Your Perfect Boxing Stance (Not what you think)
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Boxing stance is one of the most important aspect in boxing, there are so many boxing stance or style out there that world champions use but it may not be the best stance for you as a beginner or an amateur boxer. In this video, we will go over the pros and cons of Hands Down, Peekaboo, Philly Shell and the traditional boxing stance.
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0:00 Your Perfect Boxing Stance (Not what you think)
1:22 Muhammad Ali Style - Hands Down
2:01 Mike Tyson Peekaboo stance
2:55 Floyd Mayweather Boxing Style - Philly Shell
6:27 The Best Boxing Stance
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in Peekabo boxing don't have back step it's true.
But even don't need to step back because You need to get close to your opponent because in Peekabo style You have just short powerfull punches.If a Peekabo fighter get far from you He can't hit you.
And if you move your all body and head fast and you go to forward to left and to right your opponent can't hit you , because he doesn't see you well.
But need to practice and understand the the style of cours.
I personally use a mix of them all traditional, phelly shell and when am cocky hands-down
Naoya inoue ore David Morrel has the perfect stance, I don't know if it is good in heavyweight
what about Canelo Alveraz or Julio Cesar chaves????
I think the two best boxing stances are the American orthodox stance and the Russian high guard stance personally I’m a little biased to the American orthodox stance because of the Russian version your high up by your face you set up the job job punched the American orthodox stance is more set up to be Taylor made for defense encounter attacks which is kind of more my style greetings my man from the TMT what do you prefer do you prefer the American style or the Russian style??
You experiment until you find the one that is Just Right.
I agree mate, but I still recommend for beginners to start with the traditional boxing stance, then they could experiment
@@Tony_Jeffries It is an honour to get a reply from you Mr Jeffries.
This is what I did, and I think the long stance or hands down (up when needed)
Like Goldilocks
Tyson, Ali, Mayweather 🐐 🐐 🐐
That last aspect is so important:
Most people focus too much on stances first. Good boxing is not shaped by the stance, but good boxing shapes the stance.
Learning what works and what the individual strengths one has, will shape how one approaches the opponent, and that will naturally lead to improvement, if one analyzes their own mistakes.
No one needs a stance until they got the basics down: you need solid footwork and punches, clean movement and a working flowchart.
And the traditional stance forces one to learn the fundamentals. No stance in the world fixes sloppy boxing.
When your basic boxing has gotten good, you can use stances to pronounce your individual strengths and compensate your weaknesses.
Someone say “footwork”? I live at the alter of footwork. It’s metaphorically and literally the basis of how I dominate…and just survive 😂 vs other boxers.
You had an absolute great point about floyd mayweather and the Philly shell but something that is underrated about Floyd is that he also used the high gaurd defense he didn’t always use the Philly shell in every situation
You'll typically see him use the high guard against southpaws.
@@shaunp253 yeah and also when he is being swarmed
I noticed he used all different guards to suit the situation switching between them really fast thats why he sort of rolled his hands around to keep the opponent constantly guessing.
Can you make a video about the pros and cons of boxing styles (out-boxer, swarmer, brawler, boxer-puncher and counter-puncher)?
I’m 17.. And I really, really wanna get into boxing. I’m not really able to afford a punching bag or a membership to a gym, but these videos help me out so much. Thank you for posting so frequently
we are at the same age
When I was your age and I was in the same situation, I found friends who also like boxing and spared them many times, and that’ll teach you how to box very quickly
I feel ya brotha.
(I started when I was 17 as well) There are some gyms that will take you in and work with you even if you don’t have the money right away. It worked for me. Just be genuine and real with people and a good person, and always willing to learn, never have an ego, even after you get good. Always have that white belt mentality and be q student first, 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗬𝗟𝗟 𝗪𝗔𝗡𝗧 𝗬𝗢𝗨 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗥𝗘.
I’d recommend shadow boxing and basic calisthenics like pushups, sit ups, squats and burpees.
That sht he said at the end of the video was 100% correct and I’ve completely agree with him. I’ve never not once seen or heard a boxing coach say that but it’s always how I felt about it. I always felt when someone is learning for the first time always start out with the textbook traditional basics first. After that you’ll be so much more fluid and sooner or later you can try other styles out to see what works for you if you want without picking up very bad habits that you will have to unlearn if you were to start off with them. Look at it this way. All basketball players learn textbook basic basketball fundamentals before there personality ends up being their full game. People like Allen Iverson didn’t start out like the way he was, he started out with the basic fundamentals first.
