Alfa Romeo 159 Buyers Guide

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  • Heres a Guide on buying an Alfa Romeo 159, what engines to go for and common faults to look out for. thanks for watching.
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    Also if you have any projects or broken Alfa for sale and your within 100 miles of Walsall west midlands please get in touch
    as I'm always looking for new projects to make videos on.
    thanks Neil at Italia autos.
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  • @besmirmarku7602
    @besmirmarku7602 3 роки тому +143

    This car never gets old, incredible

    • @amehu
      @amehu 3 роки тому

      With 300 pounds chip and 50 more horses it's spot on, that's for 2.4 jtdm

  • @rpkruizinga9599
    @rpkruizinga9599 6 днів тому +1

    Oh and this garage is amazing, he knows so much about these.

  • @axelmett
    @axelmett 3 роки тому +51

    Been watching this channel for a while now, very informative and complete.
    I own an Alfa 159 1.9jtdm 8v 4door/sedan version from december 2005 I believe (previously owned by my father who bought it new. 'grigio titanio' color, red leather interior). I am driving it since 2009, owning it myself since 2012. Still my 'weekly driver' (I mostly use my road bike or motorcycle for daily transportation).
    To give every one an honest input, main problems that did occur:
    1) power steering reservoir (failing filter?) and fluid changed under warranty I believe, in 2009. Not really a big deal, however a design flaw of the inner filter, certainly a problem in colder climates;
    2) had to replace the condensor twice (pretty expensive). Apparantly it gets easily punctured by 'road stones' as the air intake in front bumper is pretty low. I did install dark metal gratings onto the air intakes at front bumper after second replacement, (third ... ) condensor has been fine ever since. But this is not an Alfa specific problem, however design of air intake on front bumper does speed up this problem occuring;
    3) the steering lock mechanism has failed twice. Car refuses to go in start mode if that happens. Dashboard doesnt even light up. This happened once in 2019 which I then had replaced by a refurbished unit. A second time a couple of months ago, after which I disassembled the steering lock, removed the mechanism altogether (nylon gear and pin) and had a latching relais soldered as replacement of the mechanism ... . Has been fine ever since. A lot of information can be found on alfaowner.com - how to fix/bodge steering wheel mechanism;
    4) Rear left window mechanism was changed as it failed last year.
    These are the only four ''abnormal'' problems I/my father had with this car since it was new. Otherwise only normal maintenance was performed. Currently have around 250.000kms on the clock.
    The engine is ''chiptuned'' also (squadra-tuning.nl - medio tuning), EGR disabled, ever since 2013/2014. I am considering to go for the massimo tuning, just for the fun of it.
    This is a pretty reliable vehicle, with a very reliable engine. I only use this car for longer distances, and then let it warm up to ideal operating temperature before really driving it in higher rpm's/more ''sporty'', for which even a modern diesel is best used for (general rule: it takes twice the time of the coolant coming to temperature).
    I am a pretty defensive driver, I try to be a ''gentleman'' in traffic. However, I do test the car in corners at higher speeds, just for the fun of it, and do try to pull-up to higher rpm's from time to time.
    Even after all those years, I still want to keep it and happily drive it every time. Even the red leather interior is in pretty good condition (I clean and condition it at least once yearly, with premium products).
    This is a very comfortable car in my opinion, with a sporty feel, and pretty reliable. Like every other car: check the service history before buying it, or at least buy it from someone 'reliable''.
    Every year it passes the obligatory vehicle inspection test in Belgium without any remarks (not that they are really strict in their testing, but still). Even the current car mechanic who does the maintenance since a couple of years has no remarks: he advises to keep on driving it. No noticeable oil consumption, gearbox and clutch still original and working. No bizarre noises or anything. There is wear and tear that you feel while driving (certainly since we have driven it since new, you can feel the difference), mostly in the suspension part. But nothing serious and certainly nothing to change/worry about.
    If you take proper care of his car, it will take proper care of you.
    If you can buy one used and in certain good condition: do not hesitate.
    Hope that this is informative for anyone. Otherwise free publicity ;) .
    I anyone has further questions: I'll try to keep an eye on this comment in the next few months.

    • @voidgamingtcwz2105
      @voidgamingtcwz2105 2 роки тому

      Mileage?

    • @axelmett
      @axelmett 2 роки тому +2

      @@voidgamingtcwz2105 Currently 245.000 km (as such around 152.000 miles?)

    • @jasonparfitt4299
      @jasonparfitt4299 2 роки тому +2

      Honest review of your car ,I have the 159 tbi 1.75cc mapped up to 240bhp from 200.Overal a good car with the best 159 engine in my humble opinion.Problems so far broken headlight adjuster switch which caught me out as it is now a MOT failure since 2016 (never even used it as I'm a solo driver ).The coolant bottle is brittle on these cars and i needed a new one.The gearbox are not the best Gm m32 a bit knotty and Known to go on high mileage.Also the glass in the wing mirror nesting corrodes on the 159 and the Brera .Stone chips are a bugger as itsa large bonnet area I have given up touching them up! And my petrol sensor has recently been replaced as the reading was all over the place,apparently this does happen on the 159s.Apart from that I love the drive and the look of the car .

