Arc Length (formula explained)

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  5 років тому +301

    Minor picky mistake,
    *Please write "dL" instead of "dl".*
    Because when we integrate dL we will get L.
    While integral of dl is l.

    • @sairampatnaik1
      @sairampatnaik1 5 років тому +8

      Ok sir

    • @sairampatnaik1
      @sairampatnaik1 5 років тому +6

      @Tigc channel 2 why

    • @wikingandersson2561
      @wikingandersson2561 4 роки тому +1

      I have a question:
      Would it be possible for you to derive (show how on heavens earth) the formula of:
      Int sqrt (a^2-x^2) dx = x/2(sqrt a^2-y^2) - a^2/2(sin^(-1)(x/a))+c
      Hope I got it right. Found it in a table for a probkem I have but I am sooo lost in the integrationworld. Would be nice to see different derivations with some simple graphics on the board as well.
      Thank you sir, for your work, it is appriciated all over the world!

    • @luddelagerstedt6458
      @luddelagerstedt6458 4 роки тому +4

      dl also means decilitre :)

    • @sophiacristina
      @sophiacristina 4 роки тому +1

      What an amateur... Unsubbed >:(

  • @megathetoxic
    @megathetoxic 5 років тому +228

    2:07 "And now, here is the dL.."

  • @YourPhysicsSimulator
    @YourPhysicsSimulator 5 років тому +342

    Pythagoras is always here to solve our problems...

  • @tyronekim3506
    @tyronekim3506 5 років тому +46

    Very good explanation. I'm in disbelief that some people don't like it.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 3 роки тому +4

      Pathagorean’s!!! They don’t like anyone!!!

    • @faisalmohamed4595
      @faisalmohamed4595 7 місяців тому +1

      Maybe because there were no questions on the vid?!
      But the video is still great tho

  • @veilofmayaa
    @veilofmayaa 4 роки тому +44

    I can't tell you how happy I am to have come across your channel. Nobody has explained this concept as clearly as you have. It is so important to understand what the formula stands for and this is right on the money! Thank you so much!!

  • @weerman44
    @weerman44 5 років тому +69

    Love the intro. It's short and clear!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  5 років тому +9

      weerman44 thanks!!!!! It was done by Quahntasy!

    • @MarioPlinplin
      @MarioPlinplin 5 років тому +2

      I was about to say LITERALLY the same lol

    • @weerman44
      @weerman44 5 років тому

      @@MarioPlinplin Lol nice :D

  • @garysnider5342
    @garysnider5342 Рік тому +4

    It takes 7 seconds to skim the proof from the textbook. It took 7 minutes to understand the proof in this video. Absolutely worth it. Amazing job and thank you!!

  • @tsurutuneado5981
    @tsurutuneado5981 5 років тому +3

    I was searching for a video like this some weeks ago, so happy you uploaded it, thank you

  • @kylearby2988
    @kylearby2988 Рік тому +10

    You’ve helped me so much with my calculus class, you explain all of these complex subjects so well. Thank you!! I’ve subscribed!

  • @NinjaMartin
    @NinjaMartin 7 місяців тому +6

    So incredibly clear! Thank you so much for creating these fantastic videos ❤

  • @gordongorgy9148
    @gordongorgy9148 5 років тому +16

    That intro is perfect

  • @user-tg7bv1rk3k
    @user-tg7bv1rk3k 4 місяці тому +1

    Bro your video is so funny I kept smiling watching it - while learning a lot! Thanks!

  • @AnjaliSharma06
    @AnjaliSharma06 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing teachers like you make me love maths even more , thank you

  • @DeerPrince
    @DeerPrince 2 роки тому +3

    It's amazing that you explained in 6 minutes what my calculus teacher couldn't clearly explain in 1 hour.

  • @hikirj
    @hikirj Рік тому

    I absolutely love your videos man. You are the best math UA-camr I know and recommend you to anyone I can.

  • @gloystar
    @gloystar 5 років тому +8

    Very nice video bro. I remember I did the exact same derivation when I was studying calculus, but then realized this derivation is in fact incomplete, because the pits of (dy) are not necessarily equal in length, but the pits of (dx) are, and I saw text books use the mean value theorem in their derivations to overcome that.

  • @MrPeradjokic
    @MrPeradjokic 2 роки тому +2

    Good explanation and straight to the point. Thank you for the video!

