I think in an ideal world, companies that make online-only games with centralized servers should be forced to open-source when a game shuts down, or at the very least, release the server hosting and infrastructure tools to the community. There's a reason TF2 is still one of the most-played games on Steam despite it not receiving a major update since 2017.
@@cheesefriesandgangsigns I think part of it is that they view all other online games as competition, even including their own abandoned ones. So from that perspective, leaving the game alive *does* lose them money, because one player continuing to play an old game is a player who could *instead* be playing the new one (the one with regular seasons, battle passes, cash shops, currency, etc). It's just an endless cycle of trying to squeeze every last penny out of players, killing the game, and then starting over.
@@poke_ yep same shot happens with food in supermarkets, they’d rather cut off access to their good or service than reduce its value by giving it away for free
I feel this very strongly about my favorite game TF2 and its completely community run competitive scene I have confidence that if the game ever went offline there would be community run private servers in no time
as a casual TF2 player when I was in my teens that moved onto competitive & collegiate Overwatch since 2016, I've always been interested in competitive 6s and Highlander! No idea where to start though, any suggestions?
You have so many tiny references to games and hobbies that are such big parts of my life it's an extra layer of enjoyment in every video. Keep being great. Melee is forever.
Found this channel from the Tom Scott video, decided to give some of the videos a watch :) This video really speaks to me as someone who is part of the online community for the game Unreal (not Unreal Tournament, the ORIGINAL 1998 Unreal), which has probably around 100 or so people left who play it online. It really doesn't help that a few months ago Epic took the game down from all online stores so it has effectively become abandonware. But yeah, Epic shut down the servers and abandoned Unreal long ago, and it has only survived through the community making their own patches and hosting their own master servers. I like to think we're still keeping it alive.
Fantastic video. Checked out this channel after the Tom Scott video popped up in my feed, was pleasantly surprised to see I had already watched your “Schmovement” video
Wow, 3rd video of yours I have seen back to back and each one I liked more than the last. Your humor and use of the right clips at the right time to make jokes and/or further your point are really on point. The Mario Baseball shoutout in particular really tickled me. You deserve way more subs and views. This was a funny and thoughtful analysis of a really pertinent topic in the gaming industry. So glad that the youtube algorithm brought me to you via a Tom Scott second channel sillypost.
This reminded me of golden eye speedrunning and how lookdown really fractured that community (apparently, I havent ever played it just watched a youtube vid about it)
Very good video. The point about developers being able to shut down games at any point is especially relevant now with the recent announcement of Rumbleverse's shutdown. It doesn't really matter how unique a game is, if it is launched as a live service there's always that risk that low playercounts and poor revenue will cause the execs up top to make years of a developers hard work inaccessible. I think an area thats surprisingly unexplored in keeping games relevant despite how old it is, is modding. Games like Skyrim and Smash Bros. Brawl should have "died" years ago, but due to their incredibly large and passionate modding scenes, those games will continue to see new life until those modders eventually move on. Same reason why TF2 is still one of the most played games on steam despite 15 years passing and very few updates for ages; its because theres always some new map, mode or whatever a modder can think of to make the game feel fresh. Maybe Unreal Engine 5's ease of access and rampant adoption into developer pipelines will have the same effect Source Engine had, where players will be able to easily mod their favourite games because the games engine is easily publically available and highly documented. We'll have to wait and see though.
Love the video love the music you used :0 I didn't know that the deep blue chess game made people think that chess was about to become a dead game that's wild Yesterday I saw a video "We can't let meta get away with this" about how Meta just killed Echo Vr, one of the most beloved vr games with a passionate thriving community and they won't even allow peer to peer servers continue to play This reminds me of an old post where someone asked if they should get into Smash 4 or Melee, they wanted to choose the game that would last the longest. One reply said that even if humanity was hit with an apocalypse and living in caves you will still find a setup of a crt and modded wii running super smash brothers melee for the nintendo gamecube
Saw the Tom Scott video, saw your second video, decided to watch your videos, and then watched all 3 latest videos back to back. Really good content, scratches that itch I have for that cozy video-essay type of content. Please keep up this type of content. I would love to watch a video like 'The Greatest Underdog Story in Melee History' with commentary (doesn't mean I didn't like the commentary-less video, it was amazing how a video without commentary kept me watching for 30 minutes even though I had no interest in melee, and literally made me get up off my chair in that final match). Please keep doing this.
