its awesome to see someone cover this card. ive been playing around with two of these for a while and turned me on to a deep rabbit hole of weird cards I’d never heard of before
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 i didnt see any support in amds software for crossfire with two of them in a system at the same time, but i also dont have many motherboards that support crossfire so i dunno if a newer board would make it work either.
@@DigitalJedi On PCIe 4 or PCIe 3? Because on PCIe 3 they will be massively hampered by only having 4 lanes. On the 6500 that can make a difference between 5% and 45% depending on the game.
Just one of a plethora of reasons I love your vids. These rare, unheard of and legendary cards, getting all this attention, plus watching them in action. I swear, I could go back right now and watch all your vids like this from the past! Love it, keep them coming!
@@chuckwow3302 im talking about MSI FM2- A75IA-E53,only fm2 mini itx motherboard known to mankind,as i know there is only one in the whole of my country that is on sell
I picked one of these up during the height of the shortage for around $65 (when the RX 550 was $100+). It found its way into a cheap Optiplex and was pretty reasonable.
Picked one of those up for $40 a couple of months ago for a Dell PC. It was performing really poorly until I increased the power limit. Not fast, but at the price I paid and the lack of better options in the range I'm pretty satisfied. Those ~2017 AMD reference coolers were so aesthetically pleasing, even if they weren't quite as good as the needed to be.
The fun fact is, You can push the power limit of this GPU to 29W (it's locked to 17W) and gain something around 30% of performance. With 100mV of undervolting, you can drop it to 23-25W. I'm also thinking of modding the VBIOS of this card, to push it even further. This card has some unleashed potential and cooler in this card is suprisingly capable of doing that.
Getting it to 29w is pretty simple to do in Linux using CoreCtrl. the card is a bit of a beast for how cheap they can be found for. I am using the low latency Linux kernel 5.16.11 with the built in amdgpu driver.
I have one of those. Bought at the same time I bought a WX 2100 and after comparing their bioses, the only difference between E9173 and WX 2100 is the power limit (17W x 25W). If you edit E9173's bios, you can increase it from 17W to 25W. Yeah, the GPU gets a little hotter, but it will perform a lot better. Give it a test if you are curious. My card is running with 25W for more than a year now.
@@judasthepious1499ebay. At the time there was 2 listings of it and I found one that was less than $60. For nowadays standards, that's too much, but this was 2021.
I ended up getting a half height RX 6400 recently for that dual xeon workstation I told you about, and it runs surprisingly well for what it is. Turns out I couldn't actually fit a 1080 ti without modifying the case, which was a major buzz kill.
I opted for an rx 6400 for a Xeon workstation for the same reason. Sure some slight performance is left on the table with pcie 3 but it hits 1080p medium fine for the games I play, even runs Hogwarts legacy just fine
I put my half height RX 6400 into an SFF Dell Optiplex. PCIe3 bottleneck and all (Haswell). For as bad as the press @#$%'d onto the little card, it really is the best option for stuffing into tight places. It plays everything I've thrown at it for 1080p60 easy.
Well i have a Power Color Fighter RX 6600 and this thing only hits 170 Watts max while my CPU is a Ryzen 5 4500, for the PSU i went a bit overkill with my Seasonic Focus GX-850 Watts, my system doesn't consume as much anyway.
I have one of these! I bought it during the gpu shortage over covid because all the low profile cards were going for so much! I use it in very small 60w pc and it's a perfect match. I also have the next one in the series e9260 (baffin) which I got around the same time and they CAN be overclocked with polaris bios editor. Would love to see you check out the overclocking on it.
This, the wx2100 and the Radeon 550 (non RX), which are all essentially the same card, are the perfect minimum GPU for systems without integrated graphics. They have current drivers, h.265 hardware support and directX 12 compatibility. I ended up pairing some of these with 12100F chips for basic home systems back when the 12100 with iGPU was hard to find, and have no complaints. Still have 2 wx2100 cards sitting around in their nice blue shrouds.
it's a Radeon equivalent of the RX 540, which is quite a bit slower. It would be like nvidias GT 1010 (which does exist, but only for OEMs) or a DDR4 GT 1030 The closest to a GDDR5 GT 1030 would be to step up to the RX 550 or E9174. So close and yet...
I literally saw this GPU 3 weeks ago when I was planning on upgrading a prebuilt HP pc, settled for a Pro WX4100 since it offers better performance/specs for the same price at the time.
You must gotten same itch I had couple weeks back. I picked up a WX 4100 after hunting for entirely to long for something low profile that was affordable; sadly in the US they went from ~$50 upto $100 shortly after. Should land somewhere between the RX460 and RX560 (I think, don't quote me). My only complaint is the fan gets a bit noisy. I'm going to try cleaning and adding more lubrication. If that doesn't work I might pick one of these up to salvage the fan from and give the E9173 the old one. Thanks for sharing this rare find.