  • @ZelForShort
    @ZelForShort 5 років тому +2

    Perfect timing. Self teaching my self line integration and this is a great explanation for part of that crazy formula int(f(x(t), y(t))√((dx/dt)^2 + (Dy/dt)^2) dt

  • @Kevin-cy2dr
    @Kevin-cy2dr 4 роки тому +2

    You sir, deserve a medal. Great explanation 👍👌

  • @jeanjulmis2347
    @jeanjulmis2347 Рік тому +2

    That was very clear and concise. The textbook sometimes gets very confusing. Now, I can go back and read the textbook again on this chapter.

  • @aidanowens8766
    @aidanowens8766 10 місяців тому

    You're awesome! I appreciate your enthusiasm!

  • @calistairene998
    @calistairene998 3 роки тому

    loves the explanation, short and clear

  • @zubmit700
    @zubmit700 5 років тому +3

    Could be fun with some arc battles.
    Also thank you for your videos.

  • @CPTsack
    @CPTsack 3 роки тому

    You explain this perfectly. Thank you!

  • @PhysicswithRoky
    @PhysicswithRoky Рік тому

    Now, I can solve any problem regrading this. You made the basics. Thank you.

  • @Bodyknock
    @Bodyknock 5 років тому +2

    Seems like a natural followup would be when the curve L is a function over time t from time a to time b (e.g. F(t) = (sin(t), cos(t)) in the cartesian coordinates to describe a circular path) and looking at the integral over dt.

  • @ButterDJar
    @ButterDJar 7 місяців тому

    thank you so much, i saved so much time by understanding in just 5 minutes instead of reading a 5 page long of contents inside my textbook.

  • @Randomguy-vl6gi
    @Randomguy-vl6gi 4 роки тому

    Nice work

  • @biswaruppramanik2007
    @biswaruppramanik2007 Місяць тому +1

    Wow, you are doing a great a job by making us understand complex topics like these.🙂

  • @adarbarandalgic2730
    @adarbarandalgic2730 2 роки тому

    Great explanation.

  • @light-qn2jb
    @light-qn2jb 8 місяців тому

    fantastic explanation

  • @hoodiedude4204
    @hoodiedude4204 5 років тому +10

    Haha I worked out the same formula when I did this for fun once. Showed it to my professor and he showed it to the whole class.

  • @emontrailers
    @emontrailers 5 років тому +1

    very good explanations

  • @ece_47_debajitpaul9
    @ece_47_debajitpaul9 3 роки тому

    Perfect explanation

  • @sardarmuhammad9254
    @sardarmuhammad9254 2 роки тому +1

    thank you for making this video .

  • @chyawanprash
    @chyawanprash 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, this is amazing!

  • @RSA_Shock
    @RSA_Shock 2 роки тому +1

    God I love your enthusiasm

  • @stevengaleano7759
    @stevengaleano7759 8 місяців тому

    You just saved me bro. I love you!

  • @SempatikBalkc
    @SempatikBalkc Рік тому

    best teacher ever

  • @omarraafat1228
    @omarraafat1228 4 роки тому

    U'r so simple i liked that soo much❤️❤️❤️

  • @hyojupark4360
    @hyojupark4360 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much!! you're a hero 💗💗💗💗👍

  • @serjanholder2053
    @serjanholder2053 3 роки тому

    Thank you! Such a clear explanation! Also, the ball in your hand reminds me of the Ood, an alien species of the sci-fi show dr. Who.

  • @RiteshNEVERUNIFORM
    @RiteshNEVERUNIFORM 5 років тому

    Your videos are addictive

  • @mrman5066
    @mrman5066 8 місяців тому

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  • @witsey6345
    @witsey6345 6 місяців тому

    Best teacher
    You helped me a lot thank you!

  • @m.f.3347
    @m.f.3347 5 років тому +6

    Lowkey flexing with the supreme 👀👀

  • @ajeetkumar5453
    @ajeetkumar5453 4 роки тому

    Thanks a lot bro for your help.

  • @Towl35
    @Towl35 3 роки тому +2

    This is the simplest way I've seen it explained!

  • @abhiramijayan1716
    @abhiramijayan1716 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much..much effective 👍 and very clear

  • @rob876
    @rob876 5 років тому +11

    Thanks for this. Your explanations are brilliant. There's another case when x and y are parameterised.
    e.g. if you have the circle defined by x(s) = r.cos(s), y(s) = r.sin(s) and you want the arc length between s = 0 and s = 2π
    dl^2 = dx^2 + dy^2
    dx = dx/ds ds = -r.cos(s) ds
    dy = dy/ds ds = r.sin(s) ds
    so dl^2 = r^2 (cos^2(s) + sin^2(s)) ds^2
    dl = rds
    L = r∫[0 to 2π] ds = 2πr
    Please could you show us how to calculate the arc length of an ellipse? ( x(s) = a.cos(s), y(s) = b.sin(s) )?