    • @axelmett
      @axelmett Рік тому +6

      For those interested, to give an update: meantime still only 250.000 kms ... . 'Problems' in the meantime: several wishbone bushes are starting to 'fail'. Still within margin, but steering isnt as 'sharp' anymore, as well as you can 'feel'' and hear noticeable 'smacking'of suspension/wishbones around the car when going over speed bumps etcetera. Not a real problem, but am considering to have the bushes replaced. Another thing to note: the weather seals inside all the doors have failed, resulting into rain water getting into the car/cabine (certainly during longer heavy rain). This is visible through a 'raintrail'going over door trim into footwell, as well as wet carping ... . I followed clear instructions on youtube to replace the deteriorated seal by an all weather silicone kit (did it yesterday to all 4 doors), and after one night of heavy rain: no more leakage inside the cabine. All in all still very pleased with this car.

    • @tommylascelles1918
      @tommylascelles1918 9 місяців тому +1

      Excellent additional information on the 159 from your and the previous owners' long experience. I enjoyed reading this, thank you.

  • @RobS32
    @RobS32 5 років тому +26

    I ran my 3.2 Q4 QTronic as my daily driver for 3 years, even towed my 7.31 meter Caravan with no issues. Yes one broken coil prompted me to swap all of them for the eibach coils all round and I can vouch for handling and drive it’s a true Alfa in every way. Reliable no trouble at all pipercross air filters kept things fresh. You buy an Alfa to drive something different and the drivers make the drive. If you don’t like the drive buy something else 😎

  • @S-u-p-a
    @S-u-p-a 4 роки тому +46

    2.4d is the boss engine. If 5 cylinder noise is agricultural, make me a farmer

    • @hdg7201
      @hdg7201 2 роки тому

      İ am a proud owner of a 159 2.4 jtdm Sportswagon.
      Amazing car in every way.

    • @malcolmhardwick4258
      @malcolmhardwick4258 2 роки тому

      I like the sound of the 5 cylinder diesel jtdm

    • @hdg7201
      @hdg7201 2 роки тому

      @@malcolmhardwick4258 yeah great sound for a diesel

  • @garyfoskett4745
    @garyfoskett4745 4 роки тому +16

    Very informative, very comprehensive. Thanks.

  • @hdg7201
    @hdg7201 2 роки тому +5

    2.4 JTDm is the best you can get. The sound of that 5 cylinders is amazing.

  • @PinkyRacing
    @PinkyRacing 5 років тому +42

    159 is now my longest relationship i had with a car. We count in km`s, so purchased out of lease with 179 000 km, now 340 000 km ( 210 000 miles ) Heavy front ( 2.4 first; sersies ) but best autobahn car i drove. some mayor issu`s with F40 transmission, subframe and steering rack but after replacing now a verry happy owner.
    Thanks for your nice Vid`s !! Erik from Assen Netherlands.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +1

      doing well.

    • @ShoneTheGenije
      @ShoneTheGenije 4 роки тому +3

      That's odd. usually people are complaining about Vauxhall M32 transmission on 1.9. What is the F40 issue?

    • @stevenjr6582
      @stevenjr6582 4 роки тому

      What is your opinion on this 2.4 engine? Any problems with turbo?

    • @universalcitizen7544
      @universalcitizen7544 3 місяці тому

      @@ItaliaAutos Great video mate! So TI is a trim level, regardless of the engine? I mean can you have TI with a V6 3.2 engine? thanks

  • @davidhaggerty864
    @davidhaggerty864 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the video.
    Had my 159 for 7 years and very few problems.
    Now at 199455 miles.
    Had bonnet catch and ERG problems. Always get the tracking checked when tyres get changed. Battery has been replaced 3 times - need to buy heavy duty one.
    This years MOT ball joint so new lower wishbone. Want to get to 200k.
    Going to look at your video for some tips.

  • @gasperrecnik1256
    @gasperrecnik1256 5 років тому +19

    Great job with the buyers guide, but I do have to say that you missed one of the bigger problems, the problematic M32 gearbox. Still as I said, very nice overview of the things to look at when buying one of these.

  • @donraja7862
    @donraja7862 5 років тому +49

    Best Alfa Mehcanic I’ve ever seen good man love your videos keep up the good work

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому

      thank you.

    • @stuhollyhead4294
      @stuhollyhead4294 4 роки тому

      My old next door neighbour was a great alfa mechanic Ade worked at WAD in Wolverhampton but lost touch when we moved etc.. must be a midland thing 🤔

  • @raymzlife237
    @raymzlife237 4 роки тому +3

    I realy love this car😎i can watch it whole day.👌

  • @churchofgod4016
    @churchofgod4016 Рік тому

    Thank you for that very very useful report. I have an opportunity to buy one and so could fulfill a childhood dream of finally getting into an Alfa.

