@Jonathan Bikulo i dont knoe ehat you're referring to, maybe theres been some bad calls. I guarentee you the refs never go out to beat Lebron tho. We know they did with Iverson. Lebron is the leagues savior. Iverson did what he did in spite of the league
@@hanzdominiccastro8990those same guys who got the awards didn't preform as their titles said. Lebron had Kyrie, JR Smith, Kyle Korver and Kevin love, not to mention GSW Choked.
lol casuals dweebs ai has everything he wanted he has the ball and no one else why do you think ai and mela failed in denver he doesnt need offensive players he need defensive ones dweebs admit it lakers was a better team ai has a good team dweebs
At best of 2018, Lebron faves Victor Oladipo, Demarcus Derozan & either Horford or Tatum then faced a much stacked team than the Lakers... AI still won a game regardless w/ also his limited size, AI wins this debate
The hate on Lebron has always been there. The players have knowledge but they are often wrong. it's also personal for them and who they like more and no one loves Goliath...
AI got 1 against prime Shaq, rising Kobe and the powerhouse Lakers who swept the entire Western Playoffs, which by the way was super loaded in the early 2000s. Bron got swept by GSW. Go figure.
Jerald Vincent Zumel ai actually had help, him + a good coach, a 6moty & dpoty.. I think Bron should've stole at least one game But after game 1 , how it ended, that series was over
Die hard Lakers fan over here! 💯💯💯 But A.I. was a beast! He’s the driving force that earned respect from Kobe-made him work harder for his wins,drove him towards what we all know now to be “The Mamba Mentality”. I have nothing but love for Iverson. 💯💯💯
I mean AIs run was more impressive but lebronnjust played better. Nd as dominant as Lakers were, GSW is a better team than a rising Kobe and prime Shaq. GSW is a prime KD, prime Curry, Prime Klay and Prime Draymond. AImis more impressive but u way off, any other player but Lebron do what Lebron did and it’s historical
Jordan was more talented and athletic than everybody in his prime, making the game easier for him. I guess that mean his career wasn't as impressive as many think
my point IS. LEBRON went against those guys with who? Who did AI have against kobe and shaq? Wade, Bosh, Allen. Love, Kyrie. AI had who? your point is? Mutumbo? Eric Snow? sit down boy who started watching nba in 2011.
@@B_Thompson_215 Lebron was BETTER whether you want to say ai was more impressive doesn’t really matter Although I guess I see it because he was a worse player so it is more unexpected
@@StatusQ_ I’m a bron fan and I never said A.I was better then him so wtf are u tlkin about....stop hating on A.I and he is better than Kobe n thts a fact...
Manny King Money check the stats . Lebron james played in 2003 and 2004 where the rules where still hand check up until 2005. He was a beast for rookie year in 03. 04 he average 27 7 7 2stls 48% shooting. Etc.
When something hasn't been done in like 17 years, it isn't the end of the world if they make a topic about it. If Steph did it they'd have the same topic up and you'd be okay with it.
T biscuit Ofc I'd be Every day its lebron lebron lebron How insane is this Like every day did he surpass MJ...are you kidding me. This constant talk about the same thing is stupid KAT and kawhi might leave and each get a 2 min for that while he gets half a day of talking irrelevant things
AI lost 4-1 and the series wasn’t even close, he never even got close to the finals again. lebron went to the finals 8 years straight, got multiple rings and he’ll probably go back to the finals again. I’d choose a different argument
This jokers said that Leflop had it more difficult!!! AI got no AllStar in that team. It was him against the world. AI was the man back in the day, had it more difficult than LBJ
MyFriendlyPup ok since we rounding up lebron averaged 21ppg on one less shot attempt a game than ai , and lebron skipped college while ai was in college for two years, I’m from philly but even I know lebron is a better player
insight001 where not talking about KLove or Kyrie stop changing the subject Lebron didn't make the playoffs into his 3rd year after u said the east stop being wide open in 03 stick to you're comment
I always use this same explanation anytime I speak of Iverson. How he lead them to the play offs was so impressive because he was going to war each night. He played way above his size. The Answer 💯
today tmrrw 42% for an nba player is terrible bro. That’s inefficient for a professional nba player. The worse teams in the nba are shooting 43% from the field. Steph curry, Kevin’s Durant, Larry bird all had season shooting similar % from the 3 as iverson shot from the entire field. Iverson played most of his career without hand checking, hand checking was taken out in the 03-04 season, iverson retired in 2010. Lack of Handchecking didn’t change his career, his scoring didn’t change much per 100 position, what changes season to season was his usage rate. And his highest scoring season he had a negative plus/minus. And that’s the definition of inefficient. Scoring 33 ppg and having little impact on the games. What got iverson to become irrelevant was his lack of team contributions and all about his numbers. Nba team also started to lean towards more efficiency and iverson was becoming a huge liability, a 18 ppg score with a negative plus/ minus
@@Xzei Well he should have got Coach of the year... nobody knows how they made it to the finals. 6moty LOL he only won cuz of the team and how far they made it, he had like 11 a game LMAO. DPOY hey Dikembe already won that a few times, and at 34 and the team built around Defense and AI, he won, it only helped that he had Ratliff next to him. Your comment is still flawed. Try again. 2018 team had a lot more help, and alot more all-stars.
