The Titan Sub - Is the Risk Worth It?
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2023
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UPDATE June 22: It was just announced the whole crew was lost due to a catastrophic event. RIP to those 5 and condolences to their families.
Let's talk about the submersible that's gone missing. It brings up the question once again of whether adventure is worth the risk. Is it ever worth it? Where do we draw the line?
I'll give a bit of a background on the developing story and discuss risk and how it factors into adventuring, exploring and advancing technology.
Feel free to comment your thoughts below. All I ask is that you keep comments respectful. These people have friends and families who love them and who are going through something unimaginable right now.
I'm hoping the rescuers located the missing crew quickly and that they are found alive.
#TitanSubmersive #MissingSub #oceangate
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As soon as someone told me I would be bolted in from outside, I would be gone.
That is yet another terrifying thing in this whole scenario!
Yup 👏 seems legit, seems safe 👀
It was just announced at 3:00 pm ET on June 22 that the whole crew was lost due to a catastrophic implosion. RIP to the 5 crew members and condolences to their families.
I extend my condolences to all 5 families. I can only imagine the grief and worry they have experienced since the sub went missing.
I appreciate the condolences to the deceased, but I don't agree with calling the passengers crew members. From what I understand the reason the passengers paperwork called them "mission specialists" was to try to protect the company from legal liability in the event that something like this happened since it's not legal for an experimental vessel like this to carry passengers. Passengers pay for someone to take them somewhere and crew members are paid for their service. These poor people paid to be taken to see Titanic and put their trust in this company and I think that trust was betrayed. I did only get this information from the legal eagle youtube channel though, so maybe I'm mistaken.
I served on board a U.S. sub during the Vietnam War. We patrolled the Pacific off East Asia.
When I first heard of the Titan accident, I knew they were dead. Between the time of loss of communication, and the discovery of wreckage, I knew it was all a dog and pony show.
Even at the relatively shallow dives we made, the sea is absolutely unforgiving.
The sea makes space travel look like a cake walk by comparison.
You always put more research in than a lot of other channels, and you don't drag it out longer than needed. Hard to believe I wasn't already subscribed.
Thanks, it's a fine balance covering enough and hopefully sharing some new info with people. But I appreciate your comment, this took me like 9 hours today lol.
@adventuresgonewrong Yes! Your story telling style is excellent.
The people that were close to the creation of this nightmare knew that the implosion took place within the first hours of decent.
I am a professional designer of electronics for safety critical applications. The game controller is a bad idea because consumer electronics like this are not designed to be fail-safe. In the event of a fault the controls could jam in an unsafe condition, endangering the craft and leading to loss of control. The "game controllers" used by the navy look similar but will be designed to completely different standards of reliability and fail-safe requirements.
Your channel deserves much more views and subscribers. Every story is definitely worth watching. You're doing a great job. Thank you!
Thanks so much! I'm enjoying the process and happy some people are tuning in haha.
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Thanks for your content don’t give up on making the videos I think you’re one of the better ones out there in this category of content
I appreciate that! And I’m not quitting, just getting started.
Oceangate has a UA-cam channel and they just scrubbed the more recent videos of hero movie like sales pitches. They were pretty impressive and very well done. If i wasn't so afraid of water , i might have fallen for it . This leads me to wonder if the now dead customers didn't get caught up in this dream adventure.
I saw one of those and thought the same thing! It looked totally enticing. I think you make a solid point about those on board and I wonder if Stockton was just a really good salesman in all of this. The people involved with it and former passengers seem to LOVE him and the company. Almost cult-like in a way.
@@adventuresgonewrong yes, I remember some saying they were all like family. I know the passengers signed away the risks, but they trusted in the man and company. When we sign papers before surgery, we kinda understand, but I think we trust our Dr more than our fears. It still doesn't absolve them if negligence happens. This is the only comparison I can think of to put myself in their shoes. The whole thing is just sad.
"Mission Specialist" kinda like a "domestic engineer" but 12,000 feet under water.
I agree 100% to me the risk is just too high!!! When your very life is at stake. Thank you for your channel, excellent coverage 👍
It's true but so many things have risks. I wonder if the 19 year old knew just how risky this was though.
@@adventuresgonewrong I know it breaks my heart ❤️
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Woohoo!! Thank you for heeding our call and listening to our feedback!! Thanks for making my workday more manageable with your amazing narration skillz🤗
Thx for letting me know what you want to see! Love the feedback.
It's strange that rich people who are willing to risk their lives as a form of entertainment are looked up to in our society (and thousands of dollars is spent trying to find them), but boat loads of migrants who risk their lives in order to build a better life are seen as criminals.
I mean if you’re entering a country illegally you’re a criminal…
We've all been manipulated to believe that people get what they deserve, good or bad. The truth is that life is luck.
Stacie, you did your research for this video! Thanks for so much awesome footage and all the photos! This whole situation was just tragic, I feel so sorry for all parties involved, especially that poor teenager. I was hoping so much for a happy ending for the families. 💙
Wow! Excellent video. Thank you for taking the time to put all of the information in one place. Anywhere else I’ve looked it’s just bits and pieces of info.