  • @emilz85
    @emilz85 Рік тому

    Just got my 2.4 TI Q-Tronic, love it!

  • @rpkruizinga9599
    @rpkruizinga9599 6 днів тому

    I had a 1.9 jtdm, now years later still miss it. Now looking for a Tbi

  • @williamlewis8741
    @williamlewis8741 Рік тому

    many thanks for your review. i hope to find the one that you recommended. cheers

  • @molluscturtle
    @molluscturtle 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! Going to look at one of these tomorrow

  • @CuoreSportivo
    @CuoreSportivo 5 років тому +8

    i love your videos neil. i'm glad i found your channel. i have a '99 1.6 t-spark 146 so i'd like to see more videos on t-spark engines and 145/146, thank you.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +4

      Thanks. Episode update on my 145 will be up in the next few weeks.

    • @CuoreSportivo
      @CuoreSportivo 5 років тому +2

      @@ItaliaAutos can't wait for that!

  • @spartacusmentor9832
    @spartacusmentor9832 3 роки тому +4

    Terrific video Neil,finally moving away from the Mk4 Golf collection to get hold of a 159,keep up the great work

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  3 роки тому +1

      Good stuff. Thanks for watching

  • @155stw
    @155stw 4 роки тому +12

    A 2.4 JTDm Q4 SW would be my pick for an all round family car. But a 1.9 JTDm SW would be ok, but probably could do with a 190 bhp ECU reprogramming.

  • @2WheelSam
    @2WheelSam Рік тому +1

    Great video, very tempted for a ti estate they look wonderful. But think I’ll miss my focus st

  • @FrankishKnight
    @FrankishKnight 4 роки тому +2

    Hey man, I am loving your content, I have a small problem with my 159 1.9 jtd SW, when cruising at 90km/h I have a continuous noise coming from the front, sounds like a helicopter from far away, the further I am from 90kms the lesser the sounds, par example at 100 or 80 there is no noise, also there is like sound of jet engine coming from behind the dash when I first start the car, I think it's brakes related because when I press the brake pedal it goes away, sometimes comes back when I'm driving... IDK the car is either actually alive or haunted, she makes a lot of stuff but does it occasionally, sometimes she is perfect for a week, then trows an engine code, then is fine for another month...

  • @FullBoostJ4
    @FullBoostJ4 5 років тому +6

    Excellent guide Neil.

  • @Fireman9ify
    @Fireman9ify 3 роки тому

    Always fancied one of those, nice looking car

  • @kins749
    @kins749 5 років тому +2

    Really useful, thanks!

  • @greengrass9572
    @greengrass9572 5 років тому +23

    The 159 is actually built on a big floor pan, ment for a bigger car, the next segment up, but for some reason ( maybe the joint venture with GM, minds were changed).
    Also a German oversaw the development of the car, and it has thicker glass to eliminate wind noise.

    • @maraneloservice2828
      @maraneloservice2828 5 років тому +5

      It was planed to be RWD so it was strengthened in the rear axle hence the increased weight

    • @kris8742
      @kris8742 5 років тому +2

      Racist

    • @123fourfive5
      @123fourfive5 3 роки тому +10

      @@maraneloservice2828 I wish the 159 was rear wheel drive. Imagine those things drifting

  • @Massimilianop
    @Massimilianop 4 роки тому +8

    One of the best, if not the best looking car ever seen! I just love it, the only thing I don't like, and it is an stupid one, is that the boot opening is to small

  • @paulchapman7275
    @paulchapman7275 5 років тому

    My lovely 10 plate white ti saloon has developed an issue with the rear sensors only working intermittently like you point out here, when it's not working it comes up with a 'parking help unavailable' message on the dash, any ideas what the issue will be? I'm thinking maybe a failed sensor or some dodgy wiring.. Love your videos by the way 😊

  • @christianfernando98
    @christianfernando98 5 років тому +2

    Excellent guide. Please more videos about the GT ❤️❤️❤️

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 3 роки тому +1

    Lovely Jubbly, an honest review I think.

  • @doncrabtree2728
    @doncrabtree2728 2 роки тому +1

    A good detailed review , cheers

  • @richardjohnson3463
    @richardjohnson3463 4 роки тому +2

    Very informative thanks

  • @timmotion6494
    @timmotion6494 3 роки тому +1

    I notice a small detail that occurs on my 156, namely the windscreen lower rubber seal on the passenger side is dislodged! Exactly the same!

  • @rjb7026
    @rjb7026 5 років тому +3

    Thanks again Neil;

  • @FluxStage
    @FluxStage 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the video!

  • @trevorcrosby2807
    @trevorcrosby2807 3 роки тому +1

    I have had two, the wagon and the sedan, and they are beautiful cars.

  • @golu5460
    @golu5460 2 роки тому +3

    in Italy we do not have all these problems are good cars that we easily do 300,000-400,000 kilometers

  • @alexandrediogo1799
    @alexandrediogo1799 4 роки тому +1

    Hey buddy, loved your videos, I've had my 159ti 2.0 jtdm for over 6 years, now I just got a tbi ti, however the gear stick is a bit stiff,, any ideia of what it could be?