@@mrblend Every team gets an all-star... I'd rather have a teammate get an award fe get DPOY>All-Star 1st Team>All-Star But if "all-star" (seriously remember Kobe getting voted in when he was hurt? Yao?) means something to you... then... good job
MrBlend AI was younger than LeBron was at that point, LeBron still came through even after his star player went down with a concussion, and after that finals game 1 I can say AI had better and competent teammates than LeBron did that year
Same here, he put it on his bck he played it on the Floor, he gave you %290+ each and every night he played on Offense & Defense. To me he got better " Handles " than Kyrie but hey we all have our own Opinions.
Put what on his back? His team in 2001 was the best defensive team he has the defensive player of the year coach of the year and sixth man of the year that team was built around ai gameplay ballhog thats why they surrounded him with defensive players
@@hanzdominiccastro8990 you just debunked your argument lmfao, Defensive players with no offensive attributes. Iverson carried that team case and point.
More impressive? Iverson. Better player? Lebron and it’s not close. Not lebron fault Iverson was built like a actual human and lebron is built like an Android.
Marc Regal If Snow was considered mediocre when he played with Iverson then what do you think he was 7 years later with LeBron? Nothing dumb about my statement but it clearly went over your head. Not to mention LeBron was straight out of high school takin mediocre talent to the Finals in his 4th year.
Literally if LeBron was in the 90s he would have a different way of play because of the era it would change a player. The more he gets banged up the more he would be used to it. He is a crybaby in this league because of the rules the rules effect the playstyle
All they had to do was do a rundown of the Sixers' playoff roster that season and the conversation would've been over. Philly had absolutely no shooters other than Iverson.
Iverson isn’t overrated, he’s rated where he is. Iverson is too inefficient to be rank higher. Media love efficiency while players want the guys who will take 40 shots
Nothing was more impressive than what I, myself witnessed with my own eyez in 2001, but what should be mentioned is everyone's busy comparing LBJ to MJ; meanwhile, he's being exactly what he said he wanted to be. "I didn't want to be Jordan, I wanted to be A.I." -LBJ
Mike Anderson LeBron does have to play his style. His team is far too inconsistent. If he ever change his style of play then he would have more people like yourself saying he should take over because of his size. He is really at a catch 22 no matter what he does
AI plays the way he plays. He is uncoachable. Big heart, yes but small brain. He was one of the most gifted players pound for pound but he didnt have the work ethic like kobe to stay relevant and he didnt elevate his teamates play the way jkidd and nash did. He had the team in Denver but that team underachieved with him on point guard. The moment that billups came to denver, they reached the wcf. Iverson is a glorified scorer and thats it.
I’ll give you that-I’m a die hard Lakers fan,but A.I. was a force to be reckoned with! 💯💯💯 I honestly wished he could’ve won a championship. He’s definitely one of the G.O.A.T.’s!!!💯💯💯🤩💪🏽
People that never played sports or aren't active need to stop these comparisons. They are extremely inaccurate and blatantly misleading the listeners with this crapolla filled in their own heads
So hold on... Jordan @ 1.98m, 98kg and Iverson @ 1.83m and 75kg Would get more buckets in today's NBA but... LeBron @ 2.03m and 113kg Would struggle in the 90's NBA? Lmao, go figure.
And I'm pretty sure hand checking was still a thing when Lebron first came into the league and he was averaging over 20 a game as a Rookie with those rules still in place. If he had to continue playing under those rules his whole career, he would have adapted.
Tbh Iverson was more impressive just purely because of the inspiring toughness and determination, the relentless will to win and the killer mentality. I appreciate he was nowhere near as efficient as LeBron and Bron is my guy but can you all imagine if you could put Iverson's heart, aggression and toughness into LeBron's body with his basketball IQ... oh my lord its a wrap.
A.I.- With his size, his electrifying moves, his basketball I.Q( passing ability) and those guys he played against his talents shot beyond the roof-depicting his ultimate dominance and being one of the greats that ever played the game-no question.
I like how they made all the points without bringing up the fact that LeBron is doing this in season 15. It’s actually closer than the old players make it seem.
The rules now will benefit Lebron James, 6'8, 250. LMAO. But wait he was too weak and small in the 90s. Those guys were way FASTER, way STRONGER, way more SKILLED. GTFOH.
Who remembers 2 years previous to getting to 2001 Finals Larry Brown tried to trade AI it fell thru when Matt Geiger refused to be part of that package deal.
I don't get the "if people could handcheck Lebron" argument because 1. Everyone already mentioned he bigger and stronger than everyone so you think he still can't get to the whole? 2. If the league was more physical how come no one thinks Lebron would be able to be more physical on offense and really lay someone out going to the hole? 3. If people could hand check Lebron then guess what? Lebron would be able to hand check them to and no one would be getting passed him. It works both ways that argument is stupid. I mean if John Stockton (6'1 176 pounds) could keep up with the physicality of the game at the point in time where everyone says was the most physical and excel then why wouldn't Lebron be able to? lol like come on really?
Its close but it was so much harder for Allen Iverson. The guy was 6ft 165 -170 pounds. He was essentially a point guards body playing shooting guard. Also if it wasn't for Tyrone Lue Iverson might have took the mighty Lakers to 7 games.
