The Running Back Problem.

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  • @BrettKollmann
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      In Ireland, just in time for my breakfast too

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      Danke sehr!

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      From the states but am traveling in Ireland over the summer, is this what I’ve been missing the whole time?

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      Same here - I swear! It's the first time in a long time that I tolerate an ad.

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    • @cococock2418
      @cococock2418 4 місяці тому

      Absolutely no one cares, totally unnecessary comment.

  • @matthewtraum864
    @matthewtraum864 Рік тому +246

    Excess Value is the name of the game (or in Baseball terms his WAR). Saquon Barkley's value is way more than Jakobi Myers's. Saquon's excess value over replacement is less. That's where the issue stems from.

    • @marcellomoore9755
      @marcellomoore9755 Рік тому +2

      Can you elaborate?

    • @heat_death7
      @heat_death7 Рік тому +42

      @@marcellomoore9755 replacement level players i.e players who are worse than starter quality but are still backup level (3rd or 4th string in this case) at the running back position are more productive, ON AVERAGE than that of your replacement level receiver thanks to many factors. As well as recivers having longer careers and fewer injuries on average, this means that receivers who make a lot of money will likely make more than similarly, or in this case far more talented, runningbacks.

    • @patrickledonne5547
      @patrickledonne5547 Рік тому +10

      ​​@@marcellomoore9755 a simple explanation. Imagine production and the value of that production rated on a scale of 1 to 10. He is saying you can draft a replacement RB late or pull a RB off the free agent heap and find one who will perform to a 5 or 6 where the average late round WR or FA scrap heap WR will perform to only a 3 or a 4. In such a case you should pay your star WR and replace your star RB with a late pick or cheap free agent. Very oversimplified, but that's what he's saying

    • @azaril0
      @azaril0 Рік тому +3

      Its because the value of replacement players (rookie rbs) are massively surpressed though

  • @sean-lucshanahan9140
    @sean-lucshanahan9140 Рік тому +720

    They need to be paid on an incentive/production based format for their rookie years. It’s when they are the most productive. It makes sense that their rookie contracts are set up differently

    • @ajkareem5685
      @ajkareem5685 Рік тому +16

      Yeah then teams would just give them less guarantees.

    • @sean-lucshanahan9140
      @sean-lucshanahan9140 Рік тому +30

      Also true. I mean in general this is a rookie contract issue. If it means they get paid more off the bat with guarantees… is any other position arguing this? There just needs to be something that’s production based to take care of the day 2 and 3 guys.
      This is an nflpa issue - I don’t feel like any other position group would be upset about a change to help RB’s

    • @Luvisrage420
      @Luvisrage420 Рік тому

      I been saying this for a while

    • @eunit8899
      @eunit8899 Рік тому +2

      They need to realize their position has become devalued. It's unfortunate but thats it.

    • @newjumpcityjosh9333
      @newjumpcityjosh9333 Рік тому

      @@eunit8899OR they can stand in solidarity with each other as workers to set better conditions for rookie backs that are the primary engine of the offense.

  • @geminipanda2631
    @geminipanda2631 Рік тому +2332

    I’ve always said a team is better off investing into the offensive line over a RB

    • @chrisuncleahmad789
      @chrisuncleahmad789 Рік тому +290

      The NFL has turned into a glorified 7-on-7 drill
      Teams might as well bring back the run and shoot offense.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +20

      @@chrisuncleahmad789 Facts

    • @esoteridactyl
      @esoteridactyl Рік тому +60

      I think most teams would. There are very very few great linemen though.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +29

      So basically you just want teams to just pass the ball every play?

    • @onenationunderground2360
      @onenationunderground2360 Рік тому +219

      @@maskedman5657 with a great line u can use anybody as running back and have a solid run AND pass game.

  • @unc54
    @unc54 Рік тому +282

    The problem is that even with your proposed solution it still just makes more sense to replace RBs once the rookie deal is over. After all, the biggest factor that caused the RB market to crash was the lack of production from RBs on their second contracts.

    • @newjumpcityjosh9333
      @newjumpcityjosh9333 Рік тому +18

      True but all the reason more for Rookie backs to fight for better contracts since there is no guarantee past that.

    • @yaboytroy357
      @yaboytroy357 Рік тому +6

      I’ve also thought about taking quarterbacks into account. There’s 15 QBs with contract at or above the franchise tag. If a team were to use the tag on someone like Herbert who’s new average cap hit would be around 50 million, then they’d save 20m a season on the cap. That’s another starting caliber QB you could sign under the cap and you didn’t even need to blink twice about it. It would render the salary cap useless.

    • @KevonDaDon
      @KevonDaDon Рік тому +8

      Right it’s really all Gurley and Zeke fault mostly and kinda on CMC a little bit

    • @JuwanBuchanan
      @JuwanBuchanan Рік тому +13

      @@KevonDaDonZeke fucked over the Running Back market with his huge contract and that was the single straw for teams to pay RB’s high salary contracts unless you are a generational talent like Adrain Peterson or Barry Sanders.

    • @brycehoward4139
      @brycehoward4139 Рік тому +1

      @@JuwanBuchananDerrick Henry is also a generational talent

  • @mylesr9096
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    5 AM, getting up for an early shift with my breakfast and the Film Room. Never change Brett.

    • @crittoneida958
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      When I see that kollmann YT notification I get so happy

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      ​@@crittoneida958weird...

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      Get your money bro!

    • @fortyforfree
      @fortyforfree Рік тому +2

      Second shift, just woke up at noon. About to have breakfast before work. How’s lunch ?

  • @LarsB
    @LarsB Рік тому +281

    As a European, I love Brett for his upload times

    • @Saltiren
      @Saltiren Рік тому +14

      As an insomniac in Washington (where Brett filmed this!) I also appreciate Brett for his upload times

    • @aitorrodriguez6888
      @aitorrodriguez6888 Рік тому +1

      Same bro 😅

    • @VurtAddicted
      @VurtAddicted Рік тому +5

      As a European, I love Brett because gives europeans a chance to understand football

    • @jluchette
      @jluchette Рік тому

      As American, I put these on and if I fall asleep? It’s a perfect watch with my morning coffee. If I don’t, I consider it an early start on the day.

    • @GregoryCunningham
      @GregoryCunningham Рік тому

      As an intelligent person, I don’t like Brett manipulating his audience into believing it’s a great idea to underpay athletes.

  • @dabbingtoast7743
    @dabbingtoast7743 Рік тому +34

    The very nature and value of the position just always makes you last as a monetary priority.
    -Better to throw the ball to a receiver due to depth of target.
    -Your production falls off faster than any other position on the field.
    -Your success is largely predicated on how good your offensive line is.
    I honestly believe nothing short of short term deals totally excluded from the salary cap is going to do it.

    • @damianpresha9833
      @damianpresha9833 Рік тому

      Can the QB be successful longterm with a poor offensive line ?

    • @dabbingtoast7743
      @dabbingtoast7743 Рік тому +1

      @@damianpresha9833 Not relevant because you can compensate for QBs. Quick throws, screens, moving the pocket, chipping pass rushers to buy time, taking snaps from shotgun to create more distance, etc etc.

    • @borax3030
      @borax3030 Рік тому +6

      @@dabbingtoast7743 And a stout RUNNING GAME is a mediocre qb's best friend. Not just to keep defenses honest but those precious quick throws and screens you mentioned. And as a last line of defense for qb's as a blocker. If you are going to pay them pennies as a rb don't use them for anything else, because that's asking them to work off the clock.