    • @professorpoke
      @professorpoke 3 роки тому

      To find the complete arc length of an ellipse find the quarter arc length (using all positive values), and then multiply it by 4.

  • @Amine-gz7gq
    @Amine-gz7gq 11 місяців тому

    You rock man !

  • @dimbanimvula3672
    @dimbanimvula3672 Рік тому

    Thanks a lot

  • @user-rc7cb3oq3u
    @user-rc7cb3oq3u 6 місяців тому

    thank you so much sir ❤❤

  • @MisterTomahawk22
    @MisterTomahawk22 5 років тому

    Really nice formula !

  • @oneworldT1
    @oneworldT1 Рік тому

    Thanks sir .

  • @alicia4940
    @alicia4940 2 роки тому

    Thank you so muchhhh😍😭 you‘re much better than my uni lecturer😍

  • @AnuragKumar-io2sb
    @AnuragKumar-io2sb 5 років тому +2

    Wow😲😲 never thought of this

  • @awwab1094
    @awwab1094 Рік тому

    I appreciate it thank you

  • @MrMariuslestat
    @MrMariuslestat Рік тому

    Thank you!!!!

  • @sangamxghimire
    @sangamxghimire 2 місяці тому

    thank you very much

  • @rohitsk4018
    @rohitsk4018 4 роки тому

    Very very good
    Thank you sir

  • @dharmanshah1239
    @dharmanshah1239 5 років тому +8

    Nice intro!!

  • @evelinageorge2997
    @evelinageorge2997 Рік тому

    Sir you know the importance of understanding 👍❤️

  • @johnny_eth
    @johnny_eth 4 роки тому

    It would be cool for you to demonstrate the arc length formula with a practical example, like the arc length of the semi circle (x**2+y**2=r**2) and then resolving to pi.

  • @vakhariyajay2224
    @vakhariyajay2224 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much. 👍👍🔝🔝

  • @juancuneo8346
    @juancuneo8346 5 років тому

    Amazing

  • @bazzkiller1331
    @bazzkiller1331 5 років тому +3

    Great video, well done! If I were you, I wouldn't use dx and dy at start, but *Δx* and *Δy* as they are not infinitesimal.

    • @JensenPlaysMC
      @JensenPlaysMC 5 років тому

      well obviously he is assuming they are. just blown up for viewing purposes.

  • @rafaellisboa8493
    @rafaellisboa8493 5 років тому +1

    wooow this was awesome mind blown comrade

  • @chathurangasameera6722
    @chathurangasameera6722 11 місяців тому

    Tnx sir ❤️

  • @popodood
    @popodood Місяць тому

    After relearnijg little segments of math randomly it seems so simple each time lol, but it is hard to remember how to derive all these in the moment

  • @CyberGamer1539
    @CyberGamer1539 4 роки тому

    This is easily the simplest way I've seen of deriving the formula.

  • @h4c_18
    @h4c_18 5 років тому +1

    And if you have x(t) and y(t) you do the integral sqrt((dx/dt)^2+(dy/dt)^2)dt from t_a to t_b? Ex: x(t)=e^t * cos(t) and y(t)=e^t * sin(t) from 0 to Pi/2

  • @Ken-no5ip
    @Ken-no5ip 2 роки тому

    Amazingly simple

  • @avery_IO
    @avery_IO 3 роки тому

    dope shirt @blackpenredpen

  • @DanielFrostable
    @DanielFrostable 3 роки тому

    Thank you! My book was not clear in how this formula came about.

  • @gabrielzago387
    @gabrielzago387 2 роки тому

    Nice!

  • @6612770
    @6612770 5 років тому +45

    Excellent that you identified how the 'elemental length' is constructed in terms of the coordinate space. Getting this firmly grasped is key to tackling the 'bigger stuff' - circle, ellipse, spirals - then onto 3D with helix et al.
    Please use this episode as a launching point for a series, working upwards through the understanding/complexity of finding arc lengths 'from first principles'. That is what will make the "Aha!" Light Bulb come on in peoples heads and stay there forever.

    • @AbhishekSachans
      @AbhishekSachans 5 років тому +6

      Exactly!!

    • @UntakenNick
      @UntakenNick 5 років тому +6

      Yeah, I wish there were channels that teach math of physics at full depth starting from zero instead of just making use of that knowledge to do random stuff that require the view to already know the subject in order to understand what they're talking about.