I've actually jury-rigged a 40mm fan as a case fan in a low profile machine, blowing air out the empty card slot spaces, for this reason (different card, but same issue). Some of these low profile cards have cooling that doesn't work well in a poorly ventilated case, which many low profile cases are. A fact amply illustrated by the fact that the 40mm fan moved more air than either of the fans that came in the system, even though they were larger.
Also check out the T400. It's a more capable card and supports HDR which was why I got it for the family room HTPC.. I paid $90 for on a few months back.... But the going rate seems to be in the $150 range....
Great video. It might be helpful in the video (or in the description) to provide the silicon code name, the # of compute units, and TDP. E9173 is a "Lexa" GPU with 512 CU's and is essentially a "Pro" embedded RX 550 with 2GB GDDR5 running at 35w. I know a subset of your viewers would appreciate that detail!
Wikipedias article on the list of Radeon cards describes it as Polaris 21, and in specs the same as a RX 540 but with halved memory bus. And the RX 540, RX 550, Radeon Pro WX 2100, WX 3100, Radeon E9173 and E9174 are all pretty much the same card with minor details.
Good find. This in a low profile optiplex would make you good budget minecraft rig. I've been looking for a cheap card to build multiple cheap pcs for Lan minecraft sessions.
Had one a few years ago (bought for $48 then) and it was good for emulation and lower end games. Cool for low profile builds, emu machines, plex servers, etc.
INTERESTING card. Looks like the E9173 might perform ever so slightly better than a GT 1030. (Yeah, the GT 1030 can do it for you too if you don't mind running 720p.) There are considerably less impressive low profile options. So cool find!
running a 1030 currently, honestly runs some games well at 1080 low, ive had a few games i cant play but its really solid for competitive games like csgo or valorant
this card would run worse than a gt 1030 and rx 550, I have both of those cards and rx 550 outperforms it and the card he has up here uses the same chip as the rx 550 but its only running on a 64 bit bus compared to the rx 550's 128bit bus it only has like half the memory bandwidth. all the other specs are the same but its basically a heavily gimped rx 550
@@parasiticpupp3t in what 720p all low? the only thing I use the rx 550 for is simple emulation on a computer hooked up to my tv , the rx 580 is roughly 5x as fast as an rx 550 and i felt like my rx580 was getting old and replaced it with an rx 6600 which is 2.5x as fast as my old 580
@@kyles8524 Cool clarification. The GT 1030 is what I pretty much consider rock bottom for what's acceptable, for me. If something isn't as good as that, I might call it INTERESTING and pass it by! Very glad that others tried it out so I don't have to. :)
I bought one of these cards recently. Only paid $30. I put it in a Haswell Dell pre-built I'm using as my Linux web browsing/email/office machine to drive my 2 4k monitors as it was intended.
Does the card support hevc encode/decode? It would be an interesting card for a home server where one might occasionally use a powerful CPU for compiling and sometimes stream media
@@SeeJayPlayGames A cut down RX 540, which, tbff, is pretty much the same GPU anyway. There is a whole set of 3 desktop, one mobile, 2 workstation, 2 mobile workstation and 3 embedded cards, all the with the same specs.
Would be good to pair with an AM2 or 775 rig for playing older DX8/9-era games on, especially if it's an SFF system with either a proprietary-mount PSU (BTX-era HP SFF office machines come to mind there, standard ATX pinout, but proprietary case mount) or a fully proprietary PSU at the pinout as well, and this embedded Polaris card will slaughter whatever those older systems would've shipped with for a dGPU, eg. my dc5750 SFF box would've shipped with an X1300 Pro for a dGPU and it has an X1150 chipset for onboard graphics, and as far as Passmark is concerned, it's a slaughter against that X1300 Pro in favor of the E9173.
Got this for £20 thanks to this video. Was eying the WX 2100 but decided to do a ebay search for this card and it was cheaper. The CPU I paired it with a E3-1265L v3 what is overkill but wanted a fairly decent low power system on the cheap. The CPU is only 45W TDP. System HP ProDesk 600 G1. May upgrade to the WX 4100 later on down the line.
I’ve got two of these as well! One for my collection of oddball parts, the other to put into a ITX desktop where the old dGPU had an outdated selection of ports and driver support had ended, and the iGPU has a totally broken DX12 implementation that Intel has said they’re never gonna fix. Got it for a relative deal mid scalpocalypse because no one really seems to know what it is, other than not a gaming card. Overpaid on a price/performance basis, but was still less than the Radeon Pro version of the card or a GT1030 DDR4 were at the time. And from the perspective of getting something with a modern (mostly) architecture in a compact form factor I can use anywhere, I’m digging it. Thinking about replacing that old ITX system with a cheap surplus Xeon E5 system, and probably gonna reuse the card there next. One interesting thing I noticed: Under that shroud there’s actually a nice array of dense fins atop a copper slug instead of the cheap aluminum extrusion I’ve seen on unshrouded half-height, low-profile Radeon cards for OEM systems.