Regarding why A.I.'s Philadelphia team won 56 games that year, it probably had a ton to do with them being in the top 5 in defense, free throw attempts, and rebounding, including 2nd best in offensive rebounding percentage.
Allen Iverson carried the largest offensive load of any team to reach the NBA Finals in the shot-clock era. Excluding Iverson, the 2001 Sixers averaged 60.3 PPG in the 22 Playoff games that Iverson played. No other team to reach the NBA Finals has had less PPG outside of their leading scorer.
As of now we do know iverson went to the NBA finals with that team. Lebron still has to overcome this celtic team to even make a case. What Lebron is doing is off the charts but whats more impressive? To me its for sure Iverson.
Did more?? Definitely not....yeah he went to the finals but he only won 1 game. Which is extremely impressive! I'm a huge A.I fan but this could really go either way. These old dudes just wanna make their era seem better but LeBron played with hand checking too.
You get Steven Jackson up there and you get the trifecta of former role player, non hall of fame players that haaaaaaate LeBron!!!! Even Paul Peirce has come around (HOFer).TMac,Zeke,Shaq,Kenny,Chuck,Pip, Mr Big shot,Magic etc, all recognize greatness regardless of era. Regardless if they think MJ Is the 🐐! And they are allll HOFers!!! These 2...man the hate is ooozing out! And iHate Whitelock btw!
Its similar but Id give the nod to Iverson….it was his run that made me fall in love with basketball…..those game 7s vs the Raptors and Bucks…..and then came out and punched the Lakers in the mouth in game 1…..when I went to sleep after game 1 I really thought Iverson was going to win a chip….he only got 1 game in that finals but that was enough to cement his legacy.
Hose talks about LBJ not showing up but him as a role player with the Cavs never really showed up for his role, LBJ was all alone with nothing but bums For some reason House does not want to own up to it. Its fun to ride in the passenger seat until its time to push when the cars out of gas
Never hear Ali and Joe Louis not being compared to Sugar Ray? Has this man never seen Coming to America? Or been to a barbershop where they talked about boxing?
Iverson was on a team with defensive players that average under 10 pts. Everybody knew where the ball was going to and he still did what he did. Iverson is a beast if he played in today's NBA he would've had 6 straight 50pt+ games.
StephanLamar81 I agree. How come jordan doesnt get compard to everyone? I know Lebron is the best basketball player to EVER play. Jordan would be destroyed in todays social media.
Lebrons shooting percentage is remarkable but one thing I can say, is he does get a lot of shots in the paint but this fade away he’s now shooting is awesome
Bro these guys really hating on Lebron because how easy he makes basketball look. That’s so wild 😂 just be because he made it look easy, doesn’t mean it is.
The east trash LBJ beating a team full of young boys I give him full credit but Shaq, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Dirk, Tim Duncan would be killing this team 2 putting up crazy number LBJ is not and should not lose to a team lead by Jaylen Brown
For once,thank you Eddie house! NO ONE with Allen iverson’s size & skill has dominated the nba such as he has......it kills me when ppl bring up Kobe,lebron,kd,curry,Wade, & melo when it comes to them being a better player than Allen iverson at HIS HEIGHT
notice that the people arguing against AI are people who NEVER played.
You could also argue that the only guys arguing for AI are salty old dudes?
@@kevinmurtagh4996 yeah that's played them and knows the game better
True
@Stephen he was all they had. He was like Barry sanders in detroit. One man wrecking crew
true that
A.I. played against the refs too...y'all don't remember the documentary,on the refs admitting,they cheated on iverson...
@Jonathan Bikulo i dont knoe ehat you're referring to, maybe theres been some bad calls. I guarentee you the refs never go out to beat Lebron tho. We know they did with Iverson. Lebron is the leagues savior. Iverson did what he did in spite of the league
Ai has the defensive player of the year has the six man of the year coach of the year and they have the best defensive team lebron has nothing
@@hanzdominiccastro8990those same guys who got the awards didn't preform as their titles said. Lebron had Kyrie, JR Smith, Kyle Korver and Kevin love, not to mention GSW Choked.
@@hanzdominiccastro8990 that might be the dumbest thing i ever heard in my life...plz don't talk about sports ever again
lol casuals dweebs ai has everything he wanted he has the ball and no one else why do you think ai and mela failed in denver he doesnt need offensive players he need defensive ones dweebs admit it lakers was a better team ai has a good team dweebs
No A.I more impressive. LeBron body size can do more on the court. A.I was out there getting punished.
David White u couldnt say it better.
David White LeBron was in his 15th season and people forget that
Mmm so why every one bron size dont put up stats like him?
1111 Sports Fr lol
Lol lebron is better
Thank you Eddie House Iverson is a legend all time great top 5 in my era
Jehremy Johnson eddie house kept it real jus like kmart
they were bias lol
💯
Lmaoo wait? so Lebron is not a TOP 2???
@@trynafindmytribe5353 i hope you are talking ab the year 2000
Kenyon looks like he'll slap the Hostess cupcakes out of Whitlock's mouth.
