I usually don't comment but this video saved my life real talk I never did it before and people kept saying change the entire rear end on my 1999 silverado ibwas getting high 7-$1200 for a read end until I seen this video I went outside and changed it out with no problems this was my only vehicle getting to work with a lawn service on the side man I really appreciate it!!
thinkbeforeuspeak was your rear end making a "popping" noise when you would turn from a low speed? I have a 2000 silverado and I'm trying to figure out what the problem is.
Noah Robin well it wasn't making any noise at first just felt like a slipping transmission,then woke to go to work and the drives haft was spinning inside the rear end
Noah, your spider gears/ or LSD is trashed. Just open your inspection cover on rear axle... Figure out what's busted and move forward. Should be busted spider gears though. I just developed the same problem with my 2000 Silverado. Only happens when I turn right at slow speed. I just hope there is no damage to the Ring & Pinion when I get in there to see what's happening.
After watching 4 different videos I’m glad I came across yours. Very well explained and I’m feeling pretty confident about doing this. Thanks a lot brother.
I own a 01 Chevy Suburban LT 1500 I'm running a corner this morning I hear a little grinding and then all the sudden at the Apex boom grind grind grind and immediately I knew something bad happened in the diff. so I baby it home luckily without any spider gears falling out and I bust open the cover and low and behold the actual shaft is sheared off and missing on one side and the other side is still in barely being held by its screw As a result of the other side being broken not sure how I did that but I did . I will be making a video to the same effect that I will upload and post a link to. thank you very much this was very helpful and you're editing / explaning skills are impeccable these kinds of videos are what makes UA-cam so helpful thank you again
Thank you for posting this video. My G80 gernaded, saw this video, ordered a new differential G80 for my Chevy Avalanche and did the install thanks to this video!
So happy I found this video. I think you just saved me about a thousand bucks!!! I was going to hire someone to do this for me, but since I think I'm just doing the spiders now, I'm going to try myself. My old Suburban has 150K miles, so I think it's probably time. Starting to make some noises in the back so I at least need to open it up and look. THANKS SO MUCH!!!
I'm about to do this on a 2000 silverado, I had one hell of a time to find the right spiders, because my carrier is two large window, ordered at my local parts store and waited friggen 6 weeks to find out, they ordered wrong gearset. I finally got the right parts I ordered online. I found it was difficult cleaning out the metal dust flakes all out of the differential, but I think I'll run it for a little while and then do a fluid change to hopefully get rid of the rest of metal flakes. Thanks for the great video, up until this point I have never once opened up a differential, but I have rebuilt motors and transmissions and almost everything else. Changing these spiders is quite simple!
The way you pulled out the C-Clip almost mad me cry. I spent I good hour trying to get that sucker out, had to have someone push the axle in as hard as they could to have enough room to slide the c clip out. Awesome video though great lighting and explanation! Subscribed!
I just bought my set at autozone for $107. Nothing against jo daddy, great video, glad i found it. But everyone should know they arent shims, they are thrust washers and yes you need them.
Absolutely amazing video! Very well explained! I was praying I would find a video like this because I too have never messed with the rear end and I was super nervous to get into it but knew no matter what I was going to try because I don't want to have to pay a mechanic to get this job done. I'm not 100% sure yet if it's just the bearings or if it's the spider gears but either way after watching this video I am confident I can get it done! Thank you for putting this together I greatly appreciate it :-)
Jo Daddy.....Really good video of the problem and fixes for it. In the comments Dee Money and T-1 seem to have outlined the problem I am having with my "92" Chevy 1500, plus I'm getting a vibration at highway speeds. I had it a month ago, then it disappeared, and now it has reappeared! Time to pop the cover and take a look. Again, great video!
My rear end in my 2000 gmc looks just like that right now. I don't know how my truck moves even. Will be doing this same job in the next few days.. Yay
Great vid. Every little project that you video will surly help someone in The Garage Gang and beyond. Good stuff, Sir....now get back to the Mustang resto! Haha!