I came across this weird beast in a job lot we purchased. I am going to dig it out and see if i can make a micro retro system with it if it powers up. I couldnt find any information on it other than it being a micro card and a few on ebay with no backstory. Thank you for this
I have the WX2100. On paper seems to be identical specs, and is a decent upgrade for Dell Optiplexes. There’s also the WX3100 if you need the extra VRAM/memory bus
There's the WX4100 as well, which is the strongest of them all in that same footprint with an extra display output (4 miniDP instead of 2 miniDP and a regular DP). Managed to nab 1 for US$100 (with an adapter).
In terms of specs, the WX 3100, E9147 and RX 5500 are pretty much identical (but the RX 550 has slightly higher memory clocks). The WX 2100, E9173 and RX 5400 are cut down versions with halved memory bus. There are slightly different clocks, but GPU performance is within 5% of each other.
I have an E6760, which is based on the Turks GPU used in the HD 6500 and 6600 series. It's useless for gaming, but still handy for testing other components since it doesn't require external power. It can also display 4K at 30 Hz through Mini DP.
I have one of those too... and you know what's really lame? The GPU itself is capable of driving four DisplayPort 1.2 ports and two DisplayPort 1.1 ports... and the genius board manufacturer wired up only the two BAD ones. Now it's sitting in a box, I probably really should just e-waste it.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Sadly, no, because it can't use standard drivers, so many games don't recognize it and refuse to start, or run extremely slowly as if using software rendering. I also tried flashing it to HD 6570 and 6670, but both no display. Its GPU and VRAM chips are on the same "module" (like HBM). I guess that's why consumer BIOSs wouldn't work - different memory models.
I've been thinking for a while that it would be really cool if we had mini graphics solutions kinda like this. Stuff that would work with Raspberry Pi-like pcs. Would be cool to put something like a desktop-tier iGPU onto
Whenever I'm working in an SFF PC I try and find a Quadro P600, good performance for a good price, no extra power requirements and completely single slot like this one. :)
I have a radeon r7 240 2gb ddr5 with a xeon e3 1271 v3 and they run most titles decently even the water at night on gta 5 looks good im upgrading to the 4 gb version to push my cpu a bit more it runs fairly low now.. thanks for the video ejoyed😁
This looks a lot like my single slot RX 550. Exact same Display port + two mini display port layout. But my RX 550 runs about 1200mhz on clock and gets very hot, think 90 degrees.
The thought of taking a big chip and running it at much lower clocks to improve efficiency sounds tempting. Imagine a GTX 1080 TI, running at 1200 MHz (instead of the 1900+ they tend to boost to) for a well performing, sub 100W card.
I got an E9173 in the Dell Wyse 5070 Extended that I bought to use as a router. Now there's a 10GbE NIC in its place. Now this card is just sitting in a box, since I have a WX 4100 for any case where I'd have any use for the E9173.
I got whole bunch of those cards, but in MXM form, back in 18 or 19, I got whole bunch of casino slots embedded cpu and sodimms, never heard of thin clients with that, which should be pretty cool for streaming, the cards aren't that bad
speaking of graphics cards bought because they sound or look cool, i got my Intel Arc A770 today and i'm both excited and scared. this is the second time i'm an early adopter. i didn't regret buying 1st gen Ryzen, so hopefully i won't regret Intel Arc either. surely they ironed out the worst kinks by now... right?
I love low-profile gpus... When peeps try to shove new tech into a small form-factor, keeping the power consumption sort of low, while keeping the performance somewhat decent.
here i am 2023 messing with a rubbish case with a am1 platform with a hd5570 ..strapped to 3 monitors installing windows 10 hoping that i remember eyefinity being more forgiving then i remember lol.. just because the stuff was laying around. good times. and i need a side rig for world of tanks.
Cyberpunk looks and seems to feel the same as the ps4 pro I played it on at launch was a good as game even with the glitches tho some just were fun to me to which made it better
I bought one of these bad boys to put in a lenovo sff desktop that I hooked up in my living room to play GTA V on my TV and it was cheaper than a gt1030 at the time. Not to mention that its basically the same as the radeon pro card but not blue.
Just FYI, this is a low-end GCN 4.0 (Polaris) based GPU ... Radeon 550X with some shaders disabled and 2GB of GDDR5. A Radeon 560 (also without external PCIe power) destroys this thing, while also cheap on aliexpress
One of these just came with a dell wyse thin client I bought to try out pfsense. Might actually keep the card in case I need something for a display out in the future that doesn’t need extra power plug.
looks like a rebranded RX550? (540/550 and E9170 series are both based on the Lexa chip.) E9170 series does have a lower TDP though (35W instead of 50W for RX550).
According to Passmark, it's ~6x slower than GTX1660, a card that can be undervolted to 75W, so it's 3 times less efficient than a not much younger Nvidia design.
This one I actually have heard of! There was an mobile/mxm version of this in a laptop I borrowed once. (it was either this or the e9174, don’t remember exactly or know what the differences are)
looks really sexy tbh. i'd get it for that factor alone Also, i found out that a large variety of Japanese rhythm game arcade machines use one of these (or at least close variants)!