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому +1

      hi thanks for watching. sticking cables possibly

  • @michaelhuey1939
    @michaelhuey1939 4 роки тому +4

    I want this Alfa love the 159 sportswagon especially in black

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому

      this was a nice one.

    • @michaelhuey1939
      @michaelhuey1939 4 роки тому

      @@ItaliaAutos looked at a few but nearly brought one but the fact it wasn't black put me off lol

  • @marioshadjikyriacou3381
    @marioshadjikyriacou3381 5 років тому +2

    Greedings from Cyprus! I would like to find a 2.4jtdm either lusso or TI(even better) registered in 2010 and after(2010,2011,2012). Cant find amy any. Do they stopped produced after 2009? Due to some resend law changes, mekes it unaffortable buing a diesel car 2387cc, 179g/cm emmisions that was registered before 31December 2009.

  • @54mgtf22
    @54mgtf22 2 роки тому +1

    Love your work 👍

  • @fireblade8905
    @fireblade8905 5 років тому +4

    I wish I had your level of knowledge

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +3

      its only taken 15 years plus years. crikey i could of been a doctor lol

  • @colmcoakley3916
    @colmcoakley3916 4 роки тому +2

    the only car buyers guide anyone would need is just buy a 159. have mine 5 months now and love it

  • @mitkokjurcievski2618
    @mitkokjurcievski2618 4 роки тому +1

    Nice car.
    Best regarts

  • @Zelos2k
    @Zelos2k Рік тому

    I have two GTs and want to change one for either a 159 or Brera. I cant decided on which one. 😆
    Has the 2.2 jts got the M32 gearbox as well ?

  • @THEG12EG
    @THEG12EG 4 роки тому +3

    great video.. to sumerise no major faults to worry about on the diesel engines

  • @amardizz821
    @amardizz821 Рік тому

    the 159 SW is still an amazingly beautiful car

  • @kaantansu
    @kaantansu 4 роки тому

    Perfect job thank you

  • @alexandros.savvidis
    @alexandros.savvidis 4 роки тому

    Dear Italia Autos nice 2 meet u , Alex is my Name , Greetings from Switzerland, i really like your videos and respect your knowledge but Question: Are the Jts Engines really unreliable?, are you sure, because i see they reach a lot of kilometers without problems, the chain maybe should be changed but its not unreliable engine, the 1.9 jtd are reliable diesels the 2.4 are more problematical comparing to the 1.9 ones , i am really confused now after this Video..Having a chain in the engine is still better than a timing belt, if the chain is getting longer then you have some light ore engine doesnt work properly but the chain doesn't breaks, thats why i cannot understand that they are not reliable, ok it can happen that some cars from the begin they have problems and you see in history often changes but if i afind one used car why should i be scared from on JTS Engine ?

  • @StarsingerOG
    @StarsingerOG 3 роки тому +2

    But... the V6 sound man... It's very tempting.

  • @mckengineer5727
    @mckengineer5727 5 років тому +19

    Interesting comment on the JTS. I had a 3.2 v6 for 8 yrs, ran it to 140k mile, with no problems, not even cam chain change...but it was meticulously serviced by Vito - Vito’s Motors, in London UK - who flushed the engine with every service.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +6

      they need servicing lots sooner than alfa recommends thats why most of them are suffering chain failure.

    • @rolandsoittu8244
      @rolandsoittu8244 5 років тому +1

      I've had it 5 years and no probs as well . 3.2 Q4

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +1

      @@rolandsoittu8244 your servicing must be good then.

    • @marvinv6760
      @marvinv6760 Рік тому

      @@rolandsoittu8244 @McKengineer What about fuel consumption?

  • @sylviamurley4968
    @sylviamurley4968 5 років тому +1

    It's always interesting to see what you have in your yard was that the phase 3 gtv l saw. Be interesting to see the spares supply side of your business

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +2

      Sylvia Murley yep. I don’t do as many spares as I used to as to many people have jumped on the bandwagon.

    • @sylviamurley4968
      @sylviamurley4968 5 років тому +2

      @@ItaliaAutos yes there seems to be a lot of people doing them, how much duo you charge for your painting services , seen a few pics of your work and your good

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +2

      Sylvia Murley let me know what you need doing.

  • @Limekiln100
    @Limekiln100 5 років тому +1

    Love this guide,what is the filter you refer to at 15.34?

  • @quantumindicesfuturestrade6873
    @quantumindicesfuturestrade6873 2 роки тому +2

    Sometimes you can get little things going wrong easily fixed.. i have an 08 JTDm amazing car. Handles like a dream and fast. A really fun car to drive. Actually in italy where I live the prices are going up.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome. Thanks for the comment

  • @misaelramos83
    @misaelramos83 5 років тому +1

    What a delicate car

  • @75TS2000
    @75TS2000 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Neil, like your content! I was an Alfa mechanic for 8 years here in Belgium but that was 10 years ago. Now i have a 159 1750 ti sw and i’m changing the cambelt. I have the special tools for crank and cam but i can’t find the torque settings for the VVT camshaft sprockets. Do you have any idea, please? Ciao, Koen

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому

      im sure they will be on google. i dont have them

    • @75TS2000
      @75TS2000 4 роки тому +2

      Nope, googled a lot already. Too bad, thanks anyway.