    • @dabbingtoast7743
      @dabbingtoast7743 Рік тому +4

      @@borax3030 Nope. We’ve seen this time and time again. All you need is a passable running game because the threat of being able to run the ball, even at a mediocre level, is all you need to do to get defenses to bite on play action. The myth of needing an elite running game to help your offense is simply that. A myth.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Рік тому +3

      @@borax3030 Not even stout. You just need the consistent *THREAT* of a running game. The Bills offense was humming well in previous years built on mostly pass scripts. But when they needed to run the impact was mostly not on their RBs but Josh Allen as a power runner. Even with Kyle Shanahan's schemes prior to having CMC, he just has RB depth of small guys who can hit the hole in outside zone. The rest of the offense with Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle and Juzcy do the heavy lifting. Even with McVay's last SB run Cam Akers what whatever. But having Cooper Kupp, Odell and Higbee was their bread and butter.

  • @digitalstatictv
    @digitalstatictv Рік тому +55

    In the last 5 years, of the 10 teams playing for the Super Bowl, I'd argue there's only 2 RBs who're really big parts of the offense: Joe Mixon (who was carried by the passing game) and Todd Gurley. 2 of those teams were led by the large investment in Sony Michel + the 1st in CEH that didnt matter. Otherwise it's the Eagles committee carried by Hurts + the OL and random dudes like RoJo, random 7th rounder Pacheco, Darrel Williams off the street, and Raheem Mostert bouncing off random practice squads to have a dominant playoff run.
    Why would you bother with RBs when the successful teams arent?

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +1

      Dude you need to quit sponsoring this BS you seen one time in that stupid graph. You're not accounting for the obvious...which is the regular season. And if you recheck your facts probably alot of these teams had good RB production that got them there

    • @otaviofrnazario
      @otaviofrnazario Рік тому +19

      You can go even further and still have much of a points. Patriots, last three rings: James White, LeGarrette Blount, Rex Burkhead. Pretty much one, two season wonders

    • @pfeilspitze
      @pfeilspitze Рік тому +5

      @@maskedman5657 But was it production from elite, star RBs? Or was it production from generic RBs with a good line?

    • @damianpresha9833
      @damianpresha9833 Рік тому

      The successful teams don't want a lead back that's why but even they still run the football.

    • @borax3030
      @borax3030 Рік тому +1

      @@otaviofrnazario With Tom Brady at QB. How many of those are there?

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    • @coreyhutchinson09
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      Hell yeah, honest reviewing homie. Appreciate you

    • @BrettKollmann
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      Thank you for the honesty!

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  • @J240RB25
    @J240RB25 Рік тому +46

    Brett is incredible with the ads. He’s probably the only creator I see doing them where it’s enjoyable to watch the ad as well as the video lol. The one about seatgeek with third eye blind was incredible.

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  • @gustavosaid6549
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    As a Brazilian, I've just come back from a party, it is almost 6am, but I'm here for Kollmann 's video

  • @markmamola7167
    @markmamola7167 Рік тому +79

    I don’t think NFL owners want to pay people more money

    • @andrasszabo1570
      @andrasszabo1570 Рік тому +6

      Yes, but they're obligated to by the CBA.
      Along with the salary cap, there's also a salary floor.
      As long as you own a team, you should spend money on a winning team rather than just waste it to piss RBs (and other players and fans) off.
      If you're in it for the fame, your name will be associated with a winner.
      If you're in it for money, the brand of your team will be bigger, so you can sell it for more money down the line.

    • @ajkareem5685
      @ajkareem5685 Рік тому +1

      @@andrasszabo1570what??

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      @andrasszabo1570 Рік тому +1

      @@ajkareem5685 Do they speak English in What?

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      Dude that wasn’t problem here lmfao

  • @johnlionel9453
    @johnlionel9453 Рік тому +58

    brett uploading these videos at almost 2 am reminds me of me finishing an assignment 3 hours past the due date and then turning it in

    • @j2398
      @j2398 Рік тому

      It was timed.....you can time uploads

    • @Dailymemes9000
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      Icing on the cake is when you get a good grade. Feels good man. Feels good...

    • @kaphizmey6229
      @kaphizmey6229 Рік тому

      i don’t know why, but your pfp really compliments the energy of your comment

  • @pieterbassie85
    @pieterbassie85 Рік тому +21

    i like the honesty about the add read, im not even american and still watched it to support your content. Looking forward to the season and the content that you will bring with it, its much appreciated, even in europe ;) Keep doing your thing brother.

    • @foome36
      @foome36 Рік тому +1

      Same here :)

  • @JustinCarter
    @JustinCarter Рік тому +92

    What about the rookie issue? They'll still want to keep drafting rookies instead of capping. Taylor is upset on the last year of his rookie deal not his cap year.

    • @ajkareem5685
      @ajkareem5685 Рік тому +7

      But in the same breath he has a future HOF guard blocking for him which be gives zero credit. Team game

    • @B2Roland
      @B2Roland Рік тому +34

      @@ajkareem5685 Who says he gives him zero credit? Guards get paid. RBs don't.

    • @TheBHNetwork
      @TheBHNetwork Рік тому +8

      @@ajkareem5685 Tf are you on about?

    • @Raptorman0205
      @Raptorman0205 Рік тому +5

      @@ajkareem5685 Tell me you haven't actually watched this channel's content without actually saying it.
      Brett has done more content talking about line blocking techniques than literally any other YT or TV network I've ever seen. The man gives all the love for linemen.

    • @frandavis1990
      @frandavis1990 Рік тому

      ​@ajkareem5685 nelson has been spoken about at a high level since his rookie year

  • @WalterWhiteFootballSharing
    @WalterWhiteFootballSharing Рік тому +1

    Tyler Allgeier I just realized is the main beneficiary of Bijan's arrival. Without him, he'd be ground to a pulp 300 carries a year on 950,000$ a year over 4 years. With Bijan, hes gonna take the load, Tyler will be a GREAT change-up who doesn't eat 300 carries, and hits free agency as a peak player in 3 seasons. By then his blocking and receiving will be way past any draft pick. Rookie RBs even great ones aren't complete NFL backs. Maybe Bijan is close but most can't learn pro level blitz pickup, chip blocking, and route running in college.

  • @TheMelnTeam
    @TheMelnTeam Рік тому +21

    I suspect this cap rule would mean QBs get franchised and bonus'd to shave cap rather than RBs, because teams could funnel them enough money to keep them happy w/o murdering their cap. QB contracts are insane, so foisting a big % of their money into "bonus" that doesn't count is more strongly incentivized.

    • @daniellowe6116
      @daniellowe6116 Рік тому +3

      Precisely. This becomes an incredibly powerful tool for teams to pay players without impacting their cap, which means they'll be incentivized to do it for the most expensive positions. You can only tag 1 player per year, so it's almost always gonna be QBs, OTs, DEs and WRs getting tagged and signed like this

    • @terranceramirez4816
      @terranceramirez4816 Рік тому +1

      That’s not necessarily a bad thing tho, since what’s really breaking the game of football isn’t rookie RBs giving 80% of the production of veteran RBs with 8% of the cap hit, it’s elite level rookie QBs giving 80% of the production of elite level veteran QBs with 8% of the cap hit. That’s basically the NFL equivalent of up down up down left right left right A B, which is clearly evidenced by the fact that every SB in the rookie wage scale era has been won by either: a QB on his rookie contract, Tom Brady taking less than market value, the Rams sabotaging their entire future by effing dem picks, or alien freak of nature Pat Mahomes.

    • @doomtho42
      @doomtho42 Рік тому

      I’m not necessarily advocating for or against any particular position - I haven’t given the issue/this proposal sufficient consideration to have an opinion yet - but I would just like to point out that adding a restriction which denies QBs eligibility for this sort of bonus structure would be trivial. Unlike most other positions, there is virtually no ambiguity when it comes to determining positional eligibility at QB (with the one possible exception of Taysom Hill).

  • @Ixis04
    @Ixis04 Рік тому +37

    Brett, you never fail to feed into my insomniac-induced impulses. Love ya brother!