He will
Lmaooooo
I lovvvve the way these two former players put the “media guys” in there place.😂
Frederick Hamilton facts 😂😂
5:31 😂😂😂😂
They don’t listen to players at all. Media think they know everything
Sports and More sounds good I am interested
donnell brown I agree!
When Eddie House shut Colin up telling him "you tell me you hate stats but you always yelling them" i bout died laughing. So true.
I can't even do what Allen Iverson did in 2k18
In a video game U cant shoot better than 38%?
A.I. was That Kidd fo ah reason bee😊
A.I. by far he was 6 ft 160 soaking wet and he played Ray Allen, Vince Carter in their prime during that playoff run.
Do not forget the Mamba.
At best of 2018, Lebron faves Victor Oladipo, Demarcus Derozan & either Horford or Tatum then faced a much stacked team than the Lakers... AI still won a game regardless w/ also his limited size, AI wins this debate
Ray allen played for Seattle lol wtf that's in West
Bobby Lane Ray Allen didn’t get Traded to Seattle until 03. He was drafted by Milwaukee.
AI so goo huh I can’t find his ring🧐
Pound for pound best player ever Allen Iverson
Pound for Pound best player ever is Isiah "Zeke" Thomas..AI is 2nd tho
@@Bude_Jellingham s. curry maybe 250th
@@Bude_Jellingham 1 on 1? I'll put my $$$ on Team Iverson
nah
@@Bude_Jellingham Zeke is my guy but no. Stop it.
I love how the players put up knowledge. Keep it going guys.
The hate on Lebron has always been there. The players have knowledge but they are often wrong. it's also personal for them and who they like more and no one loves Goliath...
AI got 1 against prime Shaq, rising Kobe and the powerhouse Lakers who swept the entire Western Playoffs, which by the way was super loaded in the early 2000s.
Bron got swept by GSW.
Go figure.
Jerald Vincent Zumel ai actually had help, him + a good coach, a 6moty & dpoty.. I think Bron should've stole at least one game But after game 1 , how it ended, that series was over
Die hard Lakers fan over here! 💯💯💯 But A.I. was a beast! He’s the driving force that earned respect from Kobe-made him work harder for his wins,drove him towards what we all know now to be “The Mamba Mentality”. I have nothing but love for Iverson. 💯💯💯
Healthy Glen Rice too I think
And you're telling me the warriors with kd aren't on that level? Foh dude.
I mean AIs run was more impressive but lebronnjust played better. Nd as dominant as Lakers were, GSW is a better team than a rising Kobe and prime Shaq. GSW is a prime KD, prime Curry, Prime Klay and Prime Draymond. AImis more impressive but u way off, any other player but Lebron do what Lebron did and it’s historical
Iverson had it harder so he was more impressive.
Jordan was more talented and athletic than everybody in his prime, making the game easier for him. I guess that mean his career wasn't as impressive as many think
iverson had to go against shaq and kobe
Will C lebron had to go against the spurs dynasty and kd steph dray and klay and your point is
my point IS. LEBRON went against those guys with who? Who did AI have against kobe and shaq? Wade, Bosh, Allen. Love, Kyrie. AI had who? your point is? Mutumbo? Eric Snow? sit down boy who started watching nba in 2011.
Jay Bdk lol no
Not even close AI in 01 had one of the best playoffs run I have ever seen
Yes with 38.9% shooting
@@jph5913 and you point is what???
@@StatusQ_ huh???🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@B_Thompson_215 Lebron was BETTER whether you want to say ai was more impressive doesn’t really matter
Although I guess I see it because he was a worse player so it is more unexpected
@@StatusQ_ I’m a bron fan and I never said A.I was better then him so wtf are u tlkin about....stop hating on A.I and he is better than Kobe n thts a fact...
*A.I Run was tougher this Nba is weak you get all the calls*
Manny King Money check the stats . Lebron james played in 2003 and 2004 where the rules where still hand check up until 2005. He was a beast for rookie year in 03. 04 he average 27 7 7 2stls 48% shooting. Etc.
Exactly. Its too soft.
Jaman Washington and didn't make playoffs
I agree.
@@jamanwashington902 he just got his shot up. Recently he was a. Big time Bricker. And he still is in 4th quarters moments
They pull out the most ridiculous topics to mention lebron
When something hasn't been done in like 17 years, it isn't the end of the world if they make a topic about it. If Steph did it they'd have the same topic up and you'd be okay with it.
T biscuit
Ofc I'd be
Every day its lebron lebron lebron
How insane is this
Like every day did he surpass MJ...are you kidding me.
This constant talk about the same thing is stupid
KAT and kawhi might leave and each get a 2 min for that while he gets half a day of talking irrelevant things
That's offseason topic stuff, dw you'll get some of that when it actually happens.
T biscuit
Its like this during summer, fall, winter, spring
24/365
NeoLegendX how is this ridiculous?
Topic: what’s better chicken or turkey
Colin: turkey is like Westbrook ……
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
lmao
shamory small 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so true!!
AI was not swept at least. Let’s start from that.