  • @lukeekry
    @lukeekry 4 місяці тому

    Hi, I am currently in the process of re-building 159 "Medium" trim into TI version. Among few last things to upgrade on mine are standard brakes (1.9 16V JTDm) to get upgrade to 305mm Brembo brakes in the front for which I have obtained Brembo calipers, TI knuckles with radial calipers mounts and another ABS sensors (305mm discs, pads and bearings to the knuckles I will be buying brand new). Can someone hint me if rear brakes on 1.9 16V "TI" are exactly same as on non-TI version? Many thanks. Luke.

  • @Ghostneocz
    @Ghostneocz 5 років тому +12

    i had exactly same car but with roof racks, sold it and kept 156 which is more fun to drive

    • @musmuk5350
      @musmuk5350 4 роки тому

      Does the 156 feel a lot lighter?

    • @gbormann71
      @gbormann71 Рік тому

      I had a (facelift) 156 with 1.9 JTD (115HP?) for 3 years as a company car (fleet manager was an alfista 😁). Apart from the noticible turbo gap it was a real pleasure to drive, very nimble. The steering was incredibly direct with lots of feedback and in corners the car stuck to the road like chewing gum.

  • @full010
    @full010 Рік тому

    hello, my 159 sw 8v 120cv vibrates strongly when I stop it, at idle and on the road I don't feel anything, it happened 2 months after I changed the clutch kit + dual-mass, possible engine mounts?

  • @randellgribben9772
    @randellgribben9772 5 років тому +1

    I wish we had cars like this in the states

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому

      I’d happily swap it for a Dodge Challenger.

    • @mustangrt8866
      @mustangrt8866 5 років тому

      I wish we had yankee cars in EU

  • @mustafaoshaughnessy3198
    @mustafaoshaughnessy3198 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @spana123321
    @spana123321 3 роки тому +1

    That is beautiful, I think I just had a gentleman trouser incident

  • @Rio-zu2ii
    @Rio-zu2ii 4 роки тому +5

    Nice car! My dad owns a stationwagon with a rail on the roof he bought it with navigation and we have it for a few months or so great video by the way

  • @Tuulster70
    @Tuulster70 5 років тому +4

    Excellent video Neil although I don't share your opinion about the JTS engine. I have a perfect 2.2 liter 159! 👍
    I did have to replace the subframe though because of rust. After replacement I said goodbye to the protection plate below the engine to give the new subframe air to prevent rust again.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +3

      Thanks each to there own on the engines. 👍

    • @Tuulster70
      @Tuulster70 5 років тому +1

      True 😎

    • @Tuulster70
      @Tuulster70 5 років тому +2

      Besides, in Holland, where I am from, nowadays it's almost impossible to drive diesel because of taxes

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +1

      @@Tuulster70 I hear cars are really expensive to.

    • @Tuulster70
      @Tuulster70 5 років тому +3

      That's for sure! To our governement car enthusiasts are a milkcow for taxes. But that won't stop me from driving my 159 and GTV 😎😎

  • @Gabriell0684
    @Gabriell0684 4 роки тому +1

    Love your videos. I am planning to buy a 159 and I was thinking about a 2.4 diesel. Could you possibly have a review of the cracking cylinder head issue? I could not find any explanation why it is happening, it would be really nice to have your opinion on it. Cheers!

    • @Neatspejamasis
      @Neatspejamasis 3 роки тому +1

      As I know it happens when you push cold engine to the limit.

    • @Gabriell0684
      @Gabriell0684 3 роки тому

      Andrius M thank you. I was considering the 159 2,4 as a replacement for my 156 2.0 TS (it just has too many issues to be used as a daily) and i know it may sound as blasphemy for Alfisti, but I am now looking as some Lexus GS-es as an alternative.

    • @Neatspejamasis
      @Neatspejamasis 3 роки тому +1

      @@Gabriell0684 a few days ago Ijust sold my 2005 1.9 16V JTD 150 HP. New owner bought because his Toyota Avensis engine died and he was looking for a not expensive car. I'm also looking at 159. For me it doesn't matter fuel type, good condition is priority.