Looking forward to your update!
Woohoo thx for watching!
When I saw you were covering this, I knew you would give us everything we need to know without any fanfare or personal commentary. Love your channel. I look forward to all your videos. Thanks for covering this.
Thanks Bonnie! I try to show all sides of these things.
Couple of hikers get lost on a mountain and people say they are foolish and putting others at risk.
Billionaires play silly games like thia and th whole world rushes to try to save them when we already know they are dead. Make iit make sense.
This is so so true. Look at the negative comments people get who are lost or in trouble on Everest or K2 !
The fact that Stockton Rush took 250,000 dollars to take a 19 year old child down there says it all about his sociopathic personality. Same goes for the poor boys mentally Ill father.
The more that comes out about him, the more sketchy he sounds. Snake Oil salesman is what it's sounding like. Is that why PH trusted him and his design?
The owner going down there you would think he's put a lot of effort into safety
And all those people’s lives in his hands. The more that comes out it seems the more reckless he was.
Yeah I m not putting stock into that guys best thinking.
I think he thought of himself as a bit of a swashbuckler. RIP captain.
Seems like putting your life in the hands of billionaires is a bad move... Shame that cutting corners had to result in this horrible way
Dang on shame because he lied is way into getting those people in it .😢
thank you for the quick work of this! i thought i was following closely but you had new info for me. i hope they are recovered… just so horrifying to imagine.
There’s so much coming out, it’s impossible to see it all! Glad I could share some new stuff. Now we’re just waiting on the 2 new ships to get to the location, looks like they’re almost there.
The worst possible application of carbon fiber. It's designed to be under tension / expansion, definitely not compression - like the sub.
Hard to fathom [no pun intended] that stockton rush did not comprehend this, yet I can understand it as a layperson.
Great video, you did your homework TY!
I’m obsessed with this!
Wow, very informative video. Thanks.
Thankyou... I really enjoyed your observations & updates on this "adventure gone wrong."
My thought about the last adventurer's comment .. yes that's true. Risk is involved. However, when there is documentation that safety is ignored then risk becomes foolhardiness.
A person in a canoe with a small slow leak or hole above waterline may risk crossing a small lake. But that person might not choose to go down a river with rapids because the risk is too high.
Great point. There are definitely different levels of risk and this one is the ultimate, can’t get much higher. And now that so much more is coming out about the lack of safety protocols, it just adds to that risk factor. And I wonder if any of these folks knew how many safety corners were cut.
Thank you for covering this! I'm so glad I found your channel!
Glad you enjoyed it!
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Thank you for the post, I was hoping you would do a post on this with your insights.... despite all the safety prep, the unexpected can still happen.
It was announced that the Military Listening devices heard the implosion. The Carbon Fiber hull probably shattered and imploded.
Yeah so much more is coming out now, hoping to do a follow up video on what's come out recently. James Cameron said it was heard on Sunday and he questioned why the massive search even happened when they pretty much knew what happened.
You do an amazing job telling these stories. Thank you
Another reason to never go all electric.
@duckling08 Sir what would you use instead of it?
I have a mechanic friend who still buys vehicles with roll up windows and non-electric locks. He hates electrical systems because they fail and are harder to fix.
@@adventuresgonewrong good point!
@@adventuresgonewrongI totally agree. Why make things unecessarily complex and hard to fix.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem the crew survived. Condolences to the families 😢 Hope they find out what happened.
Great presentation Stacy! The work you put into the research really shows! Looking forward to your follow up video.
Thanks! Waiting for a bit more info to come out and then I’ll post another video.
Thank you from Seattle! I was trying to go on this mission!
I started too late on fund raising. ❤
Cannot open from inside...don't have inflatable going up to give an approximate location when coming to the surface of attached to the sub....my gosh so much money and so little brain...
Any dummy can grasp that this was a horrible application of carbon fiber.
It's used for items under tension / expansion, like helicopter rotors & scuba tanks.
A sub is under opposite forces, where compression destroys the longitudinal integrity of the fiber. Hence, an implosion of cf is far more likely than an 'explosion' of cf vessel - such as a scuba tank - and even those have cyclic lifespans.
Yes, you got all news at the moment. I just thought a game controller is great, if you have a spare, but the system to connect to could freeze, and you can only reset. I thought, why don’t they agreed to a morse code ahead, that would be easiest and a 5 year old could had that idea. Also how about a mechanical hull knocking device, if that is how they communicate, a simple hammer on a steel part embedded in the hull.
They got what they were after, a pure unique and fresh adventure
I had the same thought. They should have had sonar from the ship watching them and agreed-to morse code communication in case of emergency.
I just subscribed and have been binge-watching your videos. You showed up in my feed and I love your channel.
Thanks for the support!
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I really enjoy your channel. You are an excellent storyteller. Always very respectful to your subjects. I’m a new subscriber.