Don't get me wrong , but this differential has been in very bat mistreated , no mater 200k , in this case , replaced the all assemble is in my opinion , the most chip way to put the truck again on the road . Thank you for your video.
thanks I'm gonna try this everyone keeps saying I need a new rear end for my 98 z71 but I think this is the problem and 2 other people said the same thing but I had no idea how to change the gears I just know how to put a new rear end in but this helped me alot
GM should have recalled this... My 2000 Silverado just had the spider gears fail at 84K Miles. I see the same problem all over the internet. Anywhere from 60K-200K.
It's always a good idea to pull both axles completely out so to clean up/inspect the axle tubes/wheel bearings of filings/metal chunks and replace axle seals while doing so. Chances are some debris has worked it's way towards the wheels.
Especially with the extent of the destruction. Replacing mine in the next few days, few teeth broke but nothing like that, WOW! Never seen any as bad as those. Amazing to see the pinion and ring virtually undamaged. Enjoyed the video. You got a new sub.
Great video. Very informative. I'm surprised the truck moved at all with the gears chewed up like that. With all that destruction and metal shavings, aren't you worried the shavings will get in the bearings and tear them up too (if it hadn't already)? Or did you clean them up before reinstalling?
I did not remove the bearings, but I did use a few cans of cleaner and a lot of shop towels cleaning it out. The owners have put a lot of miles on it, and have no issues.
So tonight I was driving and hauling trailer and kept hearing metal on metal sounds and thought it was the trailer well was going up a hill and then heard a pop and metal on metal and my 01 suburban would not drive anymore. I could put it in gear and left off the brake and you could hear metal on metal and but the wheels were going. So put it on 4x4 and limped home. So by chance could this be what's wrong with mine before I go and purchase a whole new rear end
There's no mention of the shims on the spider gears on the pinion shaft. How were you able to keep one spider and shim in place while rotating the carrier?
I am getting a suburban soon that has been sitting for 2 years. Same model and year. It too was parked after the spider gears went out. When talking to people with a little mechanical background they say that the new gears can be difficult to put in and the alignment of them is critical. Your video doesn't address this. Is that something someone with average mechanical skills needs to worry about? Your video makes it look relatively easy.
good work man, I got the same problem with the whole set of gears " the main gear got damaged and the spiders as well " chevy truck 80s 4X4. if you could possibly hit me with someone sells spare parts as what you got i will appreciate it. Good job again.
I just thought of this and I haven't seen a vid of the newer silverado's either, welding the spiders together?!?! I only have bad spiders so why not weld them puppies together?
Hey man if you don't mind, how do you find out what R.G. you have I know from the RPO GT4 its 373 gears but the parts house what to know if its an 8.5 8.6 9.5 10.5 or 11.0 I took a tape from one side of the diff to the other and it was 11.0? don't think I'm doing this right. Going with Motive gears from Advanced Auto for $140 out the door. thx again Jon
If I remember correctly, it goes by the VIN number. I had gone to the dealer to buy the gears from them, and I gave them the VIN. They told me the size, and that the gears were o$450+. I thanked them and left. Other than that I don't have an answer. If it helps, the ring gear is the big gear, and the pinion is the drive gear from the drive shaft. www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-ARB/articles/14b_Gear_Setup/ Not sure if this will post, but there are plenty of pics on google.
Yeah dead on on the Ring Gear, the 8.5 numbers are killing me the ratio being 373 you would think that number would be the only one you need. I bet all the spiders are the same and only "duh" the ring gear would make a difference when replacing everything, but I got a print out from the dealer, b/c I could not find out if someone did a swap on the transfer case, found it has a (TC) from 2500 HD's under it from the factory, I swear this was some rich guys toy in the Hamptons only as far as I could track the truck down LOL Thankx Alot for the replies man BIG BIG HELP, I'll be watching out for more of your vids! SUBSCRIBED!!!!
Great video Jo . I have to do the same rebuild on my truck same year too and with 4.10 gears. Its funny I have owned 3/4 and 1 ton trucks all my life and never did a rear diff rebuild. I wonder why the gears go on the 1500 series ?
I have the same problem. My concern is that the carrier bearings or pinion bearing was bad if these were worn. But I REALLY don't want to take everything out and deal with shims and backlash adjustments etc! So, your video is exciting to me. How has this repair has held up? Any ongoing problems with bearings, etc?