  • @geraldjacobs7824
    @geraldjacobs7824 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for putting the ad read at the end. Normally I skip through them, but I sat through it bc you were nice about the placement

  • @_SeanCraft_
    @_SeanCraft_ Рік тому +3

    Y'all should keep up with the Bootleg Podcast during the season. Week by week your favorite picks, worst losers and best winners, etc. I love the nerdy stuff. It gives me something to listen to while i'm at work where i'm still actually learning. There so much i've learned about the game of football from You the past years and now you can add E.J. to the mix. I'm only 18 and i have so much to learn. There's not many guys like you two on youtube, it is quite literally the perfect channel for me. Thank you Brett and Thank You E.J. Y'all are awesome! Keep up the great work.

    • @_SeanCraft_
      @_SeanCraft_ Рік тому

      In addition, I never knew how much detail truly went into playcalling, scouting, salary caps, etc. You have truly taught me everything that I know about football today. Thank you again!

  • @cnking27
    @cnking27 Рік тому +2

    The process of how this issue came to light always fascinated me. I remember through the early 90s the consensus was that a star running back was almost as valuable as a star quarterback. Teams had survived and won with above average guys like Otis Anderson with the Giants, but most of the time the back was a huge focal point of the offense and I think the Dolphins and Marino being unable to win a ring kind of reinforced that. Then the Shanahan zone scheme happened, and Terrell Davis went from being a 6th round pick to almost breaking the rushing record. And then Olandis Gary replaced him and ran for 1,000 yards in less than a full season, then Mike Anderson replaced him and almost hit 1,500 as a rookie, then Rueben Droughns ran for 1,200 yards before they drafted Clinton Portis and he was a sure 1,500 yards each year. And all that happened at the same time as Ditka's debacle of trading his whole draft for Ricky Williams. I feel like all of that happening at the same time built the narrative a lot more than even the proliferation of advanced stats has.

  • @ChumblesMumbles
    @ChumblesMumbles Рік тому +5

    An interesting proposal. The downside would be the OTHER benefit of free agency, the cap, and the franchise tag - competitive balance. The cap and the tag exist to punish teams that want to hang onto their good players beyond their rookie contracts. It's meant to hurt so teams are incentivized to let players get to real free agency and get their fair value which helps bad teams get good.

  • @gunver79
    @gunver79 5 місяців тому +2

    Do we see the "kickerization" of the running back position? Where it is deemed not really difficult so that you can always get another one?

  • @NotForLongNFL
    @NotForLongNFL Рік тому +9

    If I were a GM, here’s how I’d pay a top-tier RB contract. In this case, $52m over 3 years.
    I’d Use fully guaranteed salary up to the point where the team feels comfortable, along with vesting guarantees in later years.
    Next, I’d use an Option Bonus in year 2 to get the rest of the way there, along with void years to spread it out. The key is that there’s no real long-term guaranteed money at signing.
    Let’s say we’re the Raiders, and we want to work out a deal with Josh Jacobs. He wants McCaffrey money, so $16m AAV.
    We know from history that Jacobs probably only has 3 seasons of really high quality football left. Our contract extension will be three years, with 2 void years if we need to prorate the option bonuses. That takes him through his age 27 season.
    Assuming we have the cap space, the contract will look like this.
    Y1 | $14m total, $8m Full-GTD salary, $6m March roster bonus
    Y2 | $16m total, $8m Full-GTD salary, $8m Per-Game roster bonus. Also, an $4m option bonus is exercisable here in March. Doing so raises Jacobs cap number to $17 m and forces the Raiders to exercise the option or release Jacobs before free agency, as he’d have a non-exercise fee.
    Y3 | $18m total, $8m Injury-GTD salary vests to F-GTD if Jacobs is still on the roster for Week 1. This is coupled with $10 million in per-game bonuses. This forces the raiders to make a decision before the season. (Cap number is $19m w/ O.B.)
    Void 1 | $1m option bonus proration
    Void 2 | $1m option bonus proration
    Assuming they want Jacobs on the roster, year one is essentially fully guaranteed. The Raiders can get out of this contract after year one with $8 million in dead cap. If they keep him for a year two and pay him more, the dead cap number lowers to $3m going into year 3.
    If the Raiders keep him for year 3, injury protected salary vests into fully guaranteed salary in September. This gives the team time to see if he’s still worth keeping around, and if he’s not, they can let him go at $3m in dead money cost.
    In this scenario, Jacobs gets his money, and never exceeds 8% of the cap. Other than year three (when he’d already have earned $34 million over 2 years), there is constant leverage for Jacobs as The Raiders have to pay him or release him before free agency. This is only aided by the point that the dead money decreases as the contract goes on.
    This is 3 years/$52 million that includes $16 million fully guaranteed at signing. There is no signing bonus. This contract is good for the Raiders, and it’s good for Jacobs.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Рік тому +5

      How are you going to feel when you're paying Josh Jacobs to stand on the sidelines in street clothes because he's injured? Because that's coming. You might feel okay about the 80% you get out of your RB on his rookie deal, but the contract for Jacobs will still sting.

    • @NotForLongNFL
      @NotForLongNFL Рік тому +1

      That’s the risk teams take when handing out large contracts, which is why they usually don’t give them to running backs.
      This is something I came up with in 20 minutes. A real negotiation for a contract this large would take at least a day.
      Honestly, a real front office would probably play hardball and have way less tied up in injury protection. This contract was drafted with the idea of trying to be fair to running backs

    • @dannyquilter8366
      @dannyquilter8366 Рік тому +2

      ​@@VinceLyle2161you can't use injuries as an excuse for not giving a contract in football. Literally anyone can get killed at any moment. WRs, OL, basically every position group gets several season ending injuries every week. But for some reason RBs are viewed as the only ones to ever get hurt

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Рік тому

      @@dannyquilter8366 You just explained why I absolutely can use injuries as an excuse for not giving a contract, and even if you didn't, RBs look to get contracts at the moment their prime is almost up. Unless you think Josh Jacobs is going to be the next Emmitt Smith, his best production years are behind him.

    • @howdareyouexist
      @howdareyouexist Рік тому

      lmao terrible idea

  • @larrywoten2788
    @larrywoten2788 Рік тому +2

    Well when you run primarily 4-5 wr sets, it kinda makes it easier to see if maybe you have a TE who can maybe be used as a short yardage back for the couple of times that its needed.

  • @allaktion
    @allaktion Рік тому +3

    I think the issue with your proposal is that the issue is this kind of cap change is that it makes so much more sense to give this non cap money to a qb potentially saving an extra 10 million in cap relative to using the tag on a running back. It is also worth noting that you may see a lot of "rushes for at least 1 yard" as a expected to be earned bonus.
    I think the heart of the problem is since running backs can produce so early in their relatively short nfl careers that teams will run talented backs into the ground with the intention of getting another back in the draft to do the same thing.
    One potential solution would be allowing players to get out of rookie contracts based on number of carries. If a player is in the top 20 in carries 1 of their first 3 years they can hit the market as a RFA if they so choose. This means that teams running a running back by committee or giving a wide receiver some caries can do this with no change but teams building around running backs will have to pay them before their careers are half way over. This has the added benefit of potentially encouraging load management for younger backs allowing them to have longer careers.

  • @WhitePillMan
    @WhitePillMan Рік тому +23

    Factor is awesome. One of the few yt sponsors that’s actually any good. Thanks for moving the ad to the end. Actually got me to watch it.

  • @harrygarris6921
    @harrygarris6921 Рік тому +25

    There are a lot of positions on a NFL team where even the star players at that position don’t make much money. I think that RBs feel entitled to large contracts just because they used to get them historically, but the game has changed. Their position doesn’t provide that much value anymore.

    • @ernestfrigelj2876
      @ernestfrigelj2876 Рік тому +1

      Their position provides a lot of value just that they are easier to replace

  • @bigfat4172
    @bigfat4172 Рік тому +2

    A funny part of these types of videos are all the opinionated comments that dont even respond to the points made in the actual video. It's literally as if the video never even happened for them.

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain Рік тому +3

    I love this idea. It clearly incentivizes teams to give their guys chances rather than how most incentives in sports work where the team will try to limit their numbers.