  • @changename8820
    @changename8820 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for info brother ❤️🍀

  • @davidwescott2632
    @davidwescott2632 2 роки тому

    Not forgetting gearbox bearings.(gearstick moving forward and back under acceleration and deceleration). Timing chains on 2.2 and 3.2 petrol engines.(Vauxhall).road springs snap

  • @Geopolitica1946
    @Geopolitica1946 3 роки тому +2

    Hello, thanks for the review. But is there any concern when buying an automatic version? Thanks in advance

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  3 роки тому +2

      The boxes are pretty good but make sure the selector housing is OK

  • @mickyquiroga3517
    @mickyquiroga3517 4 роки тому +3

    hello, do you have any advice for a 159 q4? specifically speaking of the q-tronic box and the differential and cardan. Buy one and I'm worried about those details, and if you have any other comments to ask me. I subscribed to your channel, I congratulate you for the good material, greetings from Argentina.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому +1

      The q tonic box isn't somthing I've messed with much I'm afraid. Not her popular in the UK But from the ones I've driven there a good gearbox.

    • @mickyquiroga3517
      @mickyquiroga3517 4 роки тому +3

      Italia Autos Thank you very much, I also have a 159 2.2 selespeed and I am preparing a 155 q4 to run trackday. I will upload videos of it and I will tell you if you are interested, again congratulations and greetings from Argentina.

    • @stevenjr6582
      @stevenjr6582 4 роки тому +2

      Qtronic is an aisin gearbox japanese made,they tend to be neglected , so change the oil with a recommended oem specification.

  • @depmodeno
    @depmodeno 4 роки тому +6

    Would it be a good idea to prevent rust on sub frames and suspension arms? Using paint or under seal so it doesn't happen again.

  • @Westside-Navi
    @Westside-Navi 4 роки тому +1

    Common problem is MAF....check turbocharger indicator to figure out if MAF is faulty

  • @adamristic2822
    @adamristic2822 3 роки тому

    I am selling my Ford Mondeo 2011reg 2.2tdci Titanium X, just so that I could by an Alfa Romeo 159 2.4jtd. Beautiful car with a very good engine.

  • @Ewoodster
    @Ewoodster 8 місяців тому +1

    I owned the 159 1750 TBI in ti trim. Beatiful car, awesome ride, terrible reliability.

  • @jagmaster25
    @jagmaster25 4 роки тому +1

    Any advice to give regarding the automatic gearboxes? Known issues, decent/rubbish, flappy paddles work ok, manual far far better or just user preference etc? Do they cope with the torque of the 2.4, and do they cope with a remap?
    I'm looking to change from a Saab 9-5 with the 1.9 diesel to a 159 with the 2.4 for a bit more fun, character and performance. Slightly concerning you say the 2.4 is more agricultural, I would have thought the opposite as 4 pot diesels are often quite chuggy and the more cylinders the better.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому +2

      I don’t see or hear of many major issues.

  • @pudingaomar6341
    @pudingaomar6341 Рік тому

    Forever young,cuore sportivo

  • @FrankishKnight
    @FrankishKnight 5 років тому +9

    i literally had every common problem with my 159, was not expensive to fix, i had the dpf pipe broken like you mentioned, fixed it with fuel line pipes lol. my car has 200k kms and is a dream to drive on the highway, silky smooth engine no road or windnoise at all, i love my car. its not sporty but it does have a stiff chassis and i dont feel like i want to shoot myself when driving it ( im looking at you renault, honestly how do you make such boring cars?)

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +3

      yeah stop looking at french cars. lol

    • @gbormann71
      @gbormann71 Рік тому +1

      Hehe, so it is a Renault thing? My Kadjar (to be replaced with the Toenai...I mean Tonale PHEV mid-Summer) is a decent car but the controls and console are...minimalist.

  • @julieleenaers313
    @julieleenaers313 4 роки тому +1

    Thank for the great riview. 2.4 or 2.0JTM would be my first choice, BUT, our government is making owning an 'older' diesel impossible. I'm therefore looking at a 2.0JTS with selespeed (yes, a lot of red flags), but are those engines and boxes really that bad? Thanks

    • @roverchap
      @roverchap 3 роки тому

      I have a 2.2JTS - I know many (like Neil here) don't like it but I find the engine a gem - smooth, refined, very flexible, pulls from 1500rpm in 6th, uses no oil and gives 35+mpg on motorway. Plus you can hang on to a gear and have the Alfa-esque 6750rpm rev limit for a bit of mood music - try that in a diesel!

    • @ragnarsdad6065
      @ragnarsdad6065 3 роки тому

      @@roverchap Likewise i have the 2.2 JTS, the weak spot is the cam chain as they used a single link chain, i have had to have mine replaced once which was pretty pricey. My local independent alfa specialist said to make sure i have the oil changed every 6 months to try and avoid the cam chain stretch. other than that the wheel alignment on the front normally needs new tyres every year (under 5000 miles per year) and that was with the alignment being done every three months. I did find that using cheaper tyres, (I normally had goodyear efficient grip) helped with the last set (blackcircles no name)of cheaper tyres lasting 2 years. I bought it 5 years ago for £5k and has cost me around the same again in maintenance. I do still love Alfa's though.

  • @guerribrothers8221
    @guerribrothers8221 3 роки тому

    la alfa 159 è una delle mie preferite

  • @Robert-nz2qw
    @Robert-nz2qw 4 роки тому

    Very very surprised you didn’t mention the M32 gearbox and neither the problem it quite often has with water in/under the floor in the front foot wells

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому +1

      Gearbox is one thing I forgot.