Question I have a 2002 surburban it clunks when I put it in reverse changed out both u joints what do u think only dies it when I put it in reverse not down the high way no play in the drive shaft either
This video helped replace those same exact spider gears with those same exact other new spider gears ... but found out that suburban was a 2 wheel drive and my sierra is a 4x4 will those gears affect my car while using my truck on 4 wheel drive ?
Did you have to use the shims? What was the tolerance between the gears? Did you just use a feeler gauge to measure the tolerance or do you need a different measuring tool?
Mark Bugley I didn't use anything but what came in the gear set kit. The shims were already in there. I was surprised at how nice it fit. That was a concern I had, but I was told that it's different than if you pulled the carrier itself.
I think as long as you are only removing the spiders, it is simple and won't require any measurements, but if you pull the carrier it can be a lot of precision work to make it right, the only thing I would want to take out carrier for would be to swap out the inner bearings, myself personally I am swapping only the spiders. Anything more and I would have to leave to the pros who are set up to fine tune the differential.
Jo I have the same situation going on ,only thing is I have a 4×4 suburban . but upon inspection of gears when I pulled them . there exactly the same as what these are . so I ordered some and the gear teeth ain't the same count ..my question being , is that will that hurt my transfer case when in four wheel because gear teeth are bigger ? thanks great vid
I actually had the same issue. The factory set had more teeth. It won't matter because you're installing them as a set. You're not changing the ring gear or pinion, just the internals.
Hello, I discovered my Z71 has a mechanical locking differential I believe it's called. Would you know if the process for replacing the spider gears is the same as shown here?
I believe its flattened to allow lubrication to enter that location better. Also, excellent vid i appreciate it. Same exact issue i just discovered this morning. Now to go wrench some more.
I am currently in the middle of this project on my o2 z71 and the pin that the 8mm bolt goes in is stuck in the carrier it only moves about an 1/4 of an inch either way. it won't come out. any suggestion on what to do.
were you hearing a grinding noise, and did it get worse when you gave it more gas? I have a grinding noise and it gets louder when I give it more gas. Just wondering if that is my problem
This video is helpful to get my new gears on to my 2000 chevy tahoe but Im running into an issue. Was wondering if you could help? I cant get the small spider gear to get past the lip with the shim on it of where it sits on top. No issues with the bottom. Would you know how to get it past this lip? Can install without the shim but not with....
my center pin has a piece that surrounds it and pretty much makes my gears stay in exact spot how but can move and rotate everything how do i get gears out?
hey brother if you remember was the two little gears the same number of teeth or were they a different number I just got a set of Yukon gears spider gear set and the two little ones are one tooth in difference Idk if they packaged them wrong or what but the shop that was doing it couldn't get them in so I'm doing it myself... just was wondering if you have any feedback let me know asap t.i.a.
fourthlayer Yeah it's extortion how much a mechanic charges. Average American makes 15 to $25 an hour average mechanic charges between 55 and 95 an hour math doesn't add up. Plus their jobs are brought to them hell they could drive a moped back and forth to work. 90% of Carpenters have to have a full size pickup truck ladder rack and all their tools and have to drive all over the goddamn State just to complete their jobs
Its the shop that charges that much not the mechanic. The mechanic still makes just enough money to get by. Trust me i've been a mech for 10 years now that might not seem like alot but im only 27. The shops are the dirty ones that screw people over don't blame all mechanics.
Yep, it is usually the shop, which pay the mechanic, who get a large percentage of the repair costs. However, they do provide the facilities for working on vehicles, like the heat, AC, lights, lifts, insurance, etc, etc. so they have to make some money for those things too!
Dramahoe I Don't really remember. I wish I was able to film that part. You can try to put a little wheel bearing grease on them so they stick to the gear.
Jo Daddy's Garage Ya, that was the main reason I watched it. Good video. But just as you mentioned about how you got the spider gears set properly but didn't get it on film. I was bummed. I have to do that tomorrow.
Ok. How long did it take you to do everything? Because my Spyder gears are bad in my Silverado, I was considering getting a new rear end but your video made me just wanna put new gears in it.