Good video, wished you talked about both starcraft brood war and starcraft 2 because the prize pool and days streaming in sc2 went down this year and has been a general decrease over the years and pro sc2 players are moving to broodwar thats almost 25 years old and broodwar never had balance changes and the meta is still changing
A multi-field study into esports occurred at Mount Royal University a while ago. It found the largest appeal of esports is that all players (professional or not) have access to the same gameplay experience, unlike physical sports where only pros can access professional-grade play-spaces and equipment. This makes it far easier for fans to invest in professional gameplay, because they directly understand the pro's experience. It also found the largest threat to esports was the nature of every "sport" being owned and created by single corporations. No corporation owns the rules of professional soccer, no corporation can change the rules of professional baseball. Likewise nobody can suddenly release "Baseball 2" and completely disrupt the established baseball enterprises. The fluid and fickle nature of video games makes esports far less predictable than regular sports, which makes them difficult to invest in and grow. Esports just can't seem to build the sort of long-running stories and communities that physical sports have developed.
People will say 'dead game' about a fighting game you can play in a net tourney every night for money. Amazing stuff. Games can die. Anyone rooting for it, no matter how you feel about a game, sucks.
Ok so I love smash bros lots and lots, so this video appeals a lot to me. However, I think you may have an over-reliance on using Smash as an example/point. This is great for me, since I love smash, but for the wider gamer audience you’re targeting, the frequent use of smash as a talking point could be grating. Your videos are very funny and well made, though. I just wanted to offer a minor critique since I love your videos so much and want your to succeed. Hopefully my advice is helpful and not just UA-cam commenter bullshit. Still a cool video.
I wouldn’t worry too much about it - I try to follow as many scenes as I can, but Melee is what I know best, so it will always be what I default to for examples. I think this is representative of who I am as a person, so things will change if my personal expression does, but otherwise I think of this channel as having like 20% Melee DNA. Videos that focus on a singular individual or event are where I will do more to highlight and dive deeper into other games/communities. Thanks for the comment!
babe wake up new resprit video
i’m awake
Literally makes my day to see a fellow rav enjoyer in the wild
@@tedc8021 I love rav too
I think in an ideal world, companies that make online-only games with centralized servers should be forced to open-source when a game shuts down, or at the very least, release the server hosting and infrastructure tools to the community. There's a reason TF2 is still one of the most-played games on Steam despite it not receiving a major update since 2017.
@@cheesefriesandgangsigns I think part of it is that they view all other online games as competition, even including their own abandoned ones. So from that perspective, leaving the game alive *does* lose them money, because one player continuing to play an old game is a player who could *instead* be playing the new one (the one with regular seasons, battle passes, cash shops, currency, etc).
It's just an endless cycle of trying to squeeze every last penny out of players, killing the game, and then starting over.
@@poke_ yep same shot happens with food in supermarkets, they’d rather cut off access to their good or service than reduce its value by giving it away for free
@@yurplethepurple2064or empty apartments because they're waiting for wealthier people to move in from out of state.
I feel this very strongly about my favorite game TF2 and its completely community run competitive scene
I have confidence that if the game ever went offline there would be community run private servers in no time
6s is eternal at this point
100% tf2 has been around long enough i would be surprised if this didnt happen
as a casual TF2 player when I was in my teens that moved onto competitive & collegiate Overwatch since 2016, I've always been interested in competitive 6s and Highlander! No idea where to start though, any suggestions?
@@aestheticsock8772 rgl newbie mixes
@@aestheticsock8772 they also have a server called “TF2 coaching center” that should be linked in that server, once you get a grasp on the basics
The ending to this video is awesome. Whole thing is awesome but, "At a minimum, it only takes two to tango. So, hey let's dance" is such a good line.
bro, you make the most raw vids for how small you are, you are going places
You have so many tiny references to games and hobbies that are such big parts of my life it's an extra layer of enjoyment in every video. Keep being great. Melee is forever.
I'm so glad you made that Tom Scott update video. This channel is great!
In love w a ghost in the music…… taste
Good thing all my favorite games are single player products instead of multiplayer services
Buddy is on the up and up. Content is insane, keep it up. Shortest 8 minute video ive ever watched!