It's based on lexa GPU architecture which means it's RX 550 but terrible, you might be able to flash it with regular RX 550 BIOS because i did the same a year ago flashing a regular RX 470D and RX 480 BIOS on WX5100 and WX7100 .
I found this video because I saw one of these on eBay. I'm trying to look for a low profile and low power GPU for a Small Form factor Dell desktop I got for free. I'm using it in my living room to run some less intense games.
ive been finding some 2gb oem rx 550 low profile cards lately , their not bad for $45 , they destroy a 1030 but cost $30 less on average than a used 1030 nowadays
A year later, on ebay only 30 bucks. Tbh not bad if you only have a small form factor desktop(Optiplex i7 etc) and want a capable of playing for less than 100 bucks. Will not play everything, but should play most out there except demanding games.
Here's a question and an idea, what are the prices for GTX 770 where you are? Because I've bought one for 30 euros shipped and it's better than the 1050 people are asking up to 60 euros for, as well as many overhyped cards people think are good. This card is kind of forgotten, it never even got a Titanium version and there might be a 4Gb version, but not where I live.
Can you do a video on Resident Evil 4 Remake Demo on how well it runs on low end systems? I literally finished it like 15 times already with my GTX 750 2GB (non-Ti)
Have you tried using a hdmi / dp spitter (Male to dual female spitter, from an Amazon search) where you can split one port into two so you can plug in a second monitor
its awesome to see someone cover this card. ive been playing around with two of these for a while and turned me on to a deep rabbit hole of weird cards I’d never heard of before
Yeah love finding these weird and wonderful releases
can you crossfire them ? or only DX 12 ?
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 i didnt see any support in amds software for crossfire with two of them in a system at the same time, but i also dont have many motherboards that support crossfire so i dunno if a newer board would make it work either.
@@terrierkelpie4 pretty sure amd blocked crossfire toggle in newer drivers
Does it support win 11
That would be an interesting video, comparing gpus that only draw power from pcie slot
Yeah there’s a good few around now so worth a look for sure
I actually discovered the r7 300/400, r9 300 Dell OEM cards, some of which match rx 560 performance
I feel like the rx6400 or rx6500 would win that fight. Intel's ARC Pro cards might be close as well.
@@DigitalJedi On PCIe 4 or PCIe 3? Because on PCIe 3 they will be massively hampered by only having 4 lanes. On the 6500 that can make a difference between 5% and 45% depending on the game.
Rtx a2000 because it used to be 250 on Amazon used and had power comparable to rtx 3050
Just one of a plethora of reasons I love your vids. These rare, unheard of and legendary cards, getting all this attention, plus watching them in action. I swear, I could go back right now and watch all your vids like this from the past! Love it, keep them coming!
Better rarities than LTT.
Hands down. Lmao
Or A75I mini itx motherboard
Now we have asume to change this channel name to "Rarer low budget tech than LTT".
@@lebedev6954 ??? What motherboard?
@@chuckwow3302 im talking about MSI FM2- A75IA-E53,only fm2 mini itx motherboard known to mankind,as i know there is only one in the whole of my country that is on sell
I picked one of these up during the height of the shortage for around $65 (when the RX 550 was $100+). It found its way into a cheap Optiplex and was pretty reasonable.
Damm dude love these types of videos
Keeps me up to date on what GPUs i never heard of
Thanks :)
Small GPU's are always very interesting, it run not "that" bad, but there are really better options :D
It's a low power Polaris card. A RX 540 with halved memory bus to be more precise. So it will perform as expected from that.
Interesting GPU, very nice review👍
I adore this channel. V stripped back, genuinely informative and some really odd bits of kit we'd otherwise never see
Picked one of those up for $40 a couple of months ago for a Dell PC. It was performing really poorly until I increased the power limit. Not fast, but at the price I paid and the lack of better options in the range I'm pretty satisfied. Those ~2017 AMD reference coolers were so aesthetically pleasing, even if they weren't quite as good as the needed to be.
The fun fact is, You can push the power limit of this GPU to 29W (it's locked to 17W) and gain something around 30% of performance. With 100mV of undervolting, you can drop it to 23-25W. I'm also thinking of modding the VBIOS of this card, to push it even further. This card has some unleashed potential and cooler in this card is suprisingly capable of doing that.
Getting it to 29w is pretty simple to do in Linux using CoreCtrl. the card is a bit of a beast for how cheap they can be found for. I am using the low latency Linux kernel 5.16.11 with the built in amdgpu driver.
I have one of those. Bought at the same time I bought a WX 2100 and after comparing their bioses, the only difference between E9173 and WX 2100 is the power limit (17W x 25W). If you edit E9173's bios, you can increase it from 17W to 25W. Yeah, the GPU gets a little hotter, but it will perform a lot better. Give it a test if you are curious. My card is running with 25W for more than a year now.
where on earth you bought it from?