Jo Daddy's Garage also, my truck jolts when I put it in park sometimes, and when I hit about 45mph it starts to jolt funny. When I step on the gas a little more it had no problems. I definitely need a new rear end.
I usually don't comment but this video saved my life real talk I never did it before and people kept saying change the entire rear end on my 1999 silverado ibwas getting high 7-$1200 for a read end until I seen this video I went outside and changed it out with no problems this was my only vehicle getting to work with a lawn service on the side man I really appreciate it!!
thinkbeforeuspeak was your rear end making a "popping" noise when you would turn from a low speed? I have a 2000 silverado and I'm trying to figure out what the problem is.
Noah Robin well it wasn't making any noise at first just felt like a slipping transmission,then woke to go to work and the drives haft was spinning inside the rear end
Noah, your spider gears/ or LSD is trashed. Just open your inspection cover on rear axle... Figure out what's busted and move forward. Should be busted spider gears though.
I just developed the same problem with my 2000 Silverado. Only happens when I turn right at slow speed.
I just hope there is no damage to the Ring & Pinion when I get in there to see what's happening.
T-1 same thing on my 2000 silverado and my spider gears are trashed up be working on that for a while bought a new car in the meantime
After watching 4 different videos I’m glad I came across yours. Very well explained and I’m feeling pretty confident about doing this. Thanks a lot brother.
I own a 01 Chevy Suburban LT 1500 I'm running a corner this morning I hear a little grinding and then all the sudden at the Apex boom grind grind grind and immediately I knew something bad happened in the diff. so I baby it home luckily without any spider gears falling out and I bust open the cover and low and behold the actual shaft is sheared off and missing on one side and the other side is still in barely being held by its screw As a result of the other side being broken not sure how I did that but I did . I will be making a video to the same effect that I will upload and post a link to. thank you very much this was very helpful and you're editing / explaning skills are impeccable these kinds of videos are what makes UA-cam so helpful thank you again
To all other DIY video makers.....THIS is how it's done.. clear,to the point,great lighting.. A+ on this video!
Except he didnt how how yo reinstall ........ other than that yes i agree great video quality.
That’s d way everyone should make videos where u can see d details close up n good lighting nice job man
Thank you for posting this video. My G80 gernaded, saw this video, ordered a new differential G80 for my Chevy Avalanche and did the install thanks to this video!
I don't even have this problem (yet), but found the video explained things so well I watched it all anyway!
Thanks.
So happy I found this video. I think you just saved me about a thousand bucks!!! I was going to hire someone to do this for me, but since I think I'm just doing the spiders now, I'm going to try myself. My old Suburban has 150K miles, so I think it's probably time. Starting to make some noises in the back so I at least need to open it up and look. THANKS SO MUCH!!!
Shon Alexander I'm glad you found it as well. You're welcome.
Absolutely GREAT video! I'm doing my gears today.... Exact same problem. Thanks again and don't stop making videos. Very informative and detailed.
I needed to see the line up on how to get them back in .Getting them out is not the problem!!
Me too, I watched the whole video right up until the end and no spider gear replacing lol
I’m pretty sure that carrier has to be removed to get the gears in properly. Probably why he didn’t show that.
I'm about to do this on a 2000 silverado, I had one hell of a time to find the right spiders, because my carrier is two large window, ordered at my local parts store and waited friggen 6 weeks to find out, they ordered wrong gearset. I finally got the right parts I ordered online. I found it was difficult cleaning out the metal dust flakes all out of the differential, but I think I'll run it for a little while and then do a fluid change to hopefully get rid of the rest of metal flakes. Thanks for the great video, up until this point I have never once opened up a differential, but I have rebuilt motors and transmissions and almost everything else. Changing these spiders is quite simple!
chris42000000 Sounds good. I have done a lot of other things, but I had not tackled a diff until this one.
Yes fluid change after putting on a few miles is a great idea! IMHO it's the final step in a complete and properly performed repair.
You are gifted. Great control of the English language.
Thanks. That's a different comment for sure, but I appreciate it.
Thanks for showing how to put the gears back in the most important part of the video
You did a Great Job man! simple & good point outs! Not like everyone else putting the camera all around the world.
Hi
The way you pulled out the C-Clip almost mad me cry. I spent I good hour trying to get that sucker out, had to have someone push the axle in as hard as they could to have enough room to slide the c clip out. Awesome video though great lighting and explanation! Subscribed!
I just bought my set at autozone for $107. Nothing against jo daddy, great video, glad i found it. But everyone should know they arent shims, they are thrust washers and yes you need them.
Jason Eddy Thanks for the comment. Glad you cleared that up. When I made the video, I couldn't remember the name, so I may have said shim.
Absolutely amazing video! Very well explained! I was praying I would find a video like this because I too have never messed with the rear end and I was super nervous to get into it but knew no matter what I was going to try because I don't want to have to pay a mechanic to get this job done. I'm not 100% sure yet if it's just the bearings or if it's the spider gears but either way after watching this video I am confident I can get it done! Thank you for putting this together I greatly appreciate it :-)
Exactly what happened to my 03 Silverado yesterday! Im gonna tackle this project this weekend. Thanks
Hey Jo Thank You for the info I have a 2000 Yukon and just fixed it with your help Thanks good video
I have to replace the spiders on my 1994 suburban. Only bad part of breaking them is I have to drive a ford...
Haha! Something I'd say. Yet likely just walk.
Jo Daddy.....Really good video of the problem and fixes for it. In the comments Dee Money and T-1 seem to have outlined the problem I am having with my "92" Chevy 1500, plus I'm getting a vibration at highway speeds. I had it a month ago, then it disappeared, and now it has reappeared! Time to pop the cover and take a look. Again, great video!
hi JO.....I pulled my cover off today and my gears had 4 or 5 teeth missing....seems easy to me ....thanks for posting
My rear end in my 2000 gmc looks just like that right now. I don't know how my truck moves even. Will be doing this same job in the next few days.. Yay
The flat is for oil to get into the bearing surface
replace your gear oil at recommended mileage kids
Thanks for the great info man I just did mines today went exactly how you said it would keep up the great vids‼
Nice video, glad to hear that i could get set from parts store. about 8yrs ago played hell to find. Got set for 99.99 autozone, awesome! ! 😆
great video. gonna do my 96 tahoe this weekend. haven't opened it yet, hope it's just the spiders.
Very easy fix, usally caused by doing burnouts on turns.
alright thank you man really needed this info before I go being it to a rear end/differential shop
Very good directions keep up the good work.
Great vid. Every little project that you video will surly help someone in The Garage Gang and beyond. Good stuff, Sir....now get back to the Mustang resto! Haha!
The Garage Gang. I like it! I know I already say gang in some videos. I'll have to work Garage Gang in there. Back to the Mustang on Monday!
Don't get me wrong , but this differential has been in very bat mistreated , no mater 200k , in this case , replaced the all assemble is in my opinion , the most chip way to put the truck again on the road . Thank you for your video.
The flattened parts of the shaft look to me like a support to get oil between shaft and gear to minimize wear and tear
thanks I'm gonna try this everyone keeps saying I need a new rear end for my 98 z71 but I think this is the problem and 2 other people said the same thing but I had no idea how to change the gears I just know how to put a new rear end in but this helped me alot
thanks bro u just saved me alot of money good video
GM should have recalled this... My 2000 Silverado just had the spider gears fail at 84K Miles.
I see the same problem all over the internet. Anywhere from 60K-200K.
It's always a good idea to pull both axles completely out so to clean up/inspect the axle tubes/wheel bearings of filings/metal chunks and replace axle seals while doing so. Chances are some debris has worked it's way towards the wheels.
Good advice.
Especially with the extent of the destruction. Replacing mine in the next few days, few teeth broke but nothing like that, WOW! Never seen any as bad as those. Amazing to see the pinion and ring virtually undamaged. Enjoyed the video. You got a new sub.
Thanks.
I think this just might save my ass good CLEAN job!!!
Good. Glad I could help.
This was very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks this video saved me alot of time
ericpinter29 Glad to hear it. That's why I make them.
Short, sweet and awesome!!! One great video.
Thanks for the video gonna tackle mine Wednesday it just pooped on my today I have set order at napa paid $130!