Welcome aboard!
I’m claustrophobic! I would have never have even entered the vessel!
You mean to say they have not an exact coordinates of the titanic wreak
Or a safety line attached to the sub.....
No, they have to rely on the ship on the surface to guide them to the Titanic. And no safety line at all.
It's funny hearing the claims from the company about training the passengers.
It's clear they didn't.
Good coverage. I'm thinking, Couldn't it have been tethered throughout the dive? At least then they'd know where it was. But I know nothing about deep sea exploration. Tragic.
Just found your channel & love it!
Welcome!!
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Oh wow 😢
Terrifying eh? I’ll be looking for updates all night.
@@adventuresgonewrong Absolutely please keep updated sad .smh
See Icarus.
I think this question of risk and how much is too much is a central theme of your channel and I think it’s a good. Each story is a meditation on “was this too much?“ I think often elite athletes who take risks like jumping off mountains all the time might just die that way for various reasons no matter if it’s their fault or an occupational hazard. It’s almost inevitable they’re gonna die that way and they almost accept it, Not that they don’t do many many things to mitigate that risk. And sometimes people do make questionable decisions and that makes for interesting drama on a channel and it also informs my life, because I learn their lesson without having to pay for it, which is essentially if you’re not absolutely ready for it and taking every single precaution you shouldn’t be “out there” on an adventure.
A bit off topic, but I just read an article about rescue teams and resources wearing thin in the West because people are less likely to carefully plan because they've come to expect rescue and don't plan for contingencies, learn skills or self sufficiency.
Wow that's crazy and reckless if that's how people feel, yikes!
I can't believe it's already been a year since the disaster
Crazy eh!?!
Bolt me into a pipe, no thanks, I'm out. I'm sorry to hear they were all lost.
That submarine was a piece of crap.
Cant they launch the flaoting ballons. Could a giant magnet pull them up.
It sounds like they’re relying on that cable to bring it up via crane but I just read that someone said the pressure at those depths will make it impossible to bring to the surface without destroying the submersible.
There's no longer a need to wonder. Don't forget,that if possible, any pieces they find that apply to the titan, will help them answer what went wrong, if that's even possible to explain.
True, sounds like they're there to recover as much as they can and gain some info on what happened.
Hopefully everyone on the Titan is found soon and safe.
I'm afraid that we would be magical if even ANY type of recovered biological materials could be assigned to any one individual. They would be essentially vaporized.
Yeeeeahhh.........no.
Wow🎉😮
At least no one felt a thing when it imploded.
How do we know?
@teachersusan3730 the implosion happened so quickly that none of the passengers would have seen or felt anything, however they would have heard the ominous sounds of the hull failure before they tried to surface, and they likely knew they would die soon.
Sadly pieces of the sub was found sadly highly probable that they didn’t survive unfortunately .
Wellllll this didn’t end in a great way 😮
6:06 Grave robbery.
carbon fibre...strong...but just about the worst compression strength...no engineer would use carbon in a sub
O think that this has caused a need for serious international eater rules need to be made, and extreme punishment for any type of use of equipment not fully inspected and approved by a certain international panel of recent experts regarding any aspect of any submersible object. Enforcement needs to be extremely vigilant, and if you want to make submersible equipment, you must be supervised by a governmental type body, for manufacturing such equipment. Every aspect of the technical equipment must be testable.
Underwater
It's crazy they refused the certification that every other company willingly has done.
I also think that before any type of excursions are planned, that all the qualifications of the crew are properly substantiated. A control depth certificate, eg: 1000 m. certificate, and more sensible guidance by the body regulating such certificate issuance. Personal mental health evaluations, and technical skills testing.
It's easy enough to just know how to use a PlayStation joystick. A realization of exactly what is happening when each action us administered. Reminds me of basic individuals working as doctors in a hospital, or medical personnel, because they read physicians monthly magazine, or watching seasons of General Hospital. Using medical jargon to impress others, only knowing that it is something related to the situation at hand.
being bolted and experimental carbon fiber... NO
Using
No.
No , not worth it. Wouldn't go in a sub for a million bucks
What tends to happen when you are promoting a vessel, to get the money you spend back, it's not a good business.
We just need to learn what happened, and use the information to save other people's lives. Obviously this didn't work. A weakness occurred somewhere, and hopefully it will be discovered. Money can't just get you everything you want, there's enormous things to surmount, and if you don't see that, then the odds are against you.
Of course its not worth it. Simple quietsion simple answer. To morbidly gravesite thrill by risking a horrible death or awful underwater donner situation ? Obvs. Thank God they ve imploded , it was merciful.
Well at least a few of those on board thought it was worth it. They knew the risk of dying on board.
nope - not even a little bit - with the worlds tax code another lazy sperm lottery winner will step right up as our next "selfmade" billionaire
I wonder if this stunt is for media coverage....a free worldwide advertising campaign.... Yes it is cinycal to think this way but I am weary.....