ratings it'd be a trash investment for sure hehe
that is impressive!
All the other aspects of the SR+ have become very competitive but unfortunately I live in an area that needs AWD so must buy the LR. SR seems great for those living in warmer climates or better road services.
What area?
That wind will hurt your consumption A LOT! (Even crosswind!)
Correct
Nice coverup with the passport👌😎 great video of the best car for money
20:01 Must be misprint in the spreadshiiiiet, T avg 17, but min-max 4-11
Hi Bjorn. Trying to get a fair comparison between the range of the M3 LFP and our Hyundai Kona 64kwh, your test of the Kona was at -15c so can’t really compare. With the cars having practically the same weight and the Kona having 8kwh more to play with I feel sure that the Kona will have a better range still, ABRP experiments seem to agree, I’m thinking the Kona is good for an additional 50km, but how do you feel about that?
Standard range plus have front passenger power button or its a manual lever?
Great video as usual! I just ordered a RWD M3 LFP but I live in Montreal where for 2 months, the winter can be pretty harsh. I don't charge at home as I own an apartment & I park in the street (there is a public charger 50 meters from home). I was wondering if you could do a test of how much charge do you lose overnight (unplugged) with this car in cold & very cold temperatures? I have only seen 1 video from a guy in Saskatchewan but that was with an NCA pack (which I know are a bit better in winter) & he had sentry mode on for some reason, which definitely ruined the test. Many thanks & love the channel!
I hardly lose any % overnight, but Dutch winters aren’t that harsh. How was your experience?
This new standard range is hard to resist if buying with the head and not heart.
honestly if you like making several short stops on long trips like I do..range is not an issue and charging speed beats the LR
there is still a few scenarios that don't work that well with an EV like a 200+200miles day trip where you stop at a place without charging. but hey if you need to stop 15-20 minutes at a supercharger it's not the end of the world. you would probably have stopped for gas anyway
Is there any chance to test Volvo XC40 P6 single motor version ?
Björn please try the 1000km challenge with a MG ZS EV Long Range pleaseeeee😊
Is it posible for you to tell us what different charging sesion cost when you do 1000 km challange. Thnx
Stock Model 3 from the factory is the best value for money, hands down period.
Amazing results in the "cold" 🙂
Hey Björn, I noticed a mistake in your sheet for the 2021 model 3, it sayt Temps wer 4-11°C, but average Temp was 17°?
What was the net capacity of August's Model 3?
Excellent, shows the LFP is a very good performance battery, plus with long cycle life the car will hold resale value and last a lifetime. Hopefully get 1 million kms, 4 times as much life as a smelly fossil car.
I just think that the rest of this Tesla is not able to survive such a long period. Suspension motors MCU and a lot more things...
@@louis3481 True, but those parts are a lot cheaper to replace, especially in the future when there is a larger second hand parts market.
@@AORD72 i just think we will have the same Situation in the Future that we have today. No one wants to buy a 20 year old car. Thats why it will get into recycling even if there is rhe possibility to use it as it is. The tech is old in 10 years. We have today a lot of good and driving cars the european export to africa where they get recyceled or just not get touched, because nobody wants those cars anymore. I think lfp is better in busses and in cargos. Give me the best performing battery that survives 400.000km because thats just enough.
Cool video but little bit warm weather to be "proper" winter" test. Should be at least -5-10C...
Blame global warming
Great trick with the passport :D Nothing to see, nothing to see, all the time 110km/h :)
Tekno Björn in da house
I love your videos! Thank you! What kind of rims are used on this model 3?
It`s embarrassing for all other manufacturers how efficient Tesla is!
Hyundai would like to know your location.
@@johanhalvarsson2148 True, ioniq was great( despite much less power vs M3). Kona very solid, but ioniq 5 is really bad at consumption.
@@DG-uv3zw ioniq 5 is an SUV so there's no surprise there. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Build stupid cars, get crappy consumption.
@@johanhalvarsson2148 yeah...still much less efficient then model x also... But, guess people still prefer conventional design over actually carrying about ecology and efficiency...
@@DG-uv3zw the late craze on SUVs isn't so much a manufacturer problem but a high income, don't give a shit about the environment people that buy the cars.
Like a Hyundai boss said a couple of years ago: "Electric cars are great, they make it so we can sell SUVs that we can make money from." Essentially saying people overpay for SUVs. A bit like Elon Musk saying that model y will be 10% bigger than model 3 so it'll cost 10% more. At the same time he had already said they share 75% of the components which should conclude that 25% of the components are 10% bigger,a 2,5% increase in cost if components had a 1:1 cost ratio. In reality, the chassi isn't the most expensive parts.