@@judasthepious1499ebay. At the time there was 2 listings of it and I found one that was less than $60. For nowadays standards, that's too much, but this was 2021.
I ended up getting a half height RX 6400 recently for that dual xeon workstation I told you about, and it runs surprisingly well for what it is. Turns out I couldn't actually fit a 1080 ti without modifying the case, which was a major buzz kill.
I opted for an rx 6400 for a Xeon workstation for the same reason. Sure some slight performance is left on the table with pcie 3 but it hits 1080p medium fine for the games I play, even runs Hogwarts legacy just fine
You could probably fit the Zotac Mini version of the 1080 Ti, but they tend to sell for a bit too much most of the time.
I put my half height RX 6400 into an SFF Dell Optiplex. PCIe3 bottleneck and all (Haswell).
For as bad as the press @#$%'d onto the little card, it really is the best option for stuffing into tight places.
It plays everything I've thrown at it for 1080p60 easy.
Crazy how on either end of the GPU spectrum we have 400+ watt monsters like the 4090 or tiny little GPUs like this that are crazy efficient.
The RX6400 averages 43watts in gaming
Well i have a Power Color Fighter RX 6600 and this thing only hits 170 Watts max while my CPU is a Ryzen 5 4500, for the PSU i went a bit overkill with my Seasonic Focus GX-850 Watts, my system doesn't consume as much anyway.
I have one of these! I bought it during the gpu shortage over covid because all the low profile cards were going for so much! I use it in very small 60w pc and it's a perfect match. I also have the next one in the series e9260 (baffin) which I got around the same time and they CAN be overclocked with polaris bios editor. Would love to see you check out the overclocking on it.
This, the wx2100 and the Radeon 550 (non RX), which are all essentially the same card, are the perfect minimum GPU for systems without integrated graphics. They have current drivers, h.265 hardware support and directX 12 compatibility.
I ended up pairing some of these with 12100F chips for basic home systems back when the 12100 with iGPU was hard to find, and have no complaints. Still have 2 wx2100 cards sitting around in their nice blue shrouds.
I wonder what the overclocking potential is for a card like this. ~17 -> 20-25W could make a world of difference.
zero. got one last month. it does not overclock at all.
Surprising. Thanks for answering :)
@@GamerDeity did you try downloading gaming drivers?
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 those don't work. Had to use modded drivers. Uses rx 550ish driver
@Karleen wasn't sure if they would just thought I'd ask.
I actually thought the screen was simulated; you did a good job capturing it from a camera.
You should check out the yeston LP singleslot 1650. I picked it up for about $150 with a coupon.
It's a similar form factor to the 1030.
Fun to watch - as always! :)
Especially the csngo party :D
It'd still work well for a little emulation box
Looks like a radeon equivalent of the gt1030, which works well
it's a Radeon equivalent of the RX 540, which is quite a bit slower. It would be like nvidias GT 1010 (which does exist, but only for OEMs) or a DDR4 GT 1030
The closest to a GDDR5 GT 1030 would be to step up to the RX 550 or E9174.
So close and yet...
GT 1030 is much more powerful than this one. It run GTA V on high settings at 60 fps while this card barely does low (normal).
I really wanna get my hands on the newer Nvidia A2000 6gb. would love the 12gb variant. but not necessary! 💯
I literally saw this GPU 3 weeks ago when I was planning on upgrading a prebuilt HP pc, settled for a Pro WX4100 since it offers better performance/specs for the same price at the time.
Closer to the 1024 shader RX 560 even
Woah that's something new, definitely an interesting vid!
I love these tiny gpus and the newer Rx6400 which what this GPU looks like ✊🤩🥰💪. Great scores finding these rarer pc parts
You must gotten same itch I had couple weeks back. I picked up a WX 4100 after hunting for entirely to long for something low profile that was affordable; sadly in the US they went from ~$50 upto $100 shortly after. Should land somewhere between the RX460 and RX560 (I think, don't quote me). My only complaint is the fan gets a bit noisy. I'm going to try cleaning and adding more lubrication.
If that doesn't work I might pick one of these up to salvage the fan from and give the E9173 the old one. Thanks for sharing this rare find.
I've actually jury-rigged a 40mm fan as a case fan in a low profile machine, blowing air out the empty card slot spaces, for this reason (different card, but same issue). Some of these low profile cards have cooling that doesn't work well in a poorly ventilated case, which many low profile cases are. A fact amply illustrated by the fact that the 40mm fan moved more air than either of the fans that came in the system, even though they were larger.
This kind of stuff is neater than any video on a 40 series card. Keep the obscure gpus coming.
Thanks for this info. I needed a cheap low profile card for my dad's PC. Since this card can do 4K60 this is perfect for him and I got one for $30. 👍
For watching movies and shows in 4K, he doesn't play games.
Also check out the T400. It's a more capable card and supports HDR which was why I got it for the family room HTPC.. I paid $90 for on a few months back.... But the going rate seems to be in the $150 range....