  • @Zinger3030
    @Zinger3030 Рік тому +2

    Apparently every team should have a 5 headed monster of 2 great fullbacks and 3 great running backs that share the downs at a fair salary. Running backs take a massive beating and suffer permanent damage in most cases over the course of a very short career. If the star running back isn't a thing anymore, stop taking them high in the draft if you aren't going to pay them.

  • @marvinchittenden424
    @marvinchittenden424 Рік тому +3

    God I love when Brett brings up the nuances of contracts

  • @jjlopez9733
    @jjlopez9733 Рік тому +2

    Never gonna feel bad for someone making millions while our service men make 500000 a year

  • @TheTeremaster
    @TheTeremaster Рік тому +3

    I never got the "moneyball" aspect to it. A premium RB makes sense financially. You can pay 49mil all up and get the Titans rushing attack, or you can pay 63mil and get the Texans rushing attack.
    I know what one i'd take 100 times out of 100

  • @kevincrown1
    @kevincrown1 11 місяців тому

    I’m not a regular Factor consumer, but I was recently studying for the final level of a financial exam and the last 3 week push was something like 10 or 12 hours per day of uninterrupted studying. I was stressing about the exam, food, etc. My wife got me several Factor boxes as gifts and they absolutely saved me. Even just having nutritious ready-to-eat food and not having to worry about meal prepping or eating crap for a month leading up to my test was an enormous help. So yeah the food is pretty good and I’d say generally worth it for the convenience

    • @BrettKollmann
      @BrettKollmann  11 місяців тому

      It's definitely a service that is built for exactly that scenario!

  • @WFM
    @WFM Рік тому +3

    Lol and I thought I would be bored waiting for my 6am flight

  • @galleste
    @galleste Рік тому +1

    The Dallas Cowboys and I mean Jerry Jones gave Ezekial Elliot a $90 million contract. Once he got the contract, his seasons just turned mediocre at best for what he was getting paid. Look at Saquon Barkley, his 1st two years in the NFL he was injured pretty much before the season started. Miami drafts Achone and he weighs around 188 lbs????? I believe the owners should be looking at big brusing RB's that we used to know as fullbacks. These small fast RB's today are great but few make it all season. Owners are owners..they don't want to be Jerry Jones plugging in $90 million for an RB who ends up on his way to Palookaville.

  • @majintv24
    @majintv24 Рік тому +3

    Making rb contract incentive based while being able to keep the cap lower for the position makes the most sense as long as theres rules put in place to protect the players i expect the nflpa to make some negotiations to do something after this seasons

    • @2639theboss
      @2639theboss Рік тому +1

      I mean the actual solution is the PA growing some balls, and actually having a coordinated strike to fix some of the utter BS that is the NFL contract. Only sport with nonguaranteed contracts, stupid crap lack the franchise tag, its just a crappy contract that benefits no one but owners.
      Not fans, not players, not staff, not media, not GMs.

    • @deadprecidents
      @deadprecidents Рік тому

      @@2639thebossThis. The NFLPA is a joke. They agreed to a 17 game season which IMMENSELY benefits the owners, and helps SOME players but at the expense of more injuries and wear and tear which will shorten careers. The fact that you can tag someone not once, but TWICE with no real recourse is absurd. How they have that is a joke. It literally lets team owners strong arm players and minimize their leverage. You can just extend a rookie contract and they have minimal guarantees and massive uncertainty because of the nature of the sport. Half of the contracts should be guaranteed, at minimum. Maybe 60-70%. I disagree with fully guaranteed contracts because NBA players are total divas and some will literally sit and do nothing and collect a check to get a trade. That shit shouldn’t be allowed either. You should have to play out the thing you agreed to play out. Not pout because you want to be somewhere else.

    • @deadprecidents
      @deadprecidents Рік тому +1

      @@2639thebossJust to put it simply, if the franchise tag didn’t exist. Not a single one of these running backs up for extension wouldn’t have one. Because even if they might be washed by year 3-4, someone will be willing to pay for a top5 player in their position for two PRIME years. The franchise tag completely neutralizes all their leverage, and also severely diminishes their prospects because of the nature of the position beyond that. And teams can just fucking collude to do that.

    • @zoomcat5138
      @zoomcat5138 Рік тому

      @@2639thebossyou’d think the sport with the least guarantee that you’ll make it to the next play without getting hurt, wouldn’t have the least guaranteed money for its players.

  • @CastroJr92
    @CastroJr92 Рік тому

    You hit the nail on the head I've been saying that the only way to make this work and to actually do right by the running backs is for there to be some kind of cap exemption in place so your suggestion is really good.

  • @jeremypaton4300
    @jeremypaton4300 Рік тому +8

    Hi Brett - Great video! Two crucial things that I think you are missing:
    The first is that, just because a RB is good in his first few years, that often fails to translate to later years, resulting in horrible long-term contracts. The teams that signed Gurley, Bell, and Zeke to long-term deals all certainly regret it; deals like Mixon’s and Cook’s also look pretty bad. In the NFL, you have to pay for the production you expect, not the production you got, which makes RB contracts much riskier than contracts to other positions. The question is not “Is Saquon valuable to the Giants?” but instead is “Will Saquon be valuable to the Giants over the next four years?” where the latter question is a lot riskier for RBs than for other position groups.
    The second point is that, on your proposal, I think that poorer owners would not like that. The ability to spend money that does not go against the cap will enable rich owners to retain their superstars at will while the cash-poor owners won’t be able to compete. Therefore, I think the suggested solution would not be approved by the cash-poor owners.

    • @TheEloheim
      @TheEloheim Рік тому

      I agree with this 100%. I believe there was another salary cap problem that Brett suggested solving by making certain spending not count towards the cap but people pointed out the owners wouldn't go for it because it takes away their excuse for not spending more and more on the team (being the cap). Also I have to believe there could be a way to specify who counts as a running back either via just % carries or even % carries + catches behind the line of scrimmage or even # of hits taken (although if anything quarterbacks would out-qualify many running backs for those stats so that could be an issue).

    • @BrettKollmann
      @BrettKollmann  Рік тому

      I could see the cash poor owners not liking having to pay even more money than they already do, but honestly over the last 15 years the gap between the top and bottom of the owner pool has gotten noticeably large. Some of these teams are going to have to be sold or they will just get dusted over and over again. They just don’t have the cash to compete with the Walton family.

  • @mattjacobs260
    @mattjacobs260 Рік тому +1

    Great video, enjoyed hearing an actual solution rather than the problem like we’ve all heard recently. Also the ad roll at the end was a great idea and got a like and follow.

  • @cisco01real1
    @cisco01real1 Рік тому +19

    Yup and once that said running gets close to his yardage goal the team will start not calling plays for him lol

    • @owenh4
      @owenh4 Рік тому +8

      If the bonus from hitting the yardage total wouldn’t count against the cap, then they have no reason to stop them. The head coach’s job is to win games, not to fiddle with incentives, so they will do what is necessary to win. The owners and GMs aren’t calling the plays on the field

    • @rhodierider402
      @rhodierider402 Рік тому

      @@owenh4yeah, “just don’t involve him in the offense” is a terrible idea. First of all, we’ve already had these incentives, and it doesn’t happen.
      Free agents would be very, very unwilling to sign for incentives with a team that has intentionally avoided their players hitting it.

  • @tylermajor__
    @tylermajor__ Рік тому

    Loved this breakdown. I also appreciate you saving the ad til the end! Amazing ad read too. Has me interested in Factor fr

  • @Dailygrilling
    @Dailygrilling Рік тому +6

    It's not correct to compare running back pay to other positions to say they are underpaid.
    It's like a pediatrician saying they are underpaid bc they make less than ortho surgeons. Even though they are both doctors.