I did find out its easier to get the gears all lined up first the roll them back and slide the thrust washers in. Lol
Great video. Very informative. I'm surprised the truck moved at all with the gears chewed up like that. With all that destruction and metal shavings, aren't you worried the shavings will get in the bearings and tear them up too (if it hadn't already)? Or did you clean them up before reinstalling?
I did not remove the bearings, but I did use a few cans of cleaner and a lot of shop towels cleaning it out. The owners have put a lot of miles on it, and have no issues.
Great Video. Thanks.
So tonight I was driving and hauling trailer and kept hearing metal on metal sounds and thought it was the trailer well was going up a hill and then heard a pop and metal on metal and my 01 suburban would not drive anymore. I could put it in gear and left off the brake and you could hear metal on metal and but the wheels were going. So put it on 4x4 and limped home. So by chance could this be what's wrong with mine before I go and purchase a whole new rear end
That sounds like the same thing. May want to pull the cover and see how bad it is.
Figured lol
So how safe would that be to continue driving till I can get it fixed
I wouldn't. If pieces break loose and bind up, it'll be like locking up your brakes....unexpectedly. Could be ugly.
Hey Joey Stevens. I have same problems just happened last night...... what was your outcome ??? Was it just spider gears? Thnx in advance
Good video. But I wish you would have shown it going back together. That was a little disappointing.
great video I know its hard to record an work lol but really good video an explaining step by step
Great video, thanks for posting.
gracias muy completo tu vídeo ......me sirvió de mucho en el taller ....sigue subiendo mas ... :)
Thank you 🙏🏻 helped so much !!!
Now if I change from a 3.23 diff to a 4.10 do I need to get a bigger pumpkin or will it fit
Dude you are the man. Thank you.
There's no mention of the shims on the spider gears on the pinion shaft. How were you able to keep one spider and shim in place while rotating the carrier?
A little bit of oil if I remember correctly.
Just had this happen to my tahoe at 295xxx miles..
I am getting a suburban soon that has been sitting for 2 years. Same model and year. It too was parked after the spider gears went out. When talking to people with a little mechanical background they say that the new gears can be difficult to put in and the alignment of them is critical. Your video doesn't address this. Is that something someone with average mechanical skills needs to worry about? Your video makes it look relatively easy.
It's really not that hard. Unless there's more damaged, it's just pieces out and pieces in.
Thanks for the help! Awesome
I have a Silverado with the same problem they list two sets of spider gears for the 8.25 diff and another set for the larger diff
You have unbelievable long arms!!! How the hell you pull the axel out the right while holding the cam on the left hand???
With my foot. 😂
good work man, I got the same problem with the whole set of gears " the main gear got damaged and the spiders as well " chevy truck 80s 4X4. if you could possibly hit me with someone sells spare parts as what you got i will appreciate it. Good job again.
G ossef Thanks. I bought my parts at Advance Auto. You could try Rock Auto parts.com
ok cool man .. thank you again.
Time to do mine, just checked it out and the spiders are really bad!
I just thought of this and I haven't seen a vid of the newer silverado's either, welding the spiders together?!?! I only have bad spiders so why not weld them puppies together?
Well, if you want to eat tires up every time you make a turn.... Welding them would make it a permanent posi-traction.
Hey man if you don't mind, how do you find out what R.G. you have I know from the RPO GT4 its 373 gears but the parts house what to know if its an 8.5 8.6 9.5 10.5 or 11.0 I took a tape from one side of the diff to the other and it was 11.0? don't think I'm doing this right. Going with Motive gears from Advanced Auto for $140 out the door. thx again Jon
If I remember correctly, it goes by the VIN number. I had gone to the dealer to buy the gears from them, and I gave them the VIN. They told me the size, and that the gears were o$450+. I thanked them and left. Other than that I don't have an answer. If it helps, the ring gear is the big gear, and the pinion is the drive gear from the drive shaft. www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-ARB/articles/14b_Gear_Setup/
Not sure if this will post, but there are plenty of pics on google.