AI is a far inferior player to Lebron........lets end it with that
@@franknice187 which makes A.I more impressive. He's not as good. Not as big. Still carried
0 championships because of his selfishness. Let's end with that
AI lost 4-1 and the series wasn’t even close, he never even got close to the finals again. lebron went to the finals 8 years straight, got multiple rings and he’ll probably go back to the finals again. I’d choose a different argument
@@brown_xKMD They almost lost in game 1 because he got locked up by T Lue
iverson did it better with lesser teammates in 2001
This jokers said that Leflop had it more difficult!!! AI got no AllStar in that team. It was him against the world. AI was the man back in the day, had it more difficult than LBJ
lebron has allstar kevin love buahhha he always choke in playoffs
cha sam how does lebron flop tell me one time he flop against the Celtics or warriors 2017
cha sam LeBron had to win a ring against the Golden State Warriors, how did AI perform in the Finals? 🤔
Rafał A.I. played with a HOF DPOY in Dekembe Mutombo.
that Iverson team that made the finals was the worst team ever to make a finals
Didn’t lebron average 20ppg as a rookie while hand checking was allowed?
Yeah didn't AI average 24 as a rookie when hand checking was allowed?
MyFriendlyPup and AI was shooting a way worse percentage lmao. U forgot that FACT
lebron shot 41% his rookie year (fact)
MyFriendlyPup ok since we rounding up lebron averaged 21ppg on one less shot attempt a game than ai , and lebron skipped college while ai was in college for two years, I’m from philly but even I know lebron is a better player
Shawn Mathew are you stupid or what? Lol LBJ being better than Iverson is a given. Imagine A.I being 6.5 & LBJ 6.0
See...this is what I'm sayin!! Eddie House gives more RESPECT to AI than MJ!!
He's right though with THIS topic!!
MJ had help, AI didnt
insight001Al had help and but the east was wide open then
str8duval untill Lebron came in 03
Kevin Ellis When did Kyrie or Klove make the playoffs?
insight001 where not talking about KLove or Kyrie stop changing the subject Lebron didn't make the playoffs into his 3rd year after u said the east stop being wide open in 03 stick to you're comment
Iverson of course
I always use this same explanation anytime I speak of Iverson. How he lead them to the play offs was so impressive because he was going to war each night. He played way above his size. The Answer 💯
Lebron is now in year 19 still terrorizing opponents.
@@The_Word_Is_The_Way terrorizing who, the rockets lol
@@juansanders-ck1ol I posted that comment when he was entering his 19th year. He just completed year 21.
Smh
Iverson would avg 40 in LBJ nba today.
Iverson played thru injury his whole career.
Lmfaooooo
Average 40 on 38 shots.... a.i was great but he wasn’t efficient at all
@@Johenz a career 42 pct shooter isnt efficient?
A.I was a scoring machine in a more physical era. Hands off would let iverson off the leash... 🏃💨
today tmrrw 42% for an nba player is terrible bro. That’s inefficient for a professional nba player. The worse teams in the nba are shooting 43% from the field. Steph curry, Kevin’s Durant, Larry bird all had season shooting similar % from the 3 as iverson shot from the entire field. Iverson played most of his career without hand checking, hand checking was taken out in the 03-04 season, iverson retired in 2010. Lack of Handchecking didn’t change his career, his scoring didn’t change much per 100 position, what changes season to season was his usage rate. And his highest scoring season he had a negative plus/minus. And that’s the definition of inefficient. Scoring 33 ppg and having little impact on the games. What got iverson to become irrelevant was his lack of team contributions and all about his numbers. Nba team also started to lean towards more efficiency and iverson was becoming a huge liability, a 18 ppg score with a negative plus/ minus
@@Johenz Aha... 42% fg 36%-39% 3pt 85%ft 100% lion.
Numbers never lie.
Allen is Lebron FAVORITE PLAYER. I'll reserve from comment.
Joe 7374 faCts
Whitlock got ate 😂 so much he changed his mind hahaha
Iverson is more impressive💯💯
How many 'Chips he got? Iverson I mean?
@@fredrickmeredith3564how many chips has Lebron lost, as a matter of fact the finals run their alluding to he LOST
Iverson more impressive, and had almost nobody.
COTY, 6MOTY, DPOY...
@@Xzei Well he should have got Coach of the year... nobody knows how they made it to the finals. 6moty LOL he only won cuz of the team and how far they made it, he had like 11 a game LMAO. DPOY hey Dikembe already won that a few times, and at 34 and the team built around Defense and AI, he won, it only helped that he had Ratliff next to him.
Your comment is still flawed. Try again. 2018 team had a lot more help, and alot more all-stars.
@@mrblend
Every team gets an all-star... I'd rather have a teammate get an award fe get
DPOY>All-Star
1st Team>All-Star
But if "all-star" (seriously remember Kobe getting voted in when he was hurt? Yao?) means something to you... then... good job
@@Xzei Cmon man.... Did you even watch that season? there was like no offense it was all generated through A.I.
MrBlend AI was younger than LeBron was at that point, LeBron still came through even after his star player went down with a concussion, and after that finals game 1 I can say AI had better and competent teammates than LeBron did that year
Iversons is more impressive dude had no team put it on his BACK each game I wish they would have won the finals
Same here, he put it on his bck he played it on the Floor, he gave you %290+ each and every night he played on Offense & Defense. To me he got better " Handles " than Kyrie but hey we all have our own Opinions.