    • @Robert-nz2qw
      @Robert-nz2qw 4 роки тому

      You should do a film about the gearbox alone, seeing it's so widely used.
      Also, what I mentioned on water in the foot wells is a very common problem, and I have seen it in most 159s I've checked on. (I too live in a VW ("Very Wet", Clarkson) country)

  • @MechaNick_
    @MechaNick_ 5 років тому +1

    Hello,
    Do you have any 166 video's? I want to buy a 166 2.0 TS from 2003, any advice?

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +1

      Just make sure everything works and that you have the ics code. 👍

  • @theavenger3363
    @theavenger3363 Рік тому

    Fantastic info ..
    Would you by any chance be able to help me with a problem?
    I spilled a soft drink into the air con buttons (2011 E class) now one is very sticky and stays in when the weather is cold. Any advice greatly appreciated 👍

  • @robertmackinnon4414
    @robertmackinnon4414 4 роки тому +4

    my quick guide= See It,Love It,Buy it

  • @NaNa-wj8tw
    @NaNa-wj8tw 4 роки тому +1

    Neil, could you please give your opinion on the best car reliability wise 1.9d or 2.4 if both have been very well maintained? I have sold a 2.4 recently but have never owned a 1.9. A low miler with a sensible +30 bhp remap maybe a lighter more reliable option or is it best to purchase another 2.4? I read a lot of guys who went from 1.9 to a 2.0 or 2.4 and wish they hadn’t. Thoughts?

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому

      Either are fine 1.9 sounds a little more refined

    • @NaNa-wj8tw
      @NaNa-wj8tw 4 роки тому

      Italia Autos Thanks chap. 👍

  • @VladAleksandrovich
    @VladAleksandrovich 5 років тому +4

    Cool! Let's take video the same with alfa romeo 156!

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +2

      When I've fixed up the grey one in the video.

    • @VladAleksandrovich
      @VladAleksandrovich 5 років тому

      @@ItaliaAutos Sorry, I mean "Buyers guide for alfa romeo 156":)

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +2

      @@VladAleksandrovich that's what I mean. The 156 will be in one once finished

  • @Markycarandbikestuff
    @Markycarandbikestuff Рік тому +1

    Hopefully buying a 159 soon to replace my much loved Panda 100HP, looking at a 1750 Tbi Ti, did consider the Diesel but most of my driving is short journeys and do low annual miles so petrol will suit me better.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  Рік тому +1

      Sounds good.

    • @Markycarandbikestuff
      @Markycarandbikestuff Рік тому +2

      @@ItaliaAutos Got it yesterday : ), love it to bits already, front frame is good, backend needs scrubbed and cleaned, gearbox is fine, drives superb, new cambelt this year, full specialist service history, 98K on the clock, paid £5600. Got it from Tebay it's now up in Scotland.

  • @danniyelle8981
    @danniyelle8981 4 роки тому +22

    Just watched this with baited breath AFTER buying a 2.4. No drama though and 'agricultural' is usually a good thing for longevity 👍

  • @MrPittsbrother
    @MrPittsbrother 5 років тому +8

    Imagine if you could put the 159 v6 into the plain 156 body, non GTA so lighter, that would theoretically be quicker than the GTA? Why did they make them so heavy? My 05 156(facelift) Q system 2.5v6 version is a good compromise of power, economy and sound\looks. I parked it next to a later model Mercedes and it held it's own.
    I remember one specialist mechanic say to me, if you love your Alfa Romeo it loves you back. True!

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  5 років тому +8

      id rather make a gta rear wheel drive.

    • @MrPittsbrother
      @MrPittsbrother 5 років тому

      @@ItaliaAutos interesting response. I think I'll stick to my 156. Actually you gave me a clue on the rear parking sensors, mine don't work but there's evidence of a rear end collision repair so thanks man!

  • @leonsutton299
    @leonsutton299 2 місяці тому +1

    Im about to buy the 2.0 jtdm TI 159 in red 👌🤞

  • @CarlAvoryMusic
    @CarlAvoryMusic 3 роки тому

    Could you help please? Went to look at a 159ti 1.8 sportwagen and when still and turning the wheel I could feel a slight vibration/judder/pulse. When driving not so. Any advice or ideas of parts that may need replacing? Could affect the sale.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  3 роки тому

      Nope. Not without looking at it.

  • @nohandle846
    @nohandle846 3 роки тому

    What is your take on remapping the 2.4JTDM version? Thanks

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  3 роки тому

      Fine just go to a reputable company that ha made there own maps and don't just install generic ones.

  • @terryturner4116
    @terryturner4116 5 років тому +15

    Very beautiful looking car but I'd rather have my 147 Sport TS , the old T Spark engine only has 120bhp but it has a head turning sound and soul and the handling is unmatched.