Hello Tony. I’ve been followed your channel for many years. It’s been very useful. I’ve been self teaching boxing by watching your vids for like 4 years already. I’ve also been thinking about taking boxing to the next level by competing. Nothing just wanna say keep doing what you’re doing😊 much love from Thailand🎉
you are the best boxing youtube creator🥊🥊🥊
I appreciate it mate, means a lot 🙏🏻
Yes he is he covers all aspects of boxing and knows what he s talking about
Excellent as ever: full of information, clearly explained, fun to watch. Thank you very much for spending all the time and effort putting all these great videos together!
Love the videos Tony. Your knowledge, experience, energy and enthusiasm is bang on point. 👊👌✌️
The way I go about it is I just mix all of my favorite fighters style practices, studying, and then when I’m fighting you got good results but I did learn from Tony’s technique break down
Same, I think imma practice switching stances from orthodox to southpaw and back because it kind comes naturally and it’s good to confuse the opponent with different techniques
Maaan Tony, luv your videos and attitude!
Appriciate your knowledge and experience so much!
As always, very nice video!
You're one of the few boxing/combat sports channels I am subscribed to.
Personally I switch between stances depending on the situation at hand. but of course one should start and stick to the basics, and from there onwards experiment to see what works for each person.
Tony we love your videos! You’re teaching me how to box day by day
Great video on an interesting topic. Thanks coach!
My stance has evolved. My coach started me out with basic high guard. Over the years its now become a mix of high guard, long guard, boxing off the back foot switch hitting with a touch of hands down only when I know he's slower than me or can't reach me. Basically, as you said, you sorta find your own groove that works for you... My guard is still evolving too
Nice video toney keep up the good work 💪🥊🥊
Thanks ma man, let me know if you have any questions 👊
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YO I NEEDED THIS CAUSE I KEEP COPING OTHER PEOPLES STANCE BUT IT DIDN'T WORK BUT NOW I GOT MINE TYSM
Thanks for your help, for teaching us😊
Anytime mate, just let me know if you have any questions 👊
Im a biggest fan sir i learn alot from you ❤
Being boxing for 4 years now and last year i discovered the soviet style boxing and i love it. It work well when you are tall. I definitely use it against shorter opponent but if the guy is taller than me i go back to normal style.
Great video high level IQ on boxing 🥊 smart fighter 💪🏽
Great video 😊😊
Thanks ma man, means alot 👊
I agree, traditional stance is ideal , mostly for someone like me only practicing on bag never sparr , is default mode.
Its what your comfortable confident with where everything flows off it naturally
Hi, started boxing at a local club aged 44 and love your content. One annoying issue is ny shoulder area getting tight fairly quickly so keeping my left guard up becomes difficult. Do you have any videos around shoulder/joint mobility videos?
Thanks very much.
Thanks for help us in boxing 😊
Any time ma man 🥊
My opinion is, everyone has to start with text book and once you get the textbook you can then proceed to try others or maybe you keep textbook it just depends on what feels right like buying trainers/sneakers
It’s also worth noting that if you are doing anything other than boxing then you won’t have the big gloves to protect you, which could change how you look at your stance.
Thank you Coach ❤
Happy to help mate
Pick a boo stance is really good if you have the explosive power punch, and likes to be the aggressor, philly shell and shoulder roll is good for counter punchers and defensive style of boxing
Your right no 1 stance is better. U have to adapt depending on the opponent & situation. Eg. if your fighting a dude that might gas early, u can start with a more mobile or defensive stance.
It is interesting! :) Thank you! What is your opinion about soviet style boxing like Bivol? Or what is your opinion about Naoya Inoue? :)
the basic stance is also pretty flexible.
you can square it up to infight and brawl(mid-range fight,can also boxer-punch aswell)
then sideways the stance to outbox and counterpunch
then the normal one who can fit into anything,you just need tactics and big brain to back up the lack of pros it has.
I prefer the long guard it feels more natural for me and my size and have some good results and in between i do switch to the traditional style and still working on it and developing
Great post. All boxers have their own unique defence boxing stance. Bob Foster the light heavyweight champion in the 1970s had a fab side on stance.
U taught me boxing sir i wish one day u become my manager and trainer
Can you make a video on how to use your body weight in punching? Where should the body weight be on punches? How does it shift? Thanks :)
Edit: I 100% agree with Tony. The type of stance you use depends on your fighting style. All beginners should use the traditional stance as recommended at the end of the vid. Its the OG for a reason.
I use a combination of a high guard and a long guard for my Boxing stance, that's because I predominantly fight on the outside. The long guard helps me to gauge if I am in striking range, I can fire off quick jabs and I can feint. The high guard is used if my opponent closes the gap, if I get backed into a corner, my hands are already there to block and parry incoming punches or I can get into a clinch.
Did you watch the full video mate?
@@Tony_Jeffries Yes. I was agreeing with you.👍
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Hey did you see my Spanish channel?
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Need you do a naoya inoue breakdown video.