Yeah dead on on the Ring Gear, the 8.5 numbers are killing me the ratio being 373 you would think that number would be the only one you need. I bet all the spiders are the same and only "duh" the ring gear would make a difference when replacing everything, but I got a print out from the dealer, b/c I could not find out if someone did a swap on the transfer case, found it has a (TC) from 2500 HD's under it from the factory, I swear this was some rich guys toy in the Hamptons only as far as I could track the truck down LOL Thankx Alot for the replies man BIG BIG HELP, I'll be watching out for more of your vids! SUBSCRIBED!!!!
Did you end up using the shims for the larger rings? how do you know if you need them?
I used the shims that came with the new gears. I believe they have to have the shims.
Excellent video
Great video Jo . I have to do the same rebuild on my truck same year too and with 4.10 gears. Its funny I have owned 3/4 and 1 ton trucks all my life and never did a rear diff rebuild. I wonder why the gears go on the 1500 series ?
Hard to say. Maybe people are more aggressive with them.
Did you had issues with the shaft not turning when you were putting the pin in? Cause mine don't turn..I even tried it on neutral and nothing..
Great video man.
I have the same problem. My concern is that the carrier bearings or pinion bearing was bad if these were worn. But I REALLY don't want to take everything out and deal with shims and backlash adjustments etc! So, your video is exciting to me.
How has this repair has held up? Any ongoing problems with bearings, etc?
Still in use and no problems.
I think ima going to get that 01 Suburban
Thank you..
Question I have a 2002 surburban it clunks when I put it in reverse changed out both u joints what do u think only dies it when I put it in reverse not down the high way no play in the drive shaft either
It's very possible the gears are worn.
This video helped replace those same exact spider gears with those same exact other new spider gears ... but found out that suburban was a 2 wheel drive and my sierra is a 4x4 will those gears affect my car while using my truck on 4 wheel drive ?
+Abraham Pena No reason they should. They do the same job as the old ones. The ratio is determined by the ring gear and pinion.
This Video was Amazing man
I wanted to see how you got the spider gears back in and you skipped it bummer
Sorry. I think it took both hands.
What did you use to clean out the old gear oil?
Brake parts cleaner.
Did you have to use the shims? What was the tolerance between the gears? Did you just use a feeler gauge to measure the tolerance or do you need a different measuring tool?
Mark Bugley I didn't use anything but what came in the gear set kit. The shims were already in there. I was surprised at how nice it fit. That was a concern I had, but I was told that it's different than if you pulled the carrier itself.
I think as long as you are only removing the spiders, it is simple and won't require any measurements, but if you pull the carrier it can be a lot of precision work to make it right, the only thing I would want to take out carrier for would be to swap out the inner bearings, myself personally I am swapping only the spiders. Anything more and I would have to leave to the pros who are set up to fine tune the differential.
Jo I have the same situation going on ,only thing is I have a 4×4 suburban . but upon inspection of gears when I pulled them . there exactly the same as what these are . so I ordered some and the gear teeth ain't the same count ..my question being , is that will that hurt my transfer case when in four wheel because gear teeth are bigger ? thanks great vid
I actually had the same issue. The factory set had more teeth. It won't matter because you're installing them as a set. You're not changing the ring gear or pinion, just the internals.
Dang why they so much for little gears. That’s robbery
Hello, I discovered my Z71 has a mechanical locking differential I believe it's called. Would you know if the process for replacing the spider gears is the same as shown here?
I can't say for sure.
Do you know what else is involved in replacing the spider gears in a limited slip differential?
+Douglas Elliott Sorry, I do not.
I think that spider pin is flat on two ends because the bolt that holds the pin in..has to go by it to tighten it...does this make since...
Could be....
I believe its flattened to allow lubrication to enter that location better. Also, excellent vid i appreciate it. Same exact issue i just discovered this morning. Now to go wrench some more.
I am currently in the middle of this project on my o2 z71 and the pin that the 8mm bolt goes in is stuck in the carrier it only moves about an 1/4 of an inch either way. it won't come out. any suggestion on what to do.
That's odd. Not sure what to suggest.
Great video man. my spider gears just went out on my blazer. this helps big time. what,and how did u get most of the metal shaving out?
+Stephen Osborne I used brake cleaner and shop towels. Kept rinsing everything down, and wiping it out.
Okay thanks man.
were you hearing a grinding noise, and did it get worse when you gave it more gas? I have a grinding noise and it gets louder when I give it more gas. Just wondering if that is my problem
Yes. It was grinding, but at this point, it was slipping internally.