    • @hetspook666
      @hetspook666 3 роки тому +1

      I owned a 147 and i now have a 159, boy did that 147 drink oil

    • @riccardorubino2571
      @riccardorubino2571 2 роки тому +1

      @@hetspook666 i still own a 147. Its just nuts how much oil it needs. Im now at 1l - 1200km

    • @MrPrajitura
      @MrPrajitura 6 місяців тому

      having just switched from a 147 2.0 TS to a 159 1750 TBi, I can honestly say the 159 is simply in another league. I understand they're different market segments, but you simply cannot compare the two, the 159 is better in pretty much every department. and yes, the old TS likes to drink oil in a way it puts the Audi TFSI engine to shame

  • @cameronrichardson3108
    @cameronrichardson3108 2 роки тому +1

    I’m seriously considering the 1800 mpi to replace my old Corolla I’m 19 so insurance will b fun especially seeing as I clock up 20k a year on it for work probably going to burn, literally every family member (especially grandpa) has warned me off them due to reliability despite the fact that he himself had Vauxhalls… enough said, I drove one and it’s was so nice and when I drove the Toyota avensis estate I couldn’t believe the difference the avensis felt so wooden to drive, no feeling at all, I don’t go mad… whiter than white I have to b because for some reason all us young drivers are exactly the same apparently… 😂

  • @notesonwheels
    @notesonwheels 2 роки тому +1

    Hey mate, sorry to keep the thread going but here where I am due to cc tax, most options are 1.8 mpi models. Wondering on your thoughts on that engine!

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  2 роки тому +1

      There ok but tbi is better

    • @user-gl9jx5iz7f
      @user-gl9jx5iz7f Рік тому +1

      The 1.8 mpi petrol,is a bulletproof engine,140hp ,but not special problems,ihave this model 159 2009 from 2015.Only fuel pump change in 2017.

  • @MediaMonstersEMRE
    @MediaMonstersEMRE 4 роки тому

    İ have a 159sw 2009 the version with Facelift for 10 months. My headlights are different than yours on my car the cilindrical parts are longer :D İ dont know why...
    İ was thinking that my car is in bad condition because it has some scratches and litle 1 2cm of rust but you have some serious rust man.
    4, 5 days ago a problem occurred on my car. When İ press the brake gently on low speed the car starts shaking forward and bakcward. And also when İ hit the brakes again gently on a corner the Steering wheel startes shaking. The problem started after İ changed the front wihbone bushhings. Do you have any clue what can be the reason for this problem? İ personaly thing that the reason is the front brake discs as my front discs and pads are worned out.
    Thank you very much! Nice video btw.

    • @blazzerko
      @blazzerko 4 роки тому +2

      I had the same issue, its the front discs. Just take them off and find a "grinder" not sure how to say it in english. Its like he can polish the disc brakes so it doesnt have any bumps and u wont have anymore of steering wheel shaking. Hope I helped

    • @MediaMonstersEMRE
      @MediaMonstersEMRE 4 роки тому +1

      @@blazzerko Thank you man! Yeah İ know what you mean We have this kind of machines in town. But İ will change the discs and pads. They are worned out.

  • @singletotakentv9583
    @singletotakentv9583 4 роки тому +1

    How is the steering turning circle on the 159? I found on the 156 and 166 they were weird compared to other vehicles in general.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  4 роки тому +1

      It’s better. It not class leading.

    • @singletotakentv9583
      @singletotakentv9583 4 роки тому

      @@ItaliaAutos what's the reason for Alfas having a different turning circle compared to all vehicles out there?

  • @74Revanth
    @74Revanth 2 роки тому +1

    Those door handles are the best looking in the world

  • @CarLifee
    @CarLifee 2 роки тому +1

    I was thinking about getting one but a bentley arnage sounds more reliable with less problems.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  2 роки тому

      facelift giulietta is more reliable

  • @Luw7
    @Luw7 3 роки тому

    12:57 What about the petrol 1.8mpi engine, is this also unreliable and expensive to maintain or is it just the JTS due to design differences? Diesels are outlawed where I live because of climate change and both the 1.8 and 1.9 petrol ones were looking mighty fine, but yeah there's always a financial aspect.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  3 роки тому +1

      there ok engines just rare so parts will be harder to come by when older.

  • @GamanaDamiaTeodor
    @GamanaDamiaTeodor 3 роки тому

    Have you ever encountered a knocking noise on the right side of the engine(it s more pronounced on the right side, almost can't hear it on the left side). This sound is louder when you rev it and seem to go away just a little bit after engine warms up. Can't figure it out and it's anyoing. Any help would be great i can even send a video or something with the noise id you are willing to help.

    • @ItaliaAutos
      @ItaliaAutos  3 роки тому

      Book it in and ill take a look

    • @GamanaDamiaTeodor
      @GamanaDamiaTeodor 3 роки тому

      @@ItaliaAutos any social media i can speak to you more open and more easy?

  • @sup3rbosseur
    @sup3rbosseur 5 років тому

    Hi can you help me ? i have a P2085 and P2453 Error about the DPS On my 159 1.9 JTDM ! is the sensor broken ? should i replace with a new ? Thx (: