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  • Kenyon Martin questions why Russell Westbrook isn't on Colin Cowherd's NBA Top 10 players list. Plus, Kenyon compares James Harden and Russell Westbrook and hear what he says about LeBron and Jordan.
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  • @TheHerdOnFS1
    @TheHerdOnFS1  6 років тому +92

    Who is on your NBA Top 10 players list?

    • @unanimousdecision6107
      @unanimousdecision6107 6 років тому +28

      The Herd with Colin Cowherd
      1. LeBron
      2. KD
      3. Harden
      4. Steph
      5. Westbrook
      6. AD
      7. Giannis
      8. CP3
      9. Cousins
      10. Kyrie

    • @devontefigures2289
      @devontefigures2289 6 років тому +1

      The Herd with Colin Cowherd what's your channel on TV

    • @Savage-ew6yz
      @Savage-ew6yz 6 років тому +61

      Not Ben Simmons

    • @zxcvfr4321
      @zxcvfr4321 6 років тому +2

      The Herd with Colin Cowherd
      1/2 - KD & LBJ (no explanation needed for top 2. Why it's not clearly James.. - everything needs to run through him.. it's not easy to play with that.. and he's old and I don't care what anyone says, he's not as good as he used to be. But.. lbj still good enough to be 1)
      3 - Steph (changes the whole game when he's in. I can hear a reasonable argument for #1 Bec of how he effects the entire game)
      4 - Klay (don't freek out.. give me a sec.. second best shooter.. arguable in history. Top defender, makes great decision [that's underrated in basketball because of how it effects the entire team], capable of scoring 60, but selfless enough to take a back seat to not 1 but 2 players [also extremely underrated aspect]
      5/6 - Lenard AD (I wouldn't argue that either of them could b 3)
      7/8 - Draymond & Iggy (can hit the open 3 and guard multiple positions, which allows their team to play several lineups and always have the advantage. Also, both are athletic enough to cause havoc on D and on the boards. Also very selfless players)
      9 - Harden (I can hear a reasonable argument for top 3 for him)
      10 - Paul George (wait till he's away from Russ and everyone remembered how good he is.. no holes in good game. Could be higher)
      11* - Greek free
      12* - Simmons (style of play that effects the team.. again, vastly underrated. He could very well be #1 in a few years. I believe he'll dominate the league almost as much as James has)
      *Just missed the cut, but good enough to be in the top tier

    • @zxcvfr4321
      @zxcvfr4321 6 років тому +1

      1/2 - KD & LBJ (no explanation needed for top 2. Why it's not clearly James.. - everything needs to run through him.. it's not easy to play with that.. and he's old and I don't care what anyone says, he's not as good as he used to be. But.. lbj still good enough to be 1)
      3 - Steph (changes the whole game when he's in. I can hear a reasonable argument for #1 Bec of how he effects the entire game)
      4 - Klay (don't freek out.. give me a sec.. second best shooter.. arguable in history. Top defender, makes great decision [that's underrated in basketball because of how it effects the entire team], capable of scoring 60, but selfless enough to take a back seat to not 1 but 2 players [also extremely underrated aspect]
      5/6 - Lenard AD (I wouldn't argue that either of them could b 3)
      7/8 - Draymond & Iggy (can hit the open 3 and guard multiple positions, which allows their team to play several lineups and always have the advantage. Also, both are athletic enough to cause havoc on D and on the boards. Also very selfless players)
      9 - Harden (I can hear a reasonable argument for top 3 for him)
      10 - Paul George (wait till he's away from Russ and everyone remembered how good he is.. no holes in good game. Could be higher)
      11* - Greek free
      12* - Simmons (style of play that effects the team.. again, vastly underrated. He could very well be #1 in a few years. I believe he'll dominate the league almost as much as James has)
      *Just missed the cut, but good enough to be in the top tier

  • @MasenkOG
    @MasenkOG 6 років тому +1713

    Wait did Colin just say Giannis ain’t a shooter which is why he’s lower then Simmons lmfao

    • @soonerintexas.3845
      @soonerintexas.3845 6 років тому +133

      Lmao.. Right! Dudes a clown...

    • @eastsideraven18
      @eastsideraven18 6 років тому +55

      MasenkOG Right😂😂😂 I Was Like Wtf That Contradicts His Whole Argument

    • @ImJahcobo
      @ImJahcobo 6 років тому +55

      Also Simmons cant make a 3 to save his life...Giannis can shoot and make a 3

    • @RonBrady2k
      @RonBrady2k 6 років тому +5

      First thing I said right !!!! Blasphemy

    • @ioanniskal2668
      @ioanniskal2668 6 років тому +23

      Jack Stevehill what does Simmons better than Giannis, except maybe passing?

  • @tedunseth3966
    @tedunseth3966 5 років тому +404

    I'm very impressed with Kenyon Martin. This guy is very intelligent.

    • @runbho710
      @runbho710 5 років тому +2

      Nah he a hater

    • @andremoreno1112
      @andremoreno1112 5 років тому +9

      The smartest guy I've ever seen with a lip tattoo on his neck. Although his take on Jeremy Lins hair was ridiculous

    • @ctaylor321
      @ctaylor321 5 років тому +7

      Agreed. I get tired of all the asterisks that people put on guys like LeBron, but I don't think he'd be as fresh at 35 if he'd played Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn and Joe Dumars, Kevin McHale and Robert Parrish, Darryl Dawkins, Moses Malone, Shaq.. Kenyon Martin tells it like it is and like it was. And by the way, he played like an 80s and 90s basketball player

    • @yaheard3918
      @yaheard3918 5 років тому +4

      Yet he doesn’t say anything about what if players today were allowed to handcheck. Imagine lebron or giannis and kawhi allowed to handcheack. They would become even better on the defensive side.

    • @caseywalker1714
      @caseywalker1714 5 років тому +3

      Why are the LeBron fans so crazy about any critic of him...

  • @miguelarellano4394
    @miguelarellano4394 6 років тому +498

    Lmao Kenyon destroyed him😂😂😂.

    • @christiankarlkarganilla2763
      @christiankarlkarganilla2763 5 років тому +2

      Miguel Arellano I never get tired of watching this 😂

    • @shinken209
      @shinken209 5 років тому +3

      Couldn't agree more. He got destroyed.....
      You can tell Colin is a "Lebron Lover"...
      I'm not all about MJ....but you can tell when someone is a "Lebron Lover"....

    • @jibranmartinez8518
      @jibranmartinez8518 2 роки тому

      Faaacts . Whole time I was like Colin getting toasted out here

  • @milart12
    @milart12 6 років тому +669

    I like Kenyon Martin as an analyst

    • @eliguaso22
      @eliguaso22 6 років тому +15

      Yeah, someoneshould throw a freaking contract to his face. Reaaally good, gd

    • @odysseusx3380
      @odysseusx3380 6 років тому +12

      Because he was a good player.

    • @matthewwatson9733
      @matthewwatson9733 6 років тому +15

      I agree. He was solid with every point. I would watch him.

    • @trevorjroberts
      @trevorjroberts 6 років тому +19

      Colin just got schooled. Love Kenyon. Further proof that the players know so much more than these stat boys.

    • @lornvichethvithia5692
      @lornvichethvithia5692 6 років тому +4

      only one thing i dont like is he disrespect D Rose

  • @daevonthesavage7483
    @daevonthesavage7483 5 років тому +100

    Fox sports GET KENYON A CONTRACT PLEASE. Man's smoked Cowherd on his own show..... let me say it again:
    *_MANS SMOKED COWHERD ON HIS OWN SHOW!_*

    • @dewaynepatrick6794
      @dewaynepatrick6794 3 роки тому

      A bench warmer should smoke an "analysis"- they played the game.

  • @OgLoC2
    @OgLoC2 6 років тому +288

    Colin needed to be called out. Well done Kenyon

  • @Icecodes
    @Icecodes 6 років тому +387

    Colin got exposed falsely promoting Simmons.

    • @joabjohnstone5217
      @joabjohnstone5217 6 років тому +1

      nerdwithjordans yeah I agree but geez westbricke ain't too 10

    • @nguont
      @nguont 5 років тому +2

      Yep to have Ben Simmons in that list at this stage he loses any credibility

    • @1closer
      @1closer 5 років тому

      Been is next level

  • @chosendrawz
    @chosendrawz 6 років тому +522

    Its ridiculous for Colin to put Ben Simmons above Harden, Giannis Kawhi and Kyrie, WITH NO RUSSELL WESTBROOK in his Top 10. This completely undermines his credibility as a NBA analyst

    • @Brandon77maniaci
      @Brandon77maniaci 6 років тому +18

      CJ Chewjore he's not a analysts he's a fan just like anyone else.

    • @yamamancha
      @yamamancha 6 років тому +13

      He did it for the shock factor and knew full well he'd get taken to shop for it. It creates talking points.
      Simmons' got potential but he can't shoot from 6 feet out.

    • @_I.M.
      @_I.M. 6 років тому +6

      Colin does a terrible job covering topics in the NBA.

    • @jakethesnake540
      @jakethesnake540 6 років тому +8

      He is not an analyst, he's an entertainer. If you want real analysis you need to watch my show, Undisputed.

    • @chriswee5903
      @chriswee5903 6 років тому +2

      CJ Chewjore russ is in my top ten but there are lots of people that don’t think westbrook is top 10. But I don’t agree with his Ben Simmons ranking

  • @rizsalongavlogs
    @rizsalongavlogs 6 років тому +248

    KMart is an intelligent basketball analyst. He sees not only the statistics but the intangible things in basketball.. That comes with experience. Sad to say, Colin was just exposed here.
    This is a classic case of an "analyst" by statistics getting x'ed out by an analyst by experience.

    • @kibirdie
      @kibirdie 5 років тому +1

      Rizen Salonga FACTS!!! “Did he walk by and not speak” 😭😭

    • @alixmagik6706
      @alixmagik6706 5 років тому

      Can we just fire Colin, for Kenyon regarding basketball

    • @hotboy6811
      @hotboy6811 5 років тому

      @@kibirdie lol

    • @hotboy6811
      @hotboy6811 5 років тому

      @@DTB1995 exactly

    • @johnlewis7333
      @johnlewis7333 4 роки тому

      @@DTB1995 by their logic Jordan can't play in the 70s and 60s would never drive the lane as Wilt stated

  • @bearnonnon
    @bearnonnon 6 років тому +113

    Don't get why Colin always tried to discredit 90’s basketball and MJ in order to lift up LeBron. Glad that we have Martin here telling the facts and the details.

    • @bobjeff6899
      @bobjeff6899 5 років тому

      That’s not true. LeBron isn’t even Colin’s top 3 list.

    • @derekpoland9374
      @derekpoland9374 5 років тому +1

      This is not true. Players that played before and after the handcheck rule, their stats stayed the same or got worse. The handcheck hardly changed how hard it is to score

    • @foreal69tu50
      @foreal69tu50 5 років тому +2

      Cause he covered the 2000s not the 90s.

    • @at1212b
      @at1212b 5 років тому +2

      @@derekpoland9374 you are a complete idiot. The NBA bragged about how the rules changes had the intended effect of increasing scoring because it's easier. Gawd you will be earning minimum wage your whole life with that level of dunceness.

    • @bearnonnon
      @bearnonnon 4 роки тому +3

      J G not sure today’s players are truly more skilled and athletic than the 80’s and 90’s. If you check out the prime time footages of Magic, Bird, Kareem, and Hakeem, John Stockton...you’ll find they are actually very skillful and have very high basketball IQ. If you go see Wilkins, Drexler, David Robinson, Karl Malone, Rodman, Barkley (yes. Sir Charles can explode like a dynamite!) you’ll find them very athletic and strong. Not to mention MJ, a perfect combination of skills and athleticism. 90’s is indeed a more intense and competitive era than today. That’s not a question at all.

  • @shae2222
    @shae2222 6 років тому +46

    Kenyon´s frankness is like a breath of fresh air....

  • @jamesk102
    @jamesk102 6 років тому +517

    Kenyon my second fav guest to Broussard

    • @japkor4115
      @japkor4115 6 років тому +16

      I think Broussard is generally a better guest but when it comes to cowherd it has to be Martin. Makes cowherd go speechless, it's hysterical.

    • @bjsw534
      @bjsw534 6 років тому +6

      James Kissinger I like Jim Jackson first then Broussard then KMart and anybody over Stephen Jackson lmao

    • @eastsideraven18
      @eastsideraven18 6 років тому

      James Kissinger He Not Ah Regular But Antonio Davis Had One Of The Best Segments On This Show. Made Some Great Points

    • @Str8Clips0
      @Str8Clips0 6 років тому +2

      Kenyon is my favorite and Chris is second lol

    • @NBAkingsfan10
      @NBAkingsfan10 6 років тому +1

      Joel Klatt!!!!

  • @mglperson
    @mglperson 6 років тому +156

    KMart is speaking 100% Facts!!!

    • @raybrooks1555
      @raybrooks1555 6 років тому +1

      i was impressed with his logic...

  • @tgodmarley28
    @tgodmarley28 6 років тому +170

    Kenyon is right, to back his argument...Penny Hardaway and T-Mac if they had today's medicine when they were hurt they wood have bounced back dramatically.

    • @williamleonhart177
      @williamleonhart177 6 років тому +21

      sad truth... both are very talented... i remember grant hill, brandon roy.. so many good carreers ended by injury

    • @MACSX7
      @MACSX7 5 років тому +1

      Hardaway for sure, TMac Had plenty of opportunity

    • @Penguins95268771
      @Penguins95268771 5 років тому +6

      Look at Bo Jackson in football prime example of bad sport medicine in the past.

    • @lionelpolo221
      @lionelpolo221 5 років тому +2

      Grant Hill and C Web had so much to give to the game

    • @Anchor7
      @Anchor7 5 років тому +1

      and grant hill

  • @kenm4390
    @kenm4390 6 років тому +11

    When Kmart hit em with that "Lebron's left handed" 😂😂😂😂

  • @BoxingWave
    @BoxingWave 6 років тому +1303

    Colin got bodied he needs 2 weeks paid vacation. This was bad.

  • @noagbogudki7766
    @noagbogudki7766 6 років тому +214

    Sadly I don’t think we’ll see Kenyon on the show for awhile, dude just bodied Colin 😂😂

    • @humphreybeaux
      @humphreybeaux 6 років тому +10

      Noag
      I agree. It should be the Kenyon Martin show. He clearly knows way more about basketball then Cowherd.

    • @biglukeybaby
      @biglukeybaby 6 років тому +1

      Indeed

    • @James-cm5rg
      @James-cm5rg 6 років тому +2

      i have to agree with you brother.

    • @manassatzhanov
      @manassatzhanov 6 років тому +1

      Barack Obama he says that Drey is more valueable than Klay, and that’s very arguable. clearly not automatic L

  • @sameersharief3000
    @sameersharief3000 6 років тому +135

    Colin got bodied by Kmart 💀

  • @jai_a_fool
    @jai_a_fool 5 років тому +44

    Should be named Kenyon Martin owns Colin Cowherd on his own show. Great points Kenyon!!

  • @staulelei
    @staulelei 5 років тому +10

    Kenyon did a great job explaining past and present differences. He did a great job period but when he explained that piece, I was nodding my head in agreement the whole time lol

  • @selinskyblkjusto2412
    @selinskyblkjusto2412 6 років тому +168

    Kenyon Martin on Collin ass😂

  • @JusMykeTV
    @JusMykeTV 6 років тому +294

    Thank you KMart

  • @christopherbrown1391
    @christopherbrown1391 6 років тому +196

    I am very glad a real basketball player is on here to correct Colin he can be a loose end sometimes

    • @erichuffman6665
      @erichuffman6665 6 років тому +9

      sometimes?

    • @soonerintexas.3845
      @soonerintexas.3845 6 років тому +4

      Loose end? Lol, That's putting it lightly... More like absolutely absurd and just a flat out hater...

    • @spitnificent
      @spitnificent 6 років тому

      Christopher Brown I agree.

  • @Coolruiz19
    @Coolruiz19 5 років тому +22

    This dude don’t know what his talking about. Kenyon schooled him with actual experience knowledge

  • @charlesbamford5367
    @charlesbamford5367 6 років тому +29

    He got educated by Kenyon Martin

  • @heroball8444
    @heroball8444 6 років тому +54

    Wow Colin u just got owned on ur own show 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @gguddaye1
      @gguddaye1 6 років тому +1

      It's been happening a lot this year 😂😂😂

  • @husseinbolt5503
    @husseinbolt5503 6 років тому +179

    Simmons can’t score outside five feet and he’s a top 5 player?! He’s not even the best player on his team lmao

    • @sambo416
      @sambo416 6 років тому +2

      Hussein Bolt shaq couldn’t score outside the paint...3 time championship mvp

    • @austingilkey306
      @austingilkey306 6 років тому +14

      cray 3K can't compare him to shaq😂😂

    • @bjsw534
      @bjsw534 6 років тому +3

      cray 3K he was also a center and that was a different era. In this era you need a reliable jumper to be elite. Same applies to big men I.e. Davis, Embiid, Cousins, Towns, KP and M.Gasol

    • @sambo416
      @sambo416 6 років тому

      Austin Gilkey no doubt but you also can't say someone isn't a top player because they couldn't score from 10 ft out, kareem couldn't shoot, wilt, Bill russel, magic you need other criteria. Ben simmons beat giannis in the playoffs facts.

    • @mr5timewcwchamp
      @mr5timewcwchamp 6 років тому +2

      cray 3K shaq was a center not a point guard. Their center has more range than their point guard.

  • @jeffogilvy5141
    @jeffogilvy5141 6 років тому +291

    Kenyon got no chill. I love it.
    Ps Kawhi should've been higher.

    • @wuxiagamescentral
      @wuxiagamescentral 6 років тому +7

      Bhavya Jani and Simmons shouldn't be on it can't shoot FTs can't shoot 3s or 2s only thing he has is he's 10 feet tall and he can pass... which everyone in the NBA should be able to do. You don't credit for passing the ball when you're a point guard

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 6 років тому

      kenyon didnt make any sense though. so who cares lmao

    • @danieldaw1778
      @danieldaw1778 6 років тому

      Bhavya Jani I'd say switch Ben and Kawhi. You can either keep him there or move him up to 3 if you want. Now take Ben off the list entirely. Put Russ in his spot (he and James Harden are honestly exchangeable, they're almost identical production and efficiency wise), move Giannis to 8th, take Klay off, replace Kyrie with CP3, and add Boogie.
      You end up with
      1. LeBron
      2. KD
      3. AD/Kawhi
      4. Steph/Kawhi
      5. Kawhi/Steph
      6. Harden/Russ
      7. Russ/Harden
      8. Giannis
      9. CP3
      10. Cousins

    • @sc239
      @sc239 6 років тому

      Boogie ''never even played in a playoff game'' Cousins?

    • @truthdetector4036
      @truthdetector4036 6 років тому

      Colin starts tryin to defend his top 10 pick..K-Mart: "I didn't aks you that" LOL

  • @Fadliabiyasa
    @Fadliabiyasa 5 років тому +40

    westbrook, one time mvp of the league, is not better than a rookie ben simmons?

  • @stickmanuploader1999
    @stickmanuploader1999 6 років тому +7

    1. LeBron
    2. KD
    3. Curry
    4. AD
    5. Giannis
    6. Kawhi
    7. Kyrie
    8. Klay
    9. Westbrook
    10. Embiid

  • @prodbyonetime8126
    @prodbyonetime8126 6 років тому +58

    “Not much of shooter” while comparing giannis to a guy who literally hasn’t hit a 3 lmao

  • @kevinmitchell386
    @kevinmitchell386 6 років тому +281

    Ben Simmons over harden I’m dead this man Colin is a hater Simmons isn’t even better then embiid but he’s better then harden smh

    • @erichuffman6665
      @erichuffman6665 6 років тому +4

      You think he hates Harden? LMAO Have you seen him talk about Westbrook let alone leave him off the top 10 list?

    • @eliasayala2370
      @eliasayala2370 6 років тому +9

      bruh exactly, Ben simmons ain't even on Tatums level yet but he better than james harden , Greek freak , and kyrie .... BLASPHEMOUS

    • @Pablo-ob9sb
      @Pablo-ob9sb 6 років тому

      Elias Ayala you’re insane Ben Simmons is so much better than Tatum lmao

    • @eliasayala2370
      @eliasayala2370 6 років тому +1

      Pablo416 this a Collin burner account right

    • @wolfgangsonne2230
      @wolfgangsonne2230 6 років тому

      Elias Ayala you have to be kidding me.. you actually think tatum is better than simmons? you can’t be serious

  • @LatinozFynest
    @LatinozFynest 6 років тому +37

    KMart needs his own show! He is so smart and took Collin to school about 90s bball versus today

    • @ousamaabdu794
      @ousamaabdu794 6 років тому +1

      Franco Valdez
      I definitely agree with your comments 100%!

  • @hashvideos4859
    @hashvideos4859 6 років тому +45

    Hand check... finally!!!! kenyon talks about the difference of the defense that benefits offensive players now

    • @wazzupizzy
      @wazzupizzy 5 років тому +3

      Ryan Mitchel Yu okay but you also have to factor in the illegal defense rule, which made players play man to man instead of zone, making it alot harder for big guys to score and makes it easier to defend against talent

    • @freddyarmstrong6952
      @freddyarmstrong6952 5 років тому

      @nabil chowdhury and it also shortened careers and it most of the time made for ugly basketball and too many injuries. Some people make it sound cool that you slam a player down for going to the basket but I say you wanna show me something, use your skills and block the shot. Man can we just get past the 80s and 90s damn

    • @freddyarmstrong6952
      @freddyarmstrong6952 5 років тому

      @nabil chowdhury that's all good but just like magic and Bird saved the league and Jordan elevated it, these players have taken it to places it's never been. You build off history not tear one era down because your favorite player is in one or the other. But let me say this, I can definitely appreciate someone your age even being Interested in the history of the league but don't get stuck on something behind you to the point you can't enjoy what's in front of you

  • @reneldonguya1430
    @reneldonguya1430 6 років тому +8

    Kmart just hit Collin with reality on the 90s toughness. Lmao

  • @heroball8444
    @heroball8444 6 років тому +75

    I think Kenyon Martin just appeared on his last episode of the heard 😂

    • @jhobgood8979
      @jhobgood8979 6 років тому +2

      AFRICAN ATHEIST UNITED your strong black guy comment is watered down racism. Stop playing you can't hide how you really feel.

    • @jhobgood8979
      @jhobgood8979 6 років тому

      AFRICAN ATHEIST UNITED I know exactly what racism is and youre racist because you're dying to call some white guy racist. Just because your black doesn't mean you're the only one who knows what racism is.

    • @andyouasiansdonthearthatwe5162
      @andyouasiansdonthearthatwe5162 6 років тому

      Hahaha

    • @jhobgood8979
      @jhobgood8979 6 років тому

      AFRICAN ATHEIST UNITED one phrase "white supremacist philosophy" is all that's needed for you to be known as racist. That's a common phrase used by people who try to label others as racist. You've used a lot of jargon to try and disguise your worldview but youre not fooling me. Don't try to insult my intelligence either. I'm a very educated man.

    • @jhobgood8979
      @jhobgood8979 6 років тому

      AFRICAN ATHEIST UNITED and just because you didn't explicitly say racist doesnt mean you arent. You chose a terrible username too if you were trying to be incognito about your beliefs.

  • @damianrodriguez2616
    @damianrodriguez2616 6 років тому +92

    simmons isn’t even a top 5 PG.
    1.Steph Curry
    2.Russell Westbrook
    3.Kyrie Irving
    4.Damian Lillard
    5.John Wall
    are all better point guards than Ben Simmons

    • @KingJori_
      @KingJori_ 6 років тому

      Damian Rodriguez Ehhh, Wall’s good, but I’d put Defrozen over him.

    • @damianrodriguez2616
      @damianrodriguez2616 6 років тому +19

      Jori Derozan is a SG/SF tho

    • @professorhectic3331
      @professorhectic3331 6 років тому +3

      Yes thank you for putting dame on this list, people don’t pay him that much respect just cuz he is own a bad team

    • @amx1820
      @amx1820 6 років тому +12

      Damian Rodriguez CP3

    • @joabjohnstone5217
      @joabjohnstone5217 6 років тому +3

      Damian Rodriguez I would add CP3 to the current list and James Harden who is playing PG.. John Wall has to make a case again Simmons was winning games with Embiid out and in one season is doing more than the wizards.. Simmons had the potential to be not only the top PG but perhaps the best player in the NBA but of course isn't close at the moment

  • @JKhan1987
    @JKhan1987 6 років тому +374

    Simmons should not be there yet. And says Giannis can't shoot. Uh Simmons can't shoot or score.

    • @kieren21944
      @kieren21944 6 років тому +16

      He can score just not from any further than 5 feet

    • @jimifender22
      @jimifender22 6 років тому +6

      That's the thing, Giannis can't shoot but he can shoot more than simmons right now. If Simmons could shoot as well as Giannis the Sixers might've beat boston last series.

    • @Big_Steve11
      @Big_Steve11 6 років тому +1

      Simmons scored a point

    • @kieren21944
      @kieren21944 6 років тому +1

      You do realize he played in other games right? He also led his team to a 16 game winning streak and balled out in the first round of the play-offs.

    • @MegaTobins696
      @MegaTobins696 6 років тому

      Simmons can score....1 point.
      Im not sure Giannis has ever had an 1 point game in his entire career so far. Simmons is a liability on offense

  • @2006tubeboy
    @2006tubeboy 5 років тому +5

    Love when Kenyon is on TV,man is hilarious and he's smart when he's discussing basketball

  • @m_w501
    @m_w501 6 років тому +23

    Simmons Had 1 Point In A Playoff Game, & Played 30+ Minutes. You Can't Be Top 10 Havin' 1 Point Performances.

  • @aeroant
    @aeroant 6 років тому +54

    A really entertaining interview...Kenyon holds Colin accountable!

  • @Icecodes
    @Icecodes 6 років тому +104

    Ben Simmons before Russell...Colin you don't know the game

    • @itsthekid9815
      @itsthekid9815 6 років тому +1

      No that's not a good reason to say he doesn't know the game. Everyone has bias of players. Some people won't put KG in the top 50 player s of all time which is ludicrous but every other player in the list is correct. I don't agree with Westbrook not being in the list but people have bias and having an understanding of that I get why he's 12th on his list. Someone could average 50 point 12 assist and 12 rebounds and be 7-0 in the finals but people will still say MJ is the goat.

    • @bile4420
      @bile4420 6 років тому

      Sub out Westbrook for Klay, move ben Simmons down to maybe 8 because he is a rookie and is slightly unproven. Is top 10 in the NBA tho if you can’t appreciate his game u don’t understand bball

  • @user-ct8pd1pw2n
    @user-ct8pd1pw2n 6 років тому +826

    Lmao Ben Simmons isn't even top 20 yet but he'll get up there

    • @fahnbullehjallah3990
      @fahnbullehjallah3990 6 років тому +18

      I Write A Song A Day he’s top 20 but he’s not supposed to be in the top 5

    • @TarvarisJenkins24
      @TarvarisJenkins24 6 років тому +30

      I Write A Song A Day Ben Simmons ain’t even the best player on his team lol

    • @austinthompson7394
      @austinthompson7394 6 років тому +15

      TarvarisJenkins24 steph curry not the best player on his team but he’s top 3. Stupid argument

    • @garrettsunderland3696
      @garrettsunderland3696 6 років тому +2

      Barely in top 20

    • @kenan-b
      @kenan-b 6 років тому

      TarvarisJenkins24 that's cause he has a top 12 player on his team

  • @bronsontehau722
    @bronsontehau722 5 років тому +35

    wtf ben simmons? lmao

  • @infinitegrowthwithro4006
    @infinitegrowthwithro4006 6 років тому +41

    Hold up Russell Westbrook ain't even on his top 10 such a hater.

  • @rlgreenleaf2112
    @rlgreenleaf2112 6 років тому +63

    Kenyon>Collin

  • @justinjones2706
    @justinjones2706 6 років тому +5

    I've never been more proud of Kenyon Martin for keeping it all they way 100. Kenyon's facts about 90's era verse 2000 era rules and playing style are on point.

  • @ArmandoKozomara
    @ArmandoKozomara 6 років тому +41

    Everybody on the list and a bunch of other players are better than Simmons.
    Kenyon is the realest guest Colin has had and this is probably his last appearance after owning Colin 😂 And where's Russ? Smh

  • @Penguins95268771
    @Penguins95268771 5 років тому +7

    I love this Kenyon guy. He says all my points. When people knock down players from the past I say the same things. Let them train today with the enhancements made in any sport. For, example look at football they would be 20 pounds heavier with solid muscle, If not more. Every sport athlete in every sport would be stronger, faster, and more durable.

  • @chachagotcontent7404
    @chachagotcontent7404 6 років тому +5

    6:18 Kenyon had that boy stuck! Lmao

  • @xXxALeXFuTexBaLxXx
    @xXxALeXFuTexBaLxXx 6 років тому +140

    GIANNIS CAN SHOOT MIDRANGE, SIMMONS CANT, SO HE IS A SHOOTER COMPARED TO SIMMONS CMON COLIN WHAT ARE YOU SAYING

    • @tgodmarley28
      @tgodmarley28 6 років тому +4

      alex marques Right and Giannis is a WAYYYY BETTER SHOOTER THAN BEN

    • @1010DoorsAreAlwaysOpen
      @1010DoorsAreAlwaysOpen 6 років тому +1

      He’s got better handles and also controls the tempo 🤔 he also rebounds better and carry’s his team

    • @obedrodriguez71
      @obedrodriguez71 6 років тому +1

      @@1010DoorsAreAlwaysOpen boi giannis also carries his team what are you trying to say and he's still a great rebounder you got me messed if you think Ben is better then giannis

  • @BoxingWave
    @BoxingWave 6 років тому +374

    LMFAOOO WTF BEN SIMMONS????

    • @vinukwickramasinghe4256
      @vinukwickramasinghe4256 6 років тому

      J Circ
      Ben Simmons can't even shoot. Sucks at free throws too...

    • @smbrisk
      @smbrisk 6 років тому +3

      J Circ I know you don't honestly think ben simmons is top 10 right now?

    • @Terence220
      @Terence220 6 років тому +3

      I like Ben Simmons, but he's not even the best Sixer.

    • @emmanuelpardo3875
      @emmanuelpardo3875 6 років тому

      J Circ ben simmons not even top 20, he will be top 5 in a couple of years but not right now

    • @carlywilliams8886
      @carlywilliams8886 6 років тому +1

      Kick Simmons to the curb Westbrook without a dought top 5 best in my book and basketball is my least favorite sport and I know Westbrook blow's been away thank you very much!

  • @DaTruthHurtzzzz
    @DaTruthHurtzzzz 6 років тому +56

    I love how nba players who actually played basketball defend Westbrook . But the media like Colin ,and the people in these comments have never touched a ball, are hating on Westbrook lmao .

    • @danielwilliams7685
      @danielwilliams7685 6 років тому +1

      DGGaming
      I mean I bet he's touched a ball before.

    • @ameensemia3717
      @ameensemia3717 6 років тому +1

      Daniel Williams he has, but not a basketball lol

    • @bendavid4596
      @bendavid4596 6 років тому

      Foreal! Ballers know wb is one of a kind great. Colin’s a hater

  • @wornoutshoes11
    @wornoutshoes11 6 років тому +89

    Collin is caught looking for answers lol... So weak... This guy dont deserve his job.

    • @jenjordan9526
      @jenjordan9526 4 роки тому +1

      Agree!!! This discounting MJ and basketball in the 90’s...Collin needs a different job

  • @zacharywoodward5167
    @zacharywoodward5167 5 років тому +3

    "On It" ...
    "What do you mean own it?"
    😂😂😂

  • @jarrettengel586
    @jarrettengel586 6 років тому +23

    Ben Simmons? Are you serious? Above THREE mvp front runners?

  • @Chitownsfinesthoops
    @Chitownsfinesthoops 6 років тому +77

    Kenyon killed Colin about the 90's, not to mention back then guys actually had a mid range and post game, that's completely gone from most players now. Style of play is the difference, everything is pick n roll and flow and 3's on today's game, less defense.

    • @sanantoballa4834
      @sanantoballa4834 6 років тому +6

      C B Taylor The "tough defense" on Mike is exaggerated a bit. Pistons beat him down in the late 80's but they did that to everyone.
      Teams like the Knicks kept hard fouls in the game but most teams didn't.
      They used hard fouls to compensate for lack of skill.
      The game is in a much better place now. Guys that can only foul hard, have no place in today's game.

    • @Chitownsfinesthoops
      @Chitownsfinesthoops 6 років тому +5

      SanAntoBalla Did you watch those games or just watching clips ?

    • @M3CC411Z
      @M3CC411Z 6 років тому +3

      C B Taylor probably just watching clips. Another kid born in the 2000's trying to make a case for this era. I've never seen a group of people try SO hard to convince everyone that something is better. If it is so great nowadays, why is there even a need for this argument? Also...if the 90s isn't the greatest era....why is it used as the measuring stick for what greatness is?

    • @TheRandumbGamer
      @TheRandumbGamer 6 років тому

      if only ben simmons had flow and 3s

  • @petonv8712
    @petonv8712 6 років тому +71

    "Giannis cant shoot!" has ben simmons ranked 5.

  • @bungchew3552
    @bungchew3552 5 років тому +8

    *Wow, this is the first time I've ever agreed with anything Kenyon Martin has said, especially after he got owned by Jeremy Lin... Come on now, at least replace Ben Simmons with Russell Westbrook, Cowherd! The more-and-more I hear Colin Cowherd talk about the NBA, the less-and-less I think he actually knows about basketball in general... Please take this show away from him! It's already bad enough that we have to listen to Skip Bayless too...*

  • @cjwrench07
    @cjwrench07 5 років тому +1

    Kenyon Martin needs to be a highlighted analyst on more of these shows more. He’s got a great players perspective, right along Broussard and his outside perspective.

  • @mikenelson7055
    @mikenelson7055 6 років тому +30

    says Klay Should be on the list cause "u gotta score" But yet has simmons is on the list and not westbrook SMH

    • @bjsw534
      @bjsw534 6 років тому +2

      Mike Nelson his arguments are never sound or consistent

  • @Zyke5
    @Zyke5 6 років тому +72

    In before Colin finds a way to bash Westbrook

    • @soonerintexas.3845
      @soonerintexas.3845 6 років тому +2

      Zyke gotta be quick for sure... Most of his shows lead with Russ bashing! Lol

  • @MsMrapplepie
    @MsMrapplepie 6 років тому +12

    Says Giannis can’t shoot a jump shot but he still put Simmons over him 🤦‍♂️

    • @bjsw534
      @bjsw534 6 років тому

      MsMrapplepie his logic is so off

  • @josephmorgan7872
    @josephmorgan7872 3 роки тому +1

    Kenyon challenging Colin is great. Too much media gets group think and don’t challenge each other’s prospective

  • @m.d1701
    @m.d1701 6 років тому +15

    Didn't know Kenyon was this articulate. Why isn't he doing a lot more commentary/analysis like this one. Really enjoyed his insights of the game of basketball.

  • @wuzi7049
    @wuzi7049 6 років тому +77

    having Ben Simmons on his top 10 just shows Colin's ignorance.

    • @erictolbert5769
      @erictolbert5769 6 років тому

      Wuzi Mu not even top 100 yet!

    • @Steve-uw3jp
      @Steve-uw3jp 6 років тому +4

      Yeah top 10 is ignorant but top 5 should get him fired and bring in Broussard to run this show

    • @wuzi7049
      @wuzi7049 6 років тому

      Shawn Kemp (1 Lebron (2 KD (tie3 Harden and curry (5 AD (tie6-8 kyrie and kawhi and CP3 (9 westbrook (10tie between antetokounmpo klay wall and PG
      there are basically 3 tiers
      top: who are all fighting to be known as the best 1
      2nd: those guys that are fighting to be recognized as one of the guys fighting to be the best or are greats with a shortcoming.
      3rd: the ones that could be greats but are either not there yet or something happened
      then there's everyone else

    • @Wolf-fz8be
      @Wolf-fz8be 6 років тому

      Shawn Kemp wtf man lol, ben simmons aint even top 25 yet lol

  • @Panamaschild
    @Panamaschild 6 років тому +58

    Colin scramblin' like 2 eggs on Sunday mornin

    • @humphreybeaux
      @humphreybeaux 6 років тому

      Wisest Owl
      You are ruining scrambled eggs on Sunday morning for me and it's the only time the wife ever cooks any more.

  • @steve-o1012
    @steve-o1012 6 років тому +8

    Kenyon spot on about Colin’s hatred towards Westbrook

  • @TDB18
    @TDB18 6 років тому +7

    6:18 Colin went quiet cause he knows he’s wrong xD

  • @anactualopinion868
    @anactualopinion868 6 років тому +13

    y'all young bucks gotta understand..Kmart played with Jayson Kidd so when he say..
    "I couldent have played with harden"..or..."id play with russ... cause he gives 100%" basically what that means is they ain't real point guards....

    • @daevonthesavage7483
      @daevonthesavage7483 5 років тому

      *Jason Kidd. There's no "y".

    • @jorgeanta2912
      @jorgeanta2912 5 років тому +1

      An Actual Opinion no duh everybody knows that the Pgs of today aren’t really true pgs closest to them is wall Rubio and Paul rondo as well

  • @victorkaizug2430
    @victorkaizug2430 6 років тому +32

    1.Lebron
    2.Durant
    3.Curry
    4.Harden
    5.Davis
    6.Leonard
    7.Westbrook
    8.Giannis
    9.Cousins
    10.Irving

    • @TexasTeeVee
      @TexasTeeVee 6 років тому

      Victor Kaizug 💯👏🏽

    • @FilipCordas
      @FilipCordas 6 років тому +1

      Remove Westbrook and put Wall or DeRozan or Lillard or KAT or ten other guys. That man is a black hole that destroys all stars that puts empty stats.

    • @danielburkhardt721
      @danielburkhardt721 6 років тому

      accurate

    • @Medversitario
      @Medversitario 6 років тому +2

      Kawhi better than everyone but lebron

    • @MsMrapplepie
      @MsMrapplepie 6 років тому +2

      Kawhi would’ve been higher if he didn’t miss this year. I just want to see my boy take his spot back with the elites again.

  • @david24lakeshow
    @david24lakeshow 6 років тому +20

    Kenyon schooling Colin lmao

  • @Patawon
    @Patawon 6 років тому +77

    I agree with everything Kenyon said except that you can’t put D Rose in the same sentence as Russ... Prime D Rose was otherworldly... he just couldn’t stay healthy long enough to create a lasting legacy but talent wise he’s on par with Russ.... FACTS!!!

    • @mikefive1098
      @mikefive1098 6 років тому +3

      Jamal Wallace thank you sir. Rose would have been a killer. Watched every game of his. He was spectacular to watch. That dunk he had on Phoenix. Nasty!

    • @gladiator8798
      @gladiator8798 6 років тому +3

      the reason d rose couldn't stay healthy was because of his playstyle and his landings

    • @ericpowell8130
      @ericpowell8130 6 років тому +7

      Facts 💯 When d Rose was healthy and in his prime, nobody could stay in front of him, and he started to develop his 3 point and mid range game, he was basically unguardable!! And he was a humble, willing, passer as well(unlike Westbrook). Check the footage in case you forgot!!! #englewoodalumni

    • @andersonstevie904
      @andersonstevie904 6 років тому

      Jamal Wallace I agree. I was wondering why that lack of respect. Rose was a beast and deserved the MVP.

    • @ryansteiner8858
      @ryansteiner8858 6 років тому

      Bro he wasn’t that good u can chill out

  • @brianrodriguez4137
    @brianrodriguez4137 5 років тому +4

    "But I didn't ask you that" 😂

  • @i.AmHymn
    @i.AmHymn 5 років тому +12

    How do you shut this highly-paid late 80s-90s basketball TROLL up? WITH FACTS (including the intangibles he's allergic to)! 💡
    Way to go, K-Mart! 🤜🏿🤛🏿
    Hymn

  • @notsure1285
    @notsure1285 6 років тому +14

    Defending simmons over Giannis on the basis that Giannis can't shoot is the definition of being hypocritical.

  • @thetruth-gy2lc
    @thetruth-gy2lc 6 років тому +25

    K-Mart schooled him

  • @wali5912
    @wali5912 6 років тому +55

    Sorry, Ben Simmons? Colin just trying to ride him so when he does become great he can say that he saw that from the start

  • @mikf2500
    @mikf2500 5 років тому +2

    Kmart is a better analyst than he was a player. I completely agree the game was harder in the Jordan/Magic era.
    My 2018-19 top 10 Gianis, Lebron, Anthony Davis, KD, Leonard, Harden, Steph, Kyrie, Embid, Jokic

  • @moislam1983
    @moislam1983 6 років тому +1

    “On it!!”
    “What do you mean own it?” 😂

  • @rollanother1
    @rollanother1 6 років тому +37

    If westbrook is Flawed then what is Ben "No Jump Shot" Simmons. That's flawed.