Great video. It might be helpful in the video (or in the description) to provide the silicon code name, the # of compute units, and TDP. E9173 is a "Lexa" GPU with 512 CU's and is essentially a "Pro" embedded RX 550 with 2GB GDDR5 running at 35w. I know a subset of your viewers would appreciate that detail!
Wikipedias article on the list of Radeon cards describes it as Polaris 21, and in specs the same as a RX 540 but with halved memory bus.
And the RX 540, RX 550, Radeon Pro WX 2100, WX 3100, Radeon E9173 and E9174 are all pretty much the same card with minor details.
This is a great video! I think this GPU would be pretty decent in combination with some up scaling tech, I. e. the FSR mod for GTA 5.
Good find. This in a low profile optiplex would make you good budget minecraft rig. I've been looking for a cheap card to build multiple cheap pcs for Lan minecraft sessions.
Oooh, now he's a slim boy! Would be great for a TV attached media box.
Yeah perfect use
Had one a few years ago (bought for $48 then) and it was good for emulation and lower end games. Cool for low profile builds, emu machines, plex servers, etc.
INTERESTING card. Looks like the E9173 might perform ever so slightly better than a GT 1030. (Yeah, the GT 1030 can do it for you too if you don't mind running 720p.) There are considerably less impressive low profile options. So cool find!
running a 1030 currently, honestly runs some games well at 1080 low, ive had a few games i cant play but its really solid for competitive games like csgo or valorant
I'm running a RX550 right now so far it's been good enough for everything I've thrown at it.
this card would run worse than a gt 1030 and rx 550, I have both of those cards and rx 550 outperforms it and the card he has up here uses the same chip as the rx 550 but its only running on a 64 bit bus compared to the rx 550's 128bit bus it only has like half the memory bandwidth. all the other specs are the same but its basically a heavily gimped rx 550
@@parasiticpupp3t in what 720p all low? the only thing I use the rx 550 for is simple emulation on a computer hooked up to my tv , the rx 580 is roughly 5x as fast as an rx 550 and i felt like my rx580 was getting old and replaced it with an rx 6600 which is 2.5x as fast as my old 580
@@kyles8524 Cool clarification. The GT 1030 is what I pretty much consider rock bottom for what's acceptable, for me. If something isn't as good as that, I might call it INTERESTING and pass it by! Very glad that others tried it out so I don't have to. :)
Thanks for the video. I wish there was a brief performance comparison with vega8 of 5700g in the test bench
I bought one of these cards recently. Only paid $30. I put it in a Haswell Dell pre-built I'm using as my Linux web browsing/email/office machine to drive my 2 4k monitors as it was intended.
Does the card support hevc encode/decode? It would be an interesting card for a home server where one might occasionally use a powerful CPU for compiling and sometimes stream media
It is based on Polaris, so it should have it.
@@Thelango99 so it's a cut-down RX550, basically.
@@SeeJayPlayGames A cut down RX 540, which, tbff, is pretty much the same GPU anyway. There is a whole set of 3 desktop, one mobile, 2 workstation, 2 mobile workstation and 3 embedded cards, all the with the same specs.
@@SeeJayPlayGames Yes, it is basically a RX 550 with half the memory bus width.
Would be good to pair with an AM2 or 775 rig for playing older DX8/9-era games on, especially if it's an SFF system with either a proprietary-mount PSU (BTX-era HP SFF office machines come to mind there, standard ATX pinout, but proprietary case mount) or a fully proprietary PSU at the pinout as well, and this embedded Polaris card will slaughter whatever those older systems would've shipped with for a dGPU, eg. my dc5750 SFF box would've shipped with an X1300 Pro for a dGPU and it has an X1150 chipset for onboard graphics, and as far as Passmark is concerned, it's a slaughter against that X1300 Pro in favor of the E9173.
Got this for £20 thanks to this video. Was eying the WX 2100 but decided to do a ebay search for this card and it was cheaper.
The CPU I paired it with a E3-1265L v3 what is overkill but wanted a fairly decent low power system on the cheap. The CPU is only 45W TDP. System HP ProDesk 600 G1. May upgrade to the WX 4100 later on down the line.
The benchmark footage is better this way than The usual capture card IMHO.
I’ve got two of these as well!
One for my collection of oddball parts, the other to put into a ITX desktop where the old dGPU had an outdated selection of ports and driver support had ended, and the iGPU has a totally broken DX12 implementation that Intel has said they’re never gonna fix.
Got it for a relative deal mid scalpocalypse because no one really seems to know what it is, other than not a gaming card. Overpaid on a price/performance basis, but was still less than the Radeon Pro version of the card or a GT1030 DDR4 were at the time.
And from the perspective of getting something with a modern (mostly) architecture in a compact form factor I can use anywhere, I’m digging it. Thinking about replacing that old ITX system with a cheap surplus Xeon E5 system, and probably gonna reuse the card there next.
One interesting thing I noticed: Under that shroud there’s actually a nice array of dense fins atop a copper slug instead of the cheap aluminum extrusion I’ve seen on unshrouded half-height, low-profile Radeon cards for OEM systems.