You really got me with the competitive tic tac toe bit haha! Great video, long live Melee!
absolutely banger music choices and editing. really cool stuff
he's done it again
Thank you so much for releasing the music list(you have great taste). Great video and have a nice day
NEW RESPRIT VID, let's go!
Found this channel from the Tom Scott video, decided to give some of the videos a watch :)
This video really speaks to me as someone who is part of the online community for the game Unreal (not Unreal Tournament, the ORIGINAL 1998 Unreal), which has probably around 100 or so people left who play it online. It really doesn't help that a few months ago Epic took the game down from all online stores so it has effectively become abandonware. But yeah, Epic shut down the servers and abandoned Unreal long ago, and it has only survived through the community making their own patches and hosting their own master servers. I like to think we're still keeping it alive.
love the San Diego big boom fireworks incident. the only birthday cake i have a picture of is the one that got dropped while in the box.
Another banger video. Keep it up, these videos are legitimately some of the best content on this website.
Pogtent fr. Another RESPRiT certified banger
Fantastic video. Checked out this channel after the Tom Scott video popped up in my feed, was pleasantly surprised to see I had already watched your “Schmovement” video
This was a great video!
Your vids are seriously awesome man, keep it up
Wow, 3rd video of yours I have seen back to back and each one I liked more than the last. Your humor and use of the right clips at the right time to make jokes and/or further your point are really on point. The Mario Baseball shoutout in particular really tickled me. You deserve way more subs and views. This was a funny and thoughtful analysis of a really pertinent topic in the gaming industry. So glad that the youtube algorithm brought me to you via a Tom Scott second channel sillypost.
you almost got me with that nyt article, i wouldn't put it past them to think the 765-state game of tic-tac-toe isnt solved
This reminded me of golden eye speedrunning and how lookdown really fractured that community (apparently, I havent ever played it just watched a youtube vid about it)
Very good video.
The point about developers being able to shut down games at any point is especially relevant now with the recent announcement of Rumbleverse's shutdown. It doesn't really matter how unique a game is, if it is launched as a live service there's always that risk that low playercounts and poor revenue will cause the execs up top to make years of a developers hard work inaccessible.
I think an area thats surprisingly unexplored in keeping games relevant despite how old it is, is modding. Games like Skyrim and Smash Bros. Brawl should have "died" years ago, but due to their incredibly large and passionate modding scenes, those games will continue to see new life until those modders eventually move on. Same reason why TF2 is still one of the most played games on steam despite 15 years passing and very few updates for ages; its because theres always some new map, mode or whatever a modder can think of to make the game feel fresh.
Maybe Unreal Engine 5's ease of access and rampant adoption into developer pipelines will have the same effect Source Engine had, where players will be able to easily mod their favourite games because the games engine is easily publically available and highly documented. We'll have to wait and see though.
You’re the most underrated channel I know of
Always glad to see Dinger City representation
YO it’s the goat of melee and jazz, Kyle “dizzkidboogie” Athayde
How do u only have 20k subscribers ? that channel has some insanely high quality and work put into it
Really terrific stuff, wow
Opening with my favorite Baba Is You song started me off with a smile. The rest of the video was so good that the smile never left!
Nothing better then waking up to a great video
This is such a well made video
Came here from DarkviperAU vid. This was really good! 😁
great video! would love to see a whole video about communities that have taken on the development of their own games
Love the video love the music you used :0
I didn't know that the deep blue chess game made people think that chess was about to become a dead game that's wild
Yesterday I saw a video "We can't let meta get away with this" about how Meta just killed Echo Vr, one of the most beloved vr games with a passionate thriving community and they won't even allow peer to peer servers continue to play
This reminds me of an old post where someone asked if they should get into Smash 4 or Melee, they wanted to choose the game that would last the longest. One reply said that even if humanity was hit with an apocalypse and living in caves you will still find a setup of a crt and modded wii running super smash brothers melee for the nintendo gamecube
Another classic in the books, please keep it up :)
"it only takes two to tango"
pour one out for Guns of Icarus, my personal favorite dead game
Saw the Tom Scott video, saw your second video, decided to watch your videos, and then watched all 3 latest videos back to back. Really good content, scratches that itch I have for that cozy video-essay type of content.