  • @anilsharma-ev2my
    @anilsharma-ev2my 4 роки тому

    Can you found the equal area circle ?
    Radius is what so we found percentage of curve length between interval ?

  • @kono152
    @kono152 Рік тому +1

    could you make a video deriving the arc length for polar curves too?

  • @nfqioehr
    @nfqioehr 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, do you have a video on how to graph a cycloid and an epicycloid given a their parametric equations? thanks a lot !

  • @DeLuini985
    @DeLuini985 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much. You reminded me of using Pythagoras everywhere 🤣

  • @RicardoOliveiraRGB
    @RicardoOliveiraRGB 5 років тому +1

    Will you talk about line integrals?

  • @anilkumarsharma8901
    @anilkumarsharma8901 Рік тому

    show time dilation between two points as direct length and curve length of various type like parabola or circle or any other geometric figures

  • @user-ov6ee1nk9o
    @user-ov6ee1nk9o 11 місяців тому

    Here is the "dL" lmao, great video!

  • @carcisme
    @carcisme 5 років тому +2

    Medio entiendo el inglés, pero se entiende perfectamente lo que explicas. Gracias.

  • @thbb1
    @thbb1 6 місяців тому

    great explanation, but could you follow up with a practical example, for instance, computing the arclength of sin(x) between 0 and pi?

  • @VaradMahashabde
    @VaradMahashabde 5 років тому +2

    Wouldn't dl always go from 0 to L, ,from adding nothing to adding the entire arc's length(denoted by L), regardless of whether y is a function of x or vice versa, since that is how dl varies, not it's equivalent expression

  • @arnabchowdhury4892
    @arnabchowdhury4892 10 місяців тому

    Please derive surface area of cone, cylinder, sphere using surface integral around axis of rotation

  • @bulldawg4498
    @bulldawg4498 5 років тому

    Will you ever make videos covering line integrals over scalar and vector fields, culminating in Green's Theorem and Stokes' Theorem? Also, smaller in scope: there's a need for a good video on the Jacobian ...

  • @xobieu
    @xobieu 10 місяців тому

    for anyone's confused at 3:54 why (dx)^2 + (dy)^2 = (dx)^2 * ( 1 + (dy)^2/(dx)^2) )
    since (dy)^2 = (dy)^2 . (dx)^2 / (dx)^2 (which is = 1) u can basically create a dx out of thin air. Then, obviously, we just need to factor the dx out
    (dx)^2 + (dy)^2 * (dx)^2 / (dx)^2 = (dx)^2 * ( 1 + (dy)^2/(dx)^2)

  • @rafaellisboa8493
    @rafaellisboa8493 5 років тому +1

    please could you do a vid about the area of a 3D curve? that should be very interesting

  • @alexpastrana7840
    @alexpastrana7840 3 роки тому

    this boy flexin the supreme

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 4 роки тому

    there are more cases fe
    curve given by parametric equations
    curve in polar coordinates

  • @mihajlovucic8037
    @mihajlovucic8037 5 років тому +1

    Hi, Blackpenredpen.
    I like your videos and I learned a lot about calculus in your videos (although I'm 15, and we don't do it in school yet :))
    I am interested in limits, so I found this one: lim (n-->inf) 4/n*(sqrt(2/n-1/n^2)+sqrt(4/n-4/n^2)+sqrt(6/n-9/n^2)+sqrt(8/n-16/n^2)....+sqrt(2k/n-k^2/n^2)...). Can you compute it? (You can put it in sigma calculator to see how interesting it is)

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 3 роки тому

      Excellent work young man!!

  • @Fru1tyy
    @Fru1tyy 5 років тому +1

    I tried the arc length of sin x but I can’t evaluate the integral . Internet says that it is an elliptic intergal, so now I’m wondering what’s an elliptic integral.

  • @pabitrabasumatary7484
    @pabitrabasumatary7484 4 роки тому

    Tnk u sir tnk u😘😘😘

  • @anilsharma-ev2my
    @anilsharma-ev2my 4 роки тому

    Curve line .
    we don't know it's length but we know about interval length and y intersect with curve so we know area and breadth taken as y axis between interval and interval length so use area divided by it so we got length of the curve ????

  • @garyhuntress6871
    @garyhuntress6871 4 роки тому

    I've done line integrals before but now I know WHY they look like that!!

  • @rorycarter6948
    @rorycarter6948 Рік тому

    I keep thinking he’s saying “this is the deal..”😂

  • @algirdasltu1389
    @algirdasltu1389 2 місяці тому

    Its always pythagoras that shows up everywhere, even when you dont expect it...