    • @neonwhitea.1548
      @neonwhitea.1548 Рік тому

      Yeah I agree running backs aren’t underpaid, they are paid exactly what the market agrees they are worth

    • @seanwilliams7655
      @seanwilliams7655 Рік тому

      I mean, it's all relative. RBs are underpaid compared to what they were making 25 years ago. So it's more like pediatricians used to make what ortho surgeons make, but now they make 1/5 that.

    • @neonwhitea.1548
      @neonwhitea.1548 Рік тому

      @@seanwilliams7655 if there service are no longer what they were once worth I don’t see how that’s a problem

  • @halvey8518
    @halvey8518 Рік тому +1

    Watched through the whole in video ad. Thanks for making high quality content and keeping a serious flow during a serious topic.

  • @skeletony2812
    @skeletony2812 Рік тому +7

    The day i worry about a millionaire making another million or not will be the day i join them.

  • @danielresendes
    @danielresendes Рік тому

    I'll be honest, Brett. And I know not everyone is gonna agree. I prefer this format for ads rather than the mid-video stuff. I usually skip that vigorously, but because you decided to do it in the end instead, I gave it all my full attention. Kudos to you, sir

  • @davidbrazell5179
    @davidbrazell5179 Рік тому +7

    Its crazy that Algier was a top 10 back and Atlanta still takes a back in the first round.

    • @milliondollarsoup75
      @milliondollarsoup75 Рік тому +1

      Not that crazy when you realize Atlanta isn't a well run organization

    • @ryanoliver5669
      @ryanoliver5669 Рік тому +6

      They took a TE like 4 overall and didn't even use him last year. They're a joke franchise

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Рік тому +1

      Except the back they took can also line up in the LoS and play receiver. So even if he doesn't get crazy touches as a running back, he can still add value as a potential receiver and create plays that way. If you have seen how RBs like CMC get to play in the passing game because they can line up in the LoS, they are more valuable than pass catching backs strictly from the back field.

    • @davidbrazell5179
      @davidbrazell5179 Рік тому

      Yeah them not using KP right is killing me

    • @bonerpants7203
      @bonerpants7203 Рік тому +1

      It is crazy, but we have our freeman/Coleman duo back in spades

  • @plaidchuck
    @plaidchuck Рік тому +2

    Why pay em when it’s a passing league. The league died with the tuck rule and when it decided brady would be the face of the league.
    Now every year you have some 60+ point super bowl that ends on a lame ass field goal or stupid ref call.

  • @calwere
    @calwere Рік тому +10

    Im gonna say it. Its impossible for me to feel bad for dudes making more money per year than most of us will in 30 years.

    • @deadprecidents
      @deadprecidents Рік тому +5

      After taxes (especially if they aren’t a first rounder) most of these guys will have to work later in life. You can get a lot of value out of 2nd and 3rd round RBs who aren’t making boatloads and will by no means be set for life off a rookie deal (which might be close to all they get). Even first rounders since they are usually later are unlikely to be that favorable of a position. They aren’t a kicker or QB. RBs shelf lives are the lowest in the league.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Рік тому +1

      Truth.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Рік тому +1

      @@deadprecidents Even so, the money gives them options 99% of us don't have, and there's extra privilege because most of these guys stopped paying attention in school the moment their talent was recognized. Their short career gives them a big leg up on the rest of us.

    • @calwere
      @calwere Рік тому +2

      @@deadprecidents 3rd round rookie deal RBs will still make more in 5 years than most people do in a lifetime.

    • @eduardonava6284
      @eduardonava6284 Рік тому +1

      Just say you hate the free market and move on.

  • @billm7035
    @billm7035 Рік тому +1

    No winning SB team has paid more than $3m to a RB in the last decade. The NFL free market has the RB position priced correctly. Whether u like it or not

  • @Deeplycloseted435
    @Deeplycloseted435 Рік тому +3

    RB’s have been the highest payed player on EVERY team for about 85 of the 100 years the NFL has existed. The game has changed. Nobody else complained all those years, because the RB carried the load. They DONT now. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @TheChrismeg34
      @TheChrismeg34 Рік тому +1

      Bro your wrong. Even when running backs carried the team their salaries were on par with league average and in fact the top running backs still got paid less than the top wide receivers linebackers or quarterbacks.

    • @Deeplycloseted435
      @Deeplycloseted435 Рік тому

      @@TheChrismeg34 WHAT are you talking about? ALL teams and salaries are on the internet going back ALL the way. An example? 85 Bears, legendary all-time defense. Walter Payton? $650K/yr. Not ONE player on that defense making more than $350K/yr.
      So either I’m retarded and can’t read, or I’m not wrong. This isn’t an opinion. All you have to do is look.

  • @brentjackson6966
    @brentjackson6966 Рік тому +1

    If I may suggest, make the RB cap free - there's the incentive for a team to get the best one they can, and pay for the best too.
    How to measure a RB (so teams can't game it)? Percentage of touches behind the line of scrimage. eg. If 90% of a player's touches are behind the line of scrimage, then that player is 90% RB and 90% of that player's salary is cap free. If the player then passes the ball, it counts towards the cap (so teams can't game the cap by calling their Mahomes a RB and trying to not count his sallary towards the cap).

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain Рік тому +3

    The problem is that the league thinks they can keep getting good runningbacks for cheap, but if they keep treating them like this, the amount of young talented kids playing that position will drop significantly.

    • @chrisuncleahmad789
      @chrisuncleahmad789 Рік тому +1

      The NFL basically wants everyone to throw the ball 70 times a game
      It’s arena football

    • @pfeilspitze
      @pfeilspitze Рік тому +1

      Well, nothing says a team *has* to have a RB, just like most teams don't have a FB any more. The game might just move even more to QB runs and WR sweeps and such.

    • @howdareyouexist
      @howdareyouexist Рік тому

      not really

  • @ArchWolfVegasEditor
    @ArchWolfVegasEditor Рік тому +2

    Anyone else Remember Jay Ajayi ? Dude was a top 3 running back for one season then just kinda dipped

  • @metalmythology6282
    @metalmythology6282 Рік тому +6

    Honestly I hate that this is even a conversation, its quite simple in the nfl you are given money off a salary cap,and your value is deemed by replaceability not value to the team. The amount you are paid is gonna change yearly at ebery position. Also stop acting like anyone is currently underpaud in the nfl, most of their skills have no value wothout how incredible the nfl does at advertising the product.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Рік тому

      Well said. A more honest statement would be "relatively" underpaid.

  • @caiden7800
    @caiden7800 Рік тому

    The way you introduced the add at the end of the video made we watch the entire ad. Thank you for not shoving it in our face.

  • @jgray2718
    @jgray2718 Рік тому +21

    It's a shame, but the real problem is that RB is an "easy" position to play in the NFL. Many rookies can do it very well, because there's more physical demand but less mental demand, so they can potentially adjust very fast, as opposed to offensive line or safety or QB. And that's just how it is - it's a saturated market with lots of competition and only a couple of spots per team, so smart RBs are going to diversify their skills. If they can run and catch and block and return kicks they're going to be more valuable, and they're eventually going to have to do that stuff because their position is inherently prone to competition.
    I do think the low-paid RB problem is at least somewhat self-correcting. If they're underpaid relative to production, teams should sign RBs who can catch and use them as h-backs and slot receivers. They should sign multiple good RBs to reduce wear and tear on the starters. Basically, if they're going to Moneyball this position, RBs should use that to their advantage to diversify their skillset to increase their value. Because if teams aren't going to pay a premium price for premium production, no amount of contract chicanery is going to matter in the end. If some enterprising team decides to carry 7 RBs and uses their incredible athleticism to make some kind of devastating quick passing game for the price of 2 receivers, other teams will see that and copy them. If that doesn't work, then RB just isn't a valuable position and will be paid as such.
    It used to be offensive linemen not getting enough money for their production, and teams realized they could win by having an incredible line that just mauled everyone. D linemen also didn't get enough money. Currently TEs and RBs are underpaid, and it's going to take some team dominating with a bunch of TE and RB production _(KC is a good bet)_ to get everyone to pay their RBs.
    This will probably be an unpopular opinion, but RB production has been overvalued since the beginning of the NFL. Most great RBs had a great line in front of them and took advantage. Obviously there are differences in RB quality - Walter Payton was a monster on bad Bears teams, Barry Sanders did a lot of his damage without much help, etc. - but you can get similar results with a better O line and weaker RB, and the O line will help the pass game, too. Teams didn't really understand the fungibility of RB production and overpaid for a long time. RB has been a glamor position when it really shouldn't have been. They're currently underpaid, and I'd be shocked if the teams _weren't_ colluding against them, but the market will correct.