Please keep up this type of content. I would love to watch a video like 'The Greatest Underdog Story in Melee History' with commentary (doesn't mean I didn't like the commentary-less video, it was amazing how a video without commentary kept me watching for 30 minutes even though I had no interest in melee, and literally made me get up off my chair in that final match).
Please keep doing this.
Another banger video
"Let's dance." o7
Banger video
Runescape will never die. Love the Spooky remix
honey wake up new RESPRiT upload
2:22 Why did you have to do it to em like this? Come on that Rubix cube kid will never live it DOWN.
I thought his Pog face was fun haha
@@RESPRiT It is fun but the second I saw it I was like *Don’t stand up son*
Great as always !
Great Video!
This slapped hard! Stay pegged gamers!
I like the title and thumbnail pivots 😉
Nice! Great video!
banger vid stay goated
This content is unreasonably high quality. Good job.
IMO for a head-to-head game, 3 people is the bare minimum to keep it alive, not 2. A third can watch the other two in a match.
Damn, im crying wtf
Amazing video, was captivated the entire time.
Good video, wished you talked about both starcraft brood war and starcraft 2 because the prize pool and days streaming in sc2 went down this year and has been a general decrease over the years and pro sc2 players are moving to broodwar thats almost 25 years old and broodwar never had balance changes and the meta is still changing
Great stuff as usual!
great video :)
Dont understand how you dont have 1+mil subs yet. This content is better than 99% off everything else posted on this site
Love the skill zone circle
RIP HON
Insanely good video my man
this video is so fucking CRAZY
Pog Vid
Xqc reacting less than a vtuber is such a funny bit
an ai vtuber nonetheless
I remember robocraft man…
Great vidoes
baba is you music 😊
Nah, Melee forever
A multi-field study into esports occurred at Mount Royal University a while ago. It found the largest appeal of esports is that all players (professional or not) have access to the same gameplay experience, unlike physical sports where only pros can access professional-grade play-spaces and equipment. This makes it far easier for fans to invest in professional gameplay, because they directly understand the pro's experience.
It also found the largest threat to esports was the nature of every "sport" being owned and created by single corporations. No corporation owns the rules of professional soccer, no corporation can change the rules of professional baseball. Likewise nobody can suddenly release "Baseball 2" and completely disrupt the established baseball enterprises. The fluid and fickle nature of video games makes esports far less predictable than regular sports, which makes them difficult to invest in and grow. Esports just can't seem to build the sort of long-running stories and communities that physical sports have developed.
Based
great vid :D
I just want Dirty Bomb back
yogi berra quotes, a man who proved his point by proving nothing.
"monetization BS"..felt that..
good vid
Nice
i really love ur videos as theyre melee propaganda :)
also its crazy to hear og inlovewithaghost music after so long...
epic
chess is awesome
People will say 'dead game' about a fighting game you can play in a net tourney every night for money. Amazing stuff.
Games can die. Anyone rooting for it, no matter how you feel about a game, sucks.
competitve tik tac toe community in shambles rn
Gotta say wobbling 100% was over centralizing. IC's didn't do any other punishes or combos, why would they? Wobbling is a guaranteed kill
Ok so I love smash bros lots and lots, so this video appeals a lot to me. However, I think you may have an over-reliance on using Smash as an example/point. This is great for me, since I love smash, but for the wider gamer audience you’re targeting, the frequent use of smash as a talking point could be grating. Your videos are very funny and well made, though. I just wanted to offer a minor critique since I love your videos so much and want your to succeed. Hopefully my advice is helpful and not just UA-cam commenter bullshit. Still a cool video.
I wouldn’t worry too much about it - I try to follow as many scenes as I can, but Melee is what I know best, so it will always be what I default to for examples. I think this is representative of who I am as a person, so things will change if my personal expression does, but otherwise I think of this channel as having like 20% Melee DNA.
Videos that focus on a singular individual or event are where I will do more to highlight and dive deeper into other games/communities. Thanks for the comment!
I love overwatch 😢
Are you calling Baba is You a dead game?!
Um, when did he do that
It was just the music, he didn't actually say that.
tfw you play csgo
Good video but didn't mention Titanfall 2 so mid video wouldn't recommend thank you
Great video!