The science behind how hard he hits and doesn’t make it look like he winding up.
Do you still comment/critique boxing videos from TikTok and Instagram? Love those videos!
hey tony i commented a while back mate like 2 years ago or something between that range great too see you have 2.25m subscribers mate just wanted to say hi and you are doing great
I love a very narrow peekaboo stance. Easy to defend, easy to attack, just an all around great style.
Sir please make a video on how to block punches and head movement 🥊
The best boxing stance is the sprint!!
I think it all depends on who you're facing in a particular fight. Let's say I'm fighting Tony: my stance then would we leaning forward with my back facing Tony, while I run away.
😂😂😂
New to boxing--wondering i should focus on Tony? Do you do online sessions? I'm based in the UK. Thanks
The best guard of the boxer is the one that best suits each style, however the guard that Salvador Sanchez or Julio Cesar Chávez used are one of the best guards for any boxer, since they allow you to put pressure and attack. defend the most vital parts of the body as this is very important, especially if you are new.
'Gotta learn the fundamentals first before experimenting advanced techniques' is what he's trying to say m8s.
I personally use a mix of them all traditional phelly and when am cocktails hands-down
Note: i do kick boxing so this effects my stance alot. But i like to put my left hand at my cheek and my right out. So my right jabs them and i can cambo them. And if they do attack I always have my left hand there to wait for my right to retract. So the kicks help with keeping them at distance and counters part of cambos etc. so yea thats my take. (Dont take it to serious my pfp is a roblox character lol) regardless i do go to a kickboxing gym and it works well for me so have fun thats my take
So a thing to note about the phelly shell is that floyds is more defensive than the og version. But id argue the og version also requires a higher level of swapping between 'aggression and defensive stance'.
Im a new guy ofc! But i make the comment to you because from how you describe the fight with the guy it sounded like he only learned the first version by floyd?
thank you
I'm right-handed and use a southpaw philly. Works pretty well for me.
I like boxing although the only real way for me to train is through vr. The opponents suck, but it gives me an opportunity to practice stuff on something that punches back and guards. I ended up with a normal guard but with a slightly more sideways stance but my right arm a bit lower and further back to prime it for that right hook or move it somewhere to parry. I primarily do fencing as a sport so I don’t know if that would have anything to do with it. Anyway, is that stance valid?
It depends are we fighting with the traditional rules or are we going old school bare knuckle which has regained popularity.
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They're all good styles they mastered all three of them.
There is conflicting information about how wide a boxing stance should be, depending on who you ask. Initially my stance was wide (I felt like I could dart in and out better like that), but I got converted by a coach (a hall of famer pro) to stand with my legs shoulder width apart in the traditional stance. After some time in the shoulder width I felt my hands were faster, but I still felt like I could not move as quickly. In this video Tony's traditional stance is wider than shoulder width which is what originally felt more natural to me. I feel like the more narrow stance was more popular back in the 70s.
Stances are dynamic tbh. You’re never always in one position.
Been boxing for 5 months, I slip punches a lot (and not to brag or anything but I think it’s quite good 😉) but my defence is very weak. I have my hands covering me but it never really does anything when I slip, You reckon it’d be better if I didn’t have my hands right up to my guard when I’m up close like that?
Great video Tony, very impressive videographics with the multiple screens and fight clips.
Glad you enjoyed it, please do share it as well 🥊
@@Tony_Jeffries I shared it on an mma forum as soon as i watched it.
I agree with everyone stertong with the basic vanilla traditional boxing stance, i have minor boxing experience, I feel like the traditional style is for me and ima be unique and work it to a level that it seems like its sum speical style when reallt its the basics evolved, thats what i feel like id be
Tony please do a video about the new rules for mike and jake
I prefer the long guard because I have long arms and am taller for my weight class. And it's super easy for me to see punches coming and deflect them. I used to do mainly high guard but felt like I was getting pummeled a lot with that stance because I had trouble with distance management.
Same bro, a mix between a long guard and philly shell feels way more natural. I’m also taller with longer arms.
I just go with what I like and whats comfortable
my favorite boxer is emanuel augustus
so I just keep my hands low kindaa like a philly shell stance I just do it to protect my stomach and it feels comfortable :)
and I also really wana get good at deffense but I think blocking is gonna fall short at some point so right now my idea is "I dont need to defend if there is nothing to hit" so I am trying to get good at that before I develop my offense
(btw its prob a bad habbit and I realise it I usually try to use the traditinal stance)
I feel a lot more comfortable in a philly shell rather than a traditional boxing stance. A traditional boxing stance feels very unnatural for me. Im also somewhat ambidextrous, for the most part I’m right handed but I feel better in a southpaw stance.