Put what on his back? His team in 2001 was the best defensive team he has the defensive player of the year coach of the year and sixth man of the year that team was built around ai gameplay ballhog thats why they surrounded him with defensive players
@@hanzdominiccastro8990 you just debunked your argument lmfao, Defensive players with no offensive attributes. Iverson carried that team case and point.
More impressive? Iverson.
Better player? Lebron and it’s not close.
Not lebron fault Iverson was built like a actual human and lebron is built like an Android.
mlking213 100% correct
Who tf is debating that lol? Everyone knows Bron’s better than AI. But AI’s 01 playoff run was more impressive.
Andrew Blackop that’s what he just said 😂😂😂
Keyshon Jones But he said Bron is better than AI when literally nobody was debating that lol it’s obvious
Andrew Blackop oh fasho, I agree
LeBron took Erik Snow to the Finals......
So did AI back in 2001
MrKing8050 made my point
FrankWillTV Allen Iverson took Eric Snow to the Finals first. Seee how dumb you look
Marc Regal If Snow was considered mediocre when he played with Iverson then what do you think he was 7 years later with LeBron? Nothing dumb about my statement but it clearly went over your head. Not to mention LeBron was straight out of high school takin mediocre talent to the Finals in his 4th year.
FrankWillTV you win lol
If you don't think height and weight matters in basketball you are a fool.
KoachKrab127 If you weigh 50lbs less that the guy you try driving on, you won't be able to move him in the slightest. You need a balance of both
They are comparing Iverson’s best year as stud to LeBron’a 15th season lol
Literally if LeBron was in the 90s he would have a different way of play because of the era it would change a player. The more he gets banged up the more he would be used to it. He is a crybaby in this league because of the rules the rules effect the playstyle
Comparing my guy LeBron to everyone smh LOL
Jay Kelz The only guy you can compare Lebron to is Durant. Lebron was the first snake.
Mikey J snake how? He went to a boarderline playoff team
if ai won a title it would be comparable but he lost in 5 so...lebron run is better cause of the stats
Asmosis what are you talking about playoffs aren't even over
Jay Kelz That's because he's a Legend. Legends get debated and brought up against other Legends. :D
All they had to do was do a rundown of the Sixers' playoff roster that season and the conversation would've been over. Philly had absolutely no shooters other than Iverson.
So lebron can play bully ball now. but when yall talk about vs jordan 1 on 1 he cant be a bully?? get out of here
No it's wasn't LeBron 6 8 260 and Iverson was 6 foot 170 and still dropped 30 easy one of the most underrated players in NBA history
More like 5'10 5'11 165
30? He dropped 50+ against Toronto in one series.
Iverson isn’t overrated, he’s rated where he is. Iverson is too inefficient to be rank higher. Media love efficiency while players want the guys who will take 40 shots
@@Johenz I think efficiency goes out the window, when your option A, B, C, and D......who else was going to score on that team?
38% from the field is easy?
Nothing was more impressive than what I, myself witnessed with my own eyez in 2001, but what should be mentioned is everyone's busy comparing LBJ to MJ; meanwhile, he's being exactly what he said he wanted to be. "I didn't want to be Jordan, I wanted to be A.I." -LBJ
Christopher Lawrence Me toooo bro ...I give Eddie House and Kmart more respect for keeping it real
AI was waaaaay more exciting. LBJ is somewhat predictable.
Al B ur a clown
iverson had to do what he did
lebron chooses to play this style he doesnt have to
Mike Anderson LeBron does have to play his style. His team is far too inconsistent. If he ever change his style of play then he would have more people like yourself saying he should take over because of his size. He is really at a catch 22 no matter what he does
AI plays the way he plays. He is uncoachable. Big heart, yes but small brain. He was one of the most gifted players pound for pound but he didnt have the work ethic like kobe to stay relevant and he didnt elevate his teamates play the way jkidd and nash did. He had the team in Denver but that team underachieved with him on point guard. The moment that billups came to denver, they reached the wcf. Iverson is a glorified scorer and thats it.
@@Apo_Ni_Baby_Kupal lol, glorified? Nah an awesome scoring he didnt need dunks like your hype machine
Amen!!! A.I. Hands down!!! Plus he still got one win in LA in a stacked Lakers squad
L A ain't golden state is now?
One win...
Dominique Clark
Hwhhehehshhshshshsgs
I’ll give you that-I’m a die hard Lakers fan,but A.I. was a force to be reckoned with! 💯💯💯 I honestly wished he could’ve won a championship. He’s definitely one of the G.O.A.T.’s!!!💯💯💯🤩💪🏽
Since when do we penalize guys for their size?
*LeBron:* 34.0 PTS, 9.1 REB, 9.0 AST, 61.9 TS%
*Iverson:* 32.9 PTS, 4.7 REB, 6.1 AST, 48.0 TS%
People are lazy with their takes. So stop taking dese jabronies seriously dawg😎
1:43 sums up both of their mentalities. Thanks, Kenyon.
People that never played sports or aren't active need to stop these comparisons. They are extremely inaccurate and blatantly misleading the listeners with this crapolla filled in their own heads
So hold on...
Jordan @ 1.98m, 98kg and
Iverson @ 1.83m and 75kg
Would get more buckets in today's NBA but...