Hey bjorn, when are you testing the Meganne E-Tech electric??!
Did you navigate to a supercharger to get it to preheat? I haven't figured how to get it to preheat any other way which in Australia is an issue as often there is no supercharger to navigate to.
The rave music makes me feel joung
How does Tesla app recognise non Tesla Supper/fast chargers to preheat the battery?
Another great vid/test. While we love our 2020 LR AWD Y w/Performance Boost we are anxiously awaiting the new Y with the 4680 batteries.
Please do a 1000km Challenge in the Dacia Spring! 🥺
good job! Which Motor is installed? The „old“ Performance or the new less torque hairpin motor?
Old
You should do a range test on the new BMW i4
Hi Bjørn, thanks for proving an important point. That's one of the many reasons I bought my Tesla. Btw later today I will go on my longest trip (> 400 km) yet with my 60 kWh SR+. Now I have a consumption and charge speed to compare it against. Best regards from Germany, oh, and great music.
tesla for the win! Even my 2013 model S drives fast in winter
Thumbs up. Andreas Haehnel did a 1000km test for a 60kWh MIC LFP SR last night in 9h 17minutes. He had basically perfect conditions with a temperature of 22 degrees, unrestricted clear autobahns, pre-heated battery and fast chargers delivering maximum possible charge all the way. His only issue was somthing about cruise control not working at 170kmph.
Keep in mind that his 1000 km run can *not* be compared to my 1000 km challenge since he drives at higher speed.
@@bjornnyland Acknowledged, but a lot of Germans and Dutch think in terms of how quickly can I get to Berlin, Stuttgart, Hannover or Munich which are at the four corners of the Country or down to the Riviera and it is impressive to see any EV being able to cover big distances in similar times to a 3 series or C class.
In real world, you can't go too fast in Germany during daytime because of one thing: stau
Loving your music choices!
Is that the 4680 lfp or 2170 lfp
Hei Bjørn, for cars that charge reasonably fast, the speed you drive between the charging stops has a lot to say for the total time needed. You say that you drive speed limit + VAT. Do you keep VAT similar for all the different cars you test?
No
No? Then those cars tested with higher VAT will always have a shorter total time. Not really a fair comparison ...
Nice !
does cabin temperature have a significant impact on the 1000 km time? do you usually keep all cars at a similar temperature in winter?
Not really. 3 Wh/km * 120 km/h = 360 W which should be difference in temperature inside cabin.
In 1000 km, 3 Wh/km = 3 kWh
To charge 3 kWh, you need only 1-2 minutes
Can you navigate to other charging stations than Tesla to have the pre-heating? (If i've understood it well you mention this at the first stop, but it's not totally clear).
Yes
I would love Tesla EV motors and batteri / software in a other car, I cant sit in a Model 3 :( Floor is way to high.
Any chance of doing a 1000km test on a BMW i3 REX? That would make for a fun video.
i have seen 170kw at V3 with the 60kwh model 3
167 on aral pulse with 55 kWh all the time. Björn charged really slow. Normally I drop at 60% below 100kw. I did this 10 times this winter. Perfer Aral stations. they are better located...
Expecting my Model 3 RWD in March. After watching this I feel confident that I have made the right decision.
On long range trip you might feel no difference between summer and winter on LFP, but a lot of ppl complain that on daily commutes you do - no regen.
Set charge limit to 60-70 % and you will have regen.
@@bjornnyland true!
i wish there would be a boost option for the 60kwh model 3… i would easy pay 1500$ for 5,4sek 0-100 instead of 6,1sek …
Me too.
No real point in this. Since last updates: if there is a little water spill on the road, power is reduced.
@@davids.6671 yeah. but people live also in regions, that don’t have often slippy roads😄
How fast was you driving in this 1000km challenge?
Ioniq 38kw in winter time is steadily 18kw per 100km, about 20- 23km per 10%...And charges super slow...
I had an Ioniq 38kWh and changed because of this to an ID.3 (Tesla not allowed as company car).
But the ID.3 has a very poor consumption compared to the ioniq. Depending on the situation, its always 2...5kwh/100km more. I wonder what the car does with the energy. I want back the Ioniq with just a better battery.
@@wasserdrucker6227 Its called the ioniq 6. Better efficiency too.
@@samusaran7317 Yes i will order this next year.
Still ahead of the pack.
Why only the consumption without charging lost are showed?
Standard on all EVs, not just Tesla.
Duck face car always win efficiency
That's why Japanese Shinkansen has it.
@@bjornnyland yes exactly
Game over 2050 compilation
Are all of the SR+'s being produced now 60kWh?
yes with LFP