Do you think i should just get used to a traditional orthodox stance , or build on what I feel most comfortable in? I’ve got great reactions and depth perception already, I’ve also got an above average reach for my height if that makes any difference.
Would love to hear some opinions 🥊
Floyd didn't always box in the Philly shell. You can see him switch to a high guard in some fights. So it makes sense to develop various stances so you can switch depending on the situation.
From what you say, I think you sound blessed and should try and master as many as possible. To be able to fight southpaw as a righty is great. With a long reach, maybe try out a long guard? I love peekaboo, especially once you're in the pocket, it can be devastating. But I'm a shorty! All the best mate 👍
Pretty much pick the style that plays into your physical attributes best. The philly shell style I think is one of most difficult to master don’t see too many guys using that style the right way.
traditional stance sets the foundation for all others whether it's orthodox or southpaw. What is your take on training in both orthodox AND southpaw to give some variety and have something to switch to in order to throw off your opponent. If i remember correctly there aren't a lot of southpaw fighters so there may not be a lot of fighters who are used to fighting against a southpaw opponent.
Thoughts on Archie Moore's modified cross-guard?
i use like peek a boo but i like suffle it with hands low soo idk i want to hear what u think from it cause it work realy well
The hands down Ali style really is the ultimate level
i understand your point with the philly shell, but once you master it like floyd did, it’s a really good stance. Once you combine shoulder rolling with footwork and timing, it’s really hard to fight against, that’s why floyd is 50-0
I’ve only sparred once, train everyday and do bag work with traditional stance, but when I sparred I felt safer with philly shell. Not because I like FM, I actually don’t. I guess I need to sparr more to figure it out.
Philly shell works for me
It depends on your physical characteristics! Philly shell is ideal for light fighters while peek-a-boo is better for shorter ones
isn't peekaboo normally paired with the dempsey roll?
@@killer13324 Yes! That's why you have to be short to utilise it
@@vasilisthc4609 didn't tyson use it even against shorter opponents?
@@killer13324yes dont listen to this person
@@killer13324no one was shorter then him he wasn’t even tall enough to fight in heavyweight div I’m pretty sure
After trying out and experimenting, the Soviet boxing style feels like the style most natural.
Good evening tony, GREAT VIDEO. I've had an inquiry. How do I deal with a guy who throws punches really fast, non-stop, no tactics, no finesse. something no boxer would ever do. The guy is bigger, heavier and taller than me. How do i deal with these situations?
Is this a gym sparring situation? Personally, I'd try to move a lot and counter him as much as possible and also try and get on the inside where it negates a lot of his advantages. Sounds difficult, I'd also try not to spar with him often as well! It's all good experience though, as long as he's not trying to hurt you.
@@OffGridMadMan cant really call it a gym tho, its quite a culture in here to spar bareknuckle in places like backyards, alleys, hallways. Dangerous shit m8. These punks don't have the balls to come up to the gym and fight properly.
Greetings from the money team in Las Vegas it seems like the American and Russian styles in the stances are dominating and lately the Russian style has been picking up more steam however I still say the American stance is the best for defensive counterattack the problem with the Russian stance is you have rhetorical high guard
If tony hadn't been injured, he'd be called the greatest of our era , but i'll do just that for you .
Is it good to change stance based on the opponent?
Didnt tony have a video on why he doesnt do hard/head sparring anymore I cant find it
I dont think we can criticize the stance of GOATs. I think that if it works (hit and not get hit), and it works for you (you are confortable with it), that is the best stance
Always preferred a bladed stance.
make your every day stance be your fighting stance - miyamoto musashi
can you do a video about hitman technique please
i try every style boxing and suddenly i go with rocky marciano style..it work so well for me..the problem is im afraid to use it at sparring coz it too strong i might be danger to other people
Alvarez quite often goes to Philly shell though
The traditional stance doesn’t suit me, I always miss a lot of punches, but the pikabu is ideally able to dive under the opponent, approach with a pendulum and throw hooks, uppercuts to the body with a transfer to the head and vice versa
I mix the traditional stance with the philly shell
It largely depends on your natural abilities....what complements your talents. I always felt that Cus was in many ways a great trainer....but his style was far from universal...but it seemed like destiny was at work for him to train Tyson.
Having said that...id say the styles of Joe Louis or Evander Holyfield are more universal than any of the three mentioned here.
If he keeps coming at you with overhand rights while you are in the Philly Shell, you can counter with a 2 (Cross) a 6 (Right Uppercut). 4:30
Why cant you move back with the tyson style stance? Like is it physically not possible or just very difficult due to the position of your body and legs.
Hi, Tony!
Hi mate 👊
Man I use a stance between the second and the third, just call it a mixture stance 💀
Mine is just full guard but with hands slightly under jaw level
What do you think about Terence Crawford's style?