LeBron @ 2.03m and 113kg
Would struggle in the 90's NBA?
Lmao, go figure.
And I'm pretty sure hand checking was still a thing when Lebron first came into the league and he was averaging over 20 a game as a Rookie with those rules still in place. If he had to continue playing under those rules his whole career, he would have adapted.
George Lagoon agree , but his mentally wont , probably will cry everytime get knocked out hard and gave up
They played man on man no zone. No one doubled anyone. Lebron would run through ppl
They just saying he wouldn't be as efficient, he would still be great
George Lagoon yes cause they were shooters and todays game suits shooters and LeBron wouldn't be able to play bullyball
Tbh Iverson was more impressive just purely because of the inspiring toughness and determination, the relentless will to win and the killer mentality. I appreciate he was nowhere near as efficient as LeBron and Bron is my guy but can you all imagine if you could put Iverson's heart, aggression and toughness into LeBron's body with his basketball IQ... oh my lord its a wrap.
Shaun Brooks People who quote Stats didnt see the actual players play. Stats dont tell the whole story.
Brzy 07 LeBron. You can't measure heart. It takes a true competitor to do what LeBron has done in this decade alone.
Lebron dunks alot he cant shoot good as ai on mid to long range despite being soo tal and jumping over defenders
They forget that LeBron, Wade, Melo, Bosh, Howard and a few others came into the league when they were hand checking.
Iverson has no FLOP compilation on youtube! He got hit really hard AND HE JUST GET BACKUP!!!
That’s why Shaq gave him high praise fo years bee👍🏿
AI was easily more impressive. Also his run he had to go up against Prime Vince Carter and Ray Allen
You do realize early 2000s was the worst the east conference ever was
Tony Son don't forget about #8
Smell Fatlock's seat or fight prime Brock Lesnar and Lebron in 2 on 1 iron-man match?
A.I is EASILY more impressive! Come on DOGG! Stop IT
nah actually lebron is
Iverson never tried to recruit to come play with him. The man is a PITBULL!
A.I.- With his size, his electrifying moves, his basketball I.Q( passing ability) and those guys he played against his talents shot beyond the roof-depicting his ultimate dominance and being one of the greats that ever played the game-no question.
Analysts arguing with nba players...
I like how they made all the points without bringing up the fact that LeBron is doing this in season 15. It’s actually closer than the old players make it seem.
The rules now will benefit Lebron James, 6'8, 250. LMAO. But wait he was too weak and small in the 90s. Those guys were way FASTER, way STRONGER, way more SKILLED. GTFOH.
Who remembers 2 years previous to getting to 2001 Finals Larry Brown tried to trade AI it fell thru when Matt Geiger refused to be part of that package deal.
I don't get the "if people could handcheck Lebron" argument because
1. Everyone already mentioned he bigger and stronger than everyone so you think he still can't get to the whole?
2. If the league was more physical how come no one thinks Lebron would be able to be more physical on offense and really lay someone out going to the hole?
3. If people could hand check Lebron then guess what? Lebron would be able to hand check them to and no one would be getting passed him.
It works both ways that argument is stupid. I mean if John Stockton (6'1 176 pounds) could keep up with the physicality of the game at the point in time where everyone says was the most physical and excel then why wouldn't Lebron be able to? lol like come on really?
Gregory Smith is because LeBron is soft
Gregory Smith LeBron wouldn’t be as big (physically) as he is now if he were in that era due to the training and what not
It is such a stupid arguement...
*Hole, *past
He could play 2x harder then he does
Lol they always bring up Physicality but never bring up how much more Skilled players are Now
AI was a savage. He putting up fourty for his size. Way more impressive when a little guy does it
So 6’6 210 Jordan can take hand checking but omg if 6’9 260 Lebron just couldn’t take it 💀
He could, just his fgp would drop a little, I'd say 50% which is still very good.
If someone defense you like that .. you getting tired and frustrated man ,, have you ever play basketball? Physical on just the backyard
Its close but it was so much harder for Allen Iverson. The guy was 6ft 165 -170 pounds. He was essentially a point guards body playing shooting guard.
Also if it wasn't for Tyrone Lue Iverson might have took the mighty Lakers to 7 games.
so its lebron fault to be 6'9
Whitlock is talking Ali and Frazier versus Sugar Ray Robinson and Leonard? The heavyweights don't fight the middleweight, fool.
Apparently Whitlock knows nothing of boxing, what does Whitlock think the "pound for pound" debates are about....
Regarding why A.I.'s Philadelphia team won 56 games that year, it probably had a ton to do with them being in the top 5 in defense, free throw attempts, and rebounding, including 2nd best in offensive rebounding percentage.
Colin "Well, I'm pretty ripped." Hahahaha too much! Classic!
AI shooting 38% lmao
Siz Zy yea but he's under 6 ft and he's going up against 7 footers
Siz Zy Lebron shot 35% FG in the 2007 Finals....
Josh checkmate lololol
kharis87 They just don't know lol....
Josh They are talking about this years run
Kenyon is putting Fatlock in his place, Love it. AI was a freak of nature. Better respect on his name.