    • @VinceLyle2161
      @VinceLyle2161 Рік тому

      I can't like this comment enough.

    • @seanwilliams7655
      @seanwilliams7655 Рік тому +1

      I disagree about rbs being overpaid/overvalued. They were very valuable to the offenses of the time. Back then, the running game was mostly about overpowering the guy in front of you. So big fullbacks and big back would just bludgeon the defense into submission. They'd force gaps in the defense for the runner. Now, it's more about movement and schemes creating those gaps through misdirection and causing the defense to hesitate. Also, passing games were way less complex back then. It was rare to see teams using a single back three wide set on 2nd and 4, but it's so common now that a lot of teams have that as their base set.
      One thing is for sure though, I don't think we're every going back to the days of Jerome Bettis and Eddie George type runners carrying the ball 300 times a year.

    • @TheChrismeg34
      @TheChrismeg34 Рік тому

      Everything you said is false except for the collusion part. A glamor position, seriously?? It's one of the least glamorous positions along with center. As a running back you beat your body into submission until your "washed" and out of the league. It's definitely collusion to make the game seem "safer" to eventually eliminate certain positions all together. It'll literally be 7 on 7 in the next 10 - 20 years and most will except it because they don't really know the game.

    • @TheChrismeg34
      @TheChrismeg34 Рік тому +1

      And you act like rookie running backs literally just run the ball. Do you know how complex blitz pick up is for running back?? No matter how good your oline blocks if your rb doesn't know pass pro it'll get your qb rocked. We see it every week. They have to know fronts, protections, if that then situations on the fly, routes, formations packages, etc. And you better not get injured while taking contact every play

    • @TheChrismeg34
      @TheChrismeg34 Рік тому

      And your getting the running back position confused with wide receiver. That's the most expendable position in football. I don't even know how this running back thing is a debate

  • @mcdrums87
    @mcdrums87 Рік тому +2

    One idea I heard to help the situation is to let franchise-tagged players force themselves a second franchise tag year. It's not a *great* long-term solution, but it would guarantee future money for these players in case of injury (or a team just losing interest), AND it would give GMs an incentive to sign them to *something* to avoid having to pay a franchise tag they don't want to.

    • @pfeilspitze
      @pfeilspitze Рік тому

      Oh, I like it! More nuanced than just raising the tag amount or similar, and has a way out of it for the team too.

  • @pac1841
    @pac1841 Рік тому +8

    I do think rookie contracts should just be shorter across the board tbh

    • @nytro8027
      @nytro8027 Рік тому +3

      This is such a good take. Why not make it 3 years instead of 4 or 5? Makes it a lot more bearable for a guy who isn’t a starter to try a different team while still being young and healthy. I think this would be a good change all around

    • @pac1841
      @pac1841 Рік тому +1

      @@nytro8027 Yeah the whole reason for rookie contracts was to avoid JaMarcus Russell situations and not discourage teams from drafting a player because of cap space.
      I think 2 years with a three year option would avoid those problems while being better for players. It would also reduce the value of rookie contracts which personally I would like.

    • @thegreatest9173
      @thegreatest9173 Рік тому

      It should be 2 years with higher pay for RB’s

  • @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
    @ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 Рік тому +1

    You can thank Bumziekiel Leliot for this being a completely dead issue

  • @TSchoch91
    @TSchoch91 Рік тому +3

    As an overnight worker your upload time is amazing hope to see more

  • @jorgecolorado998
    @jorgecolorado998 Рік тому

    I believe that while this works out for the most part, the main part of the issue is what you tackled in the beginning, that good rookie RBs coming into the league are able to produce 80% of what top tier RBs can do for 5% of the pay. I think shortening the rookie contract of RBs seems like a solution to counter that part of the problem as well, since the first 5 years of a RB's career is usually when they're at their best. Shortening the rookie contract by a couple of years (make it 2 or 3 years for RBs) would allow them to be paid earlier when they're still at their physical peak. Also like the solution you proposed, and think these 2 combined would elevate RBs to where they need to be in the market. Great video!

    • @judoka.
      @judoka. Рік тому +1

      did you not see why he said giving shorter contracts is a bad idea?

  • @huckfin1598
    @huckfin1598 Рік тому +6

    It’s about replaceability. If I can get the same production or close to it from anyone else is it really YOU doing the production or is it the O line and the offense? And you just happen to be there. These RBs are smelling themelsev too much

  • @lvn4x
    @lvn4x Рік тому

    I remember reading an article years ago about Gary Patterson’s defense at TCU.
    The article mentioned that several of his defensive stars, including edge rushers, were running backs in high school (the position where the stud usually plays at that level) who bulked up and learned the position.
    As far as earning potential in the NFL, Patterson was doing those kids a favor.
    Same goes for high school backs who converted to corner or receiver in college.
    Usually, it’s a moot point, since only a small fraction of college players even make an NFL roster, much less stay on long enough to earn free agent status.
    Nevertheless, I imagine the few who make it that far are glad they switched positions in college.

  • @davidhochstetler4068
    @davidhochstetler4068 Рік тому +3

    PFF had it right for years ahead of this. Teams finally caught up

    • @chrisuncleahmad789
      @chrisuncleahmad789 Рік тому +2

      How? By literally turning football into a 7-on-7 drill?

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому

      PFF had what right exactly?

    • @Nichrysalis
      @Nichrysalis Рік тому

      ​@@maskedman5657 OP is saying cheap and young running back by committee is a strategy that has been supported by analytics for decades, but teams were quite stubborn and used a featured back system for a long time.

    • @neonwhitea.1548
      @neonwhitea.1548 Рік тому +2

      @@chrisuncleahmad789that was the rule committee that did that, pff just noticed

    • @davidhochstetler4068
      @davidhochstetler4068 Рік тому +1

      @@maskedman5657 the value of RB when it comes to contracts and draft value vs other positions

  • @AaronMichaelLong
    @AaronMichaelLong Рік тому +1

    Moneyball isn't the problem, it's creampuff rules for passers and receivers. Running backs have always had short contracts, it's just that you didn't have QBs and WRs playing into their late 30's.

  • @ThePadi94
    @ThePadi94 Рік тому +3

    Nice idea, but where is the reason to implement it as a RB holding out didn't really matter as an unknown rookie is just as productive as seen with Gordon/Ekeler, Bell/Connor,...

    • @howdareyouexist
      @howdareyouexist Рік тому +1

      yup, the fact is rb primes start pretty much the moment they enter the nfl. by year 6 their production typically falls off hard

  • @chipskind7
    @chipskind7 Рік тому +1

    Of course I’ll watch the ad at the end for Brett!

  • @gummybearazzl5320
    @gummybearazzl5320 Рік тому +21

    I'd be up to trying some of those meals but I don't think I've go out of my way for it. lol Anyways, love this vid and always appreciate your view/opinion on the RB situation. I really hope they do something for them when they give so much of their own health for the sport to be treated like trash so easily.