Hey Steve are you gonna do a video on the resident evil 4 demo? 🤔 great video!
I didn't even know you were recording the monitor until you said it 😂
I came across this weird beast in a job lot we purchased. I am going to dig it out and see if i can make a micro retro system with it if it powers up. I couldnt find any information on it other than it being a micro card and a few on ebay with no backstory. Thank you for this
I have the WX2100. On paper seems to be identical specs, and is a decent upgrade for Dell Optiplexes. There’s also the WX3100 if you need the extra VRAM/memory bus
There's the WX4100 as well, which is the strongest of them all in that same footprint with an extra display output (4 miniDP instead of 2 miniDP and a regular DP). Managed to nab 1 for US$100 (with an adapter).
In terms of specs, the WX 3100, E9147 and RX 5500 are pretty much identical (but the RX 550 has slightly higher memory clocks). The WX 2100, E9173 and RX 5400 are cut down versions with halved memory bus. There are slightly different clocks, but GPU performance is within 5% of each other.
I have an E6760, which is based on the Turks GPU used in the HD 6500 and 6600 series.
It's useless for gaming, but still handy for testing other components since it doesn't require external power. It can also display 4K at 30 Hz through Mini DP.
Well, it can do D3D 11.0 and OpenGL 4.5, so lots of games that will run on it.
I have one of those too... and you know what's really lame? The GPU itself is capable of driving four DisplayPort 1.2 ports and two DisplayPort 1.1 ports... and the genius board manufacturer wired up only the two BAD ones. Now it's sitting in a box, I probably really should just e-waste it.
@@HappyBeezerStudios Sadly, no, because it can't use standard drivers, so many games don't recognize it and refuse to start, or run extremely slowly as if using software rendering.
I also tried flashing it to HD 6570 and 6670, but both no display. Its GPU and VRAM chips are on the same "module" (like HBM). I guess that's why consumer BIOSs wouldn't work - different memory models.
Hi @RandomGamingHD, love your content selection.
Do you perhaps know how this card handled forza please?
I've been thinking for a while that it would be really cool if we had mini graphics solutions kinda like this. Stuff that would work with Raspberry Pi-like pcs. Would be cool to put something like a desktop-tier iGPU onto
I have four of these GPU's at the moment! For SFF light upgrades.
Whenever I'm working in an SFF PC I try and find a Quadro P600, good performance for a good price, no extra power requirements and completely single slot like this one. :)
I have a radeon r7 240 2gb ddr5 with a xeon e3 1271 v3 and they run most titles decently even the water at night on gta 5 looks good im upgrading to the 4 gb version to push my cpu a bit more it runs fairly low now.. thanks for the video
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Ooh- I covered this card in a short a few months back!
You should compare this to the WX2100….I wonder how really close these cards are
Same.
The WX2100 boosts to 1219 MHz, the E9173 runs at 1219 MHz. All other things are identical.
Love it; "I just type in rare and see what comes up" and that's how we get another video :D
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Love the design of it.
Yeah great compact design
This looks a lot like my single slot RX 550. Exact same Display port + two mini display port layout. But my RX 550 runs about 1200mhz on clock and gets very hot, think 90 degrees.
It's pretty much the same as a RX 540 (which uses the same GPU as the RX 550) but with halved memory bus.
I have one of these! It's in my HTPC and I picked it up for like $50 a couple months ago.
Does it support HDR?
man, I wish we had low TDP cards like this today, I would've bought one in a heartbeat
Yeah imagine if high end 30 cards could run on just PCIe power
There are cards like this but they are expensive as hell
The thought of taking a big chip and running it at much lower clocks to improve efficiency sounds tempting.
Imagine a GTX 1080 TI, running at 1200 MHz (instead of the 1900+ they tend to boost to) for a well performing, sub 100W card.
RX550 with a really strange name, I had one come in a Dell Wyse 5070 extended but I’ve never really tested it.
Yeah basically the same as that too. Not sure why this exists really
@@RandomGaminginHD No I couldn’t work it out!It’s naming scheme is just strange.
Interesting graphics card, like!
I got an E9173 in the Dell Wyse 5070 Extended that I bought to use as a router. Now there's a 10GbE NIC in its place.
Now this card is just sitting in a box, since I have a WX 4100 for any case where I'd have any use for the E9173.
I got whole bunch of those cards, but in MXM form, back in 18 or 19, I got whole bunch of casino slots embedded cpu and sodimms, never heard of thin clients with that, which should be pretty cool for streaming, the cards aren't that bad
speaking of graphics cards bought because they sound or look cool, i got my Intel Arc A770 today and i'm both excited and scared. this is the second time i'm an early adopter. i didn't regret buying 1st gen Ryzen, so hopefully i won't regret Intel Arc either. surely they ironed out the worst kinks by now... right?
I love low-profile gpus...