Here 5 years later still laughing
Eric Show 😂😂😂
Rashan Swint was he the reason they were called the Showtime Lakers?? Lol Colin man
it went from LBJ being 6'9" 260- 6'8" 260- 6'9"- 265😂😂
Eddie and kenyon right..its two different eras
And lebron play in their era also and still avg 20 plus and he adjust to this 3 ball era
That 01 Lakers team came into the finals without losing while 07 Spurs came into finals and stopped losing.
I remember Iverson as a rookie dropping 40 burgers against MJ and Pippen, I remember him giving the Twin Towers Spurs 40burgers, he's a goat
Coonlock has NO IDEA what he is talking about. Iverson was wayyyyyyy more impressive.
Ask LeBron who was his favorite player growing up
Jordan
Iverson didn’t get swept 🤷🏽♂️
@Robert Phillips he did play with wade, bosh, ray allen, kyrie, love, gtfoh
@Robert Phillips cuz he played the lakers if AI would’ve played anybody else he would’ve won
Allen Iverson carried the largest offensive load of any team to reach the NBA Finals in the shot-clock era. Excluding Iverson, the 2001 Sixers averaged 60.3 PPG in the 22 Playoff games that Iverson played. No other team to reach the NBA Finals has had less PPG outside of their leading scorer.
I have to agree with the player's
Lebron built this team...he is the GM. Iverson had a team handed to him and did more with them.
Lie...
As of now we do know iverson went to the NBA finals with that team. Lebron still has to overcome this celtic team to even make a case. What Lebron is doing is off the charts but whats more impressive? To me its for sure Iverson.
Did more?? Definitely not....yeah he went to the finals but he only won 1 game. Which is extremely impressive! I'm a huge A.I fan but this could really go either way. These old dudes just wanna make their era seem better but LeBron played with hand checking too.
You get Steven Jackson up there and you get the trifecta of former role player, non hall of fame players that haaaaaaate LeBron!!!! Even Paul Peirce has come around (HOFer).TMac,Zeke,Shaq,Kenny,Chuck,Pip, Mr Big shot,Magic etc, all recognize greatness regardless of era. Regardless if they think MJ Is the 🐐! And they are allll HOFers!!! These 2...man the hate is ooozing out! And iHate Whitelock btw!
how about LeBron in 07? At 22.
I love Lebron but AI is 6ft and had no other scorers on his team
had the best defense
Its similar but Id give the nod to Iverson….it was his run that made me fall in love with basketball…..those game 7s vs the Raptors and Bucks…..and then came out and punched the Lakers in the mouth in game 1…..when I went to sleep after game 1 I really thought Iverson was going to win a chip….he only got 1 game in that finals but that was enough to cement his legacy.
Nana Gyambibi don’t forget all the injuries he was playing through in 2001 finals run too
Ain’t nobody hand checking LeBron and it affects him lol
NBA players heaps high praise upon Allen Iverson and its well deserved.
Hose talks about LBJ not showing up but him as a role player with the Cavs never really showed up for his role, LBJ was all alone with nothing but bums For some reason House does not want to own up to it. Its fun to ride in the passenger seat until its time to push when the cars out of gas
They need Stephen A. and Max in this convo bruhhhh 🤦♂️ #TheAnswer
Never hear Ali and Joe Louis not being compared to Sugar Ray? Has this man never seen Coming to America? Or been to a barbershop where they talked about boxing?
Iverson was on a team with defensive players that average under 10 pts. Everybody knew where the ball was going to and he still did what he did. Iverson is a beast if he played in today's NBA he would've had 6 straight 50pt+ games.
Lmbo the ACTUAL nba players just put the so called “won’t get picked at all in the gym” analysts in they place. They was so quiet 😂😂😂
Also Lebron has played with most All Stats in NBA history. With the exception of Robert Horry...Just saying.
Jair Castillo dont for get he took his talents to south beach to team up...Ai never did day
that
@LeVelle Coley dunking helped his numbers
It makes no since for those who simply observe, and report on the game, to argue with guys who actually played basketball !!
Soooo... I guess LeBron is going to be compared to everybody huh
StephanLamar81
I agree. How come jordan doesnt get compard to everyone? I know Lebron is the best basketball player to EVER play. Jordan would be destroyed in todays social media.
StephanLamar81 dont stress it....lebron n Ai cool
Lebrons shooting percentage is remarkable but one thing I can say, is he does get a lot of shots in the paint but this fade away he’s now shooting is awesome
Bro these guys really hating on Lebron because how easy he makes basketball look. That’s so wild 😂 just be because he made it look easy, doesn’t mean it is.
Iverson was dawg but folks always talk like 2003 was last yr. "This era"...this isn't Bron era. This Steph era.
This aged bad
@@KingKalidor it's Steph era
The east trash LBJ beating a team full of young boys I give him full credit but Shaq, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Dirk, Tim Duncan would be killing this team 2 putting up crazy number LBJ is not and should not lose to a team lead by Jaylen Brown
Eric Show.... Lol
”you could coach the 76ers and guess how much AI would average”
For once,thank you Eddie house! NO ONE with Allen iverson’s size & skill has dominated the nba such as he has......it kills me when ppl bring up Kobe,lebron,kd,curry,Wade, & melo when it comes to them being a better player than Allen iverson at HIS HEIGHT