    • @BrettKollmann
      @BrettKollmann  Рік тому +11

      RB is a tough business. I really do feel for these guys.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +3

      Don't let most casual NFL fans here you say that. They just wanna spill you some BS about how RBs are just not worth paying

    • @howlandsmovingcastle1795
      @howlandsmovingcastle1795 Рік тому +1

      I really like Brett's idea, but I think owners and GMs will forever forth balk at the idea of long-term contracts for vet RBs no matter the price tag. I think it'd be cool to see short-term, high salary vet contracts (not exploitable rookie ones like Brett alluded to). 1-2 year contracts at $18-20m+, as long as they're still producing like stars and contributing to wins they keep re-upping and getting top money like stars at any other position. I know they deserve the security of long-term deals, but the reality of the modern NFL makes that too unrealistic for the foreseeable future. And I worry if they don't set a precedent for the top guys getting top dollar, we'll see the current RB blueprint be applied to other positions as the game changes over the years (tbh I think the seeds have already been planted for corners)

  • @HashtagWhattaNerd
    @HashtagWhattaNerd Рік тому

    As someone who absolutely fucking hates ads, thank you for caring about my viewing experience. I appreciate it more than I can put into words.

  • @chrisuncleahmad789
    @chrisuncleahmad789 Рік тому +5

    The NFL has turned into a glorified 7-on-7 drill
    At this rate, teams might as well bring back the run and shoot offense.

  • @dweazy_wade6578
    @dweazy_wade6578 Рік тому

    Thanks for coming up with another solution for this problem.

  • @seda_11
    @seda_11 Рік тому +3

    12:06 A win for everybody.. except the owners, who are plenty happy with being to underpay players due to a broken system.

    • @harrygarris6921
      @harrygarris6921 Рік тому

      They’re just paying other positions instead of RB. I don’t know why RBs feel entitled to massive contracts. TEs have been playing football for less money than even running backs since forever and you don’t hear TEs whining about it.

    • @seda_11
      @seda_11 Рік тому +1

      @@harrygarris6921 Well the proposal in this video would be having owners pay more money per season because some of the RB money wouldn't be counting against the salary cap.
      Edit: I misunderstood your comment lol my bad but the point still stands as to why owners wouldn't like this.

    • @harrygarris6921
      @harrygarris6921 Рік тому

      @@seda_11 yeah it just seems like unnecessarily catering to RBs because their feelings are hurt. Like I said there are other positions on a NFL team that play for even less than running backs and no one’s proposing we make a cap exception for them. Times change. Is it UNFAIR to newspaper journalists because the internet made most of their jobs redundant? Nah it’s just how it goes.

  • @axeltandberg290
    @axeltandberg290 Рік тому

    Loved the add read deal!! You are crushing it!!

  • @FastEddeh
    @FastEddeh Рік тому +1

    I think the biggest problem (which could help general cap situations and be a net positive for the situation as a whole) with this proposal is the mechanism will be used on QBs more than any other position to get cap hits back into the mid 20s and low 30s for franchise QBs while paying them like mahomes money.

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 Рік тому +3

    Brett you’re really lucky I’m still awake at 4:50 AM.

    • @jluchette
      @jluchette Рік тому

      I’d say you’re lucky to have Brett Kollman-tier content to watch for free on YT. However you want to look at it, I guess. Brett’s grateful for his viewers I’m sure. But we should let him know he’s appreciated by us as well!

  • @joshuahefner
    @joshuahefner Рік тому

    A side effect of your franchise tag proposal would be that it incentivizes teams to wait and tag a star player rather than work out a long term deal early. I'm mostly thinking of QBs. For example, the Bengals might not want to work out a deal with Burrow now that will take up a large amount of cap space when they can wait until his rookie deal expires, franchise tag him, and then sign him to a deal that would not count nearly as much against the cap. Writing that out, I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing.

  • @AkiraIsMissing
    @AkiraIsMissing Рік тому +10

    It’s crazy how someone can carry their team, but will get treated with disgrace and disrespect because of their position

    • @chrisuncleahmad789
      @chrisuncleahmad789 Рік тому +2

      That’s Roger Goodell’s NFL: a sport where apparently only QB’s matter

    • @Zlittlepenguin
      @Zlittlepenguin Рік тому +1

      There aren’t any good NFL teams being carried by a RB though lol. The titans are probably the best example, and they barely qualify as a playoff team.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Рік тому

      @@Zlittlepenguin And Derrick Henry is a very unique RB who plays the bellcow back role in this modern pass happy NFL.

    • @BrutalSho
      @BrutalSho Рік тому

      ​@chrisuncleahmad it's called a CBA dawg

    • @chrisuncleahmad789
      @chrisuncleahmad789 Рік тому

      @@Zlittlepenguin the NFL has become flag football. Just throw on every play.

  • @1865Highst
    @1865Highst Рік тому +1

    I have such mad respect for a content creator that presents reasonable and considered solutions to complex problems, instead of just emotionally charged rhetoric. God, I love this channel.

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 Рік тому

      Wouldnt it still make sense to just hire the new cheap guy

  • @onenationunderground2360
    @onenationunderground2360 Рік тому +4

    Awwwwwww, the poor little multi-millionaires.
    Edit: had to tune the world's smallest violin.

    • @GregoryCunningham
      @GregoryCunningham Рік тому

      I fixed it for you;
      Edit: Had to hold the worlds smallest penis to go pee.

    • @neonwhitea.1548
      @neonwhitea.1548 Рік тому

      I know ever one is acting like these guys are being used or it’s slave labor while they are making 10x the medium US salary while being a 7th round rb who doesn’t play

    • @tylerstratton8353
      @tylerstratton8353 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, the players who have the highest likelihood of CTE of any pro athlete. Does that put it into perspective?

  • @colelarkin7106
    @colelarkin7106 Рік тому +1

    Remove the hard salary cap and end the existence of the franchise tag the hard cap is a tool to deflate all players value look at rodgers taking a pay cut and burrow coming out and saying he might negotiate a contract less then his value to have cap room for other players about to hit free agency and the franchise tag is a exploitative tool used by owners that takes away the right players have to negotiate with the market of other teams there for deflating their value even more as a player more valuable then the franchise number will always be tagged like top running backs

  • @Malas13
    @Malas13 Рік тому +4

    It's funny how when players screw owners - NBA, it's not an issue. But when owners screw players, it comes big deal. In the end it's all business

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +2

      That is the ignorant thing I've ever heard

    • @Malas13
      @Malas13 Рік тому

      @@maskedman5657 which part ? NBA or NFL ?

    • @metalmythology6282
      @metalmythology6282 Рік тому +5

      ​@@maskedman5657Explain how they are wrong, UA-camrs especially always side with players to an obnoxious extent, when players want money it's just "getting their bags", but when owners want profit they are "greedy"

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +2

      @@metalmythology6282 If you watched the video you can clearly hear Brett address both sides and can understand both sides. That's why he offered a solution. Clearly didn't watch it

    • @metalmythology6282
      @metalmythology6282 Рік тому +5

      @@maskedman5657 13 minutes in and I haven't actually heard Brett explain how the players are worth more of the salary cap and aren't as replaceable as they are paid. He just uncritically claims they are worth more, they actually just aren't because if they were worth more teams would step in and attempt to pay them, but even on the open market they get nothing

  • @trevorwright1061
    @trevorwright1061 Рік тому +1

    Brett I like your stuff, but this would be a bad idea. Cash rich franchises could abuse this, while smaller market teams would be punished. One of the best things about the NFL is that we're not dominated by teams in big cities on the coasts. The AFC is dominated by the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals right now, let's keep the parity between small and big market teams in the NFL.

  • @mistert4533
    @mistert4533 Рік тому +3

    This all started with Le'veon Bell. He gave RBs a bad reputation and other RBs followed suit. Holding their teams to ransom. Then when they do go to another team, they fail. Bell and Gordon to note. This is why teams realised they could get someone else for much cheaper.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому +1

      How did this start with Leveon? He wanted to compensated more for his production what are you talking about?

    • @koolkitties8552
      @koolkitties8552 Рік тому +1

      ​@@maskedman5657Bell turned down 14mil a year from the Steelers and now regrets it.