  • @heroball8444
    @heroball8444 6 років тому +25

    Player A:
    15, 8, 8,
    4th seed in the east
    Plays alongside 1 all star
    Player B:
    25, 10, 10
    4th seed in west
    Plays alongside 1 all star
    Player A=Been Simmons
    Player B=Russel Westbrook
    Wtf Colin

    • @aubm713
      @aubm713 6 років тому +1

      Phil Hudson I don’t like Ben Simmons by any means but stuff like percentage
      Plus minus etc DJ matter

    • @aubm713
      @aubm713 6 років тому

      Do matter*

    • @KiidStacksx
      @KiidStacksx 6 років тому +3

      Westbrook is better than Simmons but He does be stat padding

    • @heroball8444
      @heroball8444 6 років тому

      Moe Leezy true true but ya still gotta give the guy credit for his ability to do that

  • @THEMANCURTIS
    @THEMANCURTIS 6 років тому +36

    Russ must of stole his ex wife

  • @nawty3726
    @nawty3726 6 років тому +10

    Lbj.
    K.d.
    A.d
    Giannis.
    Steph.
    Harden.
    Westbrook.
    Leanord.
    Kyrie
    Embiid.
    Ben Simmons? Lol

  • @paulcruz2796
    @paulcruz2796 6 років тому +1

    "WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S EASY NOW??!!!" lmfao

  • @A1KX100
    @A1KX100 6 років тому +47

    Westbrook over Simmons at 5 and Boogie Cousins over Klay at 10.

    • @MM-pu7yr
      @MM-pu7yr 6 років тому +1

      FvckWitDreDay Over Klay...u sound silly All team offensive and defensive 3 straight years ...🤣🤣

  • @leatherneck1061
    @leatherneck1061 6 років тому +16

    Colin got owned here. As for his hate of Russell Westbrook, it seems he just hates all things Oklahoma - just look at how much he berated Baker Mayfield when half the teams in the NFL wanted him.

    • @micsz.109
      @micsz.109 6 років тому

      something just happened to him in Oklahoma.. maybe a creep molested him

  • @comsci2491
    @comsci2491 6 років тому +22

    Love what Kenyon said about hand checking. It's so much harder to score before than now. Big learned to shoot better because theres's not much resistance anymore. Imagine if you hand check big guys 15 to 20 feet away from the basket now and see if they can even make a good shot being out of balanced and out of rhythm and not on the spot that you wanna be in.

    • @roderickl9539
      @roderickl9539 Рік тому

      If Lebron played back in the days, the NBA men will really give Lebron a reason to flop!

  • @erikpuka2627
    @erikpuka2627 6 років тому +12

    Embiid is much better than Klay and Ben Simmons.

  • @ShadowWizard224
    @ShadowWizard224 Рік тому +1

    “If you tore your ACL back then your career was over” 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

  • @maribatcric
    @maribatcric 6 років тому +21

    Westbrook to this show is what Lebron is to Undisputed...smh

    • @JG-xt6eu
      @JG-xt6eu 6 років тому

      maribatcric
      Thts gospel right there!

    • @BaDHabitS4
      @BaDHabitS4 6 років тому +2

      maribatcric nah in Undisputed they have the decency to put one lebron lover and one lebron heater to keep the balance.this one is a anti RW monologue)
      i don't like RW but i hate it when people on national tv hate athletes so openly.

  • @xabierruiz5611
    @xabierruiz5611 6 років тому +56

    i’m sorry but d rose carried a 62 win team in his mvp season, its unbelievable how much people discredit him after all his injuries. i would totally put him ahead of westbrook (not by much), mainly bc he actually gets WINS

    • @vincentbriggs0682
      @vincentbriggs0682 6 років тому +8

      Xabi FR he didn't carry BULLS. They had Noah, Deng and Butler and the Bulls never won anything with Rose. #BullsFan

    • @humphreybeaux
      @humphreybeaux 6 років тому +8

      Vincent
      Noah couldn't make a jump shot to save his life and often was replaced by Asik in the fourth quarter. Butler was nowhere near the all star player then that he is now. Deng was a very good player but not an elite player.
      The Bulls never won anything with Rose because he never had the supporting cast. I'm sure you remember that LeBron left Cleveland so he could play with Wade and Bosh.

    • @TheJumpman319
      @TheJumpman319 6 років тому +1

      Ed Reuteler “never had a supporting cast” how many times did the bulls miss the playoffs when rose was injured?

    • @arenbabachanian4809
      @arenbabachanian4809 6 років тому +3

      Ed Reuteler Deng was all star level, A fantastic defender who relived so much pressure on D Rose because he guarded the best player each and every night.

    • @alanhanna7562
      @alanhanna7562 6 років тому +4

      noah used to be in the voting for mvp when he was a dominant defensive player. I swear no one has ever watched basketball. He was actually really good back then.

  • @tonyshlean
    @tonyshlean 6 років тому +5

    That Ben Simmons argument went bad fast lol

  • @jreal3254
    @jreal3254 6 років тому

    Martin 100% true The wisdom from players open eyes

  • @lexlieanimas1671
    @lexlieanimas1671 5 років тому +1

    this video proves that players are more knowledgeable on the game of basketball than basketball analyst reporters and the likes

  • @_THETRIPODCAST
    @_THETRIPODCAST 6 років тому +12

    Yeah Russ is better than D.Rose now....Why did they make it seem like D.Rose wasn't better than Russ back then.

    • @jorgeanta2912
      @jorgeanta2912 6 років тому

      Well in rose mvp season their stats were awfully close as well as advance stats as well Russ that year was all nba second team

  • @justtraining4702
    @justtraining4702 6 років тому +6

    IF Rose had NEVER gotten hurt......he would've been on this list.

  • @khoado123
    @khoado123 6 років тому +7

    Kenyon is killing Collins here lol

  • @вернат
    @вернат 3 місяці тому

    This was great, Kenyon should be on this type of show more often