Thanks, I guess I need to pull the cover and take a look at mine.
Hey Joe how did you get the carrier to move I have the rear end up still can't figure out how to get the carrier to move
May be a dumb question, but is the transmission in neutral? Or is the driveshaft unbolted?
I wish the pin on mine came out that easy, I had to beat it with a punch and hammer
How long does it usually takes to replace them of you have the parts and tools?
If you know what you're doing and don't hit a snag, less than 4 hours. Probably 3.
This video is helpful to get my new gears on to my 2000 chevy tahoe but Im running into an issue. Was wondering if you could help?
I cant get the small spider gear to get past the lip with the shim on it of where it sits on top. No issues with the bottom. Would you know how to get it past this lip?
Can install without the shim but not with....
Hmm... Not sure on that one. What kit did you buy?
USA gear kit GM 8.6
my center pin has a piece that surrounds it and pretty much makes my gears stay in exact spot how but can move and rotate everything how do i get gears out?
Not sure. Is it the same set-up as the one I did?
So how did it work out? I assume less teeth makes it a little noisier than stock.
It worked very well. Couldn't hear it at all.
in process of doing this now, need to turn carrier so I can get to lock pin bolt. what is best way to turn carrier?
Wheels off the ground, transmission in neutral. No parking brake.
hey brother if you remember was the two little gears the same number of teeth or were they a different number I just got a set of Yukon gears spider gear set and the two little ones are one tooth in difference Idk if they packaged them wrong or what but the shop that was doing it couldn't get them in so I'm doing it myself... just was wondering if you have any feedback let me know asap t.i.a.
+Kelsey yourmom I would have to believe the tooth count would have to be identical.
Alright
I just paid $1,200 to have this exact job done! How many hours did it take? Amazing vid. Thank you
+fourthlayer I did it in less than 3 hours.
fourthlayer
Yeah it's extortion how much a mechanic charges. Average American makes 15 to $25 an hour average mechanic charges between 55 and 95 an hour math doesn't add up. Plus their jobs are brought to them hell they could drive a moped back and forth to work. 90% of Carpenters have to have a full size pickup truck ladder rack and all their tools and have to drive all over the goddamn State just to complete their jobs
Its the shop that charges that much not the mechanic. The mechanic still makes just enough money to get by. Trust me i've been a mech for 10 years now that might not seem like alot but im only 27. The shops are the dirty ones that screw people over don't blame all mechanics.
Yep, it is usually the shop, which pay the mechanic, who get a large percentage of the repair costs. However, they do provide the facilities for working on vehicles, like the heat, AC, lights, lifts, insurance, etc, etc. so they have to make some money for those things too!
Thanks for the video 👌
Good job!
So that must be a two-wheel drive
how did you put in the small gears in without having the washers slip off
Dramahoe I Don't really remember. I wish I was able to film that part. You can try to put a little wheel bearing grease on them so they stick to the gear.
Jo Daddy's Garage Ya, that was the main reason I watched it. Good video. But just as you mentioned about how you got the spider gears set properly but didn't get it on film. I was bummed. I have to do that tomorrow.
80w90 them up some, they'll tend to stay stuck together.
But whats the best /easiest way to get the smaller gears back in
When you were driving the suburban with the bad gears, what were symptoms that made you know it was the Spyder gears?
It was a friends suburban, and it was making a lot of noise. It also had difficulty moving while it was making the noise.
Ok. How long did it take you to do everything? Because my Spyder gears are bad in my Silverado, I was considering getting a new rear end but your video made me just wanna put new gears in it.
Jo Daddy's Garage also, my truck jolts when I put it in park sometimes, and when I hit about 45mph it starts to jolt funny. When I step on the gas a little more it had no problems. I definitely need a new rear end.
It took about 4 hours.
How do you find out the size of your differntial when ordering the parts ?
Best to use the vin. I contacted the dealer. It may be on the data sheet/sticker.
Would this cause your truck to not move while in drive or reverse?
Possibly. But you need to see if the transmission is working first.
how long did it take to replace the spider gears?
Only about 2 hours.