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому

      @@koolkitties8552 And apparently you forgot about all the rumors about how much he was actually guaranteed

    • @mistert4533
      @mistert4533 Рік тому

      @@maskedman5657 he held the team to ransom and refused to play. Then he flopped when he did get a big contract with another team. Melvin Gordon tried the same and failed. Zeke then refused to play but got his contract. They seem to be phasing him out with Pollard now. These RBs are refusing to play until they get what they want. So teams are learning they are better off without and this devaluating the RB position. So what are you even on about?

    • @maskedman5657
      @maskedman5657 Рік тому

      @@mistert4533 I don't know what you are on about. Because I clearly explained it

  • @ForeverDayGreen
    @ForeverDayGreen Рік тому +1

    While I get that rookie contracts of varying lengths get messy quick, I honestly believe it is the most effective option to achieve "fair" pay. RB career length is shorter and their rookie contract length should reflect that. As you mentioned the biggest problem for top level RBs is, that they aren't negotiating a contract for their prime years but at best the end of their prime after their rookie contract ends.

    • @bolbyballinger
      @bolbyballinger Рік тому +1

      Okay, let's play GM.
      Why the fck would I draft a rb under that plan?
      I can get a receiver or linemen or something else that'll stay cheap and guaranteed to stay with us for longer.
      All shortening rookie rb contracts does is change the draft math and get them picked even later.

    • @Zlittlepenguin
      @Zlittlepenguin Рік тому

      @@bolbyballingernot only that, but if I were a GM and I drafted a RB in the 5-7th round, he’d be off my team when his rookie contact’s over and I’d draft a new one. I don’t care if the contract is only a year long. If you want more than $10 then bye.
      I don’t understand why people don’t get this.

  • @AnthonySkatz
    @AnthonySkatz Рік тому

    I was thinking about an idea that was essentially this, but I'm not privy to the business end of the NFL to word it in a coherent manner like you did. Bravo.

  • @prime_comando
    @prime_comando Рік тому +1

    Interesting. Had no idea about this. Makes sense tho. RB lifespan is so short.

  • @YungMayo
    @YungMayo Рік тому +1

    Hit me hard when I realized that Bijan PLUS Allgeier are making less than Chubb, while guaranteeing that this is true for 3 years MINIMUM is crazy. It's the right strategy, despite sacrificing such an early pick. But early RBs lately, and especially guys like Bijan (Saquon, Zeke, CMC tier imo) have a fantastic track record, so you KNOW you just got a Top-8 guy. I believe in that "age 26" cliff to a degree, but it's skewed because of how easy it is to simply replace a guy on a 2nd contract with a cheaper late round RB who will give you similar production. You don't hit 26 and forget how to run the ball. I'll end by saying that just a few years ago I was a pretty big "RBs don't matter" guy, but it's gone too far. RBs matter, and teams are starting to overlook the value that a truly great back brings to your squad.

  • @dustinjones1346
    @dustinjones1346 Рік тому

    Another idea is to just structure rookie contracts for backs. They're usually most productive and less injury prone in their rookie contracts. Pay the rookies more base salary. Add significant bonuses if they have more than 200 carries. More than 250, 300, 350, 400. Add incentive bonuses for rushing yards, yards from scrimmage, touchdowns. Make it so backs on rookie contracts aren't guaranteed a ton of money, but production pays them significantly

  • @MegaBearsFan
    @MegaBearsFan Рік тому

    I wonder if adopting the salary cap rule change proposed here might actually lead to a perverse incentive for NFL teams to actually throttle the production of RBs in some cases. If "likely to earn" bonuses are immune from the cap, but "unlikely to earn" are not (even if only 50%), a team might pull an RB out of games late in the season if he's crossed the "likely to earn" threshold and is approaching the "unlikely to earn" threshold, so that they don't have to pay him the bonus.

  • @ottoboutin5607
    @ottoboutin5607 Рік тому

    First of all, thank you Brett for framing this not as "GMs are being mean to RBs" but actually acknowledging that, unfortunately, with the salary cap paying a top running back hurts your team building. We need to acknowledge the truth to fix it.
    That said, although I like your solution, my gut told me it wouldn't solve the problem. I didn't know why. Now after reading the comments, people figured it out for me. I still think the length of contracts is a problem. I like one suggestion that incentives are baked into rookie contacts too.
    I have my own likely flawed solution here. The comments can tell me what's wrong with it, together we can fix this!
    My solution involves another type of incentive, namely incentives that shorten the rookie contract. It could either be based on stats (yards, touches which would favor RBs but need different incentives between skill positions, OL, DB, etc) or on snaps played (which could probably not have to differ based on position). This could cut down rookie contracts to two or three years for immediate starters, and in a RB by committee case at least they aren't run into the ground before the contract is up. This also has the benefit of adding incentives to sign a mid level veteran to allow a rookie time to develop on the bench. In addition, many second contracts can become mid level contracts. I suspect this can grow the NFL middle class, although I could be terribly wrong about this.
    Admittedly, I don't know why GMs, owners, and QBs would agree to this. QBs would come off rookie contracts when they normally would get paid anyway, and GMs and owners lose some cost control and regular control mechanisms. But I do think it's good for the league, maybe that's enough. And maybe they get a little cost control on the second contract of some players.
    Also, Brett, if you read this, you're the best football analyst/film junkie out there. If ESPN ever offers you at Pat McAfee contract, it is 200% deserved and then some. My only wish is that you could be cloned so I could have a Kollmann video every week.

    • @JJ-fg2wd
      @JJ-fg2wd Рік тому

      I wouldn't put QBs into the group who should hate this. NFL rules have become so QB-friendly that a defender will get flagged for bumping a QB 1 second after they've released the ball. QBs take comparatively far less punishment than RBs. That's why QBs get such big 2nd contracts in the first place; aside from the fact that it's the most important position on the field, they also have an exponentially longer career expectancy when compared to RBs

  • @KlassicLoL
    @KlassicLoL Рік тому

    Waking up at 3am and seeing a Brett video to watch while eating breakfast is a pleasant surprise

  • @thedarkknight9153
    @thedarkknight9153 Рік тому +1

    Hey Brett, I love your videos. When are you going to do the divisional breakdowns? They were like an hour for each division last year with another guy but I haven't seen them this year.

    • @BrettKollmann
      @BrettKollmann  Рік тому +2

      those are all over on the bootleg football channel :)

    • @coreyhutchinson09
      @coreyhutchinson09 Рік тому

      He literally says that at the beginning of the video, my guy

  • @derekp3820
    @derekp3820 Рік тому

    One thing I have thought would help with this would be a change to how the franchise tag works. In my mind, don’t make the franchise tag position specific. Make it more skill position group specific. So instead of franchising high end running backs for the cost of the top five highest paid running back average, you average the top 15 running backs, wide receivers and tight ends. It makes the tagging a harder choice and can hit free agency earlier. It’s not perfect but the giants would have been a lot less likely to offer that tag with saquon. Or if they did offer it, he at least would get something closer to 18 million rather than 10.

  • @influentia1patterns
    @influentia1patterns Рік тому

    The easiest fix to the RB problem is do the rookie contracts differently than the rest.
    1st rounders get 3 years plus 4th year option, 2nd rounders get 3 year option, 3rd through 5th round get 2 year contract and 6th rounders or later or UDFAs get one year contracts.
    You can also make a higher minimum for RBs and much higher vet minimum (and perhaps much lower vet minimum for those over age 28 to give older RBs a chance) Make the cost of replacing a RB high, make RBs not qualify for compensatory picks, things like that.
    The quicker contract means teams have to sign
    You could also have the league pay some kind of bonus to the position that doesn’t count against salary cap.
    There are tons of things you could do but NFL PA and league rules are made up by the uncreative lawyer types who maybe don’t have economics background or understand how changing incentive changes behavior.

  • @GusErazo6063
    @GusErazo6063 Рік тому

    Thanks Brett for not putting that ad in the middle of the vid, would’ve been a mess