When peeps try to shove new tech into a small form-factor, keeping the power consumption sort of low, while keeping the performance somewhat decent.
here i am 2023 messing with a rubbish case with a am1 platform with a hd5570 ..strapped to 3 monitors installing windows 10 hoping that i remember eyefinity being more forgiving then i remember lol.. just because the stuff was laying around. good times. and i need a side rig for world of tanks.
Cyberpunk looks and seems to feel the same as the ps4 pro I played it on at launch was a good as game even with the glitches tho some just were fun to me to which made it better
I bought one of these bad boys to put in a lenovo sff desktop that I hooked up in my living room to play GTA V on my TV and it was cheaper than a gt1030 at the time. Not to mention that its basically the same as the radeon pro card but not blue.
Just FYI, this is a low-end GCN 4.0 (Polaris) based GPU ... Radeon 550X with some shaders disabled and 2GB of GDDR5. A Radeon 560 (also without external PCIe power) destroys this thing, while also cheap on aliexpress
Yeah that’s a much better choice
@@RandomGaminginHD Thanks for the video Steve. I do wonder how this particular GPU stacks up against an integrated AMD Vega though
Not bad! I wonder how it does with video and photo editing.
Half height, low power, and a TRUE single slot makes this perfect for servers, even 1U rack-mounted pizza boxes.
if you can find a 9450/75 that's the better option. this one is a 4X PciE only card as it only has half the pins in the pciE male end connector.
*x8. And for such low end GPUs it doesn't matter.
@@SeeJayPlayGames It's also very memory bus limited.
One of these just came with a dell wyse thin client I bought to try out pfsense. Might actually keep the card in case I need something for a display out in the future that doesn’t need extra power plug.
What a cool little card.
Hi, are you able to test more AMD FirePro GPUs? For example the V1900?
Reminds me of the ltt video on the gtx 1050ti gpu motherboard all in one for sign displays and such
looks like a rebranded RX550? (540/550 and E9170 series are both based on the Lexa chip.) E9170 series does have a lower TDP though (35W instead of 50W for RX550).
According to Passmark, it's ~6x slower than GTX1660, a card that can be undervolted to 75W, so it's 3 times less efficient than a not much younger Nvidia design.
This one I actually have heard of! There was an mobile/mxm version of this in a laptop I borrowed once. (it was either this or the e9174, don’t remember exactly or know what the differences are)
Memory bandwith.
The E9174 is identical to the desktop RX 540, the E9173 has a halved memory bus, and thus also half the bandwith.
looks really sexy tbh. i'd get it for that factor alone
Also, i found out that a large variety of Japanese rhythm game arcade machines use one of these (or at least close variants)!
Sounds like an old Core2Duo name. OEM GPUs named weird
Haha yeah
I have a few of these in my workstations!
The TDP Dream
I love how, in most cases, CPU+GPU power usage is less than 30 watts. The ultra energy saving PC if I say so myself.
3:14 this was a tragic death
It's based on lexa GPU architecture which means it's RX 550 but terrible, you might be able to flash it with regular RX 550 BIOS because i did the same a year ago flashing a regular RX 470D and RX 480 BIOS on WX5100 and WX7100 .
This card should be recommended to collectors only
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I found this video because I saw one of these on eBay. I'm trying to look for a low profile and low power GPU for a Small Form factor Dell desktop I got for free. I'm using it in my living room to run some less intense games.
It’s adorable.
ive been finding some 2gb oem rx 550 low profile cards lately , their not bad for $45 , they destroy a 1030 but cost $30 less on average than a used 1030 nowadays
A year later, on ebay only 30 bucks. Tbh not bad if you only have a small form factor desktop(Optiplex i7 etc) and want a capable of playing for less than 100 bucks. Will not play everything, but should play most out there except demanding games.
Here's a question and an idea, what are the prices for GTX 770 where you are? Because I've bought one for 30 euros shipped and it's better than the 1050 people are asking up to 60 euros for, as well as many overhyped cards people think are good.
This card is kind of forgotten, it never even got a Titanium version and there might be a 4Gb version, but not where I live.
It's a big Kepler card, and those are still surprisingly good.
I’ll probs never remember the EDP445E9whateverthefuck name but it’s still pretty cool
You should do a video on the RE4 Remake Demo! I wanna see the absolute lowest end hardware possible to run it 🤣
I could see all the statistics just fine. ;-)
Can you do a video on Resident Evil 4 Remake Demo on how well it runs on low end systems? I literally finished it like 15 times already with my GTX 750 2GB (non-Ti)
Have you tried using a hdmi / dp spitter (Male to dual female spitter, from an Amazon search) where you can split one port into two so you can plug in a second monitor
Just ordered one 😁
Cheap 1080p spitter for 8.99usd but trust it like you will trust a masked villin.
@@RandomGaminginHD you can also get a Mini Display Port-to-HDMI adapter, I got one off Amazon for a client for like £6, works perfectly.
woo new video
It's pretty much the same as a RX 540, but with half the memory bandwidth. All other specs are identical.
i have the E9173 MXM type from Dell Workstation Laptop.